[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread islaysteve
Patrick, Good for you for trying to help, it's not surprising that you did!  I 
managed to ride for several years in similar kit, but did know to carry a spare 
tube In Addition to CO2.  It's amazing how much stuff fits into those jersey 
pockets.  Sometimes felt kind of bulky back there, though. I was lucky to have 
few flats.  I now prefer my Kevin's bag and frame pump.
Joe, try a Miata.  Pretty much the best of both (automotive) worlds.  You get 
in, drive, have a blast.  No worries.
Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
I tried two pair of Sabot pedals on my QB when I first got it. Both pair 
began creaking after just a few rides. I can't remember what VO said the 
issue was, but their customer service was great! (they refunded my money -- 
Mike, I'd definitely contact them and tell them of your experience). I got 
them because they look like an ideal barefoot pedal, and they weren't bad. 
The VP Vice pedal is thinner and thus gives greater road and trail obstacle 
clearance and feels the same underfoot as the Sabot -- a bit of a surprise 
to me. The Sabot pins are rounded on top, which does not give aggressive 
grip on the pin side (I remove the pins on the barefoot side). When I'm 
shod it's often because it is wet/cold and the extra grip is fantastic and 
roughly equal to the feel of the grip of being barefoot (being barefoot 
provides a lot of grip, and amazing pedal feel/connection). All in all, I'm 
so happy with the VP Vice I do not see a reason to pursue the search 
further.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 2015 JBL Haleiwa Metric Century

2015-04-29 Thread Robert F. Harrison
So I did the Haleiwa Metric Century this past Sunday and I had a great
ride. I used my Quickbeam again as it's the perfect bike for the ride. I'm
pretty pleased with how things turned out.

The day was a bit overcast and rain was forecasted for later in day, but
the word was that it would be dry during the ride. I'd opted to take the
charted bus to the ride as I don't have car to drive there and this year I
wasn't going with anyone.

I woke up at 3:30 AM (which isn't a big stretch, I'm up at 4:30 AM most
days) and had a nice little ride a couple of miles to the pickup point at
Kaka'ako Waterfront Park. That at least got my blood moving a bit. Getting
on the yellow school buses with our bikes was a lesson in applied geometry.
We more or less failed on the way out and did great on the way back.
Figures.

I hadn't eaten breakfast other than some fatty coffee and I was packing a
few hard boiled eggs and string cheese, no carbs today thank you. We
arrived at Kaiaka Bay Beach park some time later, the sun was up, and there
was a line for the kibos. Seems the restroom were under renovation. Having
done a couple of RAGBRAIS this is situation normal.

I saw a couple of fun bikes including a new Bike Friday Haul-a-Day, a
folding longtail. I own a New World Tourist (and it's been RBW, twice), so
that was fun. Mostly the bikes were mix of carbon fiber racy things and
more comfortable flat barred bikes, mountain bikes, a couple of fixies, and
not another Riv in site.

It was time to go and off we went. This ride, like many, was broken in
groups, fast first, slow last. I was somewhere in the middle.

I left at a good clip, one that felt comfortable and maintainable. The
Quickbeam was in good tune, tires just right, nothing much creaking or
clicking.

I've got two time lapse videos, one out, one back. I took them with a
little HTC Re camera on my bars. It's not a great camera by any means, but
as I got it for half price it's okay.  The time lapses are set for one
every five minutes.

Out:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/17294741335/in/set-72157652232821875
Back:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/17106979568/in/set-72157652232821875
All Stuff:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157652232821875/with/17106979568/

Okay, here's the scoop on my ride. Last time I did this ride, in April of
2013, I probably weighed 260 pounds and I had a bad hip. The hip would be
replaced in April of 2014, actually the day after the 2014 version of this
ride - though I didn't ride. This Sunday when I rode, I was 197. In 2013
the ride took about 5.5 hours, this time it took just under 4 hours. I
really don't think I was putting out more energy, I just didn't have to
move as much mass.

As long as I'm on the subject, I should note that besides the coffee I
didn't eat anything. I rode the first half of the ride non-stop (not
something I would normally do, I like to stop and chat, and such when I
ride). I ate a couple of hard boiled eggs at the halfway point, but
honestly, I wasn't hungry nor did I feel like I was bonking at any point.

Then it was time for the ride back. This half was a few minutes slower as
the wind had picked up a bit and until I turned the corner from the
windward side to the north shore. I did take a pit stop this time about
halfway to the finish.

After Waimea Bay the weather started socking in a bit and I could see
showers in the distance, but it was still very pleasant. I began to watch
the clock a bit and saw that there was a chance I'd be in before noon. I
figured it was not going to happen, but I kept pedaling. At fifteen minutes
to noon I had a feeling I might make it if there was no traffic in Haleiwa.
There wasn't. That left just the road to Kaiaka Park...it was longer than I
recalled and I was sure I'd missed the mark. Nope, I made it in 2 minutes
before noon. That was by far the fastest I've ever done this many miles.

Actually I'll take that back, I rode down Haleakala last year, about 36
miles downhill (there is one short, very minor climb, but the rest is down,
down down). That was faster.

The day wasn't over as it turned out. As I was hydrating a bit and wiping
off the salt a woman approached me and said she'd seen me come in. She was
pleased, she said, to see me as I was dressed in 'normal' clothes and my
bike, the Quickbeam with Albas, fenders, a dynohub, and front and rear
olive TrunkSacks, was definitely comfortable looking.

Turns out she's read Just Ride. Her bike ethic is pretty similar and she,
like me is a daily commuter.

We ended up chatting till it was time for the bus, chatted on the bus, and
went for coffee when we got back to Honolulu. After a two hour coffee break
we rode partway home together till it was time to go our separate ways.

Thanks Riv! Many folks have commented on how nice my Quickbeam and my Hunq
look, but this was the first time they'd ever gotten me an afternoon coffee
and riding date. :-)

So that's my 2015 JBK Haleiwa Metric Century. I had a great time. 

[RBW] Re: Saluki

2015-04-29 Thread Coconutbill
gorgeous!


On Saturday, April 25, 2015 at 1:52:27 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6g45t_4TY24/VTv-frHTvxI/AXc/AkGuCWT_nZc/s1600/untitled-5.jpg
 Almost done! New to me Saluki; waiting on pedals and Lumotec Eyc. 
 Eventually a saddle bag.


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Garth

 I found out by sheer accident that Frame Saver in the seat tube in 
contact with the seatpost make it very difficult to move !   I have Salsa 
Shaft(matte finish black) on the Bombadil and it is really long , so long 
that it came in contact with the Frame Saver I had applied in the ST .  I 
could barely get in .  I immediately checked the post to make sure it 
really was 27.2 , and it was .  The seat tube is 27.2 for sure, as I had a 
Campy seatpost in it prior.  

I squirted some Boeshield on a rag and rubbed it around the top part of the 
tube to diminish to stickiness of the Frame Save and now I can at least 
move the post a bit easier .  So Frame Saver may work for someone looking 
for a anti friction kind of solution while still preserving and 
protecting the steel .  

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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Garth

I recall seeing a photo somehwere of the thin gripsters and the VP-001 
and some other pedals .  Thin Gripsters are not wide at all, just long 
fore/aft . 

In looking at pedals recently . . .   I have noticed that pedals 
measurements vary .  The fore/aft is for the whole platform, so BMX style 
paralleogram type the actual will be much less than listed.   The width 
however is a free-for-all.  Some measure it from the crank arm, from inside 
the axle threads to the outside body.  Others measure the body alone.   So 
is the VO Sabot 100mm width for just the platform, or from the inside 
axle(the total width from the inside crank arm when installed) ?  

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[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread 'Kobe*' via RBW Owners Bunch
That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2 
chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump 
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their 
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the 
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches 
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been 
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand 
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from 
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of 
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my 
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. 
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, 
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated 
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away 
 from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs 
 on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d 
 had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a 
 great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
more than twice I've loaned my pump to roadies on the roadside.  It's 
always a pleasant conversation.  If we get back to the original problem it 
becomes a question of people buying into an image that's being sold, 
compounded by peer pressure, since the lion's share of group rides are 
built around the bike shops doing the selling.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5, Kobe* wrote:

 That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2 
 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02 
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump 
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their 
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the 
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches 
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been 
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand 
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from 
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of 
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my 
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. 
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, 
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated 
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve 
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado 
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have 
 if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. 
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread clyde canter
My Sam's post did the same thing.  I used a snap punch to create a grid
of punches about a centimeter wide in the area of the clamp.  Punches were
about 2-3 mm apart. After a bit of sanding with some fine sandpaper the fit
got just about perfect. I wound up with some of the scratching exposed, not
real attractive but functional.  I spent about an hour on this. Post hasn't
slipped since.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Matt B. matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:08:37 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to
 prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the
 only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact
 point?

