[RBW] Only 1 17/20 Dingle left: $43 shipped CONUS

[Patrick Moore]

Only 1 17/20 Dingle left: $43 shipped CONUS


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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Cadet and Junior Bags. Both black.

[Roberta]

Thank you, all.  Both bags have been sold  

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[RBW] Re: Dyno Light Mounting w/ junction box

[Corwin]

Hi -

Very sorry. The post on the Blug is "Corwin's Hubbuhubbuh", not Corwin's 
Tandem.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:56:30 PM UTC-7, RDS wrote:
>
> I am going to try dyno light for the first time (front light only for 
> now).  I am having a wheel built w/ a son wide body.  I purchased a schmidt 
> edulux ii w/ a junction box (I might add a charger later on) and coax 
> connector.  Bike is roadini w/ cantilever brakes .. once I get the wheel, I 
> will be attaching the light at the fork crown with the bracket shipped with 
> the light which should work for cantilever brakes.  Anyone have any pics of 
> how/where you mount the junction box?  The junction box is not that far 
> from the light, so I'm guessing the head tube if the wire is long enough 
> b/t the light and the junction box.  any help/pics appreciated of how/where 
> your junction box is attached to the bike.
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[RBW] Re: Dyno Light Mounting w/ junction box

[Corwin]

Hi -

I had Peter White put a  Y-junction back downstream of my Edelux II 
headlight. If you scroll down through the blug  
to "Corwin's Tandem", you can see the Y junction in the photo of the bars 
and front rack - about six inches or so behind the headlight. The 
Y-Junction can basically be mounted wherever you want. My Y-junction allows 
me to run a wire back to the stoker bars for a Sinewave Revolution to 
charge my wife's phone (also captured in a photo of the stoker bars on the 
blug). If I were you, I would place the Y-Junction on the fork, and run the 
wire from the junction up to the handlebars for your charger.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 6:56:30 PM UTC-7, RDS wrote:
>
> I am going to try dyno light for the first time (front light only for 
> now).  I am having a wheel built w/ a son wide body.  I purchased a schmidt 
> edulux ii w/ a junction box (I might add a charger later on) and coax 
> connector.  Bike is roadini w/ cantilever brakes .. once I get the wheel, I 
> will be attaching the light at the fork crown with the bracket shipped with 
> the light which should work for cantilever brakes.  Anyone have any pics of 
> how/where you mount the junction box?  The junction box is not that far 
> from the light, so I'm guessing the head tube if the wire is long enough 
> b/t the light and the junction box.  any help/pics appreciated of how/where 
> your junction box is attached to the bike.
>

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[RBW] 17/21 claimed. Take both 17/20s for $80 shipped.

[Patrick Moore]

17/21 claimed. Take both 17/20s for $80 shipped.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> 1. 17/20 new, still on card.
> 2. 17/20, light used (I mounted it new and rode it about 1 mile)
> 2. 17/21, lightly used (per Max whom I just bought it from)
>
> The 17/21 is the one I just bought from Max; I wanted his 17/19 so I'm
> selling this one at the same price I paid for it.
>
> Each: $43 shipped CONUS.
>
> All 3 for for $120 shipped CONUS.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Dingles: 1 X 17/20; 1 X 17/21

[Patrick Moore]

Dingle brand.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:43 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Brand?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Patrick,
With the 2.8" Nobby Nic, can you still install fenders in your Gus?
Thanks.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 6:14 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here's my initial review of Nobby Nic's (2.8"), which I still love are
> still going strong a year later.
> https://deaconpatrick.org/i-get-a-grip-while-the-aspen-bloom
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 9:16:06 AM UTC-6, David Wadstrup wrote:
>>
>> I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a
>> beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels.  I'm uncertain, though, of
>> which tires to choose.  I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would
>> like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.)  I've been looking
>> at Teravail's offerings, but don't know anyone who's personally used them.
>> Does anyone here have any firsthand knowledge?  I'm looking at either the
>> Honcho or the new Kessel.
>>
>> This bike will be dedicated to riding trails.  I am not an overly
>> aggressive rider, but I do want a performance oriented tire, if you know
>> what I mean.  I live in the Northeast and am looking for stability and
>> safety while riding sometimes muddy and wet-rooted trails.  I'm a big fan
>> of Schwalbe's tires and thought the Hans Dampf would be an appropriate 2nd
>> choice(or first choice?) if the Teravails weren't recommended.  But sadly,
>> their new "skinwall" versions don't aesthetically appeal to me. What do
>>  you think -- Tervail Honcho or Kessel or Schwalbe something or other?
>>
>> Thanks for your advice!
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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[J Imler]

I went up from 130 to 135 and I think I did have mine redished by Rich. I 
think it may be dependent on the freewheel cog number you want to run and 
the frame sizing jump up or down that determines that. It's been a few 
years now so I can't recall really.

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 7:04:47 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> You don't have to re-dish, I used correspondingly shorter end caps on each 
> side to bring mine down from 135 to 130. But Alex's bigger problem is his 
> older 126 hub doesn't use the easily replaceable caps I had, Phil needs to 
> do it for him. Super not cheaply! 

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[J Imler]

Here's cap sizing info I received via email from Phil Wood.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CN_npiNL-fVelnLUtBqmgTLOH5GEiaA8R7t5d9H-maU/edit?usp=sharing

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 6:58:05 PM UTC-7, J Imler wrote:
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> I’ve got a Phil freewheel hub spaces to 135 that I’ve used on my 
> Appaloosa. You need the correct length axel caps and then re-dish the 
> wheel. I’ll be got an email with axel cap lengths from Phil that I’ll try 
> to dig up.

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Joe Bernard]

You don't have to re-dish, I used correspondingly shorter end caps on each side 
to bring mine down from 135 to 130. But Alex's bigger problem is his older 126 
hub doesn't use the easily replaceable caps I had, Phil needs to do it for him. 
Super not cheaply! 

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[J Imler]

I’ve got a Phil freewheel hub spaces to 135 that I’ve used on my Appaloosa. You 
need the correct length axel caps and then re-dish the wheel. I’ll be got an 
email with axel cap lengths from Phil that I’ll try to dig up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

[Joe Bernard]

I certainly don't begrudge anyone taking business to a bike shop. But I have to 
insist bike mechanics can go from "don't know" to "know" via a handy phone and 
a search window. Or asking right dang here!

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[RBW] Re: Amusing PSA: Mustard Clem frame

[Joe Bernard]

It was down to $1000 a couple days ago, now back up to $13k. I believe this is 
an example of the species --> moron. 

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Ginz]

I also did this but my hub was older and didn't have the field serviceable 
axel.  I mailed it in and they switched the end caps with a press.  Cost me 
not a ton of money, but I don't recall how much.  Email their customer 
service and I bet they can get you set up.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread

[Philip Williamson]

I take refuge in the 'maybe' part of that rule.  
I'm not a mechanic, I'm a hobbyist. My bike tinkering used to be largely 
due to having non-standard ideas for bike setup, and then it was due to 
being fairly poor, and now I just like it. 

