Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

[islaysteve]

So a guy walks into a bike shop with $1500..

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[RBW] Re: Toyo's Philosophy

[Evan E.]

I like their philosophy statement. We've heard it before but I think it 
bears repeating.

Love this line from their "About" section: "July 1st, 2011  We are 
currently seeking slaves."

Evan

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[RBW] Re: Toyo's Philosophy

[Kieran J]

That 1983 MTB is so cool !! 

KJ


On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 9:31:08 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> http://toyoframe.com/en/about-toyo/our-philosophy/
>
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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Dave Johnston]

The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry so 
they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti equiped 
bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or Touring 
bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and feel better 
and there is more clearance for fenders.

Dave J

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
> the rain. 
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[RBW] Where is Clem?

[Edwin W]

Where is Clem? 
Why is this bike hard to find?
Does Rivendell REALLY want to pre-sell it?

Because if you go to the website, you will not see it, unless you type, 
"Clem" into the search box. 
It is not on the homepage.
It is not under Bike Models.
It is not under New and Good.
It is not under web specials.
It is not under promotional.

So if you are on this list or a friend of someone on this list, you may 
have heard of it and go to the site and type in "Clem" and find it and 
pre-buy it, otherwise, how would you?

Maybe through BB&H?

It is a cool business model, if you take "cool" to mean: not many people 
know about it, under-the-radar kind of thing. And we all like those, don't 
we.

Yours in the Clem-shibboleth,

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Where is Clem?

[Jim Bronson]

Maybe that means the pre-sale is over and they are not taking any more
orders.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Edwin W  wrote:

> Where is Clem?
> Why is this bike hard to find?
> Does Rivendell REALLY want to pre-sell it?
>
> Because if you go to the website, you will not see it, unless you type,
> "Clem" into the search box.
> It is not on the homepage.
> It is not under Bike Models.
> It is not under New and Good.
> It is not under web specials.
> It is not under promotional.
>
> So if you are on this list or a friend of someone on this list, you may
> have heard of it and go to the site and type in "Clem" and find it and
> pre-buy it, otherwise, how would you?
>
> Maybe through BB&H?
>
> It is a cool business model, if you take "cool" to mean: not many people
> know about it, under-the-radar kind of thing. And we all like those, don't
> we.
>
> Yours in the Clem-shibboleth,
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] FS: What's left of the Ram parts (npi).

[Eric Daume]

Patrick,

No worries, I just found my frame (2013 Salsa Mukluk) today, so this wheel
build is still a ways off.

Eric

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Latest on your rims: my new rims came in this past week, but spokes are
> late. If all goes well -- I just talked to the bike shop owner who will
> build the new wheels -- I will get my new wheels tomorrow, which means I
> can pack and ship your rims early next week (this weekend being Orthodox
> Easter).
>
> At least, I have a box -- 2, in fact.
>
> I'm certain of getting the rims to you, but if you are getting impatient,
> I'll happily refund your money. And, sorry about the continued delay.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> Hey Patrick,
>>
>> Do you still have these SnoCat rims available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> who tried and failed to email Patrick directly
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Busy market day. These things are still available. I've added a couple
>>> of other things too. All prices include Priority Mail shipping within the
>>> CONUS, except for the rims which I may send FedEx ground.
>>>
>>> 1. 42 cm Noodle bar, good, 45 shipped CONUS.
>>>
>>> 2. Shimano "long" reach dual pivots, salmon pads, + Shimano aero levers,
>>> both as once sold by Rivendell, both vg, $75 shipped CONUS.
>>>
>>> 3. Pair 622 SnoCat SL rims, vg (no brake track wear since I used disks;
>>> perfectly true; offset spoke hold drilling on both; silver, 32 hole, $100
>>> *shipped* for the pair, CONUS.
>>>
>>> 4. Toplight Line Plus battery powered, rack-mount tail light, vg, $25
>>> shipped CONUS.
>>>
>>> Like this one: [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> 5. Jandd Mountain Wedge III (6 to 7.5 liters), dusty and missing bungees
>>> but otherwise vg -- no unraveling or scuffs, zippers as new. $35 shipped
>>> CONUS.
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[RBW] Re: Is my BB installed unsafely?

