[RBW] Re: Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[Evan E.]

Great idea to donate to this forum! How do you do it, exactly? By way of a 
Paypal payment to Cyclofiend Jim? Or . . .? 


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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

[Eric Karnes]

Ha. Fantastic! It had swankier wheels back then.

I've been riding it for the last two weeks and it's absolutely fantastic. 
I've done fast-ish (for me) road rides, gravel paths, and some general 
wandering with lunch, gloves, and a raincoat in my Saddlesack...it has 
excelled at everything. I may also try some cyclocross tires like the 
Roadeo recently featured on the Blug. With the exception of my old Trek 
commuter, I've decided to sell all of my other bikes (if anyone is looking 
for a neat old Litespeed mountain bike or barely-used CrossCheck, lemme 
know). 

I ended up taking of the albatross bars off and replacing them with VO 
porteur bars. I really like this setup. With road levers set up like on a 
mustache bar, it gives a bunch of hand positions. And it gives a much more 
responsive feel than the high, wide albas. 

And a SE PA non-race ride sounds like a great plan.

Eric



On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 7:24:57 PM UTC-4, Paul G wrote:
>
> Congratulations on the Roadeo. Your actual bike convinced me to order one. 
> I tested it back in August of 2013. This is what it looked like on the day 
> of my test ride in Walnut Creek.
>

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[RBW] Re: My (f)Atlantis in the new Bunyan Velo

[Deacon Patrick]

Tim, one trick with the boot trick is an extra set of liners to change 
into. One is drying, one is getting sweated into. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:16:52 PM UTC-6, tim@nike.com wrote:
>
> Well done Mark. I'll have to try your boot trick. I hate cold feet!

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[RBW] Re: My (f)Atlantis in the new Bunyan Velo

[tim.cl...@nike.com]

Well done Mark. I'll have to try your boot trick. I hate cold feet!

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[RBW] Re: My (f)Atlantis in the new Bunyan Velo

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Congrats -- I love Bunyan Velo! Nice write-up, and great photos, as usual.

Bob E

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[RBW] Re: Chicago

[Matt Beecher]

There is the Prairie Path and the Fox River Trail.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Prairie_Path

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_River_Trail_(Illinois)

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 3:58:13 PM UTC-5, Carla Waugh wrote:
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> Hello anyone in the group have any ideas for good biking in Chicago or 
> surrounding areas? More road or path not mountain biking. Thanks ahead of 
> time. Looking at last part of June.

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[RBW] Re: Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[dougP]

This is an interesting idea. All those odd bits not really worth much hassle 
but useful to someone. Lighten the load & help support the forum at the same 
time. Thanks for thinking this up.

Doug P

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[RBW] Re: Chicago

[DB]

I left Chicago about 3 years ago but I used to like riding on the Des 
Plaines River Trail 
 which is easy 
to get to via the Metra.  It is a dirt path through the forest preserve. 
 Like the rest of Chicago, it is completely flat.  I also recommend The 
North Shore Trail is a paved trail that heads up to the Botanic Garden and 
beyond.  Of course, the Lakefront Path beautiful but is overly congested on 
the weekends.

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> Hello anyone in the group have any ideas for good biking in Chicago or 
> surrounding areas? More road or path not mountain biking. Thanks ahead of 
> time. Looking at last part of June.

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[RBW] Re: Chicago

[Diablo Stelvio]

When I was visiting Chicago a few years ago some local cyclists took me to 
the North Branch Trail. It was a decent mixed-use trail that did cross city 
streets at times, but mostly thru wooded parks and suburban housing  areas. 
It was worth the drive from the downtown hotel where I stayed. Not as busy 
as the Lakeshore bike trail.

http://fpdcc.com/preserves-and-trails/trail-descriptions/

Cheers,
DS

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> Hello anyone in the group have any ideas for good biking in Chicago or 
> surrounding areas? More road or path not mountain biking. Thanks ahead of 
> time. Looking at last part of June.

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[RBW] Re: s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Jack Doran]

Thanks for the post, Mark. Without being able to say exactly why, these 
photos look like they were shot to film? Yes? If not, could you tell me 
what camera you were using?

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[RBW] Re: Chicago

[George Schick]

Carla - surf into www.thechainlink.org and ask that ask that question.  You 
may need to join the blog, but I guarantee you'll get good answers.

George


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> Hello anyone in the group have any ideas for good biking in Chicago or 
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> time. Looking at last part of June.

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Anne]

The G-Ones have been great. Pavement, dirt, gravel, chunky stuff. No 
issues. Only loved tires I can compare to here are the Pasela (which I 
detest how they knife in due to their oval shape) and the sluggish riding 
Jack brown and their ilk.

G-Ones roll, are pliable and comfy. Sufficient grip but not intrusive. 

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[RBW] Bridgestone X0-1 on the Radavist

[Jack Doran]

Dig the drilled stem, orange Paul cable carrier and cream Rubinas. Proper!

http://theradavist.com/2016/05/nathans-bridgestone-xo-1-touring-bike/#1

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Re: [RBW] s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Deacon Patrick]

See all that a whole lot faster and ramp up the adventure factor with bike 
sailing! Grin.
http://whike.com/en/

Developed in Holland, there is likely room for dike and canal jumping as 
other extreme events. Go further north for extreme caribou herding. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:26:28 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> and our winds certainly can  make up for not so much hilly 
> terrain...they've been strong NE winds for the last couple of 
> weeks...weird. As I recall we get strong SW winds around this time of year. 
> St. Malo has a pretty nice campground  and it's even nicer when  there are 
> no other campers
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:55:45 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Well you've pretty much seen it all now! There is a hooole 
>> lotta flat nothing here :)
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Ryan Fleming]

and our winds certainly can  make up for not so much hilly 
terrain...they've been strong NE winds for the last couple of 
weeks...weird. As I recall we get strong SW winds around this time of year. 
St. Malo has a pretty nice campground  and it's even nicer when  there are 
no other campers

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:55:45 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Well you've pretty much seen it all now! There is a hooole 
> lotta flat nothing here :)
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:37:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Kudos. Interesting to see Canadian plains landscapes for a change. 
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
>>
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>>> This past weekend I had an amusing request from my wife. "Could you 
>>> please go on one of those bike camping trips this weekend? Like for the 
>>> whole weekend?"
>>>
>>> For context, my wife works at a non-profit that grants 'dreams' to kids 
>>> with life-threatening or terminal diseases. Sending them to Disney, playing 
>>> hockey with their favourite player, meeting a celebrity, that kinda thing. 
>>> They were holding their annual fundraising auction which meant she worked 
>>> from 7am to 3am and wanted a weekend at home alone to recover. I was happy 
>>> to accommodate!
>>>
>>> Typically my s24o's are of the 2-3 hour ride variety. But this time I 
>>> figured I'd try riding to a French town 100km south of home, St Malo. The 
>>> town is interesting in that it's sitting on the Crow Wing Trail, an old 
>>> Metis trading route. That means a mix of gravel roads, dirt roads, trails, 
>>> and a touch of single track. Perfect!
>>>
>>> I rounded up two friends and we hit the road on Saturday at noon. The 
>>> wind had picked up and was blowing hard as a cross-tail wind. There were a 
>>> few sections where we could ride three-abreast, spin easy, and marvel at 
>>> the idyllic conditions. Then we'd round a corner and stop dead in our 
>>> tracks as the gale-force winds ground us to a halt. The sun was out in 
>>> force for the first time all year. We all felt our skin burning, despite 
>>> liberal applications of SPF 60 sunscreen. It was amusing to realize just 
>>> how pasty our skin had become after 6 months of winter.
>>>
>>> It's always a treat to be able to ride dirt roads. Two weeks earlier, a 
>>> friend attempted the same route on his fat bike. He told me within half a 
>>> mile his bike was brought to a complete halt, requiring him to remove his 
>>> wheels (which weighed about 25 pounds each with the mud) and walk each 
>>> wheel out individually, followed by his frame. Such is the power of 
>>> Manitoba gumbo. Thankfully for us, they were dry, packed, and fast!
>>>
>>> Just shy of our goal, we stopped in another French town called St Pierre 
>>> Jolys. Strangely it had a german schnitzel house called Oma's Schnitzel 
>>> Stube. Obviously we stopped. Schnitzel and german beers were consumed till 
>>> we could scarcely walk. The final 14km to town were slow and wobbly. 
>>>
>>> Reaching St Malo around 8pm after 8 hours on the road, we had about an 
>>> hour to setup camp and get dinner ready. I tried making spicy peanut pad 
>>> thai using a recipe from bikepacking.com - a great success! We were 
>>> treated to a vibrant sunset on a glassy lake, with loons singing their 
>>> haunting tune in the distance. Since it's still so early in the season, we 
>>> were free of bugs, ticks, other campers, and nuisances of all kinds. 
>>>
>>> The following morning it was up by 8am for oatmeal with cinnamon, fresh 

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

[Ron Mc]

Rene, should work fine - these really stretch.  

