[RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-28 Thread René Sterental
Yeah, jet lagged and working a lot! ;-)

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, LeahFoy  wrote:

> Well, are you in Moscow? If not, more words and pictures are expected!
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Cheviot has arrived!

2016-09-28 Thread LeahFoy
Well, are you in Moscow? If not, more words and pictures are expected!

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-28 Thread René Sterental
Ahhh, great story!

René

On Thursday, September 29, 2016, LeahFoy  wrote:

> Thanks, All, you are too kind. It's fun for me to type out my thoughts for
> the like-minded to read. I have zero real-life biking friends, so you all
> are indispensable!
>
> Yesterday was near disaster for the Bicycle Bus. My oldest bus kid is in
> 8th grade and they don't come any sweeter. She was bringing up the rear as
> we headed down the Hill That Would Make Cipollini Cry. A ways down I heard
> my son call out to me, so I slowed and swiveled my head, trying not to lose
> control of the giant front load in my abused Wald basket. There was L, in
> the street where vehicles whiz by at 55 mph. The curb melted away and
> provided her a way back up onto the sidewalk and we were once again on our
> way. But close to campus, I noticed she was behaving oddly on her bike.
> When the sidewalk narrowed so that we must walk the bikes, I waited up for
> her to ask what kind of shenanigans had happened at the back of the bus. "I
> lost my brakes!" she cried.
>
> 
> !!!
>
> That's what I thought. It's like a quote.
>
> Anyway, she continued, "And then this black piece of my shifter - it just
> FLEW OFF - and I called after it, 'Wait, come back!!!' but it was gone. And
> then my shifter wanted to be in 1 and I had to squeeze it tight the entire
> ride so it would stay in gear. And that made it hard to also squeeze the
> brakes. But then I noticed my brakes were no longer working. I was coming
> up on L [my little son] and I didn't want to make him crash, so I veered
> off into the road just as a big truck went by! I knew this bike was going
> to give me trouble. I looked at it this morning and I said, 'You're going
> to give me trouble today, aren't you?'."
>
> Aghast, I said, YOU ARE NEVER RIDING THAT BIKE AGAIN OR I WILL HAVE 5
> CORONARIES.
>
> As I unloaded the Betty Foy, the kids all parked their bikes. L gave one
> final exclamation that got my attention. "My front tire is flat!" she
> squealed.
>
> No, I'm not kidding. Folks, you can't make this stuff up. So, I hugged
> her, said a prayer of thanksgiving to Jesus and I texted her mother and
> told her what had happened. I'm hoping and praying I never see that Schwinn
> again.
>
> Today the Bicycle Bus was attended only by us. But we had so much fun
> because strange weather is moving through our neck of the woods, and it is
> lovely. Big, puffy cotton candy clouds floated over us. The sun left
> streaks of color in the sky. Dark and heavy clouds cruised by swiftly,
> having not yet decided to pour out their raindrops. And in the distance,
> hovering over our route was a RAINBOW. The boys were so excited because
> this one looked to end right about where the school would be. The boys have
> never given up hope of actually reaching a rainbow and discovering there
> really might be a pot o' gold for them there. The crossing guard near our
> house called out, "Save some gold for me!" We wouldn't have, though,
> because we would have spent it all at the bike store getting new bikes for
> the Bicycle Bus passengers. Rainbows are sneaky, and we were eluded yet
> again, but that didn't detract from the joy of the pursuit nor the fun of
> the ride.
>
> And on a comical note, there is a goofy kid worth telling about. There is
> an elementary school close to my house, and those kids let out at the time
> I'm heading to get my kids at their school. This goofball kid, who I'd put
> at about 3rd grade, has gotten a new scooter. He has to take it down The
> Hill That Would Make Cipollini Cry, which even I would never attempt. There
> are a pair of blond brothers who do it every day on their scooters, and the
> goofball must be their friend. They are now a trio. The brothers are way
> more street smart, as they've been at it awhile. The goofball is a
> disaster. His scooter is pretty cool, with big, fat, black tires, and he
> knows it. As I came behind him, he began chirping about the splendor of his
> new scooter.  Then, he did exactly what comes naturally to little boys with
> new wheels: "Race ya!" he called. He took up the whole path and would
> unpredictably swerve this way and that. I was stuck behind him, riding my
> brakes and looking on in amusement. He talked the entire way down the hill,
> not that I could make a single word of it out. He was blithely happy with
> himself, whatever he was chattering about, and I waved goodbye as he turned
> right into his neighborhood. I caught him again today. "You again!" he
> chirped. And then something about racing, and we started the whole
> experience over again.
>
> You can't make this stuff up.
> Leah
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RE: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs. Simpleone: What's the difference?

