[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Doug Williams]

Way to go, Leah! I'm a bicycle safety instructor and I teach Safe Routes to 
School classes. Biking to school is great for kids for SO many reasons. 
Adults have different priorities, but for the kids it is the freedom to go 
where they want when they want; rather than have to wait for some adult to 
give them a ride. My kids are both "self-propelled".

Doug

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 9:03:09 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:

> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 miles 
> from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, all 
> uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride carbon 
> bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable bike 
> commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That hill is 
> too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My kids 
> would never do that, they said. 
>
> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering 
> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There 
> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking 
> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally 
> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I 
> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids 
> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going 
> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get 
> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a 
> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come 
> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were 
> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I 
> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily. 
> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of 
> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and 
> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping 
> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight! 
>
> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album. 
> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a 
> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Fantastic. Great job motivating your kids.

Hopefully it will catch on school wide.
Your Betty Foy is an eye catcher.
Nice necklace! 

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Garth]

  Such content requires no prerequisite Leah !   Joy needs no excuses !  

  Hray !Thank You ! 

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Shoji Takahashi]

This makes me so happy. Kudos to you and your boys! 

shoji


On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:03:09 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 miles 
> from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, all 
> uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride carbon 
> bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable bike 
> commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That hill is 
> too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My kids 
> would never do that, they said. 
>
> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering 
> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There 
> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking 
> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally 
> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I 
> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids 
> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going 
> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get 
> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a 
> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come 
> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were 
> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I 
> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily. 
> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of 
> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and 
> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping 
> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight! 
>
> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album. 
> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a 
> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Curtis McKenzie]

Wonderful!

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Doug Williams  wrote:

> Way to go, Leah! I'm a bicycle safety instructor and I teach Safe Routes
> to School classes. Biking to school is great for kids for SO many reasons.
> Adults have different priorities, but for the kids it is the freedom to go
> where they want when they want; rather than have to wait for some adult to
> give them a ride. My kids are both "self-propelled".
>
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 9:03:09 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
>> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2
>> miles from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school,
>> all uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride
>> carbon bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable
>> bike commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That
>> hill is too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My
>> kids would never do that, they said.
>>
>> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering
>> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There
>> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking
>> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally
>> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I
>> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids
>> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going
>> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get
>> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a
>> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come
>> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were
>> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I
>> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily.
>> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of
>> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and
>> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping
>> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight!
>>
>> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album.
>> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a
>> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF
>
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Re: [RBW] Need Dahon handlebar quick release

[Patrick Moore]

Many thanks, Joe.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I have a spare stem/shaft doohickey that might have a QR at the top. I'll
> take a look when I get home Friday.
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Re: [RBW] The Impossible School Commute

[Patrick Moore]

Good for you. Can both your sons make it up the 2 mile climb without
bailing?

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:03 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 miles
> from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, all
> uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride carbon
> bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable bike
> commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That hill is
> too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My kids
> would never do that, they said.
>
> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering
> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There
> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking
> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally
> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I
> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids
> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going
> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get
> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a
> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come
> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were
> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I
> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily.
> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of
> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and
> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping
> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight!
>
> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album.
> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a
> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF
>
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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome! My wife loves riding with our four daughters (two of them on the 
back of her cargo bike) to Mass. It's similarly all down hill there, all up 
hill back. I've taught them to "take the lane," riding in the right tire 
spot of a car rather than as far over as they can. Much less stressful for 
them and cars go around them slower and with more space then they did when 
we hugged the right tight.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 10:03:09 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 miles 
> from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, all 
> uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride carbon 
> bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable bike 
> commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That hill is 
> too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My kids 
> would never do that, they said. 
>
> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering 
> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There 
> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking 
> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally 
> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I 
> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids 
> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going 
> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get 
> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a 
> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come 
> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were 
> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I 
> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily. 
> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of 
> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and 
> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping 
> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight! 
>
> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album. 
> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a 
> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[LeahFoy]

My 9 year old can make it with only one stop for water over halfway up the 
hill. My younger needs to stop and walk for a few blocks. But when the heat 
goes away, I bet he can make it further. It's hard to do, even for me!

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Beth H]

Leah is totally The Cool Mom. 

