[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Tony DeFilippo]

For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer service 
notes.  I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase something that 
spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm if the euro VAT gets 
removed for US purchasers?

And one more thing if your willing, it's tough for me to understand based on 
their site what makes up the 160 pound delta between the analogy smock and the 
double centile greenspot.  I see a nikwax pump liner mentioned but not 
explained.  Thanks!

Also how is this type of jacket similar or different from the Riv fancy rain 
jacket other than style?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 10/01/2015 07:02 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer service 
notes.  I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase something that 
spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm if the euro VAT gets 
removed for US purchasers?


I've purchased many things from UK suppliers over the years including a 
Ventile jacket, and in every case the VAT has been removed.  Obviously, 
before buying a 200 GBP jacket I'd make sure by contacting them first, 
but that Hilltrek Greenspot Double Ventile certainly is a nice looking 
jacket, and it's available with (extra cost) custom sizing for sleeves 
and jacket length.





Also how is this type of jacket similar or different from the Riv fancy rain 
jacket other than style?



Probably very similar, perhaps even identical (hard to say, since it's 
not on the Riv site any longer).


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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Garth]

  You asked what did people wear in the rain in days of yore before the 
"waterproof/breathable" idea and sales pitch ?  

Most of the time when I rode in the rain,  I'm speaking of the late 70's 
early 80's,  I had a Bellwether "water resistant" jacket that of course 
wetted out , but it really never bothered me .  I rode centuries in it in 
the rain and in the 50 somethin' degrees. I had the pants also but rarely 
wore them.  I did have some Protog leg warmers I'd wear in the rain and 
cold at times and I was fine.  

I don't recall considering hands or feet at all , and wore regular shoes 
and gloves if I felt like it. 

Bottom line . . .  . I just rode .  The "conditions" are whatever they are 
,  and so what if they are !  I am as I am regardless of any and all 
"conditions" , nothing can take away or add to this !

Just Ride and Be !

_

No, you don't need special stuff at all, and don't need to be covered head 
to toe .  If you want to be that's okay too . No one needs a 
this-or-that-brand-mine-is-holiest-of-all garment or whatever  . .  ..  but 
it you do , so what !  It too is alright . 

You'll never get it wrong and you'll never get it right :)

Frowns are smiles seen from another perspective 

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Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Steven Sweedler]

I just bought the J rain jacket, no full days of rain yet but
very  satisfied  with 3-4 hours. I have been using their helmet cover for
years and like it. Steve

On Thursday, October 1, 2015, Lungimsam  wrote:

> This info I need is mainly for long events. I do pretty good in the rain
> on commutes and sub-30 mile rides. Easy to stay warm on summer rides.
> So, sounds like for longer events there is no such thing as staying dry,
> so warm is the thing.
>
> I'm already wool clad head to toe when I ride. So just need to try to keep
> a rain jacket or something to keep my trunk from getting utterly soaked at
> least. Normally I use a poncho but it is cumbersome with drops. I have Gore
> shoe covers. So that covers the feet. Also gloves.
>
> Anyone tried the J waterproof/breathable/heavily vented jacket?
> Looks like it and their helmet cover is reasonably priced:
> http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html
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[RBW] Re: Tires for the Hillborne

[Surlyprof]

Michael,

I have what I believe to be a 2012 56 Hillborne (orange with canti posts). 
 I use Barlow Pass tires on one set of wheels and 40mm Schwalbe Mondials on 
the other.  The fenders are SKS 50s.  The Barlow Pass tires were no problem 
but I had to lengthen the hole in the front connector with a die grinder (a 
Dremel will work) to enable me to get the clearance for the Mondials.  Now, 
the front fender is pushed almost all the way up to the bottom of the fork 
crown and I have plenty of clearance.  During the summer when I am not 
commuting (and it doesn't rain), I took off the fenders and used 45mm Smart 
Sams.  They don't rub on the frame but occasionally rub on the double 
kickstand when I pedal hard from a stop.  May be another job for the die 
grinder (or a set of Rock n Roads)!