2016-09-28 Thread Belopsky
Blast for the past but I'm somewhat interested in a simpleone or a quickbeam if 
anyone has one in 54

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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

2016-09-28 Thread LeahFoy
Thanks, All, you are too kind. It's fun for me to type out my thoughts for the 
like-minded to read. I have zero real-life biking friends, so you all are 
indispensable! 

Yesterday was near disaster for the Bicycle Bus. My oldest bus kid is in 8th 
grade and they don't come any sweeter. She was bringing up the rear as we 
headed down the Hill That Would Make Cipollini Cry. A ways down I heard my son 
call out to me, so I slowed and swiveled my head, trying not to lose control of 
the giant front load in my abused Wald basket. There was L, in the street where 
vehicles whiz by at 55 mph. The curb melted away and provided her a way back up 
onto the sidewalk and we were once again on our way. But close to campus, I 
noticed she was behaving oddly on her bike. When the sidewalk narrowed so that 
we must walk the bikes, I waited up for her to ask what kind of shenanigans had 
happened at the back of the bus. "I lost my brakes!" she cried. 

!!!

That's what I thought. It's like a quote.

Anyway, she continued, "And then this black piece of my shifter - it just FLEW 
OFF - and I called after it, 'Wait, come back!!!' but it was gone. And then my 
shifter wanted to be in 1 and I had to squeeze it tight the entire ride so it 
would stay in gear. And that made it hard to also squeeze the brakes. But then 
I noticed my brakes were no longer working. I was coming up on L [my little 
son] and I didn't want to make him crash, so I veered off into the road just as 
a big truck went by! I knew this bike was going to give me trouble. I looked at 
it this morning and I said, 'You're going to give me trouble today, aren't 
you?'."

Aghast, I said, YOU ARE NEVER RIDING THAT BIKE AGAIN OR I WILL HAVE 5 
CORONARIES.

As I unloaded the Betty Foy, the kids all parked their bikes. L gave one final 
exclamation that got my attention. "My front tire is flat!" she squealed. 

No, I'm not kidding. Folks, you can't make this stuff up. So, I hugged her, 
said a prayer of thanksgiving to Jesus and I texted her mother and told her 
what had happened. I'm hoping and praying I never see that Schwinn again.

Today the Bicycle Bus was attended only by us. But we had so much fun because 
strange weather is moving through our neck of the woods, and it is lovely. Big, 
puffy cotton candy clouds floated over us. The sun left streaks of color in the 
sky. Dark and heavy clouds cruised by swiftly, having not yet decided to pour 
out their raindrops. And in the distance, hovering over our route was a 
RAINBOW. The boys were so excited because this one looked to end right about 
where the school would be. The boys have never given up hope of actually 
reaching a rainbow and discovering there really might be a pot o' gold for them 
there. The crossing guard near our house called out, "Save some gold for me!" 
We wouldn't have, though, because we would have spent it all at the bike store 
getting new bikes for the Bicycle Bus passengers. Rainbows are sneaky, and we 
were eluded yet again, but that didn't detract from the joy of the pursuit nor 
the fun of the ride. 

And on a comical note, there is a goofy kid worth telling about. There is an 
elementary school close to my house, and those kids let out at the time I'm 
heading to get my kids at their school. This goofball kid, who I'd put at about 
3rd grade, has gotten a new scooter. He has to take it down The Hill That Would 
Make Cipollini Cry, which even I would never attempt. There are a pair of blond 
brothers who do it every day on their scooters, and the goofball must be their 
friend. They are now a trio. The brothers are way more street smart, as they've 
been at it awhile. The goofball is a disaster. His scooter is pretty cool, with 
big, fat, black tires, and he knows it. As I came behind him, he began chirping 
about the splendor of his new scooter.  Then, he did exactly what comes 
naturally to little boys with new wheels: "Race ya!" he called. He took up the 
whole path and would unpredictably swerve this way and that. I was stuck behind 
him, riding my brakes and looking on in amusement. He talked the entire way 
down the hill, not that I could make a single word of it out. He was blithely 
happy with himself, whatever he was chattering about, and I waved goodbye as he 
turned right into his neighborhood. I caught him again today. "You again!" he 
chirped. And then something about racing, and we started the whole experience 
over again. 