When I was a kid, I wanted to ride to and from school to avoid the bullies 
in the back of the school bus. My mother invited me to select a safe route, 
draw a map (school was three miles from home) and then, early one Sunday 
morning she would follow behind me in the family car to make sure I was 
okay. It all worked out beautifully. Sadly, my mother never learned to ride 
a bike; but she supported my love for bicycles completely.

I hope you get some takers on dinner and conversation; what a great way to 
build community!

Happy riding --Beth Hamon in Portland, OR
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[RBW] 2015 Philly Bike Expo - Nov 7-8

[Montclair BobbyB]

Still 2 months away, but mark your calendars for this year's Philly Bike 
Expo... http://www.phillybikeexpo.com/.  Not a huge show, but always 
something interesting and worthwhile (and I have to give props to last 
year's show where I scored my awesome Vitamix... HAH!!)

Last year I arrived via the Wissahickon and Schuylkill Trails; definitely a 
fun ride and the best way to get into Philly (IMO).  Any Philly locals, 
Jersey or Delawareans care to join me, perhaps we can meet up in Chestnut 
Hill and make an outing of it?

Peace,
Bobby

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Minh]

Hmm, how about posting a video for the other parents to see what it's like?

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RE: [RBW] 2015 Philly Bike Expo - Nov 7-8

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

It's on my calendar, Bobby!

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Subject: [RBW] 2015 Philly Bike Expo - Nov 7-8

Still 2 months away, but mark your calendars for this year's Philly Bike 
Expo... http://www.phillybikeexpo.com/.  Not a huge show, but always something 
interesting and worthwhile (and I have to give props to last year's show where 
I scored my awesome Vitamix... HAH!!)

Last year I arrived via the Wissahickon and Schuylkill Trails; definitely a fun 
ride and the best way to get into Philly (IMO).  Any Philly locals, Jersey or 
Delawareans care to join me, perhaps we can meet up in Chestnut Hill and make 
an outing of it?

Peace,
Bobby
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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[KC]

Really cool.  We can change things, one person at a time.
Americans tend to be so overweight and, sadly, the kids are overweight, eat 
poorly and don't exercise.  what you're doing is exactly what we need.  And 
what a great way to start the day.
My daughter-in-law is responsible for the "walking school bus" program for 
the elementary school in our community, lining up volunteers to walk to 
school along a designated safe route. 

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 8:01:43 AM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:

> My 9 year old can make it with only one stop for water over halfway up the 
> hill. My younger needs to stop and walk for a few blocks. But when the heat 
> goes away, I bet he can make it further. It's hard to do, even for me!

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Re: [RBW] Re: (Not OT) carrying a camera on a bike

[subfascia]

Thanks everyone for the good suggestions! 



> On Sep 8, 2015, at 2:21 PM, "cyclotour...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> Zombie topic, but this just occurred to me: 
> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/product/dslr-slinger/ 
> 
> Looks like it could be a good set up.
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 9:44:24 AM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote:
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> How do people safely carry a camera by bike? I have camping bike with a 
>> basket and my entire camera bag fits in the front with a bungee net over it, 
>> or sometimes the camera bag goes in the shop sack. Either way I put a little 
>> padding under to absorb the bumps. 
>> 
>> How do folks carry a camera on a more roadish bike though? The unit in 
>> question is a rather stout 1960s Nikon F, with a 50mm and sometimes a 
>> telephoto. I am hoping to hear some of other's personal experience and adapt 
>> it to my own use. My solution could be as simple as just taking photos on my 
>> smart phone when I am on my "roadie" ha. I am new to the 35mm film 
>> photography and bicycle crossover so any tips or perspective will be useful. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Jason 
>> SF,CA
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Re: [RBW] Need Dahon handlebar quick release

[Patrick Moore]

Joe: I just found what I need (I think) at ThorUSA, the folding bike
specialists. Thanks anyway for your offer.

Note: If your QR does have a curved male surface at both lever and nut
ends, I may still be interested, since the Dahon clamp I just bought is
made for later models and not for the Solo.

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[LeahFoy]

Thanks, All, for your kind words. I have also posted this to my Facebook 
account, where  it also drew an overwhelmingly positive response. That was, 
until an uncle of mine noticed I was not wearing a helmet.  I was stupid enough 
to gently defend my case. When will I ever learn to just be quiet? 

