[RBW] Re: Keven

[Clayton.sf]

Packing up that Cheviot you sold me this very moment for some mixterr s24o. 
Best wishes and thanks for all! I'll keep an eye out in the commute route!


Clayton SF

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[RBW] I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Clayton.sf]

Looks great! The cheviot is a magical bike. About to hop on mine for another 
day of fun.

Clayton SF

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Philip Kim]

So awesome, is it a 55cm?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-4, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>
> Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
> instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
> on this Cheviot today.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/69421720@N02/22411754631/in/dateposted/
>
> Next up: an Atlantis. I like rigid mountain bikes, but I'm old and slow 
> and was hit by a car a few years ago. I don't actually want to do any 
> mountain biking or go fast. I just like to ride bikes to get around.
>

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Deacon Patrick]

Swet!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-4, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>>
>> Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
>> instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
>> on this Cheviot today.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Ron Mc]

Congratulations - a real beaut

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[RBW] Re: Two people get into fight over parking spot in Fairfax, one pulls out a hatchet

[Ron Mc]

I hope the Riv content was not the hatchet

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:47:35 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
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> Gotta' be careful when you gesture with an ax... someone may gesture back 
> with a .45.
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Two people get into fight over parking spot in Fairfax, one pulls out a hatchet

[Philip Kim]

I've been to the costco out there. it can get ugly on a sunday

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 5:26:20 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/two-people-get-into-fight-over-parking-spot-in-fairfax-one-pulls-out-a-hatchet/2015/10/22/6280916a-78ad-11e5-bc80-9091021aeb69_story.html?wpisrc=nl_buzz
>  
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Clems have shipped!

[Shoji Takahashi]

Terrific! Gotta bring the big truck for this pick up. 

Lots of  of inventory shipping out-- no wonder Grant et al., get a case 
of the nerves when ordering. So glad they take chances and wish them the 
best for Clem sales now and in the future. 

And about those Appaloossas? :)

shoji


On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 9:22:57 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of the boxes from the other side. Probably more of what 
> people are used to seeing. Except for that green stuff. 
>
> Dan
>
> [image: image1.JPG]
>
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:45 AM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> The picture above is so contrary to how I pictured the area RBW is in. 
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[RBW] Re: Two people get into fight over parking spot in Fairfax, one pulls out a hatchet

[Garth]

   Whatever happened to "Virginia is for Lovers"  ?Maybe he was gonna 
"bury the hatchet" !  ;)

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[RBW] Re: Racks for the Clem

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 8:02:44 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Just when I thought that having a mid-to-high trail fork would rule out 
> any substantive front loads, now the Clem's long front-center is ruling 
> them back in!  What to make of it all?  ... It's really confusing. 
>  Probably I'm over thinking it.  
>

Probably. Have you checked out the Clem brochure? It has a nifty diagram of 
a bunch of ways to load the bike, makes it nice and clear. I think a bike 
like this is very versatile in terms of how to load it. I think that 
brochure is a genius little bit of marketing, with the big bonus of 
actually being useful. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee outside.

['clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Cecily, I appreciate your advice.  Right now, I am saving my knee and not 
riding much. I think I'll continue with the injections every six months and 
plan on surgery (maybe) next winter. I HAVE to ride (for mental wellness 
-chronic severe PTSD) so I am in the same situation as you were. I miss riding 
in the mountains and I love being on the bike. Please, please keep me up to 
date on your recovery. You're my Gold Standard.
I am working on a new bike hack for quick release fenders. I'll share when 
finished...
Thanks and may the Pedal be with you!Clayton 


 On Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:39 PM, Cecily Walker 
 wrote:
   

