[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[Allan in Portland]

FWIW, yesterday I shuttled an Atlantis from Deschutes SP back to PDX. I 
don't recall his name, but it was owned and operated by a Canadian.

Cheers,
-Allan

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>
> I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
> hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
> the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots 
> of gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was 
> rock solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never 
> felt under biked. Kudos to the 2.1" Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the 
> first day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. 
> No problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics 
> in the next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an 
> Atlantis on the ride. 
>
> P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and 
> they kept my water bottles usable. 
>
> Brian Hanson 
> Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Mike Shaljian]

I had used panniers and a small saddlebag exclusively on my Sam, and recently 
thought of switching to "bikepacking-style" bags on my Jones Plus. I thought I 
could be a stealth ninja with all-black Revelate/Porcelain Rocket bags for my 
bikepacking rig, but they just seem too confining and hard to organize. I'm 
planning to do many S24O's and some 3-5 day trips this summer and I plan to use 
my Swift Roll Top panniers (≈ 60L), a small Swift Zeitgeist saddle bag and a 
Revelate Sweetroll handlebar bag as my primary bags. I really like the easy 
on/off feature others have mentioned (esp. for quickly going from bikepacking 
bike to everyday bike to mountain bike and back) and also the better 
organization panniers and traditional saddle bags provide. Swift bags are just 
awesome, by the way. Combine with some Sea-to-Summit sil-dry bags and you've 
got a reliable waterproof system. 

I had ordered a frame pack for my bike and I was not impressed with the 
weight-of-bag:capacity ratio, in addition to the issue of inevitable velcro 
breakdown. I also have a Porcelain Rocket saddlebag on order but am considering 
backing out thinking it's not compatible with a rear rack. Panniers may be less 
high-performance than a dedicated bikepacking rig, but there's something to be 
said for tried-and-true simplicity and capaciousness. Especially when you err 
on the pack rat part of the spectrum. 

Here's the bike at the Deschutes River Trail this past weekend! 
http://imgur.com/gXKSxFY

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[RBW] Re: "Last run" of Sams?

[drew]

seems like a hiatus of at least a year. the ominous tone and the upcoming 
projects make me think it will be more than that. i was up there last 
weekend and they said that they received about 100 frames in this last 
shipment. speaking as someone who bought a sam when they financially really 
shouldnt havedo it. 

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[RBW] "Last run" of Sams?

[Reid]

Just received the latest email from Riv. Highlights the black Sam frames 
coming in, mentions frames coming in of the usual blue, then says, "Last 
run." Sounds ominous. Does that mean what I think it means? Like if I 
kinda' think I want one, I'd better pry open my checkbook and shake out all 
the moths?

Reid

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

The "romance" has overtaken me! Panniers, saddlebag, handlebar bag, folder 
"frontbag", rack trunk, frame bag, basket bag... as long as it's canvas and 
supported by steel and/or leather if at all practical... I love it. As for 
Arkel/Ortlieb/other... the fine well-engineered examples have decided 
advantages... sometimes it's shape, rigidity, organization, ruggedness, sheer 
size... But I love the romance. So give me canvas.

Saddlebags for a more carefree, lighter approach, with or without a rack. 
Panniers for larger loads or more potential. Front bag on the Bike Friday with 
its Brompton-style luggage mount. Handlebar bag for accessibility (though 
nothing beats RandiJo's Bartender for sheer convenience). Basket bags if 
baskets are already attached from some prior particular need. Rack trunks hold 
tools up front and a growler in the back.

Precisely because I can not just settle on which bag type is generally more 
useful/appealing I often end up (over years) with the near-complete "gruppo" of 
any bag brand/design I find appealing. Though of Ostriches I still have only 
the one  bag, the DLX pannier. The Big Bicycling! Excellent equipment!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Anne Paulson]

I was using the right inserts for the pannier hooks, but on checking
my panniers, I see that I've lost several of them. They fall out, and
they break. I don't notice it on flat pavement, but on dirt they go
bumpity bumpity bumpity.

I'm going to follow your innertube/ziptie advice, though.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Tim Gavin
 wrote:
> Anne-
>
> There are two sizes of inserts for the Orlieb clips; ensure you're using the
> ones that fit your rack tubing.  One size fits the Nitto rack on my Riv
> perfectly, the other size fits the Tubus on my KOM.


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It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.

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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Dennis Hogan]

+1 for John's Big Agnes system. I don't have it but wish I did. Am 
contemplating velcro to attach the bag to the pad but haven't tried the 
idea yet. Am also a side sleeper and find the bag and pad seem to have a 
-/+ relationship of mutual attraction leading to sore mornings.
Dennis in PDX

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-7, John Bennett wrote:
>
> Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits 
> into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic!
>
> https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
>> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
>> and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
>> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
>> blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling 
>> the pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
>> interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
>> i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 
>>
>> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd 
>> mini mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave 
>> open for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided 
>> cooler. 
>>
>> *rear rack/camper bag*
>>
>> tent
>>
>> sleeping bag/pad
>>
>> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
>> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>>
>> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>>
>> lock
>>
>> towel 
>>
>> camera 
>>
>> *tools/maintenance *
>>
>> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>>
>> multi tool
>>
>> crescent wrench 
>>
>> pump
>>
>>
>> *front panniers *
>>
>> 5 t-shirts
>>
>> overshirt 
>>
>> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
>>
>> 2 shorts
>>
>> underwear/socks
>>
>> rain jacket
>>
>> packable down jacket
>>
>> sandals
>>
>> toiletries 
>>
>> chargers/ipod nano
>>
>>
>>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
>> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
>> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
>> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Ryan Christbaum]

>
> Definitely a warm jacket of some sort.  I live in the Berkeley hills and I 
> only sleep with the windows open 3-5 days per year.  I know a guy who once 
> drove cabs in SF and made the best money during the summer from freezing 
> passengers.  You could also detour east of SF by 20 miles and get the Riv 
> tour.
>
 
-Ryan 

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[RBW] Re: Visting Portland

[Dennis Hogan]

Hey Kurt,
Check out the rides at the Portland Wheelman site (PWTC.com). They offer 
rides every day of the week that go all over PDX at various paces.
You'll get a good sense of the area and they almost always include a coffee 
stop.
Dennis in PDX

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
>
> My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple 
> weeks and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
> enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of 
> having my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
>
> Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
> Velo Cult. 
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

[JohnS]

Hello donavanm,

Having your bike stolen sucks, hopefully you can get a new set of wheels 
soon. Here's a couple of suggestions for you.

High Option: If you don't come across a QB/S1 any time soon, I would 
recommend the 2012 Salsa Casseroll. I bought one last spring when I 
couldn't find a QB/S1. The Casseroll was NOS and was available at an 
independent bike shop that's about an hour from my house. Great bike, very 
similar geometry, feel and features as the QB/S1, canti brakes, chromoly 
frame, light touring geometry, semi-horizontal drop outs, lots of braze on 
mounting points for racks, fenders, three water bottles and frame peg. The 
Riv Little Big Bens fit, fillet brazed not lugged. I paid $700 for the 
frame, fork and custom front rack. I'm using it as my commuter and have it 
set up fixed. The QB that I bought this year came with custom wheels built 
up with Phil Wood hubs which are very nice. I replaced the QB rear wheel 
with the two speed fixed Bendix and mounted the Phil hub rear wheel on the 
Casseroll. I did have to change the end caps to match the Casseroll 130 
OLD. The Casseroll had a limited production run and are kind of rare, so it 
might be just as hard to find as a QB/S1.

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/archive/2012_casseroll

Low Option: As you had mentioned another option would be to build up an old 
touring bike. I have an Azuki Elite frame/fork which I think is late '70's 
that I would be willing to sell for $50 plus shipping. It's 62cm chromoly 
lugged touring frame that was made in Japan. Semi-horizontal drop outs and 
eyelets for fenders, but none for racks nor water bottles. Requires center 
pull or side pull brakes, not canti. Rear OLD is 126mm. Red paint polished 
up nicely, but it does have some scratches. Azuki was make by Kawamura 
(Nishiki) for West Coast Cycle. I think building it up as a Frankin bike 
using the S1 fork and a Paul racer rear brake would be pretty cool. Let me 
know if you're interested, I can provide pictures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishiki_%28bicycle%29

Good luck,
JohnS

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:54:45 AM UTC-4, donavanm wrote:
>
> As the subject says, theres another stolen SimpleOne out there now. Last 
> Thursday night I was out at Golden Gardens in Seattle enjoying the sunset 
> with some friends. Bikes were parked ~15 feet away on the beach, which was 
> far enough for someone to make off unnoticed. They kindly left another 
> friends tandem and my helmet plus gloves behind. Already reported to SPD 
> etc, though I have little hope of recovery.
>
> First was my daily commuter, 62CM SimpleOne frame serial M105. At time 
> of theft included black revelate frame bag, black Haulin Colin front rack + 
> wald basket, Supernova light, "Velo Orange" branded SP dynamo hub, salsa 
> delgado rims, silver Paul cantilever brakes, schwalbe little big ben tires. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46199
>
> Second was a friends 1993 XO-2, purple paint, 54cm frame, 
> serial H220098. At time of theft included silver rear rack, white bar tape, 
> salsa 38cm short and shallow drop bars, nitto periscopa stem, bar end 
> shifters, original deore 3x7 drive train, original wheelset. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46200
>
> And now the question, suggestions for a similar single speed frame? The 
> SimpleOne was my favoritist bike, used for daily commuting, shenanigans, 
> and bike camping. Im seriously considering getting a clone custom made, but 
> would like a replacement in a sooner time frame. Are there any production 
> frames with a similar 72.5/72.5 and midlong chainstay geometry? If nothing 
> else I might round up an 80s steel touring frame and throw a SimpleOne fork 
> on it.
>

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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[dougP]

That little Therm-a-Rest pad can also double as a knee pad.  I use my flip 
flops for kneeling pads when messing around in my tent from the outside.  
That would be better.

dougP

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
> and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
> blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling 
> the pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
> interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
> i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 
>
> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
>
> *rear rack/camper bag*
>
> tent
>
> sleeping bag/pad
>
> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>
> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>
> lock
>
> towel 
>
> camera 
>
> *tools/maintenance *
>
> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>
> multi tool
>
> crescent wrench 
>
> pump
>
>
> *front panniers *
>
> 5 t-shirts
>
> overshirt 
>
> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
>
> 2 shorts
>
> underwear/socks
>
> rain jacket
>
> packable down jacket
>
> sandals
>
> toiletries 
>
> chargers/ipod nano
>
>
>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
> strapped to their bikes. 
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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[dougP]

Patrick:

Panniers for the versatility & ease of on'n'off the bike. I've never tried 
one of Rivs ginormous versions but 2 big Ortleibs hold a LOT of stuff.  
I've used a few smaller saddle bags for day rides & such, and they are nice 
for that because you don't bend over to dig around in them.  And you don't 
have to think about "which way to park the bike so it won't fall over on 
the kickstand" when you only have 1 pannier on.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
> many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
> the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
> trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
> back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
> is:
>
> *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
> d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
> *of 
> the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*
>
> So: you reasons "pro" for saddlebags, with or without racks;
>
> And your reasons "con" for same.
>
> My two reasons:
>
> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
> I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
> Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
> might as well get max vol.
>
> 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
> big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
> of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.
>
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> *
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle
>
> *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante  
>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: "03 Curt Goodrich Riv custom out for life-altering surgery.

