Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Lum Gim Fong]

Sticky this thread please so readers are easy to find.

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[RBW] Re: Ram in the Dirt

[Fullylugged]

I rode my blue Ram on 30+ miles of gravel (out of a 54 mile ride) a few weeks 
ago, on Panaracer 1 1/2" tires. I had too much air in them for gravel, but the 
bike was still fine.

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[RBW] Wanted: LED Headlight

[Eric Norris]

I’m looking for a used Edelux, IQ-X or similar headlight, in silver. Anybody 
have one in good used condition that they don’t need?

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[RBW] Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[David Carner]

I removed the fenders from my Road Standard early this year after getting 
frustrated with some noise issues. Two weeks ago I participated in an organized 
ride, choosing the metric century option. With no fenders and warm temperatures 
I decided not to bother with rain gear in spite of the 100% chance of rain. I 
did take care to protect my leather saddle, top and bottom. The first 5 miles 
took place through a downpour. It then slacked off to a drizzle and actually 
stopped by mile 25, but shortly later resumed a steady rain for the duration. I 
did not notice any road spray from my front  wheel reaching my face, although I 
did get some from the rooster tails of those in front.  I keep a small Caradice 
bag behind the saddle with a spare tube and tire repair kit in it. It has 
zipper and flap with snaps. At the 40 Mille rest stop I happened to bump the 
bag and water squirted out of a vent hole. The bag was full of water. Since 
very little rain was hitting the bag from above, I assume spray from the back 
wheel was forcing water under the flap and through the zipper, which was closed.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[R Shannon]

Fantastic looking Bomba - with or without fenders! 

Garth, this one’s for you:-)

Best,
Richard

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> On May 19, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Father of Sam  wrote:
> 
> Here are a couple of pics of my current set-up from a couple of weekends ago, 
> in commuter form.  As soon as it stops raining the fenders come off.  Just 
> how I've done it for years... Yes, I suppose 'rack-less' is not the case 
> here, but I see it more as a basket than a rack (doubling as a light mount).  
> Hopefully those pics post...
> 
>> On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 6:51:59 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>> ...and feel free to post pics of your rackless, fenderless Rivbikes. Would 
>> be fun to see.
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[RBW] RIV Catalog Arrived

[Matt Beecher]

My wife said she threw out some “junk” catalogs that were in the mail. :(  
Although I am unlikely to buy another big purchase from Riv, I am hoping they 
pack a catalog in with my 650b Atlantis. I was excited to look through it.

Since I have not seen anyone comment on when the new frames will ship, I was 
told they will ship late next week.  I think the last of my parts should arrive 
by then.  

For those that were hoping for more coffee mugs, i inquired again in an email 
last week. I was told they might get some this winter. I wish I could reserve 
2-3 if it would help to secure the deal. 

Matt in Oswego, IL. 

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Joe Bernard]

Dude, low "path racer" bars on a double-tube Bombadil. That's sweet!

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[RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived

[Christopher Murray]

Arrived in Bismarck! Looks amazing. 

Chris

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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Leah Peterson]

Joe- Frye Campus, made famous in their heyday in the 60s and MADE IN AMERICA!

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> On May 19, 2018, at 12:31 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Leah, those are some serious boots!
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[RBW] Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[RichS]

What I like about fenders in general is they keep a fair amount of grit and 
debris out of the drivetrain even in dry weather.

Best,
Richard

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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, those are some serious boots!

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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[R Shannon]

Love it. I have to get one of these doormats.

Grant, if you’re reading this post how about a Rivendell inspired mat? I 
believe they would sell out in a heartbeat. 

Thanks!
Richard

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> On May 19, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
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> I don’t know why the photo is sideways - I’ll try from my iMac. Here goes..
> 
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> 
> 
>> On May 19, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
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>> Ryan, my heart! That was so sweet, and thank you so much. Now, look at this 
>> photo. Ha! Not as pretty as your wife’s doormat, but I found it at Target 
>> some time back and it’s reminiscent of TBBITW. My friend - who has an Etsy 
>> shop and also loves bicycles - made the scarf. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On May 19, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Abcyclehank  wrote:
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>>> Sorry that was the 1st pic I ever tried to post here.  This one may be 
>>> better.  Working via iPhone.
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Leah Peterson]

I don’t know why the photo is sideways - I’ll try from my iMac. Here goes..






