[RBW] FS: Brooks Cambium C17 in Rust

[Dennis Hogan]

Hi all,

I have a gently used Brooks Cambium C17 in Rust. There are a few marks and 
wear spots - see the link to the pictures:   https://flic.kr/ps/26Rmjy 
 (hope this works - can send pics directly if needed)

I estimate I have about 2000 miles on it. It was on my A. Homer Hilsen. I 
loved the way it felt but have switched to the carved version and love that 
even more.

Asking $90 which includes shipping to the lower forty-eight. PayPal friends 
and family preferred.

The pictures show it a little darker than in real life. You'll notice the 
lighter smudges on the left side of the saddle and around a couple rivets 
where I tried to clean it and also a little freying of the edges on the 
rear end.

Dennis in PDX

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[RBW] FS KMC Chain X10.93 10 speed

[Bruce Smitham]

New in box KMC Chain X10.93 10 speed $20 plus a few bucks shipping CONUS

Bruce in San Diego

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset

[Bruce Smitham]

Hi Jeff,

How about $10 for shipping? So $95.00 total via paypal friends & family to:
wineh...@gmail.com

Let me know where you want it shipped?

Thanks,

Bruce

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 9:29 PM, sameness  wrote:

> Price shipped to 90064?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 4:24:07 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>
>> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great
>> condition with less than 60 miles. Few scratches as seen in pictures $85
>> plus shipping CONUS.
>>
>> Bruce in San Diego
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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[drew]

I'll buy if they can match the gusset to my skin tone

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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset

[sameness]

Price shipped to 90064?

Thanks!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
> condition with less than 60 miles. Few scratches as seen in pictures $85 
> plus shipping CONUS.
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Re: [RBW] New tires for the Hunq

[Reed Kennedy]

My Hunq is currently wearing these:
http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/mtb-reviews/schwalbe-big-one-2016

Which are available for CHEAP here:
http://www.jensonusa.com/Schwalbe-Big-One-29-Tire

I happily paid well over twice that for mine. I've got them set up
tubeless, and I'd say they're not quite as supple as a non-EL Compass tire,
but pretty close. (Butt-dyno, no data to back it up.)

If you want big, plush, supple, no knobs, I say give these a try! I'll be
replacing them with the same unless Compass comes out with a puffier 700C
offering.


Reed

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> I'm looking to put some new rubber on the Hunq. I'll be taking it this
> summer to the Walnut Creek area, then to Moab, then Boulder. Currently I'm
> riding Schwalbe Smart Sams. At Deacon Patrick's recommendation I'm strongly
> considering Racing Ralphs. But here's the thing, I don't really ride in
> mud. In fact, most of the time, I ride the Hunq on pavement, but want to
> use it more on dirt and gravel. I might ride it on some singletrack (which
> is what I originally envisioned when I bought it but I've only used it for
> that about 5-10%, at the most). So, I think I'd like something much more
> supple, but still fat. From what I've read from Jan (and I know that his
> research will probably skewed somewhat toward what he likes and sells, but
> it still makes sense) knobbies are really only helpful in mud, or certain
> snow conditions. Having fallen in love with Compass EL on all my bikes but
> the Hunq, I want a tire that will be comparable. It seems like the Comapss
> Snoqualmie Pass at 700x44 might not be quite fat enough for the Hunq. So,
> thoughts?
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[RBW] Re: New tires for the Hunq

[stonehog]

Bingo - those are exactly what you want. Make sure you get the 
liteskins: https://www.schwalbe.com/en/offroad-reader/thunder-burt.html  

P.S. if you go tubeless, you won't get (m)any flats, and they roll even 
better/softer!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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> Sounds like Schwalbe Thunder Burts are exactly what you need. 
> David 
> River Grove, IL

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Re: [RBW] New tires for the Hunq

[Patrick Moore]

FWiW, I like the 700C X 50 mm Schwalbe Furious Fed for combined pavement
and sandy dirt riding. The FFs are sub-Compass-EL membrane thin (360
Pelouze mail scale grams per tire), but have tiny knoblets on the tread
and, more to the point, bigger knobs on the edges for cornering, and I
think these help traction on sand.