[jandrews_nyc]

Thanks for all the great info.
I will read through and decide if I can actually move the spindle
Otherwise, I may be asking some of you for your old BB's and putting a 
really odd size titanium Phil BB up here for sale
Jason




On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 11:04:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I'm in Oaxaca right now and won't be home for another week, but I do have 
> a good PW 121 sitting on my bench which I would be happy to sell.
>
> Michael 
>
> On Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 11:22:19 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I purchased a Protovelo web special a couple of years ago and built it up 
>> as a fast light bike. 
>> Here it is:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>  I had an almost new Sram Apex mini-group and and old set of really nice 
>> A.T. crank arms.
>> I purchased some TA rings off the group for them.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> So, these A.T. cranks originally required a long off-set spindle.  I 
>> purchased a Phil BB to go with it that was offset and adjustable but 
>> apparently I didn't really measure correctly or accurately enough.  In 
>> order to get a good chainline, the BB cups aren't seated perfectly in the 
>> shell.
>> I think I have just over 5mm of cup thread showing on the drive side.
>> According to the Phil instructions, "*If more than 5mm of thread is 
>> visible, this cartridge may be inappropriate for the frame and crank arm"*, 
>> I may need to find another solution.
>> But...
>> I've riden the bike pretty hard and it feels OK. 
>>
>> From looking at this photos, can anyone advise if this needs to be 
>> replaced?  I don't want take an unnecessary risk.
>> Non Drive side:
>>
>>
>> 
>> And the scary Drive side:
>>
>>
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> JS
>>
>

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[RBW] FS- First wave of bike parts: Bruce Gordon, Tubus, Sugino, Nitto, MKS, Schwalbe, Sunrace, Tektro, Arkel, Colnago

[Bruce Smitham]

For Sale- first wave of bike parts in my garage. Contact via private 
message or call (310) 968-6910. Shipping CONUS and Paypal for payment. 
Photos are below on Flickr

2 Bruce Gordon Roack & Road tires 700c X 43mm tan sidewalls in good 
condition. Tread is very good/tan sidewalls good with little fading $65 
shipped
Colnago by Selcof silver seatpost 27.2 in excellent condition. No 
scratches. Just some tiny mark on one of the "C" in decal. Very nice $40 
shipped
Tubus front Tara lowrider rack in black. Includes all hardware. Mounted but 
never used with bags or on a trip (how sad;) $60 shipped
Sunrace 8 speed cassette 11/32 in good condition. Some chrome is peeling 
off here and there. I have no idea what it's worth. Free if you pay for 
shipping
Sugino XD crankset 175mm arm length 46/36/24 in nice condition. Works great 
and came off my Atlantis. some of the bolts and inner ring show small 
amount of rust $45 shipped
Tange bottom bracket BC 1.37 X 24T 68 again, not sure the value so free if 
you pay for the shipping or are buying the crankset
Tektro Mountain brake levers silver. Used with cantilever brakes once. In 
excellent/mint condition $20 shipped
MKS GR-p platform pedals with toe clips & ALE Italian straps. Show signs of 
some rust on the spindle and toe clips but work great. $20 shipped
Nitto Dirt Drop stem 100mm with 26.0 clamp in excellent condition $50 
shipped
Tektro RL721 brakeinterupter levers 31.8 clamp $15 shipped
FSA OS 190 threadless 1 1/8" 31.8 clamp stem black 70mm length with 17 
degree rise. In perfect condition $15 shipped
Arkel waterproff seatbag black in excellent condition $25 shipped
2 Panaracer Pasela Tourguard tires 700c X 35mm tan sidewalls in great 
condition. Tread is new. Sidewalls show a little fading age but work 
perfect (came off my Atlantis) $30 shipped
2 Schwalbe Big Ben tires 650b X 2.0 mounted on my wifes Cheviot and ridden 
less than 5 miles. They are a little too big $45 shipped

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Re: [RBW] FS: What's left of the Ram parts (npi).

[Patrick Moore]

I have every reason to believe that the wheel will be ready no later than
early next week -- tomorrow if I'm lucky -- and I will certainly mail as
soon as the old wheel is disassembled and I can get out to pick up, pack,
and ship the old ones.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> No worries, I just found my frame (2013 Salsa Mukluk) today, so this wheel
> build is still a ways off.
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Latest on your rims: my new rims came in this past week, but spokes are
>> late. If all goes well -- I just talked to the bike shop owner who will
>> build the new wheels -- I will get my new wheels tomorrow, which means I
>> can pack and ship your rims early next week (this weekend being Orthodox
>> Easter).
>>
>> At least, I have a box -- 2, in fact.
>>
>> I'm certain of getting the rims to you, but if you are getting impatient,
>> I'll happily refund your money. And, sorry about the continued delay.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Patrick,
>>>
>>> Do you still have these SnoCat rims available?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> who tried and failed to email Patrick directly
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Busy market day. These things are still available. I've added a couple
 of other things too. All prices include Priority Mail shipping within the
 CONUS, except for the rims which I may send FedEx ground.