You do need to surrender ego when you step off the edge into the unknown. 
And again when you're doing stuff "you know how to do." 
I'm always prepared to go down to the shop afterward and say, "Hey. Funny 
story. See this?" 

Philip 
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:23:48 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> A good rule to bear in mind is, if you don't know what you're doing maybe 
> you should just let the LBS take care of it.
> On 5/13/20 2:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The learning curve for cranks and bottom brackets can be quite steep and 
> expensive. Especially back in my day when Google was a book or magazine page 
> you tracked down and hoped you understood the grainy pics. Good times! 
>
>
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sim Works/Nitto Black Get Around Bar

[Brendan Willard in SF]

PMed

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 4:52:19 PM UTC-7, Paul M wrote:
>
> These bars are designed by Sim Works and made by Nitto. Gave them a try 
> (less than 50 miles) and realize they work best set-up level or slightly 
> canted upward. I prefer the handlebar to be slightly canted downward which 
> didn't work with the Get Around Bar design for me. Great condition except 
> for some light marring on the skid proof and clear coating applied as a 
> treatment by the manufacturer. $50 shipped from Eugene OR. 
>
> width 700mm
> rise 10mm
> sweep 20'
> center diameter 25.4
> bar diameter 22.2
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[RBW] Re: In Praise of RBW

[Philip Williamson]

Wow! That's a great end to a gut-wrenching story. 
Many happy years on the new fork, I hope! 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 8:58:07 AM UTC-7, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> Everyone I know knows what I think about Rivendell Bikes – I have three 
> and my wife has (had) one.  When I first learned about these bikes and 
> Grant’s philosophy, it was as if I had found my cycling home.  No other 
> bikes every seemed as wonderful.
>
>  
>
> As a daily reader and occasional contributor to RBW Owners Bunch, I know 
> there are many others who share my affection for Riv Bikes.  I have never 
> taken the time, however, to talk about  R BW and the staff.  An event of 
> this week makes me want now more than ever to sing RBW’s praises.
>
>  
>
> Over the years, I’ve had many occasions to interact with RBW staff, mostly 
> over the phone.  Once, while visiting my daughter and her family in the Bay 
> Area, I went out to Walnut Creek, a kind of pilgrimage.  Grant gave me the 
> kind of personal attention I am certain he – and Will, and Mark, and Vince 
> and all the staff – gives every visitor whether a first-timer like myself 
> or a regular.
>
>  
>
> This week.  My grandson is just beginning to cycle – he’s been practicing 
> on the flat top of a parking garage.  On Monday, I loaded my wife’s Betty 
> Foy onto the roof of our car and headed over to the parking garage where 
> she planned to ride with my grandson.  The entrance to the garage is on the 
> top level and we drove in – or tried to.  Regrettably, there is a bar over 
> the entrance that restricts the height of vehicles entering.  There was no 
> sign and I did not notice the bar.  I ran into it and Betty was knocked off 
> the roof.  Initially, it seemed like the most serious damage was to the 
> stem.  It was bent pretty badly.  Otherwise, everything seemed like it 
> could be put back together.
>
>  
>
> After replacing the headset, I went to install the fork.  Ughh!  The top 
> of the threaded section on the steerer had broken off.  My first thought 
> was to reach out to Bilenky to see whether they could remove the steerer 
> tube from the fork and weld on a new one.  A lightbulb went off and some 
> dim memories of RBW selling just forks suggested I reach out to see whether 
> they might have a spare.  I called and spoke with Vince.  I took the 
> measurements he asked for.  Within 10 minutes, he called to let me know 
> they had a replacement – and to cushion the blow and lessen my guilt, it 
> was already painted in Betty Foy blue with the red mustache on the fork 
> crown.  Vince sent it out the same day.
>
>  
>
> What can I say.  What other company would even have spare forks for a 
> nearly 10-year old bike, much less one that is already painted and will fit 
> perfectly?  
>
>  
>
> RBW – and especially Vince – I remain a devoted follower!
>

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[RBW] Re: Amusing PSA: Mustard Clem frame

[Matt Rhodes]

I too was flabbergasted when I saw this. I messaged the seller to inform 
them about the brand-new-from-Riv price and asked if there was a rationale 
behind the 100% markup. No response.

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:45:55 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> I won't link it but there's an NOS Clem F/F/HS on Ebay. $1800! Plus 
> shipping!!!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dingles: 1 X 17/20; 1 X 17/21

[JohnS]

No wonder Max wasn't mad when I backed out of the deal :)

JohnS



On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 7:43:29 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Brand?

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Scott G.]

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 7:42:26 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Anybody know if there are any solutions spacing out a 126mm freewheel rear 
> hub to modern 135 spacing?  I did some internet sleuthing but came up empty 
> handed.
>
> Thx!!
>
> Alex in Rochester, NY
>

Phil sold me axle caps to switch from 126oln to 120oln.
There was one for each side, neatly machined steel stub axles,




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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Joe Bernard]

I did 135 down to 130 with spacers Phil sold me. 

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[RBW] Re: Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Just to be clear this question is specific to Phil Wood rear freewheel hubs 
only.

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[RBW] FS: Dingles: 1 X 17/20; 1 X 17/21

[Joe Bernard]

Brand?

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[RBW] Re-spacing a Phil Wood hub, 126-135

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Anybody know if there are any solutions spacing out a 126mm freewheel rear hub 
to modern 135 spacing?  I did some internet sleuthing but came up empty handed.

Thx!!

Alex in Rochester, NY

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[RBW] Header should read: 2 X 17/20, 1 X 17/20" [Dingles: 1 X 17/20; 1 X 17/21]

[Patrick Moore]

"Header should read: 2 X 17/20, 2 X 17/20"

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:40 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> 1. 17/20 new, still on card.
> 2. 17/20, light used (I mounted it new and rode it about 1 mile)
> 2. 17/21, lightly used (per Max whom I just bought it from)
>
> The 17/21 is the one I just bought from Max; I wanted his 17/19 so I'm
> selling this one at the same price I paid for it.
>
> Each: $43 shipped CONUS.
>
> All 3 for for $120 shipped CONUS.
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[RBW] FS: Dingles: 1 X 17/20; 1 X 17/21

[Patrick Moore]

1. 17/20 new, still on card.
2. 17/20, light used (I mounted it new and rode it about 1 mile)
2. 17/21, lightly used (per Max whom I just bought it from)

The 17/21 is the one I just bought from Max; I wanted his 17/19 so I'm
selling this one at the same price I paid for it.

Each: $43 shipped CONUS.

All 3 for for $120 shipped CONUS.

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah:

Thank you.  It is what it is.  I am in much better shape than many people.  
There is nothing I can do currently but wait, see what happens, and trust I 
will end up where I am supposed to be.  But I appreciate the kindness.  
Please stay safe yourself along with the small persons under your care.