You can't make this stuff up.
Leah

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[RBW] Re: FS: Albatross Cockpit & Paul Thumbies (with sticker!)

2016-09-28 Thread Mike K.
Alright. Thumbies are sold!

If you're interested in the cockpit, let me know.

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 10:50:21 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:
>
>
> Evening all,
> I have a Nitto Albatross cockpit I bought on the list in July/August that 
> needs to be relocated. I rode them for a bit, but decided to go back to 
> dirt drops.
>
> Cockpit includes: 
>
>- Nitto CroMo Albatross bars 
>- Nitto 110mm/25.4 Tallux
>- Shimano MTB levers
>- Miesha's cork grips for bar end shifters - ends are cut out and 
>bottoms are grooved for the cable and housing.
>- Newbaums, a little hemp & a little shellac
>
> I'd love to get them to a new home. $150 shipped CONUS.
>
> Additionally, I have a set of Paul Thumbies for 22.2mm bars, Shimano 
> style. Mounted them, took them for a test ride, and went right back to bar 
> end. $55 shipped CONUS. 
>
> If you want the Thumbies with the cockpit, I can take $10 off for a total 
> of $195, shipped.
>
> Here are the pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/128855412@N03/8427Jq
>
> PM me if you're interested.
>
> Happy riding!
>

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Re: [RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Philip Kim
Ahh thanks! Super helpful illustrations.

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:08:14 PM UTC-4, Peter White wrote:
>
> Actually, shorting the terminals will do no damage at all, at least not to 
> any Schmidt hub. And I doubt it would damage any other dynamo hub. It's 
> nothing to worry about.
>
> Also, the drag the OP noticed with the bike upside-down is real, but the 
> effect is exaggerated if there's little or no mass being moved, as is the 
> case with the bike upside-down. With the rider on the bike, the rider's 
> mass acts as a buffer to the effect of the drag. Inside a SON 28 there are 
> 26 magnets attached to the inside of the outer hub shell, between the spoke 
> flanges. They are, in a sense, trying to keep the hub from rotating. As the 
> hub does rotate, there are 26 points during each rotation of the wheel 
> where the magnets are trying to keep the hub from rotating, and they 
> alternate with another 26 points where the hub wants to rotate. As the hub 
> rotates a bit in one direction or the other, the magnets are trying to 
> bring the hub shell back to its earlier position. It's like riding down a 
> road that goes up and down, up and down. Gravity tries to keep you in one 
> of the low points on the road. So imagine that the road is essentially 
> level over a long distance, but undulates up and down every 20 feet or so. 
> From the top of each rise, you speed up just a bit for 20 feet until you 
> get to the bottom, and then you slow down for 20 feet. This repeats over 
> and over. The rider's mass is momentum, and the heavier the rider, the less 
> he will speed up on those 20 foot down sections, and the less he will slow 
> down on the 20 foot up sections. Over a long distance, there's hardly any 
> difference in your average speed.
>
> So, when you're riding a bike with a dynamo hub, with each revolution of 
> the hub, you slow down and speed up 26 times, but since you have a great 
> deal more mass at the rim rotating with you riding than with the bike 
> upside-down, the effect, the amount that the wheel's speed actually changes 
> 26 times per revolution, is tiny. Flip the bike upside-down and spin the 
> wheel, you can easily see the speed changing.
>
> In both scenarios, rider on the bike and rider off, the actual drag is the 
> same. And with the lights off, it's equivalent to the added work you do 
> climbing 1 foot of elevation every mile you ride. And it's about 5 times 
> that with the lights on. Can you tell the difference if you're riding a 
> road that's perfectly level, or if it's gaining 5 feet in elevation every 
> mile you ride?
>
> I didn't think so. ;-)
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Eric Norris  > wrote:
>
>> I would check with Peter White, but my guess is that shorting the 
>> terminals on hub would be very, very bad for the hub.
>>
>> I ride with dyno hubs on several bikes. With modern hubs and LED lights, 
>> the drag is negligible. Turning the lights off reduces the drag even more, 
>> but I like to have them on as running lights for better visibility.
>>
>> --Eric N
>
>
>
> -- 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Small Gray Trunk Sack/King Cages/Berthoud Touring Saddles

2016-09-28 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Sent PM on Berthoud 2

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 6:20:18 PM UTC-6, johnb wrote:
>
> Saddle 2 
> Grey Trunk Sack still available.
>
> john
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Custom fork?

