Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

[Steve Palincsar]

On 4/15/19 11:03 PM, Drw wrote:

This is not about berthound saddles, but I’m a little frustrated, so excuse the 
venting.



You're right, it's not.  And adding it to this discussion does a 
disservice to everyone.  You should start a new discussion about Selle 
an Atomica saddles.  That way, people interested in them will be able to 
find your comments, and you won't run the risk of confusing people who 
noting the subject line may think you're speaking about Berthoud saddles.




  I’ve ridden brooks for years. They were all vaguely comfortable and 
exceedingly durable. After reading the bikepacking.com reviews of the new 
improved selle anatomica, I bit the bullet , hoping for better than decently 
comfortable and lighter weight. What arrived was an incredibly loose saddle 
that needed 10 + full turns of tensioning and still feels loose. An instruction 
sheet that claims they have the longest rails in the business, oh but you can’t 
use the full length of them or they might break..and A claim of high 
durability, oh but make sure you get your butt off the saddle on every bump or 
it might break. Also I ordered their heaviest duty model. How is this so hard 
to get right?


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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[ascpgh]

Like brake lever pull, BB width, headset diameter, rear hub OLD. Standards 
seem to exist for others to deviate from.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 5:03:29 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> So because there is a different standard for bottom bracket threading to 
> British, British BB threading is no longer a standard?
>
> If you want to use the Herse brakes, distance between posts should be: 62 
> - 84 mm.  According to discussions I've seen on the forums, back in the 
> heyday of cantilever brakes on MTBs Shimano decreed that posts would be 
> 80mm apart.  Evidently in the past (perhaps even distant past) that spacing 
> had been 60.  The modern standard is 80mm, and it's said all the brakes 
> designed in the last 25 years are built for that.
> On 4/15/19 4:52 PM, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Sorry Steve, no standard. A standard to be a standard must be universal, 
> independent of brands of parts, frame or builder. British BB threading, 
> that's a standard. 
>
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 3:41:21 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>> There is a standard, it's just that not everybody has followed it.   Most 
>> cantilever brakes try to incorporate a lot of adjustability to compensate 
>> for that.  Since the Herse brake is primarily intended for custom bikes, 
>> the expectation is the builder will adhere to the published 
>> specifications.  In that context, it's a reasonable expectation.  Obviously 
>> that doesn't work really well for retrofitting onto an existing frame made 
>> with any old whimsical canti post spacing.  However, it's not too likely 
>> you'd be putting brakes that cost that much on such a frame in the first 
>> place.
>> On 4/15/19 3:21 PM, Garth wrote:
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Pancake]

Wow, it's wild how they sorted out getting "Shirmego" to work! 

I'm frustrated that it seems a standard Shimano triple shifter probably 
won't work with the Sugino XD2 crankset. So the options are:
(1) get a shimano crankset without the great low range of a the Sugino XD2
(2) Shirmego that allows the good trim adjustments of Campy and alternate 
cable routing of the Campy brifters
(3) Or ... ??? any other suggestions? Any chance the Shimano brifters, like 
the 105, would just work nicely with the Sugino XD2?

Thanks for the really helpful and thought out suggestions so far everyone!

Abe

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 4:55:25 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
>
> You need to use the alternate cable routing, clamping the cable on the 
> opposite side of the pinch bolt to do Campy 10 to Shimano 9
>
> Here's a nicely written guide that helped me when I set mine up
>
> https://www.cxmagazine.com/shimano-campagnolo-ergopower-compatibility
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 4:30:39 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> Don't you need Campagnolo 11 Ergo to index right with Shimano 9?
>>
>>
>> On 4/15/19 7:27 PM, Kurt Manley wrote:
>>
>> I'd recommend Campy 10 speed shifters set up "Shirmego" style. They will 
>> work good with noodles since they are shorter and the front shifter has 
>> very good trim adjustment which is needed when you're trying to run 
>> chainrings that don't match what Shimano designed into their triple setup. 
>> I've been running a setup like that for years and it works great. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, Pancake wrote: 
>>>
>>> My friend got a Sam Hillborne and wants to swap over to brifters (since 
>>> he enjoyed them so much on the last bike he rode). What 3x9 brifters would 
>>> you recommend? 
>>>
>>> Current setup: 
>>> 62cm Sam 
>>> 44cm Noodle handlebars 
>>> Tektro R559 brakes 
>>> 3x9 gearing (Sugino triple 24/36/46 and Shimano cassette 11–34t) 
>>>
>>> What 3x9 compatible brifters do you recommend? 
>>>
>>> Alternately, should he switch everything to a 2x10 or 2x11 drivetrain 
>>> and compatible brifters? Personally I only like friction with a triple 
>>> setup, so switching to 2x indexed seems like a reasonable option. 
>>>
>>> Yes: I already tried convincing him to stick with bar ends, but he’s not 
>>> budging. 
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Steve Palincsar]

And there is a significant difference between /formal standards/ (a 
specification that has been approved by a standards setting 
organization) and /de facto/ /standard/s (a specification (or protocol 
or technology) that has achieved widespread use and acceptance – often 
without being approved by any standards organization or receiving such 
approval only after it already has achieved widespread use).  Garth is 
clearly thinking of formal standards, and seems to be dismissing de 
facto standards entirely -- when in fact much of what we consider to be 
"standard" is actually a de facto rather than de jure formal standard.


On 4/16/19 9:10 AM, ascpgh wrote:
Like brake lever pull, BB width, headset diameter, rear hub OLD. 
Standards seem to exist for others to deviate from.


Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 5:03:29 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

So because there is a different standard for bottom bracket
threading to British, British BB threading is no longer a standard?

If you want to use the Herse brakes, distance between posts should
be: 62 - 84 mm. According to discussions I've seen on the forums,
back in the heyday of cantilever brakes on MTBs Shimano decreed
that posts would be 80mm apart.  Evidently in the past (perhaps
even distant past) that spacing had been 60.  The modern standard
is 80mm, and it's said all the brakes designed in the last 25
years are built for that.

