Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Justin Wyne
I was the guy messaging you to work with me off ebay but you didn't want 
to. Sounds like you are open to it after all

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 8:04:34 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote:
>
> I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead of 
> the 59 Clem H I have. In the end, a couple hundred difference in what I 
> might make between the two has me leaning more toward keeping the beautiful 
> Joe and selling the Clem at a good price to someone who wants it. If 
> someone here is still super interested in the Joe I might be willing to be 
> talked out of it. But I think I’m the end with some 2.1 tires on the Joe I 
> might be happy as a clam. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Drw
Are there any visual examples of the laterally ovalized tubes grant is talking 
about on a bike? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Ray Varella
I suspect something like a Legolas that takes 50mm 650 tires would attract a 
fair amount of attention. 

A bit pared down in stoutness from the current allrounders. 
A refresh of the original allrounder/XO-1 

I’m pretty sure I’d buy one. 

Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Sky Coulter
I like patrick’s notion of an atlantis special model, but as Joe mentioned, it 
sounds like Grant has a particular idea in mind, but while it sounds like it’ll 
look cool from the side, i think would be too redundant w my clementine for me.

Not that a special model atlantis wouldn’t be redundant w my joe appa, but 
that’s the kind of bike i like mostsky

> On Feb 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I very much support the idea of a "collectible" 25th model, even if Grant has 
> reservations. I think of it as a gift to ourselves for those of us who've 
> been on the road with them all these years. And I think the 'limited model' 
> status will sell it out. I'm all for Rivs that sell. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I very much support the idea of a "collectible" 25th model, even if Grant has 
reservations. I think of it as a gift to ourselves for those of us who've been 
on the road with them all these years. And I think the 'limited model' status 
will sell it out. I'm all for Rivs that sell. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
All Rivendells are collectors' models!

For a 25th anniversary model, I'd vote for a Rivendell track bike (with
that signature Rivendell handling). If I weren't being facetious, I'd have
to say that the Atlantis is probably a very good candidate for a special
production model, no, as being the oldest-running model.

Or bring back the Legolas under a non-trademarked name.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 8:29 PM Adam in Indiana 
wrote:

> I don't know, I personally would lean toward the second idea, a somewhat
> special ongoing model.  I don't like the idea of a Rivendell collector's
> frame.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:42:48 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Grant mentioned this as a possibility on the latest Blahg, and I'm
> curious to hear how much interest there is in it. I think it sounds swell,
> especially with the "Rivendell" name on it. I want one!
> >
> > Joe Bernard
> > Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
That I know. The premise is a dingle and a double chainring where you have
2 combinations adding up to the same number of teeth.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:35 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> If you make a dinglesoeed with the same teeth count, an ENO will be fine.
> However, it still may require tension adjustment when you change gears
> (though the gear teeth add up to the same number, the actual chain length
> still changes slightly).
>
> But if you’re trying to accommodate different teeth count, the ENO won’t
> have the necessary throw for adjustment. As a simplified example, if you
> had a 38t single front ring and a 16/19 rear dingle, an ENO is not going to
> cut it.
>
> Eric
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2019, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on
>> vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always
>> managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle
>> length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings
>> and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary.
>>
>> I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m  wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double
>>> chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think
>>> that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great
>>> photo of the set up
>>>
>>> [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG]
>>>
>>> Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger
>>> cog is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is
>>> the same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are
>>> talking about work as best it can.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
 Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
 back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
 Industries.

 On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:

> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take
> up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just
> happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your
> chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears
> that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. 
> No
> chain slop and very easy to use.
>
> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear
> hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread Kieran J
Aftermath of a wet Ram ride a few weeks back. Love this bike.

KJ

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread Kieran J
Aftermath of a wet Ram ride a few weeks back. Love this bike.

[image: IMG_5731.JPG]
KJ


On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Adam in Indiana
I don't know, I personally would lean toward the second idea, a somewhat 
special ongoing model.  I don't like the idea of a Rivendell collector's frame.