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[Doug Williams]

Yes, you were wrong...You should not have gently defended your case. You 
should have vigorously defended your case.

I usually wear a helmet, but I have zero tolerance for non-cyclists who 
insist that all bike riders should wear a helmet. For kids, helmet use is 
required under California law. For adults, it is not...nor should it be. 
Tell your uncle that you are an adult and you don't have to wear a helmet 
on your bike.

Tell him that bike helmets are MUCH less effective than he has been told. 
Ask him why he doesn't wear a helmet in his car, since many more lives 
would be saved if motorists all wore helmets than will ever be saved by 
bicycle helmets. Ask him why he doesn't wear a helmet while walking, 
because being a pedestrian is more dangerous than being a cyclist (and MUCH 
more so if you compare pedestrian deaths per mile and cyclist deaths per 
mile). Annual cyclist deaths: 600, pedestrians: 4,500, motorists: 30,000. 
Annual deaths from obesity and lack of exercise: 300,000. Given the fact 
that helmet laws have been proven to reduce ridership...they actually kill 
people by increasing the number of obesity related deaths.

Also annoying are people who blame the bicyclist killed by an SUV by 
saying, "If only he was wearing a helmet!" As if the magic invisible safety 
runes on the helmet would have prevented the death somehow. Helmets are 
fine, but they are definitely dead last on the Five Layers of Safety. 
People commenting about bicycle accidents should address Layers 1-4 before 
that talk about how the "magic helmet" could have helped.

Doug

The Five Layers of Safety:

*Layer 1: Control Your Bicycle* (Don’t fall or collide with others)

If you can skillfully control your bike by starting, stopping, and turning 
properly, you will not fall down all by yourself or run into others. Do 
this and you cut out about half of your injury risk. To ride in groups, a 
cyclist must have good bike handling skills.

*Layer 2: Follow the Rules* (Don’t cause traffic accidents)

Follow traffic laws, obey signs and signals, use headlights and taillights 
at night, and use the correct lanes for turns and through movements and you 
won’t cause a collision with a motorist. About half of cyclist/motorist 
crashes are caused by cyclists who violate the basic rules of the road. But 
you don’t do that, right? Combine Layers 1 and 2 and you cut about 75% of 
your injury risk.

*Layer 3: Lane Positioning* (Discourage other driver’s mistakes)

Knowing when to use the full lane or to share a lane is something few 
cyclists fully understand. Your position in a lane is the best way to make 
yourself conspicuous, to tell drivers what you are doing, and to discourage 
them from making unsafe movements. Many of these effective lane positioning 
principles have been forgotten by the modern cycling community, so they may 
be contrary to what you’ve been taught! Combine Layers 1, 2 and 3 and you 
cut out about 99% of all potential crashes.

*Layer 4: Hazard Avoidance* (Avoid the other driver’s mistakes)

There are evasive maneuvers you should know that can help you avoid major 
motorist mistakes or dodge obstacles. Knowing how to stop and turn quickly 
helps you avoid motorist mistakes that aren’t discouraged by lane 
positioning. These skills are not instinctive and must be taught.

*Layer 5: Passive Safety* (Protection when all else fails)

This is actually the least effective layer. Helmets and gloves protect your 
most vulnerable body parts as a last resort in case of the very rare 
failure of Layers 1 through 4, but they do nothing to help you avoid 
crashes.




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> Thanks, All, for your kind words. I have also posted this to my Facebook 
> account, where  it also drew an overwhelmingly positive response. That was, 
> until an uncle of mine noticed I was not wearing a helmet.  I was stupid 
> enough to gently defend my case. When will I ever learn to just be quiet? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Atlantis

[Mark Reimer]

What?! NO! That's my favourite Atlantis :(

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 9:45:27 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>
> Sent a PM
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:18:55 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Tony. For me the Atlantis is slightly on the too large side, and 
>> is my best bike for a only tiny percentage of my applications.  My next 
>> project should fit better in my stable.
>>
>> That said, the 56 Atlantis should prove to be a perfect "all road enduro" 
>> bike for someone.  After yesterday's ride, I considered putting drops on it 
>> and keeping it.
>>
>> Chris Johnson
>> Sanger, Texas
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Atlantis