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:11:24 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> I assume the larger size labeled for 28-35mm tires will work well with the 
> 38mm Barlow Pass tired, right? How about with the Soma 42mm tires?
>
> René 
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2016, Ron Mc  wrote:
>
>> ps - especially on the Barlows (but even on the 27mm Open Paves) I love 
>> the sound they make on tar strips.  They sound (and feel) like an 
>> under--pressure soccer ball.  If you over-pressure them, they bounce like a 
>> soccer ball.  
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Re: [RBW] s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Mark Reimer]

Well you've pretty much seen it all now! There is a hooole 
lotta flat nothing here :)

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:37:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kudos. Interesting to see Canadian plains landscapes for a change. 
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mark Reimer  > wrote:
>
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>> 
>> This past weekend I had an amusing request from my wife. "Could you 
>> please go on one of those bike camping trips this weekend? Like for the 
>> whole weekend?"
>>
>> For context, my wife works at a non-profit that grants 'dreams' to kids 
>> with life-threatening or terminal diseases. Sending them to Disney, playing 
>> hockey with their favourite player, meeting a celebrity, that kinda thing. 
>> They were holding their annual fundraising auction which meant she worked 
>> from 7am to 3am and wanted a weekend at home alone to recover. I was happy 
>> to accommodate!
>>
>> Typically my s24o's are of the 2-3 hour ride variety. But this time I 
>> figured I'd try riding to a French town 100km south of home, St Malo. The 
>> town is interesting in that it's sitting on the Crow Wing Trail, an old 
>> Metis trading route. That means a mix of gravel roads, dirt roads, trails, 
>> and a touch of single track. Perfect!
>>
>> I rounded up two friends and we hit the road on Saturday at noon. The 
>> wind had picked up and was blowing hard as a cross-tail wind. There were a 
>> few sections where we could ride three-abreast, spin easy, and marvel at 
>> the idyllic conditions. Then we'd round a corner and stop dead in our 
>> tracks as the gale-force winds ground us to a halt. The sun was out in 
>> force for the first time all year. We all felt our skin burning, despite 
>> liberal applications of SPF 60 sunscreen. It was amusing to realize just 
>> how pasty our skin had become after 6 months of winter.
>>
>> It's always a treat to be able to ride dirt roads. Two weeks earlier, a 
>> friend attempted the same route on his fat bike. He told me within half a 
>> mile his bike was brought to a complete halt, requiring him to remove his 
>> wheels (which weighed about 25 pounds each with the mud) and walk each 
>> wheel out individually, followed by his frame. Such is the power of 
>> Manitoba gumbo. Thankfully for us, they were dry, packed, and fast!
>>
>> Just shy of our goal, we stopped in another French town called St Pierre 
>> Jolys. Strangely it had a german schnitzel house called Oma's Schnitzel 
>> Stube. Obviously we stopped. Schnitzel and german beers were consumed till 
>> we could scarcely walk. The final 14km to town were slow and wobbly. 
>>
>> Reaching St Malo around 8pm after 8 hours on the road, we had about an 
>> hour to setup camp and get dinner ready. I tried making spicy peanut pad 
>> thai using a recipe from bikepacking.com - a great success! We were 
>> treated to a vibrant sunset on a glassy lake, with loons singing their 
>> haunting tune in the distance. Since it's still so early in the season, we 
>> were free of bugs, ticks, other campers, and nuisances of all kinds. 
>>
>> The following morning it was up by 8am for oatmeal with cinnamon, fresh 
>> raspberries, almonds and maple syrup. Oddly enough I woke up feeling quite 
>> dizzy and ill, maybe dehydrated from the hot ride in. The ill feelings 
>> cleared up soon enough though, and we pushed through the 80km home in only 
>> 5 hours despite a constant headwind. I saw two massive vultures perched on 
>> an abandoned barn, a first for me in Manitoba. 
>>
>> After all was said and done we covered just under 200km, legs sore but 

Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Patrick Moore]

I'll let y'all into another secret at no additional charge: nail and
hammer, with medium sized nut for anvil, work well for breaking and
re-assembling chains.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Grant Petersen  wrote:

> "The hard, cheap, Indian threading way, using Vise Grips for the lockring
> and a nail and hammer for the cup" is one of the most fantastic
> descriptions of anything I've ever read. Good point about Ashtabula cranks.
> A guy came by the other day with one of those, and of course it was on a
> ten-year old hundred-dollar (today's dollars) bike, but it was pared down
> to nothing, not an unnecessary molecule of metal on it, and ... I though
> wow, kind of neat. Bigger and more bearings inside would be good, but has
> anybody ever ridden one of these guys to destruction?
> No need to start a kickstarter campaign to bring back the bad-ol'
> Ashtabula, but ... they are no laughing stocks.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Patrick Moore]

Well, it seems I am prescient or something. Now if they could make
something like that out of cold forged aluminum, I'd be more interested.

Look claims 320 grams sans rings and doubtless bolts; what about the
bearings -- included in that claimed 320 grams? What would 2 rings and
hardware add?

Frankly, this design, with appropriately wide bb shell, seems to make more
sense than external bearings in a smaller shell.

Meanwhile, of course, the old square taper system works at least as well as
the Ashtabula without many of the drawbacks -- weight, limitations on crank
arm design, use of cartridge bearing assemblies, and so forth.

But Ashtabulas, with all their drawbacks, certainly have a history of
shrugging off decades of neglect and working well.

Segway (tm): what, in all y'all's opinion, is the very best design for a bb
bearing assembly? Me, I really think that some sort of refinement of the
Ashtabula makes most sense.

Note that I've struggled with cheap, Indian made cottered cranksets, and
I've used Raleigh cottered systems, too, which are hugely better. But
certainly the cotter system was well left behind by the "cotterless"
system, as they used to call square taper setups until at least the '60s.

Patrick "bottom bracket = that short, thick frame tube; spindle = the crank
axle; bb bearing assembly = the bearings and such" Moore

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[RBW] Re: s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Mark,
Sounds like a great time! Thanks for the write-up and pics.
Tis the season!
Jon




>
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Re: [RBW] s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Patrick Moore]

Kudos. Interesting to see Canadian plains landscapes for a change.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

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> 
> This past weekend I had an amusing request from my wife. "Could you please
> go on one of those bike camping trips this weekend? Like for the whole
> weekend?"
>
> For context, my wife works at a non-profit that grants 'dreams' to kids
> with life-threatening or terminal diseases. Sending them to Disney, playing
> hockey with their favourite player, meeting a celebrity, that kinda thing.
> They were holding their annual fundraising auction which meant she worked
> from 7am to 3am and wanted a weekend at home alone to recover. I was happy
> to accommodate!
>
> Typically my s24o's are of the 2-3 hour ride variety. But this time I
> figured I'd try riding to a French town 100km south of home, St Malo. The
> town is interesting in that it's sitting on the Crow Wing Trail, an old
> Metis trading route. That means a mix of gravel roads, dirt roads, trails,
> and a touch of single track. Perfect!
>
> I rounded up two friends and we hit the road on Saturday at noon. The wind
> had picked up and was blowing hard as a cross-tail wind. There were a few
> sections where we could ride three-abreast, spin easy, and marvel at the
> idyllic conditions. Then we'd round a corner and stop dead in our tracks as
> the gale-force winds ground us to a halt. The sun was out in force for the
> first time all year. We all felt our skin burning, despite liberal
> applications of SPF 60 sunscreen. It was amusing to realize just how pasty
> our skin had become after 6 months of winter.
>
> It's always a treat to be able to ride dirt roads. Two weeks earlier, a
> friend attempted the same route on his fat bike. He told me within half a
> mile his bike was brought to a complete halt, requiring him to remove his
> wheels (which weighed about 25 pounds each with the mud) and walk each
> wheel out individually, followed by his frame. Such is the power of
> Manitoba gumbo. Thankfully for us, they were dry, packed, and fast!
>
> Just shy of our goal, we stopped in another French town called St Pierre
> Jolys. Strangely it had a german schnitzel house called Oma's Schnitzel
> Stube. Obviously we stopped. Schnitzel and german beers were consumed till
> we could scarcely walk. The final 14km to town were slow and wobbly.
>
> Reaching St Malo around 8pm after 8 hours on the road, we had about an
> hour to setup camp and get dinner ready. I tried making spicy peanut pad
> thai using a recipe from bikepacking.com - a great success! We were
> treated to a vibrant sunset on a glassy lake, with loons singing their
> haunting tune in the distance. Since it's still so early in the season, we
> were free of bugs, ticks, other campers, and nuisances of all kinds.
>
> The following morning it was up by 8am for oatmeal with cinnamon, fresh
> raspberries, almonds and maple syrup. Oddly enough I woke up feeling quite
> dizzy and ill, maybe dehydrated from the hot ride in. The ill feelings
> cleared up soon enough though, and we pushed through the 80km home in only
> 5 hours despite a constant headwind. I saw two massive vultures perched on
> an abandoned barn, a first for me in Manitoba.
>
> After all was said and done we covered just under 200km, legs sore but
> content, ready for the next one at the end of May. Hope you all had a great
> weekend of riding as well.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 