It's hard to parse all the factors -- surface, knobs/knoblets, crank arm
length, riding position; and I've not used the wider Compass tires; but by
a seat of the pants evaluation, I'd have to say that the FFs are very much
worth considering if your riding combines a good portion of pavement as
well as dirt.

I find myself riding a tooth smaller in back than I would expect, with the
FFs; OTOH, the cranks on the FF-shod Matthews are 175 mm, and not the 170 I
prefer on my road bikes.

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> I'm looking to put some new rubber on the Hunq. I'll be taking it this
> summer to the Walnut Creek area, then to Moab, then Boulder. Currently I'm
> riding Schwalbe Smart Sams. At Deacon Patrick's recommendation I'm strongly
> considering Racing Ralphs. But here's the thing, I don't really ride in
> mud. In fact, most of the time, I ride the Hunq on pavement, but want to
> use it more on dirt and gravel. I might ride it on some singletrack (which
> is what I originally envisioned when I bought it but I've only used it for
> that about 5-10%, at the most). So, I think I'd like something much more
> supple, but still fat. From what I've read from Jan (and I know that his
> research will probably skewed somewhat toward what he likes and sells, but
> it still makes sense) knobbies are really only helpful in mud, or certain
> snow conditions. Having fallen in love with Compass EL on all my bikes but
> the Hunq, I want a tire that will be comparable. It seems like the Comapss
> Snoqualmie Pass at 700x44 might not be quite fat enough for the Hunq. So,
> thoughts?
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[RBW] New tires for the Hunq

[David Banzer]

Sounds like Schwalbe Thunder Burts are exactly what you need. 
David 
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] New tires for the Hunq

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm looking to put some new rubber on the Hunq. I'll be taking it this summer 
to the Walnut Creek area, then to Moab, then Boulder. Currently I'm riding 
Schwalbe Smart Sams. At Deacon Patrick's recommendation I'm strongly 
considering Racing Ralphs. But here's the thing, I don't really ride in mud. In 
fact, most of the time, I ride the Hunq on pavement, but want to use it more on 
dirt and gravel. I might ride it on some singletrack (which is what I 
originally envisioned when I bought it but I've only used it for that about 
5-10%, at the most). So, I think I'd like something much more supple, but still 
fat. From what I've read from Jan (and I know that his research will probably 
skewed somewhat toward what he likes and sells, but it still makes sense) 
knobbies are really only helpful in mud, or certain snow conditions. Having 
fallen in love with Compass EL on all my bikes but the Hunq, I want a tire that 
will be comparable. It seems like the Comapss Snoqualmie Pass at 700x44 might 
not be quite fat enough for the Hunq. So, thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie Stapleton]

Yay! I look 👀 forward to seeing/meeting you. I'm on my fairly new Atlantis. 
Keep fingers 🤞 for no rain. Lookin' good right now.

> On Feb 19, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
> 
> Good stuff Kellie! It looks like BART can get me there in time, so I'm gonna 
> try and make it!
> 
> Now, which bike...
> 
> 
> Reed
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Kellie  wrote:
>> Correction: March 4.
>> 
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>>> Chasing Mailboxes has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) has 
>>> #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's Coffee Outside Bay Area (SF): first meet-up 
>>> is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, near 
>>> Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or 
>>> thermos), share the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only 4.5 
>>> miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of 
>>> the way. More info @cowboygrrl (Instagram).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Hi Pudge. What is the saddle height on your bike, please?  I'm sure a 58 is 
much too brig for me.  My pbh is only 77.  

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[RBW] Re: FS Thomson stem

[Bruce Smitham]

The Thomson stem is sold

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:51:01 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
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> For sale is a new in package Thomson X2 stem in black. 1 1/8" threadless, 
> 31.8 clamp, 17 degree rise 100mm length $70 (or best offer) plus shipping 
> CONUS
>
> Bruce in San Diego
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Reed Kennedy]

Good stuff Kellie! It looks like BART can get me there in time, so I'm
gonna try and make it!

