Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
time has proved the opposite true. Photobucket used to be 2GB free, you pay for more and you pay for more bandwidth. Now 20 GB and unlimited bandwidth is free. On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-5, tarik...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating even less than recently honestly... I would caution that relying on free storage for archiving posts and photos is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of their free services before and will again. Trolling through MTBR and other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active services. I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a few GB. So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well within a year. later Tarik On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to the bike lists. I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore the rest. I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. Thanks for the replies and suggestions. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: And it's all in your email? You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and Photos (not email attachments) are using http://account.google.com On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good. I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with). Philip www.biketinker.com On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders) which really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off list, many many people seem to use the google group interface. So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely lost cause. Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I would pretend to speak for anyone else. Later Tarik On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at ~100MB each, CR was at something like 300 MB. Again, for less than a month, that is half a GB of email traffic. Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement anymore, so the more the merrier I guess. I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy mailbox searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, but again we are looking at 1GB of email a year EACH from ibob and RBW. Which is not text. That is
[RBW] Re: DIY (cheap) Canvas Saddlebag
Thanks folks. It's nowhere near as nice or functional as Sackville, Carradice, etc, but as I said, anticipated frequency of use does not justify a costlier bag for me. Also, I enjoy projects like this. I'm not done messing with it, I may change the location of the mounting straps. Also thought about waterproofing, either with wax, Scotchguard or ?? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any doing Oregon Outback?
I'm going as well. Riding from Seattle a few days before, taking the train to Klamath, and riding the Oregon Outback in 3 days on my Atlantis. Then hopefully riding back to Portland, though I've got a ride lined up for me and my buddies in case we're toast. Should be a good time! On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:39:43 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Yes - a couple folks from Seattle planning to make the ride. We are taking the Amtrak to Klamath Falls. I'll be on a Hunqapillar. Not sure about post-ride quite yet, but planning on taking a 4-6 day ride and diverging from the official course around Prineville to get more time on the Deschutes river trails. I believe there may be more folks from Portland vs. Seattle ride contingent, but haven't heard the final verdict yet. Definitely no racing here... Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 4:58:41 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote: Anyone doing it this year? Anyone traveling from Portland? Anyone taking the train (or renting a car)? Any plans to get back to Portland post ride? Let's talk logistics (not tire choices) :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
I think the other issue with attaching large photos is many people are getting emails on their phones and have bandwidth limits. My own is unlimited so generally not a problem, but when we were on the road March/April my husband and I relied on our phones as hotspots for our computers and we are limited with that. And, unless it has changed, I think when I am using the phone as a hotspot the usage on the phone counts towards the limit too, not just what I use for my computer. With email syncing all the time on both, I am sometimes unintentionally doubling my usage. I love seeing the photos in the body because it is more convenient, but know it is better for me to wait until I am on an unlimited use connection to see it, so a link works better as it gives me control. The photos I take on my phone are pretty high resolution on purpose because my husband's hobby is photography and he wants to start with good pics. I haven't figured out yet how to email a pic from my phone in reduced resolution so I don't know how to nicely add a pic if I'm posting from my phone (I may have inadvertently added a high res one before figuring that out - sorry). When I've posted from my computer, I started just opening the photo on my computer and snipping it to then copy it in. I think the resulting photo is small enough to not cause a problem. (We started off the trip by sharing the photos we'd each taken during the day by emailing them to each other. It didn't take me long to figure out my 3GB monthly hotspot allowance would be eaten up in no time. One email from my phone to my husband (sitting across the room from me) racked up usage sending to him and then syncing to my computer to my sent folder and then used up the same on his allowance. Swapping USB drives was a much better idea. although not nearly as convenient) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.
The green steel riser stem is a Salsa I bought in 1988 or so, for my first mountain bike. I painted it Shamrock Green with a spraycan from the auto parts store. Ties the whole bike together. ;^) Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.
This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64! I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, but couldn't rationalize it with logic. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Best commute?
Tom: I hope there's at least a good coffee shop near the office, so as to not entirely displace your far-too-nice-to-ever-give-up commute when you retire... just saying... Bobby On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 6:52:27 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote: Tom, You commute through some scenic and peaceful areas. Thanks for sharing the lovely photos. I imagine your commute is a cathartic way to start and end the work day. Your office looks nice, too. -Erl On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 9:43:34 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: Different commutes suit different riders, obviously, but as I was riding my Hilsen to work this morning, I thought to myself that for me, a commute can’t get much better than mine. It’s not very long (a little over five miles one way), but it’s beautiful: mostly trails or parks, several bridges, a segment of the east Coast Greenway along the Brandywine Creek, a couple of lovely footbridges, some wild Delaware Blue Rock cliffs, a rose garden, and even a little history thrown in. This quick set shows a few spots along the way, but doesn’t begin to capture all of the ways mine is a great commute. https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157652363838382/ Who else wants to nominate his or her commute as “the best” – at least for you? -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Best commute?