[RBW] Re: s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome first bikepack of the spring! Funny how vastly varied conditions 
can be with the addition or subtraction of a bit of moisture. Love that 
sunset and this: "we were free of bugs, ticks, other campers, and nuisances 
of all kinds"!!! That's the dream!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Tire suggestions.....

[Mark Reimer]

One more for the Thunder Burt, in the lightest version you can get them. My 
pavement tire is also a Compass Barlow Pass EL 38mm. Everything else is 
Thunder Burts. You can even fit the 2.25 in an Atlantis, though the 
clearance doesn't leave much room if you ride in wet mud. 

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 4:09:01 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> 2.1" Thunder Burts. Hands down. I don't mess with the sidewall or other 
> flat protection and do just fine. They are as close to 2.1" x 700 Barlow 
> Pass as you're going to get. They are delicious.
>
> I ride them in any and all conditions (smooth asphalt, chip seal, gravel 
> of all varieties, mud, slop, snow and ice slop, single track, breaking 
> trail through powder or wet spring snow up to 12" deep. They handle it all 
> very well. Even if Jan put out a 2.1" tire, I'd scratch my head wondering 
> which way to go.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 10:42:04 AM UTC-6, mothtoflame wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am wanting to throw some large tires on my Atlantis. I am writing in 
>> hope that someone will have suggestions that might help me decide. Here is 
>> what I am looking for:
>>
>> 1. Holds up well on medium to loose gravel, but still rolls nicely on 
>> pavement. 
>> 2. Ideally something with a bit of protection to it. Doesn't need to be 
>> bulletproof by any means. 
>> 3. Something in the 2.1" range.
>>
>>
>> That's it. Currently I ride Compass Barlow Pass 38s, and I do love them 
>> for the most part. Best feeling tire that I have ever ridden hands down. 
>> Just looking to mix it up a bit and go exploring on a beefier tire!
>>
>> Thanks for the help :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benjamin 
>>
>

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[RBW] s24o report: Howling wind, sunburns, mud roads, and schnitzel

[Mark Reimer]

This past weekend I had an amusing request from my wife. "Could you please 
go on one of those bike camping trips this weekend? Like for the whole 
weekend?"

For context, my wife works at a non-profit that grants 'dreams' to kids 
with life-threatening or terminal diseases. Sending them to Disney, playing 
hockey with their favourite player, meeting a celebrity, that kinda thing. 
They were holding their annual fundraising auction which meant she worked 
from 7am to 3am and wanted a weekend at home alone to recover. I was happy 
to accommodate!

Typically my s24o's are of the 2-3 hour ride variety. But this time I 
figured I'd try riding to a French town 100km south of home, St Malo. The 
town is interesting in that it's sitting on the Crow Wing Trail, an old 
Metis trading route. That means a mix of gravel roads, dirt roads, trails, 
and a touch of single track. Perfect!

I rounded up two friends and we hit the road on Saturday at noon. The wind 
had picked up and was blowing hard as a cross-tail wind. There were a few 
sections where we could ride three-abreast, spin easy, and marvel at the 
idyllic conditions. Then we'd round a corner and stop dead in our tracks as 
the gale-force winds ground us to a halt. The sun was out in force for the 
first time all year. We all felt our skin burning, despite liberal 
applications of SPF 60 sunscreen. It was amusing to realize just how pasty 
our skin had become after 6 months of winter.

It's always a treat to be able to ride dirt roads. Two weeks earlier, a 
friend attempted the same route on his fat bike. He told me within half a 
mile his bike was brought to a complete halt, requiring him to remove his 
wheels (which weighed about 25 pounds each with the mud) and walk each 
wheel out individually, followed by his frame. Such is the power of 
Manitoba gumbo. Thankfully for us, they were dry, packed, and fast!

Just shy of our goal, we stopped in another French town called St Pierre 
Jolys. Strangely it had a german schnitzel house called Oma's Schnitzel 
Stube. Obviously we stopped. Schnitzel and german beers were consumed till 
we could scarcely walk. The final 14km to town were slow and wobbly. 

Reaching St Malo around 8pm after 8 hours on the road, we had about an hour 
to setup camp and get dinner ready. I tried making spicy peanut pad thai 
using a recipe from bikepacking.com - a great success! We were treated to a 
vibrant sunset on a glassy lake, with loons singing their haunting tune in 
the distance. Since it's still so early in the season, we were free of 
bugs, ticks, other campers, and nuisances of all kinds. 

The following morning it was up by 8am for oatmeal with cinnamon, fresh 
raspberries, almonds and maple syrup. Oddly enough I woke up feeling quite 
dizzy and ill, maybe dehydrated from the hot ride in. The ill feelings 
cleared up soon enough though, and we pushed through the 80km home in only 
5 hours despite a constant headwind. I saw two massive vultures perched on 
an abandoned barn, a first for me in Manitoba. 

After all was said and done we covered just under 200km, legs sore but 
content, ready for the next one at the end of May. Hope you all had a great 
weekend of riding as well. 

Re: [RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

[René Sterental]

I assume the larger size labeled for 28-35mm tires will work well with the
38mm Barlow Pass tired, right? How about with the Soma 42mm tires?

René

On Monday, May 2, 2016, Ron Mc  wrote:

> ps - especially on the Barlows (but even on the 27mm Open Paves) I love
> the sound they make on tar strips.  They sound (and feel) like an
> under--pressure soccer ball.  If you over-pressure them, they bounce like a
> soccer ball.
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[RBW] Re: Tire suggestions.....

[Deacon Patrick]

2.1" Thunder Burts. Hands down. I don't mess with the sidewall or other 
flat protection and do just fine. They are as close to 2.1" x 700 Barlow 
Pass as you're going to get. They are delicious.

I ride them in any and all conditions (smooth asphalt, chip seal, gravel of 
all varieties, mud, slop, snow and ice slop, single track, breaking trail 
through powder or wet spring snow up to 12" deep. They handle it all very 
well. Even if Jan put out a 2.1" tire, I'd scratch my head wondering which 
way to go.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 10:42:04 AM UTC-6, mothtoflame wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am wanting to throw some large tires on my Atlantis. I am writing in 
> hope that someone will have suggestions that might help me decide. Here is 
> what I am looking for:
>
> 1. Holds up well on medium to loose gravel, but still rolls nicely on 
> pavement. 
> 2. Ideally something with a bit of protection to it. Doesn't need to be 
> bulletproof by any means. 
> 3. Something in the 2.1" range.
>
>
> That's it. Currently I ride Compass Barlow Pass 38s, and I do love them 
> for the most part. Best feeling tire that I have ever ridden hands down. 
> Just looking to mix it up a bit and go exploring on a beefier tire!
>
> Thanks for the help :)
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin 
>

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[RBW] Re: Tire suggestions.....

[Will]

check the Riv site: Big Bens... 