John

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 9:38:43 AM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
> I'm completing a build on a new Sam Hillborne frame I got from a fellow 
> list member and one of the last pieces to the puzzle are the tires. I'm 
> wondering what the largest size tires are that I can use with fenders on a 
> Sam Hillborne? Any recommendations? Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Deacon Patrick]

Tony, great questions! First, Cotton analogy is in my experience superior 
to double ventile because of the capillary action that draws liquid 
moisture away to the outer layers. So a double ventile jacket will keep the 
wet out, it is less efficient at getting the wet out. Hilltrek, I believe, 
is the only company to offer Cotton Analogy.

I called Hilltrek and asked all sorts of questions. I explained my 
multi-purpose and they steered me away from the snug Greenspot and to the 
bulkier, but multi purpose Liathach. Everything about their customer 
service has been excellent and we've purchased from them multiple times. 
(Note, their pants/breeches are extremely tight fitting and they don't 
offer a loose fitting version. They tried what ended up being a one-off 
experiment pair of breeches for me, and with modification on our en I have 
a great pair of ventile breeches with enough room for cycling, running, 
squatting, sitting, but they don't offer it and seemed appalled at my 
adding 6" of fabric into the entirety of the inner leg area to make them 
work.) However, the Liathach jacket works great over a t-shirt, or over my 
heavy boiled wool sweater in winter. Lots of flexibility. Talk with them 
about your planned activities and your measurements and they will give 
recommendations. Feel free to email me off list if you have specific 
questions, though obviously my experience is limited and you milage may 
vary. 

Deleting the VAT is smooth and easy. I suspect the price difference you see 
is for the capillary action liner of the Cotton Analogy Jacket, which is a 
proprietary technology licensed from Paramo for use with ventile. "Analogy" 
refers to the liner working like animal fur, actively pushing/wicking 
moisture (vapor and liquid) away from the body to the outer layers. It 
really is amazing stuff and well worth the cost difference, at least in a 
jacket (my gators and breeches are double ventile).

The Rivendell ventile jacket does not have the fur-analogy liner, and I 
don't recall how many layers of ventile it has.

The main issue you'll have with Hilltrek is their timing and production 
line. If they are making to order (custom or not), they are a small shop 
and things can take a while. Well worth the wait. It's similar to waiting 
for a Rivendell frame/build. Small shoppe, amazing results.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 5:02:32 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> For Will and Patrick, any issues ordering from Hilltrek or customer 
> service notes.  I like the idea of that sort jacket but hate to purchase 
> something that spendy both site unseen and from overseas. Can you confirm 
> if the euro VAT gets removed for US purchasers?
>
> And one more thing if your willing, it's tough for me to understand based 
> on their site what makes up the 160 pound delta between the analogy smock 
> and the double centile greenspot.  I see a nikwax pump liner mentioned but 
> not explained.  Thanks!
>
> Also how is this type of jacket similar or different from the Riv fancy 
> rain jacket other than style?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Confession! I bought a mountain bike

[Jeremy Till]

Don't worry, I have a "Dark Side" bike too, although I drew the line at 
having a metal (aluminum) frame.  None of that carbon stuff for me. 
 Raleigh Talus 29 Comp from a couple of model years back.  The only major 
mods I've made are better tires (Specialized Captains) and Jones Bars.  It 
really lets me take advantage of riding in places like Auburn, some of the 
best riding near Sacramento:

https://flic.kr/p/wPMqsu

Part of the motivation for me was that as a professional mechanic in a bike 
market increasingly dominated by things like hydraulic discs, I felt it 
behooved me to be more familiar with these technologies.  

I've ridden full suspension bikes, and they hold little attraction for me. 
 The certainly let you plow over rough lines and hold your speed better, 
but for me that feels like the textbook definition of risk compensation and 
I've already ended up in the ER once from mountain biking (ask Manny) so 
I'd rather not increase my risk.  The hardtail feels like the perfect 
balance of making riding rough stuff comfortable, doable, and enjoyable, 
without coddling you and rewarding proper line selection and speed control. 
 Although having ridden some fully rigid 29+ bikes I'd say that I could 
probably do nicely with one of those, or maybe just a Krampus fork and 29+ 
front wheel for this bike.  