 The thing that really made me realize it was time was not being able to ride 
my bike anymore. It was the last thing I had left (after being diagnosed with 
rheumatoid arthritis), and it was a huge part of my mental wellness, as well as 
the only physical activity I could do with only a minimum amount of pain.  
Things had been going downhill steadily for about two years, but not being able 
to ride my dream bike (my Betty Foy) was the event that made the decision for 
me.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 8:23:17 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:
Cecily, 
My last easy bikepacking trip with my son has made me a whiny, whimpering 
limper.   I have talked to a couple of folks here in town that have had knee 
replacements that have said, "You'll know when it is time".  I will?  I have 
had eleven or twelve surgeries on various injuries and am burned out on going 
through the processUgh. I am now in knee conservation mode. I only ride 
when I have to (without a car, it's still daily).  What made you decide it was 
time? Your attitude is great!  I am excited for you! Clayton


On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 11:27:22 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
I'm getting antsy. I want to ride NOW NOW NOW, but I know I need to let my 
muscles get stronger.  How are you fairing, Clayton? 
On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 8:28:02 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:
Thanks for the update Cecily. It sounds like you are recovering quickly. That 
gives me hopeWORK HARD! Clayton




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Re: [RBW] Clems have shipped!

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The picture above is so contrary to how I pictured the area RBW is in. 

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Re: [RBW] Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I will admit, I've seen dozens of pictures of RBW and even checked it out 
via Google Earth but that photo surprises me.  I thought that if you were 
standing in front of RBW, you would be in an alley with a long row of 
garage doors on one side and a wall on the other.  Having that kind of view 
from RBW never occured to me. 



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> The picture above is so contrary to how I pictured the area RBW is in. 
>

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Shoji Takahashi]

gorgeous Cheviot. I love those long chainstays.

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-4, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>
> Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
> instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
> on this Cheviot today.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/69421720@N02/22411754631/in/dateposted/
>
> Next up: an Atlantis. I like rigid mountain bikes, but I'm old and slow 
> and was hit by a car a few years ago. I don't actually want to do any 
> mountain biking or go fast. I just like to ride bikes to get around.
>

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[RBW] Re: Keven

[Liesl]

Okay Keven it's your last day today and I know you lurk here on this 
group.  I'll say again in front of the whole list-serv what I wrote to you 
off-list:

Even though it is sporadic, I consider you one of my true Riv friends.  You 
have influenced me and my family and our stable of bikes.  The Riv Chica 
Warrior custom would no be the magnificent bike that it is without your 
creativity, experience, and gentle "push Grant; he can do it" nudge about 
55 tires.  I also can see you dropping gracefully, like a gull nonchalantly 
off a cliff, down the top of the peak where we did our S24O and then making 
me a beautiful espresso at RivHQ when we got back.

I hope your next adventure is fabulous.  Maybe it's in the Outer Sunset and 
I can still visit you in SF when I travel there, which is frequent.  And if 
you find yourself (and your family) in Minneapolis, you gotta a place to 
stay.

with love,
RCW, MD

PS Hope your last official Riv HQ day is filled with love and libation.

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[iamkeith]

First of all, your Team Stumpy is hot!  That and an Ibis Scorcher are 
pretty much the only bikes on my wish-list of vintage bikes I'd still like 
to own some day.

I probably didn't say it well enough, but I *am* looking at the standover 
figures in terms of how they would translate to the clearance needed for my 
given pbh - not trying to *match* my pbh.   I'm just a bit shorter 
than 6'-2", and have a barefoot pbh of 87cm (34.25").I'm not a 
crotch-worrier, but I'd also hoped to use the Clem for a lot of 
trail/off-road duty.   I think an inch or inch-and-a-half of clearance, 
with shoes on, will be the minimum reasonable fit -  so perfect 
standover  might be something around 84 -86cm max?

Interestingly, the Rat Trap Pass tires, that I just put on my 60cm All 
Rounder, raised the top tube of that bike to EXACTLY my  87cm pbh (I now 
hit bone in stocking feet), which also happens to be pretty close to the 
number cited on the 59 Clem.  I'll be comfortable using the AR as a road 
bike at that height, but will now be much less likely to take it on single 
track, which is something I often did previously.  It has a pretty level 
top tube, though.  The wildcard with the Clem will be the sloping top tube, 
and figuring out exactly where they measured the cited standover height.  
If it becomes significantly less toward the saddle, then I can probably 
make it work, and that's why I decided to take the chance of buying it.  
(That, and the good pre-sale price and the thinking that I was helping with 
Riv's Cash flow when I had the means.   Pretty amazing to have watched how 
successful such and odd bike became, in retrospect.)