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 11:42:04 AM UTC-5, mothtoflame wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am wanting to throw some large tires on my Atlantis. I am writing in 
> hope that someone will have suggestions that might help me decide. Here is 
> what I am looking for:
>
> 1. Holds up well on medium to loose gravel, but still rolls nicely on 
> pavement. 
> 2. Ideally something with a bit of protection to it. Doesn't need to be 
> bulletproof by any means. 
> 3. Something in the 2.1" range.
>
>
> That's it. Currently I ride Compass Barlow Pass 38s, and I do love them 
> for the most part. Best feeling tire that I have ever ridden hands down. 
> Just looking to mix it up a bit and go exploring on a beefier tire!
>
> Thanks for the help :)
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grizzly Peak Century mixed terrain options - May 1, 2016

[Jack Doran]

Was pretty fun, but the trails out of Port Costa and through Briones were 
severely rutted, making climbing difficult and descending even more 
unpleasant. Still super happy to mix it up a bit, but I'm not hurrying back 
out there and I ultimately wound up bailing about 2/3 the way through.

dstein, to answer your question, I was running Hetres (650bx42) with a 
steel road frame. Letting some pressure out helped, of course, but not to a 
great degree. Definitely glad to have the much needed rainfall we've been 
getting, but combined with the livestock using the trails, it made for a 
super bumpy, exhausting ride. There was a guy riding with us for awhile 
with a full suspension MTB, and *he *was even finding it a pain in the ass.

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[RBW] Chicago

[Carla Waugh]

Hello anyone in the group have any ideas for good biking in Chicago or 
surrounding areas? More road or path not mountain biking. Thanks ahead of time. 
Looking at last part of June.

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[RBW] FS: (3) Pairs of 650b tires and a 61cm Soma GR frame, fork and headset

[William R.]

Hi. I'm selling these items to clear the way for some accessories for my 
Joe Appaloosa. Figured I would try here first. Prices INCLUDE shipping to 
the lower 48 states.

Compass Switchback Hill tires, 650b x 48, EL version, 1 Pair, very slightly 
used, $120

Schwalbe Big Ben tires, 650b x 50, non-folding wire bead (figure 8-ed for 
shipping), 1 Pair, less than 500 miles, $60

Soma Cazadero tires, 650b x 42, 1 Pair, less than 250 miles, $100 (haven't 
taken any photos of these yet)

Soma Grand Randonneur frame, fork and Velo Orange headset, 61cm, first 
generation, repainted fork, all in very good shape, $350

I have more photos of everything or can take more. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: May Day Grocery Run

[Deacon Patrick]

Today I rode this same route, 48 hours later. No snow, barely a hint of 
mud. 30 mph chinook winds make fast work of spring thaw! I made much faster 
work of the ride too. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 12:01:42 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> A bit of everything except dry and warm! Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/with-abandon/
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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Kainalu]

They're better than Smart Sams and unguarded Paselas. Never used a Compass, 
thus the shame and unknowing.
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] My (f)Atlantis in the new Bunyan Velo

['Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Full of amazing and inspiring photos... and beards!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Brewster Fong]

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 12:23:33 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 7:52:55 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> My vote for the best value-for-money crank/bb bearing assembly type is 
>> the Ashtabula; I wonder if these could be refined and lightened? Carbon 
>> fiber? But, in any event, they seem indestructible, even after riding 
>> through streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging.
>>
>
> Patrick,
>
> Where have you been?! Yes, Look has its one-piece, carbon fiber (what 
> else?!) Ashtabula-type crank on the market since about 2011:
>
> Zed 2 crankset:
>
>
> http://branfordbike.com/images/library/features/look_zed2crank_small_11_f.jpg
>
>
> http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Praxis-Works-OEM-Chainrings-Look-Crankset-2.jpg
>
> Zed 3 crankset:
>
>
> http://www.lookcycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/560x374/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/z/3/z3_03.jpg
>
>
> http://www.lookcycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/560x374/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/z/3/z3_02.jpg
>
>
> I think you have to find a Look dealer to get more info.  
>
> I did find Glory Cycles has the Zed 2 for $1250:
>
> http://glorycycles.com/look-zed-2-crankset/
>
> So it's not cheap! 
>
> Good Luck! 
>
> Patrick, never mind!  It appears the Look Zed cranksets are only 
compatible with frames that have a 65mm bottom bracket shell?!  It is my 
understand that even Look only offers one frame that fits this crank?! 

http://www.lookcycle.com/en/us/route/velos/695-light-bike.html

But I did find one shop that has this frameset and crankset "on sale" for 
$4550!

https://www.racycles.com/road/look/look-695-aerolight-premium-ipack-3051

Calfee is the only other builder I found who offers a frame for this crank, 
but is a package deal, but it is only for its Manta Pro frameset module 
that retails for $6095, and includes; Chris King Inset 7, Enve/Whisky fork, 
Look ZED2 crankset and Praxis Works chainrings.  That's a lot of 
moneyGood Luck! 

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Bill Lindsay]

Yes there were both 150mm and a 200mm extension bullmoose bars from 
Riv/Nitto for a while.  Now there is only a 150mm.  Ian is right that your 
hands are even with the stem bolt.  Your brakes are FAR closer to you on 
Bullmoose bars than they are on Albastache bars, for example.  

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> arent there 2 different extension lengths of these? i feel like ive seen 
> super long ones and normal ones
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[RBW] WTB: Paul RHUB, or possibly other hub

[Mark Reimer]

Hi there friends,

I'm on the hunt for another Paul RHUB, which is Paul's discontinued rear 
hub. I put a 36h hub on my Atlantis a few months ago and it's been 
flawless. Looks great, sounds great, I'm happy. I'm putting together a 26+ 
bike now and I've got some polished Velocity Dually's on the way. I need a 
front and rear hub to go with it. I had a used pair of hubs arranged, but 
the deal just fell through as the seller decided to keep them. Darn! So...

Anyone here have a silver (polished if possible) Rhub they'd consider 
selling? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Brewster Fong]

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 7:52:55 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>
> My vote for the best value-for-money crank/bb bearing assembly type is the 
> Ashtabula; I wonder if these could be refined and lightened? Carbon fiber? 
> But, in any event, they seem indestructible, even after riding through 
> streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging.
>

Patrick,

Where have you been?! Yes, Look has its one-piece, carbon fiber (what 
else?!) Ashtabula-type crank on the market since about 2011:

Zed 2 crankset:

http://branfordbike.com/images/library/features/look_zed2crank_small_11_f.jpg

http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Praxis-Works-OEM-Chainrings-Look-Crankset-2.jpg

Zed 3 crankset:

http://www.lookcycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/560x374/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/z/3/z3_03.jpg

http://www.lookcycle.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/560x374/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/z/3/z3_02.jpg


I think you have to find a Look dealer to get more info.  

I did find Glory Cycles has the Zed 2 for $1250:

http://glorycycles.com/look-zed-2-crankset/

So it's not cheap! 

Good Luck! 

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[drew]

arent there 2 different extension lengths of these? i feel like ive seen 
super long ones and normal ones

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Re: [RBW] Tire suggestions.....

[Patrick Moore]

The Furious Fred is nice, too and rolls quite well on pavement. While they
are not "beefier" than the Compass tires, they've stood up well to the dirt
(mostly) and gravel (quite a bit) that I've ridden them on.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:17 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> +1 to the Thunder Burt.
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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Patrick Moore]

How do they compare with Compass extra lights in the same general size? I
see that the G Ones are "gravel" tires and 460 grams with some tread, but
I'm curious how they might compare with, say, the Compass tires and with
the Thunderburt and Furious Fred, if you've tried either of these.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Kainalu  wrote:

> They're the best tires I've ever rolled, and I've ridden well over 2% of
> the tires commonly gushed over on this forum. Hopefully some of the 99%ers
> will weigh in on this as all I've got backing my opinion is capitalization.
> Thanks
> -Kai
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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[ian m]

I use the bullmoose on the spectacularly long toptubed Clem. I would never 
have thought I could fit a 61cm top tube bike, being 5'8", but the 
bullmoose give the perfect upright yet semi aggressive stance,

Good way to visualize the fit is the bullmoose puts your hands in line with 
the stem bolt

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 12:40:57 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments so far. I am referring to the bull moose that is 
> like a boomerang and not the bull moose bosco bars.  I do have a longer 
> torso than legs.  The sweep is like I have on a few other bikes but don't 
> have the stem like comes integral with the bullmooses.  Keep the comments 
> coming please!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Garth]

  How cool, Tange cup and cone BB's !I do rather miss them .   I always 
found them no brainers to work on, thanks to Eugene Sloane's New Complete 
Book of Bicycling !   I bought it new as a teen and learned everything 
about how to do all my own mechanic works from it.  Taking the bike to the 
shop seemed just too drawn out .  Why would I want to wait to do this or 
that on my bike when it's right here in front of me ?  
 Doh !   