[Mike Schiller]

Chauncey is replacing the seat stays to allow clearance for 75 mm wide 
650B+ tires. The bike is filet brazed. The rest of the bike will fit them 
as is. The overall diameter of the so-called 650B+ tires is almost the same 
as 29" wheels with a 2.3" tire.  So I can run either wheelset ( disc 
wheels) 55 mm 29er wheels for smoother faster rides and 75 mm wide 650B 
wheels for sandy desert terrain.

~mike

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:10:02 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Mike: curious: why 622 to 584?
>
> In any event, please post photos when you get it back. I've seen a 
> relatively recent fatbike build Chauncey did, with custom integrated rack, 
> and it's very well done.
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Oregon Outback

[Pondero]

Well done, and glad to hear the Hunq performed well.  I know Mark Reimer did 
the Outback on his excellent Atlantis, and apparently it was a bit of 
adventure.  Hopefully, he chime in here on how the Atlantis performed.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

['hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anne,

I skipped the Ortlieb inserts and went to a hardware store and bought some 
clear tubing of the proper diameter for my rack.  This stuff is similar to 
surgical tubing; soft and pliable.  I cut four pieces the appropriate 
length to fit between the cross members of the rack where the pannier will 
attach.  This keeps the tubing from slipping sideways.  I split the tubing 
along the bottom, fit it onto the rack and zip tied it in place.  This has 
worked great fo me but your results may vary.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:59:30 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>
> My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on 
> the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the 
> pannier is noisy in off-road touring. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Saluki on it's way back

[WETH]

Those fenders came out nicely!  You are right about the silky feel of a new 
drivetrain!  Beautiful bike. Congrats!

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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

['hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ortlieb Panniers for me.  Mostly due to their easy on and easy off system.  
I love the romance of a well used saddle bag but it doesn't fit my 
lifestyle at this time.  However, I learned a long time ago to never say 
never.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:44:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
> many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
> the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
> trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
> back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
> is:
>
> *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
> d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
> *of 
> the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*
>
> So: you reasons "pro" for saddlebags, with or without racks;
>
> And your reasons "con" for same.
>
> My two reasons:
>
> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
> I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
> Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
> might as well get max vol.
>
> 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
> big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
> of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.
>
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>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Michael Hechmer]

Patrick, I starting using saddle bags - Carradice Barley most days & Nelson 
when needed during my 13 years as a long haul commuter.  I used and 
continue to use the Carradice SQR system.  For just a minimal amount of 
metal it provides a high degree of stability and absolutely the fastest on 
and off the bike quick release available.  The really big advantage of 
saddle bags comes from having them above the fenders.  I ride a lot of dirt 
roads and when commuting a third of my 30 mile RT was dirt.  It rains 
regularly and unpredictably in Vermont so everything I could have above the 
fenders was a plus for me.  You can stuff a lot of stuff into a Barley and 
never feel the weight behind you.  I didn't like having my macbook in the 
Nelson, but they are a lot lighter now.

We use a small Arkel pannier for every day riding on the tandem and Pat 
uses the same bag on her Betty.  Big panniers are strictly for touring. 
 Now that I'm retiring I never use the Nelson and the Barley rarely gets 
more than a bottle of wine or a few ears of corn in it.

Of course riding in NM is probably very different.

Michael

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:44:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used 
> many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over 
> the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the 
> trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come 
> back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use 
> is:
>
> *Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison 
> d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense 
> *of 
> the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*
>
> So: you reasons "pro" for saddlebags, with or without racks;
>
> And your reasons "con" for same.
>
> My two reasons:
>
> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
> I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
> Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
> might as well get max vol.
>
> 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2 
> big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles 
> of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.
>
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>
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> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
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>
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>  

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 "the high handlebars and the big tires"

You really can't say it any better than that!!

That is a great build! I'm surprised how well the technomic stem worked. 
 My first instinct would have been to use a rise stem but the technomic got 
the bar high enough and it looks so much better than any rise stem.  



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 6:25:15 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> my dad had a yellow bike-boom fuji when i was growing up. then he had 
> nothing for years, until he found my old teenage years beach cruiser after 
> i left home. he has been riding that around, taking it to yosemite, beating 
> the hell out of it for the last 5 or 6 years. it is encrusted with rust 
> from the time (and probably many other times i dont know about)  he thought 
> it would be funny to ride it directly into the ocean. it's had a hard life, 
> and needs to be retired. when i asked him what he likes about it, he said 
> "the high handlebars and the big tires". 
>
> so i figure that i can kill 3 birds with one stone. get him a gift he will 
> use, and get a half bike out of my house, that i probably would never get 
> around to building up, and have something semi respectable to ride when im 
> over there. 
>
> the frame is a 1984 diamondback apex. tange mtb tubing, made in japan. mix 
> of lugged and welded joints. it's a cool frame with all sorts of braze-ons 
> and mounting points. it has an apocalypse-ready spoke holder chainguard, 
> which is 80% of why this bike is still in my possession. og deerhead 
> derailleurs, biopace rings, suntour pedals, and a hard stopping, yet 
> annoying, brake under the chainstay. 
>
> i went as fat as possible with 2.35 fat franks. technomic stem and 
> albatross bars with the cheapo sunrace thumb shifters. a clem rack on the 
> back. he will hate the black brooks professional (so ill likely be selling 
> that soon) but it'll look good when i show the bike to him. 
>
> now i just need to figure out how to convince him that it really should be 
> locked up, and to not fully submerge it in salt water. also might need to 
> figure out a rear mounting kickstand so he doesn't just lay this on the 
> ground everywhere...
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[William deRosset]

>If you want a more expansive style of touring, the bikepacking seatbag 
isn't big enough. 

My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on the 
rack. Those stupid little >inserts fall out or break, and then the pannier 
is noisy in off-road touring. --

Dear Anne,

A bikepacking seatbag, a bikepacking frame bag, and a bikepacking front bag 
just squeaks into (my) ultralight long-distance bikepacking range, but I 
considered a 20lb dry weight heavy back when I fastpacked. I generally use 
a handlebar bag + front panniers on roads, and I've got plenty for 
expansive living in the summertime. I can even just squeak into a Nelson 
Longflap + my 25N+1 bag (my nylon handlebar bag that's 1" taller than a 
Berthoud GB25) in the summer, but don't ask me to drive the great divide 
trail on that setup--not enough water storage for the southern portions, 
and I really want a bug-proof shelter for the northern tier. Way too much 
for a 1200K, though (I fit into a GB 25 pretty handily for that distance on 
roads).

A gumboots engineer's solution for the rattly ortlieb panniers: tape. Yep, 
pad out the rack to the I.D. of the ortlieb mounting hooks. I like flue 
tape, as it is mostly aluminum, and won't creep much due to load, though 
I'm interested in others' solutions here.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:59:30 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> > 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, 
> I've 
> > not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 
> > Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I 
> > might as well get max vol. 
>
> So funny-- I actually made this very test a couple of hours ago. I'm 
> getting ready to do the Great Divide, figuring out what I'll bring and 
> how I'll carry it. I gave up on my homemade saddlebag with the R10 
> rack, after realizing that it just won't carry enough. So I put an Old 
> Man Mountain rack on the bike, and tried putting what I need to bring 
> in my two Ortlieb rear panniers, and finding it fit easily. Great. So 
> then I thought, well maybe the Large Saddlesack would be better. So I 
> took the stuff (tent, water filter, jacket, sweater, MUSA pants, two 
> bike shorts, towel & soap, one baggy shorts, food bag, and there might 
> be some more stuff) and tried to put it in the Large Saddlesack, and 
> it didn't fit. So there you have it. Ortlieb panniers hold more. 
>
> Now, as to why I'd uses the Large Saddlesack-- it's easier to load and 
> unload. I love my Large Saddlesack on my around-town bike. It's easier 
> to stuff things in, and then find them again when I need them. 
>
> People who use the Revelate-style bikepacking seat bags love them 
> because there is no rack to break, and no panniers to be noisy. The 
> whole thing is light and simple. All of which is true, but those seat 
> bags don't hold very much. If you want a more expansive style of 
> touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough. 
>
> My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on 
> the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the 
> pannier is noisy in off-road touring. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Tim Gavin]

Anne-

There are two sizes of inserts for the Orlieb clips; ensure you're using
the ones that fit your rack tubing.  One size fits the Nitto rack on my Riv
perfectly, the other size fits the Tubus on my KOM.

As for the rattle; I added a rubber spacer to the rack to make the bottom
more secure (I wrapped an innertube scrap and secured it with a zip tie). I
positioned the bottom clip near the rear corner of the rack, and put the
spacer near the front corner.  That makes the pannier secure at four
corners.

Tim


> My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on
> the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the
> pannier is noisy in off-road touring.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Visting Portland

[hsmitham]

I'd suggest riding the Springwater MUP, maybe hit the Rail Road Museum close to 
the end of the Northern end of the Springwater. Another stop is OMSI also off 
the Springwater and I personally think Forest Park is a must! Maybe climb 
Tabor. And I love riding to Cartlandia in SE. So many things to do, hopefully 
some locals will chime in. Have a wonderful time. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
> My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
> and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
> enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of having 
> my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
> 
> Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
> Velo Cult. 
> 
> Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Saluki on it's way back

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Dave, Shoji, Erl and Steve!



First commute on the re-built Saluki this morning went great. Glorious 
weather, a warm afternoon but I had a late work release anyway.  The bike 
did great, the fenders and Bruce Gordon racks were flawless.  I'm pretty 
stoked about the build and bummed I won't be able to ride in the next two 
days. Friday here I come!

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/05/back-in-saddle.html




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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

['hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow, I've ridden bicycles all my life and have never replaced a headset and 
rarely service them.  My 2012 Hillborne has the original headset with 
12,000+ miles and I haven't even checked it.  I had planned on servicing it 
this summer though. What do you think causes the rapid failure of yours?  
Do you do a lot of offoading and/or stream crossings without fenders?  Ride 
in a lot of rain without fenders?  I'm curious.  If this is the case, I'm 
also curious to know if the general consensus is that sealed cartridge 
bearings would alleviate headset deterioration for those riding in extreme 
conditions without fenders.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
> be appreciated!.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Tim Gavin]

I prefer panniers for the reasons you stated, and because the quick release
systems for panniers are more reliable and less expensive than those for
saddlebags.
I have a pair of Vaude panniers with the Ortlieb system. They're secure,
and easy to remove with one hand.