The 59 was the only reasonable choice for me to order, for several reasons, 
so it will either work or it won't.  But like I said above, it's just 
uncanny how often I find myself in this situation with Rivendell/Grant 
Petersen bikes - with my size being inexplicably and randomly deleted (in 
the case of the XO-1 and Atlantis), or falling exactly in the middle of 
sizes offered (in the case of the Hunqapillar and Clem).  Meanwhile, I 
*know* the 52 clem would be too small, because I have a too-small 52cm MB-1 
- which should actually fit bigger than the 52 clem due to a higher bottom 
bracket and steeper seat tube. (Never mind the fact that I rode this size 
for decades.  That was before I knew better.)  

Plus, there was the original description of the bike sizing, from when I 
pre-ordered and before the brochure, which also suggests that the 59 should 
be perfect for someone my height:

*Three Clem & Clementine sizes:* 

*• LARGE—59cm.* Wheel size: 29-in. (fat 700c)

Typical rider height: 5-11 to 6-4. Min. PBH: 88.2cm

Maximum standover with fatties: 34.75 in.

*• MEDIUM—52cm.* Wheel size: 27.5-in (650B)

Typical rider height: 5-8 to 6-0. Min. PBH: 80.6cm

Maximum standover with fatties: 31.8 in.

*• SMALL—45cm.* Wheel size: 26-in 

Typical rider height: 5-0 to 5-7. Min. PBH: 74.3cm

Maximum standover with fatties: 29.5in.




Keith, don't you want to be between the stand over heights? I would think 
> it would make it harder to choose if you were right on one of the numbers.  
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 11:22:21 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
>
>> If the standover works for you, I think you're golden.  Me, I'm still 
>> worrying.  Since they're shipping out in just a few days, this will by my 
>> last obsessive, worry-driven, over-analysis.  Looking at the Clem and Hunq 
>> charts together again, I just noticed something else.  Based on the 
>> standover heights alone (which is the starting point in the normal process 
>> of selecting a Rivendell bike), the sizes of these TWO MODELS COMBINED work 
>> out very well in increments such that there is no overlap. Given all the 
>> other similarities, its almost as if they're designed to work together:
>>
>> - *45 Clem* (74.9cm)
>>  >  1.6cm delta
>> - 48 Hunq (76.5cm)
>>  >  2.6cm
>> - 51 Hunq (79.1cm)
>>  >  1.7cm
>> - *52 Clem* (80.8cm)
>>  >  2.0cm
>> - 54 Hunq (82.8cm)
>> 
>>  >  3.9cm
>>
>> - 58 Hunq (86.7cm)
>>  >  1.6cm
>> - 5*9 Clem* (88.3cm)
>>  >  2.3cm
>> - 62 Hunq (90.6cm)
>>
>> My size, of course,  falls squarely in the middle of the *BIG* gap, 
>> between the 54 and 58 Hunqapillars.   (Which is also squarely between the 
>> 52 and 59 Clems.)   Other bike models that happen to share a 
>> mysteriously-missing size, at the exact same increment, are the  XO-1 
>> (57cm) and a Atlantis (59.5cm).   You know how, in the Clem Brochure, Grant 
>> said that there's this weird, cosmic thing happening between Rivendell and 
>> Shimano, whereby if they really like something it is sure to be 
>> discontinued?  Well, there's this weird cosmic thing happening between me 
>> and Grant 

[RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne 51cm frameset

[Philip Kim]

Selling Sage Green 51 hillborne, bought this year. Including headset as 
well. There's a scratch on the top tube, but hasn't broken the white primer 
underneath, and a small chip at the chainstay where my chainring got loose 
and nicked it.

message me off-list and I can provide pictures.

$1,100 plus shipping OBO.

No shipping if you wanna pick it up in the DC metro area.