Now, which bike...


Reed

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Kellie  wrote:

> Correction:
> *March 4.*
> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>>
>> *Chasing Mailboxes* has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains
>> (Vancouver) has #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's *Coffee Outside Bay Area 
>> *(SF):
>> first meet-up is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay
>> Trail, near Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up
>> (or thermos), share the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only
>> 4.5 miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail
>> most of the way. More info @cowboygrrl (Instagram).
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

Correction: 
*March 4.*
On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>
> *Chasing Mailboxes* has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) 
> has #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's *Coffee Outside Bay Area *(SF): first 
> meet-up is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, 
> near Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or 
> thermos), share the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only 4.5 
> miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of 
> the way. More info @cowboygrrl (Instagram).
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie Stapleton]

whoops a typo! yes cowboygrrl, thanks for letting me know. Sorry we’ll miss you 
(hope there is a we), and I’m hoping this’ll be a weekly event, and I’ll see 
you the following week. Please spread the work for me.
> On Feb 19, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Jim M.  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a great idea! I couldn't find @coyboygrrl (good name though), but 
> did find @cowboygrrl. I will be out of town that day, though, but look 
> forward to the next one.
> 
> thanks,
> jim m
> wc ca
> 
> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
> Chasing Mailboxes has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) has 
> #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's Coffee Outside Bay Area (SF): first meet-up is 
> Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, near Salute 
> Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or thermos), share 
> the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only 4.5 miles from the El 
> Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of the way. More info 
> @coyboygrrl (Instagram).
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Jim M.]

Sounds like a great idea! I couldn't find @coyboygrrl (good name though), 
but did find @cowboygrrl. I will be out of town that day, though, but look 
forward to the next one.

thanks,
jim m
wc ca

On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>
> *Chasing Mailboxes* has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) 
> has #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's *Coffee Outside Bay Area *(SF): first 
> meet-up is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, 
> near Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or 
> thermos), share the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only 4.5 
> miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of 
> the way. More info @coyboygrrl (Instagram).
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rawland Drakkar frame/fork/rack, Swift Ozette, Revelate, Shopville Sack, Vintage Blackburn

[timclark8...@gmail.com]

Bags and frame sold.

Rims and Blackburn rack still available.

Thanks!

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 12:50:41 PM UTC-8, timcla...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> After swapping a few bikes around I have a frame and accessories to find 
> new homes. For sale:
>
>
> *Rawland Drakkar (Medium) + J Bryant Custom Rack, frame and fork & rack.* 
> Excellent cond. $450.00 plus bike flight shipping.
>
> Geometry info: 
> https://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/rawland-drakkar-porn/
>
>
> *Swift Ozette Large, good condition*, holes for Berthaud  $100
>
>
> *Revelate Frame Bag* (Salsa Large), Lightly used excellent, El Mariachi/ 
> LG Fargo/ XL Mukluk/ XL Beargrease and others.  $100 shipped
>
>
> *Rivendell Sackville ShopSack Medium* - Olive, with lil' zippered 6"x8" 
> pocket, lightly used, great condition,  $50 shipped
>
>
> *Jim Blackburn Vintage Front Rack*, NOS, some shop wear,  $65
>
>
> *Stans 29er ZTR Arch EX Rims* (disc) 32 hole, Great used condition,  $90 
>
>
> Photos here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/113550232@N02/albums/72157676990241983
>
>
> Please reply off list. PayPal “friends and family” preferred. Happy to 
> provide more details.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Clark
>
> Portland, OR
>
> http://www.thetimberandstone.com/
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: (pricey?) 54cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Belopsky]

it does sound like he/she picked it up and is flipping it, hm. wonder where 
from. i keep a pretty close ear to the ground in Michigan here and did not 
see it, so mustve been a local sale somewhere.


