Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Well don’t forget I augered into a sand pit and literally filled the right
brifter with sand. I think I did a really good job cleaning it out but you
can only so so much.

The DA bar cons are nice in friction. Gotta be careful standing though.  I
was hoping to use my Riv down tube shifters ( like sun tour superbe pro but
pull more cable) but the frame wasn’t set up for them.

I hope my “addiction to friction” will be able to continue and make all
this moot.

John

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:09 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> "Should with its dedicated road derailer" doesn't always mean "great with
> an mtb derailer."
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Joe Bernard]

"Should with its dedicated road derailer" doesn't always mean "great with an 
mtb derailer." 

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[RBW] A Tale of Two Clems

[Ian A]

A great story and congratulations on the newest acquisition. Once you get the 
blue Clem set up just right so it fits perfectly, it's bound to become your new 
favourite. 

I once bought a used bike which felt all wrong when riding it home. After 
changing the bars and saddle, the bicycle felt like part of me, it fit so well. 
Complete luck on my part, as I had no experience with fitting a bicycle. 
Sometimes magic happens.

IanA Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 3:24:46 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yes, a 105 brifter will shift a Shadow XT 9 "ok", but bar-ends are better 
> at it. With brifters the shift either takes or it doesn't, there's not much 
> you can do to help it along. Bar-ends are technically index (rear), but you 
> still have the friction-like ability to coax onto a recalcitrant cog. 
> Related: Me no likey brifters.


Sounds like you may have a cable friction issue, or something else that's 
less than optimal. All well-adjusted Shimano STI, Campagnolo Ergopower or 
SRAM DoubleTap should shift plenty quick with little hesitation, and no 
coaxing.

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[RBW] Anyone used Gravelking 650b x 38 mm tubeless

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm thinking of using Gravelking 650b x 38mm tubeless with A23 rims.  Has
anyone used these Gravelkings?  I've never used tubeless before, so I'm
trying to solicit experience with the 38s. Most of the tubeless seem to use
fatter tires, presumably for lower pressure.  What pressure would you run
the 38s?

Thanks,
Toshi in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] FS: Pearl Izumi "Barrier" winter cycling cap, 2019 fashion year

[Patrick Moore]

John: Thanks for the offer, but I expect yours would be too small for me;
also, I want something that pulls down to the bottom of my ears.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:36 PM John McBurney  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a big head but not quite as big as you. I have a really nice tweed
> wool cap with cotton jersey fold down ear flaps by Double Darn in Portland.
>
> https://www.doubledarn.com
>
> It was custom made for me. Hounds tooth brown with tan bill. Too big for
> me. Would consider a trade.
>
> Tell me about the pearl cap.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 5:28 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> My loss can be your gain. I bought last year's model, and it was the best
>> of several nice caps I own. So this year I bought another, only to find,
>> not only that they had changed the design -- the new design is fine -- but
>> that they had reduced the "One Size" by about 30%, so that, whereas the
>> 2018 fashion year model fits perfectly, this one is considerably too small.
>>
>> My head measures about 24" in circumference, measured just above jutting
>> brow -- about 7 3/4; so take that into account when considering this.
>>
>> Worn very briefly 3 times indoors while cussing; never worn while cycling.
>>
>> Has wee reflective piping on the brim, and a little pony tail slot at
>> back (I cut off my tail 3-4 years ago).
>>
>> Full retail is $35, plus tax or shipping. You can have it for $28
>> shipped, or in trade for a big winter hat that covers my ears, is dull in
>> color, and whose design I approve of.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, a 105 brifter will shift a Shadow XT 9 "ok", but bar-ends are better at 
it. With brifters the shift either takes or it doesn't, there's not much you 
can do to help it along. Bar-ends are technically index (rear), but you still 
have the friction-like ability to coax onto a recalcitrant cog. Related: Me no 
likey brifters. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Pearl Izumi "Barrier" winter cycling cap, 2019 fashion year

[John McBurney]

Hi

I have a big head but not quite as big as you. I have a really nice tweed
wool cap with cotton jersey fold down ear flaps by Double Darn in Portland.

https://www.doubledarn.com

It was custom made for me. Hounds tooth brown with tan bill. Too big for
me. Would consider a trade.

Tell me about the pearl cap.

