[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Joe Bernard]

It doesn't say it on the Rivbike.com listing, but the Instagram post said 
"works with 10, better with 9", and this is undoubtedly related to the normal 
derailers they sell. I don't know anything about Dyna-Sys but if that mech 
expects a longer throw at the shifter then it's no go. 

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[RBW] Re: Fenders for train commute

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 8:08:34 PM UTC-8, Eric G wrote:
>
> The rainy season has started in SF and I am considering putting fenders on 
> my Sam. I commute daily on the Caltrain where people stack their bikes side 
> by side. Generally folks are not very considerate about how they place 
> their bikes. Would fenders be easily broken or damaged in transit? Anyone 
> have experience with this? Would certain brands be sturdier than others?


 Eric, while there are certainly inconsiderate Caltrain cyclists, I will 
say I’ve only suffered damage on my fender once in almost 10 years of 
Caltrain ridership (way back when there was just one bike car per train, 
and no one had Clipper). Just be a little more vigilant about which bikes 
you park with (find regulars to help occupy a whole berth), try to park 
more upright, and you should be fine. The type of fender shouldn’t matter 
too much as all fenders should flex enough to butt up against tires.

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Maybe I missed it, but do these new shifters pull enough cable for the 
Shimano 10-speed Dyna-Sys mountain derailleurs? I know there’s an ENE 
“lopsided” version that does, but I’m not sure I can get over the 
asymmetry. :)

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Mark Roland]

Description of the shifters on the Rivendell Bicycle Works website store:

"Buying these means buying into an approach to gear that is curiously 
freakish these days, and has been for 35 years. It’s the idea that a 
mechanism or tool can be mechanically perfect and virtually unimprovable, 
while at the same time allowing its user to flub up a shift. 
Is a hammer less of a tool than an automatic nail gun? Is a campfire worse 
for cooking wieners than a microwave just because you can burn it or drop 
it? Is a shifter a worse shifter because it doesn’t reduce shifting to 
pushing levers until they click?

The SILVER2 X & O shifters are beautiful, mechanically honest (they don’t 
shift for you), and are anachronism in 2020, bound to baffle archeological 
bike geeks in 2060, when they can't find references to them in the'70s or 
'80s, yet they're clearly weird for any time after that. Friction shifting 
isn’t hard, but it takes practice, and these are the days when you can buy 
shifters that shift for you. It can never be said that these X & O shifters 
suck. They’re as good as you are, and not everybody can handle that. One of 
the images tomorrow is the best shifting advice ever published, and it will 
make friction shifting a breeze. You have to practice, but practice THIS 
way, and you'll be a more skillful shifter than any click-shifting pro."

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 11:18:00 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Are these available indexed?
>
> *ducks while running out of the room*
>
>
> Jim
> austin, tx, earth
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:45 PM dougP > 
> wrote:
>
>> The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the 
>> holidays:  
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451
>>
>> The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work 
>> as bar ends & down tubes.  Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a 
>> spare pair "just in case".  Shifters sold individually so you can do all 
>> sorts of crazy things.  See the website for which-goes-where.  
>>
>> dougP
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[RBW] reading orange seal dip stick question

[ted]

Orange seal comes with a handy dip stick for periodically checking sealant 
level.
It has a roughly 1 inch serrated surface on the end. Should the sealant be 
that deep (i.e. 1")? Half that?
I'm looking for guidance on how deep is good to go and how deep means time 
to add some more.

tia
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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Jim Bronson]

Are these available indexed?

*ducks while running out of the room*


Jim
austin, tx, earth

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:45 PM dougP  wrote:

> The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the
> holidays:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451
>
> The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work
> as bar ends & down tubes.  Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a
> spare pair "just in case".  Shifters sold individually so you can do all
> sorts of crazy things.  See the website for which-goes-where.
>
> dougP
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[RBW] Fenders for train commute

[Eric G]

The rainy season has started in SF and I am considering putting fenders on my 
Sam. I commute daily on the Caltrain where people stack their bikes side by 
side. Generally folks are not very considerate about how they place their 
bikes. Would fenders be easily broken or damaged in transit? Anyone have 
experience with this? Would certain brands be sturdier than others?

Thanks!
Eric G@rs
SF

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[RBW] FS:Bags/Boots/Free Bike- filson, redwing, patagonia, nitto, danner, chaco, topo, etc.

[Drw]

Updates

Gregory baltoro 65L backpack- Good/great shape. bought circa 2015. used on a 
couple short trips/year since then. very good condition. 70$+ shipping

Topo Designs backpack. i think it was called the flap pack? waterproof, 2 
bottle pockets, laptop sleeve, zip interior and zip exterior pockets. about 30l 
but can expand with the flap top. MUSA. very good condition. 50$ +shipping

Patagonia Torrentshell rain jacket. Size small but fits like a medium. very 
good condition 50$ shipped.

