Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Ron Mc
time has proved the opposite true.  Photobucket used to be 2GB free, you 
pay for more and you pay for more bandwidth.  Now 20 GB and unlimited 
bandwidth is free.  

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-5, tarik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, 
 and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating 
 even less than recently honestly...

 I would caution that relying  on free storage for archiving posts and 
 photos is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will 
 change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of 
 their free services before and will again.   Trolling through MTBR and 
 other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible 
 attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active 
 services. 

 I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so 
 astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has 
 become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and 
 David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a 
 million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a 
 few GB.  So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well 
 within a year. 

 later

 Tarik




 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 
 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large 
 documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to 
 the bike lists. 

 I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB 
 messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, 
 searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to 
 delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the 
 most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the 
 @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. 

 I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because 
 it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With 
 Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore 
 the rest.

 I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but 
 that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. 

 Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

 - David G in San Diego


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 And it's all in your email?

 You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and 
 Photos (not email attachments) are using

 http://account.google.com



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see 
 images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something 
 sounds good.
 I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, 
 but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with).

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com



 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went 
 from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders)  which 
 really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think 
 attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the 
 level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender 
 off list,   many many  people seem to use the google group  interface. 

  So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely 
 lost cause.  Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used 
 to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in 
 my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I 
 would pretend to speak for anyone else. 


 Later

 Tarik


  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the 
 Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I 
 dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at  ~100MB each, CR was at 
 something like 300 MB. Again,  for less than a month, that is half a GB of 
 email traffic.  Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete 
 travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement 
 anymore, so the more the merrier I guess. 

 I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy 
 mailbox searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, 
 but again we are looking at 1GB of email a year EACH from ibob and RBW. 
 Which is not text. That is 

[RBW] Re: DIY (cheap) Canvas Saddlebag

2015-05-06 Thread islaysteve
Thanks folks.  It's nowhere near as nice or functional as Sackville, Carradice, 
etc, but as I said, anticipated frequency of use does not justify a costlier 
bag for me.  Also, I enjoy projects like this.  I'm not done messing with it, I 
may change the location of the mounting straps.  Also thought about 
waterproofing, either with wax, Scotchguard or ??
Steve

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[RBW] Re: Any doing Oregon Outback?

2015-05-06 Thread Mark Reimer
I'm going as well. Riding from Seattle a few days before, taking the train 
to Klamath, and riding the Oregon Outback in 3 days on my Atlantis. Then 
hopefully riding back to Portland, though I've got a ride lined up for me 
and my buddies in case we're toast. Should be a good time!

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:39:43 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:

 Yes - a couple folks from Seattle planning to make the ride.  We are 
 taking the Amtrak to Klamath Falls.  I'll be on a Hunqapillar.  Not sure 
 about post-ride quite yet, but planning on taking a 4-6 day ride and 
 diverging from the official course around Prineville to get more time on 
 the Deschutes river trails.  I believe there may be more folks from 
 Portland vs. Seattle ride contingent, but haven't heard the final verdict 
 yet.  Definitely no racing here...

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, WA

 On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Anyone doing it this year?

 Anyone traveling from Portland?

 Anyone taking the train (or renting a car)?

 Any plans to get back to Portland post ride?

 Let's talk logistics (not tire choices) :)



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Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread KC
I think the other issue with attaching large photos is many people are 
getting emails on their phones and have bandwidth limits.  My own is 
unlimited so generally not a problem, but when we were on the road 
March/April my husband and I relied on our phones as hotspots for our 
computers and we are limited with that.  And, unless it has changed, I 
think when I am using the phone as a hotspot the usage on the phone counts 
towards the limit too, not just what I use for my computer.  With email 
syncing all the time on both, I am sometimes unintentionally doubling my 
usage.  

I love seeing the photos in the body because it is more convenient, but 
know it is better for me to wait until I am on an unlimited use connection 
to see it, so a link works better as it gives me control.  The photos I 
take on my phone are pretty high resolution on purpose because my husband's 
hobby is photography and he wants to start with good pics.  I haven't 
figured out yet how to email a pic from my phone in reduced resolution so I 
don't know how to nicely add a pic if I'm posting from my phone (I may 
have inadvertently added a high res one before figuring that out - sorry).  
When I've posted from my computer, I started just opening the photo on my 
computer and snipping it to then copy it in.  I think the resulting photo 
is small enough to not cause a problem.

(We started off the trip by sharing the photos we'd each taken during the 
day by emailing them to each other.  It didn't take me long to figure out 
my 3GB monthly hotspot allowance would be eaten up in no time.  One email 
from my phone to my husband (sitting across the room from me) racked up 
usage sending to him and then syncing to my computer to my sent folder and 
then used up the same on his allowance.  Swapping USB drives was a much 
better idea. although not nearly as convenient)  


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Williamson
The green steel riser stem is a Salsa I bought in 1988 or so, for my first 
mountain bike. I painted it Shamrock Green with a spraycan from the auto 
parts store. 
Ties the whole bike together. ;^)

Philip
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[RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Williamson
This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light 
wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64!
I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, but 
couldn't rationalize it with logic.

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Best commute?

2015-05-06 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tom: I hope there's at least a good coffee shop near the office, so as to 
not entirely displace your far-too-nice-to-ever-give-up commute when you 
retire... just saying...