John

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 5:28 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My loss can be your gain. I bought last year's model, and it was the best
> of several nice caps I own. So this year I bought another, only to find,
> not only that they had changed the design -- the new design is fine -- but
> that they had reduced the "One Size" by about 30%, so that, whereas the
> 2018 fashion year model fits perfectly, this one is considerably too small.
>
> My head measures about 24" in circumference, measured just above jutting
> brow -- about 7 3/4; so take that into account when considering this.
>
> Worn very briefly 3 times indoors while cussing; never worn while cycling.
>
> Has wee reflective piping on the brim, and a little pony tail slot at back
> (I cut off my tail 3-4 years ago).
>
> Full retail is $35, plus tax or shipping. You can have it for $28 shipped,
> or in trade for a big winter hat that covers my ears, is dull in color, and
> whose design I approve of.
>
>
> --
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[RBW] Re: Pearl Izumi "Barrier" winter cycling cap, 2019 fashion year

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, and I can't return it 'cause I stupidly cut off tags and labels before
trying it on.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:28 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My loss can be your gain. I bought last year's model, and it was the best
> of several nice caps I own. So this year I bought another, only to find,
> not only that they had changed the design -- the new design is fine -- but
> that they had reduced the "One Size" by about 30%, so that, whereas the
> 2018 fashion year model fits perfectly, this one is considerably too small.
>
> My head measures about 24" in circumference, measured just above jutting
> brow -- about 7 3/4; so take that into account when considering this.
>
> Worn very briefly 3 times indoors while cussing; never worn while cycling.
>
> Has wee reflective piping on the brim, and a little pony tail slot at back
> (I cut off my tail 3-4 years ago).
>
> Full retail is $35, plus tax or shipping. You can have it for $28 shipped,
> or in trade for a big winter hat that covers my ears, is dull in color, and
> whose design I approve of.
>
> --
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Good news!

Anyone with an opinionated experience  about the 8 speed 11-40 cassettes?

Are they durable?

John

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:51 PM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
> On 11/8/19 4:20 PM, John McBurney wrote:
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > Thanks for your observation. In the many generations of this bike I
> > ran 105 9 speed brifters with this derailleur. It shifted “ok” but not
> > great. I was told that with the Shadow XT mech that the road and
> > mountain parted ways and weren’t compatible.
>
>
> You were misinformed if the Shadow XT was a 9-speed.   Road and MTB
> parted company with 10-speed MTB DynaSys.   In fact, the "standard
> solution" to getting lower gearing with a > 32T large sprocket during
> the entire 10 speed road era was 10 speed shifters, 9 speed MTB rear
> derailleur.  Many of my riding companions have the same setup with 10
> spd cassettes w/36T large sprockets.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/8/19 4:20 PM, John McBurney wrote:

Hi Joe,

Thanks for your observation. In the many generations of this bike I 
ran 105 9 speed brifters with this derailleur. It shifted “ok” but not 
great. I was told that with the Shadow XT mech that the road and 
mountain parted ways and weren’t compatible.



You were misinformed if the Shadow XT was a 9-speed.   Road and MTB 
parted company with 10-speed MTB DynaSys.   In fact, the "standard 
solution" to getting lower gearing with a > 32T large sprocket during 
the entire 10 speed road era was 10 speed shifters, 9 speed MTB rear 
derailleur.  Many of my riding companions have the same setup with 10 
spd cassettes w/36T large sprockets.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[John McBurney]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for your observation. In the many generations of this bike I ran 105
9 speed brifters with this derailleur. It shifted “ok” but not great. I was
told that with the Shadow XT mech that the road and mountain parted ways
and weren’t compatible. Of course I’d also used those on my cross race bike
and crashed in a sand pit filling the right side with sand. 

This will only be an issue if I can’t get 8 speed cassettes of good
quality.

I just did a 35 mile ride with 3000 feet climbing going over Paris
mountain. At several points along the 2 mile 1000 ft climb the grade is
well over 10% and at the finish it’s over 15%. Sitting and spinning at
80-90 rpm on those climbs is a revelation.

But when we go up we must also go down. The 113 gear inch 46-11 is pretty
fast and I rarely spun out descending.

John



On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:07 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Correctamundo, I've used that derailer with those 9-speed bar-ends. Easy
> peasy if you switch to a Shimano/SRAM 9 cassette.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Joe Bernard]

Correctamundo, I've used that derailer with those 9-speed bar-ends. Easy peasy 
if you switch to a Shimano/SRAM 9 cassette. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Silver 24-38 cranks

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Silver 24-38 cranks

[Jan O.]

PM sent.

Thank you.
Jan

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>
> Ok a slightly raging deal, 
> $180 shipped

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain Hack

[Steve Palincsar]

Judging from the photo, you have a recent vintage 9-speed MTB rear 
derailleur.  If so, all you need to convert to 9 speed indexing is a 9 
speed right hand shifter.  In Shimano world, 8 and 9 speed MTB rear 
derailleurs are compatible with road shifters 8-10 speed.  10 speed MTB 
rear derailleur changed the cable pull and needs a TanPan device to make 
the cable pull compatible.  And if you're running 8, no need to get into 
the additional complexities and nuances of 11.


On 11/8/19 9:26 AM, John McBurney wrote:
I wanted 8 speed in order to have non fiddly friction shifting. I 
heard that wear may be an issue with the lower end 8 speed cassette 
and if that’s true I may try to convert to 9 speed indexing, although 
that may mean sourcing a long cage road derailleur. 


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[RBW] Re: FS: Pletscher Inova Clem Rack

[tuolumne bikes]

Price reduced, $30 plus shipping.