Thanks

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Pondero]

Congrats!  That's a lovely bicycle.  I've got another project going, but 
one day...the Cheviot.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Ryan Ray]

Hey! I bought the fenders they pulled off that build today and installed them 
on my brand new Soma GR. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

I really like that blue!  The crank looks good do. And the vp pedals, are those 
stock? So excited!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I've slowly been accumulating parts for my Clem build, but with all of this 
chatter I realized I needed to get the last few things ready!
I put in an order for a few more things at Riv HQ to finalize things for 
when the frame comes… a week or so?

Looking forward to seeing all of the bikes,

Edwin

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote:
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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Standover. That's another great feature of the Clementine.

I had an Ibis Scorcher for many years, was surprised to find out what an 
iconic bike it had become. The first problem with that bike was the cheap 
fixie wheel they spec'd it with--the cog just kept stripping off the hub. I 
finally put on a regular track wheel. Despite this replacement rim being 
skinny, I never had a problem with it holding the stock 41mm Nimbus 
tires--which were about the biggest 700C road tires I had ever seen at that 
point (1992?). The stock, QBP (heavy, cheapish) chromed fork had barely 
enough clearance. I also changed out the cheap cranks. Kept the cheap 
sidepull front brake. (No back brake.)

 I found the stock "moon" handlebars, which were made down the street from 
Ibis, to be way too flexy for me, so I took those off. Had them with a 
bunch of other bike goodies that I foolishly gave away around 1999 when I 
moved in a hurry, which, unbeknownst to me at the time, probably 
effectively killed half the resale value. Also unfortunately, I was so 
eager to assemble the bike, which was shipped to my office as barter for an 
Ibis Scorcher ad in my magazine, that I put the seat post in with no 
grease, making a mental note to do it when I got home...

Many years later, when I wanted to move it...frozen like Excalibur. I tried 
every trick in Sheldon's book from the mild to the extreme before giving it 
to another metalworking friend, who tore the seat tube trying to get it 
out. Which effectively killed the rest of the value. I sold the frame on 
IBob a few years ago, not sure what ever happened to it. It was probably 
one of the first 10 frames (of 100). 

It did have a lovely, quick ride, and rolled over everything NYC had to 
offer with that hunky for the day Specialized rubber. Ahead of its time in 
its retro way, nicely tig welded, light tubing (though almost always had to 
carry a 5pd Quadralock in my messenger bag to keep it mine.) It served me 
well as my daily rider for 4-5 years. But the parts specs were not great. 
My fixie today, a 1960s 531 Louison Bobet with Nervex lugs, only goes up to 
32, but fits me a bit better and rides/looks at least as good, probably 
better, though it's been a while and many bikes in between. Has the same 
crankset and rear wheel I replaced on the Scorcher, as well as that bike's 
original front wheel. So a tiny Scorcher flame flickers on.