Tom, your vida con velo consistently makes me smile. Thanks for kicking this off and showing your lovely highlights. I will ride a 9-miler tomorrow before daylight, and 26 miles home by way of a tool shop. Thinking picture will only increase the fun. Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...
I'm intrigued! Can anyone compare how's the clearance for fenders with Big Ben v. Thunder Burts? And thoughts about the TB's as a commuter tire, summer and winter both? The reduction in weight is of great interest. I run 26 BB's on the wee but long custom and *love* the ride (and that I can get them in brown). However, I'm just not that big and not that young so when the bike is set up with front and rear racks and bags, it's hard for me to carry it up and down the stairs to the basement where the little steed beds down for the night in fluffy fresh hay. Losing 2 pounds in tires would be appreciated! Also note that I am not flat-prone (which of course will change immediately now that I put it in writing). RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.
I've actually tried to rationalize getting a third Quickbeam. Unsuccessfully so far, but gave it a good shot! One townie, one monstercross, one light roadie. the perfect trifecta of singlespeed goodness! On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated. -Original Message- From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] On Behalf Of Philip Williamson Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:33 AM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam. This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64! I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, but couldn't rationalize it with logic. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy
It's pretty hard to find a post shorter than 250mm these days, but you'll be fine cutting off an inch as long as its reasonably buried in the seattube. I wouldn't do it if you're at the maximum mark, but you have the opposite problem. Conversely, if you want to try a pre-cut Kalloy for cheap, I have the one that came on my ANT Roadster a few months ago. My bike shows barely a fistful of post, so I presume Mike Flanigan sawed off an inch just to drop a little weight. One plus with this is that he put a little bevel around the bottom to make it easier to slide into the tube..a straight-cut is a little harder to slip in there. $20 shipped if you want to give it a whirl, email or text 415-786-4623 for pics. Oh, I replaced it with a V-O someone was selling here just 'cause I like the way it looks :) Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, John wrote: I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the seat post by about 3/4 - 1. My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more space, but this is the smallest concern at this point. Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are stopped by the junction of the seat top tubes. It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try finding something shorter? Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings would be very welcome. Thanks in advance, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance
Thanks Tim The Ostrich DLX looks appealing, especially at the Alex's price. If you DIY things, consider Lone Peak hardware. My F20 has 10mm tubing. My Ortliebs have hooks that are too big, and a hook spacer that makes them too small. Lone Peaks sells 10mm latching hook hardware that should fit perfecto right off the bat. On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 2:27:40 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: Funny, I was just thinking the same thing! I love the F20 for style and function, but most front panniers are meant to be mounted higher and thus are too tall for the very low riders. I use an old pair of Mountainsmith front panniers on the F20 rack on my girlfriend's San Marcos. They hang a couple inches off the bottom of the frame, but are still at least 6 inches off the ground. Good enough for me. For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made for this rack. And they're pretty darned handsome as well. I've considered buying mil surplus messenger style bags and adding Ortlieb hardware. Tim On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Well, I've pursued this project with some success. The measurement I asked for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze ons. Turns out I did need them. Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike. It will mainly be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed. But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers. So, what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack? I have front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well because they are too tall. I have some old Jandd front panniers that I might get to work, but they also are on the tall side. I have Sackville HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best. The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at Ruthworks and get custom bags. Is there another model of pannier that is made for the Nitto F20? Link to the rack below. Each removable lowrider is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: You have a Nitto F20. It's the Front Campee model with the removable pannier lowriders: F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html It's the model for 26 wheels. Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one. Yours is the F20. Could you please take a measurement? Down at the bottom, the lowest mounting hole has the spacer built in. Up where the struts attach, there's an oval slot. I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting hole to the top of the slot. If you own that rack and can take that measurement for me, I will be super grateful. I need to check that distance before I shell out for a $280 rack. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy
It is common and OK to cut off the unneeded part of a seat post. I have done it, or you could take it to a bike shop with a good mechanic and have them do it. Lots of modern bikes require extremely long seatposts and the excess routinely gets cut off. A couple of years ago I bought a beautiful used Saluki and was surprised to find that the classic Suntour Superbe seatpost had been cut pretty near the minimum of what I needed. Michael On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:24:01 PM UTC-4, John wrote: I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the seat post by about 3/4 - 1. My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more space, but this is the smallest concern at this point. Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are stopped by the junction of the seat top tubes. It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try finding something shorter? Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings would be very welcome. Thanks in advance, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
My completely uneducated first guess is you've gradually worn off the edges of the spline/crank interface, which leaves the crankarm wobbling around until you jam it on there a little tighter, then it wears some more, then you jam it on again. So the bolt isn't backing off, it's just losing friction against the thing it was pushing on. PS. I hate Octalink/ISIS. It's a bunch of itty bitty surfaces which replaced four perfectly good square ones. Why? On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 4:26:25 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote: Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
You can use blue loctite in the crank bolts On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:26:25 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote: Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
IME, once a crank arm starts doing what you described, it's time to get a new crank arm. You can try different options for a fix, but it'll be a short fix at best. David Chicago On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:26:25 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote: Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: V.O. fixed wheelset?