Danner Light. size 10.  essentially new/worn once. never hiked in. retail for 
380$. 200$+shipping

Chacos. Black, borderline unworn shape. vibram sole MUSA version, size 10. 
60$+shipping

Jandd hip/fanny pack. Leather patch, i think this is their small version. 2 
pockets. 15$ shipped

Velo Orange Phone/camera pocket thing. I put a grommet in the bottom to let 
water out or power cords in and then I never used it.straps to a basket or 
other things. 15$ shipped

Nitto technomic stem. 25.4/11cm chopped down about an inch. Decent shape. 20$ 
shipped

Dia Compe long pull drop bar levers. For v brakes. As far as I know there are 
only 2 models of drop v levers and these are far superior to the tektros. 
Basically new. Gum hoods. 40$ shipped

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Re: [RBW] Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 11/29/19 8:12 PM, Trenker wrote:


Joe Pesci, as Russell Bufalino:

"There’s a pork store up in Northern California. Right around Walnut 
Creek. You’re from up there ain’t you?


Yeah. And you might even know the guy that runs it.

Actually I’m lookin' for a little favor. For him...not for me. But if 
you can get him a ticket, like to Australia...you know what I mean. 
You wanna help him get down there?"


(I won't give away any spoilers, but "a ticket to Australia" does not 
refer to an airline ticket in this context. Could "pork store" be a 
kind of mob slang for "a shop that sells non-racing bicycles?")




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[RBW] Is anyone else excited about the return of MUSA pants?

[BSWP]

Okay, the most recent email hints/promises MUSA pants in the next two 
weeks... this gives me serious wood, I love all my MUSA attire - shorts, 
pants, shirts - and have been wishing they would all return. Well, TBH, I 
can do without mesh pockets, but still... the wool shirts are the bomb, I 
wear the blue and the green shirts everywhere, and I need, I mean seriously 
need, a new pair or two of pants. Thanks, RBW, for bring these back, I know 
I'll order two pair.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: briar tires

[JohnS]

Since you're talking tires. Has anyone tired the Schwalbe Marathon Almotion 
in the 38c folding (500g)? Looks a lot like Little Big Ben's, but an nearly 
twice the price. I suppose it has better flat protection than the LBB's. I 
love the LBB's but they are not in stock, nor are do they hold up that well 
against the broken glass in Baltimore alleys. 

Thanks,
JohnS

On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-5, Tom Horton wrote:
>
> some advice please. I'm outfitting an MIT atlantis 62 for riding forest 
> roads and trails  where I live on the eastern shore of maryland. not real 
> rough riding, though sandy in patches, BUT we have an eastern native 
> species, greenbriar (smilax), which is not goathead level in its ability to 
> flat tires, but still a tough customer.
>
> I'd prefer to go the tough tire route vs slime or other sealant in the 
> tubes. the schwalbe marathon plus is one way, but mighty heavy and not 
> quite as wide as I'd prefer. schwalbe makes a smart sam with something 
> called double defense, nylon/kevlar belt, that looks pretty good and I 
> think their 2.25 inch would fit the atlantis without fenders.
>
> anyone have experience with those tires, or others? and I often ride 
> pavement to get to the trails.
>
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[RBW] Re: Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[PG]

Seeing as though Rivendell was a Teamster shop at one point, anything is 
possible, even likely...


:)

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[RBW] New V Brakes From Grant?

[PG]

Is that what we are to infer from the latest email?

Any time frame on their arrival?

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[RBW] Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[Trenker]

 

Joe Pesci, as Russell Bufalino:

 

"There’s a pork store up in Northern California. Right around Walnut Creek. 
You’re from up there ain’t you?

Yeah. And you might even know the guy that runs it.

Actually I’m lookin' for a little favor. For him...not for me. But if you 
can get him a ticket, like to Australia...you know what I mean. You wanna 
help him get down there?"

 

(I won't give away any spoilers, but "a ticket to Australia" does not refer 
to an airline ticket in this context. Could "pork store" be a kind of mob 
slang for "a shop that sells non-racing bicycles?")

 

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[RBW] FS:Bags/Boots/Free Bike- filson, redwing, patagonia, nitto, danner, chaco, topo, etc.

[Drw]

Filson bag and iron ranger boots are spoken for

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[RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Joe Bernard]

I'm not really a candidate for the goal of those Hillibikes (plus I already own 
two of the Clem version), but those big tires are so easy to love. I rode a 
Gus and a Susie around the building and they're awesome! 