2016-09-28 Thread Surlyprof
What about some of the forks they sell at SOMA?  They have a variety of fork 
styles in both 1" and 1 1/8".  Here is an example: 
http://store.somafab.com/soclcucyfo.html

John

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Re: [RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Peter White
Actually, shorting the terminals will do no damage at all, at least not to
any Schmidt hub. And I doubt it would damage any other dynamo hub. It's
nothing to worry about.

Also, the drag the OP noticed with the bike upside-down is real, but the
effect is exaggerated if there's little or no mass being moved, as is the
case with the bike upside-down. With the rider on the bike, the rider's
mass acts as a buffer to the effect of the drag. Inside a SON 28 there are
26 magnets attached to the inside of the outer hub shell, between the spoke
flanges. They are, in a sense, trying to keep the hub from rotating. As the
hub does rotate, there are 26 points during each rotation of the wheel
where the magnets are trying to keep the hub from rotating, and they
alternate with another 26 points where the hub wants to rotate. As the hub
rotates a bit in one direction or the other, the magnets are trying to
bring the hub shell back to its earlier position. It's like riding down a
road that goes up and down, up and down. Gravity tries to keep you in one
of the low points on the road. So imagine that the road is essentially
level over a long distance, but undulates up and down every 20 feet or so.
>From the top of each rise, you speed up just a bit for 20 feet until you
get to the bottom, and then you slow down for 20 feet. This repeats over
and over. The rider's mass is momentum, and the heavier the rider, the less
he will speed up on those 20 foot down sections, and the less he will slow
down on the 20 foot up sections. Over a long distance, there's hardly any
difference in your average speed.

So, when you're riding a bike with a dynamo hub, with each revolution of
the hub, you slow down and speed up 26 times, but since you have a great
deal more mass at the rim rotating with you riding than with the bike
upside-down, the effect, the amount that the wheel's speed actually changes
26 times per revolution, is tiny. Flip the bike upside-down and spin the
wheel, you can easily see the speed changing.

In both scenarios, rider on the bike and rider off, the actual drag is the
same. And with the lights off, it's equivalent to the added work you do
climbing 1 foot of elevation every mile you ride. And it's about 5 times
that with the lights on. Can you tell the difference if you're riding a
road that's perfectly level, or if it's gaining 5 feet in elevation every
mile you ride?

I didn't think so. ;-)

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> I would check with Peter White, but my guess is that shorting the
> terminals on hub would be very, very bad for the hub.
>
> I ride with dyno hubs on several bikes. With modern hubs and LED lights,
> the drag is negligible. Turning the lights off reduces the drag even more,
> but I like to have them on as running lights for better visibility.
>
> --Eric N



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[RBW] Re: FS: Last round of parts for sale...

2016-09-28 Thread Eric Karnes
Hub and Chainring have been sold...

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 1:40:54 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> What's left with some updated pricing (all prices include shipping in 
> ConUS):
>
> Sturmey Archer S3X 3speed Hub (36h) with 18t Freewheel, Stem Thumb 
> Shifter, and Housing. Just add new cable. Good condition, works well. 
> Indicator chain is a bit rusty…still works fine, but you can replace for 
> five bucks if you so desire. $70
>
> Sugino 40T and 26T Chainrings. New. Standard gearing for the Riv Low 
> Double. $25 for both
>
> Sugino RD 165mm 130bcd Crankset with 48T Ring. Good condition. 130bcd. $45
>
> If you're interested and feel I'm pricing too high, make me an offer!
>
> Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Last round of parts for sale...