On 4/15/19 4:52 PM, Garth wrote:


Sorry Steve, no standard. A standard to be a standard must be
universal, independent of brands of parts, frame or builder.
British BB threading, that's a standard.


On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 3:41:21 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar
wrote:

There is a standard, it's just that not everybody has
followed it. Most cantilever brakes try to incorporate a lot
of adjustability to compensate for that. Since the Herse
brake is primarily intended for custom bikes, the expectation
is the builder will adhere to the published specifications. 
In that context, it's a reasonable expectation.  Obviously
that doesn't work really well for retrofitting onto an
existing frame made with any old whimsical canti post
spacing.  However, it's not too likely you'd be putting
brakes that cost that much on such a frame in the first place.

On 4/15/19 3:21 PM, Garth wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Joe Bernard]

As I said, you might get lucky. Matching 105 brifters to the 105 fd means the 
shifter-to-derailer action will be correct, so that's a start. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Jonathan K.]

Another option would be asymmetric shifting. Brifter for the rear, bar end 
for the front. He'd have indexed for the cassette, which is where most of 
the shifting happens anyway, and you'd get the trimming and compatibility 
of friction up front.


On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:48:38 AM UTC-5, Pancake wrote:
>
> Wow, it's wild how they sorted out getting "Shirmego" to work! 
>
> I'm frustrated that it seems a standard Shimano triple shifter probably 
> won't work with the Sugino XD2 crankset. So the options are:
> (1) get a shimano crankset without the great low range of a the Sugino XD2
> (2) Shirmego that allows the good trim adjustments of Campy and alternate 
> cable routing of the Campy brifters
> (3) Or ... ??? any other suggestions? Any chance the Shimano brifters, 
> like the 105, would just work nicely with the Sugino XD2?
>
> Thanks for the really helpful and thought out suggestions so far everyone!
>
> Abe
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 4:55:25 PM UTC-7, Kurt Manley wrote:
>>
>> You need to use the alternate cable routing, clamping the cable on the 
>> opposite side of the pinch bolt to do Campy 10 to Shimano 9
>>
>> Here's a nicely written guide that helped me when I set mine up
>>
>> https://www.cxmagazine.com/shimano-campagnolo-ergopower-compatibility
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 4:30:39 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't you need Campagnolo 11 Ergo to index right with Shimano 9?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/15/19 7:27 PM, Kurt Manley wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd recommend Campy 10 speed shifters set up "Shirmego" style. They will 
>>> work good with noodles since they are shorter and the front shifter has 
>>> very good trim adjustment which is needed when you're trying to run 
>>> chainrings that don't match what Shimano designed into their triple setup. 
>>> I've been running a setup like that for years and it works great. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, Pancake wrote: 

 My friend got a Sam Hillborne and wants to swap over to brifters (since 
 he enjoyed them so much on the last bike he rode). What 3x9 brifters would 
 you recommend? 

 Current setup: 
 62cm Sam 
 44cm Noodle handlebars 
 Tektro R559 brakes 
 3x9 gearing (Sugino triple 24/36/46 and Shimano cassette 11–34t) 

 What 3x9 compatible brifters do you recommend? 

 Alternately, should he switch everything to a 2x10 or 2x11 drivetrain 
 and compatible brifters? Personally I only like friction with a triple 
 setup, so switching to 2x indexed seems like a reasonable option. 

 Yes: I already tried convincing him to stick with bar ends, but he’s 
 not budging. 
>>>
>>>
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>>> Alexandria, Virginia 
>>> USA
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

[Friend]

I have Blackburns make of this.  I can attest that the dangling straps are 
not ideal and typing them up when you aren't carrying a bottle is a hassle. 
 However, I can strap in things that aren't a nalgene such as a rolled up 
jacket, small dry bag, etc.  When the Nalgene is in it, it doesn't budge.


On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:47:58 PM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> How often do you plan to get the bottle out? I’ve found the king cage to 
> be extremely durable, with the only real downside being how cumbersome it 
> is to remove and reattach the bottle. I use mine to hold the very last 
> reserves of water, a sleeping bag, whiskey, etc...things I’ll only access 
> once a trip. I’d use a VO Mojave or widefoot for regularly accessed 
> bottleage. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Pancake]

I like that idea Jonathan, but my friend says his knees hit the bar ends when 
they’re in the extended back position (low gear for the front/left, high bear 
on the rear/right). 

As I write that it occurs to me that perhaps wider bars are a cheaper and 
possibly better solution. But the friend is after brifters so I’ll still try to 
sort it. Maybe just throwing a used pair of brifters on there and seeing if 
they’ll work is the best I can do for now, but I’m still looking for a known 
solution.

Great ideas everyone, please keep ‘em coming!  

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[RBW] Re: Rebuilding MKS Touring Pedals

[Robert Liebermann]

I find rebuilding MKS Sylvans to be one of their best 'features'. Since 
they always come with too little grease it's a *pleasant ceremony to add 
grease and adjust new Sylvans*, and it's pretty easy in my experience. 

As for keeping the ball bearings herded, I hold the pedal with the 
'bearings of interest' side up, and as I unscrew the cone I keep pressure 
on the bottom ones. I can't remember if there's room for a wayward ball to 
slip between the cone and spindle, but it's never been a problem. I loosen 
the cone just enough to push globs of grease into the crank side, then 
tighten the cone enough to flip pedal the other way up & put a glob of 
grease into the outer bearings. 

Tightening is pretty easy too, once you get a feel for how loose the cone 
ought to be before tightening the locknut. I usually spin the spindle to 
'tighten' the cone, then back off just the right amount, then tighten the 
locknut.

Upon reassembly I get a nice smooth spin. The little bit of grease oozing 
out from the crank end seal tells me that those pedals have been properly 
greased and are ready to go.