 It was only later when worked in a bike shop assembling and repairing 
bikes did I discover they made really really cool tools for jobs like 
bottom bracket shells and cups and installing headsets that back then 
prolly were not for sale to the public or easily obtained.  They had a full 
Campy shop tool kit  . . .  . wow! I was like a kid in a candy store, so 
much fun !!  Ahahahaahahahahahaha .

  

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 4:38:27 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
>
>
> The Tange BB's will be available in a range of dimensions, Eleven caged 
> balls, not nine. Hard and smooth, best finish. Some details still being 
> worked on, and we're not the drivers of this project, but have had some 
> input. There is no ETA on 'em. Strike 2.8!
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Tire suggestions.....

[David Banzer]

+1 to the Thunder Burt. 

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[RBW] Re: Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[boomer]

"sold"

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:51:22 AM UTC-7, boomer wrote:
>
> I'm in the same situation with lots of parts that are tough to price/sell 
> with the cost of shipping.
>
> I'll probably have more "free" with donation postings in the near future.
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:48:49 AM UTC-7, boomer wrote:
>>
>> Pending with a back up.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:40:44 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>> That's very generous and I'd take you up on this but I'm mobile and 
>>> can't reply directly.  I have a pile of stuff that's too much of a drag to 
>>> sell but plenty good.  Thanks for paying it forward.
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo

[Brian Campbell]

Beautiful Riv! We should do a SE PA (and anyone else who wants to come 
along )non-race oriented ride. I am in Chester County and would be happy to 
host something. There seem to be a number of us in the great Philly area. 

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Will]

I think you should measure your other bikes. Find out how far your comfort 
level is. I have a feeling these bars will be too far forward, given 
Hillborn's long top tube. The "stem" on these is 15 cm. that's longer than 
what Riv specs for the build kits. For the drop bar Sam, which is the 
closest in reach to the bullmose, Riv specs a 9cm stem. 

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 8:36:16 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Hi all.  New(er) member but I have been a lurker for some time now.  The 
> title kind of says it all.  I have an orange SH on order - frame only - 
> that is coming in as we speak per the website.  I was thinking of putting a 
> bullmoose handlebar/stem combo on it.  I've googled for images of a Sam 
> with a bullmoose and have come up empty.  I have other bikes that have 
> similar shapes to the bar such as the Noah's Arc bar and a Seven custom (17 
> degrees) that I enjoy every much.  Has anyone run this combo or is there 
> some reason why I should not?  Your thoughts appreciated.  oh - my riding 
> is really for fun and fitness on gravel and paved trails and back paved 
> roads so nothing too wild.  thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[drew]

i think they would work fine. my problems with vintage bullmoose bars were 
that i couldnt ever get them high enough and they didnt sweep back at all. 
the rivendell version is taller and more sweepy, and the hillborne geometry 
allows for bars to go higher up, so why not. 

also, to my eye, they are one of the prettiest looking bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Tire suggestions.....

[Tim Gavin]

Schwalbe Thunder Burt!

They're pretty fast and mostly silent on pavement, faster than any other
knobby/light knobby tire and as fast as Schwalbe Super Motos.  Yet, the
knobs give them superior traction on dirt/gravel compared to any slick
tire.  The shoulder knobs stay out of the way until you corner, so they
don't drag.

You can get them in Liteskin, Raceguard, and Snakeskin (TL Easy) versions,
in 26", 650b, and 700c diameters.  I have the Liteskins in 26 x 2.1".

They can be purchased relatively cheaply from overseas bike sales outlets.

Tim

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 9:21 PM, mothtoflame  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am wanting to throw some large tires on my Atlantis. I am writing in
> hope that someone will have suggestions that might help me decide. Here is
> what I am looking for:
>
> 1. Holds up well on medium to loose gravel, but still rolls nicely on
> pavement.
> 2. Ideally something with a bit of protection to it. Doesn't need to be
> bulletproof by any means.
> 3. Something in the 2.1" range.
>
>
> That's it. Currently I ride Compass Barlow Pass 38s, and I do love them
> for the most part. Best feeling tire that I have ever ridden hands down.
> Just looking to mix it up a bit and go exploring on a beefier tire!
>
> Thanks for the help :)
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin
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[RBW] Tire suggestions.....

[mothtoflame]

Hello all,

I am wanting to throw some large tires on my Atlantis. I am writing in hope 
that someone will have suggestions that might help me decide. Here is what 
I am looking for:

1. Holds up well on medium to loose gravel, but still rolls nicely on 
pavement. 
2. Ideally something with a bit of protection to it. Doesn't need to be 
bulletproof by any means. 
3. Something in the 2.1" range.


That's it. Currently I ride Compass Barlow Pass 38s, and I do love them for 
the most part. Best feeling tire that I have ever ridden hands down. Just 
looking to mix it up a bit and go exploring on a beefier tire!

Thanks for the help :)

Cheers,
Benjamin 

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Re: [RBW] My (f)Atlantis in the new Bunyan Velo

[James Chang]

Mark, What a great bike for s24o. And what a treat to read and see this
publication on a proper size screen.

James Chang

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:52 AM, WETH  wrote:

> Mark,
> That is one of my favorite publications-great writing and gorgeous
> photographs.  Your contribution fit right in.
> Congratulations and thanks for sharing.  Now that winter is over where I
> live, I don't mind reading about it!
> Erl
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[RBW] seatpost size and sealed seat tube in 89 RB-2?

[Steve Litvin]

Hi All,

Two questions:

1) Anyone know what the seatpost size is for a 89 Rb-2?  I've actually 
owned it since 91 or so but its been sitting for a while.  I thought it was 
27.2, but I'm getting the feeling its a 27.0 or 26.8

2) Did this generation of Bridgestones come with sealed seat tubes?  I was 
cleaning up the bike and for the first time noticed there seems to be a 
sealed plug 10 inches or so down the seat tube.  At first I thought maybe I 
was forgetting I snapped a post off in it but it seems to be sealed, like 
the tool to remove a traditional head set race.

Thanks!

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

['peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

After experiencing problems with another brand on the 650b Synergy rims I 
tried the Hutchinson brand bought through Compass.  The Hutchinson mounted 
easily, roll very well, are very comfortable and I am very pleased.
Tim Petersen

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 5:50:20 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> These are not brand new tires or wheels.  I bought them with a new set of 
> wheels, if memory is good, a few years ago from someone on this list 
> (perhaps the guy who owns a shop in Minneapolis?)  and they arrived with 
> pari moto tires.  All was good.   Last year, I decided to replace the Natty 
> Bumps on Pat's Betty because they really crowded the fenders and so bought 
> two new pari-motos, putting the new ones on the front of each bike.  No 
> problem getting the tires on the rims at all, but when I took the bike out 
> on the road I got a vibration above 25mph.  Investigation and some help 
> from here turned up the nature of the diving issue.  I worked & worked at 
> it and got it fixed.  This Spring I replaced the tube to fix a slow leak 
> problem and was very careful remounting the tire.  I thought I was good 
> enough, but when I went out on the road, got the same front end noise. 
>  I've redone the job but haven't had time to road test them.  I'm feeling 
> pretty frustrated.
>
> Michael
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 11:02:35 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> The first mount on Synergies is the toughest. They seat much easier after 
>> that in my experience. No crying after the first time.
>>
>> But even with Synergies I had no problem pulling off and putting on 
>> tires. It was just the bead seating that was tough.
>> But I found that as long as they were very close, maybe only one area of 
>> bead diving a smidge under the rim edge per side, they would seat the rest 
>> of the way with a slow spin up and down the street. Flat street. About a 
>> one minute ride.
>> So if I just fixed a roadside Synergy flat and it wasnt seated easily, I 
>> would try riding it slowly for one minute and then get off and see if that 
>> smooshed everything in place. If all is good, ride on!
>>
>> But I can say I won't buy Synergies again if I have a choice. I like the 
>> GB rims so much. They seat almost automatically for the Hetres and Loups 
>> and Cypress.
>>
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[RBW] Re: How do you like your first step-through bike?