 Matt



 Definitely with you on that, you don't want to encourage seizing between
 the aluminum and steel.Grease works for this but I've also used
 anti-seize compound sometimes, which I think is less prone to slippage.
 In any case, sounds like the OP is all set now that the cable hanger has
 been ID'ed as the culprit.







 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+
 miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my
 very favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping
 down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is
 starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six
 times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very
 frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was
 interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be
 avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain
 attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
 Kevin

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Road Standard, whole bike or f/f - Near-New

2015-04-29 Thread David Hallerman

Hi Erl,

Thanks for your comments.

Yes, as we all know, part of the fun of bicycles is in selecting parts, 
which is one reason why I prefer to sell the whole Rivendell and not 
just the frame and fork.


But if someone has his own selection, awaiting a frameset like my Riv, 
I'm okay with shipping just that.


Smiles,

Dave, who is holding on to his Heron Road bike
+++
Hudson Valley, NY

On 4/28/15 1:03 PM, WETH wrote:

Dave,
That is a beautiful bike to my eyes, too, with thoughtfully selected 
parts.  I enjoyed viewing the photos.  Best wishes in your effort to 
find it a new home.

Erl

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 8:20:45 AM UTC-4, Dave Hallerman wrote:

Hi,

I'm the original owner of this 56.5cm (c-c) Rivendell Road
Standard. My problem here, so to speak, is that I tend to baby
beautiful objects (please look at the photos). And to my eyes,
this is one lovely bicycle -- which is why I've put only 254 miles
on it since Joe Bell repainted it a few years ago and I rebuilt it
with a selection of my best parts. Pristine condition, better than
almost any other used bike you might buy.

I prefer to sell the whole bicycle, but would consider selling
just the frame and fork. There are several pros and cons of my
selling -- that is, your buying -- the whole bike vs. just the
frame and fork. Here are the key pros/cons:
_/Pro Whole Bike:/_ It's a shame to disassemble a well-put
together bicycle. I'm an excellent bicycle mechanic, but
painstaking, so it takes me quite some time to get it just right.
_/Con Whole Bike:/_ At their super-light level of usage, these
parts are worth far more than the $1200 difference in price.
_/Pro Frame  Fork:/_ Much easier to ship, and I get to keep all
those great parts (I know their real value).
_/Con Frame  Fork:/_ I give up things like cold-forged Shimano
Deore XT cranks; Shimano XTR 952 rear derailleur, super-excellent;
Campy Chorus alloy shifters, rare and lovely; and a logo-free
silver Chris King headset, also rare and lovely.

*Price, whole bike (no pedals) = $2600*, plus shipping in CONUS
and packing costs [will be packed by an excellent bike shop]
*Price, frame and fork = $1400*, plus shipping in CONUS

Check or postal money order is fine.
PayPal is good if you cover the fee.
Any questions, please ask.
And more photos available, too.

Dave, who notes that this idiosyncratic gearing goes from a high
of 113 gear inches to a low of 20 gear inches with all the stops
in-between which gives a cyclist a very useful range for nearly
all uphills and downhills and all the landscape in-between plus
these cranks are easily reconfigured as compact doubles since the
granny spacers come off
+++
Hudson Valley, NY

_/*Below:*/_
* Detailed specifications, frame and parts
* Backstory on why I'm selling
* Photographs

_/*FRAME SPECS:*/_
Seat tube (c-c) = 56.5cm
Seat tube (c-t) = 58.0cm
Top tube (c-c) = 57.5cm
Head tube angle = 73.5 degrees
Seat tube angle = 72.5 degrees
Wheelbase = 100.5cm
Standover height = 81.2cm
Head tube = 15.5cm
Chainstay length = 42.5cm
Braze-ons = pump peg, chain peg, down tube shifter bosses, rear
fender eyelets  chainstay bridge boss, fron fender eyelets, rear
rack dropout eyelets and seat stay bosses
Materials = Reynolds 753 tubing, silver-brazed, Richard
Sachs-designed lugs

_/*PARTS SPECS:*/_
Note that almost all these parts are near-new, with only 254
miles, totally dry miles, on them.
Wheels = Shimano Ultegra (6600) hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims,
Wheelsmith double-butted spokes
Tires = Grand Bois Cerf, 700x26 (only 50 miles on tires)
Shifters = Campagnolo Chorus Ergo, alloy, 9-speed
Cranks = Shimano Deore XT (730), 110/74 BCD, 170mm
Chainrings = Race Face 46/34/24 (silver)
Rear derailleur = Shimano XTR (952)
Front derailleur = Shimano XTR (900), 1-1/8 inch clamp
Cassette = Shimano Deore XT (770), 11x32 nine-speed
Brakes = Shimano Dura-Ace (7700), w/upgraded Kool-Stop
dual-compound pads
Headset = Chris King 2-Nut, silver, no logo
Stem = Nitto Dynamic, 11cm
Handlebar = Ritchey Ergonomic, silver, 42cm
Handlebar tape = Brooks leather
Seatpost = Suntour Superbe, 27.2 (not as new as other parts)
Saddle = Selle Italia X2, black
Note #1 = I use the Jtek Engineering ShiftMate to get perfect
index shifting with the combination of a Campy shifter and a
Shimano drivetrain. This offers several benefits, which I would be
glad to discuss separately.
Note #2 = pedals NOT included

_/*BACKSTORY:*/_
I bought this Rivendell Road Standard during Riv's first year,
1995, so this frame was manufactured by Waterford, using
silver-brazing, Richard Sachs designed lugs, and Reynolds 753
tubing. The two main things different about this frame, 

[RBW] Re: 2015 JBL Haleiwa Metric Century

2015-04-29 Thread WETH
Congratulations Bob!  I enjoyed your write-up.  All-in-all it appears to have 
been a great day in paradise!

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Matt B.


On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:08:37 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to 
 prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the 
 only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact 
 point?

 Matt



Definitely with you on that, you don't want to encourage seizing between 
the aluminum and steel.Grease works for this but I've also used 
anti-seize compound sometimes, which I think is less prone to slippage. 
In any case, sounds like the OP is all set now that the cable hanger has 
been ID'ed as the culprit.





 

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ 
 miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my 
 very favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping 
 down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is 
 starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six 
 times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very 
 frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was 
 interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be 
 avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain 
 attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
 Kevin



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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
I had a co-worker of a family member giving me a ride to the start of the
Houston-Austin MS150 a few years back and when he saw people pumping up
tires with a floor pump he asked why people would do that at all given the
existence of CO2 cartridges.

*facepalm*

I didn't really give him any negative feedback as he had been kind enough
to let me stay at his house while I was in the Houston area, and there
wasn't really time to explain as I was about to get out of the car.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away
 from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs
 on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d
 had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a
 great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread John
Hi Daren,

What size Marathon Supremes are you riding?  And what pressures are you 
are you using in the Supremes and Barlows?

Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis?

I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than 
my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular 
Barlows?

Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Garth
Oh yes Patrick !   Doh on my part !  I was thinking of the MKS Grip 
Kings, whatever model number/name that is .  

Is the 4 width from the inside of the crank arm to the outer edge , or 
just the cage itself ? and the 4 for/aft for the total platform, including 
both side of the parallelogram , or is each side 4 itself ?   just for 
my visualization ! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread William deRosset
My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on 
chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

Dear Eric,

Interesting. I've not messed with Gunnars, but I've built up/owned eight 
waterford-built products since 1998 (a Heron, two lugged road bikes, four 
TIG-welded Boulder Bicycle prototypes, and one production TIG welded 
Allroad (on the stand right now). I've never had a slipping seatpost.

Their paint has gotten better. My Waterfords chipped badly and with little 
provocation. My road-going Boulder Bicycle has done well (other than the 
chip at the top tube dent, but that had a metal beam dropped on it--not its 
fault). My Allroad is pretty chipped up, but it lives a hard life. The 1998 
Heron, finished by waterford, has tough paint.

Their frames have been straight on the frame table and have ridden fine. 
Two of the prototypes had oddities in the braze-ons (one had a visually 
crooked cantilever post, which would have been a rebuild in a production 
bike), another had an off-axis set of downtube bottle bosses, and I know 
they added a fork crown restraint to their fork fixtures practice back in 
2001, when they had a run of properly-aligned forks (i.e. the wheel sat 
right wrt the frame) with with twisted crown orientation (plays hell with 
caliper brake adjustment). I got one of the special forks from that era, 
and complained to my dealer, who got them to tighten up their spec. there. 

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO
 

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:46:33 PM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote:

 My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on 
 chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality.

 My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still 
 looks great after six years)

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 I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with 
 slipping seatposts.  

 This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on 
 Rivendell's part.  If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from 
 Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those 
 framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense.  

 I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it 
 had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset.  