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:30:49 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
> First of all, your Team Stumpy is hot!  That and an Ibis Scorcher are 
> pretty much the only bikes on my wish-list of vintage bikes I'd still like 
> to own some day.
>
> I probably didn't say it well enough, but I *am* looking at the standover 
> figures in terms of how they would translate to the clearance needed for my 
> given pbh - not trying to *match* my pbh.   I'm just a bit shorter 
> than 6'-2", and have a barefoot pbh of 87cm (34.25").I'm not a 
> crotch-worrier, but I'd also hoped to use the Clem for a lot of 
> trail/off-road duty.   I think an inch or inch-and-a-half of clearance, 
> with shoes on, will be the minimum reasonable fit -  so perfect 
> standover  might be something around 84 -86cm max?
>
> Interestingly, the Rat Trap Pass tires, that I just put on my 60cm All 
> Rounder, raised the top tube of that bike to EXACTLY my  87cm pbh (I now 
> hit bone in stocking feet), which also happens to be pretty close to the 
> number cited on the 59 Clem.  I'll be comfortable using the AR as a road 
> bike at that height, but will now be much less likely to take it on single 
> track, which is something I often did previously.  It has a pretty level 
> top tube, though.  The wildcard with the Clem will be the sloping top tube, 
> and figuring out exactly where they measured the cited standover height.  
> If it becomes significantly less toward the saddle, then I can probably 
> make it work, and that's why I decided to take the chance of buying it.  
> (That, and the good pre-sale price and the thinking that I was helping with 
> Riv's Cash flow when I had the means.   Pretty amazing to have watched how 
> successful such and odd bike became, in retrospect.)
>
> The 59 was the only reasonable choice for me to order, for several 
> reasons, so it will either work or it won't.  But like I said above, it's 
> just uncanny how often I find myself in this situation with Rivendell/Grant 
> Petersen bikes - with my size being inexplicably and randomly deleted (in 
> the case of the XO-1 and Atlantis), or falling exactly in the middle of 
> sizes offered (in the case of the Hunqapillar and Clem).  Meanwhile, I 
> *know* the 52 clem would be too small, because I have a too-small 52cm 
> MB-1 - which should actually fit bigger than the 52 clem due to a higher 
> bottom bracket and steeper seat tube. (Never mind the fact that I rode this 
> size for decades.  That was before I knew better.)  
>
> Plus, there was the original description of the bike sizing, from when I 

Re: [RBW] Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That was exactly my reaction when I saw those stacked glass office boxes. I 
realize I kind of picture Rivendell as this warehouse where there is maybe 
a little, inconspicuous dirt trail behind the dumpster that leads directly 
off into the landscape of rolling hills pictured on the site. There is a 
parking lot too, but no cars, it's only for testing bikes and making videos 
of water pouring off Saddlesacks. And there is always a pot of good coffee 
and some helpful people in cycling caps and wool shirts doing bikey stuff 
and being tough in the too cold too hot indoor spaces. Oh well, at least 
there is still Santa Claus and the North Pole. Right?

Has anyone received an orange clem yet? I heard they are deeper, darker, 
more blood orange delicious than the one on the website. Keven mentioned it 
and I was sorely tempted, and would almost definitely have gone for it if I 
were getting a Clem Smith. But somehow I just really like the Clementine 
dressed in black.

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 6:45:13 AM UTC-4, Mark Etze wrote:
>
> The picture above is so contrary to how I pictured the area RBW is in. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 51cm frameset

[Philip Kim]

Also looking to trade for a 55 cheviot

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Selling Sage Green 51 hillborne, bought this year. Including headset as 
> well. There's a scratch on the top tube, but hasn't broken the white primer 
> underneath, and a small chip at the chainstay where my chainring got loose 
> and nicked it.
>
> message me off-list and I can provide pictures.
>
> $1,100 plus shipping OBO.
>
> No shipping if you wanna pick it up in the DC metro area.
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Irving]

Kicking myself for not pre-ordering. What color option is that?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:45:29 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[iamkeith]

El Sapo,

I didn't see any headlights in the photo you posted of your bike, and it 
surely has to be dark by now - even on the West Coast.   So spill the 
beans!  How's the ride?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 3:33:02 PM UTC-6, El Sapo wrote:

> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules 
> are festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Big in Hong Kong...

[Daniel Jackson]

I love this google group. 