Bobby


On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:

 Tom, 
 You commute through some scenic and peaceful areas.  Thanks for sharing 
 the lovely photos.  I imagine your commute is a cathartic way to start and 
 end the work day.  Your office looks nice, too. 
 -Erl 

 On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 9:43:34 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: 
  Different commutes suit different riders, obviously, but as I was riding 
 my Hilsen to work this morning, I thought to myself that for me, a commute 
 can’t get much better than mine.  It’s not very long (a little over five 
 miles one way), 
   but it’s beautiful:  mostly trails or parks, several bridges, a segment 
 of the east Coast Greenway along the Brandywine Creek, a couple of lovely 
 footbridges, some wild Delaware Blue Rock cliffs, a rose garden, and even a 
 little history thrown in.  This quick 
   set shows a few spots along the way, but doesn’t begin to capture all 
 of the ways mine is a great commute.  
  
  

  
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157652363838382/ 
  

  
  Who else wants to nominate his or her commute as “the best” – at least 
 for you? 
  
  
  
  
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[RBW] Best commute?

2015-05-06 Thread BenG
Tom, your vida con velo consistently makes me smile.  Thanks for kicking this 
off and showing your lovely highlights. I will ride a 9-miler tomorrow before 
daylight, and 26 miles home by way of a tool shop. Thinking picture will only 
increase the fun.
Ben

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[RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

2015-05-06 Thread Liesl
I'm intrigued!  Can anyone compare how's the clearance for fenders with Big 
Ben v. Thunder Burts?  And thoughts about the TB's as a commuter tire, 
summer and winter both?  The reduction in weight is of great interest.  I 
run 26 BB's on the wee but long custom and *love* the ride (and that I can 
get them in brown).  However, I'm just not that big and not that young so 
when the bike is set up with front and rear racks and bags, it's hard for 
me to carry it up and down the stairs to the basement where the little 
steed beds down for the night in fluffy fresh hay.  Losing 2 pounds in 
tires would be appreciated!  Also note that I am not flat-prone (which of 
course will change immediately now that I put it in writing).

RCW

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Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

2015-05-06 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I've actually tried to rationalize getting a third Quickbeam. 
Unsuccessfully so far, but gave it a good shot! 
One townie, one monstercross, one light roadie. 
the perfect trifecta of singlespeed goodness!


On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

 When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated. 

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 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Philip 
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 Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam. 

 This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light 
 wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64! 
 I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, 
 but couldn't rationalize it with logic. 

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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

2015-05-06 Thread Joe Bernard
It's pretty hard to find a post shorter than 250mm these days, but you'll 
be fine cutting off an inch as long as its reasonably buried in the 
seattube. I wouldn't do it if you're at the maximum mark, but you have the 
opposite problem. 

Conversely, if you want to try a pre-cut Kalloy for cheap, I have the one 
that came on my ANT Roadster a few months ago. My bike shows barely a 
fistful of post, so I presume Mike Flanigan sawed off an inch just to drop 
a little weight. One plus with this is that he put a little bevel around 
the bottom to make it easier to slide into the tube..a straight-cut is a 
little harder to slip in there. $20 shipped if you want to give it a whirl, 
email or text 415-786-4623 for pics. Oh, I replaced it with a V-O someone 
was selling here just 'cause I like the way it looks :)

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, John wrote:

 I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks 
 like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the 
 seat post by about 3/4 - 1.

 My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle 
 to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more 
 space, but this is the smallest concern at this point.

 Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be 
 slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are 
 stopped by the junction of the seat  top tubes.

 It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or 
 B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. 

 Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try 
 finding something shorter? 

 Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings 
 would be very welcome.

 Thanks in advance,

 John   


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[RBW] OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread WETH
Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it 
off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why?
Long version: really it is too long:
Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I 
felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost 
off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. 
 Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit 
the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and 
used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more.  A mile later, the 
crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by previous repair.  This happened 
twice more before I was able to make it to work.  Worst case scenario would 
have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been 
fine.  I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks 
in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened 
the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home.

Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again.  
This time I had the tool and tightened it.

About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both 
crank arms to clean and inspect.

Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface?  
Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on 
the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 
10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple 
(ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS))

Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
curiosity:
1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench?  
2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer 
strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter 
in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose?

Thanks,
Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
Houston 
PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I did 
have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with 
the cycling gods.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance

2015-05-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks Tim

The Ostrich DLX looks appealing, especially at the Alex's price.  If you 
DIY things, consider Lone Peak hardware.  My F20 has 10mm tubing.  My 
Ortliebs have hooks that are too big, and a hook spacer that makes them too 
small.  Lone Peaks sells 10mm latching hook hardware that should fit 
perfecto right off the bat.  

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:27:40 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Funny, I was just thinking the same thing!  I love the F20 for style and 
 function, but most front panniers are meant to be mounted higher and thus 
 are too tall for the very low riders.

 I use an old pair of Mountainsmith front panniers on the F20 rack on my 
 girlfriend's San Marcos.  They hang a couple inches off the bottom of the 
 frame, but are still at least 6 inches off the ground.  Good enough for me.

 For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers 
 http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made 
 for this rack.  And they're pretty darned handsome as well.

 I've considered buying mil surplus messenger style bags and adding Ortlieb 
 hardware.

 Tim

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Well, I've pursued this project with some success.  The measurement I 
 asked for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze 
 ons.  Turns out I did need them. 

 Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike.  It will 
 mainly be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed.  