On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:42:48 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
> Grant mentioned this as a possibility on the latest Blahg, and I'm curious to 
> hear how much interest there is in it. I think it sounds swell, especially 
> with the "Rivendell" name on it. I want one!
> 
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.

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Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
If you make a dinglesoeed with the same teeth count, an ENO will be fine.
However, it still may require tension adjustment when you change gears
(though the gear teeth add up to the same number, the actual chain length
still changes slightly).

But if you’re trying to accommodate different teeth count, the ENO won’t
have the necessary throw for adjustment. As a simplified example, if you
had a 38t single front ring and a 16/19 rear dingle, an ENO is not going to
cut it.

Eric

On Saturday, February 2, 2019, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on
> vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always
> managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle
> length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings
> and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary.
>
> I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here?
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double
>> chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think
>> that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great
>> photo of the set up
>>
>> [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG]
>>
>> Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog
>> is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the
>> same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are
>> talking about work as best it can.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
>>> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
>>> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
>>> Industries.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>>>
 Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take
 up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just
 happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your
 chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears
 that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
 chain slop and very easy to use.

 I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear
 hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick, that sounds like the perfect use of the ENO eccentric hub and 2x2 set 
up. Brilliant!

With abandon,
Patrick, of the Highlands, not the Moor(e). Grin.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Dammit, I'm going to do this myself. Brother has a nice old Bianchi MTB for
cheap; vertical drops. Will get ENO; have Dingle; scavenge crankset and buy
appropriate rings. In fact, I might just try this with "magic
combinations". This will be a very cheap, very occasional use snow bike,
and I don't need to be particular about exact gi for Hi and Lo.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:10 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on
> vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always
> managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle
> length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings
> and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary.
>
> I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here?
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double
>> chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think
>> that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great
>> photo of the set up
>>
>> [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG]
>>
>> Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog
>> is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the
>> same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are
>> talking about work as best it can.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
>>> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
>>> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
>>> Industries.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>>>
 Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take
 up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just
 happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your
 chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears
 that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
 chain slop and very easy to use.

 I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear
 hub on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on
vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always
managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle
length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings
and a Dingle, just nudge the bb over a smidgen to compensate, if necessary.

I don't see what the problem is! What am I missing here?

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:30 PM ian m  wrote:

> If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double
> chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think
> that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great
> photo of the set up
>
> [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG]
>
> Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog
> is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the
> same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are
> talking about work as best it can.
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
>> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
>> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
>> Industries.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take
>>> up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just
>>> happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your
>>> chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears
>>> that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
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>>>
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[RBW] FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

2019-02-02 Thread Mike K.
Evening all,
Putting the Ram back on the market. It's 54cm. Pics are here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fJcLeXudQ5gKt4Ad9

$1,300 + shipping via bikeflights

And here's the build:
Seat tube: 54cm
Top tube: 55cm
Ultegra 6503 triple crank, 172.5mm, 52-42-30
Ultegra 6503 front derailleur
Deore M591 9sp rear derailleur
11-32 9sp cassette 
Tektro R539 sidepull brakes
Shimano bar ends.
Nitto Tallux Stem
Cambio Rino aero seatpost
Gary bars with TRP RRL levers
Front wheel is a Shimano hub with Sunrim CR18 36h rim
Rear is Deore hub to Mavic A319 36h
Panaracer Pasela 32cm tires
Saddle is not included

Let me know if you have questions

- Mike in ATX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ian, I’ve ridden the Dos ENO free wheel and now the Surly Dingle Cog with 
Sugino double. Both work fine. Chainline is a greater issue on paper and in the 
mind than on the bike. Grin.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
That's the point! ENO, Dingle in rear, XD2 NN/NN-2 in front!