On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
> Make an offer that suits you. From reading the description it seems like 
> the seller picked it up and is flipping it. It does look very clean.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 5:03:20 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote:
>>
>> I've been on the hunt as well and I would say that is surely on the high 
>> end of pricing.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-54-cm-Quick-Beam-bicycle-single-speed-with-flip-flop-hub-/142282631119
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell tandem builds

[René Sterental]

I've ordered a set of custom wheels from Rich, White Industries 40 spokes
F/R in silver and the tandem Silver crankset RBW offered a while back. Have
a set of Mini-Motos that I had ordered to test but never installed. The
rest is TBD. No fenders so I can put it on a roof rack as it will be for
fair weather riding assuming I can slowly get my wife to enjoy it.

No idea yet about shifters or handlebars, but it'll be for upright riding.
Have several I'll test to see what I like best.

No idea about tires yet either. Haven't done any research yet.

I do have a B67 and B67S Select saddles, so let's hope my wife likes hers.
Otherwise, they won't match! ;-)

Decided in the orange frame as I don't have any bike that color. Hope it's
bright and shinny, as the first test wasn't approved.

Now have to figure how to store it... and if another bike will leave.

René

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 6:20 PM Julian Westerhout 
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Like Bill, I will likely build ours up as a Clem-istic tandem.
> Velocity/Rich wheelset with generator hub. Silver cranks. V-brakes (I'd
> actually prefer cantilevers, but the way the rear seat cluster is built
> looks like it will preclude that without a lot of bodging). Suntour ratchet
> thumbshifter, low gears. It will have fenders -- we'll use it both as a
> town bike and for riding gravel trails in WI and MO (and possibly
> elsewhere). We'll have a front rack -- either a Gamoh or a Nitto/Wald combo
> for a shopsack.
>
> I'm expecting that soon Riv will reveal some possible build package
> options.
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, Il
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 4:13:18 PM UTC-6, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if any prospective Rivendell tandem owners would be
> willing to share what they were thinking about for their builds.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

[BenG]

Helpful, thank you all. In case my wife joins me, a big 2-person sounds right, 
although she wants to just meet me there with the camper :)  Wanted a Hilleberg 
(seemed like the Rivendell of tents) but taking good advice to start cheap. Eye 
on a Eureka Spitfire - under $200, long and tall, not too heavy.

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[RBW] Asphalt Camouflage ... and the Solution

[Deacon Patrick]

A great Quickbeam ride today (and loving the tweed saddlebag!)! Rode up to the 
top of Lovell Gulch by the road (trail is snowed and iced in). A warm 40˚F 
turned to a brisk 40˚F as the clouds rolled in. 90 minutes up, 30 minutes back. 
Grin.
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/ 
(link to the main blog, you may need to scroll down if I’ve posted anything 
else — I didn’t make it its own post).

With abandon,
Patrick

www.OurHolyConception.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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[RBW] Re: PSA: (pricey?) 54cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Les Lammers]

Make an offer that suits you. From reading the description it seems like 
the seller picked it up and is flipping it. It does look very clean.

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 5:03:20 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote:
>
> I've been on the hunt as well and I would say that is surely on the high 
> end of pricing.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-54-cm-Quick-Beam-bicycle-single-speed-with-flip-flop-hub-/142282631119
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

[Les Lammers]

Here are the two person tents at Sierra Trading Post. Some have a 25% off 
coupon. 
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/s~tents/specdataor~sleep%20capacity!2-person/

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 4:46:06 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote:
>
> Thanks, friends. "Riding there" is the new part of this for me. We started 
> in a Sears tent, upgraded to a nice Eureka for 10yrs, got a second Eureka 
> when daughters needed some space, then went along with  a pop-up camper to 
> preserve unity.  Itching to go back to a tent, and S24O is an ideal way. 
> Something to keep the bugs away at night is the essence.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[Clayton.sf]

I wish they went crazy with these. polka dots, fluorescent colors, mismatched 
legs, and a rigid belt (replaced all mine) would make me pull the trigger 
immediately.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

*Chasing Mailboxes* has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) 
has #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's *Coffee Outside Bay Area *(SF): first 
meet-up is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, 
near Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or 
thermos), share the sunrise 🌅, be with like-minded people 🚴🏼. Only 4.5 
miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of 
the way. More info @coyboygrrl (Instagram).