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Re: [RBW] Best 1 - 11 setup

[Patrick Moore]

BTW, I will not criticize anyone who wants to put a 32 X 10-50 on a road
bike; do whatever is the most fun. I certainly have some weird drivetrains.
But I thought someone ought to point out that perhaps you don't need such a
high high or low low for such a bike, and that you might want smaller than
10" jumps between the most common cruising gears.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 3:58 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm curious why you need a 46 or 42 t cog on a bike built to be a fast
> road bike, especially in DC (I lived and rode there). I would think you'd
> sorely miss closer ratios in the middle gears, no? The first 11 sp cassette
> meant for a single ring that I could find was this one for a 42 t ring:
> 10,12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,36,42
>
> That's a drop from 84" 74" to 65" to 56" which would be fine on a mountain
> bike for steep singletrack, but IMO, deadly on a road bike (I'm assuming a
> 28" diameter wheel for a true 35 mm tire, but the gaps would be very
> similar for skinnier tires.)
>
> Actually, the jumps aren't as big as I had feared, but they're still
> pretty big for a fast road bike.
>
> And that's a 117" high, which IMO is pretty high even for a fast road bike
> unless you are racing.
>
> Even if you will be carrying heavy-ish loads* into headwinds up the hills
> I am familiar with in NW Washington, I can't see needing anything lower
> than say a gear in the 40s; let's say 40". I'm not familiar with 1X
> drivetrains, but to take my dirt road-road bike as an example, if you have
> a 42 t ring and 32 mm tires, that would mean a cog of about 30 t: 42/30 X
> 28" wheel = 39". That's a lot lower than I use for everyday riding in
> rolling terrain even with grocery loads on my road bike, and I'm 65 and
> hardly super fit. Now a long ride for me is 40 miles (it is indeed up from
> 30!), but at least for that distance, in merely rolling terrain without a
> heavy load, I can't see using anything below 40 gi -- I can't see using
> even that, frankly. My dirt road bike bottoms out at 50" in the 42 ring,
> and at 33" in the 28 t ring (25 t cog).
>
> My road bike for dirt roads is set up as a 1X 10 with bailout ring (42/28
> X 13-25 10 speed) and while I realize most people aren't as fussy as I
> about close gaps in the middle range, I can't imagine
>
>
>
> * Since my errand road bike is unavailable, I've been using my gofast road
> bike for carrying groceries; 20.32 lb exactly today in a Camper Longflap on
> the Joe Starck custom, 76" fixed gear, no hills but certainly a headwind.
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:27 PM Robert Gardner <
> robert.harris.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks --
>>
>> I am retooling my drive train on my Roadini -- this will be my "fast
>> bike" and potentially used in whatever we are calling rando rides these
>> days (pending any actual group rides happening again).
>>
>> Looking for suggestions on a 1-11 drivetrain -- 11-46? 11-42? I'm in DC,
>> so will be riding some hills, some flats, but nothing too crazy. Not sure
>> if I'm going to go Herse or White Industries, so I'd love thoughts there as
>> well. And, that little thing called a derailleur. I will be using a bar end
>> shifter.
>>
>> I'm assuming you all have very definite thoughts, so please treat me
>> kindly in this thread.
>>
>> A danke --
>>
>> RGinDC
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Re: [RBW] In Praise of RBW

[Patrick Moore]

+1. I've had instances when email went unanswered because they got lost and
staff was very busy, but calls were always handled quickly, professionally,
and in a very friendly manner.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:25 AM ANDREW ERMAN  wrote:

> I agree Steve.  My experiences in person and on the phone have been
> uniformly great.  Andy
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>
>> Everyone I know knows what I think about Rivendell Bikes – I have three
>> and my wife has (had) one.  When I first learned about these bikes and
>> Grant’s philosophy, it was as if I had found my cycling home.  No other
>> bikes every seemed as wonderful.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a daily reader and occasional contributor to RBW Owners Bunch, I know
>> there are many others who share my affection for Riv Bikes.  I have never
>> taken the time, however, to talk about  R BW and the staff.  An event of
>> this week makes me want now more than ever to sing RBW’s praises.
>>
>>
>>
>> Over the years, I’ve had many occasions to interact with RBW staff,
>> mostly over the phone.  Once, while visiting my daughter and her family in
>> the Bay Area, I went out to Walnut Creek, a kind of pilgrimage.  Grant gave
>> me the kind of personal attention I am certain he – and Will, and Mark, and
>> Vince and all the staff – gives every visitor whether a first-timer like
>> myself or a regular.
>>
>>
>>
>> This week.  My grandson is just beginning to cycle – he’s been practicing
>> on the flat top of a parking garage.  On Monday, I loaded my wife’s Betty
>> Foy onto the roof of our car and headed over to the parking garage where
>> she planned to ride with my grandson.  The entrance to the garage is on the
>> top level and we drove in – or tried to.  Regrettably, there is a bar over
>> the entrance that restricts the height of vehicles entering.  There was no
>> sign and I did not notice the bar.  I ran into it and Betty was knocked off
>> the roof.  Initially, it seemed like the most serious damage was to the
>> stem.  It was bent pretty badly.  Otherwise, everything seemed like it
>> could be put back together.
>>
>>
>>
>> After replacing the headset, I went to install the fork.  Ughh!  The top
>> of the threaded section on the steerer had broken off.  My first thought
>> was to reach out to Bilenky to see whether they could remove the steerer
>> tube from the fork and weld on a new one.  A lightbulb went off and some
>> dim memories of RBW selling just forks suggested I reach out to see whether
>> they might have a spare.  I called and spoke with Vince.  I took the
>> measurements he asked for.  Within 10 minutes, he called to let me know
>> they had a replacement – and to cushion the blow and lessen my guilt, it
>> was already painted in Betty Foy blue with the red mustache on the fork
>> crown.  Vince sent it out the same day.
>>
>>
>>
>> What can I say.  What other company would even have spare forks for a
>> nearly 10-year old bike, much less one that is already painted and will fit
>> perfectly?
>>
>>
>>
>> RBW – and especially Vince – I remain a devoted follower!
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[RBW] Re: FS: Dingle Cogs 17/19 and 17/21 $85

[maxcr]

That was fast, cogs have been claimed.
Max

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 6:13:46 PM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know some of you chase these down since they're not easy to find. Anyone 
> with a singlespeed project coming up? 
>
> Two lightly used cogs: a Surly 17/19 and a 17/21 - selling both as a 
> bundle for $85 shipped to continental US  (Paypal friends and family or 
> Venmo)
>
> Max
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh, and for me, tan walls are preferable, all things equal, but no way I'd 
only look at tan wall options. I steered away from Terevail just because 
they are such an unknown quantity.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 9:16:06 AM UTC-6, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a 
> beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels.  I'm uncertain, though, of 
> which tires to choose.  I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would 
> like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.)  I've been looking 
> at Teravail's offerings, but don't know anyone who's personally used them. 
>  Does anyone here have any firsthand knowledge?  I'm looking at either the 
> Honcho or the new Kessel.  
>
> This bike will be dedicated to riding trails.  I am not an overly 
> aggressive rider, but I do want a performance oriented tire, if you know 
> what I mean.  I live in the Northeast and am looking for stability and 
> safety while riding sometimes muddy and wet-rooted trails.  I'm a big fan 
> of Schwalbe's tires and thought the Hans Dampf would be an appropriate 2nd 
> choice(or first choice?) if the Teravails weren't recommended.  But sadly, 
> their new "skinwall" versions don't aesthetically appeal to me. What do 
>  you think -- Tervail Honcho or Kessel or Schwalbe something or other?
>
> Thanks for your advice!
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here's my initial review of Nobby Nic's (2.8"), which I still love are 
still going strong a year later. 
https://deaconpatrick.org/i-get-a-grip-while-the-aspen-bloom

