[RBW] Re: BBH Closing?

[Joe Bernard]

My recent attempt at a mixed-terrain Riv Ride proved I'm not very good at it, 
but I might grab the folder and meet you guys somewhere on the route. Or the 
electric Clem! I'd love to see that store. 

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[RBW] Re: BBH Closing?

[dstein]

That's a shame, it is a great store. One I keep meaning to buy a hatchet 
from despite not having any real need for a hatchetyet. I loved the 
idea but was always worried there isn't enough local support in WC to keep 
it going, making it more of a destination place which is a little 
conflicting given the close proximity to HQ down the street. I think I 
remember them doing a pop up store in the Mission before this, wonder if 
something in the city would be more feasible (with the even crazier high 
rents and overhead of operating in SF)? Or Oakland?

Anyone up for a Saturday ride from Oakland to BBH to buy some stuff in a 
few weeks (mixed terrain preferably)? 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Vintage "Time Warp" Raleigh Back on the Market

[Eric Norris]

This is a willing-seller-willing-buyer situation. I'm open to reasonable offers.

Eric N
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> On Jul 5, 2016, at 7:51 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's a really remarkable... price. I guess it's a different market out on 
> the left coast. Here, despite seller ad copy to the contrary, they are very 
> common--even ones in great condition. Maybe cause we are closer to England? I 
> bought my ex-wife the same 3-speed coffee color in like new condition 
> for...less, not all that long ago. (If the one you have was never ridden, 
> someone must have dropped a bottle of wine or a monkey wrench on the fender 
> while fumbling around in that dark, dry basement;^)
> 
> Here's one on a local CL right now:
> 
> http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/bik/5666584416.html
> 
> The price in the ad is about the top end out this way, for one in excellent 
> shape, unless it's some special thing with dyno hub and rod brakes and 
> leather saddle. Maybe I should go into business with you shipping them out 
> there! (Still, I hope you didn't pay more than $450 for it!)
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:57:53 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>> My near-mint 1970s Raleigh Sports is back on the market.  $650 for local 
>> pickup in the Sacramento/SF metroplex. If you’re out of the area, let’s talk 
>> about shipping options before you make a decision.
>> 
>> Photos and a video here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/campyonlyguy/89873T
>> 
>> This is a really remarkable bike. Purchased more than 30 years ago, and as 
>> far as I know never ridden. Stored in a dark, dry basement ever since, until 
>> I found it at an estate sale.
>> 
>> Will fit riders up to 6 feet, but someone about 5’6” is probably right in 
>> the sweet spot for the frame (21” C-T seat tube). 
>> 
>> Please contact me off-list with inquiries.
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Garth]

Pudge,  does he offer to make the rack to attach to the two on top fork crown 
mounts instead of the single middle brake mount ?   

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[RBW] Re: Vintage "Time Warp" Raleigh Back on the Market

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's a really remarkable... price. I guess it's a different market out on 
the left coast. Here, despite seller ad copy to the contrary, they are very 
common--even ones in great condition. Maybe cause we are closer to England? 
I bought my ex-wife the same 3-speed coffee color in like new condition 
for...less, not all that long ago. (If the one you have was never ridden, 
someone must have dropped a bottle of wine or a monkey wrench on the fender 
while fumbling around in that dark, dry basement;^)

Here's one on a local CL right now:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/bik/5666584416.html

The price in the ad is about the top end out this way, for one in excellent 
shape, unless it's some special thing with dyno hub and rod brakes and 
leather saddle. Maybe I should go into business with you shipping them out 
there! (Still, I hope you didn't pay more than $450 for it!)

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:57:53 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My near-mint 1970s Raleigh Sports is back on the market.  $650 for local 
> pickup in the Sacramento/SF metroplex. If you’re out of the area, let’s 
> talk about shipping options before you make a decision.
>
> Photos and a video here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/campyonlyguy/89873T
>
> This is a really remarkable bike. Purchased more than 30 years ago, and as 
> far as I know never ridden. Stored in a dark, dry basement ever since, 
> until I found it at an estate sale.
>
> Will fit riders up to 6 feet, but someone about 5’6” is probably right in 
> the sweet spot for the frame (21” C-T seat tube). 
>
> Please contact me off-list with inquiries.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> 
>  
>
>

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[RBW] Vintage "Time Warp" Raleigh Back on the Market

[Eric Norris]

My near-mint 1970s Raleigh Sports is back on the market.  $650 for local pickup 
in the Sacramento/SF metroplex. If you’re out of the area, let’s talk about 
shipping options before you make a decision.