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 5:21:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> A couple months back I put 5 bikes up for sale, needing to sell 2.  Turns 
> out I sold 3.  I needed to raise funds and also clear garage space for my 
> new career as Team Mechanic for El Cerrito High School Mountain Bike 
> Racing.  Go Gauchos!
>
> Anyhow, two bikes went directly to listers, and one went to a friend of 
> Manny's.  So it's tangentially list-content to share what I spent the money 
> on.  First I bought my son a used tuba and a new trombone, so he won't have 
> to shuttle instruments to and from school every day.  Then I bought a 
> mountain bike.  It is a Niner Air 9.  
>
>
> http://www.jensonusa.com/Mountain-Bikes/Niner-Air-9-Carbon-1-Star-Deore-Bike
>
> Yes, it's crabon fibre.  It's got through axles, hydraulic disks and a 
> 100mm travel fork.  I'm pretty excited to get my hands on it.  My brother 
> in law is picking it up at Jenson and I'll get it this weekend.  Now I will 
> have a contemporary hardtail race bike to keep me up to speed on the 
> newfangled componentry.  Wish me luck!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: The Manny Strap?

[Garth]

That image brings to mind  .  . .. .  those plastic and wire grocery hand 
baskets would make great rack top baskets !  



On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 1:09:41 PM UTC-4, Ely Ruth Rodriguez 
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 1:18:42 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Picked up a cheapy Soma front rack from the LBS today and it came with a 
>> strap, dubbed "The Manny Strap" with instructions on how to use it.
>> Thought I'd pass this along to those who haven't seen it.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Summer Skool Sessions #3 – North Bay Route

[Kieran J]

Superb as usual, Manny. I sure hope to do more Bay Area riding again 
someday!

KJ


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>
> The BoyzontheHoods always delivers.
> Last Summer Skool session.
>
> Good times. Hands still feel a little numb from Bolinas ridge. But still 
> good times.
>
> Pictures Proved that you have to commit to the rut.
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskhDAnCi
>
> Manny " The Strap" Acosta
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Deacon Patrick]

I would argue that on longer events you will be more aerobic than 
anaerobic, and thus sweating less at any given moment. With a Cotton 
Analogy jacket in all day rain I have stayed wonderfully dry. I spent 
several years trying everything I could, and the lesson I learned is I 
should have bought the Cotton Analogy from the beginning. The difference 
really is that striking.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> So, sounds like for longer events there is no such thing as staying dry, 
> so warm is the thing.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Manny Strap?

[John Phillips]

$9.95 (plus S) on Amazon in "Please Don't Run Over Me!" Yellow!   ;)

[image: Plastic Shopping Baskets w/ Handles - Quantity 1 - Color: Yellow - 
Eco Friendly Reusable Retail Store / Grocery Basket - Better Than Paper or 
Plastic Bags]

John

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:48:20 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> That image brings to mind  .  . .. .  those plastic and wire grocery hand 
> baskets would make great rack top baskets !  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 1:09:41 PM UTC-4, Ely Ruth Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 1:18:42 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> Picked up a cheapy Soma front rack from the LBS today and it came with a 
>>> strap, dubbed "The Manny Strap" with instructions on how to use it.
>>> Thought I'd pass this along to those who haven't seen it.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Matthew J]

A wool and Schoeller fabric option. 

 

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:18:37 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> What works for you in the rain when it is 60 degrees or colder?

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[RBW] That your Quickbeam in the RAAM movie?

[Lungimsam]

That your Quickbeam in the Auerback RAAM movie?
At 8:24 point in chapter one, just after showing Jure Robic riding.
Green Qveam with black aero bars, cantis, frame pump, heat treated handlebars, 
grey/black bar tape, red rear bag with bungees, and a "Route 66" sign on bag.