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 11:35:50 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> OK, my native Cantonese wife who is native to HK and Canton, China 
> listened. She said some of the words are hard to translate into English. 
> The audio speaker states things a little differently from the text. I typed 
> while my wife talked, and instead of changing retranslating her English to 
> sound like Native English, I just mostly typed straight out how she said 
> it. But the gist of it is:
>
> *Audio from the video says:*
> "He works 6 months and then goes out to play 6 months.
> He has fun on 78$HK a day ($10US)  because he has nothing to do and no car 
> and no money.
> He's comes from Connecticut, USA. He's 35. His name is Benedict.
> But he owns more than you and me.
> He goes to play and travel - it is the real him.
> He hasn't lived in one place for more than 1/2 a year since he graduated.
> He works half a year and then goes to travel as a tour guide and fishing 
> for the next half year.
> He rides bike everywhere.
> Only eats simple food and yogurt or goes out to take those wild food and 
> berries.
> If he's at the ocean he will eat some crabs and seaweed.
> Every day only spends equivalent of 78$ Hong Kong money. ($10 US dollars).
> All his wealth can be put in a small bag and then buries under the ground 
> so no one steals it.
> He never counts what he has.
> He has a bank account for selling bike parts online.
> He has 15-20 bikes.
> Simple life. He's on the magazine cover and a lot of people envy him.
> He says that people in modern society think that having lots of money 
> means you are successful.
> But he doesn't agree. He says that working is against nature and is 
> stressful and he doesn't like to work. He doesn't want to use the peak of 
> his life to work. 
> He doesn't want to use his time doing something meaningless.
> Now he is working part time as is making work, work for him(?).".
>
> *The print under the video says:*
> "Working people every day work for two meals. Even you don't like work you 
> still have to do it.
> Some Americans like to give up the working life and spend half year 
> working and the rest of the time traveling. Simple but fun life.
> 35 years old man Benedict is from Connecticut, River Valley, USA.
> He says he doesn't like work and it is not natural. So he decided to 
> create his own life that belongs to himself. He said that he only likes to 
> ride bike and camping. He said that he would like to do something 
> meaningful but doesn't want to waste the peak of his life doing something 
> meaningless.
> Recently he was on the cover of a magazine. His Instagram account "Ultra 
> Romance" has become popular. He said he graduated at 20 years old and 
> hasn't stayed in the same place more than half a year, since.
> 1/2 year working as a travel guide or fisherman, the rest of the time 
> travels whole country.
> Sometimes traveling alone, sometimes with company.
> Last year he went adventuring and had only 14 days sleeping inside the 
> room. The rest of the time he stays outside.
> He even with friend goes to New Zealand.
> While he travels he only spends $78$HK/day. (10$ US Dollars).
> He never worries about how much he has. He never counts how much he has. 
> That will make him nervous. He will put it in a small pocket and bury it in 
> the ground.".
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Geometry

[El Sapo]

Keith, don't you want to be between the stand over heights? I would think 
it would make it harder to choose if you were right on one of the numbers.  


On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 11:22:21 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:

> If the standover works for you, I think you're golden.  Me, I'm still 
> worrying.  Since they're shipping out in just a few days, this will by my 
> last obsessive, worry-driven, over-analysis.  Looking at the Clem and Hunq 
> charts together again, I just noticed something else.  Based on the 
> standover heights alone (which is the starting point in the normal process 
> of selecting a Rivendell bike), the sizes of these TWO MODELS COMBINED work 
> out very well in increments such that there is no overlap. Given all the 
> other similarities, its almost as if they're designed to work together:
>
> - *45 Clem* (74.9cm)
>  >  1.6cm delta
> - 48 Hunq (76.5cm)
>  >  2.6cm
> - 51 Hunq (79.1cm)
>  >  1.7cm
> - *52 Clem* (80.8cm)
>  >  2.0cm
> - 54 Hunq (82.8cm)
> 
>  >  3.9cm
>
> - 58 Hunq (86.7cm)
>  >  1.6cm
> - 5*9 Clem* (88.3cm)
>  >  2.3cm
> - 62 Hunq (90.6cm)
>
> My size, of course,  falls squarely in the middle of the *BIG* gap, 
> between the 54 and 58 Hunqapillars.   (Which is also squarely between the 
> 52 and 59 Clems.)   Other bike models that happen to share a 
> mysteriously-missing size, at the exact same increment, are the  XO-1 
> (57cm) and a Atlantis (59.5cm).   You know how, in the Clem Brochure, Grant 
> said that there's this weird, cosmic thing happening between Rivendell and 
> Shimano, whereby if they really like something it is sure to be 
> discontinued?  Well, there's this weird cosmic thing happening between me 
> and Grant whereby the bikes he's designed, that I am most attracted to, 
> don't really come in my size.
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2015 at 10:29:17 PM UTC-6, Tim Wood wrote:
>
>> Keith, great analysis. I have to admit, I thought I had a good grasp on 
>> fit and geometry charts, but can honestly say that I have I no idea how 
>> front centre translates to ride and fit. I come from a road background and 
>> always based my sizing on tt length and head tube (a little thought was put 
>> in to ht/st angles but again I didn't know how they translated).  For years 
>> I have been under the assumption that I needed a 57/58cm tt and that's 
>> that. So the thought of a 64cm tt is a lot to wrap my head around. 
>>
>> Like you said,I'm going to trust in the process and method and hope it 
>> all works out (gulp). What reassures me is the comparison you make between 
>> a 59 Clem and a 58 hunq being close in size and fit. I'm not sure why this 
>> reassures me cuz I've never ridden a 58 hunq, but I feel like if I were to 
>> buy one I'd buy a 58. Yikes. 
>>
>> Anyway, not gonna stress about it, just gonna open that box when it gets 
>> here and ride off in to the sunset with my bars high.and hope that I 
>> can reach them. 
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS OR FT: Sun Ringle ZUZU platform pedals