 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote:

 It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. 
 Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds' 
alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;)

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subie WRX... best of both worlds!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 *I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.*

 It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads 
 you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went 
 through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten 
 years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously 
 expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to 
 the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda 
 Civic :)


 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the 
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches 
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been 
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand 
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from 
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of 
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my 
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. 
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, 
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated 
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve 
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado 
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have 
 if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. 
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
Exactly  Grip Kings are 115mm long and only about 75mm wide, though they 
have a nice long standoff from the crank arm.  They're also thick, so they 
have to be more narrow than newer designed thin platforms.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:48:11 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:

 Oh yes Patrick !   Doh on my part !  I was thinking of the MKS Grip 
 Kings, whatever model number/name that is .  

 Is the 4 width from the inside of the crank arm to the outer edge , or 
 just the cage itself ? and the 4 for/aft for the total platform, including 
 both side of the parallelogram , or is each side 4 itself ?   just for 
 my visualization ! 


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[RBW] Re: Saluki

2015-04-29 Thread Kellie
Thanks coconutbill.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread David Stein
I just took the fenders off, sadly...I live in California and I doubt we're
going to see much, if any, rain until November. So without fenders the
consensus seems to be go as wide as you can.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use Hetres at 50psi on my 52 Blue Sam with P45 fenders, raised as far
 from the tire as the frame allows with mounting from the fender tab on the
 front fender, and mounting the fender directly to the eyelet under the seat
 stay bridge with a bolt.

 I am hoping to put Loups on for my next set, as they will allow more
 clearance under fenders. It is pretty tight. Most would probably think it
 is ok, and it has been great, but I like lots of clearance.

 I also have a Bleriot that I have used Hetres as well as Loups on. The
 Loups feel plenty cushy at 45psi. Allows much more clearance under the
 fenders than the Hetres did. I think the Hetres get me 1cm all around, the
 Loups get me a lot more.

 *So, I think both tires have a comparable ride quality at these pressures,
 but just decide if you like more clearance under fenders or not.
 Disclaimer: I weigh about 175lbs. I don't know how they will feel in
 another weight class and at different pressures.*

 The Cypress will allow massive overkill fender clearance. I had them on my
 Sam for a short time, and they were nice at 50 or 55 psi, if I remember
 right. But you won't get as good ability to road through cracked roads with
 tires that narrow, from my experience

 But again, all these tires are great. I like them at low pressures.

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread RoadieRyan
I use Keen Commuters to ride clipless but I am just as happy riding in 
regular keen sandals when I ride without special shoes I think the keen 
sole is thick enough that you won't feel the rat traps - I don't on my 
Shimano PD 324s when I ride the platform side (rat trap like).

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread Kieran J
I keep going back to ye olde Adidas Samba. I was particularly into them 
when I still rode with clips 'n straps, as the aero profile of the shoe 
worked well in that regard. I'm sticking with them on platform pedals cause 
they're just great, comfy, minimal shoes. 

I've been trying out the Evolv Cruzer lately too, also nice so far - albeit 
more flexible in the sole but likely will be cooler than the Sambas once 
the summa heat comes.

KJ


On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:39:17 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Bill
Yeah, it's too bad companies like Riv and Waterford aren't huge enough to 
afford dedicated QC engineers who closely scrutinize every little component 
specification to ensure totally flawless consumer products. You know, like 
Trek. ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
Hetres or LoupLoup pass need 50mm fenders minimum, IMO.
On Apr 29, 2015 3:05 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use Hetres at 50psi on my 52 Blue Sam with P45 fenders, raised as far
 from the tire as the frame allows with mounting from the fender tab on the
 front fender, and mounting the fender directly to the eyelet under the seat
 stay bridge with a bolt.

 I am hoping to put Loups on for my next set, as they will allow more
 clearance under fenders. It is pretty tight. Most would probably think it
 is ok, and it has been great, but I like lots of clearance.

 I also have a Bleriot that I have used Hetres as well as Loups on. The
 Loups feel plenty cushy at 45psi. Allows much more clearance under the
 fenders than the Hetres did. I think the Hetres get me 1cm all around, the
 Loups get me a lot more.

 *So, I think both tires have a comparable ride quality at these pressures,
 but just decide if you like more clearance under fenders or not.
 Disclaimer: I weigh about 175lbs. I don't know how they will feel in
 another weight class and at different pressures.*

 The Cypress will allow massive overkill fender clearance. I had them on my
 Sam for a short time, and they were nice at 50 or 55 psi, if I remember
 right. But you won't get as good ability to road through cracked roads with
 tires that narrow, from my experience

 But again, all these tires are great. I like them at low pressures.

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[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
I use Hetres at 50psi on my 52 Blue Sam with P45 fenders, raised as far 
from the tire as the frame allows with mounting from the fender tab on the 
front fender, and mounting the fender directly to the eyelet under the seat 
stay bridge with a bolt.

I am hoping to put Loups on for my next set, as they will allow more 
clearance under fenders. It is pretty tight. Most would probably think it 
is ok, and it has been great, but I like lots of clearance.

I also have a Bleriot that I have used Hetres as well as Loups on. The 
Loups feel plenty cushy at 45psi. Allows much more clearance under the 
fenders than the Hetres did. I think the Hetres get me 1cm all around, the 
Loups get me a lot more.

*So, I think both tires have a comparable ride quality at these pressures, 
but just decide if you like more clearance under fenders or not. 
Disclaimer: I weigh about 175lbs. I don't know how they will feel in 
another weight class and at different pressures.*

The Cypress will allow massive overkill fender clearance. I had them on my 
Sam for a short time, and they were nice at 50 or 55 psi, if I remember 
right. But you won't get as good ability to road through cracked roads with 
tires that narrow, from my experience

But again, all these tires are great. I like them at low pressures.

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[RBW] Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Clayton.sf

Go as wide as you can that will still give you at least 5mm clearance at any 
point (fenders, stays, fork crown, etc). 10mm even better. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Bill Lindsay
Let me know if you want me to take your Barlow Pass tires off your hands. 
 I found the extralights to be astonishingly nice on my Hillborne, and 
would love a set of regular weight ones for my Atlantis.  Are you missing 
something?  Maybe, but you should trust your senses.  Don't let somebody 
else tell you that you like something if you don't like it.  Somebody will 
love those tires.  

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 8:05:39 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:

 I picked up a pair of Barlow Pass, regular weight tires last weekend and 
 mounted them on my Atlantis.  They are mounted on an 36h XT Mavic A719 rear 
 and a 36h dyno Velocity Synergy front and gave them a test on a 25 miler 
 this morning.  They definitely feel lively and plush, like walking barefoot 
 on a nice rug.  Based on my experience with the Stampede Pass (also regular 
 weight) on my Romulus, I expected them to be significantly faster than the 
 Marathon Supremes that they replaced,  but I was disappointed in this 
 regard.  Certainly not enough of an improvement in either comfort or speed 
 to give up the flat resistance afforded by the Supremes, especially on a 
 commuter.  The Supreme's went back on tonight.  Am I missing something?  I 
 have been thrilled with the Stampede Pass on the Rom, and I now consider 
 them non-negotiable. 


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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as 
fast as he wanted.  My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and 
it rolls extremely well 

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 Hi Daren,

 What size Marathon Supremes are you riding?  And what pressures are 
 you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows?

 Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis?

 I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer 
 than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular 
 Barlows?

 Thanks,

 John


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[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
I would go wide, so Babyshoes, and the feather lights are a big difference 
too.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Garth, the VP Vice are 4 at the axel and taper forward and aft to 3 front 
and rear. The length of 4 includes the rear downward taper, which when 
ridden barefoot gives them a nice, smooth feel. I'd estimate it at 3/8ish.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 10:48:11 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:

 Oh yes Patrick !   Doh on my part !  I was thinking of the MKS Grip 
 Kings, whatever model number/name that is .  

 Is the 4 width from the inside of the crank arm to the outer edge , or 
 just the cage itself ? and the 4 for/aft for the total platform, including 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-29 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hi All,

Thank you all for the Birthday well wishes! It was an extraordinary
Birthday! Thankfully I have an understanding wife who understands that
besides being with her my next favorite thing is being in the saddle and
camping! Being rained on only made it all the more adventurous. This
camping spot has been so well received by all the Riv riders here in SoCal
that our Mike S. reserved another night in May. May you all have the wind
at your backs and good friends to pedal beside you.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
Yeah, I was mostly hoping to speed up the Atlantis a little, but it just 
didn't happen.  Its already very comfortable with the big Supremes, but my 
time over the route was the same with both tires.  Maybe on a lighter wheel 
the difference would be more pronounced.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as 
 fast as he wanted.  My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and 
 it rolls extremely well 

 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 Hi Daren,

 What size Marathon Supremes are you riding?  And what pressures are 
 you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows?

 Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis?

 I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer 
 than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular 
 Barlows?