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[RBW] Seagull Canceled

[Steve Palincsar]

   Sea Gull Century Canceled for Saturday, October 3

10/1/2015 1:41:00 PM

SALISBURY, MD---Salisbury University’s Sea Gull Century bike ride has 
been canceled for Saturday, October 3.


“We do not do this lightly," said Amy Waters, Century coordinator. "The 
safety of our 6,000 cyclists, some 200 volunteers, support staff, 
spectators and others is our top priority."


“We have been in close communication with the Maryland Emergency 
Management Agency regarding two potential weather events in our region. 
The National Weather Service currently has issued a flood watch for 
portions of Delmarva through Saturday evening, with 4-7 inches of rain 
forecasted. Winds up to 35 mph are predicted on Saturday. There also is 
a hazardous weather outlook for the mid-Atlantic for the possible 
impacts of Hurricane Joaquin, including additional flooding, heavy rain 
and wind. Travel to and from Maryland’s Eastern Shore may be treacherous.


[Related Links]“The Century relies annually upon many regional 
collaborations to help ensure the safety of riders and others. These 
partners include police agencies, rest stop operations, and more. Given 
the possibility of weather-related emergencies and the preparations that 
are being made throughout the region, the demands upon these partners 
are high. Both the state and national parks on Assateague Island, one of 
our most popular rest stops, are closing in advance of the storm, for 
example. We do not want to further burden our partners.


“We sincerely regret this inconvenience for our riders.”

All 2015 registrants will receive an email with additional information. 
The date for next year’s Century is October 8, 2016.


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[RBW] FS: Canvas Bags.

[David Banzer]

iBOB crosspost...

Have a small collection of designs I played around with and took for a few 
rides. Going unused as I am fickle about bag setups.
These are bags I make myself, one-man operation, under the Treetop moniker.

If you'd like something listed, please go through my webstore, 
treetop.bigcartel.com, and purchase there. 
Payment can be made through credit/debit card or Paypal.
Prices right now include free shipping - if there's something else listed - 
chainrings, washers, parts,  - that you'd like, send me a message and 
I'll add it with no added shipping cost.
Local pickup do-able as well.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

Mini Rando Bag & Saddle Wedge Set - gray waxed canvas, tan leather & 
leather trim - $110 - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/mini-rando-saddle-wedge-combo-gray

Saddlebag - gray waxednew design based on Carradice design & Acorn's size 
of their apparently discontinued large saddlebag - $75

Front Bar Bag w/ 3d pockets & XL Wedge Set - tan waxed canvas, tan leather 
- I played around with leather design on these, turned out nicely, then 
decided I wanted to ride my Redwood with commuting loads - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/bar-bag-w-3d-pockets-xl-wedge-set

Medium Deluxe Wedges - 1 tan, 1 orange available - 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/deluxe-saddle-wedge-ready-made

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[RBW] WTB: Musa Mitts

[Jim S.]

Hi, does anybody have a pair in decent shape that they don't wear? Would be 
happy to buy them from you if so.

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Peter Adler]

Sure, if you're willing to risk this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlDroGf7ap8

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 2:07:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> If you won't take 'no' for an answer, someone's hosting a Do It Yourself 
> Seagull: 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Steve Palincsar]

If you won't take 'no' for an answer, someone's hosting a Do It Yourself 
Seagull:


The official Seagull Century has been cancelled this year.  However, I 
have a more than 20 year streak of Seagull Century rides under my belt 
that I am not willing to give up on.  So, come join me on Saturday the 
10th of October at Salisbury University for the unofficial Seagull 
2015.  My wife Norene has graciously volunteered to drive the route 
and set up rest stops for us at or near the usual ones.  As usual for 
the very flat course, I expect to ride a pace at or above 20 mph on my 
fixed gear bike.  Let me know if you can make it.  Contact me at tim @ 
guil4d.net



On 10/01/2015 03:44 PM, Lungimsam wrote:

Oh well, it is now cancelled.



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[RBW] Re: Seagull Canceled

[Lungimsam]

N!!!