MKS Sylvans are my favourite and are on most of my bikes. I just *wish 
they'd stop 'fancifying' them by more polish and make the $#@! spindles out 
of much stronger steel *(cro-mo?), because they bend *way *too easy! 

As a bonus, here's some '*beausage*' photos of my well-worn Sylvans after 4 
tours showing how satisfyingly they wear (note flattened centre areas):




http://rjl.us/velo/2005LHTpix-6.htm

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Joe Bernard]

There's another way you can go that would solve all the issues: Microshift 
Advent 1x for drops. It's relatively cheap, but you'll need the whole kit: Wide 
range 9-speed cassette, right brifter and matching left lever, rear derailleur 
(use current chain). Then you ditch the big and granny rings for the cranks and 
maybe add a chainguard in the big position..Riv sells them. 

So now your buddy has a full 9-speed brifter system with enough gears to ignore 
front shifting altogether. Easy! I'm adding the flatbar version to my Atlantis 
as soon as the parts arrive. 

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:25:00 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I got the h2 purchased 4 days ago direct from sell anatomica. The “2” 
> versions were supposed to be the fixed versions. I can’t speak to previous 
> iterations, since I never owned one, but I’m definitely gonna complain 
> about this thing. Beyond it being super droopy (butt on seatpost  during 
> 1st 5 mile ride, after extreme retensioning out of the box) it just reeks 
> of low quality everywhere. A 80$ brooks might weigh a bit more, but it 
> costs half the price and will likely last 15x longer.


I got a Selle Anatomica saddle years ago when they were first released to 
try, and it didn't really work for me (its sides were too wide for my fat 
thighs). However, I was under the impression that these are unlike Brooks 
or Berthoud saddles in that one *should* have the leather slung like a 
hammock. Thus, the leather being a bit loose and droopy is expected. If 
you've seen the original intro videos of the underside of the Selle 
Anatomica saddle when it was ridden, the swaying/flexing leather top 
clearly demonstrated this characteristic. Nevertheless, your butt shouldn't 
contact the seatpost mast at all, and especially after tensioning. Have you 
confirmed that you got the right saddle for your weight?

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

[Tom Horton]

this is about berthoud saddles. for what it's worth, I got one from James a 
couple years back (hi James) and have ridden it maybe a thousand miles, and 
no problems, great comfortable saddle. I weigh about 190 pounds. I have 
used only Obenaufs on it, have tensioned it slightly.  maybe there is 
something to that Proofide causing a problem.  I was surprised how fast 
mine went from stiff to broken in...but no sign it's breaking down.  tom h

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 8:24:45 AM UTC-4, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> I really like Berthoud saddles.  The Mente to me is the best saddle for 
> very upright riding positions.  Mainly because I don't have to ride with 
> the nose super high like I do with the Brooks.  I also like the Aspin for 
> bikes with drop bars.  I've been wondering, though, what the 
> Soulor/Galibier is like.  It's a narrower, racier saddle.  Does anyone here 
> have any experience with this saddle?  Is it too narrow?  Noticeably less 
> comfortable than the Aspin?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddles

[Drew Henson]

Just to add my experience, I have two berthoud aspins that I really like. 
One is almost a year old and one is only about 3 months in. The year old 
one is very very comfortable. I had a brooks b17 for about 8 years before 
that and it was fine. Plenty comfortable but eventually i couldn't get the 
tension where i wanted it.  

Before I splurged for the second berthoud I tried a selle anatomica and it 
took me one ride to figure out it wasn't for me. Not only is it way too 
"soft", but the relatively flat shape caused the sharp edges to rub against 
my legs. I also didn't care for the leather finishing.

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

VO Mojave has served me well though only with light use... fits a variety of 
32oz insulated bottles though tolerances were different between kleen kanteen, 
hydro flask, etc. so a few rattled much more than I’d have liked.  I just 
wrapped the narrowest bottles with extra cloth rim or handlebar tape, duct tape 
or anything else I could find to shim and eliminate rattling.  I believe some 
bottles could be found with the same diameter but taller with even greater 
capacity but I have no need for them right now.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Aye, bottle width looks to be an issue. Diameter of the Kleen Kanteens:
40oz: 3.6" (should fit well on the downtube brazons)
64oz: 4.3" (Too big for the Downtube brazons, but may work with the strapon 
mounts on the seattube.)

Ideas for tall bottles (preferably not plastic) that are more the 3.6" diameter 
range? I'd like to be able to carry two-three 64oz ish sized bottles, and they 
can but up to 12" tall or so.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[aeroperf]

I'm running the Sugino 26/36/46 crank with a Sora FD3030 front derailleur 
on my Sam.  The Shimano R3030 and R3000 brifters work fine.

I think you'd miss that lower gear if you went to a double.


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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

[ted]

DP,
I fear you may be looking for unobtainium.
I think all the 64oz containers out there are too large diameter for even 
oversized bottle cages like the VO Mojave. Largest one I have used is the 
hydroflask 40oz widemouth insulated bottle, which works great with the VO cage 
on the seat tube of my 56 AHH.
For 64oz I think you’ll need the more general stuff holding strap stuff on sort 
of “cages”
Have you considered water bags like the dromedary?