 1. 42 cm Noodle bar, good, 45 shipped CONUS.

 2. Shimano "long" reach dual pivots, salmon pads, + Shimano aero
 levers, both as once sold by Rivendell, both vg, $75 shipped CONUS.

 3. Pair 622 SnoCat SL rims, vg (no brake track wear since I used disks;
 perfectly true; offset spoke hold drilling on both; silver, 32 hole, $100
 *shipped* for the pair, CONUS.

 4. Toplight Line Plus battery powered, rack-mount tail light, vg, $25
 shipped CONUS.

 Like this one: [image: Inline image 1]

 5. Jandd Mountain Wedge III (6 to 7.5 liters), dusty and missing
 bungees but otherwise vg -- no unraveling or scuffs, zippers as new. $35
 shipped CONUS.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

[Patrick Moore]

Almost an all-Riv family. We want photos of the fleet when finally acquired.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Juggling a slew of factors, all boiling down to our cash flow we are now
> getting:
>
> (2) Complete Clementines for our two older daughters
> (1) Bike Friday Haul-A Day for my wife (we learned a few things about
> hauling kids and loads that convinced us this was the way to go for now,
> and her Clementine would need to wait)
> (0) new bikes for our two youngest daughters, who will start riding the
> Trek mixte MTBs when they are big enough and their Clementines will wait a
> few years (if they are still offered then).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Coolest cycling cap?

[Patrick Moore]

Idle subject, but when I walked into the library to pick up my daughter
just now, as she was chatting with a friend, she started weighing in about
the Rivendell cap (cycling, please, I don't wear baseball caps) and how
dorky it is. (Her friend said it was "cool".) She also publicly denigrated
the cute li'l yellow custom caps I have from LittlePacketdotcom, with their
custom-attenuated brims (can't see out under regular cycling cap brims
unless I fold them back by half an inch). I had been thinking about my
favorite caps, and I have to say that  my own personal favorites have been
the ever-on-sale "retro" caps sold by Nashbar -- I have Molteni, BP, and
one other I can't now remember; it advertises "chrome cassettes" --
remember those?) and, of course the coolest of the cool is the Molteni one.
(The only cooler one would be a Teve Blad cap; alas, I outgrew my Teve Blad
jersey. $1 to the first one to identify this name in its current context.)

Can anyone beat this coolness?

The Nashbar caps are indeed well made and, if I fold up the brim and add
elastic, they work well.

Patrick Moore, idling away this Orthodox Good Friday afternoon in ABQ, NM,
who long ago swore he'd never use the word "cool" again.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

[Deacon Patrick]

Three out of four peddlers will be peddling Rivendells. Only three out of 
six riders will be on Rivendells though, as the two wee ones will be on my 
wife's Bike Friday. But, yes, we'll post pictures when the herd is brought 
together in its new home. Bike Friday arrives early June. It is a cargo/kid 
bike that fits on a roof bike rack and weighs 44 pounds with all the 
accessories for kids and cargo. Made the in USA, lifetime warrantee on the 
frame. That ain't bad!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:22:49 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Almost an all-Riv family. We want photos of the fleet when finally 
> acquired.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Juggling a slew of factors, all boiling down to our cash flow we are now 
>> getting:
>>
>> (2) Complete Clementines for our two older daughters
>> (1) Bike Friday Haul-A Day for my wife (we learned a few things about 
>> hauling kids and loads that convinced us this was the way to go for now, 
>> and her Clementine would need to wait)
>> (0) new bikes for our two youngest daughters, who will start riding the 
>> Trek mixte MTBs when they are big enough and their Clementines will wait a 
>> few years (if they are still offered then).
>>
>> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick, you might also want to take a look at the cycletrucks.com 
Beavertail for a 20-inch-wheel cargo bike. RBW bought one for the shop last 
year.