 Thanks,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
Fix It Again, Tony

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds'
 alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;)

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subie WRX... best of both worlds!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote:

 *I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.*

 It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads
 you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went
 through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten
 years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously
 expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to
 the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda
 Civic :)


 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have
 if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride.
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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[RBW] Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Kellie
I've been using the same pair of GB Cypress for almost 2 years and love them. 
I've even been on dirt and light gravel with them.

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Not to rob Bill of his possible tire purchase from you, but you may be 
running the Barlows too high. I weigh 200 and run my tires at 30-40 PSI. 
Smooth as butter. The suppler the casing the less the need for pressure and 
the greater the tire's ability to conform to the road, making it faster.

With abandon,
Patrick

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 I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front.  On my test ride the other 
 day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag.


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[RBW] What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread Kellie
If you think pedals are the way to go, I've used VP Thin Gripsters for a year 
or so and really like them. I just ordered VO touring pedals for my Saluki 
build. A slightly smaller platform but takes clips. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front.  On my test ride the other 
day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-6, John wrote:

 Hi Daren,

 What size Marathon Supremes are you riding?  And what pressures are 
 you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows?

 Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis?

 I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer 
 than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular 
 Barlows?

 Thanks,

 John


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[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
Yes, 50mm fenders are preferable to the 45mm Longboards.
Hetres and Loups fit nicely under my Honjo H-50 fenders.
The Longboards are just barely wide enough.

Fender clearance depends on the frame/fork construction and their 
fenderable limits. Narrower (and thus shorter) tires will help with 
clearance, too.

Why not leave the fenders on all year to protect you and the bike from the 
grunge in the occasional puddle and dirt? 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
I have wondered about the added speed issue myself.
I don't think I have become faster on any tire I have tried.
Perhaps those benefits can only be realized by the ultra-fit. I am not 
ultra-fit. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Zack
hmm.

i have barlow passes on my sam.  i am not sure they make me a whole lot 
faster.  i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like 
i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better.  i replaced some 
marathons as well.

i think it's like running in hiking boots and then putting sneakers on.  i 
may not be way faster in sneakers than i am in boots, but it sure is more 
comfortable to run.

(just wanted to say this in case someone came across this thread and was 
somehow dissuaded from trying some new tires, the barlow passes are the 
single biggest improvement i have made to my bike since i actually bought a 
riv that fits)

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Chen
Chukkas! https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15696228751/

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I posted a similar request regarding shoes with thin gripsters and got
 lots of great advice (
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/surlyprof$20shoes/rbw-owners-bunch/aVHSUQf7RRM/udfBHiIE_g8J).
 I have slightly wider feet so some of the recommendations wouldn't work.
 Ended up buying Scarpa Mystic Lites (http://www.scarpa.com/mystic-lite).
 They have a little more of a hiking sole than I would like but the soles
 are stiffer than the sneakers I was using.  Next time I may try their
 approach shoe such as their Vitamin or Crux.  Seek out sales.  I found
 the Mystic Lites for $59.  Christopher Chen recommended Red Wing Chukkas.
 I actually stumbled across a pair of irregulars in black (postman shoes)
 for 40 bucks so I bought them.  Probably too dorky to wear with shorts
 (unless you are in uniform) but I have to admit, when I commuted to work in
 them, they were pretty awesome.  I may have to eat the full price of the
 tan or brown ones in the future.  Their website is offering a $20 off
 coupon if that helps.

 John


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use?
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles.
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Chen
They make 50mm longboards now right?

I have P50 chromaplastics on my A Saluki Hilsen, they have relatively
generous clearance around the babyshoe pass tires.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, 50mm fenders are preferable to the 45mm Longboards.
 Hetres and Loups fit nicely under my Honjo H-50 fenders.
 The Longboards are just barely wide enough.

 Fender clearance depends on the frame/fork construction and their
 fenderable limits. Narrower (and thus shorter) tires will help with
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 Why not leave the fenders on all year to protect you and the bike from the
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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Chen
Hell you should take those fenders off; California needs all the help it
can get!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:13 PM, David Stein davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just took the fenders off, sadly...I live in California and I doubt
 we're going to see much, if any, rain until November. So without fenders
 the consensus seems to be go as wide as you can.

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use Hetres at 50psi on my 52 Blue Sam with P45 fenders, raised as far
 from the tire as the frame allows with mounting from the fender tab on the
 front fender, and mounting the fender directly to the eyelet under the seat
 stay bridge with a bolt.

 I am hoping to put Loups on for my next set, as they will allow more
 clearance under fenders. It is pretty tight. Most would probably think it
 is ok, and it has been great, but I like lots of clearance.

 I also have a Bleriot that I have used Hetres as well as Loups on. The
 Loups feel plenty cushy at 45psi. Allows much more clearance under the
 fenders than the Hetres did. I think the Hetres get me 1cm all around, the
 Loups get me a lot more.

 *So, I think both tires have a comparable ride quality at these
 pressures, but just decide if you like more clearance under fenders or not.
 Disclaimer: I weigh about 175lbs. I don't know how they will feel in
 another weight class and at different pressures.*

 The Cypress will allow massive overkill fender clearance. I had them on
 my Sam for a short time, and they were nice at 50 or 55 psi, if I remember
 right. But you won't get as good ability to road through cracked roads with
 tires that narrow, from my experience

 But again, all these tires are great. I like them at low pressures.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-29 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks  David! Isn't a ride on your day wonderful.
On Apr 29, 2015 5:08 PM, David Crowell d...@davidcrowell.com wrote:

 Happy Birthday!

 Sunday was my birthday.  I rode around town a bit.


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:50:45 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Rondo bags on a Hilsen

2015-04-29 Thread Don Funke
I have a 63cm Homer Hilsen and considering purchasing a Acorn Tall Rondo 
bag to place on a Nitto M18 front rack. I am a bit concerned about how this 
may affect the handling characteristics. I'm sure if I loaded it with 
bricks I would have some issues, but what about, say 7 lbs of food and 
clothing for a brevet? Any ideas?

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Re: [RBW] Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Chen
Happy birthday!
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 Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Re: L'Eroica California (Oh how I wish I went)

2015-04-29 Thread Scott Calhoun
The event, course, people and food were tons of fun. I rode my '71 Raleigh 
International, updated with silver shifters, silver dual-pivot brakes, and 
modern 10 Campy record hubs (with free hub body). The hubs were laced to 32 
hole silver Pacenti PL23 700c box rims, and therefore looked somewhat 
correct. My bike technically met the most critical regulations (pre-1987 
frame, friction dt shifters, non-aero brakes, toe clips, and wheels with 32 
spokes), but because I acquired my bike as a frame only, my parts were not 
period correct. I didn't have the time/money to hunt down all the period 
parts so I built it with what I had on hand in my parts bins. From what I 
saw, enforcement of regulations was on the honor system and I felt like my 
bike build was in the spirit of the event. I did see a couple of Rivendells 
with modern parts. 

I'll for sure be back next year. Great riding, company, and food. Wes did a 
great job IMO. I'm also itching to do the Japan Eroica. I rode with the 
Japanese organizers for a bit in California and I have a 1973 Fuji Finest 
that is ready to ride around Mt. Fuji.

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:34:38 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:

 One of my close associates at work had the opportunity to participate in 
 LEroica 
 California. http://www.eroicacalifornia.com/ Next year, I am there. 
  MUST DO IT.  If I can drag any of you along, that would be great.

 In the mean time, he shared some links to what constitutes some awesome 
 bicycle eye candy.

 Day 1 http://www.plattyjo.com/2015-leroica-california-day-1/
 Day 2 http://www.plattyjo.com/2015-leroica-california/

 Oh, do I now regret separating from my first serious bike, an Ital Vega 
 Super Record (1971).  Drilled out Campy Record and Candy Root Beer 531 with 
 the most beautiful lugs and filets.

 My friend rode a 55 year old Paramount.  It is a fantastic bike today as 
 our Rivendell products will be 55 years from now.

 Nevertheless, I think Sam Hillborne or Boulder All Road would fit right in 
 with these folks.  They seem to have a lot of the same spirit as the RBW 
 Owners Bunch.

 Hope you like this.

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[RBW] Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-29 Thread Carla Waugh
I love your Woody fenders on your Sam!

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[RBW] Re: Finally... Albastache!

2015-04-29 Thread Carla Waugh
Nice!

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[RBW] Re: Saluki

2015-04-29 Thread Carla Waugh
It's a beauty!

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[RBW] Re: V.O. fixed wheelset?

2015-04-29 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I'd give Rich a call.  Spent a little more to get a Phil hub built up for 
the QB and it's been amazingly solid.  Threw it on the truing stand this 
winter and it was still spot on and rounder than round.  

http://www.handsonwheels.com/

- Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] Re: Saluki

2015-04-29 Thread Kellie
Thanks so much Carla.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote:

 It's a beauty!