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

[Tim Baldwin]

I use the VO Mojave cage with a 40 oz. Kleen Kanteen on a daily basis. 
Works great. Jandd stem bags also fit 40 oz bottles perfectly and have some 
insulation. I've used the 64 oz. bottles with a King cage but only on 
tours. The straps take too much fiddling for easy on/off. I liked the idea 
of big 64 oz bottles but in practice I like the 40 oz ones much better. You 
could put two by the stem, one on the down tube, one on seat tube and one 
under the down tube. That's 200 oz of water! I'm thinking of doing 
something along these lines for my next trip.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 12:32:38 PM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> DP, 
> I fear you may be looking for unobtainium. 
> I think all the 64oz containers out there are too large diameter for even 
> oversized bottle cages like the VO Mojave. Largest one I have used is the 
> hydroflask 40oz widemouth insulated bottle, which works great with the VO 
> cage on the seat tube of my 56 AHH. 
> For 64oz I think you’ll need the more general stuff holding strap stuff on 
> sort of “cages” 
> Have you considered water bags like the dromedary? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, Ted and Drw. The clearance issue is from the cranks (I think they are 
raising the brazons on the production run), not the cage (the Many Things cage 
has no width issues).  Drw, thank you for the offer. I'll stick with my Nitto 
rear rack and panniers, and figure out what works with the many Things cage(s) 
and aux. mounts.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Ash]

Initially when I built up my first Rivendell 2 yrs ago I used Cantis.  Went 
through, I think, 4 pairs, out of curiosity how they differ - VO Zeste, 
CR-710, Avid Shorty Ultimate and one other I can't remember.

I was most impressed with the Avid in terms of performance and design (I'm 
not talking about the aesthetics).  VO Zeste was quite good as well. 
 Somehow the Zeste opened wider (the brake shoes didn't hit the fork 
blades), hence it was very convenient to remove wheels that had 2.00" tires 
on. 
  
Eventually I switched to v-brakes.  This was NOT for performance reasons. 
 I have OCD tendencies.  Found myself constantly fiddling with the brakes. 
 There's not much to tweak with in v-brakes.

I think cantis look cooler and the modulation they offer is actually 
useful.  I do not like the 'grabbiness' of v-brakes.  One day I think I'll 
go back to cantis. 



On Sunday, 14 April 2019 17:00:01 UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about getting canti posts brazed onto my sidepull Sam 
> Hillborne to fit a wider tire / make wide tire installation easier. Canti 
> brakes would be replacing Paul Racers.
>
> If I go this route, what are the best options out there? I figure top of 
> the line is Paul, but what's a more affordable brake? I see a lot of 
> chatter around Shimano CX70, but hear they're discontinued. Is there a 
> comparable option available now, or does it make sense to hunt down a used 
> set of CX70s? If I splurge on Neo Retros, am I gaining anything 
> functionally over other options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Erik, Philly
>

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

[ted]

Re clearing cranks:
The Mojave cage has a very long mounting rail with the bottom hole close to the 
bottom of the cage. Might allow clearing the crank even with a lower than 
normal braze on placement.

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[RBW] Re: Big Bottle and Cage Recommendations

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, the Mojave and any 40 oz option clears just fine.

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[RBW] New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Nice, another black wheels/racks Atlantis! I did the 2-speed thing for a while, 
it's so simple and fun. Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[tc]

Well, that bike could take you there and back again, if ever one could.  
Looks bombproof, but comfy.  Nice!

Congrats,
Tom

PS.  Don't think this will be your only Riv.  Resisting is futile.  You'll 
be poor, but in a happy kinda way.

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[RBW] PSA: Big (66cm) Quickbeam on eBay

[Matt Rhodes]

HERE 
.
 
Glad it's way too big for me, or I'd snap it up!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[ted]

Friction fd shifter on the down tube. I used that with campy ergo for a while 
and liked it fine. I think I read Mark A. uses a dt front shifter for cross so 
the bar end doesn’t get in his face during run ups with the bike shouldered.

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[RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Pancake]

Thanks Aeropref, that’s just what I needed to know. Could you tell me which 
front derailleur you’re using with that setup?

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[RBW] Re: Comments on 1x12'd MIT Atlanti Or Other Riv's?

[tc]

Adam, it's been a couple of months - would really like to know how this is 
working out for you.  Any additional hints, tips, suggestions, regrets?

Thanks!
Tom

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1:06:01 AM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> hi bill, sunrace makes the 11-50 twelve speed cassette that fits on a 
> standard 10/11s sram/shimano freehub body. this is what i have. you can 
> find the mini-group on ebay for just under $300 for the shifter, derailer, 
> chain, & sunrace cassette package. i try not to buy new bicycle components 
> from ebay, but i caved for this deal. this is the cheapest i could find it: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sram-GX-Eagle-Group-SunRace-11-50-Cassette-12-Speed-Kit-Trigger-Derailleur-Chain/291089084796?hash=item43c642f17c:g:Uo8AAOSwOhda82Bq:rk:3:pf:0
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Collin A]

Looks like a bomber commuter! And isn't it funny that even though you've 
had the bike for about a week you're already going through iterations and 
tinkering? It's probably my favorite part about Rivs, second only to the 
ride.

Enjoy the new bike and ride the heck out of it!

Collin

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 11:24:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
> The frame arrived last Monday, I finished the build on Friday, and added 
> the racks on Saturday. This is my first Riv after years of wanting one. I 
> wasn't sure if the ride would live up to the hype but I'm loving it so far. 
> So stable and yet feels quick. After seeing Will's 2 speed setup I really 
> wanted to try it out. I'm in Chicago so it's flat but we do get some good 
> headwinds. So far I'm really digging it.
>
> The picture is after my first commute yesterday. I'll try and stop on the 
> way home today and get some outdoor pics. I think I'm going to take off the 
> rear rack and get one of the new Bag Boy saddle bags. I think that with the 
> medium basket bag will work great for commuting. I'll also get a lighter 
> front rack. Right now the bike is a bit heavy to carry up/down stairs so it 
> would be nice to lighten it up a bit. Don't really feel the weight riding 
> though. I got the water bottle cage behind the seat tube now, but I talked 
> to a guy at my shop who's into making bags and we talked about doing one 
> between rear tire and seat tube. Seems a perfect use for the space. I still 
> need to figure out fenders. Not enough room under the fork crown with these 
> Big Ben Plus tires but I really like the ride and flat proofness of them. 
> I'll probably end up splitting the front fender so I can continue using the 
> nice fat tires.
>
> I ride 10 miles each way to work and I'm enjoying the ride more than ever. 
> I had the same tires and Bosco bars on a Troll before this but the Atlantis 
> feels like riding on a cloud compared to my previous setup. The Deore 
> v-brakes feel better than the BB7 discs, which was a pleasant surprise. 
> Overall, I'm very happy with this bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Bill Lindsay]

APPROVE!