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 2:32:06 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Sea Gull Century Canceled for Saturday, October 3 10/1/2015 1:41:00 PM 
>
> SALISBURY, MD---Salisbury University’s Sea Gull Century bike ride has been 
> canceled for Saturday, October 3.
>
> “We do not do this lightly," said Amy Waters, Century coordinator. "The 
> safety of our 6,000 cyclists, some 200 volunteers, support staff, 
> spectators and others is our top priority."
>
> “We have been in close communication with the Maryland Emergency 
> Management Agency regarding two potential weather events in our region. The 
> National Weather Service currently has issued a flood watch for portions of 
> Delmarva through Saturday evening, with 4-7 inches of rain forecasted. 
> Winds up to 35 mph are predicted on Saturday. There also is a hazardous 
> weather outlook for the mid-Atlantic for the possible impacts of Hurricane 
> Joaquin, including additional flooding, heavy rain and wind. Travel to and 
> from Maryland’s Eastern Shore may be treacherous.
>
> [Related Links]“The Century relies annually upon many regional 
> collaborations to help ensure the safety of riders and others. These 
> partners include police agencies, rest stop operations, and more. Given the 
> possibility of weather-related emergencies and the preparations that are 
> being made throughout the region, the demands upon these partners are high. 
> Both the state and national parks on Assateague Island, one of our most 
> popular rest stops, are closing in advance of the storm, for example. We do 
> not want to further burden our partners.
>
> “We sincerely regret this inconvenience for our riders.”
>
> All 2015 registrants will receive an email with additional information. 
> The date for next year’s Century is October 8, 2016. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Lungimsam]

Oh well, it is now cancelled. 

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[RBW] Re: Confession! I bought a mountain bike

[RJM]

Nice bike...Niner makes a nice ride. I know a few people who are riding 
Niners, mainly Jet 9s but a few have the Air 9 too, and they really like 
them. Be prepared for nice braking...those hydros do work well when riding 
singletrack. The Deore group is solid and works well and so does the Recon 
Gold fork, and if you really start shredding trails you can always upgrade 
the fork if you feel the need in the future. You bought a real nice frame. 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 7:21:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> A couple months back I put 5 bikes up for sale, needing to sell 2.  Turns 
> out I sold 3.  I needed to raise funds and also clear garage space for my 
> new career as Team Mechanic for El Cerrito High School Mountain Bike 
> Racing.  Go Gauchos!
>
> Anyhow, two bikes went directly to listers, and one went to a friend of 
> Manny's.  So it's tangentially list-content to share what I spent the money 
> on.  First I bought my son a used tuba and a new trombone, so he won't have 
> to shuttle instruments to and from school every day.  Then I bought a 
> mountain bike.  It is a Niner Air 9.  
>
>
> http://www.jensonusa.com/Mountain-Bikes/Niner-Air-9-Carbon-1-Star-Deore-Bike
>
> Yes, it's crabon fibre.  It's got through axles, hydraulic disks and a 
> 100mm travel fork.  I'm pretty excited to get my hands on it.  My brother 
> in law is picking it up at Jenson and I'll get it this weekend.  Now I will 
> have a contemporary hardtail race bike to keep me up to speed on the 
> newfangled componentry.  Wish me luck!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Deacon Patrick]

Cross country swim and sail! Sardonic grin!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 2:07:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> If you won't take 'no' for an answer, someone's hosting a Do It Yourself 
>> Seagull: 
>>
>

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[RBW] Bags for sale. Some Brooks B17's... Mustache handlebar setup too.

[RJM]

Brooks standard and small SaddleSack are sold.

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Lungimsam]

Welp, 400-800$US is outta my price range so Ventile and Cottonanalogy and 
Scholler is out.

I got the J Waterproof/Breathable helmet cover and jacket.
It looks massively vented with the top half of the garment separated from 
the bottom half all the way around, and not just a vent on the back. Big 
pit zips, too. Breathable material.
I'll layer wool underneath and hope it works good.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Lungimsam]

I have to work on the 10th.
Plus, there is no way I could do 20mph average speed over a 100 mile 
course. Maybe , maybe 17mph, with a tailwind.