[mike gasparino]

Hey guys. building up an atlantis and i have a pair of black zuzu pedals 
that I was going to use but I'm going to go with a silver option instead. 
the pedals have never even seen a pair of shoes yet. they were however 
mounted on the cranks. If anyone has any equal value silver platforms they 
would want to trade let me know or I will sell for $45 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Keven

[Chris Chen]

When I was recovering from my crash, I called RBW to get a quote and Keven
had heard about it and was already in the process of ordering me a new
frame. It made me feel so incredibly special and cared for.

And he's like that with everyone!

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Zack  wrote:

> Just read the newsletter, I see that Keven is moving on to different
> pastures, just wanted to take a moment to publicly acknowledge that he is
> one of the nicest people I have ever come across in my life, and played a
> huge part in my uber-positive Riv experience, and I'll miss calling him to
> ask about things like "why won't these cranks fit this bike?" and other
> marginalia that most people are smart enough to figure out on their own.
>
> I'll send him a note personally, but thought it might be nice to have a
> little public thing here to recognize his part in the great Riv world.
>
> Go Kev Go!
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[RBW] I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Lynne Cooney]

Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
on this Cheviot today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/69421720@N02/22411754631/in/dateposted/

Next up: an Atlantis. I like rigid mountain bikes, but I'm old and slow and 
was hit by a car a few years ago. I don't actually want to do any mountain 
biking or go fast. I just like to ride bikes to get around.

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Jaquie P. has been posting more updates on Charlie's condition and recovery 
of late.

Stop by when you have the time and continue to spread the word 
- https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] Clems have shipped!

[Montclair BobbyB]

Other that witnessing the annual arrival of (many boxes of) Girl Scout 
Cookies at our office, I can't recall a more welcome sight... 

And despite life at the moment being so busy and stressful, the mere sight 
of that UPS box sitting on my doorstep next week will feel like a tropical 
breeze... 


On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 10:52:03 PM UTC-4, danmc wrote:
>
> Picture from outside RBW yesterday
>
> Dan
>
> [image: image1.JPG]
>
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Wayne Naha  
> wrote:
>
> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
>
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[RBW] Re: Best rear support rack for med sadlesack?

[Arthur Lewy]

I have years of happy service so far with my medium Saddlesack and an R14 
(Toprack).  The rack is attached at the rear dropouts with no problems managing 
appropriate loads.  The tie-down loops on the bag match up nicely with the rack 
width and make for a solid connection without sway.  In addition to 
functionality, the rack is an attractive addition to the Ram/Mark's rack combo.

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[RBW] Re: What fenders will best fit this frame?

[Scott Marriott]

Reach Around Fender brackets and flat bamboo fenders maybe an option here.