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 9:16:06 AM UTC-6, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a 
> beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels.  I'm uncertain, though, of 
> which tires to choose.  I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would 
> like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.)  I've been looking 
> at Teravail's offerings, but don't know anyone who's personally used them. 
>  Does anyone here have any firsthand knowledge?  I'm looking at either the 
> Honcho or the new Kessel.  
>
> This bike will be dedicated to riding trails.  I am not an overly 
> aggressive rider, but I do want a performance oriented tire, if you know 
> what I mean.  I live in the Northeast and am looking for stability and 
> safety while riding sometimes muddy and wet-rooted trails.  I'm a big fan 
> of Schwalbe's tires and thought the Hans Dampf would be an appropriate 2nd 
> choice(or first choice?) if the Teravails weren't recommended.  But sadly, 
> their new "skinwall" versions don't aesthetically appeal to me. What do 
>  you think -- Tervail Honcho or Kessel or Schwalbe something or other?
>
> Thanks for your advice!
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud GB2886 Handlebar Bag and Decaleur!

[maxcr]

No takers? How's $220 shipped?
Max

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 12:02:31 AM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>
> Bump, Berthoud GB2886 large rando bag in black still available. New price: 
> bag + decaleur *$240 shipped. *(Paypal friends and family or Venmo)
>
>
> Max in Massachusetts
>
> On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 5:11:42 PM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>>
>> Here's another photo back when it was installed on the SH.
>> Max
>>
>> On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 5:05:29 PM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>>>
>>> For sale, beautiful Berthoud GB2886 large rando bag in black. Excellent 
>>> condition with its decaleur for easy mounting - *$250 plus shipping* or 
>>> local pick up in Massachusetts. (Paypal friends and family or Venmo)
>>>
>>> If you're interested, this came off my 62 Sam Hillborne and it always 
>>> worked great.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> Max cleaning up his stash during the Covid-19 crisis
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Best 1 - 11 setup

[Patrick Moore]

I'm curious why you need a 46 or 42 t cog on a bike built to be a fast road
bike, especially in DC (I lived and rode there). I would think you'd sorely
miss closer ratios in the middle gears, no? The first 11 sp cassette meant
for a single ring that I could find was this one for a 42 t ring:
10,12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,36,42

That's a drop from 84" 74" to 65" to 56" which would be fine on a mountain
bike for steep singletrack, but IMO, deadly on a road bike (I'm assuming a
28" diameter wheel for a true 35 mm tire, but the gaps would be very
similar for skinnier tires.)

Actually, the jumps aren't as big as I had feared, but they're still pretty
big for a fast road bike.

And that's a 117" high, which IMO is pretty high even for a fast road bike
unless you are racing.

Even if you will be carrying heavy-ish loads* into headwinds up the hills I
am familiar with in NW Washington, I can't see needing anything lower than
say a gear in the 40s; let's say 40". I'm not familiar with 1X drivetrains,
but to take my dirt road-road bike as an example, if you have a 42 t ring
and 32 mm tires, that would mean a cog of about 30 t: 42/30 X 28" wheel =
39". That's a lot lower than I use for everyday riding in rolling terrain
even with grocery loads on my road bike, and I'm 65 and hardly super fit.
Now a long ride for me is 40 miles (it is indeed up from 30!), but at least
for that distance, in merely rolling terrain without a heavy load, I can't
see using anything below 40 gi -- I can't see using even that, frankly. My
dirt road bike bottoms out at 50" in the 42 ring, and at 33" in the 28 t
ring (25 t cog).

My road bike for dirt roads is set up as a 1X 10 with bailout ring (42/28 X
13-25 10 speed) and while I realize most people aren't as fussy as I about
close gaps in the middle range, I can't imagine



* Since my errand road bike is unavailable, I've been using my gofast road
bike for carrying groceries; 20.32 lb exactly today in a Camper Longflap on
the Joe Starck custom, 76" fixed gear, no hills but certainly a headwind.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:27 PM Robert Gardner <
robert.harris.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks --
>
> I am retooling my drive train on my Roadini -- this will be my "fast bike"
> and potentially used in whatever we are calling rando rides these days
> (pending any actual group rides happening again).
>
> Looking for suggestions on a 1-11 drivetrain -- 11-46? 11-42? I'm in DC,
> so will be riding some hills, some flats, but nothing too crazy. Not sure
> if I'm going to go Herse or White Industries, so I'd love thoughts there as
> well. And, that little thing called a derailleur. I will be using a bar end
> shifter.
>
> I'm assuming you all have very definite thoughts, so please treat me
> kindly in this thread.
>
> A danke --
>
> RGinDC
>
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[RBW] Re: Best 1 - 11 setup

[Adam in Indiana]

I'll third the Microshift/SLX drivetrain... I've used it on two different 
frames now.  Currently have it on a Gevenalle/TRP brake lever, and used it as a 
bar-end on my Hillborne.  I used it in friction mode then, and got pretty good 
at it, but the index mode is always there as a fallback.



On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 3:27:45 PM UTC-4, Robert Gardner wrote:
> Hi folks --
> 
> 
> I am retooling my drive train on my Roadini -- this will be my "fast bike" 
> and potentially used in whatever we are calling rando rides these days 
> (pending any actual group rides happening again). 
> 
> 
> Looking for suggestions on a 1-11 drivetrain -- 11-46? 11-42? I'm in DC, so 
> will be riding some hills, some flats, but nothing too crazy. Not sure if I'm 
> going to go Herse or White Industries, so I'd love thoughts there as well. 
> And, that little thing called a derailleur. I will be using a bar end 
> shifter. 
> 
> 
> I'm assuming you all have very definite thoughts, so please treat me kindly 
> in this thread. 
> 
> 
> A danke --
> 
> 
> RGinDC

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[RBW] Re: Best 1 - 11 setup

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I'll second the SLX/Microshift 11-46 setup.  I had that on My Velo Orange 
Piolet. Indexing on the Microshift sometimes got in between positions, but 
could be fine tuned with more/less tension on the shifter screw.  I'm 
running a 1x11 White Industries ENO 34t to a SRAM XO1 & XT 11-46 cassette 
on my Travelers Check, but that is with Bullmoose Bars and a XO1 thumb 
shifter- really happy with it.  Planning to do an Ultegra brake/shifter to 
Tanpan to SLX with 11-46 on a Black Mountain Road+ I'm building.  I'll let 
you know!