>
> My two reasons:
>
> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well,
> I've not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
> Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
> might as well get max vol.
>
> 2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2
> big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles
> of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Anne Paulson]

I'm planning to go more or less the speed of the book, so ~70 riding
days and ~12 rest days. I won't slavishly follow the book, because I'm
incapable of being ordered around by books. But I expect I'll go about
that speed.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:54 PM, hsmitham  wrote:
> Anne,
>
> I'm  with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've 
> found that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. 
> That foam pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere,  
> just not really compressible. These days I like super compression to save on 
> space.
>
> Your doing the entire divide? How long are you taking?
>
> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Anne Paulson]

I have had two Big Agnes pads. In both cases, they worked just great
until one morning when I woke up and I was sleeping on the ground.
Others have reported the same thing-- eventually they leak, unfixably.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:16 PM, John Bennett  wrote:
> Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits
> into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic!
>
> https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first
>> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there and
>> see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im
>> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've blocked
>> out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling the
>> pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be interested
>> in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have some
>> time, and i like thinking about it.
>>
>> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini
>> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open
>> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler.
>>
>> rear rack/camper bag
>>
>> tent
>>
>> sleeping bag/pad
>>
>> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging
>> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>>
>> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>>
>> lock
>>
>> towel
>>
>> camera
>>
>> tools/maintenance
>>
>> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>>
>> multi tool
>>
>> crescent wrench
>>
>> pump
>>
>>
>> front panniers
>>
>> 5 t-shirts
>>
>> overshirt
>>
>> 2 musa or musa-like pants
>>
>> 2 shorts
>>
>> underwear/socks
>>
>> rain jacket
>>
>> packable down jacket
>>
>> sandals
>>
>> toiletries
>>
>> chargers/ipod nano
>>
>>
>>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list,
>> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside
>> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what
>> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff
>> strapped to their bikes.
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Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback

[Anne Paulson]

Fantastic! There were some other people on this group who said they
were going to do the Outback. I hope we hear from more of them.

(Oh. Yeah. I said I was going to do it. My friend wimped out, so I
didn't go. Next year.)

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Brian Hanson  wrote:
> I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
> hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
> the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots of 
> gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock 
> solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never felt 
> under biked. Kudos to the 2.1" Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the first 
> day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. No 
> problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics in the 
> next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an Atlantis on 
> the ride.
>
> P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and they 
> kept my water bottles usable.
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
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Re: [RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Anne Paulson]

> 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, I've
> not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
> Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
> might as well get max vol.

So funny-- I actually made this very test a couple of hours ago. I'm
getting ready to do the Great Divide, figuring out what I'll bring and
how I'll carry it. I gave up on my homemade saddlebag with the R10
rack, after realizing that it just won't carry enough. So I put an Old
Man Mountain rack on the bike, and tried putting what I need to bring
in my two Ortlieb rear panniers, and finding it fit easily. Great. So
then I thought, well maybe the Large Saddlesack would be better. So I
took the stuff (tent, water filter, jacket, sweater, MUSA pants, two
bike shorts, towel & soap, one baggy shorts, food bag, and there might
be some more stuff) and tried to put it in the Large Saddlesack, and
it didn't fit. So there you have it. Ortlieb panniers hold more.

Now, as to why I'd uses the Large Saddlesack-- it's easier to load and
unload. I love my Large Saddlesack on my around-town bike. It's easier
to stuff things in, and then find them again when I need them.

People who use the Revelate-style bikepacking seat bags love them
because there is no rack to break, and no panniers to be noisy. The
whole thing is light and simple. All of which is true, but those seat
bags don't hold very much. If you want a more expansive style of
touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough.

My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on
the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the
pannier is noisy in off-road touring.

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[RBW] Curious: saddle bags versus panniers?

[Patrick Moore]

I know many of y'all swear by big saddlebags, supported or not. I've used
many if not most of the various large (Nelson upward) saddlebags made over
the last 20 years, and though I really like them (I loved the Hoss on the
trike and the Sackville Medium on the Curt) I always, always, always come
back to a rack and panniers. In fact, my first principle of saddlebag use
is:

*Thou shalt not use a rack, the absence of rack being the very *raison
d'etre, purpose, advantage, benefit, and finality-in-the-Aristotelian-sense *of
the saddlebag; but thou mayest use a support.*

So: you reasons "pro" for saddlebags, with or without racks;

And your reasons "con" for same.

My two reasons:

1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, I've
not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2
Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I
might as well get max vol.

2. Rack/panniers are flexible: None; 1 small; 2 small; 1 small + 1 big; 2
big. Not to mention the various patterns, colors, shapes, sizes, and styles
of pannier I can attach or forgo attaching.

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

[Wayne Naha]

He is a lucky man!  Good job on the build!

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:25:15 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[Deacon Patrick]

Beautiful shots as always! I too love that gate squeezing shot. It puts the 
mash in Mashley!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:25:32 AM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> The lady-friend writes.
> We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
> made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
> all my extra "luggage" on our bike!
>
> Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
>
>
> Mashley 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[hsmitham]

Manny,

As always you impress me with your can do attitude. How awesome to have aa 
banjo to listen to.

You may want to have some extra steel brazed on that front down tube 😄 We know 
how you like to break things especially with your penchant towards front 
loading 😯

Thanks for the share. Gonna get the wife on a tandem this Summer. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh




On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
> The lady-friend writes.
> We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, made 
> s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit all my 
> extra "luggage" on our bike!
> 
> 
> Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mashley 

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome! I look forward to your write up and photos! Mud contains 
probiotics and it good for your water bottles! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:13:43 PM UTC-6, stonehog wrote:
>
> I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a 
> hodgepodge of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry 
> the often times large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots 
> of gravel roads, I am happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was 
> rock solid.  There were 40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never 
> felt under biked. Kudos to the 2.1" Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the 
> first day, but a little air and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. 
> No problem for the next 300 miles. I will get a better write up with pics 
> in the next few days. No other Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an 
> Atlantis on the ride. 
>
> P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and 
> they kept my water bottles usable. 
>
> Brian Hanson 
> Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

You got my wheels turning now. That really turned out nice..
>
I have a 93 Apex sitting on my trainer 7 speed,1-1/8 threadless headset.
You have given me some great ideas.
Thanks for sharing.
Jon

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[RBW] Oregon Outback

[Brian Hanson]

I just finished the Oregon Outback on my 54cm Hunqapillar. I used a hodgepodge 
of bags (Riv Med SaddleSack, Swift Paloma, and Orlieb) to carry the often times 
large loads. After 360 miles of rain, mud, dust, and lots of gravel roads, I am 
happy to report no mechanicals. The Hunqapillar was rock solid.  There were 
40+mph downhills with 30mph wind gusts, and I never felt under biked. Kudos to 
the 2.1" Thunder Burts. I had an almost flat the first day, but a little air 
and spin, and the Stan's sealant did its work. No problem for the next 300 
miles. I will get a better write up with pics in the next few days. No other 
Rivs sighted, but I heard there was an Atlantis on the ride. 

P.S. Thumbs up for fenders. Mine was the only fendered bike I saw, and they 
kept my water bottles usable. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[LBleriot]

I was in the same situation as the OP with my proto Rom in that the trusty 105 
began to notch after X years.   I've used CK and VO headsets on other builds, 
but I gave the IRD needle bearing one from Riv a try.  It installed very nicely 
and once I cleaned the protective grease off and relubed the bearings, the 
handling improved markedly.  I've never experienced shimmy on any of my bikes, 
front loaded 650'ers and featherweight racers, so I can't comment on the impact 
of the needle bearings, but the IRD works a treat.  PS: you might need an extra 
spacer switching from 105 to the IRD given the slight difference in stack 
height. 

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[RBW] Saddlesack medium and VO Porteur rack

[SJB]

I'm always on the lookout for the perfect bag for commuting. I use a VO 
Porteur rack up front and I'm wondering if anyone has used a Saddlesack 
with this rack. The Saddlesack medium seems like it would fit the VO rack 
profile pretty well.

Has anyone done this? And if so, how did it work?

Thanks.

Steve- not a bag matcher, just a bag searcher
Tucson

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[hsmitham]

Anne,

I'm  with you, I too am a side sleeper and a air mattress is a must. I've found 
that if I keep it slightly deflated I get a wonderful night of rest. That foam 
pad looks great! Super lightweight perfect for siting anywhere,  just not 
really compressible. These days I like super compression to save on space.

Your doing the entire divide? How long are you taking? 

~Hugh

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[RBW] WTT -- My Burley Solo trailer with cargo conversion kit, for your something

[Bill Lindsay]

I have a Burley Solo trailer that hasn't left my garage in a long time.  I 
got it in 2001 and I'd love to get it out of my garage.  I do not want to 
ship it.  So, if you are in the SF Bay Area and need a Burley trailer, 
please let me know off-list.  I'll be happy to work something out with you. 
 I'd love to just trade stuff.  I'm open.  I'm thinking the equivalent of 
$100 worth of trade-goods would be just fine.  

The Burley Solo fits one child and has a back area for a bag of groceries. 
 I also invested in the cargo conversion kit.  It's time consuming 
switching it from cargo to kid, but it's nice to have two trailers.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA  

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

[Deacon Patrick]

Beautiful build!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Clem-like Father's Day Build

[Bill Lindsay]

Tremendous looking build.  Well done


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> my dad had a yellow bike-boom fuji when i was growing up. then he had 
> nothing for years, until he found my old teenage years beach cruiser after 
> i left home. he has been riding that around, taking it to yosemite, beating 
> the hell out of it for the last 5 or 6 years. it is encrusted with rust 
> from the time (and probably many other times i dont know about)  he thought 
> it would be funny to ride it directly into the ocean. it's had a hard life, 
> and needs to be retired. when i asked him what he likes about it, he said 
> "the high handlebars and the big tires". 
>
> so i figure that i can kill 3 birds with one stone. get him a gift he will 
> use, and get a half bike out of my house, that i probably would never get 
> around to building up, and have something semi respectable to ride when im 
> over there. 
>
> the frame is a 1984 diamondback apex. tange mtb tubing, made in japan. mix 
> of lugged and welded joints. it's a cool frame with all sorts of braze-ons 
> and mounting points. it has an apocalypse-ready spoke holder chainguard, 
> which is 80% of why this bike is still in my possession. og deerhead 
> derailleurs, biopace rings, suntour pedals, and a hard stopping, yet 
> annoying, brake under the chainstay. 
>
> i went as fat as possible with 2.35 fat franks. technomic stem and 
> albatross bars with the cheapo sunrace thumb shifters. a clem rack on the 
> back. he will hate the black brooks professional (so ill likely be selling 
> that soon) but it'll look good when i show the bike to him. 
>
> now i just need to figure out how to convince him that it really should be 
> locked up, and to not fully submerge it in salt water. also might need to 
> figure out a rear mounting kickstand so he doesn't just lay this on the 
> ground everywhere...
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Clem-like Father's Day Build

[drew]

my dad had a yellow bike-boom fuji when i was growing up. then he had 
nothing for years, until he found my old teenage years beach cruiser after 
i left home. he has been riding that around, taking it to yosemite, beating 
the hell out of it for the last 5 or 6 years. it is encrusted with rust 
from the time (and probably many other times i dont know about)  he thought 
it would be funny to ride it directly into the ocean. it's had a hard life, 
and needs to be retired. when i asked him what he likes about it, he said 
"the high handlebars and the big tires". 

so i figure that i can kill 3 birds with one stone. get him a gift he will 
use, and get a half bike out of my house, that i probably would never get 
around to building up, and have something semi respectable to ride when im 
over there. 

the frame is a 1984 diamondback apex. tange mtb tubing, made in japan. mix 
of lugged and welded joints. it's a cool frame with all sorts of braze-ons 
and mounting points. it has an apocalypse-ready spoke holder chainguard, 
which is 80% of why this bike is still in my possession. og deerhead 
derailleurs, biopace rings, suntour pedals, and a hard stopping, yet 
annoying, brake under the chainstay. 

i went as fat as possible with 2.35 fat franks. technomic stem and 
albatross bars with the cheapo sunrace thumb shifters. a clem rack on the 
back. he will hate the black brooks professional (so ill likely be selling 
that soon) but it'll look good when i show the bike to him. 

now i just need to figure out how to convince him that it really should be 
locked up, and to not fully submerge it in salt water. also might need to 
figure out a rear mounting kickstand so he doesn't just lay this on the 
ground everywhere...