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[RBW] Brooks Saddle Repair - Broken Tension Shackle

2015-04-29 Thread SeanMac
As I was heading out the door for my bike ride yesterday afternoon I 
realized that there was a problem with my much loved Brooks Swift 
(titanium) saddle.  I put my hand on the top of the saddle and noticed an 
unusual amount of flex.  Upon closer inspection, it was obvious that 
something was wrong.  It turns out that part of the tension shackle, the 
part that connects the nose of the saddle to the saddle frame, had broken.  
Bummer.  

The saddle has at least 12,000 miles, and the leather is in great shape, so 
I want to have this problem fixed.  A new tension shackle can be obtained 
very inexpensively (only $3.50 for the chromed steel version).  However, as 
I have never carried out this repair, I am looking for some guidance / 
encouragement / advice.  A quick internet search turned up a few good 
tidbits, but I'm hoping for some help here from the experts.  Is this a 
relatively easy repair that a mechanic with limited skills can complete or 
would I be much better off shipping the saddle to a qualified repair expert?

If this is not a home mechanic job, I would appreciate advice on where to 
have it fixed - ideally in the USA.

Thanks,
Sean

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[RBW] 51cm Sam Hillborne build: advice?

2015-04-29 Thread Zach Duval
Greetings Riv-owning folks,

Today my new Sam Hillborne frameset arrived, and I'm beyond stoked to start 
building 'er up. I opted for only the frameset because I work for a local 
bike shop and am able to get some pretty sweet deals on components. 
However, I'm new to the shop and this will be my first build from scratch, 
so I'm open to advice.

I'd like the Sam set up with mid-weight touring in mind, with some 
flexibility to maintain a comfortable and reasonably speedy unloaded ride, 
and will definitely be going drop-bar style with Noodles.

My question for you folks is what are some key upgrades I might consider 
over the standard build kit suggested on Riv's website? What have you 
learned from outfitting your own Rivs?

Lay on the Riv wisdom.

Thanks!




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Re: [RBW] V.O. fixed wheelset?

2015-04-29 Thread A. Douglas M.
I also had concerns about the VeloMine wheels. I called up and spoke with the 
owner (can't remember his name), but he was extremely helpful. I asked if it 
would be a problem for them to check spoke tension prior to shipping them out. 
He stated that he'd be happy to do so. Something to consider!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders

2015-04-29 Thread Chris Chen
Looks awesome!

I'm always afraid of interrupted fenders because I want to keep junk out of
the headset, but man, that's really pretty!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:34 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 I have an orange frame in 60 cm with single TT. It fits Big Ben 700x50.
 Any interest? $750 plus shipping. No dents and no major scratches. A few
 pump scratch marks under the seat lug.

 -Jim W.

 p.s. I won't be able to reply until Wednesday if you're interested.


 On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Dan wrote:

 Every time I see a photo of a Sam with RnR's I regret selling mine
 prematurely. Anybody got a 60cm green Sam they're not riding that they
 would sell?

 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:08:38 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:

 Despite the fact that my Hillborne with Noodles and Barlow Pass tires is
 the best bike ever, I've had a hankering to get the set of rock n' roads on
 there for a ramble or three through the local off-roady trails. Being a
 member of team fenders made this more of an engineering effort than it had
 to be if I could have just allowed myself to yank the existing longboard
 fenders off.

 I knew for sure I'd need to split the front fender into a front and rear
 segment, as there would not be room for the fender to pass under the fork
 crown. Having had Cody at woodysfenders.com make me a customer rear
 chopped fender for my recent XOXO build, I thought it would be a good idea
 to have him make and chop a front fender for me. I thought I might get away
 without having to have a split rear fender, but I ordered some extra
 hardware from Cody in case I had to split the fender myself.

 I spent a bit of time this morning getting everything sorted, which
 included having to cut the rear fender into two segments. I'm happy to now
 have a befendered rock n' roaded Hillborne. There's a fair amount of
 clearance, though I don't think I'll be doing any mud-bogging with any
 success, but I don't suppose that's my style anyhow. Ride report is pending
 some adventurous extracurricular commuting this week - for now, indoor pics:








 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD


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[RBW] WTT Crystal Fellow - my short for your longer

2015-04-29 Thread ant ritchey
what's up everyone-

Hoping to find someone out there with a Nitto S65 Crystal Fella 27.2 in 
excellent condition that wants a shorter post for whatever reason.

I inevitably ride with more post than the usual fare and the one i'm ridin' 
on right now doesn't get me up high enough even when 
slightly-over-maxed-out.

I don't know exactly how to state the length of my S65 but I'd say it is 
200 or 210 mm.

lemme know if you can help.

ant/pdx


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Re: [RBW] Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-29 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks Chris!
On Apr 29, 2015 5:08 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 Happy birthday!
 On Apr 27, 2015 12:50 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread Ryan Fleming
Those SIDI shoes Grant used to sell. Keen sandals look like they'd work 
since they have a fairly stiff sole
On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 What do you all use? 
 Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
 Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch
I love the sabots.  No creaking issues.  Very comfortable (the most I ride 
anymore is 70 miles, tops).  Rode 40 miles in the rain once with an old 
pair of Keen sandals and had no issues with slippage.  Highly recommended 
from my point of view.
Tim Petersen

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:53:15 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

 So tell me how yours are, and if you feel uniform support all under your 
 foot or not, and if they feel good on long rides and not allow pressure 
 points to be sore on the bottom of the feet after.

 Thanks for your time and thoughts.

 *Backstory, and details:*
 I am thinking of looking for a platform pedal that will be comfortable in 
 any shoe, no matter the sole construction (thick/thin/stiff/flimsy). On 
 another thread, I asked about good shoes for platform pedals, but seems it 
 could be a long and expensive time of try outs. So I was thinking get some 
 pedals that work great with any shoe and I won't be tied to just a single 
 shoe model that works for me.
 The Sabots seem to be the flattest, widest, longest, and most uniform 
 based (for maximum support). I think they are 100 x 100mm square shaped 
 pedals.
 I want something at least as wide as my MKS touring pedals (which the 
 Sabots are). And something without a lot of space cut out for maximum 
 uniform support underfoot (a feature the Sabots have).
 Thin Gripsters seem to be a close second, for what I am looking for 
 design-wise, as well as the Vice pedals. I am also thinking of trying the 
 MKS Sneaker Pedals, though they are a little narrower and don't have the 
 silver spindle aesthaetic I like. No to grip kings, and anything else that 
 is less wide than the MKS Touring pedal. They just make my feet feel like 
 they are rolling off the sides. So I need that wide support about 90mm+ 
 wide.


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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread ant ritchey
So far I'm loving the Sabots!

Didn't care for the Grip Kings.  Love the MKS touring but, yeah, wanted 
something bigger.  I own the VP Thin Gripsters and like them, however I 
prefer toe cages, so the VO Sabot was the next logical step.  Call me 
crazy.  I do a lot of touring, gravel, dirt, etc. on a number of different 
Rivs.  At the end of the day street shoes + cages/straps feel the best to 
me.

However- I have not logged too many miles on the VO Sabot w/ or w/o toe 
cage, so my input may not be of much use.  Just wanted to chime in and let 
you know that I'm pretty happy thus far.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 8:53:15 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 So tell me how yours are, and if you feel uniform support all under your 
 foot or not, and if they feel good on long rides and not allow pressure 
 points to be sore on the bottom of the feet after.

 Thanks for your time and thoughts.

 *Backstory, and details:*
 I am thinking of looking for a platform pedal that will be comfortable in 
 any shoe, no matter the sole construction (thick/thin/stiff/flimsy). On 
 another thread, I asked about good shoes for platform pedals, but seems it 
 could be a long and expensive time of try outs. So I was thinking get some 
 pedals that work great with any shoe and I won't be tied to just a single 
 shoe model that works for me.
 The Sabots seem to be the flattest, widest, longest, and most uniform 
 based (for maximum support). I think they are 100 x 100mm square shaped 
 pedals.
 I want something at least as wide as my MKS touring pedals (which the 
 Sabots are). And something without a lot of space cut out for maximum 
 uniform support underfoot (a feature the Sabots have).
 Thin Gripsters seem to be a close second, for what I am looking for 
 design-wise, as well as the Vice pedals. I am also thinking of trying the 
 MKS Sneaker Pedals, though they are a little narrower and don't have the 
 silver spindle aesthaetic I like. No to grip kings, and anything else that 
 is less wide than the MKS Touring pedal. They just make my feet feel like 
 they are rolling off the sides. So I need that wide support about 90mm+ 
 wide.


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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike overnight.

2015-04-29 Thread David Crowell
Happy Birthday!

Sunday was my birthday.  I rode around town a bit.


On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:50:45 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 Just some pictures of a good time on a bike with a good friend.

 Here http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA


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[RBW] Re: fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

2015-04-29 Thread sasha eysymontt
Sold, thanks Tom!