> On May 19, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
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> Ryan, my heart! That was so sweet, and thank you so much. Now, look at this 
> photo. Ha! Not as pretty as your wife’s doormat, but I found it at Target 
> some time back and it’s reminiscent of TBBITW. My friend - who has an Etsy 
> shop and also loves bicycles - made the scarf. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 19, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Abcyclehank  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry that was the 1st pic I ever tried to post here.  This one may be 
>> better.  Working via iPhone.
>> 
>> Ryan
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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Leah Peterson]

Ryan, my heart! That was so sweet, and thank you so much. Now, look at this 
photo. Ha! Not as pretty as your wife’s doormat, but I found it at Target some 
time back and it’s reminiscent of TBBITW. My friend - who has an Etsy shop and 
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> On May 19, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Abcyclehank  wrote:
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[JohnS]

I'm on my second pair of Little Big Ben's from Riv. Wear well, rarely get 
flats, good grip in the rain and have the reflective side wall. Supple they 
are not, so I tend to pump them up to 60psi to compensate. I use my QB as 
my commuter in and out of Baltimore, there's a lot of broken glass on my 10 
mile commute. I have the supple light weight tires on my road bikes which 
don't have to deal with the mean streets of the city.

JohnS

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 12:51:59 PM UTC-4, Birdman wrote:
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> Thanks all, I have a feeling that this thread and your recommendations 
> will be a useful resource to many over the years.  I'm certainly benefiting.
>
> Keep 'em coming,
>
> Isaac
> Pdx
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[RBW] Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Joe Bernard]

You could go minimalist with Woody's Chop Chort wood fenders. The size, shape 
and tire clearance pretty much eliminates any concerns about a fender getting 
jammed and locking a wheel. They don't do a whole lotta fending, but the major 
spray on DT and bottom-of-bag is interrupted. 

If you zoom you'll note the fork-mounted dyno-light. Mine's not big enough to 
drop to the tire, but if it somehow did it would just skip off the top of it. 
There's nothing in front for the spinning wheel to jam it into. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3aaE5qvoUe15Gred2

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[RBW] MIT Atlantis frames have arrived at RBW

[Brett Callahan]

Yes! Billie bars came yesterday, new frame soon.  I can't wait.  

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[RBW] Are new bag colors coming?

[Joe Bernard]

I remember Grant saying recently that there's a new batch of blue coming that 
may not be the exact same shade. 

Getcher Larges (any color) now if you want 'em, I believe they're done.  

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[RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Abcyclehank]

Kelly,
Long time no talk.  Feel free to call if you want more details.
I had a 66cm Bike Friday briefly and was surprised at the ride for riders our 
size.  I second that the tire size (width) makes a difference when trying to 
calm the steering a bit.  Mine accelerated brilliantly and would have been a 
good fit for your intended purpose.
Although I adapted well to the ride and don’t see that being an issue for you.  
My wife did not like the look of me riding it. Her being a non cyclist at the 
time; thought I looked like a “bear on a tricycle” (6’6” 240lbs) and questioned 
why I was not riding my “normal” bikes (74cm Bombadil or 68cm Quickbeam.  Not 
that others opinions would significantly affect you nor I.  Nothing better than 
tightening up a Tilly for protection and riding off.

Now regarding the Bike Friday Tandem I would not pull the trigger without 
riding one first although they do hold used value and you could flip/resell 
easily.  Most who rave about them to my knowledge are not our size and ride 
them frequently with children and/or as introduction to Tandems.  
I know you have evolved away from Rivendell but you might want to try their 
tandem.  My wife wants to ride ours weekly and it is 100% better (more 
enjoyable) than the Jumbo Cannondales we each owned in the past. 
I consider mine custom-like and it is so dialed in we will never part with it.  
Grant’s willingness to add a size for us outliers is something I will be 
forever grateful for and what makes him and RBW special.  

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan
(616)928-4226 

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[RBW] Are new bag colors coming?

[iamkeith]

I meant medium "SaddleSack" getting redesign, but it looks like all but blue 
are gone anyway. 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[Birdman]

Thanks all, I have a feeling that this thread and your recommendations will 
be a useful resource to many over the years.  I'm certainly benefiting.

Keep 'em coming,

Isaac
Pdx

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[RBW] Are new bag colors coming?

[iamkeith]

I actually happened to ask Vince about this yesterday (not the color part, but 
why certain ones are missing.)  Sounds like the medium sackville is getting a 
slight redesign, so existing stock is moved to last chance section of website.  
Didn't sound like colors were changing, other than blue which has been 
disclosed, but I'm not positive about that.