+1 for Rich's wheels. He built me a free/free rear wheel for my Quickbeam using a green Phil hub and a green A23 rim. Still rock solid. Corwin On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 5:14:23 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: I'd give Rich a call. Spent a little more to get a Phil hub built up for the QB and it's been amazingly solid. Threw it on the truing stand this winter and it was still spot on and rounder than round. http://www.handsonwheels.com/ - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy
I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the seat post by about 3/4 - 1. My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more space, but this is the smallest concern at this point. Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are stopped by the junction of the seat top tubes. It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try finding something shorter? Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings would be very welcome. Thanks in advance, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need advice fitting/finding a shorter seat post for a 47cm Betty Foy
It is absolutely OK to cut a seatpost. It damages your resale value and you need to be careful since now the min insertion line is meaningless if you raise it a bunch, but other than those things, go for it. On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:24:01 PM UTC-7, John wrote: I'm trying to fine tune the saddle on my SO's 47cm Betty, and it looks like I either need a slightly shorter seat post, or I need to shorten the seat post by about 3/4 - 1. My SO's PBH is 73 and the lowest I can get the saddle is 62cm from saddle to axle with a B68. I would like to use a B7s to give her a little more space, but this is the smallest concern at this point. Both the Nitto Crystal Fellow and Nitto Lugged seat posts seem to be slightly too long to get a Brooks 68s or B67s down far enough. They are stopped by the junction of the seat top tubes. It looks like shortening the lugged seat post would get either the B68s or B67s saddle low enough, and back far enough to be comfortable. Are there any problems with sawing a bit off the end, or should I try finding something shorter? Any alternatives, ideas, suggestions, hints, advice, and dire warnings would be very welcome. Thanks in advance, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?
Maybe a less expensive solution will work, particularly if your dynamo setup can support a USB cable. I got a Cygo-lite from Riv a couple months back. It is inexpensive, fits on bars, is easily swiveled around while riding, and is fairly bright. Yes, you can point it into turns with a spare hand if you need to. That's probably not something you need to do often, but you can do it. It charges via USB cable so you have light available for evenings if you charged during day riding. It's very small and very light. It's also a great camping light. Will On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 3:32:01 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: In ten days I'll be heading out west for a ten day tour in Oregon. There will be some long days where we'll be riding into the night, and that's got me thinking about how I have my lights mounted. I'm using an Edelux II light with a SONdelux hub. The light is mounted to the light mount on a Nitto Campee front rack. It is perfect when riding in the dark on straight roads or moderate curves. It is not so great when you are on trails or tight fast corners, like switch backs when coming down the mountains. Like all bike-mounted lights, the beam is directed forward, rather than into the turn. This has given me a few hair-raising moments when I can't see what's around the bend. Mounting your light to your helmet is an obvious alternative, so you are lighting whatever you are looking at. However, that's very awkward with a dynamo. For those who ride in the mountains or on twisty roads, what do you do? Maybe a dynamo plus a head/helmet light when required? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance
Well, I've pursued this project with some success. The measurement I asked for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze ons. Turns out I did need them. Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike. It will mainly be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed. But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers. So, what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack? I have front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well because they are too tall. I have some old Jandd front panniers that I might get to work, but they also are on the tall side. I have Sackville HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best. The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at Ruthworks and get custom bags. Is there another model of pannier that is made for the Nitto F20? Link to the rack below. Each removable lowrider is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: You have a Nitto F20. It's the Front Campee model with the removable pannier lowriders: F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html It's the model for 26 wheels. Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one. Yours is the F20. Could you please take a measurement? Down at the bottom, the lowest mounting hole has the spacer built in. Up where the struts attach, there's an oval slot. I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting hole to the top of the slot. If you own that rack and can take that measurement for me, I will be super grateful. I need to check that distance before I shell out for a $280 rack. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance
For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made for this rack. And they're pretty darned handsome as well. For a US source for Ostrich, Soma and VO just recently started carrying their handlebar and saddle bags, so they may be able to special order you these panniers. And Angry Catfish in Minneapolis has them. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance
Or Bike Touring News http://store.biketouringnews.com/ostrich-canvas-panniers/ At the US price, you could order the panniers AND the rack from Alex's in Japan. Shipping may take longer... On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made for this rack. And they're pretty darned handsome as well. For a US source for Ostrich, Soma and VO just recently started carrying their handlebar and saddle bags, so they may be able to special order you these panniers. And Angry Catfish in Minneapolis has them. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Spring Cleaning - Round 2. Parts Bags - Odds Ends.