2016-09-28 Thread Eric Karnes


What's left with some updated pricing (all prices include shipping in 
ConUS):

Sturmey Archer S3X 3speed Hub (36h) with 18t Freewheel, Stem Thumb Shifter, 
and Housing. Just add new cable. Good condition, works well. Indicator 
chain is a bit rusty…still works fine, but you can replace for five bucks 
if you so desire. $70

Sugino 40T and 26T Chainrings. New. Standard gearing for the Riv Low 
Double. $25 for both

Sugino RD 165mm 130bcd Crankset with 48T Ring. Good condition. 130bcd. $45

If you're interested and feel I'm pricing too high, make me an offer!

Eric

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[RBW] Re: DC Area Friends Meet-up?

2016-09-28 Thread Pondero
Tony, for Friday (10/14), it looks like I'll have most flexibility in the 
afternoon (perhaps lunch onward).  There are grandson activities in the 
morning.  A catch-up would be delightful.

Since I sold the Hilsen to help fund the project bike, it was either the 
Rambler or the Quickbeam.  Because Shawn (Urbanadventureleague) is 
promoting a "Three Speed Challenge" in October, I gave serious 
consideration to converting the 'Beam back to three speed mode and using it 
for the GAP tour.  But the Rambler won out in the end.  That said, I'll be 
converting the QB back to three speeds when I return and cheer the rest of 
those participating from the sideline.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas


On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 12:28:34 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Chris looks like another great itinerary and I'll give yet another 
> endorsement for Husky Haven, my dad and i status the in the cabin/house 
> which is on the town side but the camp ground looked immaculate as well.
>
> Columbus day weekend is my big camp weekend out in Winchester VA and I'm 
> not able to get off work early in the week but something might work out for 
> the Friday depending on how your timing comes together.  I'd love to catch 
> up, will you be bringing the Rambler?!?
>
> Tony
>
>

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Re: [RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Lungimsam
See this thread and what was said
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/Drag/rbw-owners-bunch/XtLm5IU2xpE

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Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Andy,
Thanks for the report of success.  When the doc mentioned a stationary bike
for motion without a load, I thought it had promise also.  Once I get past
surgery and into rehab, I'll let the PT determine when I'm ready for it.
But, by then, I will probably have a new smart trainer set up in my too
small living room.

Thanks.

Tim

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:09 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I had an eventful ACL blowout, reconstruction and rehabilitation into
> which cycling fit very well. Probably too well under the circumstances, but
> the net result was the reintroduction of cycling as an enjoyable activity.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 2:17:43 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>> Just to give an update on my knee...
>>
>> The MRI showed it was not a meniscus tear.  It's an ACL tear.  It is not
>> likely to be going bone on bone anytime soon, but it will delay recovery.
>> I will be getting reconstruction surgery late October or early November
>> followed by six months of rehab.  I kind of hope the PT will let me start
>> riding again before the end of rehab even if that is during the wet/rainy
>> season here.  It will certainly delay my building up to any kind of mileage
>> for a while.
>>
>> I got almost eleven miles on it before it got parked.  Though I now have
>> the parts to complete it, fender nut, fender spring thing, Brooks mud
>> flaps, and dyno tail light, I will wait on finishing the tweaks until I am
>> able to ride it again and and verify the changes.  It's still pretty to
>> look at, but I will be moving it from my too small living room to storage
>> until I can use it again.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Tim Butterfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my
>>> left knee and my 'get acquainted with Homer' plan has been put on temporary
>>> hold.  I will continue to lurk on and off, but my occasional banter has
>>> been put on hold a bit 'til I get things sorted.  I now need to follow up
>>> with an orthopedic and find out whether it was medial/lateral,
>>> inside/outside, and what kind of delay this may put on my riding.  Ugg.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Eric Norris
I would check with Peter White, but my guess is that shorting the terminals on 
hub would be very, very bad for the hub. 

I ride with dyno hubs on several bikes. With modern hubs and LED lights, the 
drag is negligible. Turning the lights off reduces the drag even more, but I 
like to have them on as running lights for better visibility.

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> To the question posed in the original post:
> 
> The drag will be the same. Unplugged or Off, the load on the hub is the same. 
> It's an open circuit. 
> 
> The thing I don't know is what the drag would be if you shorted the hub 
> terminals together 
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[RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
To the question posed in the original post:

The drag will be the same. Unplugged or Off, the load on the hub is the same. 
It's an open circuit. 

