[RBW] Let's Get Claudia Lopez an El Clem

[Ian A]

Cool photo. Sra Lopez Hernandez is a Green Party politician and the bicycle, 
which is painted green, is (re) decaled "Bogota" and also shows her website 
address. 

Probably not her favourite bicycle, but well suited for official duties.

She'd probably quite at home on a Rodeo as much as a Clem...such is the 
national passion in Colombia for cycling.

I rode my bicycle around Colombia in 2010 and a number of times was stopped by 
motorcyclists and car drivers who just wanted to chat and offer me Coca Cola 
and food. It's a great country to be a cyclist.

IanA in not quite so friendly Alberta Canada.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Cadet and Junior Bags. Both black.

[Roberta]

I forgot to put in the prices. Cadet: $70 and Junior $60.  I’ll also split the 
shipping with you. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 52 Clem H complete

[Andrew Huston]

I bought them with hopes that they would work. I don't typically like a 
long reach and they ended up being about perfect for me. Not super upright 
but definitely not stretched. Handling was great. If Riv offers it again, 
the bull moose would be a great spec.


On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 8:57:23 PM UTC-4, DHans wrote:
>
> Andrew, 
> I’m curious how the bullmoose bars worked with the Clem. I would imagine 
> the long toptube made for a pretty long reach. 
> Thanks, 
> Doug

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[RBW] FS 52 Clem H complete

[DHans]

Andrew,
I’m curious how the bullmoose bars worked with the Clem. I would imagine the 
long toptube made for a pretty long reach. 
Thanks,
Doug

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[RBW] Yves Gomez on SF craigslist

[Drw]

This seems like a really great deal. 

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[RBW] Re: Rock n' Road Tires on a Sam Hillborne

[Damien]

Currently have them on my 51 Sam.

They're a bit loud on pavement but don't really feel that slow, and I 
certainly don't mind it. They've been great on trails, singletrack and 
gravel. I'd recommend them.

I have also had Snoqualmie Pass' on another bike of mine and they rode 
s nice. Surprisingly comfy on gravel, but they're definitely a smooth 
tread so keep that in mind if you need some bite. I always worried about 
puncturing or flatting, but it never happened once.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 32 days of bicycling: bosque ride

[Patrick Moore]

After umpteen days of 15*F above normal, I think I'd welcome a few days of
gray drizzle. Must use those fenders somehow!

Patrick "a bas la maudite compagnie Pomme!" Moore

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 10:07 AM Garth  wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, every area has it's own beauty Patrick  it's all to easy to see
> someone else photos and come down with a case of comparitis ... hah silly
> stuff !  I was only to ABQ for a short time in winter once, and a short
> time in Santa Fe once and yes  the endless sky and the colors like
> no other. I can feel the arid heat from here. I'm rather blah-ed out with
> rain myself, effin' rain rain rain seemingly every day. The other day the
> so called "forecast" called for partly cloudy skies, and radar was all
> clear as I left home. Fifteen minutes later I'm in the midst of a heavy
> drenching mist, like one of those misting shower heads that soaks you
> instantly with a very fine stream, and it wasn't going away anytime soon.
> Hardy har har .  some NM sunshine sounds wonderful.
>
> I still prefer to put photos on my pc and attach them from there because I
> can.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mercian Vincitore

[ANDREW ERMAN]

Sorry for the car accident!  I hope you recovered fully.  Andy

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:05 PM Lester Lammers 
wrote:

> With that head tube, I'd guess that it was a custom frame. I had a King of
> Mercia years ago and it was a fine ride until it and I were hit by a car.
> There may be a serial number on the bottom bracket and I think Mercian may
> be able to shed some light on the head tube.
>
> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 6:47:00 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>>
>> Hi you all.  I thought I would share some pictures of a favorite bike of
>> mine.  I bought the bike many years ago because I loved the way it looked.
>> Please note the tall head tube.  I finally got it to ride comfortably with
>> a lot of help from Will at RBW (various stems and handlebars) and lots of
>> adjustment.  This bike taught me that having the handlebars elevated is a
>> good thing (for me).I found it in a bike store and was told that a mother
>> had ordered the bike from England for her son, who apparently did not want
>> it.  Anyway, here are the pictures of the bike in my office (I have the
>> best parking space at UCLA).  Best, Andy
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[RBW] Re: Mercian Vincitore

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Rich. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Mercian Vincitore

[Lester Lammers]

With that head tube, I'd guess that it was a custom frame. I had a King of 
Mercia years ago and it was a fine ride until it and I were hit by a car. 
There may be a serial number on the bottom bracket and I think Mercian may 
be able to shed some light on the head tube.