With the anticipation of a tiny new member of the household in the upcoming months, I've been kindly asked to clear out unnecessary bike bits and bags that have been piling up... So, Round 2 of Spring Cleaning! Same sort of deal that I've done in the past - items are listed on my webstore: treetop.bigcartel.com Shipping is a flat $6 per order, shipped USPS Priority Mail so items will arrive quickly. I also have other bags there that aren't in the following list, and Willow chainrings. Please go through the links for photos and info. Contact me offlist if you can if you have any questions. Payment can be through Paypal or a credit/debit card (without needing to use Paypal). Local pickup is fine, just order through the store and I'll refund the shipping charge. Thanks, David Chicago Cygolite 310 Light - *$35* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/cygolite-streak-310-light Tall Rando Bag - roughly the same size as an Acorn Tall Rando bag, red waxed canvas, tan leather - *$175 *- http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/tall-rando-bag-red-waxed-canvas Suntour XCE Derailleur Set - front and rear - *$15* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/suntour-xce-derailleur-set Level Components Fixed Gear Hub - w/ 16t 17t cogs, 36h, 135mm - *$50* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/level-components-fixed-gear-hub Dia Compe XCE Brake Levers - *$10* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/dia-compe-xce-brake-levers 1 Headset Mount Spring Bell - *$8* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/headset-mount-spring-bell BM 4D Lite Dynamo Taillight - *$15* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/busch-muller-4d-lite-dynamo-taillight Zefal Solibloc Frame Pump - black - *$10* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/zefal-solibloc-pump Jansport Backpack - not bike-specific but fits in a basket just fine - dark blue with brown leather - *$20* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/jansport-backpack-dark-blue-brown-leather Bar Bag/Wedge Set - 2 bags, deluxe-y, leather liners - *$75* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/front-bar-bag-saddle-wedge-combo-black-w-leather-liner Boxy Front Bag/Saddlebag - new design for me, 12x8x8, fits on a front rack or saddlebag support/saddle - *$90* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/boxy-front-bag-saddlebag Small Saddlebag Test Bag - prototype of a new design - *$25* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/small-saddlebag-prototype-test-bag Medium Saddle Wedge - YELLOW (1 available) OR RED (5 available) - *$25* - http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/medium-saddle-wedge-waxed-canvas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird measurement request. Nitto F20 distance
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing! I love the F20 for style and function, but most front panniers are meant to be mounted higher and thus are too tall for the very low riders. I use an old pair of Mountainsmith front panniers on the F20 rack on my girlfriend's San Marcos. They hang a couple inches off the bottom of the frame, but are still at least 6 inches off the ground. Good enough for me. For designed-to-fit, the Ostrich DLX panniers http://www.alexscycle.com/bags-1/side-and-pannier-bag/ are also made for this rack. And they're pretty darned handsome as well. I've considered buying mil surplus messenger style bags and adding Ortlieb hardware. Tim On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I've pursued this project with some success. The measurement I asked for below was to scope out whether or not I needed mid fork-braze ons. Turns out I did need them. Now I have a Nitto F20 MT Campee front rack on this bike. It will mainly be used with a basket and the removable lowriders, um, removed. But, I would like to be capable of using the lowriders for panniers. So, what are some suggestions for panniers to fit this particular rack? I have front and rear roll top Ortliebs and they are not going to work well because they are too tall. I have some old Jandd front panniers that I might get to work, but they also are on the tall side. I have Sackville HAR fronts, but that would be a hack, at best. The ones that appear made for this rack are Berthoud GB372, but if I'm going to spend $500 for one pair of panniers, I'll give my money to Ely at Ruthworks and get custom bags. Is there another model of pannier that is made for the Nitto F20? Link to the rack below. Each removable lowrider is a rectangle, 9 tall and 11 wide. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:01:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: You have a Nitto F20. It's the Front Campee model with the removable pannier lowriders: F20 Front http://store.somafab.com/nica26tora.html It's the model for 26 wheels. Not the 650B one, and not the 700c one. Yours is the F20. Could you please take a measurement? Down at the bottom, the lowest mounting hole has the spacer built in. Up where the struts attach, there's an oval slot. I'm looking for the distance from the center of the mounting hole to the bottom of the slot, and also from the center of the mounting hole to the top of the slot. If you own that rack and can take that measurement for me, I will be super grateful. I need to check that distance before I shell out for a $280 rack. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS/ WTT nitto/ schwalbe/ sugino
Michael: I've sent you a couple of private messages on your post but have not heard anything. Are you not receiving PMs on google? I'm specifically interested in the Mondial tires. Send an e-mail to dougpn...@cox.net. Thanks. dougP On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 11:30:51 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: hey group! I came across some lesser used stuff and wanted to post to the list.Prices include shipping 1) Nitto big back rack (large) $150 2) nitto noodle handlebars w/ shimano aero levers. 48cm wide/ heat treated. Some tape residue $60 3) schwalbe mondial tires, 700x 47 Barely used, maybe 200 miles. $40/pair 4) Schwalbe Smart sam, 29x 2.1, barely used $30/pair 5) Schwalbe marathon XR 700x 50, Used some but lots of life $40/pair 6) Schwalbe Duremes 700x50 barely used $40/ pair Also, i have 2 Sugino 46T, 110 bcd chainrings that id like to trade for 2 34T 110bcd chainrings. Preference given to bay area local pickup, Deals always made for multiple items. Contact off list please and thanks!-Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