Looks like the DCRandonneurs are still going on their 200k. But I am not 
fit enough for that amount of climbing over 125 miles yet.

Maybe I will try to do the RUSA Ride Around Resevoirs 104k  perm/pop near 
Laurel on Sunday. Supposed to clear up on Sunday.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone here doing the Seagull Century this weekend? Salisbury, MD

[Steve Palincsar]

You did note, it's the weekend following?  Winds should have died down 
by then and the flood waters receded.


On 10/01/2015 05:22 PM, Peter Adler wrote:

Sure, if you're willing to risk this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlDroGf7ap8

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 2:07:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

If you won't take 'no' for an answer, someone's hosting a Do It
Yourself
Seagull:




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[RBW] Re: Seagull Canceled

[Lungimsam]

Well, let's see

Plans have now been dashed for the Seagull (weather) and Indian Head (me 
late to arrive) centuries...that leaves the Anne Arundel Lifeline 100 on 
the 18th openthen the RUSA Flatbread 200k in November if I don't 
chicken out and it's not sub 30F by thenany other centuries happening 
in October?

Florida is where I need to live...flat brevetsall year long.

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[RBW] WTB 650B wheelset

[Lungimsam]

I have a synergy rim laced to velocity hub 650b wheelset that came on my Blue 
Sam from RBW.  ~2500 miles on them. Wheels run good and look great. Front hub 
starting to sound a little scratchy under neurotic ear listening at close 
range. Everything spins free.

Let me know if interested. Comes with 8-speed cassette.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seagull Canceled

[Steve Palincsar]

On 10/01/2015 07:56 PM, Lungimsam wrote:

Well, let's see

Plans have now been dashed for the Seagull (weather) and Indian Head 
(me late to arrive) centuries...that leaves the Anne Arundel Lifeline 
100 on the 18th openthen the RUSA Flatbread 200k in November if I 
don't chicken out and it's not sub 30F by thenany other centuries 
happening in October?




I'm planning to list an unsupported century in Southern Maryland as an 
Oxon Hill club ride in October, if you're interested.   The Flatbread 
200K is a great ride, too.  But you will be riding in the dark, it's 
basically unavoidable.


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[RBW] 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[Richard Rios]

Hi Everyone,

Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps a 
list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no affiliation 
with seller.

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html

Best,
Richard


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Re: [RBW] Re: Seagull Canceled

[Lynne Fitz]

That's too bad.  I rode an 80 mile perm pop there last October.
As for a century - nothing stopping you from just going out and riding 100 
miles.  Good practice for randonneuring events.  I mean, heck, you've got those 
excellent Wawa convenience stores and all...

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[RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[rw1911]

Thanks for the PSA...  I just emailed the seller and have my fingers 
crossed!


On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:03:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps 
> a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no 
> affiliation with seller.
>
> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[Richard Rios]

Hope it works out would be great for a fellow list member to pick it up :) 
looks to be a really good deal.  I recently finished putting together a 56 
Atlantis I purchased as a frame set on the list and I must say by far one 
of my favorite bikes ever.  Ride is just fantastic and perfect for the 
riding i do, road to fire roads / dirt paths.  Come to think of it cant say 
enough good things about it.  Best of luck!

Sincerely,
Richard

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:48:45 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:
>
> Thanks for the PSA...  I just emailed the seller and have my fingers 
> crossed!
>
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:03:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps 
>> a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no 
>> affiliation with seller.
>>
>> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Confession! I bought a mountain bike

[Jim M.]

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 5:40:40 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Be sure to report on how it rides; if you can compare how the Niner does 
> on technical singletrack compared to a Bombadil or Hunq or even an early 
> 90s steel mtb, I'd find that comparison very interesting. 
>
>
I've had an Air9 (aluminum with rigid steel fork) for more than 5 years. 
Mine has been a single speed for most of its life and weighs about 18 
pounds. It's a great bike, one of my favorites ever. It is a race bike, and 
handles like one. I find it nimble, but some who ride it call it twitchy, 
so ymmv. It has taken me on many daylong excursions up Mt. Diablo, through 
the Sierras, and on plenty of single track.