Photos and a video here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/campyonlyguy/89873T 


This is a really remarkable bike. Purchased more than 30 years ago, and as far 
as I know never ridden. Stored in a dark, dry basement ever since, until I 
found it at an estate sale.

Will fit riders up to 6 feet, but someone about 5’6” is probably right in the 
sweet spot for the frame (21” C-T seat tube). 

Please contact me off-list with inquiries.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Noodle 177 44cm

[Nathan Spratt]

I dropped my loaded bike and bent my 44cm Noodles. Does anyone have a 44cm 
they want to sell? Canadian sellers preferred but if the price and shipping 
work out US based could be fine too.

Cheers,

Nathan Spratt
Vancouver, Canada

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[RBW] For Sale, Tubus Duo Rack

[Jim J.]

Like new, $85 I pay postage in the continental U.S. Or, $75 and you pay 
postage.

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[RBW] Re: BBH Closing?

[eddietheflay]

I love Riv. Retail space in Walnut Creek cost a crazy fortune. BBH is not 
the bread and butter of those who frequent the streets of Downtown Walnut 
Creek.

Now BBBH might work. Need the beer.

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 3:29:11 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote:
>
> I've been out of the country so maybe I missed the announcement. I just 
> saw on the Radavist that BBH was closing. Was this known or new info?
>
> -Justin 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Brooks B67

[Frank Brose]

Found one . Thanks to all.
Frank

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 5:44:06 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a B67 for my daughter. Black is preferred but beggars 
> can't be choosers.Please reply offlist.
> Thanks,
> Frank
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[RBW] BBH Closing?

[Justin August]

http://theradavist.com/2016/07/only-a-few-months-left-for-bike-book-hatchet-kyle-kelley/

-Justin

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[RBW] Driver Needed: Denver to Boulder

[Eric Norris]

To All Denver-Area List Members:

I need someone with a truck or a large vehicle to pick up a boxed bike (in a 
large, Amtrak bike box) at the Amtrak station in Denver and drive it to an 
address in Boulder. Google maps says it’s a 29-mile trip each way; I’ll pay $75.

Please respond off-list.

Thanks in advance!

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[RBW] WTB Brooks B67

[Frank Brose]

I'm looking for a B67 for my daughter. Black is preferred but beggars can't 
be choosers.Please reply offlist.
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] BBH Closing?

[Joe Bernard]

It's news to me.

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[RBW] BBH Closing?

[Justin August]

I've been out of the country so maybe I missed the announcement. I just saw on 
the Radavist that BBH was closing. Was this known or new info?

-Justin 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I have the Pass & Stow on my Bombadil. It is a great rack, and Matt was willing 
to make mods to suit me (internal wire routing and light mounts on both sides). 
 I love it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 5, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Surlyprof 
> wrote:

I've been considering a porteur rack as well for my Hillborne.  I was eyeing 
the Soma Porteur 
(http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel) because 
it had the lower crossbars for panniers.  After meeting the nice guy who runs 
Pass and Stow (Matt?) at NAHBS, I would probably buy theirs.  Really solid and 
built in Oakland.

John

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 1:43:42 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and I'm 
in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. I'm 
soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the newish 
Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.

Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto 32F rack; Nitto Mark M1 Flat Rack

[Belopsky]

still got the flat rack. make me an offer

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Ram & 58cm RBW Custom on Los Angeles/OC Craigslist

[qwerty]

FWIW, In both ads, the seller specifies the 58cm measurement is center
to center.  That would make these either 59 or 60cm sizes as per the
traditional Riv sizing of center to top.
Mike G.