I thought you could still look at old posts through the web interface? Or are these iBob posts that didn't come from Google Groups? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to the bike lists. I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore the rest. I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. Thanks for the replies and suggestions. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: And it's all in your email? You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and Photos (not email attachments) are using http://account.google.com On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good. I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with). Philip www.biketinker.com On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders) which really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off list, many many people seem to use the google group interface. So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely lost cause. Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I would pretend to speak for anyone else. Later Tarik On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at ~100MB each, CR was at something like 300 MB. Again, for less than a month, that is half a GB of email traffic. Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement anymore, so the more the merrier I guess. I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy mailbox searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, but again we are looking at 1GB of email a year EACH from ibob and RBW. Which is not text. That is images. I don't download images on my phone unless I want them, but it seems like we are way beyond a tipping point. So I think the cat is out of the bag and we won't go back the way it was and it will only get worse, so I think whatever plan I used to have is invalid, carry on into the future you image attaching peoples. Later Tarik On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I use Gmail and subscribe to several email lists including iBOB and RBW (routing the messages directly to All Mail so my Inbox remains uncluttered). Recently I've been getting an alert from Gmail saying I am almost at my 15 GB limit for free storage. I would rather not pay Google a monthly fee for the luxury of additional storage. Searching my Gmail messages using the term larger:5m I found many bike list emails, often of the For Sale variety, with large photo attachments. I humbly request that list members consider uploading their photos to one of the many free sites like Flickr or Picasa and providing a link, rather than attaching large photos directly to emails. If anybody has other suggestions, I'm all ears. I realize there is the option to browse messages on the Google Groups website but until now I've found it convenient to have the messages in my Gmail
Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
Thanks, Jim -- I'll give it a look. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend Flickr/Yahoo as opposed to Picasa/Google because Flickr gives you a free terabyte of storage. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks; I think I understand now what the discussion is about. I'll investigate Picassa or the other one, or see if I can figure out how to use what I think is the storage allotted to me with my website for posting photos. My question was probably dumb enough that I may have sounded sarcastic or facetious, but I really wasn't clear whether Jim meant that sort of attachment or copying the photo directly into the body of the email, as I've also done on occasion. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, Sharing a photo of Beryl Burton, OBE, is undeniably GOOD, but yes, you have attached the photo to an email that was sent to me and thousands of other people. The image you attached is only 0.052 megabytes, so no biggie. It is the For Sale and other posts that include multiple megabytes of photo attachments which impact storage space. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'all help out a clueless photo app/attachment/doohickey user. First, I bailed on Picassa a couple of years ago after they (IMEO) f* it up by making it harder to use and requiring something or other from me that I now forget and that I didn't want to give them. (I also want to bail on Google, but that's harder to do. Gawdarn feature creep!) Here's my question: Is hooking photos to the email in the way Jim described below, as with my recent FS posts, instead of pasting the photo directly into the body of the email, GOOD or BAD? Patrick we got no links Moore, with beetled brow furrowed in concentrated exasperation. (I have attache a photo using this method to illustrate my question.) On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: [SNIPPO] However, as we are having more technical discussions, often members are supplying specific phone-snapped images which provide an excellent answer to the question. And it's these which deserve to be in threads, enhancing the discussions. With that in mind, here's how you do it. Illustrated with images Step One - when you post or reply to a post, you should see a little skuemorphic paper clip doohickey. To the right of that will be the magic words Attach a File Click on that. Step Two - you should get an upload window, and you can drag and drop (with certain...well, most... browsers) and an option to select from your computer. Now, some of that functionality won't necessarily work from iOS or Android OS's. So, there's that. Maybe someone can share an image to this thread from their iPhone, iPad or Android device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. Aristotle The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Cardiff and Ruthworks bags have been sold. [Re: FS: 2 canvas seat bags, fit standard saddles]
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[RBW] Re: 51cm Sam Hillborne build: advice?