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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

It's so good to "see" you on here, Ana PurpleRivGirl! I know - I had the same 
thoughts as you did. Why have one rack when you can have two? I spent my 
allotted bike cash on his bell, basket, net and mud flaps, so I'll wait on the 
front rack/Sackville bags now, but Christmas is coming!!! 

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Re: [RBW] Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[iamkeith]

I use fenders mostly because of the protection they provide to the bike, which 
is why all my Rivs other than the quickbeam have them. I treat them as more 
precious than Grant & Co. would like me to.

 As you say, I get drenched no matter what if its raining - but that's actually 
fairly rare in my climate and rarer yet that I ride in it.  A rack with a solid 
deck or a rear bag can help prevent the worst of the back stripe from the 
rooster tail, and i suppose a clip-on down tube splash guard like Deacon 
Patrick showed could even fit INSIDE a bag for occasional use, for a bike 
you're not concerned about keeping pristine.

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[RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Eric Douglas]

As to the handing of small wheeled folding bikes, I find that tire width 
make a huge difference.

I have Schwalbe Big Apple 20 x 2.15 tires on both my Bike Friday Llama and 
Swift Folder.  No problems at all doing a week long tour or a century on 
the Llama.

Both bikes came with more narrow tires, and the handling suffered.  As far 
as I can tell, the wider tires stabllize the steering,

Eric 
On SaturdRBW Owners Bunch an


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[RBW] Re: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[ascpgh]

D must have been very busy, doing very important and good things to accrue 
the karma which is about to visit him in the form of a new Rivendell.

Leah, I hope your deeds are kept on the same ledger and you benefit in some 
way from your act!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 1:26:49 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> Today started out with an early morning call from my sister, who said her 
> husband's old Specialized hybrid bike had been stolen from their yard. The 
> prior evening, her husband (who I'll call D), in his haste to greet his 
> wife and Rhodesian Ridgeback dog, ditched his trusty old green steed in the 
> yard and forgot about it. The next morning my sister left for work and 
> noticed her husband's helmet and u-lock had been cast into the neighbor's 
> yard. With a sinking feeling, she looked around for the bike, which was by 
> now, long gone. You know where this story is going...
>
> D was in need of a new bike. They just relocated to Minneapolis, which has 
> fabulous bike trails, and it is a shame to miss a day of riding to work. It 
> was not designated Best Biking City for nothing! He started looking at 
> Raleigh and Handsome and Surly, but when I got word I did my best sales 
> pitch(read: nagging) for Rivendell. Initially, he didn't want to pour that 
> much money into a bike that may be stolen (he works downtown). He was 
> pretty set on that sloping top-tube Raleigh, and I sighed in defeat and 
> waited for the photos. Suddenly my sister called and said D was having a 
> change of heart!  He wanted a step-through bike, because it's awfully nice 
> not to swing your leg over a top tube and kick the giant leather bag on 
> your rear rack. Also, it's nice when you don't rip your expensive pants 
> trying to dismount. Yes, a step-through bike is just the ticket - and 
> nobody makes them in his size. Oh wait - Rivendell does! 
>
> He did some research and discovered there's a special locked area for 
> employees to stow their bikes. It requires a key card and then he can use 
> his own locks, too. As long as he remembers to put his bike away before he 
> fawns all over his wife and dog, he has a good chance of keeping it away 
> from thieves. He is good for the money and now out of excuses. He deserves 
> a shiny new Rivendell awaiting him in his garage. Minneapolis deserves a 
> glorious new Rivendell traversing its paths. I deserve to have matching 
> Rivendells with my favorite brother-in-law. I think we can all agree on 
> what must be done here.
>
> D is an attorney at a big firm and has no spare time to call Rivendell and 
> order his bike, but guess who has all the time in the world for shopping 
> with other people's money? Yes, me, devoted sister that I am. My sister and 
> I are going to group call Rivendell (I wonder if that's ever been done) and 
> snatch that 59 cm green Clem L the website says they have in stock, so 
> please, nobody buy it before we get to it tomorrow! D gave us free reign on 
> how to set it up, asking only for a rear rack and basket that holds a large 
> load. He's kind of snazzy, so I'm going to use my Hail Mary credits and 
> deck out his Clem in some fancy extras as a surprise. 
>
> Won't he be delighted by the art on the box? The skill with which they 
> pack the bike? He's had only Target bikes and the stolen Specialized, which 
> was slowly giving out under his large frame and ridiculous loads of stuff. 
> Can you imagine how luxurious that Rivendell ride will feel to him? He will 
> be ruined for any other bike. 
>
> I'll send photos of the happy new customer when we get him up and running. 
> Now I'd better head for bed, though who can sleep with this kind of 
> excitement! 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Silver hubs, Pass & Stow rack, Bianchi bike