Joe Bernard
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On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 10:55:03 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Juggling a slew of factors, all boiling down to our cash flow we are now 
> getting:
>
> (2) Complete Clementines for our two older daughters
> (1) Bike Friday Haul-A Day for my wife (we learned a few things about 
> hauling kids and loads that convinced us this was the way to go for now, 
> and her Clementine would need to wait)
> (0) new bikes for our two youngest daughters, who will start riding the 
> Trek mixte MTBs when they are big enough and their Clementines will wait a 
> few years (if they are still offered then).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for cycling video cameras?

[lungimsam]

I would like to start taking some vids of rides because everything looks so 
beautiful and would be fun to show others.

What can be helmet mounted that works good? Nice color, clarity, and loads 
easily onto your desktop. Lightweight. No distortion.
I am guessing that helmet mounting makes for the smoothest, less jarring 
videos.

Thanks for your ideas.

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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet mounted rear view mirrors?

[lungimsam]

I use one of those small mirrors that sticks to the inside of the glasses 
lens. I like them a lot but sometimes a little fussy to adjust.

Was wondering what works good helmet mounted and has a nice mirror, not 
something that looks like a sheet of sticky-backed silver duct tape, but an 
actual mirror.

Thanks for your ideas.

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet mounted rear view mirrors?

[Ron Mc]

I'm a Bell metro fan - I like the little mirror a lot.  

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 7:14:58 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
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> I use one of those small mirrors that sticks to the inside of the glasses 
> lens. I like them a lot but sometimes a little fussy to adjust.
>
> Was wondering what works good helmet mounted and has a nice mirror, not 
> something that looks like a sheet of sticky-backed silver duct tape, but an 
> actual mirror.
>
> Thanks for your ideas.
>

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[RBW] xd2 triple to double/bb question

[drew beckmeyer]

thinking about buying Christian's wide low xd2 to replace a perfectly fine 
triple xd2 (featuring an unused big ring) on my hunqapillar that is 
currently set up with a 113 bottom bracket.  were i to do this, would i 
need a different length bb? i think this would work, but i just want to 
make sure that going from a 36t middle to a 40t on in the same spot on the 
widelow wont be too close to the chainstay. 

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[RBW] Re: xd2 triple to double/bb question

[dougP]

That would be worth a call to Walnut Creek.  They could probably tell you 
in a minute.  They've probably set-up a wide/low Hunq.

dougP

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 5:34:06 PM UTC-7, drew beckmeyer wrote:
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> thinking about buying Christian's wide low xd2 to replace a perfectly fine 
> triple xd2 (featuring an unused big ring) on my hunqapillar that is 
> currently set up with a 113 bottom bracket.  were i to do this, would i 
> need a different length bb? i think this would work, but i just want to 
> make sure that going from a 36t middle to a 40t on in the same spot on the 
> widelow wont be too close to the chainstay. 
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Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for cycling video cameras?

[Eric Norris]

I use the Garmin VIRB for my videos. Very nice camera that provides for a 
variety of mounts, including helmet-mounted.

A word of caution regarding helmet-mounted cameras: You have to train yourself 
to use them. It’s normal to move your head around as you’re riding—see 
something to your right, and your head will turn that way. Recorded by a video 
camera, all of that movement is quite distracting. That’s why I prefer a bike 
mount (on the handlebars) or handheld. You *can* do helmet-mounted video, but 
you have to concentrate on keeping your head pointed in more or less the same 
direction while you’re filming (or moving it very slowly). Try it sometime—it’s 
harder than you think.

Lots of bike-mounted and handheld video in my latest offering: 
https://youtu.be/8ypRlQQEngE 

To see how annoying helmet video can be: https://youtu.be/GXNU-zQVw90 

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> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:11 PM, lungimsam  wrote:
> 
> I would like to start taking some vids of rides because everything looks so 
> beautiful and would be fun to show others.
> 
> What can be helmet mounted that works good? Nice color, clarity, and loads 
> easily onto your desktop. Lightweight. No distortion.
> I am guessing that helmet mounting makes for the smoothest, less jarring 
> videos.
> 
> Thanks for your ideas.
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Re: [RBW] xd2 triple to double/bb question

[Patrick Moore]

I swapped my Fargo's X2D 46/36/24 rings for Guard/38/24, keeping the same
113 mm Phil. The new outer, formerly the middle, was in the --- middle! So
it remained where it ought to be.