I sprung for the VO Zeppelins, as I really liked the 45s I had on my Raleigh Portage (also 650B, with cantis) and prefer the aluminum to plastic. If I can't make them work I'll see about swapping with the Portage (a sweet bike, btw). I'm hoping to start the build as soon as a couple more parts roll into the shop. Thanks everyone for the advice so far! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
I took Tarik's point to be about longevity and reliablity, rather than cost. The web is ephemeral. If Flickr changes their file structure, or is the target of a sustained DOS attack, or Yahoo sells it off, my blog will lose 90% of its pictures. Future generations reading the BOB archives would never know what my Quickbeam looks like! Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: time has proved the opposite true. Photobucket used to be 2GB free, you pay for more and you pay for more bandwidth. Now 20 GB and unlimited bandwidth is free. On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:25:35 PM UTC-5, tarik...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating even less than recently honestly... I would caution that relying on free storage for archiving posts and photos is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of their free services before and will again. Trolling through MTBR and other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active services. I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a few GB. So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well within a year. later Tarik On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to the bike lists. I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore the rest. I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. Thanks for the replies and suggestions. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: And it's all in your email? You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and Photos (not email attachments) are using http://account.google.com On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good. I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with). Philip www.biketinker.com On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com wrote: I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders) which really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off list, many many people seem to use the google group interface. So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely lost cause. Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I would pretend to speak for anyone else. Later Tarik On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at ~100MB each, CR was at something like 300 MB. Again, for less than a month, that is half a GB of email traffic. Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a
Re: [RBW] Re: Broken Crank (Quickbeam)
thanks Bob, I was curious. While that is a high stress area, seems like there has to be something in the surface or microstructure producing a stress riser to get such a well-defined and straight crack origin. On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:26:16 AM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Was the crack coincident with a stamped marking in the crank arm? I checked and no, there's no stamped marking on that part of the crank. Just one of those things. :-) Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
I recommend Flickr/Yahoo as opposed to Picasa/Google because Flickr gives you a free terabyte of storage. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks; I think I understand now what the discussion is about. I'll investigate Picassa or the other one, or see if I can figure out how to use what I think is the storage allotted to me with my website for posting photos. My question was probably dumb enough that I may have sounded sarcastic or facetious, but I really wasn't clear whether Jim meant that sort of attachment or copying the photo directly into the body of the email, as I've also done on occasion. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, Sharing a photo of Beryl Burton, OBE, is undeniably GOOD, but yes, you have attached the photo to an email that was sent to me and thousands of other people. The image you attached is only 0.052 megabytes, so no biggie. It is the For Sale and other posts that include multiple megabytes of photo attachments which impact storage space. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'all help out a clueless photo app/attachment/doohickey user. First, I bailed on Picassa a couple of years ago after they (IMEO) f* it up by making it harder to use and requiring something or other from me that I now forget and that I didn't want to give them. (I also want to bail on Google, but that's harder to do. Gawdarn feature creep!) Here's my question: Is hooking photos to the email in the way Jim described below, as with my recent FS posts, instead of pasting the photo directly into the body of the email, GOOD or BAD? Patrick we got no links Moore, with beetled brow furrowed in concentrated exasperation. (I have attache a photo using this method to illustrate my question.) On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:31 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: [SNIPPO] However, as we are having more technical discussions, often members are supplying specific phone-snapped images which provide an excellent answer to the question. And it's these which deserve to be in threads, enhancing the discussions. With that in mind, here's how you do it. Illustrated with images Step One - when you post or reply to a post, you should see a little skuemorphic paper clip doohickey. To the right of that will be the magic words Attach a File Click on that. Step Two - you should get an upload window, and you can drag and drop (with certain...well, most... browsers) and an option to select from your computer. Now, some of that functionality won't necessarily work from iOS or Android OS's. So, there's that. Maybe someone can share an image to this thread from their iPhone, iPad or Android device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. Aristotle The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Broken Crank (Quickbeam)
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Was the crack coincident with a stamped marking in the crank arm? I checked and no, there's no stamped marking on that part of the crank. Just one of those things. :-) Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com Wu Name: Tha Eurythmic King of Nowhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Photos: please consider providing link rather than attachment