On 7/5/16, dougP  wrote:
> I'm not far from seller's location & glad to assist in any useful way.  I
> ride a 58 cm Atlantis, am 5'10" with a 85 cm PBH.  Adrenaline Bikes in
> Orange does an excellent job of packing so would suggest them for that
> chore.
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>>
>> 58cm (Orange!) Ram, Complete:
>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666135130.html
>>
>> 58cm Curt-built RBW Custom Touring, Complete:
>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666117578.html
>>
>> Per ads, "Will only do business locally, in-person... (w)ill not ship the
>>
>> bike(s)," so now is the time to make a friend in the OC!
>>
>> Not mine, no affiliation, thank heaven they're not 59s, etc.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Ram & 58cm RBW Custom on Los Angeles/OC Craigslist

[cyclotourist]

Great bikes!

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:04 PM, dougP  wrote:
> I'm not far from seller's location & glad to assist in any useful way.  I
> ride a 58 cm Atlantis, am 5'10" with a 85 cm PBH.  Adrenaline Bikes in
> Orange does an excellent job of packing so would suggest them for that
> chore.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>>
>> 58cm (Orange!) Ram, Complete:
>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666135130.html
>>
>> 58cm Curt-built RBW Custom Touring, Complete:
>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666117578.html
>>
>> Per ads, "Will only do business locally, in-person... (w)ill not ship the
>> bike(s)," so now is the time to make a friend in the OC!
>>
>> Not mine, no affiliation, thank heaven they're not 59s, etc.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Ram & 58cm RBW Custom on Los Angeles/OC Craigslist

[dougP]

I'm not far from seller's location & glad to assist in any useful way.  I 
ride a 58 cm Atlantis, am 5'10" with a 85 cm PBH.  Adrenaline Bikes in 
Orange does an excellent job of packing so would suggest them for that 
chore.  

dougP

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> 58cm (Orange!) Ram, Complete: 
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666135130.html
>
> 58cm Curt-built RBW Custom Touring, Complete: 
> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666117578.html
>
> Per ads, "Will only do business locally, in-person... (w)ill not ship the 
> bike(s)," so now is the time to make a friend in the OC!
>
> Not mine, no affiliation, thank heaven they're not 59s, etc.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>

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[RBW] WTB Mark's rack!

[Jon Craig]

I'm looking to buy a Mark's rack for my wife's Sam - I got mine at retail 
and we both just ordered boxy randos from acornbags.com so she needs a rack 
for hers. :D

I'm sure the RBW bunch can help us out!

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Re: [RBW] Re: HIgh Line Canal on a beautiful Sunday

[Jon Dukeman]

Hi Patrick,
They have really made that a nice trail with options to the Platte River
trail and Lee Gulch trail.
>From Hampton to C470 trail in Littleton there are only street crossings to
deal with.Other wise it's open riding.
Jon



"FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK "

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Great ride, Jon! My wife and I rode that or a predecessor in the early
> 90's when we were at DU, and found it very disconnected and difficult to
> navigate. We subsequently preferred to hit the hills and hike and backpack,
> and biking took a back seat for a few decades. That makes the trail sound
> causal to that, which was not the case. I was stuck in the racer mentality
> and couldn't see past that. I do remember being amazed by the open space
> down south.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:37:08 PM UTC-6, Jon in central Colorado wrote:
>>
>> Early Sunday morning ride.
>> Hope the pictures load.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHskDAD6QH
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[RBW] Re: HIgh Line Canal on a beautiful Sunday

[Deacon Patrick]

Great ride, Jon! My wife and I rode that or a predecessor in the early 90's 
when we were at DU, and found it very disconnected and difficult to 
navigate. We subsequently preferred to hit the hills and hike and backpack, 
and biking took a back seat for a few decades. That makes the trail sound 
causal to that, which was not the case. I was stuck in the racer mentality 
and couldn't see past that. I do remember being amazed by the open space 
down south.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:37:08 PM UTC-6, Jon in central Colorado wrote:
>
> Early Sunday morning ride.
> Hope the pictures load.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskDAD6QH
>

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[RBW] PSA: 58cm Ram & 58cm RBW Custom on Los Angeles/OC Craigslist

[sameness]

58cm (Orange!) Ram, Complete: 
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666135130.html

58cm Curt-built RBW Custom Touring, Complete: 
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/5666117578.html

Per ads, "Will only do business locally, in-person... (w)ill not ship the 
bike(s)," so now is the time to make a friend in the OC!