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:21:30 AM UTC-8, tuolumne bikes wrote:
>
> This is the exact rack in the photos for the Clem rack on the Rivendell 
> website--green fork with orange headtube. It's cleaner now. One of the 
> struts has been bent to clear the V-brake for front mounting. Otherwise in 
> great functional shape with minimal wear/scuffing. We've set up touring 
> racks, so we don't need it.
>
> $40 plus shipping from 95310
>
> Carl, Columbia, CA
>

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[RBW] FS: Riv Silver 24-38 cranks

[Joe Bernard]

Ok a slightly raging deal, 
$180 shipped

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[RBW] Re: Clem L front derailleur

[J Imler]

31.8.

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 6:38:09 AM UTC-8, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Can someone who knows tell us the FD clamp size is for the new 59cm Clem-L?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 9:20:18 AM UTC-5, David Carner wrote:
>>
>> You did not mention the size of your Clem L and as Joe mentioned the tube 
>> size may vary by bike size. My August, 2019 Clem L 52 also requires a 
>> 31.8.  I was interested to note that the seat tube is tapered, 31.8 at the 
>> bottom, approximately 28.6 at the top. 
>> David
>>
>> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:50:55 PM UTC-6, Keith Swanson wrote:
>>>
>>> I sold my Hillborne frame to switch to a Clem L and discovered that the 
>>> front derailleur clamp is too small.  I have a 3x8 set up with a Deore rear 
>>> derailleur.  What size clamp is needed for the front derailleur and does 
>>> anyone have a suggestion of which I should get?  
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Reply to author on mobile

[Joe Bernard]

I usually post my email (no @ or .) and text number (no -) because the reply 
interface for Google Groups is madness. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 Brooks Cambium 17s and a Nitto large front rack

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The slate/tan cambium is sold but the slate/slate cambium and the nitto 
front rack are still available. PM me if interested.

Thanks


On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 11:45:06 AM UTC-5, Gary L wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have two cambium 17s that just didn't work for me. One is a nearly new 
> (slate top and bottom) and the other is a little older and slightly faded 
> on top (slate top and tan bottom). Asking $80 shipped for the newer one and 
> $65 shipped for the tan bottom one.
>
> I've also got a nearly new Nitto big front rack that has two attachment 
> pieces that fit fine on my Hunq. Asking $145 shipped. I bought this from a 
> list member a while ago and never used it.
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> Pics here:  https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0x5BydzFWMY9A
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> Thanks,
> gary
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[RBW] Re: Reply to author on mobile

[Reid Echols]

I hear that, though sometimes I'll confess that if I'm "mobile", I'm 
usually out and about and not in a place to squint/navigate the several 
misplaced clicks that usually result in trying to navigate this site on a 
mobile. 

Perhaps in future I'll say: "Please PM me at your convenience if you're on 
a desktop; I can't be bothered with this interface." Seems less polite, but 
maybe more honest. 

Reid in Austin 

On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 12:20:52 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> This is possibly the most stated comment on this list, "Can't PM, I'm on 
> mobile." You can. Go to the bottom of the page and click Desktop. Now you 
> can use the Reply dropdown menu upper right corner to click Reply To 
> Author. 

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[RBW] Re: FS Sugino XD2, double, bash guard, and one 32t ring

[David Wadstrup]

Sorry Reid and Eric, but the crank has sold.  Thanks everyone.

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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Aspin/Aravis replacement leather top, black

[David Wadstrup]

The replacement top is sold.  Thank you everyone.

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> Quickbeam, so I switched out the leather tops.  The black is still in great 
> shape and rather than have it sit in a parts bin for years to come, I 
> figured I'd pass it along.  It's been lightly ridden and is in pretty great 
> shape with only minor signs of wear.  Just some scuffing of the black.  No 
> stretching or indentations or anything.  Never rained on.  I love Berthoud 
> saddles -- super comfortable, all parts are replaceable.  Anyways, if you 
> have an Aravis or Aspin saddle and need a new top or just would like a back 
> up at a reasonable cost, please PM me.  These go for $135 new, but I'm not 
> really sure what to ask fo this gently used one.  Does $50 sound like too 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Aspin/Aravis replacement leather top, black

[Steve Palincsar]

"Pop" is a bit optimistic -- there are 9 torx screws you have to undo 
and redo, which is a little tedious, but yes the tops are 
user-replaceable.  So are the rails.  And really, not just 
theoretically, as with Brooks.   That's not the only improvement over 
Brooks, either: the slots in the cantle plate that serve as bag loops 
are much more elegant than the Brooks solution.


On 11/8/19 4:09 AM, Joe Bernard wrote:

I didn't know you could just pop one out and drop a new one in. That's nifty!


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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Aspin/Aravis replacement leather top, black

[Joe Bernard]

I didn't know you could just pop one out and drop a new one in. That's nifty!

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