Google has never reduced the amount of free storage available to their end users. They know that people would jump to their competitors in a heartbeat. There's a million free webmail services these days. Where they tend to roll things back is where they have monopoly power over things. Read about the EU lawsuit against Google, it's pretty interesting. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:25 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said before, these were email lists, they are not really anymore, and we are not really going back, I will adjust, probably by participating even less than recently honestly... I would caution that relying on free storage for archiving posts and photos is dicey at best, even with the big G behind it, things will change again one day, but hopefully not soon. Google has abandoned parts of their free services before and will again. Trolling through MTBR and other bike fora for older photos show their share of broken or inaccessible attached images, even though they are directly uploaded to still active services. I did run some of the email traffic numbers by Alex Wetmore as I was so astounded at the change in the size of list traffic, which I think has become much worse in the last year as the email dinosaurs such as me and David are being replaced by more web based people. . He said he had over a million messages from the search.bikelist,org times in his basement in a few GB. So we are basically eclipsing decades of traffic volume well within a year. later Tarik On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:43 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, yes, it is almost all Gmail: 13.36 GB Gmail, 1.46 GB Drive, and 0.03 Google+ Photos. Some of that Gmail data is from me emailing large documents to myself, but I think the majority is photo attachments sent to the bike lists. I've been a member of iBOB for a long time and have over 57,000 iBOB messages archived in my Gmail. When I have a bike related question, searching this archive often yields the answer. It will be kind of sad to delete this trove of knowledge in one fell click but I think that is the most sensible thing to do, like Tarik did. Or maybe I will delete all the @googlegroups messages and keep the alex-era @bikelist.org messages. I've used the digest email option before, but didn't like it much because it entailed lots and lots of scrolling to find anything worth reading. With Gmail its easy to click on the conversations that interest me, and ignore the rest. I've also tried the web interface, and didn't like it much, either, but that was a while ago. Perhaps it has improved? I'll give it another try. Thanks for the replies and suggestions. - David G in San Diego On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: And it's all in your email? You can check your Google account to see how much things like Drive and Photos (not email attachments) are using http://account.google.com On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Ah. I must have some secret setting in gmail. Digests? I can't see images in my email - I have to click through to the group if something sounds good. I get the groups in digest form (I miss out on some amazing FS posts, but there's a lot fewer messages to deal with). Philip www.biketinker.com On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:15 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: I had over 10 GB in Ibob and RBW and CR lists in my gmail box (I went from 15GB to 5GB after deleting the entirety of those 3 folders) which really is 100% due to people attaching photos to the email list. I think attaching photos is bad form for an email list, but I realize from the level of bizarre complaints about trouble replying directly to the sender off list, many many people seem to use the google group interface. So I think David's complaint is valid, but i suspect it is a completely lost cause. Not sure there is a good solution for those of us who are used to old email list style management. The google group interface is awful in my experience, especially for how I like to interact with the lists, but I would pretend to speak for anyone else. Later Tarik On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:46 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, wow, in an admittedly unscientific study, I just deleted all the Bob, RBW and CR mail since April 14, 2015, so not even a month since I dumped 10 GB of material. iBob and RBW were at ~100MB each, CR was at something like 300 MB. Again, for less than a month, that is half a GB of email traffic. Anyhow, from old school email dynamics that is a complete travesty, but again, it is not sitting on a drive in Alex's basement anymore, so the more the merrier I guess. I usually delete CR a few times a year, but I do value quick easy mailbox searches on Ibob and RBW as there is content I value more often, but again we
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
Erl, I'm not sure what you have available in your shop at home, but I have most tools and items; work stand, torque wrench, etc etc, you are welcome to come over and use them anytime. Cheers, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
Ron, Joe, David and Steve, Thanks so much for your thoughts. I will try some loctite, while I wait for the new crankset and BB to arrive. Steve, I might be in touch when I install the new components. Much thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam
Happy conclusion: My friend did purchase a new Sam complete bike from Rivendell, although after discussion with them it was decided he needed a 55 cm. It arrived today and I helped him get it ready to ride .https://www.flickr.com/photos/40696121@N00/17209631409/lightbox/ On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:54:26 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my Sam for the weekend along with a copy of Just Ride. When I picked it up this afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the book and wants to get a bicycle just like yours. He even prefers the original green color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his behalf for starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be considered. Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or sent directly to my email address. Thanks, David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: RIP Jobst Brandt
http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2006/images/sheldon-grant-jobst.jpg Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any doing Oregon Outback?