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[RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[John McClusky]

I usually observe Adbusters’ annual “buy nothing day” today.  Instead, I 
decided to swing by Riv HQ this morning and made a new pair of shifters (and 
other things) my only black friday purchase.  The shifters look fantastic in 
person.  Can’t wait to get them on the Hillborne.  

It was also nice to see all the new models in the showroom.  There was a 
well-ridden green Gus I was drooling over.  The 2.8 tires looked so fun. Their 
tall Homer with the curved, second top tub looked pretty amazing, too.

John

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[RBW] 3 of the 4 tragic Romanov princesses and their bicycles

[Patrick Moore]

I copied this from a Kindle library copy of *George, Nicholas, and Wilhelm:
The Royal Cousins and the Road to World War I* that I am reading.

I guess that Anastasia was too young to bike when this photo was taken.

Riv content:

1. Ride in everyday clothing (and what charming clothing!).
2. Sit up and beg riding position.
3. Lugged steel!
4. Non-disc (plunger) brakes.
5. Big floppy hats.

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[RBW] FS: Secula Plus taillight, fender mount

[Joe Bernard]

Secula is sold (sorry, Pancake). 

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[RBW] FS:Bags/Boots/Free Bike- filson, redwing, patagonia, nitto, danner, chaco, topo, etc.

[Drw]

Apologies that a lot of this isn't super bike related. its all outdoor 
related though, and hopefully the quality of items/prices will inspire some 
leniency. I looked on ebay and tried to make the prices significantly less 
than even cheapest of each of these items, but if you think a price is out 
of line, let me know. My lifestyle has changed a bit and am not getting out 
into the world as much as i used to. looking to pare down and simplify. 
hopefully someone can put these items to good use. large items dont have 
shipping included, but small items do. 


*Gregory baltoro 65L backpac*k- Good/great shape. bought circa 2015. used 
on a couple short trips/year since then. very good condition. 70$+ shipping

*Topo Designs backpack*. i think it was called the flap pack? waterproof, 2 
bottle pockets, laptop sleeve, zip interior and zip exterior pockets. about 
30l but can expand with the flap top. MUSA. very good condition. 50$ 
+shipping

*Filson bag.* I think that this model was called the Pullman. its about the 
size of their medium duffel. but opens like a clamshell/suitcase and has 2 
exterior pockets. interior has straps for holding things down. insane 
filson quality. it was 400$ new. 200$+ shipping. 

*Patagonia Torrentshell rain jacket*. Size small but fits like a medium. 
very good condition 50$ shipped.

*Redwing Mock toe boots*-Looks like the Wacouta, but all leather, no 
canvas. no size listed, but fit like a 10.5. good condition.  50+shipping

*Danner Light*. size 10.  essentially new/worn once. never hiked in. retail 
for 380$. 200$+shipping

*Redwing Iron ranger*- roughout leather. size 9.5, but fit like a 10. ive 
worn these a lot, but they are still in good shape. 50$ + shipping

*LL bean (made by Chippewa) insulated boot*s. fits like size 10-10.5 Black, 
heavy duty, wintery. could use a cleaning. 20$+shipping

*Chacos.* Black, borderline unworn shape. vibram sole MUSA version, size 
10. 60$+shipping

*Jandd* hip/fanny pack. Leather patch, i think this is their small version. 
2 pockets. 15$ shipped

*Velo Orange Phone/camera pocket thing*. I put a grommet in the bottom to 
let water out or power cords in and then I never used it.straps to a basket 
or other things. 15$ shipped

*Nitto technomic stem.* 25.4/11cm chopped down about an inch. Decent shape. 
20$ shipped

*Dia Compe long pull drop bar levers. *For v brakes. As far as I know there 
are only 2 models of drop v levers and these are far superior to the 
tektros. Basically new. Gum hoods. 40$ shipped

*1984 Diamondback Apex*. new tires, chain, cables. deerhead components. 
good shape. semi lugged/semi tigged. tange infinity and made in Japan. this 
is free for pickup in Los Angeles. not really advertising that outside of 
this group, but if you know someone who would like and appreciate this, 
pass the word. 


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[RBW] Re: WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Pancake]

Joe, those chainrings and guard look ideal! And I want to buy your Secula 
taillight. 

Do you happen to have any 175mm or 172.5mm crankarms that would fit those chain 
rings?

Alternately, I have Sugino XD600 cranksets on my other two bikes and could swap 
bits around to make something work ... still need another set of 175 or 172.5 
crank arms either way though. 