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 11:24:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
> The frame arrived last Monday, I finished the build on Friday, and added 
> the racks on Saturday. This is my first Riv after years of wanting one. I 
> wasn't sure if the ride would live up to the hype but I'm loving it so far. 
> So stable and yet feels quick. After seeing Will's 2 speed setup I really 
> wanted to try it out. I'm in Chicago so it's flat but we do get some good 
> headwinds. So far I'm really digging it.
>
> The picture is after my first commute yesterday. I'll try and stop on the 
> way home today and get some outdoor pics. I think I'm going to take off the 
> rear rack and get one of the new Bag Boy saddle bags. I think that with the 
> medium basket bag will work great for commuting. I'll also get a lighter 
> front rack. Right now the bike is a bit heavy to carry up/down stairs so it 
> would be nice to lighten it up a bit. Don't really feel the weight riding 
> though. I got the water bottle cage behind the seat tube now, but I talked 
> to a guy at my shop who's into making bags and we talked about doing one 
> between rear tire and seat tube. Seems a perfect use for the space. I still 
> need to figure out fenders. Not enough room under the fork crown with these 
> Big Ben Plus tires but I really like the ride and flat proofness of them. 
> I'll probably end up splitting the front fender so I can continue using the 
> nice fat tires.
>
> I ride 10 miles each way to work and I'm enjoying the ride more than ever. 
> I had the same tires and Bosco bars on a Troll before this but the Atlantis 
> feels like riding on a cloud compared to my previous setup. The Deore 
> v-brakes feel better than the BB7 discs, which was a pleasant surprise. 
> Overall, I'm very happy with this bike.
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Tim Baldwin]

Tom, I was planning on keeping the Troll and putting 2.8s on for winter 
riding but that Gus is tempting. Luckily not owning a car anymore helps in 
the money department.

Collin, I've long been a bike tinkerer. So much so that my LBS is now 
offering me fill in shifts. The ride is definitely top rate.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 2:50:24 PM UTC-5, Collin A wrote:
>
> Looks like a bomber commuter! And isn't it funny that even though you've 
> had the bike for about a week you're already going through iterations and 
> tinkering? It's probably my favorite part about Rivs, second only to the 
> ride.
>
> Enjoy the new bike and ride the heck out of it!
>
> Collin
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 11:24:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> The frame arrived last Monday, I finished the build on Friday, and added 
>> the racks on Saturday. This is my first Riv after years of wanting one. I 
>> wasn't sure if the ride would live up to the hype but I'm loving it so far. 
>> So stable and yet feels quick. After seeing Will's 2 speed setup I really 
>> wanted to try it out. I'm in Chicago so it's flat but we do get some good 
>> headwinds. So far I'm really digging it.
>>
>> The picture is after my first commute yesterday. I'll try and stop on the 
>> way home today and get some outdoor pics. I think I'm going to take off the 
>> rear rack and get one of the new Bag Boy saddle bags. I think that with the 
>> medium basket bag will work great for commuting. I'll also get a lighter 
>> front rack. Right now the bike is a bit heavy to carry up/down stairs so it 
>> would be nice to lighten it up a bit. Don't really feel the weight riding 
>> though. I got the water bottle cage behind the seat tube now, but I talked 
>> to a guy at my shop who's into making bags and we talked about doing one 
>> between rear tire and seat tube. Seems a perfect use for the space. I still 
>> need to figure out fenders. Not enough room under the fork crown with these 
>> Big Ben Plus tires but I really like the ride and flat proofness of them. 
>> I'll probably end up splitting the front fender so I can continue using the 
>> nice fat tires.
>>
>> I ride 10 miles each way to work and I'm enjoying the ride more than 
>> ever. I had the same tires and Bosco bars on a Troll before this but the 
>> Atlantis feels like riding on a cloud compared to my previous setup. The 
>> Deore v-brakes feel better than the BB7 discs, which was a pleasant 
>> surprise. Overall, I'm very happy with this bike.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Big (66cm) Quickbeam on eBay

[David B]

Oh man! Any one here get this? I would've had it been available.
David

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-5, Matt Rhodes wrote:
>
> HERE 
> .
>  
> Glad it's way too big for me, or I'd snap it up!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Ed Fausto]

Very nice bulid Tim!
What is your pbh and the distance between the center of the crank to the top of 
your saddle?
Edgar

> On 17 Apr 2019, at 4:05 AM, Tim Baldwin  wrote:
> 
> Tom, I was planning on keeping the Troll and putting 2.8s on for winter 
> riding but that Gus is tempting. Luckily not owning a car anymore helps in 
> the money department.
> 
> Collin, I've long been a bike tinkerer. So much so that my LBS is now 
> offering me fill in shifts. The ride is definitely top rate.
> 
>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 2:50:24 PM UTC-5, Collin A wrote:
>> Looks like a bomber commuter! And isn't it funny that even though you've had 
>> the bike for about a week you're already going through iterations and 
>> tinkering? It's probably my favorite part about Rivs, second only to the 
>> ride.
>> 
>> Enjoy the new bike and ride the heck out of it!
>> 
>> Collin
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 11:24:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>> The frame arrived last Monday, I finished the build on Friday, and added 
>>> the racks on Saturday. This is my first Riv after years of wanting one. I 
>>> wasn't sure if the ride would live up to the hype but I'm loving it so far. 
>>> So stable and yet feels quick. After seeing Will's 2 speed setup I really 
>>> wanted to try it out. I'm in Chicago so it's flat but we do get some good 
>>> headwinds. So far I'm really digging it.
>>> 
>>> The picture is after my first commute yesterday. I'll try and stop on the 
>>> way home today and get some outdoor pics. I think I'm going to take off the 
>>> rear rack and get one of the new Bag Boy saddle bags. I think that with the 
>>> medium basket bag will work great for commuting. I'll also get a lighter 
>>> front rack. Right now the bike is a bit heavy to carry up/down stairs so it 
>>> would be nice to lighten it up a bit. Don't really feel the weight riding 
>>> though. I got the water bottle cage behind the seat tube now, but I talked 
>>> to a guy at my shop who's into making bags and we talked about doing one 
>>> between rear tire and seat tube. Seems a perfect use for the space. I still 
>>> need to figure out fenders. Not enough room under the fork crown with these 
>>> Big Ben Plus tires but I really like the ride and flat proofness of them. 
>>> I'll probably end up splitting the front fender so I can continue using the 
>>> nice fat tires.
>>> 
>>> I ride 10 miles each way to work and I'm enjoying the ride more than ever. 
>>> I had the same tires and Bosco bars on a Troll before this but the Atlantis 
>>> feels like riding on a cloud compared to my previous setup. The Deore 
>>> v-brakes feel better than the BB7 discs, which was a pleasant surprise. 
>>> Overall, I'm very happy with this bike.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Comments on 1x12'd MIT Atlanti Or Other Riv's?