The thing I don't know is what the drag would be if you shorted the hub 
terminals together 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm SimpleOne in LA Craigslist

2016-09-28 Thread Belopsky
Too bad it's not one size smaller. I'd be silly and buy another frame. n+1

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 1:19:47 AM UTC-4, Paul S wrote:
>
> That's me - bought the frame from a list member a few months ago but 
> couldn't quite reconcile with the sizing. I was planning to post it here 
> and on the iBOB list along with some other stuff in about a week. 625 + 
> shipping to members of either list. 
>
> Would also love to trade for a 60/62 QB or SO if someone wants to size 
> down. 
>
> Paul 
> Pasadena, CA

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[RBW] Re: question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Philip Kim
my understanding is that when you spin wheel you will notice drag, but it 
doesn't generate as much power as your legs. So when you are actually 
riding at high speeds the drag is less noticeable. I could be wrong. i've 
got dyno hubs on all my bikes and haven't felt noticeable drag, but then 
again, i haven't rode a non-dyno hub wheelset in 3 years.

On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 11:44:24 AM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was curious about the effect on drag of turning my dynamo headlight on 
> or off. 
>
> So I flipped my bicycle over, spun the wheel, and compared "light on" to 
> "light off." The answer, unremarkably, is that the dynamo does cause some 
> drag. Maybe more than I expected.
>
> But I'm curious - can I reduce drag even more by unplugging the dynamo 
> wires? The answer is probably clear and obvious to those who understand how 
> these things work, but I couldn't really tell from my clumsy attempts to 
> spin the wheel and compare. Hard to know if I'm spinning with exactly the 
> same force, etc. 
>
> Does anybody know the answer?
>
>
>

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[RBW] question re hub-dynamo drag

2016-09-28 Thread Jim S.
Hi all,

I was curious about the effect on drag of turning my dynamo headlight on or 
off. 

So I flipped my bicycle over, spun the wheel, and compared "light on" to 
"light off." The answer, unremarkably, is that the dynamo does cause some 
drag. Maybe more than I expected.

But I'm curious - can I reduce drag even more by unplugging the dynamo 
wires? The answer is probably clear and obvious to those who understand how 
these things work, but I couldn't really tell from my clumsy attempts to 
spin the wheel and compare. Hard to know if I'm spinning with exactly the 
same force, etc. 

Does anybody know the answer?


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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA, Ibex, Lights, parts

2016-09-28 Thread Julian
Update with what's still available: 

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 4:11:59 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> For Sale: All prices are shipped w/in CONUS
>
>
> 1) MUSA black/grey chambray shirt, size XXL in excellent condition. $45
>
> 2) Ibex  black zip front sweater merino wool. Like new. Size XL. $100
>
> 3) Center for Appropriate Transit Rain Cape — made in USA. Large, olive, 
> with hood. Like new. Lightweight waxed canvas. $100
>
> 4) B LYT Plus headlight, new, no wires. $30
>
>
> Photos here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskHDP8JQ
>
>
> Please respond off list. 
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-28 Thread ascpgh
Tim,

I had an eventful ACL blowout, reconstruction and rehabilitation into which 
cycling fit very well. Probably too well under the circumstances, but the 
net result was the reintroduction of cycling as an enjoyable activity.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 2:17:43 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> Just to give an update on my knee...
>
> The MRI showed it was not a meniscus tear.  It's an ACL tear.  It is not 
> likely to be going bone on bone anytime soon, but it will delay recovery.  
> I will be getting reconstruction surgery late October or early November 
> followed by six months of rehab.  I kind of hope the PT will let me start 
> riding again before the end of rehab even if that is during the wet/rainy 
> season here.  It will certainly delay my building up to any kind of mileage 
> for a while.
>
> I got almost eleven miles on it before it got parked.  Though I now have 
> the parts to complete it, fender nut, fender spring thing, Brooks mud 
> flaps, and dyno tail light, I will wait on finishing the tweaks until I am 
> able to ride it again and and verify the changes.  It's still pretty to 
> look at, but I will be moving it from my too small living room to storage 
> until I can use it again.
>
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>> Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my 
>> left knee and my 'get acquainted with Homer' plan has been put on temporary 
>> hold.  I will continue to lurk on and off, but my occasional banter has 
>> been put on hold a bit 'til I get things sorted.  I now need to follow up 
>> with an orthopedic and find out whether it was medial/lateral, 
>> inside/outside, and what kind of delay this may put on my riding.  Ugg.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
>

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