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 6:47:00 PM UTC-4, ANDREW ALLEN ERMAN wrote:
>
> Hi you all.  I thought I would share some pictures of a favorite bike of 
> mine.  I bought the bike many years ago because I loved the way it looked. 
>  Please note the tall head tube.  I finally got it to ride comfortably with 
> a lot of help from Will at RBW (various stems and handlebars) and lots of 
> adjustment.  This bike taught me that having the handlebars elevated is a 
> good thing (for me).I found it in a bike store and was told that a mother 
> had ordered the bike from England for her son, who apparently did not want 
> it.  Anyway, here are the pictures of the bike in my office (I have the 
> best parking space at UCLA).  Best, Andy
>

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[RBW] Let's Get Claudia Lopez an El Clem

[Joe Bernard]

All I know is I need those shoes to match the Rad Red paint on my custom. And 
red gloves! ♥️

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[masmojo]

That's what I thought, but it seemed like the talk was breaking down between 
"the new" Cheviot and Leah's "Fancy Cheviot". And then discussion of  it having 
a new name seemed to indicate it was going to be something of a departure from 
the old, but based on the photo it seems to be more of a refinement than a 
totally new thing,  so . . . .
New name? I don't care, but please not something silly. It's hard enough to get 
our local police to take Bicycle theft seriously; just try telling them that in 
addition to your bike being stolen, it was called a Roscoe Bubbe. Even worse 
trying to convince them that said Roscoe Bubbe was worth $2,700.
Pause to wait for them to stop laughing  . . . . 

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[RBW] Let's Get Claudia Lopez an El Clem

[masmojo]

Who knows? My initial impression (not sure why, maybe the title of the thread) 
lead me to believe the bike she had wasn't very good, but on closer inspection 
it would appear to actually be easily as nice as a Clem. 
Also, based on her location and the muddiness of her tires, I would say her 
bike is well suited to her needs. Although honestly,  my impression is it 
doesn't fit her very well. Could just be the angle/pose.

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[RBW] Let's Get Claudia Lopez an El Clem

[Joe Bernard]

Matching frame and helmet, proper cycling gloves and Rad Red clipless shoes 
tells me she's a real rider on the bike she likes. I suspect a 'let's get 
Claudia a Clem' project would end like I suspect some of the 'buying a Riv for 
my wife' projects around here end: "Thanks dear, I'm happy with the bike I 
have." *

*I know it's just a comment, Mark isn't really trying to get Claudia Lopez a 
Clem 

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[Joe Bernard]

Steve, I totally agree about keeping your Toyo AHH. I had one many years ago 
and sold it when they weren't the rare pieces they are today. Who knew?? I wish 
I had that one back. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

Mas: I don't have official word on it, but the fact that the new one may still 
be called a Cheviot tells me it's a replacement. The line of succession is 
Betty/Yvez, which was followed by the updated Cheviot, which will be followed 
by this update. Is what I'm assuming. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Garth, mounting Maxis 2.8" and Schwalbe 2.8" has gone just fine -- only 
the new normal have to work the wheel well just right to get them in due to 
snugger tolerances from tubeless rim/tires. Yes, I'm running tubes.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 2:27:03 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
> I  had hoped the Riv rim once mentioned for the Hillybikes would be 
> available *before/with* the frames arrival. Otherwise I'll do either a 
> Cliffhanger or the DM24, since I do use tubes. I'm not sure what tire I'll 
> get first, but it will be at least a 2.25-2.4, it depends on the tire 
> really. I didn't order a Susie so much for the extra width tires, but for 
> the quite tall head tube and it was a bright shiny Orange, like a fresh 
> glass of liquid Sunshine poured and cured on the frame. Plus, I like the 
> swoopy top tube appearance.  
>
> I'm sure if you asked Velocity about the Atlas on a bike that rides a 
> 2.25-2.8" tire they'd recommend the Cliffhanger instead. 
>
> For Deacon Patrick, do you have any issues mounting and dismounting your 
> tires(any tire you've tired) with tubes on the Cliffhangers ?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:06:59 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>>
>> Gus/Susie pre-orderers: what rims are you planning to use? Are Velocity 
>> Atlases stout enough for the intended use of this bike?
>
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[RBW] Yves Gomez on SF craigslist

[Eric G@rs]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-yvez-gomez/7117660111.html


Eric
SF

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[Steve Cole]

JP,

I've been meaning to add my two cents to this thread and hopefully be 
helpful to you.  I own a Toyo (2007) A. Homer Hilsen (59 cm) and an MIT 
Atlantis (55 cm).   I've taken the time to ride both in the last week in an 
effort to appreciate/zero in on the differences.  Before talking about the 
rides, however, it would probably be helpful if I described the builds.  