Brendan

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 1:09:14 PM UTC-7, Wyatt wrote:
>
> Can’t say I know the best, but I recently set up a 1x11 drive train with a 
> Microshift bar end, SLX rear derailleur, and SLX 11-46 rear cassette. Loved 
> it, especially once I got the hang of running it friction and doing smooth 
> double or triple shifts. Plenty of range, though I’d probably run a 
> chainring bigger than 38t next time. Was fairly cheap and light enough, 
> too. Had to leave that frame behind in Indonesia in the middle of this 
> whole thing, but plan to set up that same drivetrain again in the not too 
> distant future. 
>
> Curious to hear what other 1x11 drivetrains people hang put together, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joyce Swanson]

What great news, Leah!  I'm so glad this bike is going to be available and
happy to hear so many others in the group saying they will order.  I'm IN
and going "light" with you and Roberta. Thank you for "nagging" Vince and
Will with tenacity and kindness.  YIPPEE!
#RivSisters,
--Joyce

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the best news!
>
> First, I confess that since we knew there would be a Fancy Cheviot last
> year, I have been sending emails to Rivendell. Prior to that, I had been
> checking in, begging for the Anniversary Mixte to be made, but it was not
> to be. Grant said that instead, there would be a “fancified Cheviot.” This
> Nu-Chev appears to be what he meant, and it does resemble the sketch we saw
> on the Blahg.
>
> Things went from bad to worse for the business over the next several
> months (we know because we all read the blog posts) and it was looking like
> this model may not even happen. I checked in from time to time about the
> bike but no promises could be made. Best content yourself with your Clem, I
> told myself, possibly have your mixte made using the custom option. These
> past 3 months I wrote a lot of emails asking questions of poor Will and
> Vince because I knew their factory time slot was approaching, and I wanted
> to get in line for a custom mixte with Riv/Nobilette if Rivendell did not
> place their Cheviot order. No real time estimate can be given until the
> purchase order is placed. Further complicating things, the bike wasn’t
> quite ready - there were some design details to work out. Until a purchase
> order is made, you can’t assume the bike is going to be made...ever. The
> custom option was in my back pocket, but I really didn’t want to spend the
> extra money - and also, Rivendell makes more money on a production bike.
>
> But today...May 13th is a great day, my friends. Will wrote to say that -
> this morning - he placed his purchase order for the 2020 Fancy Cheviots!!!
> (I got Will’s blessing to say this here.)
>
> Let’s just let that sink
> in
>
> Ok, have we all composed ourselves? Are we wearing our clothes? No one has
> soiled him/herself? Have we managed to remain upright? Ok, good, moving
> right along... Will figures Nu-Chevs (his word) will be here late
> October/early November. So, with luck, we’ll burn off our Thanksgiving
> turkey on the backs of our Cheviots. If not that, they’ll be wrapped in
> bows under our Christmas trees. But we’ll hope for November.
>
> Now, here’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping we clean them out of their
> Nu-Cheviot stock. This is because 1. I feel like (true or not) I pressured
> them into making the order and 2. Rivendell took a gamble placing a big
> bike order in the current economic climate. They need to sell these bikes.
>
> So, if you are a man who has been considering setting aside your
> objections to mixte frames, you should order this Cheviot.  If you are
> someone with stimulus money burning a hole in your pocketses (I hope you
> get that reference), you should order your very own shiny Nu-Cheviot. If
> you are one of my #RivSisters, well, just look at this bike - It’s been
> made just for you. I don’t know what it is exactly, but I’ve yet to hear a
> #RivSister say she has anything but heart eyes for these Nu-Cheviots. Those
> split rear stays, those sexy swoops, those voluminous 700c wheels - these
> bikes are different than any other Riv model currently offered and this is
> a club I want to be in.
>
> Save me a 55, I told Will. Does anyone else know for certain they’ll sign
> up for the pre-order when it hits the website?
>
> The future is bright and it looks like a mixte! 🤩😉
> Leah
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[RBW] Best 1 - 11 setup

[Wyatt]

Can’t say I know the best, but I recently set up a 1x11 drive train with a 
Microshift bar end, SLX rear derailleur, and SLX 11-46 rear cassette. Loved it, 
especially once I got the hang of running it friction and doing smooth double 
or triple shifts. Plenty of range, though I’d probably run a chainring bigger 
than 38t next time. Was fairly cheap and light enough, too. Had to leave that 
frame behind in Indonesia in the middle of this whole thing, but plan to set up 
that same drivetrain again in the not too distant future.

Curious to hear what other 1x11 drivetrains people hang put together, too.

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[greenteadrinkers]

Just jumping in... might be totally off base, but, happened to watch a 
interview with these guys behind this web app called Bike Insights, which, 
allows one to compare two frame geometries over top of each other. One can 
/ could add to the data base, might be helpful in this case?

https://bikeinsights.com/

Scott

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>
> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Best 1 - 11 setup

[Robert Gardner]

Hi folks --

I am retooling my drive train on my Roadini -- this will be my "fast bike"
and potentially used in whatever we are calling rando rides these days
(pending any actual group rides happening again).

Looking for suggestions on a 1-11 drivetrain -- 11-46? 11-42? I'm in DC, so
will be riding some hills, some flats, but nothing too crazy. Not sure if
I'm going to go Herse or White Industries, so I'd love thoughts there as
well. And, that little thing called a derailleur. I will be using a bar end
shifter.

I'm assuming you all have very definite thoughts, so please treat me kindly
in this thread.

A danke --

RGinDC

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Joe Bernard]

Kenda Kwicks are great if you can't afford brakes. Just stop pedaling and you 
slow down right away! 

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[RBW] Re: Are Riv Sliver shifter + Paul thumibe days over?

[Joe Bernard]

Update: Apparently someone here has made this work, but I tried a Silver2 with 
adapter on a Paul Thumbie and the barrel is too big on these new shifters..it 
rubs on the part where the cable goes in. I ended up using an old Silver1 I had 
around. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joseph Bernard]

Indeed David, this is happening as we speak. The cables/housing are on
their normal sides, then they cross over in front of the headtube (with
room to spare, I cut the housing long) to reach the swapped shifters. All
good 👍

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 11:58 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Joe,
> If you set this up to have two shifters and you keep the rear shifter on
> the left, cross the housings in front of the head tube and keep the wires
> on their respective sides of the down tube. They won't interfere with the
> paint or the 3rd water bottle bosses and the routing will keep the housings
> away from the head tube. It's an ideal situation for that configuration!
> (If they don't fight the brake cables, interfere with a bag, etc.)
> I use Steve's rubber sleeves, too, on head tubes. They have a slit for
> installation and can go on anywhere without disconnecting cables. (JagWire?)
> Also, get some helicopter tape for places where there may be some
> occasional rubbing and as a chain slap guard.
>
> David Lipsky
>
> On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable
>> being too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in
>> my response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the
>> housing that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping
>> things around to have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the
>> paint!
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe,
If you set this up to have two shifters and you keep the rear shifter on 
the left, cross the housings in front of the head tube and keep the wires 
on their respective sides of the down tube. They won't interfere with the 
paint or the 3rd water bottle bosses and the routing will keep the housings 
away from the head tube. It's an ideal situation for that configuration! 
(If they don't fight the brake cables, interfere with a bag, etc.)
I use Steve's rubber sleeves, too, on head tubes. They have a slit for 
installation and can go on anywhere without disconnecting cables. (JagWire?)
Also, get some helicopter tape for places where there may be some 
occasional rubbing and as a chain slap guard.