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 I'm with Mark, the proportions of your particular set-up…i.e. Black B-17 
at that saddle height and the relationship of the Albatross bar height with 
the Maxxis High Rollers and just dusty enough, man that looked perfect. I 
fav'd a few of the Flickr shots.
 I always loved the 56 Atl and I did my best to make it fit but it's just 
not the right size for me. As strange as it may sound, I've owned three 
56's over the years. I also have owned two 58's. Selling an Atlantis is a 
strange thing, some can do it and never look back. I'm not one of those. I 
now have a 61 and bounce back and forth from Noodles to Albas and always 
fatties.
 I wish Grant had split the difference between the 58 and 61 with a 59.5 
(like he did with between the 53 and 56 by adding the 54.5 size).
Good luck with the sale…….
- Frank

 
  
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 3:48:38 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> What?! NO! That's my favourite Atlantis :(
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 9:45:27 AM UTC-5, Jayme Frye wrote:
>>
>> Sent a PM
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 7:18:55 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tony. For me the Atlantis is slightly on the too large side, and 
>>> is my best bike for a only tiny percentage of my applications.  My next 
>>> project should fit better in my stable.
>>>
>>> That said, the 56 Atlantis should prove to be a perfect "all road 
>>> enduro" bike for someone.  After yesterday's ride, I considered putting 
>>> drops on it and keeping it.
>>>
>>> Chris Johnson
>>> Sanger, Texas
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Albatross or similar handlebar (DC preferred)

[Dave Johnston]

I think they are all 25.4, so you will need to use a shim if you have a 
26.0 stem.

-Dave

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 2:02:11 PM UTC-4, Emily Scott wrote:
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> Hi all, 
>
> I'm in the hunt for a gently used Alba-style bar. 26mm stem dia. Prefer to 
> pick up one in DC, but certainly will welcome all ideas. Feel free to 
> message me off-list.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Judder on the Hunqa

[Dave Johnston]

I had that problem early on with an Atlantis and a used MTB Campy rim 
wheel. I switched to a machined sidewall rim and never had the problem 
again. I was and am still using a headset mounted cable stop.

-Dave

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 5:29:23 PM UTC-4, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> I have a 58 cm gray/bean Hunq with 720s and stock pads, never any chatter. 
> What rims do you ride? Bob
>
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>> They're the stock pads. And yes, the headset is adjusted correctly. I 
>> think I'll try and find a fork mounted cable stop.
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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[LeahFoy]

Doug - all so true. I did point out two articles that - one written by a brain 
surgeon as to why helmets aren't all that helpful. He hasn't responded. Another 
friend of mine said she was "shocked" that I don't wear a helmet. She wanted to 
know what kind of roads I travel. I said: 

"We use the extra-wide sidewalk that no one uses but us. Sadly, it's very 
car-centric here and there are no bike lanes. There's only one way up and one 
way down our mountain, so everyone is getting to school and work on these roads 
and doing 40-55 mph. Using the empty, extra-wide sidewalk is a no-brainer. Kids 
wear helmets because I think they are far more likely to do something dumb and 
crash, but even that isn't terribly concerning to me. If we were at risk for 
anything, it would be being crushed by a car at an intersection while we walk 
our bikes through the crosswalk. Helmets are of little, if any, help when a 
two-ton vehicle is on top of you. We are super-careful of cars. We wear those 
Amish-esque slow-moving-vehicle triangles and we have very loud bells we ring 
to let people know we are there. We make eye contact with drivers before 
walking our bikes in the crosswalks, so we KNOW they see us. In the Netherlands 
and other bike-centric places of the world, almost no one wears helmets."

I do own one, though. I never think to wear it, but it probably WOULD make me 
even more visible. As far as helmets go, isn't it cute?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/21254119356/in/album-72157633589413214/

Jeffrey - such great photos of your kiddo! All these years commuting by bike 
and no incidents? Oh, I hope so! I would be intimidated by NYC streets, living 
in suburbia these many years. Love to hear about different school commutes 
across the country.

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[jeffrey kane]

Nah -- we've never had a major incident in NYC -- and we've been 
everywhere, in all seasons. This kid crossed 57th Street when he was 5 or 6 
on a ride into Times Square! We seem to save all of our TV highlight 
crashes for summers at the Jersey Shore though ... and we had more than our 
share this this year!