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:32:16 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 Sasha, I'll take it!  Tom 

 more later back at my computer! 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I know around here (and likely elsewhere), the big thing are supported 
rides - people get used to a car or truck having everything they need - 
besides, they paid for it.  Probably even more so makes them feel like 
junior TDF - they're used to having a pit crew

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 8:47:45 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each 
 rider ain't a bad day's income!


  

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[RBW] Re: V.O. fixed wheelset?

2015-04-29 Thread Justin August
I had a set of wheels built using the same components as the VO wheels but in 
650b. Great hubs. So smooth and the rims are great. 

However my brother got a set of the prebuilt 9sp VO wheels in their build kit 
and the first several rides he sounded like he was trying to make a musical art 
bike there was so much noise coming out of the wheels as the adjusted. They are 
silent now. He hasn't retrued them but hasn't checked to see if they need it 
either. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: 2015 JBL Haleiwa Metric Century

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
I am delighted to hear about your riding and health improvements! Fantastic 
ride, Bob! Your weight difference is similar to mine. I dropped from 280 to 
190 four years ago when I shifted to paleo (and now ketogenic). I'm at 200 
now, I suspect because of increased leg muscle (I'm actually leaner round 
the waist). For rides longer than 50 miles, I take a block of cheese, but 
almost never touch it. That may change as I head for 200K distances. I 
don't eat breakfast and often don't even have a creamed coffee or tea 
before I ride, so I'm riding fasted from dinner the night before and feel 
great the entire ride.

Keep loving your QB and Hunqapillar! They are an amazing two-bike combo!

With abandon,
Patrick


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Re: [RBW] Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Christopher Paul
Just had the same problem with a bike that I built for my son.  Brought the
bike into an LBS and discovered that the seat tube was out of spec. It was
27.4 instead of 27.2.  They cut a shim for me as a temporary fix and it
didn't work, even though it was the right thickness of .2 mm.  Fortunately,
they make 27.4 seat posts and I got a hold of one  but that even slipped.
Then I changed the seat post collar from a fancy thin titanium type to a
wider one and cinched it tight. Voila, finally the seat post didn't budge.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+
 miles to work this morning.  Although still too early to tell, it has my
 very favorite bike stamped all over it.
 With one possible exception:  I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping
 down.  Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is
 starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six
 times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up.  Very
 frustrating.  I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was
 interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be
 avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain
 attached to the seatpost bolt.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem?
 Best to all,
 Kevin

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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
No offense, Matt outdoor weathering neglect is the only thing that will 
fuse a seatpost and seat tube by corrosion.  Galvanic corrosion between 
aluminum and steel is a myth, and in fact, lithium in grease is great for 
steel in resisting corrosion, but Bad for aluminum.  If you need something 
other than grease to get a grip on your seatpost, you're not going to 
destroy anything by doing it.  
Licensed professional corrosion engineer.  

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:37 PM UTC-5, hangtownmatt wrote:

 For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to 
 prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the 
 only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact 
 point?

 Matt




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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I appreciate the heads up from both of you.  I'm riding Challenge Strada 
Biancas on two bikes, and one of the bikes has room for barlows.  Loving my 
$50 tires, which ride fast and plush at 60/50,  and would hate to be 
disappointed by $80 tires.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:04:08 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 I swapped regular weight Stampede Pass for Extralight Barlows on my 
 Hilsen. I found the Stampede Pass to be a huge improvement over my trusty 
 Jack Browns (and I'm not typically one to notice much difference in such 
 things) but, while the Barlows are certainly plush, I'm not so sure they're 
 faster than the Stampedes.

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Re: [RBW] Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
I think this is why Jan was initially reluctant to offer the Barlow Pass
tires as maybe he knew the feel would not be as good as some of his other
offerings.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:

 I picked up a pair of Barlow Pass, regular weight tires last weekend and
 mounted them on my Atlantis.  They are mounted on an 36h XT Mavic A719 rear
 and a 36h dyno Velocity Synergy front and gave them a test on a 25 miler
 this morning.  They definitely feel lively and plush, like walking barefoot
 on a nice rug.  Based on my experience with the Stampede Pass (also regular
 weight) on my Romulus, I expected them to be significantly faster than the
 Marathon Supremes that they replaced,  but I was disappointed in this
 regard.  Certainly not enough of an improvement in either comfort or speed
 to give up the flat resistance afforded by the Supremes, especially on a
 commuter.  The Supreme's went back on tonight.  Am I missing something?  I
 have been thrilled with the Stampede Pass on the Rom, and I now consider
 them non-negotiable.

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[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Riding around other people was a new experience for me. I'll see folks out 
on the remote roads and trails, but if they are stopped fixing something 
they are prepared, because being remote demands self sufficiency -- all the 
more because cell reception is spotty at best in many of those places. This 
was my first ride into population and preparedness is less a perceived 
consideration (I suppose) because there is always cell signal and help 
nearby. This felt like encountering a tourist in trouble when trail 
running.

I am recovering some today, but not nearly as much as I thought I might 
before this boundary pushing experiment. I have no desire to ride there 
often, but it sure is amazing to know that I am now able to when I choose 
to. Horizons keep slowly expanding!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread cyclotourist
Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each
rider ain't a bad day's income!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 more than twice I've loaned my pump to roadies on the roadside.  It's
 always a pleasant conversation.  If we get back to the original problem it
 becomes a question of people buying into an image that's being sold,
 compounded by peer pressure, since the lion's share of group rides are
 built around the bike shops doing the selling.


 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5, Kobe* wrote:

 That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2
 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn't be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have
 if I'd had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride.
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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RE: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
“chaperone nightmare” made me laugh!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:18 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a 
barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like grease 
with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too close is a 
chaperone nightmare.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote:
For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent 
corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the only one who 
thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point?

Matt
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[RBW] Re: VO Sabot pedal reviews needed, please.

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thin gripsters = VP-001 don't they? I believe they are the same basic 
dimensions at the VP Vice (which I ride), which measure 4 x 4 or 10.16 cm 
x 10.16 cm.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 6:18:49 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:


 I recall seeing a photo somehwere of the thin gripsters and the VP-001 
 and some other pedals .  Thin Gripsters are not wide at all, just long 
 fore/aft . 


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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient 
to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth.  You 
don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the 
metal surface and condensation.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:

 The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a 
 barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like 
 grease with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too 
 close is a chaperone nightmare. 

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote:

 For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to 
 prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the 
 only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact 
 point?

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
whatever seals out the weather solves the weathering corrosion problem

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:46:21 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient 
 to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth.  You 
 don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the 
 metal surface and condensation.  



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[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost

2015-04-29 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a 
barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like 
grease with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too 
close is a chaperone nightmare. 

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote:

 For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to 
 prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube.  Am I the 
 only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact 
 point?

 Matt


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[RBW] Re: Rondo bags on a Hilsen

2015-04-29 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have been running the smaller Acorn on a 63cm Saluki with no problems, 
but have not pushed the weight up to that level.  I also go with a 
Carradice Barley bag  SQR when I do grocery shopping.  That works pretty 
well.  I have ordered a large Bertoud (see earlier thread - tall bikes  
decaleurs or something like that).  and will post the results of that when 
I get it operational.

Michael

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 8:08:30 PM UTC-4, Don Funke wrote:

 I have a 63cm Homer Hilsen and considering purchasing a Acorn Tall Rondo 
 bag to place on a Nitto M18 front rack. I am a bit concerned about how this 
 may affect the handling characteristics. I'm sure if I loaded it with 
 bricks I would have some issues, but what about, say 7 lbs of food and 
 clothing for a brevet? Any ideas?


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[RBW] Re: Rondo bags on a Hilsen

2015-04-29 Thread Brian Campbell
Don,

I am running large Acorn bag on my 61 cm Hilsen. I am guessing my regular 
weight comes in between 5-7lbs. I use mine for commuting to work. Clothes, 
lunch, repair kit, wallet, phone etc. No real issue handling. I have a 
descent on the way, that drops about 500+feet over 3/4 of a mile. I have 
hit speeds (not trying) of around 35 mph. No handling issues to speak of. I 
am in S.E PA. and the roads are in pretty bad shape overall. Tough couple 
of winters back to back have left things pretty broke up. Here is a pic.I 
am using the Nitto Marks rack with double struts.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/bylar13/A83A23A4-999A-4C4A-A4E1-5AEF09C4C6CC_zpsq943urkb.jpg


On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 8:08:30 PM UTC-4, Don Funke wrote:

 I have a 63cm Homer Hilsen and considering purchasing a Acorn Tall Rondo 
 bag to place on a Nitto M18 front rack. I am a bit concerned about how this 
 may affect the handling characteristics. I'm sure if I loaded it with 
 bricks I would have some issues, but what about, say 7 lbs of food and 
 clothing for a brevet? Any ideas?