[Adam Leibow]

Tom, the 12s GX eagle setup is great. The shifts are virtually 
instantaneous and the group feels very reliable, shifting wise. Despite not 
adding a narrow-wide/1x specific chainring yet, there have been no problems 
using the Silver chainring. This being said I'll probably swap it to a 
narrow wide chainring soon, maybe add a pop of color. do recommend

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 12:21:29 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> Adam, it's been a couple of months - would really like to know how this is 
> working out for you.  Any additional hints, tips, suggestions, regrets?
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1:06:01 AM UTC-5, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>
>> hi bill, sunrace makes the 11-50 twelve speed cassette that fits on a 
>> standard 10/11s sram/shimano freehub body. this is what i have. you can 
>> find the mini-group on ebay for just under $300 for the shifter, derailer, 
>> chain, & sunrace cassette package. i try not to buy new bicycle components 
>> from ebay, but i caved for this deal. this is the cheapest i could find it: 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sram-GX-Eagle-Group-SunRace-11-50-Cassette-12-Speed-Kit-Trigger-Derailleur-Chain/291089084796?hash=item43c642f17c:g:Uo8AAOSwOhda82Bq:rk:3:pf:0
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Front Ortlieb Panniers, North St. Bags Pittock Travel Pouches, Trangia Alcohol Stove

[Michael Ullmer]

Stove is gone, Price drops/updates:

*Ortlieb Panniers - $80 shipped*
--I also learned from another lister that the red one is a front roller in 
"Cordura Plus" fabric and the black one is a sport packer classic. I also 
have a full set (4) of size 8 clips for these panniers.

*Pittock Travel Pouches AND Swift Industries Wanderlust Packer Glacier 
Large - $40 shipped CONUS*
--I'm adding another bag that I don't need to sell, a Swift Industries 
Wanderlust size large bag in Glacier color. I can take a pic if you'd like, 
but it's brand new and same as this  
one but in a bright 
blue/white (they call it glacier) color. Take all three bags for $40.

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 3:45:26 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
> Bump. Need to move these along for my next project, so open to offers.
>
> On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 6:31:34 AM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Cross post from i-BOB: 
>>
>> 1) Mismatched pair of front Ortlieb Panniers - $85 shipped CONUS
>> --I picked these up at a swap and held on to them thinking that if my 
>> partner and I ever attempted a long-distance tour these would be helpful. 
>> Now we're well into parenthood and I don't see that tour happening anytime 
>> soon. I don't know the exact difference between the two in terms of 
>> capacity, but they both have generally the same attachment system. The red 
>> one is a straight roll-top with thinner material and the black has a 
>> drawstring cinch/cover, an inside organizer and generally heavier material.
>>
>> 2) North St. Pittock Travel Pouches - $25 shipped CONUS
>> --I have far too many small organizer bags, these didn't make the cut. 
>> Sizes small and medium per North St. Website.
>>
>> 3) Trangia Alcohol Stove - $15 shipped CONUS
>> --I picked up a new titanium alcohol stove to replace this one. It's seen 
>> light use and comes with the three piece stand.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/4dSc7kbJKqG4paou5
>>
>> PM off-list
>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale: Brooks B-17 Narrow Honey

[Steve Butcher]

Since no inquiries about this saddle, I'll drop my price to $75.00 shipped 
CONUS.  Please DM me with questions.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 3:59:30 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hello forum,
>  I'm offering for sale my little to no used B17N in honey color.  It 
> has never been wet and always stored indoors.  I have applied Velo Orange 
> leather saddle treatment during the winter.  The saddle has only been used 
> on 1-2 short rides.  The rails have a little scuffing from the seatpost but 
> nothing significant.  I have never touched the adjusment screw.   I want 
> $85.00 for the saddle shipped to lower 48 CONUS.  Please DM me off list 
> with questions.
>
>
> [image: 20190402_151228.jpeg]
>
> [image: 20190402_151221.jpeg]
>
> [image: 20190402_151212.jpeg]
>  Steven
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[RBW] Clem Basket and MUSA Splats for sale.

[Steve Butcher]

Hi forum folks,

I have a very little used like new condition Clem front basket for sale.  
Also, I have a like new pair of MUSA Olive green Splats for sale.  I wear a 
size 10 shoe and they fit me okay.  I'd like $45.00 for the basket and 
$25.00 for the Splats both shipped in CONUS.  Please DM me with questions.  

Steve Butcher
Stockton, Missouri

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[RBW] FS: DirtDrop stem, cheap threadless and post

[Joe Bernard]

DD sold. 

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[RBW] Re: new bike week

[REC (Roberta)]

Congratulations and happy touring!  It's amazing how well this bike rides.