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 5:28:36 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Doug - all so true. I did point out two articles that - one written by a 
> brain surgeon as to why helmets aren't all that helpful. He hasn't 
> responded. Another friend of mine said she was "shocked" that I don't wear 
> a helmet. She wanted to know what kind of roads I travel. I said: 
>
> "We use the extra-wide sidewalk that no one uses but us. Sadly, it's very 
> car-centric here and there are no bike lanes. There's only one way up and 
> one way down our mountain, so everyone is getting to school and work on 
> these roads and doing 40-55 mph. Using the empty, extra-wide sidewalk is a 
> no-brainer. Kids wear helmets because I think they are far more likely to 
> do something dumb and crash, but even that isn't terribly concerning to me. 
> If we were at risk for anything, it would be being crushed by a car at an 
> intersection while we walk our bikes through the crosswalk. Helmets are of 
> little, if any, help when a two-ton vehicle is on top of you. We are 
> super-careful of cars. We wear those Amish-esque slow-moving-vehicle 
> triangles and we have very loud bells we ring to let people know we are 
> there. We make eye contact with drivers before walking our bikes in the 
> crosswalks, so we KNOW they see us. In the Netherlands and other 
> bike-centric places of the world, almost no one wears helmets." 
>
> I do own one, though. I never think to wear it, but it probably WOULD make 
> me even more visible. As far as helmets go, isn't it cute? 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/21254119356/in/album-72157633589413214/
>  
>
> Jeffrey - such great photos of your kiddo! All these years commuting by 
> bike and no incidents? Oh, I hope so! I would be intimidated by NYC 
> streets, living in suburbia these many years. Love to hear about different 
> school commutes across the country.

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Cool Conquest 24. One of my favorite bikes!

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 2:06:00 PM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote:
>
> Love this thread -- (except the helmet part) -- but anyway, my son has 
> been riding to school in NYC since Kindergarden and believe me -- a lot of 
> people thought that was crazy too!
>
> Today was the first day of 5th Grade. We got out the door relatively on 
> time ... and then halfway there realized he forgot his backpack! 
>
> Hence, 2 pictures (the first trip and then the second in one morning!)
>
> And no -- 10 year olds don't listen when you warn them about riding no 
> handed ….
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:03:09 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 
>> miles from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, 
>> all uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride 
>> carbon bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable 
>> bike commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That 
>> hill is too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My 
>> kids would never do that, they said. 
>>
>> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering 
>> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There 
>> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking 
>> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally 
>> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I 
>> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids 
>> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going 
>> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get 
>> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a 
>> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come 
>> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were 
>> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I 
>> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily. 
>> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of 
>> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and 
>> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping 
>> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight! 
>>
>> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album. 
>> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a 
>> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING. 
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 130mm

[jim]

I have a NIB Nitto stem 130 c-c and a quill length of 150. I guess that 
isn't tall enough. 

Jim (Madison WI)

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>
> My 100mm Technomic isn't cutting it with the new Albatross bars. 
> Any used 130 Tallux out there? 120mm might be okay as well.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 130mm

[cyclotourist]

Is the 150 the total quill length, or the amount above the minimum
insertion?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:24 PM, jim <4421...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a NIB Nitto stem 130 c-c and a quill length of 150. I guess that
> isn't tall enough.
>
> Jim (Madison WI)
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 1:57:51 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> My 100mm Technomic isn't cutting it with the new Albatross bars.
>> Any used 130 Tallux out there? 120mm might be okay as well.
>>
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>>
>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>
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>>
>>
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[RBW] FS clothing: MUSA, Swobo, Black Mountain

[cyclotourist]

Prices include shipping in US. Add another $5 to ship elsewhere.
Non-smoking household with a dog. Pictures in order are here:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskk4Utbz


   - MUSA large butternut shorts. Very Good Condition. Missing belt and one
   button. $30
   - MUSA large blue knickers. Worn/Good Condition. Scrape on knee that
   hasn't progressed due to fabric type (it's like Ripstop). Belt elastic at
   buckle is wonky. $30
   - Swobo XL black Sunday Bobby 100% Merino polo. Slight pilling. Slight
   fade. No holes. No stains. $35
   - Swobo XL blue Sunday Bobby 100% Merino polo. Slight pilling. Slight
   fade. No holes. No stains. $35
   - Black Mtn. Cycles large green t-shirt. American Apparel cut. Never
   worn. AP shirts are too skinny for me. $15

Discount of $5 off per additional item if you want to buy more than one
(basically shipping discount I pass on).