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:22 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical
> dropouts.
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
>> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
>> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
>> Industries.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take
>>> up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just
>>> happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your
>>> chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears
>>> that are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
>>> chain slop and very easy to use.
>>>
>>> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread John M
*"Where in NM?*"

I'm in Silver City (where Rivs are more common than you might think).


john



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>> Hunqapillar from this morning's ride in sunny southern New Mexico
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan D.
I was going to sell mine as well and took off all the racks and made it 
lighter. I forgot how amazing the bike is. I know the new Atlantis gets all the 
attention, and it is a great bike, but the Joe is pretty much the same bike. 
It’s an amazing ride. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double 
chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think 
that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great 
photo of the set up

[image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG]

Hard to see but chainline is on target and perfectly straight, larger cog 
is to the left and almost touching the chain, the smaller chainring is the 
same up front. Machined to very specific tolerances to make what we are 
talking about work as best it can.

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a 
> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle 
> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White 
> Industries.
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up 
>> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens 
>> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain 
>> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that 
>> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No 
>> chain slop and very easy to use.
>>
>> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical
dropouts.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a
> Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle
> back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White
> Industries.
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up
>> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens
>> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain
>> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that
>> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
>> chain slop and very easy to use.
>>
>> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Or a chain tensioner.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:42 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

>  No need as far as I can see for a White Industries.
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up
>> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens
>> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain
>> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that
>> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
>> chain slop and very easy to use.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a Sugino
or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle back and
Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White Industries.

On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m  wrote:

> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up
> slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens
> to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain
> length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that
> are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No
> chain slop and very easy to use.
>
> I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear hub
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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Frozen?

2019-02-02 Thread lambbo
This is embarrassing but I think it was that the wheel bolt was not tight 
enough.   It hadn't been effecting the dynamo until ice got in, that's what 
pushed it over the edge and got it stuck. 
Thanks guys for the advice!

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[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Unless you're riding a too-big Saluki with almost no post showing, I don't 
think it'll work. Saluki/AHH is a dropbar-ish frame, Boscos reach wayyy back 
and need a long toptube. 

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[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Justin, Oakland
Jonathan -
I believe I just learned about these bad angle Boscos from your Instagram!
Glad to hear it. I'm expecting a trip to Riv next week it seems then...
-J

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>
> Justin, 
>
> Your bike won't look like that Cheviot because those are different bars 
> than the regular Boscomoose. There was an early run of the bars that were 
> not built to the correct specs and these were referred to as "bad angle" 
> Boscos. I know because I started a thread about it here, and then contacted 
> Riv, and Dave relayed the above the story. At that time, they still had 
> some of the bad angle bars, and I ordered those because I specifically 
> wanted that downward angle on the grip area. I love my bad angle Boscomoose 
> bars on my Appaloosa, but if you order some off the site, you'll be getting 
> the "regular" ones that have a grip area that runs closer to parallel with 
> the ground.
>
> Here's the thread I started a while back because I was curious on why some 
> of the bars looked different than the others:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/bad$20angle$20bosco%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/3fhrkyiTqw4/2GGYCGFJAgAJ
>
> Jonathan 
> (who deleted his first post to correct a typo)
>
> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:35:30 PM UTC-6, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks-
>> Looking for a pic of the BoscoMoose (58cm) on a Saluki/AHH/similarly 
>> geometried bike. I have almost talked myself into it for my Saluki to mount 
>> my baby seat on. But if it looks like the Cheviot on the product page then 
>> that's a No for Me, Dawg.
>>
>> Thanks ahead of time!
>> -J
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Reid Echols
I just made almost the same decision, Justin. Going to see how wide the Joe can 
go! It was great with 2.1 Thunder Burts. 