I didn't even change the position of the FD; it works fine -- tho' the
entire point of the exercise was to have a drivetrain that needs shifting
to the granny only in emergencies; iow, I don't shift the ring hardly a
tall.

That said, I could probably get by with a 108 but then, the 46/36/24 could
have gotten by with a 108, too.

For the record, the 113 Phil came off the Sam Hill, which first had the
XD2; the Phil replaced another, less chi chi bb that was also a 113. A 108
would work with X2D on both frames.

Off the record, but in case it's of interest: the triple pulled a compact
(small cog = 16) 7 with the 46 being the principal ring, while the double
pulls a closer ratio 9 (small cog 13).

Patrick "as I've described many times before" Moore

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:34 PM, drew beckmeyer 
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> thinking about buying Christian's wide low xd2 to replace a perfectly fine
> triple xd2 (featuring an unused big ring) on my hunqapillar that is
> currently set up with a 113 bottom bracket.  were i to do this, would i
> need a different length bb? i think this would work, but i just want to
> make sure that going from a 36t middle to a 40t on in the same spot on the
> widelow wont be too close to the chainstay.
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[RBW] xd2 triple to double/bb question

[Joe Bernard]

You should be able to eyeball it by estimating how much larger a ring with 4 
more teeth would be. If there's plenty of distance now, I wouldn't worry, but 
if you're already cutting it close with the 36 then you'll need a 115 BB. I 
would buy the cranks first and ease it onto the spindle to see if it's going to 
be an issue. You'll know right away if cranking down on the bolt is going to 
push it too close to the chainstay.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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Re: [RBW] Where is Clem?

[Joe Bernard]

Go to the Blug first, then click Shop. This takes you to the newest items in 
descending chronological order. There's probably another way to get there, but 
this had been my habit with rivbike.com for ages: Check for new comments on the 
Blug, then click over to see if there's any new items. The Complete Clem 
Pre-Sale (and a lovely used Atlantis in my size!) is there.

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Re: [RBW] Where is Clem?

[Mark Wilkins]

I think somebody grabbed that Atlantis.  It's not showing up (for me)
anymore.  That was quick :-(

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:31 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> descending chronological order. There's probably another way to get there, 
> but this had been my habit with rivbike.com for ages: Check for new comments 
> on the Blug, then click over to see if there's any new items. The Complete 
> Clem Pre-Sale (and a lovely used Atlantis in my size!) is there.
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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

[Zed Martinez]

They're in the Clem Smith section. But, they still say to check back on 
4/6. They haven't reopened them after asking the first-wavers if they 
wanted to upgrade to a full build or not. So, right now, you still can't 
preorder one again. They're supposed to be back up... sometime soon. They 
were also on the homepage last time. I don't think they're in the bike 
models yet because it's a weird way before they expected to be ready 
pre-announcement. Will probably be there eventually, but yes, as it is the 
preorder kinda is really aimed at the regulars who follow the Blug and get 
the emails more so than the casual site browsers it seems.

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 5:05:37 PM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Where is Clem? 
> Why is this bike hard to find?
> Does Rivendell REALLY want to pre-sell it?
>
> Because if you go to the website, you will not see it, unless you type, 
> "Clem" into the search box. 
> It is not on the homepage.
> It is not under Bike Models.
> It is not under New and Good.
> It is not under web specials.
> It is not under promotional.
>
> So if you are on this list or a friend of someone on this list, you may 
> have heard of it and go to the site and type in "Clem" and find it and 
> pre-buy it, otherwise, how would you?
>
> Maybe through BB&H?
>
> It is a cool business model, if you take "cool" to mean: not many people 
> know about it, under-the-radar kind of thing. And we all like those, don't 
> we.
>
> Yours in the Clem-shibboleth,
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

[sameness]

I get the feeling maybe some people are viewing cached pages. Open the page 
and hit CTRL + F5?

Both models are available for sale on the New & Good 
, Bike Models 
, and the Clem Smith 
 pages.

There's even a (possibly) comprehensive PDF 
 for 
both models.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Where is Clem?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the link to the PDF.  I enjoyed reading it but the color scheme 
put me in mind of Thorn's brochureswhich for some reason really 
irritate me.  There's some negative connotation in my subconscious to that 
style of advertisement but I can't verbalize what is, specifically. 