Not mine, no affiliation, thank heaven they're not 59s, etc.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: HIgh Line Canal on a beautiful Sunday

[Derek Lawrence]

This is great. Thanks Jon. Yes, coffee and / or ride would be fun. I will 
be out of state for much of the next month, but let's stay in touch.

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 10:42:43 AM UTC-6, Jon in central Colorado wrote:
>
> Derek,
> If you come south on I-25 exit Hampton and go west to Colorado.Turn left 
> then turn right into the First Plymouth Congressional church parking lot 
> and go to the back of the parking lot you will be facing Jefferson Ave. The 
> paved trail goes along Jefferson to the gravel portion of High Line Canal.
> When you get to the gravel turn left and you are on your way. .You will 
> cross about 6 or so many streets over 19 miles but they have pedestrian 
> signs to cross or there is very little car traffic and no problem 
> crossing.It's a beautiful section to ride and not crowded..even on the 
> weekends
> Maybe we could meet for coffee out sometime or just ride.
> Here's a map of the church parking and the trail.
> https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6517312,-104.9430531,17z
> Jon
>
> On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 9:19:53 AM UTC-6, Derek Lawrence wrote:
>
>> I live in Park Hill and ride the northern sections quite a bit, though 
>> they are patchy as far as connectivity, with construction and detours. 
>> Looks like I should head south.
>>
>> On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 8:49:44 AM UTC-6, Jon in central Colorado 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Derek,
>>> Thanks,
>>> It's a section between the Lee Gulch Trail to the south and  Greenwood 
>>> Village to the north, a bit south of Denver.
>>> Derek, Where are you located.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 7:46:56 AM UTC-6, Derek Lawrence wrote:
>>>
 Jon, Where were these pictures taken? It doesn't look like any part of 
 the canal I've ridden and I want to go there. Lovely.

 On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:37:08 PM UTC-6, Jon in central Colorado 
 wrote:
>
> Early Sunday morning ride.
> Hope the pictures load.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskDAD6QH
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: Shutter Precision PV-8 36H Dynamo Hub

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Out of curiosity, what made you opt for the Schmidt and not the SP?

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 10:16:53 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> I have a Shutter Precision PV-8 hub I'm looking to sell.  Built it into a 
> wheel, then decided to run a Schmidt SON28.  Other than being built into a 
> wheel an mounted in a fork, this hub has never been used.  36 Hole silver 
> QR hub.  Not pictured, but hub will come with a new bolt on skewer.  Skewer 
> came with my SON28.  $90 will get it shipped to you.  DM me with any 
> questions or offers.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Smaller Riv sizing

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Andrew,
Can you elaborate on what's uncomfortable for you on the 56 Sam? 

I agree with Benz that some measurement is off. I'm 170cm (5'7"), PBH 81cm 
and ride SH a few mm under 70cm.

I ride a 56 AHH, which has just a wee bit clearance for pelvic bone, and 48 
Hunqapillar. The Hunqapillar is sized down-- providing a little more 
stand-over clearance in the woods and a lower head tube to get the bars 
lower. Could probably use a less tall stem to get them down a little more.

I've found that the bikes are quite different with different handle bars. I 
really like the AHH with albatross. The Hunqapillar with albatross was ok-- 
but probably too close. Drops work fine on both bikes, but the position of 
the tops and hoods feels very different (with same stem).