 But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers.  So, 
 what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack?  I have 
 front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well 
 because they are too tall.  I have some old Jandd front panniers that I 
 might get to work, but they also are on the tall side.  I have Sackville 
 HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best.  

 The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm 
 going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at 
 Ruthworks and get custom bags.  Is there another model of pannier that is 
 made for the Nitto F20?  Link to the rack below.  Each removable lowrider 
 is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You have a Nitto F20.  It's the Front Campee model with the removable 
 pannier lowriders:

 F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html

 It's the model for 26 wheels.  Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one.  
 Yours is the F20.  

 Could you please take a measurement?  Down at the bottom, the lowest 
 mounting hole has the spacer built in.  Up where the struts attach, there's 
 an oval slot.  I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting 
 hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting 
 hole to the top of the slot.  If you own that rack and can take that 
 measurement for me, I will be super grateful.  I need to check that 
 distance before I shell out for a $280 rack.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

2015-05-06 Thread Michael Hechmer
It is common and OK to cut off the unneeded part of a seat post.  I have 
done it, or you could take it to a bike shop with a good mechanic and have 
them do it. Lots of modern bikes require extremely long seatposts and the 
excess routinely gets cut off.   A couple of years ago I bought a beautiful 
used Saluki and was surprised to find that the classic Suntour Superbe 
seatpost had been cut pretty near the minimum of what I needed.

Michael

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:24:01 PM UTC-4, John wrote:

 I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks 
 like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the 
 seat post by about 3/4 - 1.

 My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle 
 to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more 
 space, but this is the smallest concern at this point.

 Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be 
 slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are 
 stopped by the junction of the seat  top tubes.

 It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or 
 B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. 

 Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try 
 finding something shorter? 

 Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings 
 would be very welcome.

 Thanks in advance,

 John   


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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread Joe Bernard
My completely uneducated first guess is you've gradually worn off the edges 
of the spline/crank interface, which leaves the crankarm wobbling around 
until you jam it on there a little tighter, then it wears some more, then 
you jam it on again. So the bolt isn't backing off, it's just losing 
friction against the thing it was pushing on. 

PS. I hate Octalink/ISIS. It's a bunch of itty bitty surfaces which 
replaced four perfectly good square ones. Why? 

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 4:26:25 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:

 Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
 took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
 Long version: really it is too long: 
 Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, 
 I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was 
 almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not 
 fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large 
 enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand 
 tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit 
 more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by 
 previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to make it to 
 work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and 
 coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
 wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
 had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
 trouble free ride home. 

 Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. 
  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 

 About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
 both crank arms to clean and inspect. 

 Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
 interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
 no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
 this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
 Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 

 Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
 curiosity: 
 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 
   
 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
 fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
 it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 

 Thanks, 
 Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
 Houston 
 PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I 
 did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
 favor with the cycling gods. 


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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread Ron Mc
You can use blue loctite in the crank bolts

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:26:25 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
 took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
 Long version: really it is too long: 
 Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, 
 I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was 
 almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not 
 fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large 
 enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand 
 tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit 
 more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by 
 previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to make it to 
 work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and 
 coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
 wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
 had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
 trouble free ride home. 

 Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. 
  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 

 About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
 both crank arms to clean and inspect. 

 Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
 interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
 no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
 this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
 Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 

 Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
 curiosity: 
 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 
   
 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
 fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
 it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 

 Thanks, 
 Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
 Houston 
 PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I 
 did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
 favor with the cycling gods. 


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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread David Banzer
IME, once a crank arm starts doing what you described, it's time to get a 
new crank arm.
You can try different options for a fix, but it'll be a short fix at best.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:26:25 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:

 Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
 took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
 Long version: really it is too long: 
 Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, 
 I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was 
 almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not 
 fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large 
 enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand 
 tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit 
 more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by 
 previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to make it to 
 work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and 
 coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
 wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
 had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
 trouble free ride home. 

 Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. 
  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 

 About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
 both crank arms to clean and inspect. 

 Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
 interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
 no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
 this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
 Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 

 Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
 curiosity: 
 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 
   
 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
 fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
 it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 

 Thanks, 
 Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
 Houston 
 PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I 
 did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
 favor with the cycling gods. 


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[RBW] Re: V.O. fixed wheelset?

2015-05-06 Thread Corwin
+1 for Rich's wheels. He built me a free/free rear wheel for my Quickbeam 
using a green Phil hub and a green A23 rim. Still rock solid.

Corwin

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 5:14:23 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 I'd give Rich a call.  Spent a little more to get a Phil hub built up for 
 the QB and it's been amazingly solid.  Threw it on the truing stand this 
 winter and it was still spot on and rounder than round.  

 http://www.handsonwheels.com/

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com




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[RBW] Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

2015-05-06 Thread John
I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks like 
I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the seat 
post by about 3/4 - 1.

My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle 
to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more 
space, but this is the smallest concern at this point.

Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be 
slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are 
stopped by the junction of the seat  top tubes.

It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or 
B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. 

Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try 
finding something shorter? 

Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings 
would be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

John   

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[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy

2015-05-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
It is absolutely OK to cut a seatpost.  It damages your resale value and 
you need to be careful since now the min insertion line is meaningless if 
you raise it a bunch, but other than those things, go for it.  

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, John wrote:

 I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks 
 like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the 
 seat post by about 3/4 - 1.

 My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle 
 to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more 
 space, but this is the smallest concern at this point.

 Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be 
 slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are 
 stopped by the junction of the seat  top tubes.

 It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or 
 B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. 

 Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try 
 finding something shorter? 

 Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings 
 would be very welcome.

 Thanks in advance,

 John   


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[RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

2015-05-06 Thread Will
Maybe a less expensive solution will work, particularly if your dynamo 
setup can support a USB cable. I got a Cygo-lite from Riv a couple months 
back. It is inexpensive, fits on bars, is easily swiveled around while 
riding, and is fairly bright. 

Yes, you can point it into turns with a spare hand if you need to.  

That's probably not something you need to do often, but you can do it. It 
charges via USB cable so you have light available for evenings if you 
charged during day riding. It's very small and very light. 

It's also a great camping light. 

Will

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 3:32:01 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 In ten days I'll be heading out west for a ten day tour in Oregon. There 
 will be some long days where we'll be riding into the night, and that's got 
 me thinking about how I have my lights mounted. 

 I'm using an Edelux II light with a SONdelux hub. The light is mounted to 
 the light mount on a Nitto Campee front rack. It is perfect when riding in 
 the dark on straight roads or moderate curves. It is not so great when you 
 are on trails or tight fast corners, like switch backs when coming down the 
 mountains. Like all bike-mounted lights, the beam is directed forward, 
 rather than into the turn. This has given me a few hair-raising moments 
 when I can't see what's around the bend. 

 Mounting your light to your helmet is an obvious alternative, so you are 
 lighting whatever you are looking at. However, that's very awkward with a 
 dynamo.

 For those who ride in the mountains or on twisty roads, what do you do? 
 Maybe a dynamo plus a head/helmet light when required? 


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[RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance

2015-05-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Well, I've pursued this project with some success.  The measurement I asked 
for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze ons. 
 Turns out I did need them. 

Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike.  It will mainly 
be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed.  

But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers.  So, 
what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack?  I have 
front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well 
because they are too tall.  I have some old Jandd front panniers that I 
might get to work, but they also are on the tall side.  I have Sackville 
HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best.  

The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm 
going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at 
Ruthworks and get custom bags.  Is there another model of pannier that is 
made for the Nitto F20?  Link to the rack below.  Each removable lowrider 
is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You have a Nitto F20.  It's the Front Campee model with the removable 
 pannier lowriders:

 F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html

 It's the model for 26 wheels.  Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one. 
  Yours is the F20.  

 Could you please take a measurement?  Down at the bottom, the lowest 
 mounting hole has the spacer built in.  Up where the struts attach, there's 
 an oval slot.  I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting 
 hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting 
 hole to the top of the slot.  If you own that rack and can take that 
 measurement for me, I will be super grateful.  I need to check that 
 distance before I shell out for a $280 rack.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance

2015-05-06 Thread Tim Gavin



 For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers
 http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made
 for this rack.  And they're pretty darned handsome as well.


For a US source for Ostrich, Soma and VO just recently started carrying
their handlebar and saddle bags, so they may be able to special order you
these panniers.

And Angry Catfish in Minneapolis has them.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance

2015-05-06 Thread Tim Gavin
Or Bike Touring News
http://store.biketouringnews.com/ostrich-canvas-panniers/

At the US price, you could order the panniers AND the rack from Alex's in
Japan.  Shipping may take longer...

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com
wrote:



 For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers
 http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made
 for this rack.  And they're pretty darned handsome as well.


 For a US source for Ostrich, Soma and VO just recently started carrying
 their handlebar and saddle bags, so they may be able to special order you
 these panniers.

 And Angry Catfish in Minneapolis has them.

 Tim


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[RBW] FS: Spring Cleaning - Round 2. Parts Bags - Odds Ends.

2015-05-06 Thread David Banzer
With the anticipation of a tiny new member of the household in the upcoming 
months, I've been kindly asked to clear out unnecessary bike bits and bags 
that have been piling up...

So, Round 2 of Spring Cleaning!
Same sort of deal that I've done in the past - items are listed on my 
webstore: treetop.bigcartel.com
Shipping is a flat $6 per order, shipped USPS Priority Mail so items will 
arrive quickly.
I also have other bags there that aren't in the following list, and Willow 
chainrings.
Please go through the links for photos and info.
Contact me offlist if you can if you have any questions.
Payment can be through Paypal or a credit/debit card (without needing to 
use Paypal).
Local pickup is fine, just order through the store and I'll refund the 
shipping charge.

Thanks,
David
Chicago

Cygolite 310 Light - *$35* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/cygolite-streak-310-light

Tall Rando Bag - roughly the same size as an Acorn Tall Rando bag, red 
waxed canvas, tan leather - *$175 *- 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/tall-rando-bag-red-waxed-canvas

Suntour XCE Derailleur Set - front and rear - *$15* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/suntour-xce-derailleur-set

Level Components Fixed Gear Hub - w/ 16t  17t cogs, 36h, 135mm - *$50* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/level-components-fixed-gear-hub

Dia Compe XCE Brake Levers - *$10* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/dia-compe-xce-brake-levers

1 Headset Mount Spring Bell - *$8* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/headset-mount-spring-bell

BM 4D Lite Dynamo Taillight - *$15* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/busch-muller-4d-lite-dynamo-taillight

Zefal Solibloc Frame Pump - black - *$10* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/zefal-solibloc-pump

Jansport Backpack - not bike-specific but fits in a basket just fine - dark 
blue with brown leather - *$20* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/jansport-backpack-dark-blue-brown-leather

Bar Bag/Wedge Set - 2 bags, deluxe-y, leather liners - *$75* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/front-bar-bag-saddle-wedge-combo-black-w-leather-liner

Boxy Front Bag/Saddlebag - new design for me, 12x8x8, fits on a front rack 
or saddlebag support/saddle - *$90* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/boxy-front-bag-saddlebag

Small Saddlebag Test Bag - prototype of a new design - *$25* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/small-saddlebag-prototype-test-bag

Medium Saddle Wedge - YELLOW (1 available) OR RED (5 available) - *$25* - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/medium-saddle-wedge-waxed-canvas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance

2015-05-06 Thread Tim Gavin
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing!  I love the F20 for style and
function, but most front panniers are meant to be mounted higher and thus
are too tall for the very low riders.