On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 11:00:11 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote:
>
> I get the feeling maybe some people are viewing cached pages. Open the 
> page and hit CTRL + F5?
>
> Both models are available for sale on the New & Good 
> , Bike Models 
> , and the Clem Smith 
>  pages.
>
> There's even a (possibly) comprehensive PDF 
>  for 
> both models.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] Re: FS- First wave of bike parts: Bruce Gordon, Tubus, Sugino, Nitto, MKS, Schwalbe, Sunrace, Tektro, Arkel, Colnago

[Bruce Smitham]

UPDATE on what's left:
For Sale- first wave of bike parts in my garage. Contact via private 
message or call (310) 968-6910. Shipping CONUS and Paypal for payment. 
Photos are below on Flickr

2 Bruce Gordon Roack & Road tires 700c X 43mm tan sidewalls in good 
condition. Tread is very good/tan sidewalls good with little fading $65 
shipped
Colnago by Selcof silver seatpost 27.2 in excellent condition. No 
scratches. Just some tiny mark on one of the "C" in decal. Very nice $40 
shipped
Sunrace 8 speed cassette 11/32 in good condition. Some chrome is peeling 
off here and there. I have no idea what it's worth. Free if you pay for 
shipping
Tange bottom bracket BC 1.37 X 24T 68 again, not sure the value so free if 
you pay for the shipping or are buying the crankset
MKS GR-p platform pedals with toe clips & ALE Italian straps. Show signs of 
some rust on the spindle and toe clips but work great. $20 shipped
Nitto Dirt Drop stem 100mm with 26.0 clamp in excellent condition $50 
shipped
Tektro RL721 brakeinterupter levers 31.8 clamp $15 shipped
FSA OS 190 threadless 1 1/8" 31.8 clamp stem black 70mm length with 17 
degree rise. In perfect condition $15 shipped
Arkel waterproff seatbag black in excellent condition $25 shipped
2 Schwalbe Big Ben tires 650b X 2.0 mounted on my wifes Cheviot and ridden 
less than 5 miles. They are a little too big $45 shipped

https://www.flickr.com/photos/122325667@N08/sets/72157651468439180/ 

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 3:11:24 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
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> For Sale- first wave of bike parts in my garage. Contact via private 
> message or call (310) 968-6910. Shipping CONUS and Paypal for payment. 
> Photos are below on Flickr
>
> 2 Bruce Gordon Roack & Road tires 700c X 43mm tan sidewalls in good 
> condition. Tread is very good/tan sidewalls good with little fading $65 
> shipped
> Colnago by Selcof silver seatpost 27.2 in excellent condition. No 
> scratches. Just some tiny mark on one of the "C" in decal. Very nice $40 
> shipped
> Tubus front Tara lowrider rack in black. Includes all hardware. Mounted 
> but never used with bags or on a trip (how sad;) $60 shipped
> Sunrace 8 speed cassette 11/32 in good condition. Some chrome is peeling 
> off here and there. I have no idea what it's worth. Free if you pay for 
> shipping
> Sugino XD crankset 175mm arm length 46/36/24 in nice condition. Works 
> great and came off my Atlantis. some of the bolts and inner ring show small 
> amount of rust $45 shipped
> Tange bottom bracket BC 1.37 X 24T 68 again, not sure the value so free if 
> you pay for the shipping or are buying the crankset
> Tektro Mountain brake levers silver. Used with cantilever brakes once. In 
> excellent/mint condition $20 shipped
> MKS GR-p platform pedals with toe clips & ALE Italian straps. Show signs 
> of some rust on the spindle and toe clips but work great. $20 shipped
> Nitto Dirt Drop stem 100mm with 26.0 clamp in excellent condition $50 
> shipped
> Tektro RL721 brakeinterupter levers 31.8 clamp $15 shipped
> FSA OS 190 threadless 1 1/8" 31.8 clamp stem black 70mm length with 17 
> degree rise. In perfect condition $15 shipped
> Arkel waterproff seatbag black in excellent condition $25 shipped
> 2 Panaracer Pasela Tourguard tires 700c X 35mm tan sidewalls in great 
> condition. Tread is new. Sidewalls show a little fading age but work 
> perfect (came off my Atlantis) $30 shipped
> 2 Schwalbe Big Ben tires 650b X 2.0 mounted on my wifes Cheviot and ridden 
> less than 5 miles. They are a little too big $45 shipped
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/122325667@N08/sets/72157651468439180/ 
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