[ian m]

Some Riv content and Riv adjacent content:

26" wheelset with prototype Silver hubs and Mavic SUP ceramic rims $250


 


Rims and hubs purchased at Riv garage sale some years ago. I think hubs are 
rebranded Velocity? Rims 559x21. Great wheelset that will last a lifetime, 
I wish my Clem was built for 26"


Pass & Stow rack $225



Here it is on 650b Clem. May fit 700c if fork has top eyelets, not sure. 
Great shape, probably indestructible.


1993 Bianchi Project 5 $425



Cool bike. Lugged steel, Cunningham inspired dirt drops, kinda Rivish? 
17.5" frame. Probably a long shot. More info here:

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/6592924421.html


All prices negotiable but I am not pressured to sell. Shipping not 
included. 


Ian in PGH



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[RBW] Re: FS: 650b Single Speed/Dynamo Wheelset. Velocity Atlas, White Industries, Shimano Dynamo, Compass SBH Tires

[David B]

All sold.
Thanks!

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 at 12:49:09 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> The endless shuffle of parts and the elusive Redwood conundrum continues...
> Since building up a Trek 850 with Compass Rat Trap Pass tires, I've 
> concluded that despite different wheel sizes and handlebars, it doesn't 
> make sense to have my Redwood setup as 650b as the Trek rides pretty close 
> to the 650b'd Redwood setup. I've also been tempted to pick up a Roadini 
> frame for a road build. Silly when I have a road frame already, and should 
> probably just build my Redwood back up in that manner.
>
> Contact offlist if interested.
> Paypal for payment. Regular goods and services is fine.
> Can meet in general Chicagoland area for local transactions. I'm in very 
> near west suburbs.
> David
> River Grove, IL
>
> So, I'll regret this in a month or so, but letting go of the following 
> (refurbished RAID brakes might be available at some point too):
>
> 650b Wheelset 
> - Single speed/dynamo
> - Velocity Atlas polished rims
> - 36h both wheels
> - White Industries Eno single speed hub
> - single sided threading for freewheel (not fixed)
> - 135mm
> - Shimano DH-3N72 dynamo hub
>
> Handbuilt by Mariposa in Toronto. Wheels have about 1000 miles on them. 
> Very nice condition.
>
> $300 plus shipping.
>
>
> Compass Switchback Hill Tires
> - pair
> - standard casing
> - mounted and ridden on a very short test ride once everything was built 
> up, less than a mile
>
> $110 plus shipping for the pair. $100 if you'd like them with the wheelset.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Kellie]

Hey John: where's "the road that skirts along the base of the hills that 
surrounds the East Bay from San Jose up?"