Good luck,
shoji


On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 11:54:29 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> Something is off. I have a PBH of 81.0 cm and am 5'10" tall (yeah, short 
> legs; Grant measured PBH twice). My saddle height is between 70 and 70.5 
> cm, and this range is essentially what a few different calculators 
> (including Riv's) recommend. You either measured a parameter differently 
> from norm, you use super-long cranks, or your saddle height is way too low.
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:37:14 AM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>>
>> Yes. My PBH is 84. I wear a 30 inseam in pants. Saddle height measured in 
>> my MB6 and Jonesis 70cm. I'm gauging that my saddle height may indicate 
>> longer torso than legs, 5'10" btw. I'm not sure if this all adds up but 
>> I've measured multiple times and this is what I get. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Ohio to Erie Trail trip

[Jon in central Colorado]

Paul,
Thanks for sharing your story and photos of my home state. Brings back many 
Memories. I'd love to go back and ride.
*SEAN, I GREW UP IN GALION, now pretty much a ghost town I think.*
Jon


On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 3:37:01 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:

> Thanks for writing about this trip - and for posting all of the great 
> pictures as well.  It looks like you had a wonderful trip.
>
> On several of the photos, it looked as thought you had a map / guidebook 
> that was attached to your handlebars.  Where did you find that?  I would 
> love to get a copy for myself - so a link would be much appreciated.
>
> As a native of Ohio (I grew up in Mansfield) I've contemplated returning 
> to my home state a few times to ride from Cleveland to Cincinnati.  This 
> fall my son will start his freshmen year at Denision University, which is 
> located in the Columbus area.  He and I rode the Erie Canal trail to Albany 
> a few summers ago.  As a result of his decision to attend school in Ohio, 
> my thoughts of another father-son bike trip were rekindled.  Your photos 
> certainly helped to rekindle that thinking as well.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Sean
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 9:53:21 PM UTC-4, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>> After experiencing many of the Mid-Atlantic rail trails and towpaths, I 
>> took the Sam touring bike for a 365-mile, 5-day self-supported trip from 
>> the top to the bottom of Ohio using the *Ohio to Erie Trail*, which 
>> links 16 trails of all types and surfaces linked with urban and rural road 
>> sections (including Amish country) through 15 counties and 41 
>> municipalities. Temps ranged from the high-60's to around 100 degrees! 
>> Challenging, but I had the great pathfinding skills of friend, Dan WIdner, 
>> who did most of the planning and mapping. This was a great way to see the 
>> midwest! What a great resource for that state! 
>>
>> *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157669855129132 
>> *
>>
>> Paul Germain
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

[Matt C.]

Tandem cable tension can be difficult to navigate as to what works when 
actually riding VS in the stand. I worked for a company that owned 6 rental 
tandems with trigger shifters. They weren't high quality shifters either, so 
tuning them perfectly always seemed somewhat of an impossibility. I found that 
the indexing always works better when the cable is slightly looser than a 
normal bike. Also I open up the low cog a bit more (maybe half turn on the 
adjustment screw). This meant it would jump into the low without an ultra tight 
cable and conversely would also drop back into the highs easily. 

Matt
Bristol, R.I. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Shoji Takahashi]

IIRC, Clem uses the Hunqapillar fork. Also, the Hunqapillar (at least my 
first gen version) has mounting points on top of the fork crown. You can 
sorta see it in this pic: https://flic.kr/p/mtcPxp

Rob of Ocean Air Cycles has some good mods on his blog on using those 
mounting points (which the Rambler also has) and Surly hardware. 

Good luck!
shoji


On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 7:31:09 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Not sure how a Clem compares with a Hunq in terms of fork braze-ons for 
> racks, but I have a Surly 8 pack running fine, though no doubt a bit higher 
> than ideal. Also lots of bolts to check. And a bit fiddly to install, but 
> that's not that unusual in rackworld, is it?...
>
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> On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have you read the Surly install pdf for it ?  
>> http://surlybikes.com//uploads/downloads/24_8_Pack_Rack_Instructions_vf.pdf
>>
>> It specifically states : 
>>
>> *This rack is not recommended for use with a fork that has a single 
>> mounting point in the fork crown.*I'm not sure what they mean by this as 
>> this rack is on their list as working with the LHT fork which as one mount 
>> point in the crown side. Maybe they mean the mount on the Riv being 
>> vertical as opposed to horizontal on the Surly forks. A call to Surly may 
>> be helpful. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 4:43:42 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>
>>> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, 
>>> and I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier 
>>> loads. I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, 
>>> and the newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the 
>>> Surly rack attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>>>
>>> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hunq porteur options?