Both bikes have similar builds, although the Atlantis has a slightly more 
upscale bulid with a Shimano XT drivetrain while the AHH has a Shimano 
Deore drivetrain.  The Atlantis has a better crankset (MIddleburn), bottom 
bracket (SKF), and headset (Cane Creek).  The AHH has standard Riv 
components in these areas.  Both have Paul brakes -- centerpull on the AHH, 
Motolites on the Atlantis.  The AHH has Velocity Atlas rims with Rene Herse 
Barlow Pass EL 38 x 700c tires; the Atlantis has Velocity Quill rims with 
tubeless Rene Herse Antelope Hill EL 55 x 700c tires.  Both bikes have 
Nitto Bullmoose handlebars.  While the Atlantis has several upgrades, i 
don't think they actually affect the rides of the two bikes in any very 
noticeable way.  No doubt the different tire sizes contribute to any 
difference.  Finally, both have Berthoud saddles, Aspin on the Atlantis, 
Aravis on the AHH.

I bought the Atlantis new recently hoping -- expecting -- it would become 
my one bike.  I expected to be selling my AHH and my Simpleone.  The jury 
is still out.  Since i received the Atlantis in early March, I've ridden it 
the most.  The ride, as many have described, is very forgiving.  It takes 
both pavement and dirt extremely well, perhaps just a bit better than the 
AHH.  I have not noticed any Atlantis handling issues.  It tracks very well 
taking corners as well as the AHH.  It goes exactly where I want it to go. 
 As others have noted, I'm the heaviest part of either ride, so the modest 
additional weight of the Atlantis is only slightly noticeable.

So, why am I at sixes and sevens with respect to making the Atlantis my one 
bike?  When I get on the AHH, it still seems nearly perfect for most of the 
riding I do, which is on pavement.  When it's on dirt, it does not handle 
quite as well as the Atlantis.  Still I love the AHH, in some ways have 
thought of it as the best Rivendell has designed.  And it is beautiful -- I 
love the blue color.  And, while Grant swears their is no difference 
between Toyo, and Waterford AHhs, in my head I feel the Japanese builders 
understand steel and brazing in their souls.

So, I will keep the AHH for now.  I will ride both, although the Atlantis 
will get dibs most days,  And, the Simpleone will soon be offered to others.

I hope this is helpful.  Let me know if I can add any more..

Steve Cole
Arlington, VA




On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:41:29 PM UTC-4, JP wrote:
>
>
> (As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
> However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)
>
> I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
> Atlantis frame based on the following logic:
>
> 1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
> 2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
> felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
> 3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
> riding there.
> 4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
> 4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
> a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
> 5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
> 6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 
>
> I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
> silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
> 1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.
>
> My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
> the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
> still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 
>
> *Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[reynoldslugs]

In response to an off-list query, the seat bag is a Brooks Isle of Wight.

Max

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:54:51 PM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Great bike, great color.  I never pass up a chance to post a picture of my 
> Roadeo - in same colors! Not set up for brevets, but pretty well travelled:
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2h8QWXZ
>
> Max B
> Santa Rosa CA
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[John G.]

What size Atlantis did you go with?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Max S]

All the fancy, not terribly long chainstays: 
https://2rin.wordpress.com/2019/04/17/580-mixte/

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[RBW] Re: 32 days of bicycling: bosque ride

[Garth]

Yeah, every area has it's own beauty Patrick  it's all to easy to see 
someone else photos and come down with a case of comparitis ... hah silly 
stuff !  I was only to ABQ for a short time in winter once, and a short 
time in Santa Fe once and yes  the endless sky and the colors like 
no other. I can feel the arid heat from here. I'm rather blah-ed out with 
rain myself, effin' rain rain rain seemingly every day. The other day the 
so called "forecast" called for partly cloudy skies, and radar was all 
clear as I left home. Fifteen minutes later I'm in the midst of a heavy 
drenching mist, like one of those misting shower heads that soaks you 
instantly with a very fine stream, and it wasn't going away anytime soon. 
Hardy har har .  some NM sunshine sounds wonderful. 