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 11:24:34 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Bill's post on extreme commuting prompted me to take the path less 
> ventured home last week.  If I ride home instead of taking the train, I 
> usually ride out of San Jose through not the most picturesque neighborhoods 
> but eventually, it connects to the road that skirts along the base of the 
> hills that surrounds the East Bay from San Jose up.  This is a beautiful 
> route along horse ranches and meadows but I've always wondered what it 
> would be like to ride the bike path up to Alviso and the bay and then cut 
> over to the Fremont area.  I would love to report that it was a delightful 
> experience full of nicely cared for trails, beautiful vistas and gorgeous 
> views of the bay but... I cannot.  My extreme commuting turned into 
> "extremely awful commuting".  Riding from San Jose north on the Guadalupe 
> River Trail you get to see firsthand the massive number of homeless people 
> who have been priced out of the bay area.  Campsites and abandoned shopping 
> carts everywhere.  People were washing their clothes in the river!  It gave 
> the bay area a real third world feel.  The trail came out of the woods and 
> along the San Jose airport and then on to the back sides of a large number 
> of generically repetitive buildings housing various tech companies.  
> Nothing to see there.  It also opened up to full exposure to the winds 
> coming down off the bay.  This was the start of 14-15 miles of steady 
> headwinds. The ride also featured trails that ran alongside the 237 freeway 
> (more shopping carts) and miles of bike lane-ish stretches along 5 lanes of 
> Fremont Road heading into Fremont.  With few stop lights in that area, cars 
> were whizzing by at 60-70 mph.  
>
> Eventually, I made it home to a delightful greeting by our joyful dogs.  
> I'm happy to report that my trusty Hillborne hauled me and my office the 
> entire 19-20 miles without a hitch or a flat (lots of glass on this 
> route).  I now know what the path less taken is like and won't be rushing 
> back.  And, I got to see this totally tubular Hunquapillar in the wild:  
> https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPSbtDW_64rz3xB6kxN2yJgZnHHdAOYHvt13hyi
>
> Valuable lessons learned and a great workout was had.  Check!
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:01:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>> Back at the very beginning of my Rivendell career, in 2009, I was pretty 
>> much strictly a roadie.  My Hillborne and the idea of "country bike" opened 
>> up my world in many ways.  One of those ways was the idea of enjoying 
>> taking the long way from A-to-B.  Over that first year or so I hatched an 
>> idea for my 40-mile commute from El Cerrito to Union City.  Rather than 
>> treat it as a hilly road ride with a couple dirt trail detours, I 
>> contemplated doing it as a 25 mile mountain bike ride with a few road 
>> connectors.  I had most of the route in my head, but there were still 
>> several trails that I needed to add but had never ridden.  Now that I have 
>> a cool GPS unit, I was able to build my route on RideWithGPS and upload it 
>> to my device so I wouldn't get lost and wouldn't have to resort to the map 
>> 50 times.  
>>
>> Anyhow, here's my route, discreetly edited to begin at a starting point 
>> close-by but not-too-close to my front door.  RideWithGPS Extreme 
>> Commuting 
>>
>> I did the ride for the first time this morning, which felt like a cool 
>> accomplishment, since I'd been thinking about it for several years.  It was 
>> ~42 miles and about 4700 feet of climbing, and it was pretty freaking 
>> hard.  There were several pitches that my GPS assessed as >20% grade.  
>> There were rocky, bumpy, rooty sections that made my BMC Monstercross feel 
>> like serious underbiking.  The undeniable highlight is that these mountain 
>> bike trails are by definition car-free, and that was delightful.  I might 
>> decide to do the SFRandonneurs Marin Mountains 200k as a solo Permanent in 
>> May, and this Extreme Commute route is a great training ride for that.  
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> This was one of the 20% grades, which is hard to see in the photo.  My 
>> four finger salute was to celebrate passing 4,000 ft of climbing at this 
>> point.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So, make a plan, set a goal, see it through and celebrate
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito CA
>>
>> P.S. One of the reasons I was able to pedal up 20% grades was I just 
>> installed my turkey vulture shifter kit from Analog Cycles, which allowed 
>> me to 

[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[WETH]

I no longer own this bike, but for a while it had no fenders or racks.  I can’t 
speak to riding it in rain without fenders because I never did.
https://flic.kr/p/RVTfEU

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Patrick Moore]

Patrick FWIW, back when I had my Race Lite, I combined off-the-shelf
"motocross-style" f and r fenders* with ~5" strips of stiff, black plastic
zip tied to bottom of down tube and rear of seat tube, in effect continuing
coverage for the vestigial commercial fenders. Of course, this didn't work
as well as full Honjos, but it kept a great deal more mud off of me and the
bike than just the "moto-x" fenders.

* Much like these. I see that this bike also has a second rear fender under
the seatpost-mounted one; my plastic did similar duty.




On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> SKS MudX front fender. Blocks all face spash up to a certain air speed, at
> point my face catches up with the front spray. See it here (or in any of my
> posts, really). Also works great on the thinner QB.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/s9o
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[d2mini]

I couldn't have a commuter without fenders.

But for sure a sunny day bike. Wouldn't mind the occasional unavoidable 
puddle.


On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:50:03 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
> ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
> dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
> I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
> With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
> the face. The DT would block it.
> How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
> Or no big deal?
>
>
> I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
> anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
> rain gear.
> That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
> anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
> rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
> Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
> slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
> Rambouillet in the rain.
>
> One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
> and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.
>
> Fenderless safety question:
> If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
> will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.
>
>
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[RBW] Are new bag colors coming?

[d2mini]

Only reason I ask is because it looks like certain bags/sizes in certain 
colors are being discontinued, but couldn't really make sense of it (ie. 
why just one size).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Extreme Commuting--a checklist ride complete

[Kellie Stapleton]

Hi John: I thought of you when I heard about your experience down the 
Guadalupe. I used to ride that a lot when I lived on the peninsula. I feel sad 
to hear about the area for a lot of reasons. Let me know how you like it.