[LLM]

I took the plunge and pre-ordered the Clem L-style Complete to go with my 
new high-end titanium-ceramic-UHDPE hip components.  (The second of two is 
scheduled to be "installed" Monday.)  I should be just about ready to hop 
back on a bicycle when the Clem arrives.

Given my mobility issues, the debate for me was more about which 
step-through to buy, and not sam clem clementine cheviot.  Having said 
this, joint mobility doesn't tend to improve with age, and I think anyone 
looking for a bike to ride into the sunset would be well-advised to 
consider a step-through frame.

I think "Ugly Duckling" (in a positive sense) when I look at the Clem 
L-Style.  I ordered it in dark mustard, which I think is stunning on the 
Joe.  We'll see if the Clem L can pull it off.  I'm looking forward to 
hearing Mark from Beacon say more about the L-Style's Conviviality Factor.


On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Sometimes stepping over my top tube feels like a chore.  Not very often, 
> usually at the end of a long ride or just when I'm carrying a lot of stuff. 
>  When I test rode a clementine after a sam and clem I didn't notice any 
> greater convenience mounting or dismounting.  But it wasn't a long or 
> heavily laden ride.  So looking for thoughts from people that were on the 
> fence like me kinda intrigued but hesitant and took the plunge.  
>
> After all this time, still debating sam clem clementine maybe even 
> that lone cheviot
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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith 52cm Offroader

[CMR]

This beauty is still available. Honestly I'd keep it but the wheelbase is 
so long it makes storage a bit more difficult, it is just a few inches too 
large to fit comfortably in my bike shed. First world problems, I know!

Local riders please make an offer with any parts deducted, happy to sell in 
pieces.

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Re: [RBW] New Roadeo

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Another word of congratulations on your beautiful bike!  I have the Nitto 
Jitensha bars on a 1990 Bottecchia steel road bike that I "converted" to 
upright.  Love the ride and the looks.  Also have a VO Postino bar on a 
1986 Pinarello Montello which is close in shape but not quite as high 
quality as the Nitto.  I agree with the more aggressive position I can get 
with those bars but it is still very comfortable for me and not like 
getting down into a drop bar at all.  I'm getting a Soma San Marcos 
and have the Albatross bars to install on it.  I'm looking forward to 
trying them.  I guess if I just don't like it I can go with the Nitto 
Jitensha and work around the bar end shifters (a first for me on those).  

I ride the SRT too when I can - normally from the Oaks parking lot.

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 1:18:41 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

> I'd recommend the same. The bike looks very good, but IMO it deserves a 
> slightly more "sporty" bar.
>
> And welcome out of the closet. I'll be interested in your opinions about 
> the Roadeo's ride qualities. It's one of the several Riv models I wouldn't 
> mind owning.
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:12 AM, ian m  
> wrote:
>
>> If the Albas feel too wide maybe try the Nitto Jitensha bars. Same level 
>> of beauty and quality with a bit more aggressive stance.
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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Paul, your bars appear to be Bosco Bullmoose variants. I think the original 
poster is inquiring about standard Bullmoose bars, which are the modern version 
of early/mid 80's bars for mountain bikes. They have some backward sweep, but 
are closer to a regular flat bar than a Bosco with its full upright backward 
sweep.

I don't see any reason why they wouldn't work. The extra wide leverage could be 
useful if you ever carry a front load, or ride trails.

Eamon

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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Thanks for the comments so far. I am referring to the bull moose that is like a 
boomerang and not the bull moose bosco bars.  I do have a longer torso than 
legs.  The sweep is like I have on a few other bikes but don't have the stem 
like comes integral with the bullmooses.  Keep the comments coming please!

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[RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Kainalu]

They're the best tires I've ever rolled, and I've ridden well over 2% of the 
tires commonly gushed over on this forum. Hopefully some of the 99%ers will 
weigh in on this as all I've got backing my opinion is capitalization.
Thanks 
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Clayton.sf]

Based on what are hey the best?

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] FS: 19 cm c-c 1996 Bontrager Race Lite frame + Bomber fork + Bontrager CF crankset/bb

[Bill Lindsay]

Nineteen centimeters!  That's tiny!  

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[RBW] Schwalbe G-One tires!

[Kainalu]

>From the Blug- "This is a Roadeo painted like an Atlantis, and with a tire 
>that actually measures 37mm. It’s a dreamy road bike."
The picture looks like the tire is a G-One, and if it is, good. Fact is, they 
make any bike better if not the best. THEY'RE THE BEST TIRES EVER MADE.
-Kai
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[RBW] Re: Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[boomer]

I'm in the same situation with lots of parts that are tough to price/sell 
with the cost of shipping.

I'll probably have more "free" with donation postings in the near future.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:48:49 AM UTC-7, boomer wrote:
>
> Pending with a back up.
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 8:40:44 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>> That's very generous and I'd take you up on this but I'm mobile and can't 
>> reply directly.  I have a pile of stuff that's too much of a drag to sell 
>> but plenty good.  Thanks for paying it forward.
>
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[RBW] Re: Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[boomer]

Pending with a back up.

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> That's very generous and I'd take you up on this but I'm mobile and can't 
> reply directly.  I have a pile of stuff that's too much of a drag to sell 
> but plenty good.  Thanks for paying it forward.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Grant Petersen]

"The hard, cheap, Indian threading way, using Vise Grips for the lockring
and a nail and hammer for the cup" is one of the most fantastic
descriptions of anything I've ever read. Good point about Ashtabula cranks.
A guy came by the other day with one of those, and of course it was on a
ten-year old hundred-dollar (today's dollars) bike, but it was pared down
to nothing, not an unnecessary molecule of metal on it, and ... I though
wow, kind of neat. Bigger and more bearings inside would be good, but has
anybody ever ridden one of these guys to destruction?
No need to start a kickstarter campaign to bring back the bad-ol'
Ashtabula, but ... they are no laughing stocks.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I learned to adjust left-side cups the hard way, cheap, Indian threading,
> using Vise Grips for the lockring and a nail and hammer for the cup. But I
> did get them adjusted.
>
> Interesting, at least the older British Racing Tricycles use leftside bb
> cups and lockrings at each inside end to adjust bearing play on the axle
> stubs. That's awkward, because you can't get in front of the assembly
> face-on, as you can with a bottom bracket.
>
> As for longevity: I hear that Campy and perhaps old Dura Ace cup and cone
> bb assemblies last as long as anything else out there? I do know that I've
> ridden at least 2 Phils in heavy rain and grit and, in one case, even
> submerged one in 2' of water, with no problems. But I too would probably
> choose a SKS for really heavy duty use.
>
> My vote for the best value-for-money crank/bb bearing assembly type is the
> Ashtabula; I wonder if these could be refined and lightened? Carbon fiber?
> But, in any event, they seem indestructible, even after riding through
> streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging.
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Grant Petersen 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The final adjustment takes some skill and time and experience and feel,
>> which is why nobody uses these as original equiment anymore. It cannot be
>> done with power tools, and you don't want a first-timer adjusting your bb.
>> Any conscientious individual can do it just fine, but it'll take many tries
>> and retries to nail the adjustment, because as you tighten the lockring
>> against the shell, it has the effect of pulling out (loosening) the
>> adjustment. So, you get what seems like a perfect adjustment, then you go
>> to lock it in and it loosens, and it loosens because the adjustable cup
>> gets pulled outward, away from the bearings.
>>
>> The skill and feel come in by knowing how too-tight to make it to account
>> for the loosening, and different bottom brackets and frames will require
>> different amounts. You sometimes try to hold the adjustable cup's
>> adjustment with the pin tool as you lock it there with the lockring, but
>> sometimes tightening the lockring makes the adjustable cup move, anyway.
>> It's the opposite of Plug-n-Play, but the thing is, it is NOT THAT HARD as
>> long as you don't require perfection on your first-thru-fourth tries. As a
>> home mechanic, you need to buy some tools. The fixed cup should be put in
>> with a shop tool, and new bike shops might not even have those anymore. The
>> cheap tools are the lockring tool and pin tool, and in the old days you
>> could get them both for $30 combined, but I don't know what it is these
>> days, and a normal bike shop won't stock them.
>>
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[RBW] Free XD2R with shipping and donation to RBW

[Conway Bennett]

That's very generous and I'd take you up on this but I'm mobile and can't reply 
directly.  I have a pile of stuff that's too much of a drag to sell but plenty 
good.  Thanks for paying it forward.