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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[John Bennett]

Best sleep system, bar none, is made by Big Agnes. The inflatable pad fits 
into a sleeve integrated in the bag. No more slipping off. Fantastic!

https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/SleepingBags

Cheers,

John

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
> and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
> blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling 
> the pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
> interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
> i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 
>
> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
>
> *rear rack/camper bag*
>
> tent
>
> sleeping bag/pad
>
> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>
> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>
> lock
>
> towel 
>
> camera 
>
> *tools/maintenance *
>
> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>
> multi tool
>
> crescent wrench 
>
> pump
>
>
> *front panniers *
>
> 5 t-shirts
>
> overshirt 
>
> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
>
> 2 shorts
>
> underwear/socks
>
> rain jacket
>
> packable down jacket
>
> sandals
>
> toiletries 
>
> chargers/ipod nano
>
>
>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
> strapped to their bikes. 
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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

[Forrest]

Thanks for the info, everyone. They seem like decent tires. so I will just 
keep and ride them. I've got other spares around to put on if I "tire" of 
them. :-)  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:22:47 AM UTC-5, Forrest wrote:
>
> Is anyone familiar with Rubena tires, especially the Flash model? They 
> came on a Sam Hillborne I just purchased new directly from RBW, although 
> the invoice/description spec'd Schwalbe Marathon Greens. (I was a little 
> surprised by the switch, but sometimes I'm not good at reading all 
> pertinent text in material involving transactions.) They seem like decent 
> tires, but I'm just not familiar with them. Probably everyone else on this 
> group is, though. Thanks.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[drew]

we got a friend of mine one of those fancy REI chairs. it's pretty cool, 
and youll be the hero of any camp out if you have an extra chair or can 
roll a large rock well. ill probably just use my z-lite sleeping pad on 
this trip though. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Deacon Patrick]

Nobody old rides the Great Divide MTB. Grin. I imagine side sleepers are 
allowed, though I have no idea what that has to do with foam v inflatable. 
Grin. I am delighted you know what works for you!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:43:23 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I'm old, and a side sleeper. No foam for me. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

I hate to hear that.
Hunt that person down like the rat they are.
You know all this but leave flyers or e-mail pics to bike shops, pawn shops 
and keep an eye out on Craigslist, e-bay.
I feel your pain...I hope you get it back.

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Anne Paulson]

I'm old, and a side sleeper. No foam for me.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> Ahhh. Got it. Is there a benefit for you of an air mattress over a foam?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:05:57 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> My sleeping pad is an air mattress. I don't want to expose it to the
>> bare ground because it could get punctured. The beauty of that little
>> z-pad is that it's tough enough to stand some abuse.
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Re: [RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Steve Palincsar]

On 05/26/2015 06:22 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Speaking of Prestige, this caught my eye and took away my breath. A 
fool and his money etc etc.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Vintage-Simplex-Prestige-Delrin-Road-Bike-Front-Derailleur-/111080032931



Holy crap!


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[RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Mark,
I haven't had my Sam a year yet and most of my friends ( club riders/ ) 
knew I got a new Sam . When they saw it in person most of the comments 
were. ."How much does it weigh?"
A friend who works at LBS  and familiar with Rivendel saw it and said "Way 
cool" . 
I get a lot of looks of course without comment.
Jon

>
>
>
>
>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Patrick Moore]

Speaking of Prestige, this caught my eye and took away my breath. A fool
and his money etc etc.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Vintage-Simplex-Prestige-Delrin-Road-Bike-Front-Derailleur-/111080032931

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> It's rather sad that so many new (ie, who came to the sport only post
> late-'80s) cyclists will never know the mixed blessings of dt shifters,
> friction shifting, clips 'n' straps 'n' slotted cleats. Of course, there
> was all sorts of cycling bullshite way back even before I started --
> ankling; "tired" frames; no socks because that interfered with the
> exquisitely perfect fit of the cycling shoe; etc etc etc; but it's too bad
> that the young'uns grow up knowing only indexingk 10+ speeds, and crabon
> fibre'. At the very least, one appreciates clipless pedals after one has
> worn slotted cleats on a mountain bike. (The next evolutionary shelf seems
> to be, no retention.)
>
> Still, there is much in the old ways and old kit that is worth keeping --
> such as down tube shifters, and not shifting so goddam often.
>
> I started being "serious" about bikes -- that is, thinking of myself as a
> "cyclist" (instead of the Rivendellian ideal of "just riding") and learning
> eagerly from the "pro's", and building my own bikes from frame + parts, at
> about age 15 (1970); just about when Eddy was starting his meteoric rise.
> I'm very glad to have used the best of both worlds.
>
> Still, "your right arm must get a workout" is a particularly ignorant
> comment!
>
> Patrick Moore, who shifted thousands of trouble free miles with Delrin
> Prestige in and around Nairobi, Kenya.
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, William deRosset 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I liked that one even more than, "Wow, your right arm must get a
>> workout." (I was riding a bike with downtube shifters.)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Will
>> William M. deRosset
>> Fort Collins, CO
>>
>>


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Re: [RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Patrick Moore]

It's rather sad that so many new (ie, who came to the sport only post
late-'80s) cyclists will never know the mixed blessings of dt shifters,
friction shifting, clips 'n' straps 'n' slotted cleats. Of course, there
was all sorts of cycling bullshite way back even before I started --
ankling; "tired" frames; no socks because that interfered with the
exquisitely perfect fit of the cycling shoe; etc etc etc; but it's too bad
that the young'uns grow up knowing only indexingk 10+ speeds, and crabon
fibre'. At the very least, one appreciates clipless pedals after one has
worn slotted cleats on a mountain bike. (The next evolutionary shelf seems
to be, no retention.)

Still, there is much in the old ways and old kit that is worth keeping --
such as down tube shifters, and not shifting so goddam often.

I started being "serious" about bikes -- that is, thinking of myself as a
"cyclist" (instead of the Rivendellian ideal of "just riding") and learning
eagerly from the "pro's", and building my own bikes from frame + parts, at
about age 15 (1970); just about when Eddy was starting his meteoric rise.
I'm very glad to have used the best of both worlds.

Still, "your right arm must get a workout" is a particularly ignorant
comment!

Patrick Moore, who shifted thousands of trouble free miles with Delrin
Prestige in and around Nairobi, Kenya.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, William deRosset 
wrote:

>
>
> I liked that one even more than, "Wow, your right arm must get a workout."
> (I was riding a bike with downtube shifters.)
>
> Best,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Deacon Patrick]

Ahhh. Got it. Is there a benefit for you of an air mattress over a foam?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 4:05:57 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> My sleeping pad is an air mattress. I don't want to expose it to the 
> bare ground because it could get punctured. The beauty of that little 
> z-pad is that it's tough enough to stand some abuse. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Anne Paulson]

My sleeping pad is an air mattress. I don't want to expose it to the
bare ground because it could get punctured. The beauty of that little
z-pad is that it's tough enough to stand some abuse.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> Anne, are you not taking a sleeping pad? If I use a pad to sit on (I usually
> don't) I just use my sleeping pad (a cut-down Thermarest Ridge foam like
> that).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad:
>>
>> http://www.rei.com/product/829881/therm-a-rest-z-seat-pad?cm_mmc=cse_PLA-_-pla_multichannel-_-8298810001&mr:trackingCode=8338A8F1-E449-E111-BC1B-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla_multichannelonline&mr:ad=52774012000&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=126983827960&msid=ovjLvtDz_dc|pcrid|52774012000|&lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA#tab-specs
>>
>> Now that I've decided to use rear rack and panniers for my Divide trip
>> (starts next month, yikes) I have somewhere to strap that little 2 oz
>> pad. It would be so very handy.
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Neil  wrote:
>> > Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes,
>> > but
>> > preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp.
>> >
>> > Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although
>> > it
>> > wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of
>> > my
>> > puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer
>> > over
>> > a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon.
>> >
>> > Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great
>> > luck
>> > burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag
>> > deep in
>> > a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of
>> > Oregon. Cans R better, of course.
>> >
>> > Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his
>> > backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the
>> > older
>> > Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is
>> > negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like
>> > a
>> > large Nalgene bottle).
>> >
>> > I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with
>> > picnic
>> > tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he
>> > is
>> > off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the
>> > options
>> > are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair.
>> >
>> > Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast!
>> >
>> > On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>> >>
>> >> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first
>> >> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out
>> >> there and
>> >> see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im
>> >> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've
>> >> blocked
>> >> out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling the
>> >> pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be
>> >> interested
>> >> in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have
>> >> some
>> >> time, and i like thinking about it.
>> >>
>> >> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd
>> >> mini
>> >> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave
>> >> open
>> >> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler.
>> >>
>> >> rear rack/camper bag
>> >>
>> >> tent
>> >>
>> >> sleeping bag/pad
>> >>
>> >> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging
>> >> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>> >>
>> >> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>> >>
>> >> lock
>> >>
>> >> towel
>> >>
>> >> camera
>> >>
>> >> tools/maintenance
>> >>
>> >> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>> >>
>> >> multi tool
>> >>
>> >> crescent wrench
>> >>
>> >> pump
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> front panniers
>> >>
>> >> 5 t-shirts
>> >>
>> >> overshirt
>> >>
>> >> 2 musa or musa-like pants
>> >>
>> >> 2 shorts
>> >>
>> >> underwear/socks
>> >>
>> >> rain jacket
>> >>
>> >> packable down jacket
>> >>
>> >> sandals
>> >>
>> >> toiletries
>> >>
>> >> chargers/ipod nano
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o
>> >> list,
>> >> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside
>> >> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what
>> >> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff
>> >> strapped to their bikes.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Deacon Patrick]