[Surlyprof]

I've been considering a porteur rack as well for my Hillborne.  I was 
eyeing the Soma Porteur 
(http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel) 
because it had the lower crossbars for panniers.  After meeting the nice 
guy who runs Pass and Stow (Matt?) at NAHBS, I would probably buy theirs. 
 Really solid and built in Oakland.

John

On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 1:43:42 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> I routinely load my Nitto mini front rack to the limits of my comfort, and 
> I'm in the market for something that safely can accommodate heavier loads. 
> I'm soliciting input on porteur racks such as those from Soma, VO, and the 
> newish Surly 24-pack. I'm particularly curious about whether the Surly rack 
> attachments align decently with the fork crown mounts on my Hunq.
>
> Cross-posting to the internet-bob list, sorry if it causes inbox clutter.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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[RBW] Re: Smaller Riv sizing

[Garth]

   Above all you really have to know yourself as no one else can.  Sure, 
someone can measure your body in all sorts of ways but this omits the most 
important thing of all , the riders sense of themselves: balance on and 
within the bike is but one example.  Call it intangibles if you will, and 
they are infinite.  Two bodies can be the exact same measurements but 
that's just superficial and further inquiry would always reveal 
differences/preferences of varying degrees from "similar" to "night and 
day".   

  Riv and every other bike seller do what they can to steer you in a 
direction as it's in their best interest of course but just remember it's 
by no means absolute, it's merely as suggestion based on their preferences 
which is the best anyone can offer another. 

   With production bikes they can never fit everyone all the time and 
certainly not the same way. It is what it is :)  Fortunately there are lots 
of bikes to choose from and customs too.  Even these days you can get full 
custom frames for quite a reasonable price comparable to that of a Sam. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

[Steve Palincsar]

On 07/05/2016 06:18 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
Over the long weekend we finally got out on the tandem and in the 
hills to test my work on the indexing.  It worked well in the shop but 
only so so on the road.  I did half the ride in index mode and half in 
friction and we (stoker & I) definitely liked the friction mode 
better.  The indexing only failed to shift once and seemed to be going 
into all the gears, but the hesitation, especially when dropping the 
chain downward, sometimes felt interminable.  I would click the bar 
end then wait and think, "the damn thing didn't move."  Except I was 
thinking in anglo-sexan!  In contrast the friction mode moved quickly, 
quietly, and consistently across the cassette.


Hesitation in upshifting is usually due to excess cable tension.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

[Michael Hechmer]

Over the long weekend we finally got out on the tandem and in the hills to 
test my work on the indexing.  It worked well in the shop but only so so on 
the road.  I did half the ride in index mode and half in friction and we 
(stoker & I) definitely liked the friction mode better.  The indexing only 
failed to shift once and seemed to be going into all the gears, but the 
hesitation, especially when dropping the chain downward, sometimes felt 
interminable.  I would click the bar end then wait and think, "the damn 
thing didn't move."  Except I was thinking in anglo-sexan!  In contrast the 
friction mode moved quickly, quietly, and consistently across the cassette.

As an aside, during this time, I looked into converting to a Rohloff sytem 
but found that the companies utter lack of customer focus made this a near 
impossibility.

Michael

On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 4:42:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Yep, all I would need would be the extra long version of the silver 
> shifters
>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 10:30:22 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hey Scott,
>> With a set of Boscos, that tandem-as-solo will fit him just fine! Long 
>> chain stays when you need 'em (sit as pilot); short chain stays when you 
>> need to pop wheelies (sit as stoker). 
>>
>> happy riding,
>> shoji
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, Skenry wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha, here is a photo of my son riding our tandem solo.
>>> But from the back seat.
>>>
>>> If you can see instgram photos...
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/2XFCNvINiK/?taken-by=skenry=en
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Steve Palincsar  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>


 In fact, a month or so after I first got a tandem, we were on Marthas 
 Vineyard.  I was riding with my daughter as child stoker, and we stopped 
 for a minute.  I didn't know it, but she climbed down (getting up to the 
 saddle was a bit like climbing up monkey bars for her) while my attention 
 was elsewhere.  I started off riding, and next thing there she is running 
 down the road next to the bike yelling at me to stop.  It took many years 
 before I lived that one down...



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