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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Kainalu]

You're referring to the "classic" bullmooses that resemble a boomerang? 
Depending on your torso length and flexibility they might seem aggressively 
positioned for rambling fun rides. Rivendells have long top Tubes that beg for 
a comfy swept back bar, Albastaches being a fine midpoint.
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 19 cm c-c 1996 Bontrager Race Lite frame + Bomber fork + Bontrager CF crankset/bb

[Patrick Moore]

Forgot to add: Am interested in partial trades:

1. Good hub dynamo for 20" wheel, 32 hole, with current LED headlamp.

2. S3X hub for 130 mm OL spacing, and 32 hole rim.

3. Technomic stem, 8 or 9 cm.

4. Albatross bar or Dove bar or similar.

5. Alternatively: Bullmoose bar.

6. 559 Rat Trap Pass tires, prefer non-extra light; or Thunderburts, or
similar.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Also includes seatpost and Chris King 1" threadless headset.
>
> This was, I think, the penultimate Santa Cruz year. The frame has the
> later mono-stay, but it is gussetted.
>
> The frame has been powdercoated a nice yellow, and the CK headset is a
> complementary gold.
>
> There are a few very minor scuffs on the powdercoat, but no chips.
>
> The fork was overhauled shortly before I got the bike, and I've put
> exactly 206.5 miles on it.
>
> The bike, built up with tubeless Maxxis Ikons and a mix of 9 speed XTR,
> XT, and LX, weighed about 27 lb.
>
> It rides nicely, but I've discovered that I really don't care for the type
> of riding that requires this sort of bike, ie very technical singletrack;
> and I have a better bike for dirt roads, doubletrack, and easy singletrack.
>
> Photos forthcoming once I disassemble.
>
> $550 shipped CONUS.
>
> Next topic: A philosophical analysis of technical singletrack: ride or
> hike?
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> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
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>
> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>
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[RBW] FS: 19 cm c-c 1996 Bontrager Race Lite frame + Bomber fork + Bontrager CF crankset/bb

[Patrick Moore]

Also includes seatpost and Chris King 1" threadless headset.

This was, I think, the penultimate Santa Cruz year. The frame has the later
mono-stay, but it is gussetted.

The frame has been powdercoated a nice yellow, and the CK headset is a
complementary gold.

There are a few very minor scuffs on the powdercoat, but no chips.

The fork was overhauled shortly before I got the bike, and I've put exactly
206.5 miles on it.

The bike, built up with tubeless Maxxis Ikons and a mix of 9 speed XTR, XT,
and LX, weighed about 27 lb.

It rides nicely, but I've discovered that I really don't care for the type
of riding that requires this sort of bike, ie very technical singletrack;
and I have a better bike for dirt roads, doubletrack, and easy singletrack.

Photos forthcoming once I disassemble.

$550 shipped CONUS.

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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Paul Y]

Here's mine with Bullmoose bars:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fpzogny383rzxc/File%203-5-16%2C%2010%2059%2043%20PM.jpeg?dl=0

It sacrifices speed but is brilliant for everything else. Having had moustache 
bars, noodles and these, I think these are the best riding bars on my Sam. The 
bike just feels like it was made for riding upright like this. That said, my 
bike is back to noodles, but only because its also my go-fast. 

Enjoy!

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[RBW] 10 speed inverted shifters for paul thumbies?

[Philip Kim]

Looking to go index thumb shifters, but want to mount them inverted and 
indexed. I'm going 10 speed, and have a Shimano SLX shadow dynasys rear 
derailleur.

Anyone know if the Microshift MTN Shifter can be put on Paul Thumbies? 
(http://www.jensonusa.com/Mountain-Shifters/Microshift-10-SPEED-Bar-End-Shifters).

I've been friction shifting since my old raleigh 10 speed in college so not 
too up to date.

thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Patrick Moore]

I learned to adjust left-side cups the hard way, cheap, Indian threading,
using Vise Grips for the lockring and a nail and hammer for the cup. But I
did get them adjusted.

Interesting, at least the older British Racing Tricycles use leftside bb
cups and lockrings at each inside end to adjust bearing play on the axle
stubs. That's awkward, because you can't get in front of the assembly
face-on, as you can with a bottom bracket.

As for longevity: I hear that Campy and perhaps old Dura Ace cup and cone
bb assemblies last as long as anything else out there? I do know that I've
ridden at least 2 Phils in heavy rain and grit and, in one case, even
submerged one in 2' of water, with no problems. But I too would probably
choose a SKS for really heavy duty use.

My vote for the best value-for-money crank/bb bearing assembly type is the
Ashtabula; I wonder if these could be refined and lightened? Carbon fiber?
But, in any event, they seem indestructible, even after riding through
streams and watching muddy water flow out upon emerging.

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Grant Petersen  wrote:

>
>
> The final adjustment takes some skill and time and experience and feel,
> which is why nobody uses these as original equiment anymore. It cannot be
> done with power tools, and you don't want a first-timer adjusting your bb.
> Any conscientious individual can do it just fine, but it'll take many tries
> and retries to nail the adjustment, because as you tighten the lockring
> against the shell, it has the effect of pulling out (loosening) the
> adjustment. So, you get what seems like a perfect adjustment, then you go
> to lock it in and it loosens, and it loosens because the adjustable cup
> gets pulled outward, away from the bearings.
>
> The skill and feel come in by knowing how too-tight to make it to account
> for the loosening, and different bottom brackets and frames will require
> different amounts. You sometimes try to hold the adjustable cup's
> adjustment with the pin tool as you lock it there with the lockring, but
> sometimes tightening the lockring makes the adjustable cup move, anyway.
> It's the opposite of Plug-n-Play, but the thing is, it is NOT THAT HARD as
> long as you don't require perfection on your first-thru-fourth tries. As a
> home mechanic, you need to buy some tools. The fixed cup should be put in
> with a shop tool, and new bike shops might not even have those anymore. The
> cheap tools are the lockring tool and pin tool, and in the old days you
> could get them both for $30 combined, but I don't know what it is these
> days, and a normal bike shop won't stock them.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain Setup on the Hunqapillar

[Eric Y.]

Small world - I used to live two blocks from this picture location. 

Now, if only a big Hunq would pop up on the second hand market around here 
(again, apparently).

On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 7:46:18 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> So in my boredom at the bike shop I decided to put an XTR one-by setup on 
> my Hunqapillar.  I also shed the fenders and rear rack and installed some 
> 2.3" tires for a little more offroad adventure.  Next step is a few more 
> black parts.  So far I like the simplicity of the setup and it has pretty 
> good gear range with the 36 tooth front ring and 11-42T 11-speed cassette.  
>
> Keith
>

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[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames & Drop Bars Question

[Ron Mc]

Sky, guessing those are Rando bars, short reach, bent back and flared up - 
they look perfect for the geometry of the frame.  

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 7:07:13 PM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> My wife is 5'4" and rides a 52cm betty with drops - she wanted drops over 
> the albatross bars I originally put on. She's super comfortable on it. Her 
> only complaint is maybe wanting the bars a little lower than they are.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/25082314184/in/dateposted-public/
>
> Sky in new west
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Mixte Frames & Drop Bars Question

[Kelly]

My wife tried albatross on her Betty and didn't like her hands being that 
far from the brakes when she was riding.After putting on drops it's her 
go to bike.When she walks into the garage the Atlantis and the Rodeo 
sit and she takes of on the Betty. 

Kelly


On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 6:35:16 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> After listening to my daughter's many admiring comments about her Mother's 
> Betty, I engaged her in a bike conversation.  Of course the Betty is 
> amongst the most beautiful production bikes ever made, but it turns out 
> that the real attraction was the step through feature.  For the last two 
> years most of her riding has included our grandson on the rear seat.  This 
> year he has graduated to a tag-a-long and she has sold her car, so lots of 
> riding around town, to & from work, etc. A step throug makes a lotta sense 
> for her. So in a fit of generosity I offered to buy her a new frame.  Then 
> it turns out that she is not ready to let go of her drop bars.  She thinks 
> they give her more power but I suspect that her entire (25 year) biking 
> experience has been on either a classic Bianchi/Campy racing bike and  a 
> SOMA Dbl Cross leads her to like what she knows.
>
> It turns out she is right between Riv's small & medium size and so we have 
> wondered if the smaller size could be matched to drop bars for her.  Have 
> any of you tried to use a Betty, Cheviot, or Clementine with drop bars?
>
> michael
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[RBW] Re: FS: B67 Aged and Bosco Bullmoose Bar

['velo59' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Matt,

Please send me a private reply.  I have a couple questions about the Bosco 
handlebar you're selling.  I cannot respond privately to you using my phone.