Anne, are you not taking a sleeping pad? If I use a pad to sit on (I 
usually don't) I just use my sleeping pad (a cut-down Thermarest Ridge foam 
like that).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 3:40:13 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad: 
>
> http://www.rei.com/product/829881/therm-a-rest-z-seat-pad?cm_mmc=cse_PLA-_-pla_multichannel-_-8298810001&mr:trackingCode=8338A8F1-E449-E111-BC1B-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla_multichannelonline&mr:ad=52774012000&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=126983827960&msid=ovjLvtDz_dc|pcrid|52774012000|&lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA#tab-specs
>  
>
> Now that I've decided to use rear rack and panniers for my Divide trip 
> (starts next month, yikes) I have somewhere to strap that little 2 oz 
> pad. It would be so very handy. 
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Neil > 
> wrote: 
> > Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, 
> but 
> > preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp. 
> > 
> > Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although 
> it 
> > wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of 
> my 
> > puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer 
> over 
> > a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon. 
> > 
> > Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great 
> luck 
> > burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag 
> deep in 
> > a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of 
> > Oregon. Cans R better, of course. 
> > 
> > Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his 
> > backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the 
> older 
> > Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is 
> > negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like 
> a 
> > large Nalgene bottle). 
> > 
> > I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with 
> picnic 
> > tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he 
> is 
> > off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the 
> options 
> > are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair. 
> > 
> > Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast! 
> > 
> > On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: 
> >> 
> >> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
> >> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out 
> there and 
> >> see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
> >> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
> blocked 
> >> out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling the 
> >> pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
> interested 
> >> in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have 
> some 
> >> time, and i like thinking about it. 
> >> 
> >> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd 
> mini 
> >> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave 
> open 
> >> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
> >> 
> >> rear rack/camper bag 
> >> 
> >> tent 
> >> 
> >> sleeping bag/pad 
> >> 
> >> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
> >> capability, but it's pretty heavy) 
> >> 
> >> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff 
> >> 
> >> lock 
> >> 
> >> towel 
> >> 
> >> camera 
> >> 
> >> tools/maintenance 
> >> 
> >> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit 
> >> 
> >> multi tool 
> >> 
> >> crescent wrench 
> >> 
> >> pump 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> front panniers 
> >> 
> >> 5 t-shirts 
> >> 
> >> overshirt 
> >> 
> >> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
> >> 
> >> 2 shorts 
> >> 
> >> underwear/socks 
> >> 
> >> rain jacket 
> >> 
> >> packable down jacket 
> >> 
> >> sandals 
> >> 
> >> toiletries 
> >> 
> >> chargers/ipod nano 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o 
> list, 
> >> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
> >> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
> >> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
> >> strapped to their bikes. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Anne Paulson]

I'm taking longing looks at this sitting pad:
http://www.rei.com/product/829881/therm-a-rest-z-seat-pad?cm_mmc=cse_PLA-_-pla_multichannel-_-8298810001&mr:trackingCode=8338A8F1-E449-E111-BC1B-001B21631C34&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=pla_multichannelonline&mr:ad=52774012000&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:filter=126983827960&msid=ovjLvtDz_dc|pcrid|52774012000|&lsft=cm_mmc:cse_PLA#tab-specs

Now that I've decided to use rear rack and panniers for my Divide trip
(starts next month, yikes) I have somewhere to strap that little 2 oz
pad. It would be so very handy.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Neil  wrote:
> Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, but
> preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp.
>
> Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although it
> wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of my
> puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer over
> a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon.
>
> Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great luck
> burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag deep in
> a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of
> Oregon. Cans R better, of course.
>
> Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his
> backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the older
> Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is
> negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like a
> large Nalgene bottle).
>
> I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with picnic
> tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he is
> off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the options
> are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair.
>
> Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast!
>
> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first
>> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there and
>> see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im
>> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've blocked
>> out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling the
>> pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be interested
>> in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but i have some
>> time, and i like thinking about it.
>>
>> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini
>> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open
>> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler.
>>
>> rear rack/camper bag
>>
>> tent
>>
>> sleeping bag/pad
>>
>> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging
>> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>>
>> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>>
>> lock
>>
>> towel
>>
>> camera
>>
>> tools/maintenance
>>
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>> multi tool
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>> crescent wrench
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>> sandals
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>> toiletries
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>> chargers/ipod nano
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>>
>>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list,
>> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside
>> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what
>> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff
>> strapped to their bikes.
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[RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[William deRosset]

Dear Marc,

Three weekends ago, on my first 300K ride with the club in a couple of 
years, "Wow, you updated a vintage bike. Who did the repaint? Where/when 
was it built?"

"Well, the frame was built in Wisconsin for me in early April, and the 
parts are mostly from the pile of stuff I collect in my shed. I did have to 
machine a new compression cap for the steerer-mounted light switch." That 
seemed to steer the conversation on the club ride either to how fit I must 
be to keep up on a 'heavy' bike (sandbagging ensues, but I've got nothing 
to back it up besides bronchitis and a lingering shoulder separation), into 
deep bike geekery, or on to the probability of rain/headwinds (my preferred 
outcome).

https://goo.gl/JYIho9

I've gotten one comment that bugged me (until it was hilarious):

"Is that a rental?"

"Yeah, nothing handles like one, either."

I liked that one even more than, "Wow, your right arm must get a workout." 
(I was riding a bike with downtube shifters.)

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 12:49:44 PM UTC-6, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>   That is a reoccurring question I hear when out among bike enthusiasts.   
> Nobody cares about the production date or  from which batch it may have 
> come.
> People are always asking me how old it is.  They never ask that about the 
> Hunqapillar, just the Hillborne.  Some are surprised when I tell them it's 
> only 3 years old or so, but many just don't believe me.  Some have even 
> corrected me with, "No, that's an English brand.  A friend of mine had one 
> in the '70's."  They will argue, pretending to know some deep secret about 
> the lug work that "*They* just don't make 'em like that anymore."  When I 
> try to explain who *They* are, I'm ignored and, being the true 
> enthusiasts, they continue to compliment my "find" and they way I've built 
> it up with modern components.   It's happened a few times now.   Is it just 
> me, or has this happened to anybody else?
>
>
> 
> Marc
>

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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[dougP]

After seen the photos attached to Manny's post "Mashley S24O Half Moon 
Bay", I withdraw my previous suggestion about leaving behind the down 
jacket.  Those pix have got me thinking maybe I need one.

dougP

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
> and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
> blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling 
> the pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
> interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
> i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 
>
> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
>
> *rear rack/camper bag*
>
> tent
>
> sleeping bag/pad
>
> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>
> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>
> lock
>
> towel 
>
> camera 
>
> *tools/maintenance *
>
> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>
> multi tool
>
> crescent wrench 
>
> pump
>
>
> *front panniers *
>
> 5 t-shirts
>
> overshirt 
>
> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
>
> 2 shorts
>
> underwear/socks
>
> rain jacket
>
> packable down jacket
>
> sandals
>
> toiletries 
>
> chargers/ipod nano
>
>
>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
> strapped to their bikes. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: SaddleSack, Large, Olive

[Deacon Patrick]

Price drop to $180 w/ shipping CONUS.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 12:10:07 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> For sale is a large Olive Saddle Sack. $200 w/ shipping CONUS via PayPal 
> to this email. Condition is well loved and in perfect working order. All 
> leather is oiled, supple, broken in. The bag has beausage, so consider it 
> pre-broken in. Still completely waterproof (as sponge cleaning just 
> verified) and easy to clean (as sponge cleaning just verified).
>
> Photos in use:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17353501244/in/dateposted-public/
> and
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17353499714/in/dateposted-public/
>
> If this is so beloved, why sell? I learned on yesterday’s ride, shown in 
> the photos above) that that much weight on top of the rack is problematic 
> for my vertigo and clearly contributed to my loss of brain energy on 
> bikepacking trips in the past two years. So I am using panniers now.
>
> Please email off group with inquiries. Thank you!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Mike Shaljian]

It would seem like the Schwalbe 'Rock Razor' might be a good model to try for 
dirt touring 
(http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/off-road_tires/Rock_Razor). . .

I've been searching for the perfect medium-duty touring tire as well. I have 
helped a friend setup some Super Motos as tubeless on her 29+ bike and am going 
to do the same on mine, in order to have a "go faster" wheelset along with my 
3" Chupacabras. The trouble with the Lite-Skin Super Motos is that the sidewall 
is very leaky and the tires don't have a TL-Easy/Ready bead. Hers seem to be 
starting to hold pressure after a week of fussing. 

Due to the leaky nature of Super Motos, I've considered the option of getting 
some Rock Razors and sanding off the nubs to have a TL-Ready, 2.35" tire that 
would be fit for lighter touring and fast gravel/paved road rides. If this was 
going to be your main loaded dirt touring tire the nubs would obviously help! 

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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[Bill Lindsay]

Manny

That is very very rad.  Did you just roll in to a hiker-biker site?  Or did 
you need to reserve a site?

Bill


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> The lady-friend writes.
> We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
> made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
> all my extra "luggage" on our bike!
>
> Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
>
>
> Mashley 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Will]

Well... your alternative is to whip out the cell phone, snag the Riv site 
and prove the "newness".

Problem is: future FIL will do the math and come up with $4000. 

That may or may not be what you want. :-)

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Ha ha.  i had an in depth conversation with the fiancee's dad, regarding 
> my hunqapillar, where he kept telling me that my bike was in amazing 
> condition and that he used to have bikes like mine years ago.  i must have 
> told him it was new 7 or 8 times and each time he just ignored me or 
> reassured me that i had done a great job restoring it. "no,no this is a new 
> bike." "it does look new. you did a great job. and you were able to find 
> new components that would work on it?"
>

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[RBW] Re: Lots of reconfiguration, resulting in three handlebar tape jobs this weekend.

[Bill Lindsay]

Micheal

Yes, those are White VBC cranks. 44/30.  

I did get out yesterday for a quick ride.  I have a little 20 mile out and 
back that includes about 1000ft of climbing.  Bombing down Wildcat Canyon 
road, I was impressed at how powerful the 40+ year old M.A.F.A.C. Racers 
are (koolstop inserts, natch).  The stock levers are a bit of a reach from 
the hooks but I can get used to that I suppose.  Maybe I'll make a reach 
adjuster.  The fronts howled like a banshee when I rode the bike around the 
block, but already they are quieting down, consistent with what Jan has 
said about these brakes.  The toe-in was dead flat.  The rears are silent, 
thusfar.  I'm shocked at the braking power given the waif-like minimalism 
of the forged arms.  I expect Paul Racers and Racer-Ms to be powerful 
because they look so burly and industrial.  

Anyway, so far so good.  No shimmy to speak of.  Did it plane?  I guess so. 
 Haha.  