David Lipsky

On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable 
> being too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in 
> my response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the 
> housing that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping 
> things around to have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the 
> paint! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Update: Hey Pancake, remember you were concerned about the shifter cable being 
too close to the downtube (which I inexplicably called a toptube in my 
response)? Whelp, you meant the cable wire when I thought you meant the housing 
that always rubs on headtubes. I'm in the process of swapping things around to 
have two shifters and holy crap the wire was right on the paint! I really 
should have looked closer when you mentioned this. Fortunately Joe Bell paint 
is pretty tough and I haven't shifted much yet so I didn't scratch anything. 
Sheesh! 

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[RBW] WTB: Paul Melvin tensioner

[Reid Echols]

Hi folks, thinking about trying a Will-style 2-speed on my Homer, so I'm 
looking for a used Melvin in silver, if anyone has one they're looking to 
unload. 

Reid in Austin 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Roberta]

Hi, Kiley.

As I recall, your Chev was the 60 size and you found it too heavy when 
picking it up to lift over gates or fences or such.  You might want to 
review the pics of the current 60 size with the Orange Nu-Chev (could that 
be N-ewe Cheviot, get it???)  to see if the top tube is lower  Or, ask 
Riv.  I'm pretty sure that the sizing chart on their site is the one that's 
been there for years.  I'm not sure if that will be the same sizing chart 
for the N-ewe Cheviot (I hope they don't actually call it that, but it's 
pretty cute for here).

If I'm in the middle pbh for my size (83pbh, I'm assuming 55), I'll be 
getting one. I think I'm in the same decade of life as you and picking up 
is important.  I'll be having James at Analog build mine up "light."  You 
might want to do something similar (lighter saddle, wheels, tubeless, alum 
handlebars, 1x)  to make my entire bike riding/ownership experience 
better.  There's another thread about it.  Bicycle Belle Ding Ding or Joe 
started it, perhaps a month ago.

Roberta



On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-4, Kiley Demond wrote:
>
> Well, it is now clear to me that somehow I dropped off the Riv newsletter 
> distribution. I was waiting to hear about the next shipment of Clem L and 
> then this comes along... I am unable to find a link to the newsletter... 
> just Blogs and Blugs. Please help.. I am finally looking at getting my 
> forever bike (again). I can’t believe it has been 4 years since I bought my 
> Cheviot, and almost 2 years since I sold it. 
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
>> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] In Praise of RBW

[ANDREW ERMAN]

I agree Steve.  My experiences in person and on the phone have been
uniformly great.  Andy

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Everyone I know knows what I think about Rivendell Bikes – I have three
> and my wife has (had) one.  When I first learned about these bikes and
> Grant’s philosophy, it was as if I had found my cycling home.  No other
> bikes every seemed as wonderful.
>
>
>
> As a daily reader and occasional contributor to RBW Owners Bunch, I know
> there are many others who share my affection for Riv Bikes.  I have never
> taken the time, however, to talk about  R BW and the staff.  An event of
> this week makes me want now more than ever to sing RBW’s praises.
>
>
>
> Over the years, I’ve had many occasions to interact with RBW staff, mostly
> over the phone.  Once, while visiting my daughter and her family in the Bay
> Area, I went out to Walnut Creek, a kind of pilgrimage.  Grant gave me the
> kind of personal attention I am certain he – and Will, and Mark, and Vince
> and all the staff – gives every visitor whether a first-timer like myself
> or a regular.
>
>
>
> This week.  My grandson is just beginning to cycle – he’s been practicing
> on the flat top of a parking garage.  On Monday, I loaded my wife’s Betty
> Foy onto the roof of our car and headed over to the parking garage where
> she planned to ride with my grandson.  The entrance to the garage is on the
> top level and we drove in – or tried to.  Regrettably, there is a bar over
> the entrance that restricts the height of vehicles entering.  There was no
> sign and I did not notice the bar.  I ran into it and Betty was knocked off
> the roof.  Initially, it seemed like the most serious damage was to the
> stem.  It was bent pretty badly.  Otherwise, everything seemed like it
> could be put back together.
>
>
>
> After replacing the headset, I went to install the fork.  Ughh!  The top
> of the threaded section on the steerer had broken off.  My first thought
> was to reach out to Bilenky to see whether they could remove the steerer
> tube from the fork and weld on a new one.  A lightbulb went off and some
> dim memories of RBW selling just forks suggested I reach out to see whether
> they might have a spare.  I called and spoke with Vince.  I took the
> measurements he asked for.  Within 10 minutes, he called to let me know
> they had a replacement – and to cushion the blow and lessen my guilt, it
> was already painted in Betty Foy blue with the red mustache on the fork
> crown.  Vince sent it out the same day.
>
>
>
> What can I say.  What other company would even have spare forks for a
> nearly 10-year old bike, much less one that is already painted and will fit
> perfectly?
>
>
>
> RBW – and especially Vince – I remain a devoted follower!
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[RBW] In Praise of RBW

[Steve Cole]

Everyone I know knows what I think about Rivendell Bikes – I have three and 
my wife has (had) one.  When I first learned about these bikes and Grant’s 
philosophy, it was as if I had found my cycling home.  No other bikes every 
seemed as wonderful.

 

As a daily reader and occasional contributor to RBW Owners Bunch, I know 
there are many others who share my affection for Riv Bikes.  I have never 
taken the time, however, to talk about  R BW and the staff.  An event of 
this week makes me want now more than ever to sing RBW’s praises.

 

Over the years, I’ve had many occasions to interact with RBW staff, mostly 
over the phone.  Once, while visiting my daughter and her family in the Bay 
Area, I went out to Walnut Creek, a kind of pilgrimage.  Grant gave me the 
kind of personal attention I am certain he – and Will, and Mark, and Vince 
and all the staff – gives every visitor whether a first-timer like myself 
or a regular.

 

This week.  My grandson is just beginning to cycle – he’s been practicing 
on the flat top of a parking garage.  On Monday, I loaded my wife’s Betty 
Foy onto the roof of our car and headed over to the parking garage where 
she planned to ride with my grandson.  The entrance to the garage is on the 
top level and we drove in – or tried to.  Regrettably, there is a bar over 
the entrance that restricts the height of vehicles entering.  There was no 
sign and I did not notice the bar.  I ran into it and Betty was knocked off 
the roof.  Initially, it seemed like the most serious damage was to the 
stem.  It was bent pretty badly.  Otherwise, everything seemed like it 
could be put back together.