I also have a Bombadil, and it, too, is one of my favorite bikes ever. It 
handles like a Rivendell, which to me is smooth and sure, but not as fast 
to respond as the Niner. Still, I would not hesitate to take the Bombadil 
any place I've taken the Niner. I think of the Bombadil as more versatile 
than the Air9. I currently keep 2.25" knobbies on it, but it also rides 
great with Hetres, which I have on my spare wheel set. 

If I was going to race the Tour Divide, I'd take the Niner, but for most 
other long tours I'd take the Bombadil. Both are great bikes.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for cycling in the rain in the cold?

[Lynne Fitz]

Wool layers are pretty good.  Baselayer, sometimes two, and a wool jersey.

I know someone doesn't get wet in the rain, but I hypothesize that that person 
lives somewhere that doesn't get the persistent rain that happens on the east 
and upper west coasts.  Man, there is NOTHING like riding the final 13 hours of 
a 24 hour event in the rain.  Nothing was dry.  We stopped in a Subway 20 miles 
out, and puddles formed wherever we stood or sat.  They were super nice, and 
just put out "wet floor" signs.

Also, in the East Coast, I discovered that the humidity is so high that NOTHING 
DRIES.  Not that I was getting rained on for most of that adventure.

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[RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[Richard Rios]

Well in that case Keepn' it in the Famliy! NICE !)

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:03:32 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps 
> a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no 
> affiliation with seller.
>
> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[cyclotourist]

I've been hemming and hawing over this for a month or so now... fair game!

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:36 PM, dougP  wrote:

> It just happens to be cyclotourist's size.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 8:25:46 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>>
>> Well in that case Keepn' it in the Famliy! NICE !)
>>
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:03:32 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area
>>> perhaps a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no
>>> affiliation with seller.
>>>
>>> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[James Warren]

And nearby

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 8:36 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> It just happens to be cyclotourist's size.  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 8:25:46 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>> Well in that case Keepn' it in the Famliy! NICE !)
>> 
>>> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:03:32 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps a 
>>> list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no affiliation 
>>> with seller.
>>> 
>>> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
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Re: [RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[cyclotourist]

Seller is a list member!

Will the real Atlantis owner, please stand up, please stand up.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Richard Rios 
wrote:

> Hope it works out would be great for a fellow list member to pick it up :)
> looks to be a really good deal.  I recently finished putting together a 56
> Atlantis I purchased as a frame set on the list and I must say by far one
> of my favorite bikes ever.  Ride is just fantastic and perfect for the
> riding i do, road to fire roads / dirt paths.  Come to think of it cant say
> enough good things about it.  Best of luck!
>
> Sincerely,
> Richard
>
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:48:45 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the PSA...  I just emailed the seller and have my fingers
>> crossed!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 9:03:32 PM UTC-4, Richard Rios wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area
>>> perhaps a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no
>>> affiliation with seller.
>>>
>>> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 61 Atlantis on inland empire craigslist 1600$ complete

[dougP]

It just happens to be cyclotourist's size.  

dougP

On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 8:25:46 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Well in that case Keepn' it in the Famliy! NICE !)
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:03:32 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Looks to be a pretty good deal on a 61 Atlantis in the Socal area perhaps 
>> a list member has been looking for one.  Just passing it along no 
>> affiliation with seller.
>>
>> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/5246627057.html
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seagull Canceled

[Lungimsam]

I'd definitely be interested, Steve. But checking my schedule, my weekends in 
October are booked. RUSA perm pop hopefully this Sunday, Lifeline 100 on the 
18th, work and worship team at church the other weekends.

You doing the Lifeline 100?

Lynn, that's true!  But organized rides really get me going. I do the shorter 
perm/pops alone, though. Done a few 100-120 k RUSA rides. I'm looking forward 
to the RUSA 200k Flatbread this November. I'm trying to arrange the day off 
work so I can make it! There seem to be centuries around but I have to keep 
surfing the clubs/web to see what's around on the weekends I don't work.

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