I still prefer to put photos on my pc and attach them from there because I 
can. 

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Lovely! What bag is that? 

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[RBW] Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

[Paul Y]

I'm going for Cliffhangers when I get my Susie too

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[RBW] PSA: Bridgestone Le BUBster 43L in NJ

[Dave S]

Then maybe you need the larger size, which I also have for sale :)

https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-bridgestone-bub-le-bubster/7117764662.html

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[RBW] PSA: Bridgestone Le BUBster 43L in NJ

[masmojo]

Wow, I totally didn't remember those at all!
Unfortunately it's too small for anyone in my family that doesn't already have 
a bike.
Next time I run across my Bstone catalog I'll have to look for that.
At that point I  already had an XO-1 & I  was racing mountain bikes so 
something kind cruisery would have not jumped out at me.
Funny, thing is as wheelbases have gotten longer I did go through a stage of 
looking at "ladies" mountain bikes on Ebay, but most of these old MBs are 
designed for lower shorter head tubes and slacker HT and seat angles.
Still, I dig that.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[masmojo]

I guess one thing I am not clear on; is this Fancy Cheviot a new model (hence a 
different name) or is it going to replace the current model entirely (which was 
my assumption)?
In other words will there be a regular Cheviot & a fancy Cheviot.?

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[RBW] Let's Get Claudia Lopez an El Clem

[Mark Roland]

>From the BBC 

 *In 
the Colombian city of Bogotá, mayor Claudia López closed 117km (72.7 miles) 
of streets to cars in order to make cycling and walking easier during the 
coronavirus lockdown*.--

That's wonderful. But this:

[image: Claudia Lopez Mayor of Bogota.jpg]

Mayor Lopez on (presumably) her bicycle. Oof. Calling Clem Smith Jr. Come 
in, please. Your services are urgently needed.

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[RBW] Re: Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

[Garth]

I  had hoped the Riv rim once mentioned for the Hillybikes would be 
available *before/with* the frames arrival. Otherwise I'll do either a 
Cliffhanger or the DM24, since I do use tubes. I'm not sure what tire I'll 
get first, but it will be at least a 2.25-2.4, it depends on the tire 
really. I didn't order a Susie so much for the extra width tires, but for 
the quite tall head tube and it was a bright shiny Orange, like a fresh 
glass of liquid Sunshine poured and cured on the frame. Plus, I like the 
swoopy top tube appearance.  

I'm sure if you asked Velocity about the Atlas on a bike that rides a 
2.25-2.8" tire they'd recommend the Cliffhanger instead. 

For Deacon Patrick, do you have any issues mounting and dismounting your 
tires(any tire you've tired) with tubes on the Cliffhangers ?



On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:06:59 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> Gus/Susie pre-orderers: what rims are you planning to use? Are Velocity 
> Atlases stout enough for the intended use of this bike?

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[RBW] Re: Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

[Ash]

+1 for Cliffhangers.   I'm going with those for the Susie I'm waiting on.

I have had both Atlas and Cliffhangers on my previous Rivs.  Atlas is super 
solid as well. I had 2.0" tires on them.  Never had any problem even with 
some loaded rides.  If I already had a pair of Atlas I'd use them.  Since 
I'm ordering a new set, I'm going with Cliffhangers.. because why not!  The 
weight difference is hardly noticeable.  Cliffhangers work great for 
tubeless too. 


On Saturday, 2 May 2020 17:39:39 UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I'd recommend Cliffhangers for the extra width, but yes, absolutely, Atlas 
> are stout enough. 2.8" is a lot of tire. I'm not sure I'd want to go 
> narrower than the Cliffhangers, but they may well ride just fine. I know 
> the modern stated limits can be pushed without compromizing safety (Jan at 
> Rene Herse wrote about this somewhat recently), but I'm not sure what the 
> real limits are. I feel solid and confident on my Cliffhangers with 
> Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.8" on 27.5 wheels.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 6:06:59 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>>
>> Gus/Susie pre-orderers: what rims are you planning to use? Are Velocity 
>> Atlases stout enough for the intended use of this bike?
>
>

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