 

After replacing the headset, I went to install the fork.  Ughh!  The top of 
the threaded section on the steerer had broken off.  My first thought was 
to reach out to Bilenky to see whether they could remove the steerer tube 
from the fork and weld on a new one.  A lightbulb went off and some dim 
memories of RBW selling just forks suggested I reach out to see whether 
they might have a spare.  I called and spoke with Vince.  I took the 
measurements he asked for.  Within 10 minutes, he called to let me know 
they had a replacement – and to cushion the blow and lessen my guilt, it 
was already painted in Betty Foy blue with the red mustache on the fork 
crown.  Vince sent it out the same day.

 

What can I say.  What other company would even have spare forks for a 
nearly 10-year old bike, much less one that is already painted and will fit 
perfectly?  

 

RBW – and especially Vince – I remain a devoted follower!

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Ginz]

I can say that the tread pattern on my 26x2.35" is different on the one I 
just purchased vs. the one that is 5-8 years old. 

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[RBW] Susie Tire suggestions?

[David Wadstrup]

I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a 
beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels.  I'm uncertain, though, of 
which tires to choose.  I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would 
like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.)  I've been looking 
at Teravail's offerings, but don't know anyone who's personally used them. 
 Does anyone here have any firsthand knowledge?  I'm looking at either the 
Honcho or the new Kessel.  

This bike will be dedicated to riding trails.  I am not an overly 
aggressive rider, but I do want a performance oriented tire, if you know 
what I mean.  I live in the Northeast and am looking for stability and 
safety while riding sometimes muddy and wet-rooted trails.  I'm a big fan 
of Schwalbe's tires and thought the Hans Dampf would be an appropriate 2nd 
choice(or first choice?) if the Teravails weren't recommended.  But sadly, 
their new "skinwall" versions don't aesthetically appeal to me. What do 
 you think -- Tervail Honcho or Kessel or Schwalbe something or other?

Thanks for your advice!

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[RBW] WTB: your near-new tires, 700 x 40 ish

[Neil Doran]

Have any near-new tires you want to move? I need new meats for a currently 
seldom-used bike and looking to save a few bucks. Waddya got?

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Kiley Demond]

Well, I am still sizing to large. PBH is 91.5. I still need that bar as low 
as possible...

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 8:08:20 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> I think if they end up making the 55cm (aka medium frame) a little 
> "bigger" it will help give people a choice of choosing a frame with a lower 
> step-through. The recommended sizing for the current Cheviot really pushes 
> "medium" candidates to the large frame size.  The large size's step over is 
> pretty darn high as I recall.
>
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 10:55:40 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> One of the things I hoped is that the mixte tube is not, as Roberta calls 
>> it, a trip-through. As in, let’s get the tube as low as we can. Is it just 
>> me seeing what I want to see, or does the top tube appear nice and low? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Kiley Demond]

Another vote for orange although I am over my color restrictions (almost); 
the only colors I will not buy are red and black. (Sorry, Leah.)

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:28:01 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> ORANGE! ORANGE! ORANGE!
>
> That orange one looks huge. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Kiley Demond]

Well, it is now clear to me that somehow I dropped off the Riv newsletter 
distribution. I was waiting to hear about the next shipment of Clem L and 
then this comes along... I am unable to find a link to the newsletter... 
just Blogs and Blugs. Please help.. I am finally looking at getting my 
forever bike (again). I can’t believe it has been 4 years since I bought my 
Cheviot, and almost 2 years since I sold it. 

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>
> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Jim Bronson]

I decided to live with the Kwick Nine on my Clem H.  I just exert the same
effort that I would otherwise, and enjoy the scenery.

If I need to get somewhere faster, I use my Road Standard which has Compass
tires on it.

-Jim

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:20 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Though they have their fans, I've found BA's to be fairly slow and
> plodding on the few bikes I've tried them on.
>
> That said, they're worlds better than the stock Kwik Nines that come on
> the Clem. Those are particularly awful tires. Sometimes I wake up at night
> in a cold sweat, after a nightmare that I was forced to ride Kwik Nines.
>
> I recently put a Maxxiss Grifter on the back of my Jones, after the bead
> on the Schwalbe Super Moto (pre-Big One) broke. The Maxxiss seems to roll
> pretty well, and has a bit of tread.
>
> Panaracer Gravel Kings (they have smooth versions) and the Soma Supple
> tires also work well, IME.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:34 PM LeRoy  wrote:
>
>> The above question requires clarification. I’ll frame the issues in a
>> long-winded way as they pertain to my situation (since, from my point of
>> view, it’s all about me). My second- or third-hand 59 Clem Smith Jr. came
>> to me with 50mm (50-622) Schwalbe Big Apple tires (Performance Line,
>> RaceGuard, LiteSkin). Now, after about 2500 of my miles and an unknown
>> prior history, it’s time for new tires.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not a sophisticated or particularly knowledgeable judge of tires. I
>> have no depth of experience. However, I like the Big Apple’s virtues: it
>> offers a very comfortable ride, relatively low rolling resistance,
>> longevity, a good price/value relationship, and an admirable resistance to
>> flats. What’s not to like, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> But... there's always a but. Schwalbe, with the Big Apple introduction a
>> decade ago, was a pioneer in the balloon tire movement. And while there
>> have been improvements and variations in the Big Apple line, one wonders
>> what else has been developed by Schwalbe and competitors to fill the same
>> niche for comfort, easy rolling, longevity, value, and flat resistance.
>>
>>
>>
>> To further narrow the question, my riding conditions consist mainly of
>> rails-to-trails mileage, around town use on paved and gravel roads, and
>> very limited use on light-duty off-road bike trails. Although my Clem is
>> rather a heavyweight, even among Clems, with me on board we are still
>> safely below its maximum GVWR, if there is such a thing for bikes. My
>> riding days range from 10-40 miles with very occasional longer ventures. My
>> riding is more relaxed than aggressive. Knobbies and gravel tires don’t
>> seem necessary. I want comfort, easy rolling, value, durability and flat
>> resistance. Finally, I have a generalized impression that lighter tires
>> will be more satisfactory than heavier, other things being equal.
>>
>>
>>
>> To get to the point of this long story, I’m seeking advice from those
>> with more experience. I’m looking at widths from 50-55mm, *maybe* up to
>> 60mm although I have to consider fender clearance. And this will be simply
>> a choice of tires, not a tube vs. tubeless choice – I’m staying with tubes,
>> And, this is not a quest for new tire and wheel combinations. Here’s what
>> I’ve gleaned after spelunking among the archives:
>>
>>
>>
>> ·  The Big Apple is still a fine choice, but it’s no lightweight
>>
>> ·  The Schwalbe Big Ben seems to be more of everything the Big Apple
>> offers, including more weight
>>
>> ·  The Schwalbe Big One, in its several iterations, seems more
>> fragile, less durable and more costly – although its other features are
>> admirable
>>
>> ·  The Maxxis Torch 29x2.1 looks interesting, and is a good bit
>> wider – yet lighter – than Big Apples, but I haven’t seen many reviews
>>
>> ·  The Kenda tires that come standard on the Clem seem to be held in
>> low regard
>>
>> ·  Many of the highly-touted and rather costly specialist tires seem
>> more fragile and/or less long-lived than the Big Apple
>>
>>
>> The question is, what tire make and model would you recommend for my
>> combination of priorities and riding conditions? Or, should I just order
>> another set of Big  Apples and call it a day? Thanks for any insights and
>> the patience of the reader.
>>
>>
>> LeRoy
>>
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Tom Wyland]

Yes, I'm in. Now I have to decide between the sizes, since my plan all 
along was to use a set of 700c wheels, brakes, handlebars, saddle, etc that 
is on my Handsome Devil.