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
>
> This Appaloosa is finally essentially done and rolling.
> I received the frame new from Rivelo last month.  I believe it's the last 
> new 55 silver Appaloosa frameset around.  I was looking for awhile after 
> Riv sold out.
> I've been slowly building it up and dialing things in.  Many parts came 
> over from my 56 Hillborne 
> The big switc- up for me is going the Bosco route, and I'm still 
> determining if it's right for me.
>
> These are the 52cm Boscos, so the smallest onesalso they are mounted 
> on an old Nitto G282 stem I found in the parts box that has a 13mm 
> extension and I've got the short stem slammed pretty much..
> So, as far as Boscos go, these are both pretty far away and pretty 
> low...for Boscos.  But they really are long and tall.
> With such a long stem they don't fell all that different than Albatrosses 
> on say a 10cm stem, for me.
> I'm considering taking 1" off each end of the bars., but for now, I'll 
> continue to ride and get comfortable 
>
> The bike will be set up a real tourer that is happy to spend half the time 
> on trails.  It's just not clear if those bars will be the right choice for 
> those sorts of long trips.   We usually do a one or two bike tours every 
> summer ...with camping gear averaging between 40 and 60 miles per day for 
> about a week and a half.  I'm starting to plan a trip into Quebec for late 
> summer and this is machine to do that on.
>
> Curious if any other Appaloosa riders have done any extensive touring on 
> their bikes?
>
> Also, I've never had huge-ish tires before.  These are some new but unused 
> Vittoria Mezcal's (29x2.1)  in the supple-er 120tpi version from a few 
> years ago.  They aren't tubeless compatible and I found them very cheap on 
> 'bay.  There's someone blowing them out there.  They have a similar tread 
> to many tires such as Thunder Burts and others with a low center tread and 
> some raised blocks on the sides for cornering in dirt.  
>
> So far this thing is like a recliner sofa that rolls.  The tires are plush 
> and feel surprisingly good on pavement.  It's also oddly quicker than I 
> expected.   I'm not really a fast rider and this isn't really a fast bike 
> but it feels effortless to pick up speed.
>
> Thank you to John and Rivelo and Bryan at Utility Bicycle Works in 
> Kingston NY
>
> [image: IMG_1421.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_1424.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_1425.JPG]
>
>
> [image: IMG_1429.jpg]
>
>
> Parts are as follows
>
>
> FRAME 55 Appaloosa
> WHEELS Synergy/White Ind./Shimano Dynohub
> TIRES Vittoria Mezcal 29x2.1
> TUBES Q-Tubes Superlight
> FENDERS GB 700x60's powdered
> BOTTOM BRACKET INCLUDED 113mm
> CRANK Sugino XD2 (43/35/32)
> CHAINRINGS Silver 43, Silver 35, Sugino 24
> CHAIN 2 SRAM P971's
> CASSETTE 12-36 Shimano
> REAR DER Old LX long cage
> FRONT DER Old Camp. Mirage 
> SHIFTERS Dia-compe on Paul thumbs
> BRAKE LEVERS Paul Love
> BRAKES Paul Motolites
> HANDLEBARS
> 52cm Bosco
> HANDLEBARS 52cm Bosco
> STEM Old Nitto MT-37
> GRIPS Ritchey black
> POST Included
> SADDLE B17 - black
> FRONT RACK Nitto 27F
> REAR RACK Nitto R-14
> BOTTLE CAGES 1 Mojave, 1 King 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[REC (Roberta)]

It is an awesome bike.  My first ride on an Atlantis convinced me that a 
Rivendell bike was in my future.  I ended up with a Joe Appaloosa (less 
expensive two years ago), which is nowadays, nearly the same bike.  You're 
right, it rides amazingly and I don't notice the bike weight either when 
riding.  Enjoy the ride!

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 2:24:01 PM UTC-4, Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
> The frame arrived last Monday, I finished the build on Friday, and added 
> the racks on Saturday. This is my first Riv after years of wanting one. I 
> wasn't sure if the ride would live up to the hype but I'm loving it so far. 
> So stable and yet feels quick. After seeing Will's 2 speed setup I really 
> wanted to try it out. I'm in Chicago so it's flat but we do get some good 
> headwinds. So far I'm really digging it.
>
> The picture is after my first commute yesterday. I'll try and stop on the 
> way home today and get some outdoor pics. I think I'm going to take off the 
> rear rack and get one of the new Bag Boy saddle bags. I think that with the 
> medium basket bag will work great for commuting. I'll also get a lighter 
> front rack. Right now the bike is a bit heavy to carry up/down stairs so it 
> would be nice to lighten it up a bit. Don't really feel the weight riding 
> though. I got the water bottle cage behind the seat tube now, but I talked 
> to a guy at my shop who's into making bags and we talked about doing one 
> between rear tire and seat tube. Seems a perfect use for the space. I still 
> need to figure out fenders. Not enough room under the fork crown with these 
> Big Ben Plus tires but I really like the ride and flat proofness of them. 
> I'll probably end up splitting the front fender so I can continue using the 
> nice fat tires.
>
> I ride 10 miles each way to work and I'm enjoying the ride more than ever. 
> I had the same tires and Bosco bars on a Troll before this but the Atlantis 
> feels like riding on a cloud compared to my previous setup. The Deore 
> v-brakes feel better than the BB7 discs, which was a pleasant surprise. 
> Overall, I'm very happy with this bike.
>

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[RBW] New Bike Day! 50cm MIT Atlantis

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Every Atlantis should have a skateboard rack.
Enjoy it
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Big (66cm) Quickbeam on eBay

[Reid Echols]

Ugh, I would have too. 