I have these on the rear of my MB-1 700c conversion and they definitely 
help with clearance.

http://store.rivercitybicycles.com/rcb-reacharound-fender-brackets/dp/12314 



On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 1:37:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I sent this mss to Cody who makes custom wood fenders, asking for his 
> judgment whether flat or curved wood would fit best. But I'd like others' 
> opinions about off the shelf possibilities.
>
> A narrow fender -- about 40 mm wide overall -- but with a shallow profile 
> would fit best, but this would have to be made for a tire with a diameter 
> just shy of 25". No one makes such a beast, as far as I know.
>
> I've mounted 35 and 40 mm PB and SKS 700 c fenders which have a nice, 
> shallow profile, but there is inevitably deformation near the brake bridge 
> and crown as the fender is forced to follow a tighter curve than its radius 
> is meant for.
>
> the 40 mm 650B Berthoud fits the curve better than any other off the shelf 
> one, but the profile is too tight.
>
> All the 559 bsd fenders I've seen are 50 or 60 mm wide. I suppose I could 
> cut out sections under crown and stays ...?
>
> It seems wood, custom, is the best option, but do y'all have better ideas?
>
>
> 
> From original email:
>
> Attachment would be at threaded bosses under crown and bridge.
>
> Gap under front brake caliper is about 11 mm. 
>
> Gap under rear brake caliper is about 8 mm.
>
> Rear fender would end just short of rearmost portion of tire; in other 
> words, it would be short so that I can shove the bike into a car without 
> putting pressure on the rear fender. I measure 34" from chainstay bridge to 
> the position on the tire where I'd like fender to end; note that this 
> measurement is with tape lying on the tire itself; if the fender is ~1cm 
> above, perhaps that would add additional length?
>
> Front would be long enough to bolt to the light mount/rack support arch. 
> Distance from center of fork crown to 1" beyond arch is 11.5"; again, this 
> is measured with tape lying on the tire.
>
> Overall length from arch to where I'd like it above ground is 32" -- 
> again, measured with tape lying on tire.
>
> What do you recommend for the best fit, flat or curved. Which is less 
> likely to warp? I'm more interested in fit and durability than fancy finish 
> or pattern.
>  
>

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[RBW] FS: 60cm STT Sam Hillborne complete

[Jeff B]

Price reduced to $1450, bike is in DC metro area. Details here:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/5280862199.html

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

Man!  That looks great!  That's the first production Clem released in the 
wild!  Nicely done.

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules are 
festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[iamkeith]

Fantastic!  I cant believe you guys beat me though.  I had convinced myself 
that I was certain to have been the first to jump in on day 1 or 2.

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What size Clem is that?



On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 2:45:29 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
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> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
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>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[James Warren]

Wonderful!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:45 PM, El Sapo  wrote:
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>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way!  W00t!
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[RBW] Re: Clementine tire size?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The first delivered production Clem has been posted and it appears to be a 
52" with 44mm tires (Kenda Kwick Seven-5).   



On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 10:23:26 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
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> OK, I see that the max tire size on the chart is 60. Does anyone know what 
> size the bikes will have as delivered?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Reid
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Joe Bernard]

Oh my, that's a really pretty blue. It reminds me of a '90/'91-ish 
Bridgestone MB-2 I've always liked. 

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:45:29 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
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>
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> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
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>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: I finally bought a Rivendell -- Cheviot!

[Wayne Naha]

Excellent!  Enjoy that Bike!

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-4, Lynne Cooney wrote:
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> Five years after almost buying a Betty Foy, but opting for a Retrovelo 
> instead (and I do like my Retrovelo better than the Betty Foy), I rode home 
> on this Cheviot today.
>
>
> Next up: an Atlantis. I like rigid mountain bikes, but I'm old and slow 
> and was hit by a car a few years ago. I don't actually want to do any 
> mountain biking or go fast. I just like to ride bikes to get around.
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Norman R]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOrZP2EpNk

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 5:40:29 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
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> Fantastic!  I cant believe you guys beat me though.  I had convinced 
> myself that I was certain to have been the first to jump in on day 1 or 2.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Keven

[Liesl]

PPS.  You're still gonna do guest modelling photo shoots for Vanity Riv 
Fair, right?

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