On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 4:48:52 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> That's so much bike building I'd almost think it must be raining in the 
> East Bay.  A very nice mix of old and new.  Are those the White VBC cranks? 
>  I'll be interested to read how the brakes live up to their reputation. 
>  Personally, starting from scratch (and at 70 that's not likely to happen) 
>  I'd go with good cants.  I have both Paul's posted Racers (on the tandem) 
> and Racer Ms (on the Ram) and they are both great brakes, but on balance I 
> find my Neo Retros the easiest to live with - best tire/fender clearance, 
> stopping power & moderation.
>
> Michael
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 6:56:12 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I did a new build, another Rawland.  This time it's a Nordavinden, their 
>> 700c road bike offering.  I had centerpull posts installed and built it up 
>> as a modernish Jan Heine special.  Here's THE BUILD 
>> .  And here is 
>> the tape-job, IN PROGRESS 
>> .
>>   
>> The fun thing about this tape-job, is that the classic M.A.F.A.C. levers 
>> have no hoods, so you tape the bars with the levers off, and install them 
>> afterwards over the top.  It's kind of fun.  
>>
>> My other road bike, a Black Mountain, donated several parts to the 
>> Rawland.  So, now the somewhat reconfigured Black Mountain needed a tape 
>> job.  It was my first time to use the newish Newbaums Khaki
>>
>> HERE SHE IS 
>> 
>>
>> I also decided to add red Newbaums to my Bosco Bullmooses.  The first 
>> coat of shellac is DRYING 
>> .
>>   
>> I'm also trying out the thumbshifters way up front, partially to get the 
>> housing out of the way of my basket.  
>>
>> Enjoy your weekend!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: sf-la coast tour thoughts and preparation

[Neil]

Good start to your list. I also think you are bringing too many clothes, 
but preferences matter. Yes, add a headlamp.

Just got back from 3 nights through southern Humboldt Co., and although it 
wasn't necessary, I greatly appreciated the luxury and instant warmth of my 
puffy coat. Oh-so-nice at the end of the day to have this single layer over 
a cotton t-shirt rather than layers of wool and nylon.

Also, regarding transport of cooler-type items...I've always had great luck 
burying beer, cheese, meat, etc. in my down coat and/or sleeping bag deep 
in a pannier. Beer keeps cold all day, even through the late-summer heat of 
Oregon. Cans R better, of course.

Oh, one other consideration...my buddy insists on bringing his 
backpacking-type camp chair on bike overnights. This isn't one of the older 
Thermarest-style ones, but a modern one from REI with legs. Weight is 
negligible to me, I think less than a pound, but is slightly bulky (like a 
large Nalgene bottle).

I feel this item is overkill if you are in developed campgounds with picnic 
tables, and yet I always find myself stealing time in his chair while he is 
off doing camp chores. For bandit camping with no facilities, if the 
options are sitting on the ground or on a chair, I would bring this chair.

Have fun on your trip, sounds like a blast!

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 11:55:19 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> so ill be riding from SF-LA in a couple of weeks. this will be my first 
> tour lasting more than a few days, so i wanted to put my plans out there 
> and see if there is anything i should reconsider or any glaring holes im 
> missing, or anything i still need to buy, while there is time.  i've 
> blocked out 8 days. gonna try to camp only. im mostly following "bicycling 
> the pacific coast", but if there are preferable route options, i'd be 
> interested in those too. i know people do this without any preparation, but 
> i have some time, and i like thinking about it. 
>
> taking my hunqapillar with a carradice camper, acorn tool roll, jandd mini 
> mountain panniers on the front, and a basket that i'm trying to leave open 
> for food and incedentals along the way, maybe with a soft sided cooler. 
>
> *rear rack/camper bag*
>
> tent
>
> sleeping bag/pad
>
> alcohol stove (considering bringing my biolite stove for the charging 
> capability, but it's pretty heavy)
>
> bowl/utensils/matches/cooking stuff
>
> lock
>
> towel 
>
> camera 
>
> *tools/maintenance *
>
> 2 tubes, levers and patch kit
>
> multi tool
>
> crescent wrench 
>
> pump
>
>
> *front panniers *
>
> 5 t-shirts
>
> overshirt 
>
> 2 musa or musa-like pants 
>
> 2 shorts
>
> underwear/socks
>
> rain jacket
>
> packable down jacket
>
> sandals
>
> toiletries 
>
> chargers/ipod nano
>
>
>  i put this list together, and it is basically the same as my s24o list, 
> but with more clothes. im especially interested in what things beside 
> clothes, i should be adding for a longer trip. also interested in what 
> people do for security while going through cities with a lot of stuff 
> strapped to their bikes. 
>  
>
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[dougP]

Hey, there's an open lower triangle on the stoker spot that would take a 
frame bag.  That would let you carry even more stuff.  Love the shot of 
bike stuck in the gate.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> The lady-friend writes.
> We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, 
> made s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit 
> all my extra "luggage" on our bike!
>
> Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A
>
>
> Mashley 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[dougP]

My LBS installed an IRD roller bearing headset on my Atlantis.  The removal 
of the old one & installation of the IRD was routine.  I watched & no 
unusual measures were needed.  I adjusted it myself to get it "just right" 
& it's been trouble free & smooth since installation.  Don't recall when it 
was but Rivendell had just started promoting them at the time.  

dougP

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:44:27 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
> be appreciated!.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: "03 Curt Goodrich Riv custom out for life-altering surgery.

[Patrick Moore]

Mike: curious: why 622 to 584?

In any event, please post photos when you get it back. I've seen a
relatively recent fatbike build Chauncey did, with custom integrated rack,
and it's very well done.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Mike Schiller 
wrote:

> hopefully he's almost finished with the mods to my 29er to 650B+
> conversion.
>
> No wet paint and cream headtube?
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[Evan E.]

One day, at a stop light, a roadie glanced over at my Sam and said "That's 
a classic." I suspect he wasn't familiar with the bike and just figured it 
was old. But he said it in a nice way. And hey, he was right: it IS a 
classic.

Evan

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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

[Minh]

gah, always sucky to hear this, check the posts from last week, i think 
someone was selling an 62 SO/QB recently.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:54:45 AM UTC-4, donavanm wrote:
>
> As the subject says, theres another stolen SimpleOne out there now. Last 
> Thursday night I was out at Golden Gardens in Seattle enjoying the sunset 
> with some friends. Bikes were parked ~15 feet away on the beach, which was 
> far enough for someone to make off unnoticed. They kindly left another 
> friends tandem and my helmet plus gloves behind. Already reported to SPD 
> etc, though I have little hope of recovery.
>
> First was my daily commuter, 62CM SimpleOne frame serial M105. At time 
> of theft included black revelate frame bag, black Haulin Colin front rack + 
> wald basket, Supernova light, "Velo Orange" branded SP dynamo hub, salsa 
> delgado rims, silver Paul cantilever brakes, schwalbe little big ben tires. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46199
>
> Second was a friends 1993 XO-2, purple paint, 54cm frame, 
> serial H220098. At time of theft included silver rear rack, white bar tape, 
> salsa 38cm short and shallow drop bars, nitto periscopa stem, bar end 
> shifters, original deore 3x7 drive train, original wheelset. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46200
>
> And now the question, suggestions for a similar single speed frame? The 
> SimpleOne was my favoritist bike, used for daily commuting, shenanigans, 
> and bike camping. Im seriously considering getting a clone custom made, but 
> would like a replacement in a sooner time frame. Are there any production 
> frames with a similar 72.5/72.5 and midlong chainstay geometry? If nothing 
> else I might round up an 80s steel touring frame and throw a SimpleOne fork 
> on it.
>

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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

[Beth H]

I started using Flash tires about three years ago and have been happy with 
them. 
Average 40 to 60 miles a week commuting on these and have had one flat in 
the last year.
They roll fine and are considerably more affordable than the Schwalbe 
Marathons.
I'm using 26 x 1.5's but may go to a 1.75 next time around.
Beth Hamon

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 5:22:47 AM UTC-7, Forrest wrote:
>
> Is anyone familiar with Rubena tires, especially the Flash model?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Garth]

Whatever headset you choose, just make sure you consider the stack height 
you have against any new one.  Any spacers in your stack can help you here 
if it's much larger as they can be replaced or lessened. 

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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

[Garth]

Here is the best info of the many Rubena tire websites  :


http://www.rubena.eu/index.php?stranka=400&scid=8

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Ryan Fleming]

yeah...I was looking and on one site the 2-nut which I have on both Rivs 
and my X0-1 was $145.00. $US. Ouch. Even still, CK has been the most 
trouble-free headset in my experience. I had the Tange Roller Ball on my 
A/R , but I had my local mechanic put in a Chris King. I kept the Roller 
ball and we used it for the X0-1 when the Tange Levin or Falcon (can't 
remember which)  pitted. My dear partner who's a pretty decent mechanic had 
a heck of a time getting the Roller ball to get and keep an adjustment. 
Maybe it just wasn't working for us as I've heard or read from others 
besides Patrick and GP that it's a fine headset. So eventually  the X0-1 
got a CK too We have cannibalized parts from that Roller ball 
 headset...maybe some bits are on my Peugeot. 
 
But CK are the headsets I would swear by and not at. Probably will want 
another one for the Riv mixte I'm contemplating.
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Didn't realize CKs have gone up in price as much as they have. I guess 
> that's because I haven't had to buy one in 14 years :-)
>
> CC make good headsets, I have their A3 models on on my threadless bikes.
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:50:41 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> > While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
>> > Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
>> lower prices.
>>
>> I am a big CK fan.  Cane Creek 110 classic 1" is a very good alternative. 
>>  As with CK, CC is also MUSA.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Bill Lindsay]

Not only that.  Velo Orange sells the cartridge bearings separately and 
they just drop in.  If you wanted to really future proof your headset, you 
could buy a couple replacement bearings right at the start.  

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:24:40 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Marco wrote:
>
> If you want sealed cartridge bearings try the VO Grand Cru 1" threaded 
> headset. Fit and finish were nice and sealed cartridge bearings were 
> smooth. I believe it retails around $50. 
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

[Shawn Granton]

Rubena is a Czech tire manufacturer, as as far as I know, the only 
all-European tire production company. While Schwalbe, Continental, etc. are 
"European" tire companies, much of their production is done in Asia and 
other places, while every Rubena tire is made in the Czech Republic. 
They've been making a push into the North American market in the past few 
years, and Cyclone here in Portland distributes them.

The "Flash" is, for want of a better term, their Marathon equivalent. 
Haven't had a pair, but know others who have and have had no complaints.

I've owned a few of their "City Hoppers", which are a Big Apple equivalent, 
and I've liked them.

yours,
Shawn

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Didn't realize CKs have gone up in price as much as they have. I guess 
that's because I haven't had to buy one in 14 years :-)

CC make good headsets, I have their A3 models on on my threadless bikes.