I use an old pair of Mountainsmith front panniers on the F20 rack on my
girlfriend's San Marcos.  They hang a couple inches off the bottom of the
frame, but are still at least 6 inches off the ground.  Good enough for me.

For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers
http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made for
this rack.  And they're pretty darned handsome as well.

I've considered buying mil surplus messenger style bags and adding Ortlieb
hardware.

Tim

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I've pursued this project with some success.  The measurement I
 asked for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze
 ons.  Turns out I did need them.

 Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike.  It will
 mainly be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed.

 But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers.  So,
 what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack?  I have
 front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well
 because they are too tall.  I have some old Jandd front panniers that I
 might get to work, but they also are on the tall side.  I have Sackville
 HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best.

 The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm
 going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at
 Ruthworks and get custom bags.  Is there another model of pannier that is
 made for the Nitto F20?  Link to the rack below.  Each removable lowrider
 is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You have a Nitto F20.  It's the Front Campee model with the removable
 pannier lowriders:

 F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html

 It's the model for 26 wheels.  Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one.
 Yours is the F20.

 Could you please take a measurement?  Down at the bottom, the lowest
 mounting hole has the spacer built in.  Up where the struts attach, there's
 an oval slot.  I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting
 hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting
 hole to the top of the slot.  If you own that rack and can take that
 measurement for me, I will be super grateful.  I need to check that
 distance before I shell out for a $280 rack.

 Bill Lindsay
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[RBW] Re: FS/ WTT nitto/ schwalbe/ sugino

2015-05-06 Thread dougP
Michael:

I've sent you a couple of private messages on your post but have not heard 
anything.  Are you not receiving PMs on google?  I'm specifically 
interested in the Mondial tires.  Send an e-mail to dougpn...@cox.net.  
Thanks.

dougP

On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 11:30:51 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 hey group! I came across some lesser used stuff and wanted to post to 
 the list.Prices include shipping 
 1) Nitto big back rack (large) $150 
 2) nitto noodle handlebars w/ shimano aero levers.   48cm wide/ heat 
 treated.  Some tape residue $60 
 3) schwalbe mondial tires,  700x 47 Barely used,  maybe 200 miles.   
 $40/pair 
 4) Schwalbe Smart sam, 29x 2.1,  barely used $30/pair 
 5) Schwalbe marathon XR 700x 50,   Used some but lots of life $40/pair 
 6) Schwalbe Duremes 700x50 barely used   $40/ pair 


 Also,  i have 2 Sugino 46T, 110 bcd chainrings that id like to trade for 2 
 34T 110bcd chainrings. 
 Preference given to bay area local pickup, Deals always made for multiple 
 items. Contact off list please and thanks!-Mike

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Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Bronson
I thought you could still look at old posts through the web interface?
 Or are these iBob posts that didn't come from Google Groups?

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 0.03
 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large documents
 to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to the bike
 lists.

 I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB
 messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question,
 searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to
 delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the
 most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the
 @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages.

 I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because it
 entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With
 Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore
 the rest.

 I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but that
 was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try.

 Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

 - David G in San Diego


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 And it's all in your email?

 You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and
 Photos (not email attachments) are using

 http://account.google.com



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson
 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images
 in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good.
 I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but
 there's a lot fewer messages to deal with).

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com



 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went from
 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders)  which really is
 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think attaching
 photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level of
 bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off list,
 many many  people seem to use the google group  interface.

  So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely
 lost cause.  Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used
 to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in
 my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I
 would pretend to speak for anyone else.


 Later

 Tarik


  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the
 Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I
 dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at  ~100MB each, CR was at
 something like 300 MB. Again,  for less than a month, that is half a GB of
 email traffic.  Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete
 travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement
 anymore, so the more the merrier I guess.

 I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy mailbox
 searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, but again
 we are looking at 1GB of email a year EACH from ibob and RBW. Which is not
 text. That is images.  I don't download images on my phone unless I want
 them, but it seems like we are way beyond a tipping point.

 So I think the cat is out of the bag and we won't go back the way it was
 and it will only get worse, so I think whatever plan I used to have is
 invalid, carry on into the future you image attaching peoples.

 Later

 Tarik





 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:


 I use Gmail and subscribe to several email lists including iBOB and RBW
 (routing the messages directly to All Mail so my Inbox remains uncluttered).
 Recently I've been getting an alert from Gmail saying I am almost at my 15
 GB limit for free storage. I would rather not pay Google a monthly fee for
 the luxury of additional storage. Searching my Gmail messages using the term
 larger:5m  I found many bike list emails, often of the For Sale variety,
 with large photo attachments. I humbly request that list members consider
 uploading their photos to one of the many free sites like Flickr or Picasa
 and providing a link, rather than attaching large photos directly to emails.