Reid in Austin 

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[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan K.
Justin, 

Your bike won't look like that Cheviot because those are different bars 
than the regular Boscomoose. There was an early run of the bars that were 
not built to the correct specs and these were referred to as "bad angle" 
Boscos. I know because I started a thread about it here, and then contacted 
Riv, and Dave relayed the above the story. At that time, they still had 
some of the bad angle bars, and I ordered those because I specifically 
wanted that downward angle on the grip area. I love my bad angle Boscomoose 
bars on my Appaloosa, but if you order some off the site, you'll be getting 
the "regular" ones that have a grip area that runs closer to parallel with 
the ground.

Here's the thread I started a while back because I was curious on why some 
of the bars looked different than the others:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/bad$20angle$20bosco%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/3fhrkyiTqw4/2GGYCGFJAgAJ

Jonathan 
(who deleted his first post to correct a typo)

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:35:30 PM UTC-6, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Hey folks-
> Looking for a pic of the BoscoMoose (58cm) on a Saluki/AHH/similarly 
> geometried bike. I have almost talked myself into it for my Saluki to mount 
> my baby seat on. But if it looks like the Cheviot on the product page then 
> that's a No for Me, Dawg.
>
> Thanks ahead of time!
> -J
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[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan K.
Justin, 

You're bike won't look like that Cheviot because those are different bars 
than the regular Boscomoose. There was an early run of the bars that were 
not built to the correct specs and these were referred to as "bad angle" 
Boscos. I know because I started a thread about it here, and then contacted 
Riv, and Dave relayed the above the story. At that time, they still had 
some of the bad angle bars, and I ordered those because I specifically 
wanted that downward angle on the grip area. I love my bad angle Boscomoose 
bars on my Appaloosa, but if you order some off the site, you'll be getting 
the "regular" ones that have a grip area that runs closer to parallel with 
the ground.

Here's the thread I started a while back because I was curious on why some 
of the bars looked different than the others:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/bad$20angle$20bosco%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/3fhrkyiTqw4/2GGYCGFJAgAJ

Jonathan 

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:35:30 PM UTC-6, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Hey folks-
> Looking for a pic of the BoscoMoose (58cm) on a Saluki/AHH/similarly 
> geometried bike. I have almost talked myself into it for my Saluki to mount 
> my baby seat on. But if it looks like the Cheviot on the product page then 
> that's a No for Me, Dawg.
>
> Thanks ahead of time!
> -J
>

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[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up 
slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens 
to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain 
length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that 
are generally very well suited to either flats/hills or onroad/off. No 
chain slop and very easy to use.

I've also been considering a fixed winter bike via the Paul fixed rear hub 
on an old MTB. Sounds delightfully ridiculous

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[RBW] pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Justin, Oakland
Hey folks-
Looking for a pic of the BoscoMoose (58cm) on a Saluki/AHH/similarly 
geometried bike. I have almost talked myself into it for my Saluki to mount 
my baby seat on. But if it looks like the Cheviot on the product page then 
that's a No for Me, Dawg.

Thanks ahead of time!
-J

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[RBW] Re: PSA Rivendell Atlantis Frame

2019-02-02 Thread dougP
Always good to have spares, just in case.  I've had my Atlantis for 16 
years & I'll post here first if it ever wears out.

dougP

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> Thank you to whoever bought this! I already own a 61cm Atlantis but this 
> was such a tempting deal I was considering buying another to have on 
> reserve. Or something.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
But you could do the same with a Sugino crank and the right rings, correct?
The OP said that this arrangement would work well, and simply that it
didn't require a WI chainring.

I'm tempted to do this myself (oh Gawd no, not another project ...) I
need (*need,
it tell you!*) a winter snow bike because we only get ridable snow about 1X
a year. And someone has a disposable old mountain bike to sell cheap ...
(Still, this would be cheaper than a second wheelset for the Matthews ...