These are all Cyclotourist approved items that I LOVE, but either in the
wrong size for me or I have duplicates of them and don't need the extra.



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[RBW] Re: So why no Titanium Wald basket?

[Surlyprof]

I was eyeing the one Soma makes at one time but decided I didn't carry 
heavy loads often enough to justify it: 
 http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel  I 
liked the fork struts and lower horizontal bars for panniers.  They even 
have a fence to complete the Wald replacement aesthetic. 
 http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/fence-for-porteur-rack-stainless-steel 
 However, at a combined price of $245.98, I'd go with Andrew's suggestion 
of adding an aluminum plate or Kurt's milk crate. Nice upcycling aesthetic.

John

On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 2:19:31 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> This being the third one I've wrecked. I'm wondering if theres a better 
> option.
>
> Maybe the folks here that work with Titanium can tell me.
>
> Why no Titanium Wald Basket? Price? Weird welds? TOO light?
>
> Picture proved that nothing last.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/shares/79c07y
>
> Manny "Lets break everything" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 Atlantis

[Pondero]

Mark, I rode it for a couple hours the morning before this post.  It was moving 
so well on the new tires that I was pondering drop bars and keeping it.

I have a sale pending, and assuming the deal is closed, I'm really going to 
miss it.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

[dougP]

Leah:

Most excellent.  Hope that dinner event comes together, & great that you've 
now encouraged others to try riding with their kids.  It's a movement!

dougP

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 9:03:09 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> This year we enrolled the boys in a new charter school. It is over 2 miles 
> from home and a VERY challenging commute - all downhill to school, all 
> uphill home. It's the kind of hill that cyclists in Lycra who ride carbon 
> bikes flock to for the challenge. No one thought this was a viable bike 
> commute, at least not with children. It's too hot, they said. That hill is 
> too steep, they said. Your younger child is only six, they said. My kids 
> would never do that, they said. 
>
> We've made it most days and it sure has been freeing! Further bolstering 
> my decision was a giant neighborhood squabble on the Nextdoor app.  There 
> was outrage over parents parking all over the neighborhood, blocking 
> driveways and driving erratically. It got all sorts of nasty, so I finally 
> chimed in. Since there are just too many cars and no place to park them,  I 
> encouraged those parents who head home after dropping off/picking up kids 
> to bike with their kids. (I totally kept it from being preachy. I was going 
> for a you-want-what-I-got approach.) I told them I meet lovely people, get 
> exercise, and best of all, I'm not angry. I nudged then into getting a 
> commuter with a shiny new bell and a basket. And then I said they must come 
> to dinner at my house so we can chat all about it. The next day people were 
> honking and waving and yelling, "Go, Leah!" on the way to school. Since I 
> was practically the only biking mom out there, I was recognized easily. 
> Pedestrians stopped me and said, "You must be Leah!" I made a plethora of 
> friends overnight. Now I ring my bell and wave and yell "Good morning!" and 
> people love it. Best of all, I now see several parents on bikes dropping 
> off and picking up with kids at school. What a welcome sight! 
>
> I put one photo here, but check out the other recent ones in the album. 
> Pictures proved you can change your collective attitude, one bike at a 
> time. Also, please notice my bicycle necklace because it's DARLING. 
>
> https://flic.kr/p/y7fnUF

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Re: [RBW] Re: C&O in October

[Pondero]

Great, Jeff, thanks.

Once I get my guys coordinated, I post a few more details.  Then maybe take the 
discussion offline to include only actual participants.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: The Impossible School Commute

['hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The eyes lie.  Watch the wheels!  But if you are walking and making eye 
contact you are probably safe. 

Matt

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 2:28:36 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
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>  We make eye contact with drivers before walking our bikes in the 
> crosswalks, so we KNOW they see us.

 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 130mm

[sameness]

PM sent.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Tallux 130mm

[cyclotourist]

And I think we have a winner!
Thanks for the responses!

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:57 PM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> My 100mm Technomic isn't cutting it with the new Albatross bars.
> Any used 130 Tallux out there? 120mm might be okay as well.
>
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> David
>
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>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>


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