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The new mounts sound awesome, so adjustable! In the meantime, try them on your 
sunrace mounts, silvers worked fine on mine.
-Kai

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[RBW] FS: Secula Plus taillight, fender mount

[Pancake]

You have a few parts I’m after Joe - and I’m semi-local. I’ll buy your Secula 
taillight. I can probably pick up tomorrow or Sunday. I’ll PM you about this 
and the VO chainrings.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Dorothy C]

The eBay seller is velomine

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Dorothy C]

I’ve ordered 3 sets - 1 pair to go on my Chocomoose’d Clem as bar ends; and a 
pair for my Appaloosa and Cheviot to replace their Sunrace M90 thumbies when 
the new thumb mounts become available. 

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[john Bokman]

Thanks. Makes sense now. I’ll try some.

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> 
>   Yes, the shape is now copied after the 1980's Suntour Thumbshifters. The 
> innards, while the same as the original Silver levers, is based on the 
> Suntour Sprint road levers, which uses a smaller diameter ratchet design 
> inside than the original mountain Suntour Thumbshifters.  Having both 
> versions, the mountain lever seems to hold the gear better than the road.  As 
> far as I know every copy of Suntour ratcheting levers has been of the road 
> version innards, no one has copied the mountain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:48:15 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote:
> How do these differ from the original silver bar-end shifters on my 2009 Sam?
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[Addison Wilhite]

It's basically the same bike I own only my AR is orange and a couple years
more recent.  Still tempting with that build and price.

Addison Wilhite, M.A.

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

*“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*




On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 6:02 AM masmojo  wrote:

> Must not hit But it now!
> Must not hit But it now!
> Must not hit But it now!
> Must not hit But it now!
>
> Seriously, that tics all the boxes for me, but I am afraid I can't touch
> it either. The bike garage is over capacity already and that would be a
> redundancy on top of the redundancy I already have.
>
> Nice custom; I  might be in the market for something like that in a year
> or two.
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[RBW] Re: WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Garth]

For that matter any new or used 130/74 road triple crank arms will do just 
fine also. 

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[masmojo]

Must not hit But it now!
Must not hit But it now!
Must not hit But it now!
Must not hit But it now!

Seriously, that tics all the boxes for me, but I am afraid I can't touch it 
either. The bike garage is over capacity already and that would be a redundancy 
on top of the redundancy I already have. 

Nice custom; I  might be in the market for something like that in a year or two.

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[David Bivins]

I will check them out! Thanks!

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:26 AM, Max S  wrote:
> 
> David, 
> 
> Have you considered Berthoud stainless steel fenders?.. They are a tad 
> heavier than the aluminum versions from VO or Honjo, but they are quite 
> robust. I acquired a pre-owned set via Adam and they’d been on my rando bike 
> that I had ridden more than a few times in the winter, and now they’re on my 
> commuter, although I haven’t had much opportunity to ride that in the slush 
> yet. Holding up well 🤞
> 
> - Max “all fendered up and nowhere to go” in A2
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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Max S]

David, 

Have you considered Berthoud stainless steel fenders?.. They are a tad heavier 
than the aluminum versions from VO or Honjo, but they are quite robust. I 
acquired a pre-owned set via Adam and they’d been on my rando bike that I had 
ridden more than a few times in the winter, and now they’re on my commuter, 
although I haven’t had much opportunity to ride that in the slush yet. Holding 
up well 🤞

- Max “all fendered up and nowhere to go” in A2

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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[Austin B.]

John, 

I suspect you'll need a wider BB than the 107 that came with your Sam. A 
while back I tried to install a VO 46/30 on my Sam it the 107 and didn't 
work. Had I fully tighten the crank arm the 30t ring would've been touching 
the chainstay.

I think VO specs a BB with a 118 width for their crankset which set up well 
and worked great. Not too wide on the Q--though now the crankset is on my 
Roadeo.

Austin
Sykesville, MD

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Re: [RBW] Re: There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Garth]

   Yes  for the Clem and HillyBikes the tandem cable is what you get, 
this is what Will @Riv told me when I asked about anything I ought to know 
beforehand that's beyond "regular" ... in other words . "are there any 
surprises ?"  

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 5:00:12 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> FWIW, I've often bought tandem-specified cable + housing for bikes with 
> disc brakes and full-length-housing from bar down down tube and along 
> chainstay to rear caliper, just to be sure. A tandem cable will work with 
> any long-stayed Riv single, I'll bet.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Garth]

  Yes, the shape is now copied after the 1980's Suntour Thumbshifters. The 
innards, while the same as the original Silver levers, is based on the 
Suntour Sprint road levers, which uses a smaller diameter ratchet design 
inside than the original mountain Suntour Thumbshifters.  Having both 
versions, the mountain lever seems to hold the gear better than the road.  
As far as I know every copy of Suntour ratcheting levers has been of the 
road version innards, no one has copied the mountain.





On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 5:48:15 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote:
>
> How do these differ from the original silver bar-end shifters on my 2009 
> Sam?
>
>
>>>

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