Jason Cloutier
Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] Re: My 1x8 Clem

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Thanks, Matt; glad to hear that. I found out about Wolf Tooth through this 
group myself.

Bob 

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Re: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

[Daniel D.]

Deleted my post because I decided it was more of a shuttle mount than a 
cowboy mount.  But you were too quick :p Sheldon's still got you 
on.Getting up to speed and HILLS!!!

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 11:42:43 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> It hurts to admit it, but I think Sheldon is wrong. First: I have done 
> this without a problem since I learnt to ride in 1948 (but of course I 
> build my own wheels). Second – and the important part: doing the Cowboy 
> Mount – or the Shuffle Start or dismounting in same manner – you lean your 
> body over the bike. The weight is never far to the side and the wheels 
> never at an unfavourable angle. 
>
>  
>
> Still, it was a revelation when I found Sheldon 1996.
>
>  
>
> Olof
>
>  
>
> Daniel D. answered:
>
> Sheldon says no to both of us.
>
>  
>
> The Cowboy Mount is popular among cyclists who learned to ride on a 
> bicycle that was too large for them. This dubious technique involves 
> standing next to the bike, putting one foot on a pedal, then swinging the 
> other leg over the saddle while the bicycle is in motion.
>
>  
>
> The cowboy mount places the rider's weight on the bicycle while it is 
> leaning over at a sharp angle. This puts considerable lateral stress on the 
> frame and the wheels. Bicycle wheels, in particular, are not designed to 
> withstand serious sideways stresses, and this poor mounting technique is 
> very hard on your wheels.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> Lunginsam - whoever that is - wrote: 
>
> "My wife used to do this cool way of mounting by: 
> 1. L foot on L pedal. 
> 2. Stand on pedal and kick off with R foot on non-drive side, while body 
> is on non-drive side. 
> 3. Slowly raise right leg straight back like doing ballet and swing over 
> rear of bike and sit on saddle while planting R foot on R pedal. 
> I think she used to reverse for dismounting." 
>
> Your wife´s way is the most comfortable way there is for your joints, I 
> have never understood why people do it any other way. Unless of course if 
> you hav a kid back there, then a good mixte with long stays is appropriate. 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Olof Stroh 
> Uppsala Sweden 
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Re: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

[Daniel D.]

Deleted my post because I decided it was more of a shuttle mount than a 
cowboy mount. Sheldon's still got you on.HILLS!!!

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 11:42:43 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> It hurts to admit it, but I think Sheldon is wrong. First: I have done 
> this without a problem since I learnt to ride in 1948 (but of course I 
> build my own wheels). Second – and the important part: doing the Cowboy 
> Mount – or the Shuffle Start or dismounting in same manner – you lean your 
> body over the bike. The weight is never far to the side and the wheels 
> never at an unfavourable angle. 
>
>  
>
> Still, it was a revelation when I found Sheldon 1996.
>
>  
>
> Olof
>
>  
>
> Daniel D. answered:
>
> Sheldon says no to both of us.
>
>  
>
> The Cowboy Mount is popular among cyclists who learned to ride on a 
> bicycle that was too large for them. This dubious technique involves 
> standing next to the bike, putting one foot on a pedal, then swinging the 
> other leg over the saddle while the bicycle is in motion.
>
>  
>
> The cowboy mount places the rider's weight on the bicycle while it is 
> leaning over at a sharp angle. This puts considerable lateral stress on the 
> frame and the wheels. Bicycle wheels, in particular, are not designed to 
> withstand serious sideways stresses, and this poor mounting technique is 
> very hard on your wheels.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> Lunginsam - whoever that is - wrote: 
>
> "My wife used to do this cool way of mounting by: 
> 1. L foot on L pedal. 
> 2. Stand on pedal and kick off with R foot on non-drive side, while body 
> is on non-drive side. 
> 3. Slowly raise right leg straight back like doing ballet and swing over 
> rear of bike and sit on saddle while planting R foot on R pedal. 
> I think she used to reverse for dismounting." 
>
> Your wife´s way is the most comfortable way there is for your joints, I 
> have never understood why people do it any other way. Unless of course if 
> you hav a kid back there, then a good mixte with long stays is appropriate. 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Olof Stroh 
> Uppsala Sweden 
>
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Re: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

[bertin753]

This was the universal boy's way of mounting, at least when I was young, in the 
'60s.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2016, at 12:42 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> It hurts to admit it, but I think Sheldon is wrong. First: I have done this 
> without a problem since I learnt to ride in 1948 (but of course I build my 
> own wheels). Second – and the important part: doing the Cowboy Mount – or the 
> Shuffle Start or dismounting in same manner – you lean your body over the 
> bike. The weight is never far to the side and the wheels never at an 
> unfavourable angle.
>  
> Still, it was a revelation when I found Sheldon 1996.
>  
> Olof
>  
> Daniel D. answered:
> Sheldon says no to both of us.
>  
> The Cowboy Mount is popular among cyclists who learned to ride on a bicycle 
> that was too large for them. This dubious technique involves standing next to 
> the bike, putting one foot on a pedal, then swinging the other leg over the 
> saddle while the bicycle is in motion.
>  
> The cowboy mount places the rider's weight on the bicycle while it is leaning 
> over at a sharp angle. This puts considerable lateral stress on the frame and 
> the wheels. Bicycle wheels, in particular, are not designed to withstand 
> serious sideways stresses, and this poor mounting technique is very hard on 
> your wheels.
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:
> Lunginsam - whoever that is - wrote: 
> 
> "My wife used to do this cool way of mounting by: 
> 1. L foot on L pedal. 
> 2. Stand on pedal and kick off with R foot on non-drive side, while body is 
> on non-drive side. 
> 3. Slowly raise right leg straight back like doing ballet and swing over rear 
> of bike and sit on saddle while planting R foot on R pedal. 
> I think she used to reverse for dismounting." 
> 
> Your wife´s way is the most comfortable way there is for your joints, I have 
> never understood why people do it any other way. Unless of course if you hav 
> a kid back there, then a good mixte with long stays is appropriate. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Olof Stroh 
> Uppsala Sweden
> 
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RE: [RBW] How do you like your first step-through bike?

[olofstroh]

It hurts to admit it, but I think Sheldon is wrong. First: I have done this 
without a problem since I learnt to ride in 1948 (but of course I build my own 
wheels). Second – and the important part: doing the Cowboy Mount – or the 
Shuffle Start or dismounting in same manner – you lean your body over the bike. 
The weight is never far to the side and the wheels never at an unfavourable 
angle. 

 

Still, it was a revelation when I found Sheldon 1996.

 

Olof

 

Daniel D. answered:

Sheldon says no to both of us.

 

The Cowboy Mount is popular among cyclists who learned to ride on a bicycle 
that was too large for them. This dubious technique involves standing next to 
the bike, putting one foot on a pedal, then swinging the other leg over the 
saddle while the bicycle is in motion.

 

The cowboy mount places the rider's weight on the bicycle while it is leaning 
over at a sharp angle. This puts considerable lateral stress on the frame and 
the wheels. Bicycle wheels, in particular, are not designed to withstand 
serious sideways stresses, and this poor mounting technique is very hard on 
your wheels.


On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-7, Olof Stroh wrote:

Lunginsam - whoever that is - wrote: 

"My wife used to do this cool way of mounting by: 
1. L foot on L pedal. 
2. Stand on pedal and kick off with R foot on non-drive side, while body is on 
non-drive side. 
3. Slowly raise right leg straight back like doing ballet and swing over rear 
of bike and sit on saddle while planting R foot on R pedal. 
I think she used to reverse for dismounting." 

Your wife´s way is the most comfortable way there is for your joints, I have 
never understood why people do it any other way. Unless of course if you hav a 
kid back there, then a good mixte with long stays is appropriate. 

Cheers 

Olof Stroh 
Uppsala Sweden 

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