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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[Deacon Patrick]

Mark,

I've experienced a vast difference between hand build wheels and "stock" 
(Velocity, in my case). I destroyed my rear rim at 30mph on a curvy 
descent, snapping several spokes. Since then, on hand built (including 
Rich's) I've hit worse with more weight or lighter rims (on the QB) and 
nothing even out of true. There really is something to the craft of a 
handmade wheel yielding far more wear.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:34:36 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Yes. And worse--my new Clementine's new wheel. I had been off the bike for 
> a bit after some eye surgery. The first night coming home from work after 
> my layoff, I hit a pothole that had a pothole in it. It was still rideable 
> but after getting home and taking a look, it was clear the rim needed to be 
> replaced. This is an Atlas rim with a 2" Big Ben tire. I can only imagine 
> what might have happened if I had been on some skinny 32mm rubber...
> I am waiting for the 36h silver to come back in stock at Bikemania in NJ, 
> which sells it for $30 less than Velocity. They tell me next month. Not 
> many carry it. But don't worry, I have several alternatives that will see 
> me through, including a bike that has a healthy dose of Rivendell DNA!
>
> As for wall color, in my last house, I did a wall between the dining room 
> and kitchen in rusted Coreten steel. First I rebuilt the wall and sheathed 
> it in plywood, then I cut the 1/4" plate into random large rectangles, 
> which I then bolted to the plywood.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 3:03:44 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Mark! Not your new Clementine! How soon before it is road-worthy once 
>> more?!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Racks and Crankset

[Justin Schoop]

All items sold! Thanks everyone

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Re: [RBW] New tires, perhaps?

[panog]

@Mark in Beacon

Sometimes a pinched rim could be repaired using one of these 
http://t.harborfreight.com/6-inch-jaw-straight-sheet-metal-seamer-98728.html?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F
 and a sanding block afterwards. Do not try it with regular pliers; they got to 
have long straight jaws so they are guided by the undamaged rim flange. Done it 
with Velocity DV after a similar encounter with a pothole like the one you 
described. Both of the flanges were severely creased from the impact.

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[RBW] Re: Your S24O tent recommendation

[Surlyprof]

Ben,

I haven't ventured into S240 world yet but used to backpack a great deal. 
 I use a 2 lb. 2-person Marmot (or as my wife likes to call it a 
one-person, one-dog, I'm sleeping in the car tent) that is fairly similar 
to the Big Agnes that many are suggesting.  Having a little headroom is 
nice over a bivy.  A couple of other key features that I looked for, based 
on past experience, is the bathtub bottom with no seams until you are 3-4" 
off the ground.  Helps keep life a little dryer.  The other thing I found 
helped were tents that had pole straps that not only tightened up nicely 
but had a buckle that split the webbing in two parts.  Any moisture wants 
to wick up the webbing to the tent.  The buckle in the middle of the strap 
keeps that from happening.  Didn't know it would be such a nice feature 
until I started using it.  I also found that the mesh mattered.  I've had 
tents where the mesh actually obscured the view at night.  The Marmot has a 
darker purple mesh that is almost completely transparent when star-gazing 
at night.  That was an incredible upgrade after the previous tents.  

If you are interested in saving some money, REI's online garage is good but 
their garage sales are even better.  We bought a larger tent for car 
camping from an REI Garage sale.  They run them every couple of months to 
get rid of returned merchandise.  Go early, read the tags carefully (in 
case it says "ripped") and have a list of tents you are looking for before 
walking in the door.  We had a list of 4 tents we'd be happy with and found 
the 1st and 3rd on our list.  Got our top choice for about $60-70 for a 
$400 tent.

Good luck!
John

On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 9:13:51 AM UTC-8, BenG wrote:
>
> State parks within 30 miles on 3 compass points, and I have yet to do an 
> S24O. This is my year. What tent do you recommend, please? And thank you,
> Ben

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