> On May 18, 2018, at 9:02 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:
> 
> This is fantastic!  Thanks, Kellie.  I live in Niles and have been looking 
> for a good route up the bay.  This looks perfect.
> 
> John
> 
> On Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 6:56:21 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
> Justin, here's the link: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27535193 
>  
> Fruitvale BART to Coyote Springs. Both Union City and Fremont BART not far 
> from Coyote Springs. Coyote Springs is fun in and of itself. Crandall Creek 
> trail is the termination at Coyote Springs but if you go the other way, 
> Alameda Creek trail, it goes all the way to Mission Blvd. Also, the bike path 
> over the Dumbarton Bridge interfaces at Coyote Springs. Cut across to the 
> South Bay via the Dumbarton Bridge. the choices are endless.
> Yes Bill, much is SF Bay Trail.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 1:01:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> 
> 
> Back at the very beginning of my Rivendell career, in 2009, I was pretty much 
> strictly a roadie.  My Hillborne and the idea of "country bike" opened up my 
> world in many ways.  One of those ways was the idea of enjoying taking the 
> long way from A-to-B.  Over that first year or so I hatched an idea for my 
> 40-mile commute from El Cerrito to Union City.  Rather than treat it as a 
> hilly road ride with a couple dirt trail detours, I contemplated doing it as 
> a 25 mile mountain bike ride with a few road connectors.  I had most of the 
> route in my head, but there were still several trails that I needed to add 
> but had never ridden.  Now that I have a cool GPS unit, I was able to build 
> my route on RideWithGPS and upload it to my device so I wouldn't get lost and 
> wouldn't have to resort to the map 50 times.  
> 
> Anyhow, here's my route, discreetly edited to begin at a starting point 
> close-by but not-too-close to my front door.  RideWithGPS Extreme Commuting 
> 
> 
> I did the ride for the first time this morning, which felt like a cool 
> accomplishment, since I'd been thinking about it for several years.  It was 
> ~42 miles and about 4700 feet of climbing, and it was pretty freaking hard.  
> There were several pitches that my GPS assessed as >20% grade.  There were 
> rocky, bumpy, rooty sections that made my BMC Monstercross feel like serious 
> underbiking.  The undeniable highlight is that these mountain bike trails are 
> by definition car-free, and that was delightful.  I might decide to do the 
> SFRandonneurs Marin Mountains 200k as a solo Permanent in May, and this 
> Extreme Commute route is a great training ride for that.  
> 
>  
> 
> This was one of the 20% grades, which is hard to see in the photo.  My four 
> finger salute was to celebrate passing 4,000 ft of climbing at this point.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, make a plan, set a goal, see it through and celebrate
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito CA
> 
> P.S. One of the reasons I was able to pedal up 20% grades was I just 
> installed my turkey vulture shifter kit from Analog Cycles, which allowed me 
> to run a Deore XT clutch rear derailer with Shimano 10sp indexed barcons (on 
> Thumbies).  I was glad to have a 26x36 low gear.  
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Deacon Patrick]

SKS MudX front fender. Blocks all face spash up to a certain air speed, at 
point my face catches up with the front spray. See it here (or in any of my 
posts, really). Also works great on the thinner QB.
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/s9o

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[Rich Lesnik]

I ride wider tires on my Frank Jones (same tires I had on the QB): 
Continental SpeedRide 44's.

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 5:08:42 PM UTC-7, Birdman wrote:
>
> In a recent thread, Wally and others were singing the praises of Jack 
> Browns on their Quickbeams. I have always run Paselas on mine, starting 
> with 32s, then 38s, and now the 35s that came on a new to me QB. Paselas do 
> the job for my urban, commute oriented riding, and I feel strangely 
> loyal/nostalgic about them, but they’re not blowing my mind. So what do you 
> all like in a 32-38mm tire on a Quickbeam, or on any bike for mostly urban 
> rides? 
>
> Isaac in Pdx

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[RBW] Re: Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Lum Gim Fong]

...and feel free to post pics of your rackless, fenderless Rivbikes. Would 
be fun to see.

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[RBW] Riding without fenders on Rivs reviews needed.

[Lum Gim Fong]

>From time to time I get the urge to drop the fenders/front rack and just 
ride, wheels free, with a saddle bag (Banana sax nowadays?)and attach me 
dino-light onto me front brake assembly.
I commute 20-30 miles round-trip when I commute. Roads only.
With wide DT carbonicbike I used to have I could get away with no spray in 
the face. The DT would block it.
How do the Rivbikes with skinnier DT fare in the rain? Spray in the face? 
Or no big deal?