 If anybody has other suggestions, I'm all ears. I realize there is the
 option to browse messages on the Google Groups website but until now I've
 found it convenient to have the messages in my Gmail 

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Jim -- I'll give it a look.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I recommend Flickr/Yahoo as opposed to Picasa/Google because Flickr
 gives you a free terabyte of storage.

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks; I think I understand now what the discussion is about. I'll
  investigate Picassa or the other one, or see if I can figure out how to
 use
  what I think is the storage allotted to me with my website for posting
  photos.
 
  My question was probably dumb enough that I may have sounded sarcastic or
  facetious, but I really wasn't clear whether Jim meant that sort of
  attachment or copying the photo directly into the body of the email, as
 I've
  also done on occasion.
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
  david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi Patrick,
 
  Sharing a photo of Beryl Burton, OBE, is undeniably GOOD, but yes, you
  have attached the photo to an email that was sent to me and thousands of
  other people. The image you attached is only 0.052 megabytes, so no
 biggie.
  It is the For Sale and other posts that include multiple megabytes of
 photo
  attachments which impact storage space.
 
  - David G in San Diego
 
 
  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Y'all help out a clueless photo app/attachment/doohickey user.
 
  First, I bailed on Picassa a couple of years ago after they (IMEO)
 f*
  it up by making it harder to use and requiring something or other from
 me
  that I now forget and that I didn't want to give them. (I also want to
 bail
  on Google, but that's harder to do. Gawdarn feature creep!)
 
  Here's my question:
 
  Is hooking photos to the email in the way Jim described below, as with
 my
  recent FS posts, instead of pasting the photo directly into the body
 of the
  email, GOOD or BAD?
 
  Patrick we got no links Moore, with beetled brow furrowed in
  concentrated exasperation. (I have attache a photo using this method to
  illustrate my question.)
 
 
  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
  cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  [SNIPPO]
 
  However, as we are having more technical discussions, often members are
  supplying specific phone-snapped images which provide an excellent
 answer to
  the question.  And it's these which deserve to be in threads,
 enhancing the
  discussions.
 
  With that in mind, here's how you do it.  Illustrated with images
 
  Step One - when you post or reply to a post, you should see a little
  skuemorphic paper clip doohickey.  To the right of that will be the
 magic
  words Attach a File
 
  Click on that.
 
  Step Two - you should get an upload window, and you can drag and drop
  (with certain...well, most... browsers) and an option to select from
 your
  computer.
 
  Now, some of that functionality won't necessarily work from iOS or
  Android OS's.  So, there's that.  Maybe someone can share an image to
 this
  thread from their iPhone, iPad or Android device.
 
 
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[RBW] Cardiff and Ruthworks bags have been sold. [Re: FS: 2 canvas seat bags, fit standard saddles]

2015-05-06 Thread Patrick Moore


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[RBW] Re: 51cm Sam Hillborne build: advice?

2015-05-06 Thread Zach Duval
I sprung for the VO Zeppelins, as I really liked the 45s I had on my 
Raleigh Portage (also 650B, with cantis) and prefer the aluminum to 
plastic. If I can't make them work I'll see about swapping with the Portage 
(a sweet bike, btw). I'm hoping to start the build as soon as a couple more 
parts roll into the shop.

Thanks everyone for the advice so far!

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Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Williamson
I took Tarik's point to be about longevity and reliablity, rather than 
cost. 
The web is ephemeral. If Flickr changes their file structure, or is the 
target of a sustained DOS attack, or Yahoo sells it off, my blog will lose 
90% of its pictures. Future generations reading the BOB archives would 
never know what my Quickbeam looks like!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 time has proved the opposite true.  Photobucket used to be 2GB free, you 
 pay for more and you pay for more bandwidth.  Now 20 GB and unlimited 
 bandwidth is free.  

 On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-5, tarik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, 
 and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating 
 even less than recently honestly...

 I would caution that relying  on free storage for archiving posts and 
 photos is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will 
 change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of 
 their free services before and will again.   Trolling through MTBR and 
 other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible 
 attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active 
 services. 

 I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so 
 astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has 
 become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and 
 David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a 
 million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a 
 few GB.  So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well 
 within a year. 

 later

 Tarik




 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 
 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large 
 documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to 
 the bike lists. 

 I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB 
 messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, 
 searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to 
 delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the 
 most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the 
 @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. 

 I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much 
 because it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth 
 reading. With Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest 
 me, and ignore the rest.

 I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but 
 that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. 

 Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

 - David G in San Diego


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 And it's all in your email?

 You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and 
 Photos (not email attachments) are using

 http://account.google.com



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson 
 philip.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see 
 images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something 
 sounds good.
 I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, 
 but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with).

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com



 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went 
 from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders)  which 
 really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think 
 attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the 
 level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender 
 off list,   many many  people seem to use the google group  interface. 

  So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a 
 completely lost cause.  Not sure there is a good solution for those of us 
 who are used to old email list style management. The google group 
 interface 
 is awful in my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the 
 lists, but I would pretend to speak for anyone else. 


 Later

 Tarik


  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the 
 Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I 
 dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at  ~100MB each, CR was at 
 something like 300 MB. Again,  for less than a month, that is half a GB of 
 email traffic.  Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Broken Crank (Quickbeam)

2015-05-06 Thread Ron Mc
thanks Bob, I was curious.  While that is a high stress area, seems like 
there has to be something in the surface or microstructure producing a 
stress riser to get such a well-defined and straight crack origin.  