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> I think I misread the original intent. You want to ride fixed on a
> vertical dropout utilizing a dingle cog. I stand by what I originally said,
> using the White Ind dingle chainring would make the most elegant and easy
> to use setup in conjunction with the Eccentric hub to accommodate for the
> vertical dropout. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work and again
> the only downside would be the choice of gearing as White only makes the
> chainrings in 38/35 or 34/31
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[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
I think I misread the original intent. You want to ride fixed on a vertical 
dropout utilizing a dingle cog. I stand by what I originally said, using 
the White Ind dingle chainring would make the most elegant and easy to use 
setup in conjunction with the Eccentric hub to accommodate for the vertical 
dropout. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work and again the only 
downside would be the choice of gearing as White only makes the chainrings 
in 38/35 or 34/31

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[RBW] Re: PSA Rivendell Atlantis Frame

2019-02-02 Thread William!
Thank you to whoever bought this! I already own a 61cm Atlantis but this was 
such a tempting deal I was considering buying another to have on reserve. Or 
something.

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[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Brian is correct. Surly stopped making the dinglecog. I ride a 1x2 on my 
Quickbeam, and on my Hunqabeam a 2x2 (via fix/fix flip flop), yielding a high, 
med, low.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Surly makes the Dingle cog... I have a 17/19 dingle paired with a white ind dos 
eno 17/19 on a flip/flop hub.  Surly may have since discontinued the dingle 
fixed cogs but they went up to 17/21 I think.  You also don’t necessarily need 
the WI crank... any double crank could achieve the same thing with properly 
chosen rings... you just need to also find the right chain line and bottom 
bracket spindle width.  Never used an ENO hub but had previously considered it 
before I picked up a proper single speed frame with track ends.

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[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
I highly recommend using the ENO in dinglespeed form, if possible. Does a 
fixed dingle cog exist?. I had this set up on a bike some years ago, 16/18 
freewheel in back and 38/35 double chainring. You need White Ind cranks 
too, but those are definitely worth it. This system was super easy to 
change out on a ride, I would use the larger gear for around town riding 
and then switch to the lower to tackle hills. No rear wheel removal 
necessary. You are forced into specific gearing, which may be a potential 
down side if you like to customize ratios. Of course, with horizontal 
dropouts you don't need the eccentric hub, and as long as there isn't more 
than a one or two tooth difference in gearing your brakes won't be an issue.

On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Backstory: Before I swapped the dropouts on my Hunqapillar to horizontal 
> I, and Grant, talked with White Ind. about using their eccentric hub for 
> fixed gear bikepacking. We were both told absolutely not, it will fail. 
>
> Update: Grant recently followed up with them and asked specifically what 
> would fail. Nothing in the hub, it turns out, they were concerned about 
> aluminum dropouts, despite knowing this is on a Rivendell, thus has to be 
> steel. Sigh. 
>
> The horizontal dropout on Boots ain’t happening, so I have questions about 
> the ENO hub for those who have experience with one (speculation doesn’t 
> help here, actual experience only please): 
>
> - What is the process for tightening the chain? 
> - What would that process look like with a dingle cog 2x2 set-up? I 
> presume I’d have to drop the rear wheel out, shift the chain, put the wheel 
> back, then tighten the chain. Keep in mind the bike is 85 lbs total and I 
> likely need to lay it down to change gears. 
>
> Anything else I should think about? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Derek Atkins
I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead of the 
59 Clem H I have. In the end, a couple hundred difference in what I might make 
between the two has me leaning more toward keeping the beautiful Joe and 
selling the Clem at a good price to someone who wants it. If someone here is 
still super interested in the Joe I might be willing to be talked out of it. 
But I think I’m the end with some 2.1 tires on the Joe I might be happy as a 
clam. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread Addisonwilhite
What size is your AR Craig?  I have a 98 model and have been curious about 
trying a 650 wheel on it. Various widths of 26 inch tires have truly worked 
well. 