I mean, anything heavier than a light rain and I get utterly drenched 
anyway, even with my correctly, neurotically mounted Honjos and nice J 
rain gear.
That stuff works great in light rains. But I get soaked to the bone in 
anything heavier anyway. Sometimes I feel anxious about the risk of 
rack/fender failures, so I check them  to keep everything snugged up.
Maybe I will keep the Bleriot the armoured vehicle and the Rambouillet the 
slimmed down bike and just see how it goes when I get caught on the 
Rambouillet in the rain.

One thing I love about fenders is I only get hit by falling, clean rain, 
and not from any nastiness on the road surface. That is a big plus.

Fenderless safety question:
If a front brake mounted edeluxe  drops onto your unfendered front wheel, 
will it stop the wheel, or just ride on top of it and not be a danger?

Thanks for your thoughts and experiences.


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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[Jon BALER]

Soma shikora in 38mm have been great commuting tires for me in suburban 
conditions 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[jandrews]

Compass Barlow Pass (38's) under SKS fenders on an older Quickbeam.. 
plenty of room and really made commuting on that bike super enjoyable.
the only issue I ever had with the Barlow Pass extra lights was getting a 
piece of glass embedded in the tire once and it caused a cut in the tread, 
but I continued (and continue) to ride those tires.
No issue and no flats.



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[RBW] Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[Conway Bennett]

Soma Shikoro 700x42 kevlar bead.  

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[RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Ron Mc]

oops, make that east coast of Australia - sorry

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 5:30:05 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
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> my nephew and his wife traversed both the west coast of Australia and the 
> continental North Sea shore on their bike Fridays hauling their toddlers in 
> trailers.  
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Re: [RBW] Billie Bar initial review

[Eric Daume]

I'm thinking about these. I have the same complaints about the original
Alba--too narrow and too straight back--so this looks like a good direction.

Eric

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 12:08 AM, adam leibow  wrote:

> in case anyone's curious. i bought some billie bars, and already have some
> miles on them. i didn't know these were coming out but i was checking the
> site periodically for the wavie bar and found these. i'm still gonna get
> the wavie bar for my hunqapillar but was happy to see these imho improved
> albatross. i had swapped out drop bars for albatross on my new canti-sam,
> but have always had mixed feelings about the albatross bar. i dont like how
> they come seemingly directly almost straight backwards towards you, and how
> narrow they feel. the billie's are better imho because they have more flair
> (a bit less gnarly sweep backwards) and are noticeably wider. they also
> have a way longer grippable real estate, and you can mount the brake levers
> forward or backward for a longer section of that grippable portion=more
> options/versatility. i chose to mount the brake levers pretty far forward,
> as the billies don't curve forward before turning backward quite as much as
> the alba's do, and i like my reach to be pretty stretched out. this allows
> a nice, more aggressive (though still technically very upright) descending
> position with brake levers in reach. and, if i'm chilling out, i can sit
> back and place my hands more towards the ends of the bars, a very upright
> sensation. most importantly, with the alba's i felt slightly out of control
> and endured a "a-second-too-late" sensation to steer to keep up with twisty
> singletrack or even road descents. the billie's width and added flair
> mitigate this to a degree that makes riding offroad quite a bit more
> enjoyable, while still being relaxed. so, im summary, billie=albatross+more
> flair outward/wider and longer grip portion. i am a fan for sure. here's
> some pics:
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[RBW] Re: Nitto R14 in front, mounting options

[Ron Mc]

no specific recommendation here, but showing how I used Tubus LM-1 clamps 
on a unicrown fork to mount a Mark's rack, on a CX bike with no holes or 
bosses for anything.  



with your traditional crown fork, and this rack mount is probably more 
versatile, but you asked for creative.  

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[RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Ron Mc]

my nephew and his wife traversed both the west coast of Australia and the 
continental North Sea shore on their bike Fridays hauling their toddlers in 
trailers.  

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[RBW] Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[J Edward]

I wore a few sets of Ruffy Tuffies to the casing on my Quickbeam, great tires. 
But it looks like they’re not around anymore. It might be apples to oranges but 
I’m running some wide 650b Gravelkings on my Clem and love them so much that’d 
I’d get a set of them for a 700c bike in a heartbeat, so I second the above 
recommendation!

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[RBW] Quickbeam: favorite tires?

[A. Douglas M.]