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:26:16 AM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote:


 On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Was the crack coincident with a stamped marking in the crank arm?  


 I checked and no, there's no stamped marking on that part of the crank. 
 Just one of those things. :-)


 Aloha,

 Bob


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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Bronson
I recommend Flickr/Yahoo as opposed to Picasa/Google because Flickr
gives you a free terabyte of storage.

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks; I think I understand now what the discussion is about. I'll
 investigate Picassa or the other one, or see if I can figure out how to use
 what I think is the storage allotted to me with my website for posting
 photos.

 My question was probably dumb enough that I may have sounded sarcastic or
 facetious, but I really wasn't clear whether Jim meant that sort of
 attachment or copying the photo directly into the body of the email, as I've
 also done on occasion.



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Patrick,

 Sharing a photo of Beryl Burton, OBE, is undeniably GOOD, but yes, you
 have attached the photo to an email that was sent to me and thousands of
 other people. The image you attached is only 0.052 megabytes, so no biggie.
 It is the For Sale and other posts that include multiple megabytes of photo
 attachments which impact storage space.

 - David G in San Diego


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Y'all help out a clueless photo app/attachment/doohickey user.

 First, I bailed on Picassa a couple of years ago after they (IMEO) f*
 it up by making it harder to use and requiring something or other from me
 that I now forget and that I didn't want to give them. (I also want to bail
 on Google, but that's harder to do. Gawdarn feature creep!)

 Here's my question:

 Is hooking photos to the email in the way Jim described below, as with my
 recent FS posts, instead of pasting the photo directly into the body of the
 email, GOOD or BAD?

 Patrick we got no links Moore, with beetled brow furrowed in
 concentrated exasperation. (I have attache a photo using this method to
 illustrate my question.)


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 [SNIPPO]

 However, as we are having more technical discussions, often members are
 supplying specific phone-snapped images which provide an excellent answer to
 the question.  And it's these which deserve to be in threads, enhancing the
 discussions.

 With that in mind, here's how you do it.  Illustrated with images

 Step One - when you post or reply to a post, you should see a little
 skuemorphic paper clip doohickey.  To the right of that will be the magic
 words Attach a File

 Click on that.

 Step Two - you should get an upload window, and you can drag and drop
 (with certain...well, most... browsers) and an option to select from your
 computer.

 Now, some of that functionality won't necessarily work from iOS or
 Android OS's.  So, there's that.  Maybe someone can share an image to this
 thread from their iPhone, iPad or Android device.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Broken Crank (Quickbeam)

2015-05-06 Thread Robert F. Harrison
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was the crack coincident with a stamped marking in the crank arm?


I checked and no, there's no stamped marking on that part of the crank.
Just one of those things. :-)


Aloha,

Bob


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Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Bronson
Google has never reduced the amount of free storage available to their
end users.  They know that people would jump to their competitors in a
heartbeat.  There's a million free webmail services these days.

Where they tend to roll things back is where they have monopoly power
over things.  Read about the EU lawsuit against Google, it's pretty
interesting.

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:25 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, and
 we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating even
 less than recently honestly...

 I would caution that relying  on free storage for archiving posts and photos
 is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will change again
 one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of their free
 services before and will again.   Trolling through MTBR and other bike fora
 for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible attached images,
 even though they are directly uploaded to still active services.

 I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so
 astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has
 become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and
 David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a
 million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a few
 GB.  So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well within a
 year.

 later

 Tarik




 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and
 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large
 documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to
 the bike lists.

 I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB
 messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question,
 searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to
 delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the
 most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the
 @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages.

 I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because
 it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With
 Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore
 the rest.

 I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but
 that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try.

 Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

 - David G in San Diego


 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 And it's all in your email?

 You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and
 Photos (not email attachments) are using

 http://account.google.com



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson
 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images
 in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good.
 I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but
 there's a lot fewer messages to deal with).

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com



 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went
 from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders)  which
 really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think
 attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level
 of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off
 list,   many many  people seem to use the google group  interface.

  So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely
 lost cause.  Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used
 to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in
 my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I
 would pretend to speak for anyone else.


 Later

 Tarik


  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the
 Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I
 dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at  ~100MB each, CR was at
 something like 300 MB. Again,  for less than a month, that is half a GB of
 email traffic.  Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete
 travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement
 anymore, so the more the merrier I guess.

 I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy mailbox
 searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, but again
 we 

[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread islaysteve
Erl, I'm not sure what you have available in your shop at home, but I have most 
tools and items; work stand, torque wrench, etc etc,  you are welcome to come 
over and use them anytime.  Cheers,
Steve

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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread WETH
Ron, Joe, David and Steve,
Thanks so much for your thoughts.  I will try some loctite, while I wait for 
the new crankset and BB to arrive.  Steve, I might be in touch when I install 
the new components.
Much thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam

2015-05-06 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net
Happy conclusion:  My friend did purchase a new Sam complete bike from 
Rivendell, although after discussion with them it was decided he needed a 
55 cm. It  arrived today and I helped him get it ready to ride
.https://www.flickr.com/photos/40696121@N00/17209631409/lightbox/


On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:54:26 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my Sam 
 for the weekend along with a copy of Just Ride. When I picked it up this 
 afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the book 
 and wants to get a bicycle just like yours. He even prefers the original 
 green color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his behalf 
 for starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be 
 considered. Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or 
 sent directly to my email address. 
 Thanks, David 

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[RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt

2015-05-06 Thread sameness


http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2006/images/sheldon-grant-jobst.jpg
Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Any doing Oregon Outback?