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[RBW] Brief Apology to the Forum

2015-04-29 Thread James Warren

The other day, I intended to "reply to sender" in the middle of a thread to tellthat particular posterthat I could sell him an item if he was interested. Instead I made that common (for me) mistake of just hitting the reply the button, forgetting that that puts it on the forum, and this is how I accidentally put a For Sale Noticeinto a thread that was about something else with no FS in my subject line. Tacky but accidental. Sorry about that.

-Jim W.
-Original Message- From: Chris Chen Sent: Apr 28, 2015 12:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne + Rock N' Roads + (woody) Fenders 
Looks awesome!

I'm always afraid of interrupted fenders because I want to keep junk out of the headset, but man, that's really pretty!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:34 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:


I have an orange frame in 60 cm with single TT. It fits Big Ben 700x50. Any interest? $750 plus shipping. No dents and no major scratches. A few pump scratch marks under the seat lug.

-Jim W.

p.s. I won't be able to reply until Wednesday if you're interested.





On Apr 28, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Dan wrote:

Every time I see a photo of a Sam with RnR's I regret selling mine prematurely. Anybody got a 60cm green Sam they're not riding that they would sell?On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:08:38 PM UTC-5, Jeff wrote:

Despite the fact that my Hillborne with Noodles and Barlow Pass tires is the best bike ever, I've had a hankering to get the set of rock n' roads on there for a ramble or three through the local off-roady trails. Being a member of team fenders made this more of an engineering effort than it had to be if I could have just allowed myself to yank the existing longboard fenders off.

I knew for sure I'd need to split the front fender into a front and rear segment, as there would not be room for the fender to pass under the fork crown. Having had Cody at woodysfenders.com make me a customer rear chopped fender for my recent XOXO build, I thought it would be a good idea to have him make and chop a front fender for me. I thought I might get away without having to have a split rear fender, but I ordered some extra hardware from Cody in case I had to split the fender myself.

I spent a bit of time this morning getting everything sorted, which included having to cut the rear fender into two segments. I'm happy to now have a befendered rock n' roaded Hillborne. There's a fair amount of clearance, though I don't think I'll be doing any mud-bogging with any success, but I don't suppose that's my style anyhow. Ride report is pending some adventurous extracurricular commuting this week - for now, indoor pics:


-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD
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[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread ted
DS,
I have used 32 mm GB Cypres and ~41 mm Soma GR tires on my 650B AHH.
I will disent from the likely majority opinion and suggest you go with the 
38 mm tires.
I found the 32 mm tires to be excellent for all the roads around me, and I 
also rode them on local trails and fire roads with no problems. So I am 
inclined to think 32 mm is wide enough. That said they did look a bit lost 
in all that clearance, whereas the larger tires fill up the space nicely, 
and there is no significant down side to going a bit wider.
I suggest the 38s over the 42s because they will pass the brakes inflated 
more easily than the 42s (assuming your Sam doesn't have cantilever 
brakes). Also if you want fenders come next fall, clearance and coverage 
will be easier with the 38s. When I changed from 32 to 40+ tires I noticed 
differences but they were modest enough that I doubt I would notice much 
difference between 38 and 42. I suspect that 38 is the goldilocks size for 
bikes like ours, particularly for virtually all paved road use.

If you are in the SF Bay area and we can work out the transfer, you can try 
out my Cypres tires if you like. One has a small casing cut that should 
probably be booted but otherwise they are fine.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-7, DS wrote:

 I need the collective wisdom and varied opinions of this group to help me 
 decide, or further confuse me, on the 38mm or 42mm Compass tire for my 
 lightweight wheelset build for my 650b Sam. My other wheelset has Soma 
 Cazaderos. Should I go as wide as I can fit wit the 42mm Babyshoes (are 
 there wider that can fit the sam)? Or stay a little narrower with the 38M 
 Loup Loups? Or even more narrower with they 32m Cypres? This will be used 
 97% of the time on decent to well paved roads.

 Also, if anyone has a lightly used set of any of these for sale let me 
 know ;)


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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

2015-04-29 Thread Tom Goodmann
Thanks, Sasha. Thrilled about this!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, sasha eysymontt sas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sold, thanks Tom!


 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:32:16 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 Sasha, I'll take it!  Tom

 more later back at my computer!

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[RBW] WTB 700c tourish wheels

2015-04-29 Thread drew
ok, gonna come at this wheel issue another way. previously i was looking 
for an ultra cheap pair to put on a bike im selling. nothing was really 
happening below the 75$ mark, so now im thinking i might want to put my 
most so-so/used up wheels on that bike as part of the sale and dedicate the 
money to a new-to-me wheelset for a sam h. i'd like to spend between 
150$-200$. maybe you've got something you don't need anymore. maybe, like 
me, you want to upgrade to something better than what you've got, but what 
you've got would be good for me. 

*ideally, looking for*
-something good for light touring and occassional dirt. strong like.
-36 spoke or 32fx36r, 135 rear spacing
-room for 38-50mm tires. 
-7-9speed cassette
-dynamo might be cool. ive never had a dynamo set up. might not be in the 
budget though, and definitely not a necessity. 
-low miles

also, i guess if you have just one wheel, i wouldn't mind mixing and 
matching, though that can sometimes jack up the cost in the long run. 


i have an xd2-600 triple crank and some cromo albatross bars, if you want 
to do a partial trade too. 

thanks! 




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Re: [RBW] Rondo bags on a Hilsen

2015-04-29 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I don't know about the Tall Rando bag, but I have the regular one and rode
a 600k with it.  I filled it with food and clothes around the 5-7 lb range
and had no handling issues. I did feel like I overloaded the front once
with too much food and had to redistribute some of the heavy things to my
rear saddle bag.  It kind of felt like it was really hard to control the
bike when it was stopped.  Once I swapped some food for clothes it felt
fine.

Toshi


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wrote:

 I have a 63cm Homer Hilsen and considering purchasing a Acorn Tall Rondo
 bag to place on a Nitto M18 front rack. I am a bit concerned about how this
 may affect the handling characteristics. I'm sure if I loaded it with
 bricks I would have some issues, but what about, say 7 lbs of food and
 clothing for a brevet? Any ideas?

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[RBW] 51cm Sam Hillborne build: advice?

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
1. RBW Silver bar end shifters are tops if you are into friction shifting only. 
Run an 8-speed cassette for better friction shifting.

2. Brand Bois Hetre tires, if your bike is 650b

3. Compass Loup Loup Pass tires, if bike is 650b

4. Get curent black label Grand Bois 650b 36 hole rims laced to LX hubs because 
mounting Hetres on 650b Synergy rims is a bear to do. They pretty much 
auto-seat on Grand Bois rims, though. Put any Dynamo hub you like on the front 
wheel so you can run a dyno headlight.

5. Definitely replace the stock black Tektro R559 brake pads with a salmon pad 
for better wet weather braking.

6. If you like your bars below saddle height, get a Nitto Pearl Stem. Tallux 
and Technomics will bottom out at saddle height. Their rise is too high. Pearls 
have a shorter rise to get bars lower than saddle height. At least on my 52 
Blue Sam it is that way.

But if you don't upgrade anything, you will still have one of the finest bikes 
on the planet.

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[RBW] 51cm Sam Hillborne build: advice?

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
PS- congrats on the bike! Be sure to post pics so we can see it!

Also, remember, I think there is a fender attachment eyelet under the brake 
bridge on your Sam. There is on mine. You can bolt a fender directly to it 
instead of using a bracket that hangs from brake bolt.

Also, slap some Iris King Cage bottle cages on the bike They look and work 
great!

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[RBW] Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread DS
I need the collective wisdom and varied opinions of this group to help me 
decide, or further confuse me, on the 38mm or 42mm Compass tire for my 
lightweight wheelset build for my 650b Sam. My other wheelset has Soma 
Cazaderos. Should I go as wide as I can fit wit the 42mm Babyshoes (are 
there wider that can fit the sam)? Or stay a little narrower with the 38M 
Loup Loups? Or even more narrower with they 32m Cypres? This will be used 
97% of the time on decent to well paved roads.

Also, if anyone has a lightly used set of any of these for sale let me know 
;)

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[RBW] Re: Rondo bags on a Hilsen

2015-04-29 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a large Berthoud on my 63 Hilsen. I've had no issues on fast descents 
except for one shimmy on one descent, which was not my fastest descent ever. I 
think the bag must have been loaded funny. I clamped my knees to the TT Aand it 
stopped. But I hit 45mph+ fairly often with no shimmy at all. It is hard to 
ride no hands at low speed, though.

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

2015-04-29 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey, by the way, where do you find your Ricendell bikes? :)

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[RBW] Re: Brief Apology to the Forum

2015-04-29 Thread hsmitham
Jim,

If you keep this up the cyber cops will be knocking at your door! And we know 
how they can get 

~Hugh honest is wasn't me officer Smitham

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[RBW] Broken Crank (Quickbeam)

2015-04-29 Thread Robert F. Harrison
First let me say...no injuries, no accident, didn't even fall over. Having
said that, it was a bit unexpected and I'm terribly grateful it didn't
happen this weekend when I rode the 2015 JBK Haleiwa Metric Century on my
Quickbeam (and had a great time as documented in another email and at:
http://www.statrix.com/2015/04/2015_jbk_ride_report/)

Anyway, I left work today, hopped on my bike and was going to run a few
errands and maybe put in an extra mile or two (and I do mean just a mile or
two - but still fun, eh?)