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>
> > While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
> > Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
> lower prices.
>
> I am a big CK fan.  Cane Creek 110 classic 1" is a very good alternative. 
>  As with CK, CC is also MUSA.
>

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[RBW] Mashley S240: Half Moon Bay

[Manuel Acosta]

The lady-friend writes.
We met some locals, listened to a home-made banjo around the campfire, made 
s'mores and slept by the beach. Also props for figuring out how to fit all 
my extra "luggage" on our bike!

Pictures proved that tandem camping is the best type of camping.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/7m2L0A


Mashley 




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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Jeffrey Marco]

If you want sealed cartridge bearings try the VO Grand Cru 1" threaded 
headset. Fit and finish were nice and sealed cartridge bearings were 
smooth. I believe it retails around $50. 

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:44:27 AM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
> be appreciated!.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[David Hallerman]

And that's why the gods invented editors.


Dave, who has worked as both a writer and an editor in his life and so 
intimately knows both sides of that delicate dance


On 5/26/15 12:52 PM, George Schick wrote:
Heh.  OK, maybe "testimonial" was a poor choice of words.  How about 
"impression of" or "critique?"



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:41:38 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:

Wow, a testimonial with the following points being made:

* Tightening was tricky.
* Doesn't have the "feel" of other headsets.
* Difficult to install upper and lower races.
* Much greater difficulty.
* Chrome stripped off.

Wow, please don't offer a testimonial to this post of mine.

Dave, who reiterates that in general final price is not your real
cost nor your real value in many things not just headsets and adds
that many people here have really really nice bikes so scrimping
doesn't make sense unless money is very tight

On 5/26/15 12:33 PM, George Schick wrote:

This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle
bearing headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet
indexed about 4 years ago so I started looking for replacements.
 I like the Chris King products, but thought I'd give the IRD a
shot, since Grant "sold" the idea of needle bearings for the
lower race.  So far it's worked flawlessly and I do not detect
any of the sluggishness that Grant described on the Riv web page.
 So I'd say give it a try if you want to go in that direction.
 Tightening the headset was tricky; I had to re-tighten it once
or twice after riding for a while because it doesn't seem to have
the "feel" of the bearing movement that ordinary ball-types do.
 But once I got it dialed-in it was OK.

Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it
comes packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.
 Opening everything up and looking at the lower race components
made me think of a miniature version of an automobile front axle
tapered bearing set.  So I had to decide what kind of grease to
use on everything.  I wound up just using the regular Phil grease
and it's worked fine.  Pressing the upper and lower races into
the head tube was one of the most difficult operations.  I had
everything well greased both inside the head tube as well as
around the races, but it went in with much greater difficulty
than any headset I can recall installing.  Not sure why this was.
 In fact, some of the chrome stripped off of the lower race
during the process.  But I finally got it in there OK.  I would
definitely not recommend installing this (or any headset, for
that matter) without a decent installation tool, either like the
one Park makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the
old crown "race" off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever
installed it needs to think hard and long about how to do things
- it was very un-Riv-like.  Instead of sanding off the paint and
primer and then greasing the steering tube, they just hammered on
there over paint and everything, sans grease.  Never do that. It
took lots of hammering with a drift punch.  I'm not sure that
even a bone fide crown race puller would've budged it.  But
that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD itself.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:

I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My
shop says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this
headset, so we switched the bottom cartridge to the top for
now, but  I'm researching a new one. This is the second
headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the
other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm
searching for a replacement that will last.  I've
considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty
expensive and while most reviews are positive there are some
reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also
considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv
site.  Other ideas would be appreciated!.

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[RBW] Re: Stolen SimpleOne and a question

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Sure hope they are able to be recovered. Sorry to read...

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 8:54:45 AM UTC-7, donavanm wrote:
>
> As the subject says, theres another stolen SimpleOne out there now. Last 
> Thursday night I was out at Golden Gardens in Seattle enjoying the sunset 
> with some friends. Bikes were parked ~15 feet away on the beach, which was 
> far enough for someone to make off unnoticed. They kindly left another 
> friends tandem and my helmet plus gloves behind. Already reported to SPD 
> etc, though I have little hope of recovery.
>
> First was my daily commuter, 62CM SimpleOne frame serial M105. At time 
> of theft included black revelate frame bag, black Haulin Colin front rack + 
> wald basket, Supernova light, "Velo Orange" branded SP dynamo hub, salsa 
> delgado rims, silver Paul cantilever brakes, schwalbe little big ben tires. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46199
>
> Second was a friends 1993 XO-2, purple paint, 54cm frame, 
> serial H220098. At time of theft included silver rear rack, white bar tape, 
> salsa 38cm short and shallow drop bars, nitto periscopa stem, bar end 
> shifters, original deore 3x7 drive train, original wheelset. 
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/46200
>
> And now the question, suggestions for a similar single speed frame? The 
> SimpleOne was my favoritist bike, used for daily commuting, shenanigans, 
> and bike camping. Im seriously considering getting a clone custom made, but 
> would like a replacement in a sooner time frame. Are there any production 
> frames with a similar 72.5/72.5 and midlong chainstay geometry? If nothing 
> else I might round up an 80s steel touring frame and throw a SimpleOne fork 
> on it.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[George Schick]

Heh.  OK, maybe "testimonial" was a poor choice of words.  How about 
"impression of" or "critique?"


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 11:41:38 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:
>
>  Wow, a testimonial with the following points being made:
>
> * Tightening was tricky.
> * Doesn't have the "feel" of other headsets.
> * Difficult to install upper and lower races.
> * Much greater difficulty.
> * Chrome stripped off.
>
> Wow, please don't offer a testimonial to this post of mine.
>
> Dave, who reiterates that in general final price is not your real cost 
> nor your real value in many things not just headsets and adds that many 
> people here have really really nice bikes so scrimping doesn't make sense 
> unless money is very tight
>
> On 5/26/15 12:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
>  
> This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle bearing 
> headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet indexed about 4 
> years ago so I started looking for replacements.  I like the Chris King 
> products, but thought I'd give the IRD a shot, since Grant "sold" the idea 
> of needle bearings for the lower race.  So far it's worked flawlessly and I 
> do not detect any of the sluggishness that Grant described on the Riv web 
> page.  So I'd say give it a try if you want to go in that direction. 
>  Tightening the headset was tricky; I had to re-tighten it once or twice 
> after riding for a while because it doesn't seem to have the "feel" of the 
> bearing movement that ordinary ball-types do.  But once I got it dialed-in 
> it was OK. 
>
>  Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it comes 
> packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.  Opening everything up 
> and looking at the lower race components made me think of a miniature 
> version of an automobile front axle tapered bearing set.  So I had to 
> decide what kind of grease to use on everything.  I wound up just using the 
> regular Phil grease and it's worked fine.  Pressing the upper and lower 
> races into the head tube was one of the most difficult operations.  I had 
> everything well greased both inside the head tube as well as around the 
> races, but it went in with much greater difficulty than any headset I can 
> recall installing.  Not sure why this was.  In fact, some of the chrome 
> stripped off of the lower race during the process.  But I finally got it in 
> there OK.  I would definitely not recommend installing this (or any 
> headset, for that matter) without a decent installation tool, either like 
> the one Park makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the old 
> crown "race" off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever installed it 
> needs to think hard and long about how to do things - it was very 
> un-Riv-like.  Instead of sanding off the paint and primer and then greasing 
> the steering tube, they just hammered on there over paint and everything, 
> sans grease.  Never do that. It took lots of hammering with a drift punch. 
>  I'm not sure that even a bone fide crown race puller would've budged it. 
>  But that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD itself.
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: 
>>
>> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says 
>> he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
>> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
>> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
>> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
>> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
>> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
>> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
>> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
>> be appreciated!. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Garth]

When my American Classic Trilock top crack , instead of replacing the whole 
thing I just bought a Tange Levin CDS and installed the top only.  The 
bottom cartridge of the Trilock was still fine so I need not bother 
replacing it.  

So you could just put the good bearing back in the bottom and replace the 
top with something like the Levin CDS, or if you want another cartdridge 
for the top just get one but you could keep the 105 until it craps out. 


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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Matthew J]

> While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
> Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
lower prices.

I am a big CK fan.  Cane Creek 110 classic 1" is a very good alternative. 
 As with CK, CC is also MUSA.

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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Garth]

When my American Classic Trilock top crack , instead of replacing the whole 
thing I just bought a Tange Levin CDS and installed the top only.  The 
bottom cartridge of the Trilock was still fine so I need not bother 
replacing it.  

So you could just put the good bearing back in the bottom and replace the 
top with something like the Levin CDS, they're less than a $20 bill :) 

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Patrick Moore]

I just adjusted the Tange Rollerball headset on my '99 Joe Starck; it
hadn't been touched since 1999 and almost 12,500 miles, and probably didn't
even need adjustment, only I was being picky. Even after messing with it it
still seems fine. I didn't even bother to add grease.

The Ultegra on the '03 Curt Goodrich is as new after almost 10K miles
untouched.

The only headset I've ever notched was a Dura Ace loose ball set on a
mountain bike, which I overtightened.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, David Hallerman 
wrote:

>  Price does not equal value, and price does not equal cost.
>
> While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
> Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with lower
> prices.
>
> For instance, I recently removed a threaded Chris King headset from a bike
> that has about 8000 miles on it, and I had installed that CK headset about
> 16 years ago (!!!) with no maintenance in that period.
>
> And the CK headset is still smooth and functional, ready to be installed
> again.
>
> That's real value, and that's actually a lower cost per mile.
>
> Dave, who removed this CK headset only because he's doing a total
> overhaul on this particular Ibis road bike
>
>
> On 5/26/15 11:44 AM, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past
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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

[Patrick Moore]

In this vein, you could do a "faux Rambouillet" color job using orange duct
tape. Someone on the boblist did this with his beater commuter and it
actually looked quite good from a distance, but I'd guess that any thief
would be so non-plussed upon a close-up view that he'd be likely to give
the bike a miss.

I wish I'd kept the photo.

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> I put stickers all over the bikes I build from the parts bin. "Value is in
> the cables!" The last one really came together when I "splurged" on new
> bars and pedals.
>
> Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[David Hallerman]

Wow, a testimonial with the following points being made:

* Tightening was tricky.
* Doesn't have the "feel" of other headsets.
* Difficult to install upper and lower races.
* Much greater difficulty.
* Chrome stripped off.

Wow, please don't offer a testimonial to this post of mine.

Dave, who reiterates that in general final price is not your real cost 
nor your real value in many things not just headsets and adds that many 
people here have really really nice bikes so scrimping doesn't make 
sense unless money is very tight


On 5/26/15 12:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle bearing 
headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet indexed 
about 4 years ago so I started looking for replacements.  I like the 
Chris King products, but thought I'd give the IRD a shot, since Grant 
"sold" the idea of needle bearings for the lower race.  So far it's 
worked flawlessly and I do not detect any of the sluggishness that 
Grant described on the Riv web page.  So I'd say give it a try if you 
want to go in that direction.  Tightening the headset was tricky; I 
had to re-tighten it once or twice after riding for a while because it 
doesn't seem to have the "feel" of the bearing movement that ordinary 
ball-types do.  But once I got it dialed-in it was OK.


Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it comes 
packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.  Opening 
everything up and looking at the lower race components made me think 
of a miniature version of an automobile front axle tapered bearing 
set.  So I had to decide what kind of grease to use on everything.  I 
wound up just using the regular Phil grease and it's worked fine. 
 Pressing the upper and lower races into the head tube was one of the 
most difficult operations.  I had everything well greased both inside 
the head tube as well as around the races, but it went in with much 
greater difficulty than any headset I can recall installing.  Not sure 
why this was.  In fact, some of the chrome stripped off of the lower 
race during the process.  But I finally got it in there OK.  I would 
definitely not recommend installing this (or any headset, for that 
matter) without a decent installation tool, either like the one Park 
makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the old crown "race" 
off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever installed it needs to 
think hard and long about how to do things - it was very un-Riv-like. 
 Instead of sanding off the paint and primer and then greasing the 
steering tube, they just hammered on there over paint and everything, 
sans grease.  Never do that. It took lots of hammering with a drift 
punch.  I'm not sure that even a bone fide crown race puller would've 
budged it.  But that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD 
itself.


On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:

I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop
says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we
switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm
researching a new one. This is the second headset I've had that
was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original
Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that
will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past but they
seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there
are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also
considering the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.
 Other ideas would be appreciated!.

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Conversion Help

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

My exact same experience. I couldn't get the Torx seat adjustment bolt 
anywhere near tight enough to hold the seat, and began to strip it. Emailed 
the problem, and he sent an Allen as a replacement which works perfectly! 


On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 9:21:45 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 3:46:42 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>
>> Another option is to use security bolts. This link will have everything 
>> you'd use to secure parts to the frame: stem, racks, brakes, seat post, 
>> seat on post, derailers, etc... 
>>
>> http://bicyclebolts.com/collections/security-allen-bolts/
>>
>> I guess I am reacting to de-constructing a well thought out, and well 
>> equipped, bike.
>>
>
>
> As a customer, I have a couple of recommendations if you decide to go with 
> this vendor:
>
>1. Don't get the Torx security bolts as they are (surprisingly) 
>difficult to get any torque on. The Allen is fine though, and the vendor 
>was nice enough to replace my Torx ones for Allen after I provided the 
>feedback.
>2. The supplied tool's quality can be better. They are good for a 
>couple of uses but if you have a bunch of bolts, you may want to get a set 
>of "real" security Allen wrenches.
>
> The shipping charge is also very reasonable and the vendor stands behind 
> his products. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase again (and in fact will soon).
>

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[Ryan Fleming]

Dave makes a really good point. I think CKs are terrific,,,set and forget, 
but the nice IRD roller ball headset that Riv sells is probably about 
$50.00 cheaper
 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hsrd.htm
On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:55:29 AM UTC-5, Dave Hallerman wrote:

>  Price does not equal value, and price does not equal cost.
>
> While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
> Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with lower 
> prices.
>
> For instance, I recently removed a threaded Chris King headset from a bike 
> that has about 8000 miles on it, and I had installed that CK headset about 
> 16 years ago (!!!) with no maintenance in that period.
>
> And the CK headset is still smooth and functional, ready to be installed 
> again.
>
> That's real value, and that's actually a lower cost per mile.
>
> Dave, who removed this CK headset only because he's doing a total 
> overhaul on this particular Ibis road bike
>
> On 5/26/15 11:44 AM, Darin G. wrote:
>  
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
> be appreciated!. 
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[RBW] Re: Threaded Headset Recommendation

[George Schick]

This might be a good time for a testimonial for the IRD needle bearing 
headset Riv sells.  The Shimano headset on my Rambouillet indexed about 4 
years ago so I started looking for replacements.  I like the Chris King 
products, but thought I'd give the IRD a shot, since Grant "sold" the idea 
of needle bearings for the lower race.  So far it's worked flawlessly and I 
do not detect any of the sluggishness that Grant described on the Riv web 
page.  So I'd say give it a try if you want to go in that direction. 
 Tightening the headset was tricky; I had to re-tighten it once or twice 
after riding for a while because it doesn't seem to have the "feel" of the 
bearing movement that ordinary ball-types do.  But once I got it dialed-in 
it was OK.

Installation was a different matter, however.  First of all, it comes 
packed in a light corrosion inhibitor of some sort.  Opening everything up 
and looking at the lower race components made me think of a miniature 
version of an automobile front axle tapered bearing set.  So I had to 
decide what kind of grease to use on everything.  I wound up just using the 
regular Phil grease and it's worked fine.  Pressing the upper and lower 
races into the head tube was one of the most difficult operations.  I had 
everything well greased both inside the head tube as well as around the 
races, but it went in with much greater difficulty than any headset I can 
recall installing.  Not sure why this was.  In fact, some of the chrome 
stripped off of the lower race during the process.  But I finally got it in 
there OK.  I would definitely not recommend installing this (or any 
headset, for that matter) without a decent installation tool, either like 
the one Park makes or an improvised equivalent.  Then, getting the old 
crown "race" off of the fork was a major challenge.  Whoever installed it 
needs to think hard and long about how to do things - it was very 
un-Riv-like.  Instead of sanding off the paint and primer and then greasing 
the steering tube, they just hammered on there over paint and everything, 
sans grease.  Never do that. It took lots of hammering with a drift punch. 
 I'm not sure that even a bone fide crown race puller would've budged it. 
 But that's all a different matter, unrelated to the IRD itself.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote:
>
> I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop says he 
> can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we switched the 
> bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching a new one. This 
> is the second headset I've had that was worn out by the 3500 mile mark, the 
> other being the original Tange on my Hillborne, and I'm searching for a 
> replacement that will last.  I've considered the CK headsets in the past 
> but they seem mighty expensive and while most reviews are positive there 
> are some reviews suggesting they are not worth the money.  Also considering 
> the IRD needle roller bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would 
> be appreciated!.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Visting Portland

[Eric Norris]

Stop by 21st Avenue Bicycles and say “hi” to my daughter, Sarah.

Grab a beer and some great pub food at Rogue.

--Eric Norris
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> On May 26, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Manley  wrote:
> 
> My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
> and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
> enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of having 
> my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 
> 
> Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
> Velo Cult. 
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1988 or 1989 Bridgestone Trail MB-4 rehab questions

[Bruce Smitham]

Those Bullmose might be the trick. They look really nice but if I remember
can be expensive. Thanks for the tip and pic.

Cheers,
Bruce

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> Oops, forgot to post a pic. Here it is with the Bullmoose bars.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Hugh Smitham]

Daniel,

They were running the Snakeskin version.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Daniel Jackson <
daniel.seth.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark, what versions of the tire were ya'll running?
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 2:07:03 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Just finished a 7 day gravel tour, including the Oregon outback. Tires
>> are shredded. My buddy graham had two rear blowouts and a dime sized piece
>> of tire in the middle tear out. I have some big slashes halfway through the
>> tread and the knobs are showing signs of tearing. These tires roll so
>> nicely but seem to be too soft for loaded gnarly road touring. Full report
>> to come...
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>> Mark Reimers buddy on the OOB slashed a TB. Still waiting to hear which
>> version he was running. The weight savings was so nominal I chose puncture
>> resistance.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Deacon Patrick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running Snakeskin but wish I'd gotten the plain, most supple. Next
>>> time, and then I'll know. My understanding is: Snakeskin = sidewall
>>> protection and best for tubeless; Raceguard = puncture protection.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 9:30:43 AM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Hey Deacon,

 What model Burt are you running? Snakeskin, Raceguard, none of the
 above? Any idea about differences in puncture resistance between the
 Snakeskin and Raceguard forms?

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[RBW] Visting Portland

[Kurt Manley]

My girlfriend and I are taking a road trip up to Portland in a couple weeks 
and bringing our bikes. We plan on riding around fairly leisurely and 
enjoying a great town. I've been before but never had the pleasure of 
having my Riv (or any bike for that matter) with me. 

Any tips? Good routes, sights, beer stops? We will def stop by Rivelo and 
Velo Cult. 

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[RBW] Re: Rubena Flash tires from RBW

[Garth]

Here is the best info of the many Rubena tire websites  :  
http://www.rubena.eu/?stranka=400&scid=216&a_search%5B52%5D=FLASH&a_search%5B1%5D=&a_search%5B2%5D=&a_search%5B43%5D=


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[RBW] Re: Rivelo is opening!

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Awesome.  

The one thing which has been sadly missing in my RBWHQ&L visits has been 
the most enjoyable check-ins with Mr. Bennett.

Hope you folks up in Stumptown appreciate what you have!

(and I figure you do...)

- J

On Monday, May 25, 2015 at 6:09:39 PM UTC-7, Beth H wrote:
>
> I came, I saw, I enjoyed: 
>
> http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/2015/05/theres-new-kid-in-town-rivelo.html
> Slow opening for now, official opening June 20.
> Fun, cute, lovely. Go and see.
> Beth
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[RBW] Re: "How old is your Hillborne?" Really

[John]

Just go all William Gibson on them and say, "Actually, I printed a 3-D 
replica of a 1960's Rivendell steel frame, then I sourced compatible 
components through the Japanese underground market."

This reminds me of Anne's story, minus the sexist component, of being 
lectured about her fat bike. It always amazes me when conversations veer 
off somewhere into automation, and the other person stops responding to 
whatever one is saying.

John

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Re: [RBW] Threaded Headset Recommendation

[David Hallerman]

Price does not equal value, and price does not equal cost.

While Chris King headsets cost more than most, they last and last.
Therefore, their actual cost tends to be far less than headsets with 
lower prices.


For instance, I recently removed a threaded Chris King headset from a 
bike that has about 8000 miles on it, and I had installed that CK 
headset about 16 years ago (!!!) with no maintenance in that period.


And the CK headset is still smooth and functional, ready to be installed 
again.


That's real value, and that's actually a lower cost per mile.

Dave, who removed this CK headset only because he's doing a total 
overhaul on this particular Ibis road bike


On 5/26/15 11:44 AM, Darin G. wrote:
I've managed to notch the Shimano 105  headset on my Rom.  My shop 
says he can't find the cartridge bearings for this headset, so we 
switched the bottom cartridge to the top for now, but  I'm researching 
a new one. This is the second headset I've had that was worn out by 
the 3500 mile mark, the other being the original Tange on my 
Hillborne, and I'm searching for a replacement that will last.  I've 
considered the CK headsets in the past but they seem mighty expensive 
and while most reviews are positive there are some reviews suggesting 
they are not worth the money.  Also considering the IRD needle roller 
bearing headset on the Riv site.  Other ideas would be appreciated!.


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[RBW] Re: 1988 or 1989 Bridgestone Trail MB-4 rehab questions

[Jeffrey]

Oops, forgot to post a pic. Here it is with the Bullmoose bars.



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