I liked the Voyageur Hypers in 38. They’re slick, so I’d lose traction going 
uphill in gravel or dirt. They have an excellent ride on flat gravel or 
smoother surfaces. They were also less than $20/tire. For rougher trails I’d 
like to try the gravel King’s or Steilacoom tubeless. I always end up riding 
mostly paved or dirt roads, though. 

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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Andy Beichler]

Gene Oberpriller. Now there is a name I have not heard in a long time. I 
used to get Velo News and several monthly magazine back in the pre internet 
days and his name would come through on occasion.  

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 12:49:52 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
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> Congratulations! 
>
> If you want an Riv-appreciative shop in Minneapolis to receive, assemble, 
> and tune the Cheviot, give One on One cycle studio 
>  a try.  It's at 110 Washington Avenue 
> downtown, near the sports arenas and Fulton brewery.  
> One on One is run by Gene Oberpriller, who was with Bridgestone in Grant's 
> time.  They have a couple classic Bridgestones (XO-1 and others) on 
> display, as well as a hip coffee shop and some very expensive new bikes of 
> all kinds.  Great people, and great bike culture.
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Today started out with an early morning call from my sister, who said her 
>> husband's old Specialized hybrid bike had been stolen from their yard. The 
>> prior evening, her husband (who I'll call D), in his haste to greet his 
>> wife and Rhodesian Ridgeback dog, ditched his trusty old green steed in the 
>> yard and forgot about it. The next morning my sister left for work and 
>> noticed her husband's helmet and u-lock had been cast into the neighbor's 
>> yard. With a sinking feeling, she looked around for the bike, which was by 
>> now, long gone. You know where this story is going...
>>
>> D was in need of a new bike. They just relocated to Minneapolis, which 
>> has fabulous bike trails, and it is a shame to miss a day of riding to 
>> work. It was not designated Best Biking City for nothing! He started 
>> looking at Raleigh and Handsome and Surly, but when I got word I did my 
>> best sales pitch(read: nagging) for Rivendell. Initially, he didn't want to 
>> pour that much money into a bike that may be stolen (he works downtown). He 
>> was pretty set on that sloping top-tube Raleigh, and I sighed in defeat and 
>> waited for the photos. Suddenly my sister called and said D was having a 
>> change of heart!  He wanted a step-through bike, because it's awfully nice 
>> not to swing your leg over a top tube and kick the giant leather bag on 
>> your rear rack. Also, it's nice when you don't rip your expensive pants 
>> trying to dismount. Yes, a step-through bike is just the ticket - and 
>> nobody makes them in his size. Oh wait - Rivendell does! 
>>
>> He did some research and discovered there's a special locked area for 
>> employees to stow their bikes. It requires a key card and then he can use 
>> his own locks, too. As long as he remembers to put his bike away before he 
>> fawns all over his wife and dog, he has a good chance of keeping it away 
>> from thieves. He is good for the money and now out of excuses. He deserves 
>> a shiny new Rivendell awaiting him in his garage. Minneapolis deserves a 
>> glorious new Rivendell traversing its paths. I deserve to have matching 
>> Rivendells with my favorite brother-in-law. I think we can all agree on 
>> what must be done here.
>>
>> D is an attorney at a big firm and has no spare time to call Rivendell 
>> and order his bike, but guess who has all the time in the world for 
>> shopping with other people's money? Yes, me, devoted sister that I am. My 
>> sister and I are going to group call Rivendell (I wonder if that's ever 
>> been done) and snatch that 59 cm green Clem L the website says they have in 
>> stock, so please, nobody buy it before we get to it tomorrow! D gave us 
>> free reign on how to set it up, asking only for a rear rack and basket that 
>> holds a large load. He's kind of snazzy, so I'm going to use my Hail Mary 
>> credits and deck out his Clem in some fancy extras as a surprise. 
>>
>> Won't he be delighted by the art on the box? The skill with which they 
>> pack the bike? He's had only Target bikes and the stolen Specialized, which 
>> was slowly giving out under his large frame and ridiculous loads of stuff. 
>> Can you imagine how luxurious that Rivendell ride will feel to him? He will 
>> be ruined for any other bike. 
>>
>> I'll send photos of the happy new customer when we get him up and 
>> running. Now I'd better head for bed, though who can sleep with this kind 
>> of excitement! 
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Re: [RBW] It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[Ana Candela]

Love this story, Leah :) It will come as no surprise to you that I vote that 
you get a front rack for the Wald basket and for the rear get a fabulous 
saddlesack! He’ll love it!
Happy #rivshopping :)

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