Just rented a mini-van from Portland, I'm sure I'll have lots of extra room for anyone who want to tag along chip in for gas, snacks coffee. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] RIP Jobst Brandt
I assume many here have at least heard of Jobst, and maybe a lesser number have read and understood his writings on bicycling and wheel building. https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/jobst-brandt-leaves-behind-memories-to-last-a-lifetime/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside
Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.canadiano.co/? Seems reasonably bikepackable and enviro-sound (avoiding disposable filters), but pricey... On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 9:41:28 AM UTC-6, Kellie wrote: Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
Wait. You got 10,000mi from an ISIS bottom bracket? You should win an award. Those are pretty well-known for eating bearings in the wet, or even in Semi-Arid climates. Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 11:06:59 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote: Dear WETH, The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly with aluminum. Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight as you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts back to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9 wrench is about right) after your first weekend riding. Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg taper Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote: Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] RIP Jobst Brandt
Damn. Rider off! It happens to us all but somehow when it’s the larger-than-life characters it’s a shock, even though Jobst had been ill for several years following his severe accident on his last bike ride. I enjoyed many a spirited discussion on rec.bicycles.tech and in e-mails with him over 15-20 years, although I never met him in person. rec.bikes hasn’t been the same since Jobst was no longer able to post (although there are others reasons for that too, such as the slow death of Usenet). 50 years of bike touring in the Alps, the famous Sunday morning “Jobst rides” in the Bay Area, rides in the Sierras… Jobst’s bike stories inspired me to go out and look for a little adventure on my bike, including the best bike vacation I have ever taken- my own tour of the Alps in 2002. Here’s 20 of his reports: http://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html and some Jobst ride reports: http://home.comcast.net/~rayhosler/bayareabikerides/rides/past_rides.htm Requiescat in pace! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Loosening crank arm-thoughts on cause/solution?
Dear WETH, The NDS crank is toast given how much time you've spent mashing on it loose. If It won't stay tight, it is trash/recycling. The bb is fine--hardened steel doesn't tend to deform much when it is mated poorly with aluminum. Next time, grease the tapers, crank it TIGHT (that's 40 n-m, or as tight as you can make it with a peanut-butter wrench) and snug the crank bolts back to torque (a torque wrench is helpful, but hellatight with a 9 wrench is about right) after your first weekend riding. Carry a suitable wrench (either an 8mm hex key, or a 14 or 15mm PB wrench depending on your bolts) until you're confident the NDS has settled in. Resist the urge to keep snugging up the bolt--you can split the 2deg taper Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 5:26:25 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote: Short Version: My non driveside crank arm won't stay tightened after I took it off to clean and inspect. Any ideas why? Long version: really it is too long: Four miles into my eight mile commute at 6:30 on Monday morning last week, I felt a wobble as I pedaled. The left crank arm had worked loose and was almost off the bottom bracket spindle. Fortunately the crank bolt had not fallen out. Taking out my tool bag I discovered I had no hex wrench large enough to fit the bolt. I pushed the arm on as far as I could, hand tightened the bolt, and used a needle nose pliers to tighten the bolt a bit more. A mile later, the crank arm worked loose again. I repeated by previous repair. This happened twice more before I was able to make it to work. Worst case scenario would have found me walking up hills and coasting down them, which would have been fine. I wasn't late and it wasn't cold or rainy. Once at work, the fine folks in my facilities office had the appropriately sized hex wrench. I tightened the bolt and enjoyed a trouble free ride home. Four commutes later, or about 64 miles, the same crank arm loosened again. This time I had the tool and tightened it. About 100 miles before the arm came loose the first time, I had taken off both crank arms to clean and inspect. Now I am nervous. Have I stripped the bottom bracket spindle/bolt interface? Have I over greased the BB spindle and crank arm? ( I have had no trouble on the driveside) Thoughts? (I have ordered a new crankset/BB as this combo has 10,000+/- miles trouble free till now) (crankset is a Nashbar mountain triple (ISIS) on a Nashbar BB (ISIS)) Several other questions for the MacGyvers and engineers to satisfy my curiosity: 1) Any other ideas for tightening a loose crank bolt without a hex wrench? 2) With a loose crank arm, is it better to pedal in a high gear and mash fewer strokes for power, or spin in a lower gear with less force, or does it matter in regard to how quickly the arm will work loose? Thanks, Erl, who now has a hex wrench that fits his crank bolts in his tool bag, Houston PS: on my commute this morning, on a different bike, I broke the chain. I did have the right tools. Feeling like I have momentarily fallen out of favor with the cycling gods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam.
When it comes to bike acquisition, logic is overrated. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philip Williamson Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:33 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: I love my Quickbeam. This is my fantasy, too - dyno hub and fenders back on the green 60, light wheels and expensive tires on an orange 62 or 64! I almost pulled the trigger on one of the larger QBs flying by recently, but couldn't rationalize it with logic. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights?
You can use a rechargeable helmet mount headlight. I use this one, and it’s fantastic – very bright, extremely sturdy, and long charge life. Expensive, though. http://www.ibexsports.com/Exposure-Lights-Headlight-Switching-Technology/dp/B00LZXYY76 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Mc Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 5:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where do you mount your lights? agree, I like the mounted light from headset level to rack level, then add a helmet light On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 4:07:45 PM UTC-5, John wrote: I would just augment your Edelux with a good head lamp. And bring extra batteries. Great for spotting low hanging tree limbs, tight curves, setting up camp, or searching for that mysterious metal thing you heard fall out of your bag. You can always turn it off when riding the straight narrow. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.