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Chris L]

I have the Maxxis Torch 29'ers on my Hunqapillar and the thought of 
swapping them out for the 60mm Big Apples I have hanging on the wall never 
once crossed my mind.  And I like the Big Apples.  I just like the Torch 
more.  

I can't vouch for durability because I don't put on a lot of miles and the 
miles I do ride are pretty much optimal road conditions (ie, very clean).  

Also, of the four pairs of Schwalbe tires I've owned, three had a tire with 
a wobble in it, which drives me absolutely nuts, so I'm very leery of ever 
buying a Schwalbe tire.  

I probably will eventually buy the Rene Hearse Antelope Hill or Snoqualmie 
Pass tires, just to satisfy my curiosity.  I do worry about durability and 
flat protection, even on the new Endurance models.





On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 10:34:04 PM UTC-5, LeRoy wrote:
>
>
> ·  The Maxxis Torch 29x2.1 looks interesting, and is a good bit wider 
> – yet lighter – than Big Apples, but I haven’t seen many reviews
>
> ·  The Kenda tires that come standard on the Clem seem to be held in 
> low regard
>
>
>
> The question is, what tire make and model would you recommend for my 
> combination of priorities and riding conditions? Or, should I just order 
> another set of Big  Apples and call it a day? Thanks for any insights and 
> the patience of the reader.
>
>
> LeRoy
>

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Eric Daume]

Though they have their fans, I've found BA's to be fairly slow and plodding
on the few bikes I've tried them on.

That said, they're worlds better than the stock Kwik Nines that come on the
Clem. Those are particularly awful tires. Sometimes I wake up at night in a
cold sweat, after a nightmare that I was forced to ride Kwik Nines.

I recently put a Maxxiss Grifter on the back of my Jones, after the bead on
the Schwalbe Super Moto (pre-Big One) broke. The Maxxiss seems to roll
pretty well, and has a bit of tread.

Panaracer Gravel Kings (they have smooth versions) and the Soma Supple
tires also work well, IME.

Eric

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:34 PM LeRoy  wrote:

> The above question requires clarification. I’ll frame the issues in a
> long-winded way as they pertain to my situation (since, from my point of
> view, it’s all about me). My second- or third-hand 59 Clem Smith Jr. came
> to me with 50mm (50-622) Schwalbe Big Apple tires (Performance Line,
> RaceGuard, LiteSkin). Now, after about 2500 of my miles and an unknown
> prior history, it’s time for new tires.
>
>
>
> I am not a sophisticated or particularly knowledgeable judge of tires. I
> have no depth of experience. However, I like the Big Apple’s virtues: it
> offers a very comfortable ride, relatively low rolling resistance,
> longevity, a good price/value relationship, and an admirable resistance to
> flats. What’s not to like, right?
>
>
>
> But... there's always a but. Schwalbe, with the Big Apple introduction a
> decade ago, was a pioneer in the balloon tire movement. And while there
> have been improvements and variations in the Big Apple line, one wonders
> what else has been developed by Schwalbe and competitors to fill the same
> niche for comfort, easy rolling, longevity, value, and flat resistance.
>
>
>
> To further narrow the question, my riding conditions consist mainly of
> rails-to-trails mileage, around town use on paved and gravel roads, and
> very limited use on light-duty off-road bike trails. Although my Clem is
> rather a heavyweight, even among Clems, with me on board we are still
> safely below its maximum GVWR, if there is such a thing for bikes. My
> riding days range from 10-40 miles with very occasional longer ventures. My
> riding is more relaxed than aggressive. Knobbies and gravel tires don’t
> seem necessary. I want comfort, easy rolling, value, durability and flat
> resistance. Finally, I have a generalized impression that lighter tires
> will be more satisfactory than heavier, other things being equal.
>
>
>
> To get to the point of this long story, I’m seeking advice from those with
> more experience. I’m looking at widths from 50-55mm, *maybe* up to 60mm
> although I have to consider fender clearance. And this will be simply a
> choice of tires, not a tube vs. tubeless choice – I’m staying with tubes,
> And, this is not a quest for new tire and wheel combinations. Here’s what
> I’ve gleaned after spelunking among the archives:
>
>
>
> ·  The Big Apple is still a fine choice, but it’s no lightweight
>
> ·  The Schwalbe Big Ben seems to be more of everything the Big Apple
> offers, including more weight
>
> ·  The Schwalbe Big One, in its several iterations, seems more
> fragile, less durable and more costly – although its other features are
> admirable
>
> ·  The Maxxis Torch 29x2.1 looks interesting, and is a good bit wider
> – yet lighter – than Big Apples, but I haven’t seen many reviews
>
> ·  The Kenda tires that come standard on the Clem seem to be held in
> low regard
>
> ·  Many of the highly-touted and rather costly specialist tires seem
> more fragile and/or less long-lived than the Big Apple
>
>
> The question is, what tire make and model would you recommend for my
> combination of priorities and riding conditions? Or, should I just order
> another set of Big  Apples and call it a day? Thanks for any insights and
> the patience of the reader.
>
>
> LeRoy
>
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[RBW] Re: Amusing PSA: Mustard Clem frame

[masmojo]

Gravel Peterson!!??! BRILLIANT!

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[RBW] Re: Why I went Tubeless

[masmojo]

The hole is right on the bead where it contacts the rim. I am actually going to 
try and fix it, because I like the tire and I  can't find ones like it anymore. 

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[RBW] Re: Seen on the road: A fire engine red Rivendell step through

[masmojo]

I imagine that the one that was for sale on Craigslist.  One size too small for 
Leah; I  came close to buying it myself, but I ride the same size she does. 😕
Probably,  would have still bought it, but first a tornado blew some trees down 
in my yard then I got laid off. Sounds like it went to a good home. 
But, with no pictures,  did it ever really happen?

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe’s Big Apple is a 10-year old tire design. What’s a newer/better alternative?

[Nick Payne]

I just installed a Schwalbe Marathon Almotion 700x55 on a rear wheel. It 
hasn't been there long enough to offer any option on longevity, but it 
seems pretty tough, well made, was easy to install (I didn't need tyre 
levers), has no perceptible wobble or runout once inflated, and from what 
I've read, the rolling resistance is pretty low. The sizing is pretty 
spot-on as well - it measured 54mm when first inflated, which means that 
after a couple of weeks it probably is a genuine 55mm. As a rear, I run it 
at 35psi, which seems about right.

Schwalbe make this model in a couple of different versions - this one says 
"Evolution TLE" on the sidewall, which I think means their best casing and 
that it can be run tubeless, though I'm using it with a Maxxis ultralight 
tube.

https://www.schwalbe.com/en/tour-reader/marathon-almotion

Nick

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