Addison
Reno

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> I see an opening to post my '93 All Rounder again. It's my Trekendell, a Trek 
> Multitrack converted from 700c to 26". Riv content: Rivendell fork, Clem 
> rack, Riv trunk bag, fenders, safety triangle. I switch seasonally from RTP 
> to Thunder Burts. Here it is a couple weeks ago on the way in to work:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 2:28:37 AM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>> My '96 All Rounder is just that, a road bike with mountain bike clearances. 
>> And that's how Grant advertised them back then too. I've had a couple dozen 
>> bikes the last 2 decades but the AR has always been with me and it always 
>> will. I've run it with 26x1 1/4", 26x1.95's, 650Bx42/s and 47's (without 
>> fenders), and now running 26x2.3 RTP's. It's a plum cuz it handles them all 
>> with aplomb. You may quote me. 
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[RBW] Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread tc
Bigger clearances are certainly becoming the norm. Between the Atlantis and the 
Bubbe- mountain Mixte, I think those two bikes cover what most folks needs are, 
esp. if you swap out wheel sets. 

I like this article on the former, original Atlantis design, and how versatile 
it is. Smaller wheels/tires for brevets, larger for MTB trails ... in Alaska!

https://chasingmailboxes.com/2011/11/21/bikes-to-like-kevin-t-s-rivendell-atlantis/

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks, all. I, obviously in asking the question, suspected as much and hoped 
for more. It looks more and more like I shall embrace delighted contentment 
with the Hunqabeam for my riding, including the underbiking bits when they 
come. Considering it handles with aplumb 95% of my milage, it’s an excellent 
position to be in. Grin. Still haven’t given up on a fixed gear Boots, but the 
options for proceeding are dwindling.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread lconley
The Eno basically has four positions, two for each chain length or cog size. 
For the short chain or large cog, the Eno is positioned forward and can be 
either up or down to adjust chain tension. For the long chain or small cog, the 
Eno is positioned rearward and again, can be positioned up or down to adjust 
the chain tension. I use the rear down position on my Eno because 1) it 
maximizes clearance at the brake bridge and I am using oversized tires and 2) I 
can use the bike weight to tension the chain by putting the bike upright on the 
tires while I tighten the the hub to the frame - the weight of the bike wants 
to rotate the eccentric rearward and that tensions the chain. The forward up 
position would do the same if I had the tire clearance. As others have pointed 
out, brake shoe adjustment would be a problem. The only way I see to get two 
speeds without adjusting the brake shoes is to use two cogs and two chainrings 
so that the eccentric ended up in close to the same position for the two 
combinations. 

Laing
Coco, FL

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[RBW] Re: Favorite grips for bar end shifters?

2019-02-02 Thread eddietheflay
Jones sells bars at 660 and 710 mm. Ergons are just fine on the 660 bars 
when you put separate levers and shifters in front of the grips. But I 
think you're correct in the case of the longer bars.

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 8:20:44 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Went for a 30 mile ride today on the Albatross bars, and somewhere between 
> 20 and 25 miles I found myself wishing for some part of the grip with more 
> padding.  Right now the main grip area is just a wrap of Neubaum's tape and 
> the rest is bare metal.  I didn't have great luck with the last cork grips 
> I tried, but maybe the new ones are better.  I just put something like the 
> Dutch Paddle grips on my son's bike and was about to get some for me but 
> I'm not sure how to make them work with bar ends.  I'm tempted to try the 
> silicone ones that Riv sells, but I'd love to hear about other solutions.
>

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Re: [RBW] Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
I think in the current Riv design philosophy, as they increase tire
clearance, they increase the frame toughness. So don't hold your breath for
a Roadini with 2" tire clearance.

Eric

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> I mean this as a legitimate question. I would guess that there is a
> logical answer that I just don’t know. So...
> Why don’t all rivendells have clearances for 2.25 or larger tires? I’m
> aware this would mean canti or v brakes on all the models. I’d buy a
> Cheviot this second if they could go 50mm+ easily...heck I’d buy a Sam or
> homer as well. I’d imagine with those clearances that someone else could do
> 38 or whatever smaller size they wanted to and that’d be fine. What would
> be lost with bigger clearances on all the models?
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