2015-05-06 Thread Eric
Just rented a mini-van from Portland, I'm sure I'll have lots of extra room 
for anyone who want to tag along  chip in for gas, snacks  coffee. 

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[RBW] RIP Jobst Brandt

2015-05-06 Thread BSWP
I assume many here have at least heard of Jobst, and maybe a lesser number 
have read and understood his writings on bicycling and wheel building.

https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/jobst-brandt-leaves-behind-memories-to-last-a-lifetime/

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

2015-05-06 Thread Zach Duval
Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.canadiano.co/?

Seems reasonably bikepackable and enviro-sound (avoiding disposable 
filters), but pricey...

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 9:41:28 AM UTC-6, Kellie wrote:

 Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what 
 people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home 
 without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.


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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread William deRosset
Wait. You got 10,000mi from an ISIS bottom bracket? You should win an 
award. Those are pretty well-known for eating bearings in the wet, or even 
in Semi-Arid climates.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:06:59 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:

 Dear WETH,

 The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it 
 loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is 
 fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly 
 with aluminum. 

 Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight 
 as you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts 
 back to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9 wrench 
 is about right) after your first weekend riding. 

 Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench 
 depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. 
 Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg 
 taper

 Best,

 Will
 William M. deRosset
 Fort Collins, CO


 On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:

 Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
 took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
 Long version: really it is too long: 
 Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last 
 week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose 
 and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt 
 had not fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex 
 wrench large enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I 
 could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten 
 the bolt a bit more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I 
 repeated by previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to 
 make it to work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills 
 and coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
 wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
 had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
 trouble free ride home. 

 Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened 
 again.  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 

 About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
 both crank arms to clean and inspect. 

 Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
 interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
 no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
 this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
 Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 

 Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
 curiosity: 
 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex 
 wrench?   
 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
 fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
 it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 

 Thanks, 
 Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
 Houston 
 PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. 
  I did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
 favor with the cycling gods. 



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Re: [RBW] RIP Jobst Brandt

2015-05-06 Thread Tim McNamara
Damn.  Rider off!

It happens to us all but somehow when it’s the larger-than-life characters it’s 
a shock, even though Jobst had been ill for several years following his severe 
accident on his last bike ride.  I enjoyed many a spirited discussion on 
rec.bicycles.tech and in e-mails with him over 15-20 years, although I never 
met him in person.  rec.bikes hasn’t been the same since Jobst was no longer 
able to post (although there are others reasons for that too, such as the slow 
death of Usenet).

50 years of bike touring in the Alps, the famous Sunday morning “Jobst rides” 
in the Bay Area, rides in the Sierras… Jobst’s bike stories inspired me to go 
out and look for a little adventure on my bike, including the best bike 
vacation I have ever taken- my own tour of the Alps in 2002.  Here’s 20 of his 
reports:

http://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html

and some Jobst ride reports:

http://home.comcast.net/~rayhosler/bayareabikerides/rides/past_rides.htm

Requiescat in pace!

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[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?

2015-05-06 Thread William deRosset
Dear WETH,

The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it 
loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is 
fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly 
with aluminum. 

Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight as 
you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts back 
to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9 wrench is 
about right) after your first weekend riding. 

Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench 
depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. 
Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg 
taper

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO


On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:

 Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I 
 took it off to clean and inspect.  Any ideas why? 
 Long version: really it is too long: 
 Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, 
 I felt a wobble as I pedaled.  The left crank arm had worked loose and was 
 almost off the bottom bracket spindle.  Fortunately the crank bolt had not 
 fallen out.  Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large 
 enough to fit the bolt.  I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand 
 tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit 
 more.  A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again.  I repeated by 
 previous repair.  This happened twice more before I was able to make it to 
 work.  Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and 
 coasting down them, which would have been fine.  I wasn't late and it 
 wasn't cold or rainy.  Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office 
 had the appropriately sized hex wrench.  I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a 
 trouble free ride home. 

 Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. 
  This time I had the tool and tightened it. 

 About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off 
 both crank arms to clean and inspect. 

 Now I am nervous.  Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt 
 interface?  Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had 
 no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as 
 this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a 
 Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) 

 Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my 
 curiosity: 
 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 
   
 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash 
 fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does 
 it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? 

 Thanks, 
 Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, 
 Houston 
 PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain.  I 
 did have the right tools.  Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of 
 favor with the cycling gods. 


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RE: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

2015-05-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Williamson
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.

This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light 
wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64!
I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, but 
couldn't rationalize it with logic.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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RE: [RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

2015-05-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
You can use a rechargeable helmet mount headlight.  I use this one, and it’s 
fantastic – very bright, extremely sturdy, and long charge life.  Expensive, 
though.

http://www.ibexsports.com/Exposure-Lights-Headlight-Switching-Technology/dp/B00LZXYY76


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?

agree, I like the mounted light from headset level to rack level, then add a 
helmet light

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 4:07:45 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
I would just augment your Edelux with a good head lamp. And bring extra 
batteries.

Great for spotting low hanging tree limbs, tight curves, setting up camp, or 
searching for that mysterious metal thing you heard fall out of your bag.

You can always turn it off when riding the straight  narrow.

John
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