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> Oh man! Any one here get this? I would've had it been available.
> David
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-5, Matt Rhodes wrote:
>>
>> HERE 
>> .
>>  
>> Glad it's way too big for me, or I'd snap it up!
>>
>

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[RBW] PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[REC (Roberta)]

I think this is too tall for me (83pbh).

https://longisland.craigslist.org/bik/d/southold-rivendell-atlantis/6868007521.html

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Chris L]

Wow!  If that guy will ship, that thing will probably be sold within the 
hour.  



On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:41:15 PM UTC-5, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> I think this is too tall for me (83pbh).
>
>
> https://longisland.craigslist.org/bik/d/southold-rivendell-atlantis/6868007521.html
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[REC (Roberta)]

Joe,

It's a great looking and great bike.  I'm surprised how much I like the 
black fenders--very understated.  One of the first bikes I tested was 
James's MUSA Atlantis and just LOVED it.  It was the bike to convince me to 
buy a Rivendell.  

Enjoy for  years!  And, should you ever want to get rid of it, years down 
the way, this is my size.  :)  I hope though that you'll retire with the 
bike.

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:13:49 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The blackout is complete. Origin8 stem (I wimped out on the V-O over fear 
> the length wouldn't work out after spending all that cash), Ritchey post, 
> Paul Chainkeeper and Jones grips. Next is a Microshift wide range 1x 
> drivetrain, but it'll look the same as this and I've posted enough photos. 
> Best bike I've ever owned! 
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: 
> > Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be 
> "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. 
> Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 🤦 
> > 
> > The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I 
> rode today (and most days) had plenty of range for up and flat, and I just 
> coasted at my normal coasting point on the descents. I used to "pedal 
> through" more on downhills and needed the big ring, but riding singlespeeds 
> killed that habit. If I need to go faster than the bike is rolling down the 
> hill, well..why do I need that?! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[REC (Roberta)]

I already sent him an email, but considering it most likely will be too big 
for me, I thought I'd share it with the group.  


On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 9:47:48 PM UTC-4, Chris L wrote:
>
> Wow!  If that guy will ship, that thing will probably be sold within the 
> hour.  
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 8:41:15 PM UTC-5, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>>
>> I think this is too tall for me (83pbh).
>>
>>
>> https://longisland.craigslist.org/bik/d/southold-rivendell-atlantis/6868007521.html
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Jonathan D.]

Let me know if he will ship. Amazing price. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[John McBurney]

Wow. What a beautiful bike at a crazy price. It would be a perfect fit.
Sigh.

John
Greenville SC

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:06 PM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Let me know if he will ship. Amazing price.
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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[REC (Roberta)]

I live within 3 hours driving distance, so I didn't ask him about shipping. 

I just sent him another note telling him I posted his bike here, asking if 
he would ship if needed.  When I hear back, I'll post his answer.  In the 
meantime, I suggest you contact him directly so no one here loses out.  I'm 
pretty sure it's too big for me.  I ride a current 51 Appaloosa or I'd ride 
a current 53 Atlantis.  His is a 58.

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 10:06:48 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> Let me know if he will ship. Amazing price. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Drw]

Ok count me in line

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Big (66cm) Quickbeam on eBay

[MCT]

I didn’t think that would last long. It was in great shape for a great price.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Roberta, I'll give you a call when I sell in 2025! 😁

The black fenders and racks were a surprise to me, too. It's a motif which has 
spread throughout the bike now, but I wouldn't have thought of it myself. James 
and Candice have excellent taste 👍

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Joe Bernard]

That's a crazy "sell it now I don't want to deal with it" price, which I've 
done before. I'll eat my hat if it's still there tomorrow night. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Bill Lindsay]

Those prices on the original invoice make me nostalgic.  I can't explain 
why they have two different line items for $65 bar-end shifters though.  
$130 is high for two individual shifters.  Maybe he got double charged and 
it was a mistake or maybe he really bought a second set of shifters just 
for fun.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:41:15 PM UTC-7, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> I think this is too tall for me (83pbh).
>
>
> https://longisland.craigslist.org/bik/d/southold-rivendell-atlantis/6868007521.html
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Ash]

Hiey Joe,

I've been enjoying following the evolution of your Atlantis.  Keep those 
pictures coming!

That loop bag is so perfect for nuts/candies/blueberries/snack bar/or any 
stuff one keeps reaching for on a cruise.



On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:13:49 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The blackout is complete. Origin8 stem (I wimped out on the V-O over fear 
> the length wouldn't work out after spending all that cash), Ritchey post, 
> Paul Chainkeeper and Jones grips. Next is a Microshift wide range 1x 
> drivetrain, but it'll look the same as this and I've posted enough photos. 
> Best bike I've ever owned! 
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: 
> > Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be 
> "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. 
> Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 🤦 
> > 
> > The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I 
> rode today (and most days) had plenty of range for up and flat, and I just 
> coasted at my normal coasting point on the descents. I used to "pedal 
> through" more on downhills and needed the big ring, but riding singlespeeds 
> killed that habit. If I need to go faster than the bike is rolling down the 
> hill, well..why do I need that?! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

I love the bag. I keep all the permanents - tools, patch kit, mini pump, tube - 
in the front Trunksack and use the Jones bag for phone, wallet, readers, keys 
and snacks. It's super handy, plus I love the bars.  

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[RBW] Re: 3x9 brifter recommendations? (Sam Hillborne 62cm, Tektro r559, noodles)

[Jim A]

Aeropref mentions front derailleur FD-3030 which is the same series as 
their shifters and is compatible. The Sora shifters you are writing about 
are compatible with your rear derailleur but not with your front derailleur 
(cable actuation ratio was changed).

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 12:10:54 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
>
> Thanks Aeropref, that’s just what I needed to know. Could you tell me 
> which front derailleur you’re using with that setup?

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[RBW] PSA: 2000 58cm Atlantis $675 complete bike

[Ian A]

If you ride it with upright bars, I'd imagine it could be a good fit for you. 
I'd ride it at ~5'10" 84cm pbh with drop bars. You'd easily be able to sell 
after riding it a while to see if it's a keeper for you.

IanA

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