I was at a light and when stood and pushed off when the light turned green
my foot sort of kept going to the ground. Luckily I didn't fall and
stopped, though it probably looked clumsy. I couldn't figure out how I'd
missed the pedal.

I hadn't. My Sugino XD2-QB double 40/32 175mm and come undone.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157652254822642/

I didn't take an image in place. I got the hell off the road. :-)

I bought the bike in December 2009 and have ridden the heck out of it. I've
also mostly been a lot heavier than I am today (also documented in other
emails around here). I've gone from 275 to 197, mostly since November 2014.
If you do the math, the crank mostly got me at my heaviest.

If you look at the break it seems pretty clear it'd been a while coming.
There are definite differences from one side of the break to the other. As
I said, I'm really just grateful that it didn't happen on the century this
weekend, or in heaving traffic (could have too). It was pretty much a
non-event.

For those who wonder, I have a Hunq that'll be ridden a bit more now. If
I'm annoyed with anything it's that I just, and I mean just, ordered some
new cork grips from Riv and now will have to order a new crank - twice the
shipping charge. If I'd have waited a day or two on the cork grips it could
all be one box. Sigh. Luxury problem.

Anyway I ride the bike almost exclusively in 42x16 mode and figure I'll get
new chainrings and a new single speed cassette - all contingent on taking
the chain off and actually seeing what things look like - I might be okay.

As for the Hunq I just had a new dynohub wheel made for it and when I got
home instead of playing around the with disassembly the QB I put on the new
Eyc light, Top Line rear light, and wired it all up. Tomorrow I have a late
ride 'date' and until now only the QB had that much light going for it. :-)

Aloha,

Bob

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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread David Stein
Ted - Great advice, those are all points that were making me lean towards
38s originally. Plus I didn't think of the brake thing (they are calipers).
I go back on forth on fenders all the time, I hardly ever ride in the rain,
and it hardly ever rains out here, but even then I previously had fenders
with the fatty rumpkins and it was fine, mostly. I think it'll be a
decision b/w the 38 and 42's. Thanks for the offer on the Cypres, I do have
some on my 700c road bike and love them (which is maybe another reason I
kind of want to go wide as possible, to differntiate more b/w the other
road bike).

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:

 DS,
 I have used 32 mm GB Cypres and ~41 mm Soma GR tires on my 650B AHH.
 I will disent from the likely majority opinion and suggest you go with the
 38 mm tires.
 I found the 32 mm tires to be excellent for all the roads around me, and I
 also rode them on local trails and fire roads with no problems. So I am
 inclined to think 32 mm is wide enough. That said they did look a bit lost
 in all that clearance, whereas the larger tires fill up the space nicely,
 and there is no significant down side to going a bit wider.
 I suggest the 38s over the 42s because they will pass the brakes inflated
 more easily than the 42s (assuming your Sam doesn't have cantilever
 brakes). Also if you want fenders come next fall, clearance and coverage
 will be easier with the 38s. When I changed from 32 to 40+ tires I noticed
 differences but they were modest enough that I doubt I would notice much
 difference between 38 and 42. I suspect that 38 is the goldilocks size for
 bikes like ours, particularly for virtually all paved road use.

 If you are in the SF Bay area and we can work out the transfer, you can
 try out my Cypres tires if you like. One has a small casing cut that should
 probably be booted but otherwise they are fine.


 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-7, DS wrote:

 I need the collective wisdom and varied opinions of this group to help me
 decide, or further confuse me, on the 38mm or 42mm Compass tire for my
 lightweight wheelset build for my 650b Sam. My other wheelset has Soma
 Cazaderos. Should I go as wide as I can fit wit the 42mm Babyshoes (are
 there wider that can fit the sam)? Or stay a little narrower with the 38M
 Loup Loups? Or even more narrower with they 32m Cypres? This will be used
 97% of the time on decent to well paved roads.

 Also, if anyone has a lightly used set of any of these for sale let me
 know ;)

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[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
I hope I didn't dissuade someone from trying something new.  The reality is 
the compass tires were more comfortable than the marathons but didn't 
improve the performance enough in my calculus to be worth trading for the 
flat-resistance the marathons offer.  This is a commuter bike and I don't 
think the Barlow Pass is a great choice for me for that application. 
 Perhaps my expectations were too high after my experience with the 
Stampede Pass on my Rom.  My buddy is building up a Hillborne with the 
Barlow Pass XL tires and I'm looking forward to taking that for a spin. 
 Maybe I was just having a bad day or the tires couldn't overcome the 
inherent sluggishness of my heavy wheels, or maybe the Atlantis is simply a 
beast that will never float like my Rom no matter what tire I put on it.   
Many variables.  Also, on a populaire/brevet I rode several weeks ago there 
was a guy on an old Raleigh with the EL Barlow Pass tires and he swore they 
were creme brûlée.  He finished the 200k with the fastest time of the day. 
 He would have been fast on a tricycle, but clearly the tire was working 
for him.

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 6:01:47 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote:

 hmm.

 i have barlow passes on my sam.  i am not sure they make me a whole lot 
 faster.  i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like 
 i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better.  i replaced some 
 marathons as well.

 i think it's like running in hiking boots and then putting sneakers on.  i 
 may not be way faster in sneakers than i am in boots, but it sure is more 
 comfortable to run.

 (just wanted to say this in case someone came across this thread and was 
 somehow dissuaded from trying some new tires, the barlow passes are the 
 single biggest improvement i have made to my bike since i actually bought a 
 riv that fits)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass or Loup Loup Pass for my Sam

2015-04-29 Thread Dan McNamara
The Cypres are a great tire - had them on my Ram. If there was room for a wider 
700c tire I would have gone for it, though. 

I do think that 38 seems like a sweet spot for a go-fast setup and there are a 
few options out there. The Pari-Moto is a great event tire and the Soma B-side 
for those who like a Pasela tread. Plus the Compass Loup Pass. 

Cypres EL are cheap out of Japan at the moment. As are Pari-Motos out of 
Boulder. 

Maybe too many choices?

Dan



 On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 DS,
 I have used 32 mm GB Cypres and ~41 mm Soma GR tires on my 650B AHH.
 I will disent from the likely majority opinion and suggest you go with the 38 
 mm tires.
 I found the 32 mm tires to be excellent for all the roads around me, and I 
 also rode them on local trails and fire roads with no problems. So I am 
 inclined to think 32 mm is wide enough. That said they did look a bit lost in 
 all that clearance, whereas the larger tires fill up the space nicely, and 
 there is no significant down side to going a bit wider.
 I suggest the 38s over the 42s because they will pass the brakes inflated 
 more easily than the 42s (assuming your Sam doesn't have cantilever brakes). 
 Also if you want fenders come next fall, clearance and coverage will be 
 easier with the 38s. When I changed from 32 to 40+ tires I noticed 
 differences but they were modest enough that I doubt I would notice much 
 difference between 38 and 42. I suspect that 38 is the goldilocks size for 
 bikes like ours, particularly for virtually all paved road use.
 
 If you are in the SF Bay area and we can work out the transfer, you can try 
 out my Cypres tires if you like. One has a small casing cut that should 
 probably be booted but otherwise they are fine.
 
 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:11:45 AM UTC-7, DS wrote:
 I need the collective wisdom and varied opinions of this group to help me 
 decide, or further confuse me, on the 38mm or 42mm Compass tire for my 
 lightweight wheelset build for my 650b Sam. My other wheelset has Soma 
 Cazaderos. Should I go as wide as I can fit wit the 42mm Babyshoes (are 
 there wider that can fit the sam)? Or stay a little narrower with the 38M 
 Loup Loups? Or even more narrower with they 32m Cypres? This will be used 
 97% of the time on decent to well paved roads.
 
 Also, if anyone has a lightly used set of any of these for sale let me know 
 ;)
 
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[RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread 'Steve D.' via RBW Owners Bunch


A few years ago a friend bought a brand spanking new LaPierre carbon fiber 
frame and fitted his parts from his Serotta onto it, 54T chain ring and 
all. The first day out, the top tube cracked. After he got the frame 
replaced from the shop he bought it, we went for a ride on the 
Burke-Gilman. Not to brag, but he had a hard time keeping up on that 54T; 
not that I'm all that fast on my Atlantis (average speed around 16 - 18 
mph). 

He bought the bike after watching the Tour de France on TV, which he does 
every year. I don't know, I guess after 65 years, it never sank in that 
there's a big difference between romance and reality. 

Steve
Seattle

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