Re: [RBW] Re: FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[Alex Wirth]

> Hi Michael, my assumption was they were tie-down points for
>> bungees/straps/bags.  Someone might have a better answer though
>>
> M

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[RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[ascpgh]

Jason,

That's fantastic. Your pictures are great, they really convey the ride and 
the day. You may have lost sight of your tan sidewalls but have probably 
never been clearer on why you have fenders on your bike!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 9:52:11 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> A friend wanted to ride 100 km yesterday, so I suggested a route which 
> involved a pretty unreasonable amount of climbing but incredible views and 
> lots of mixed surfaces and time away from cars.  It was a blast. My tan 
> wall tires are no longer tan whatsoever. 
>
> [image: PXL_20210220_235438303.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Bizarre Winter Weather

[ascpgh]

As a once frequent traveler through the panhandle on highways 385/87, 
leaving I-40  at Vega on a hypotenuse of it and I-25 en route to Mineral 
County, Colorado via Raton, NM. The conga line of Texas tagged RVs was 
always amazing, but so were the delays of travel.

https://goo.gl/maps/ThVi7DCXgmNGqe9g8

My roommate's family has had a cabin in Spar City, CO, outside Creede for 
over a century and laments the development, proliferation and financial 
devices propagating sales of the huge class A Greyhound-worthy, RVs. They'd 
flow out of Texas in late winter when we used that route to avoid heavy 
weather up on I-70 on their way to park at all the nice campsites and 
fishing locations for the rest of summer, retreating back to Texas in their 
car being towed and (partially) holding their headway to 50 MPH. Had to 
plan when reaching that route since it was at the eight hour mark of the 15 
hour drive.

Diaspora always seem to be seen critically, they upset the norm.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:37:25 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> There's an old saying;
>
> "If God had meant Texans to ski he would have given them snow"
>
> To which the Texans reply
>
> "If God had meant Coloradans to ski he would have given them money"
>
> Those CA transplants got a shock last week! But I'm all for them, together 
> we can turn this state blue.
>
> Riding sucks here though, between a distinct lack of scenery, bubbas in 
> their Tonka Toys & brutal summers it's not exactly SoCal. I always wanted 
> to tell Grant when he was on a lycra rant, dude try riding in Texas in July 
> in cotton!
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-6 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> Lots of CA companies are moving to TX to flee the over regulation and 
>> high taxes here. My nephew is one of the CA transplants now living there. 
>> He’s in Flower Mound just outside of Dallas.
>>
>> A friend in CO says that lots of Texans are moving into his area outside 
>> of Denver. So Texans are on the move too.
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> In San Diego, CA where it’s sunny and warm despite the fact that it’s 
>> February
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I'm glad things are warming up. It's sad to hear of such massive and 
>> rapid growth. Albuquerque is fortunately in far less demand as a place for 
>> outsiders to move to, but it has still grown tremendously in the last 20 
>> years -- we're almost 45% bigger than when I arrived in 1989. I wonder if 
>> Zoom-type work arrangements will mean a reversal of this gravitational 
>> trend toward huge urban spraws.
>>
>> Hope to visit some friends in Ft Worth in May, so I'll be able to see the 
>> area for myself.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:50 AM True Golden  wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, 
>>>
>>> My area, not for from the northern portion of Dallas County, got around 
>>> 4 to 5 inches of snow one day and then around another inch 2 days later I 
>>> think it was.
>>>
>>> It's a massive state. 
>>> The Panhandle and northern parts tend to have more snow and colder temps 
>>> over the typical winters.
>>>
>>> The further south you go typically multiple inches of snow is more rare 
>>> although it does happen.
>>>
>>> Our previous record was 11 inches 10 years ago in 2011 also in February.
>>> I distinctly remember that storm.
>>>
>>> The reports I saw showed even the Houston area received several inches 
>>> last week.
>>>
>>> My understanding was it wasn't the amount of snow but the week-long 
>>> frigid temps and loss of power to several million causing so many problems. 
>>>
>>> Typically when we get snow a day or two later it's all melted with 
>>> increasing temps.
>>>
>>> It's a running joke about Texas weather as Phillip alluded to that if 
>>> you don't like it wait a day or two and it will change.
>>>
>>> My wife and I rode at 70 degrees yesterday.  I was in short sleeves.
>>>
>>> Plus with the rarity of snow and ice many here are terrible drivers on 
>>> roads with either snow or ice.
>>>
>>> There seems to me to be many aggressive drivers not allowing for road 
>>> conditions.
>>>
>>> Also the greater Dallas-Ft Worth area
>>> is growing phenomenally with ever increasing traffic and demands on the 
>>> power grid and water resources.
>>>
>>> Reports indicate the area is nearing 8 million population if it hasn't 
>>> already surpassed it.
>>>
>>> Other cities like Austin, San Antonio and Houston are also experiencing 
>>> such growth.
>>>
>>> I was very blessed to not loose power but know many did including two of 
>>> my nieces and a good friend. 
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>> Who perhaps within a couple years may become Paul in rural Texas. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks C19

[Justin Kennedy]

Thanks! I’ll check this out.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:21 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those jerks. Here, Justin, get Nutfix! They won’t be stealing your saddle
> again; this little nut is weightless and DEAD effective.. I have these on
> our Rivs’ seat posts and saddles...
> https://hexlox.com/
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 5:56:14 AM UTC-8 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> My Brooks C19 got swiped from my Xtracycle over the weekend (just the
>> saddle, not the post which is Pitlock'd). Anyone have one sitting around
>> they'd be up for selling? Dug out my old Abus saddle lock so this won't
>> happen again...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Justin.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Tom Wyland]

I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if I’m 
not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed for 
this purpose.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames and 
> releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how laissez 
> faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 

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[RBW] I decided to ditch LOSCO

[James Valiensi]

I left him by the creek….
Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
Albatross handle bars.
I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 

I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm Nitto 
FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp diameter 
is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will not flex as 
much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach is 
slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
straighter. 

Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and if 
you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds.

I will post a photo when the parts get put on.

The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and there 
is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a month and 
never see the kind of stuff posted here.

I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the car 
rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent the next 
20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 

Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ultradynamico CAVA Robusto 700c x 42 $100

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

SOLD. 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:38:43 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Low mileage, gently used Ultradynamico CAVA Robusto 700c x 42 tires. $115 
> shipped or $100 local pickup in NYC. 
>
> [image: ultra.jpg][image: ultra-2.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Ray]

Some more blue lug content. Noticed they posted a Platypus album to their 
Flickr: https://flic.kr/ps/93Rbw

Ray

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 6:17:11 AM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:

> I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if I’m 
> not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
> grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
> technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed for 
> this purpose.
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames and 
>> releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how laissez 
>> faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT Grilver 59 Clem H Frameset or partial build/parts

[Brendan Willard in SF]

F/F/HS/SP - SOLD.  
Paul stuff - SOLD 
XT Brakes - SOLD

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 7:30:19 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> Update: F/F/HS/SP still available to local buyers.  
>
> Brendan in SF
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 8:39:39 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
> wrote:
>
>> Sale pending for F/f/hs/sp and Paul bits.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 4:39:50 AM UTC-8 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PM sent on frame+parts
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:33:33 AM UTC-6 Brendan Willard in SF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I though I might be able to make the 59 work, but it's just too big for 
 me.

 I'd really love to trade for a mustard 52, but i'm open to other 
 framesets to fit my 86cm PBH.

 F/F/HS/SP $500 - Like new.
 LX to Synergy wheelset with either Big Bens or 50mm Gravel Kings and a 
 cassette + $225
 Losco or Tosco + $60
 XO1 11 speed RD, shifter, Raceface 30t cranks w BB and 11-46 cassette + 
 $250
 XT Linear pull F/R brakes + $50
 Gold Paul Motolites + $190
 Black/Silver Paul Lover levers + $100

 I have a new Sugino XD2 double and triple, older XT triple,  various 
 FD/RDs.  I'll update as I remember more...

 I'm not interested in shipping the frame right now.

 Brendan in SF

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bizarre Winter Weather

[George Schick]

But Philip, how about those fine scotch distilleries on that island of Skye?


On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:08:26 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Our 2nd home (slowly transitioning to 1st) is the Isle of Skye, part of 
> the Scottish Hebridean islands. Every summer we are invaded by RVs (camper 
> vans & caravans in UK parlance) from all over Europe, many exhibiting some 
> of the worst driving & parking skills and ill considered GPS routing on our 
> largely tiny single track roads. It's a double-edged sword of course as 
> these people also bring huge economic benefits to an area where employment 
> options are limited and traditional crofting (small hold farming) is a 
> picturesque but hard way to make a living. Thankfully it's about 8 weeks of 
> hell then we get our beautiful island back to ourselves where you can ride 
> for hours with just you & the sheep.
>
> [image: 192235810.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:20:27 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> As a once frequent traveler through the panhandle on highways 385/87, 
>> leaving I-40  at Vega on a hypotenuse of it and I-25 en route to Mineral 
>> County, Colorado via Raton, NM. The conga line of Texas tagged RVs was 
>> always amazing, but so were the delays of travel.
>>
>> https://goo.gl/maps/ThVi7DCXgmNGqe9g8
>>
>> My roommate's family has had a cabin in Spar City, CO, outside Creede for 
>> over a century and laments the development, proliferation and financial 
>> devices propagating sales of the huge class A Greyhound-worthy, RVs. They'd 
>> flow out of Texas in late winter when we used that route to avoid heavy 
>> weather up on I-70 on their way to park at all the nice campsites and 
>> fishing locations for the rest of summer, retreating back to Texas in their 
>> car being towed and (partially) holding their headway to 50 MPH. Had to 
>> plan when reaching that route since it was at the eight hour mark of the 15 
>> hour drive.
>>
>> Diaspora always seem to be seen critically, they upset the norm.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:37:25 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's an old saying;
>>>
>>> "If God had meant Texans to ski he would have given them snow"
>>>
>>> To which the Texans reply
>>>
>>> "If God had meant Coloradans to ski he would have given them money"
>>>
>>> Those CA transplants got a shock last week! But I'm all for them, 
>>> together we can turn this state blue.
>>>
>>> Riding sucks here though, between a distinct lack of scenery, bubbas in 
>>> their Tonka Toys & brutal summers it's not exactly SoCal. I always wanted 
>>> to tell Grant when he was on a lycra rant, dude try riding in Texas in July 
>>> in cotton!
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-6 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
 Lots of CA companies are moving to TX to flee the over regulation and 
 high taxes here. My nephew is one of the CA transplants now living there. 
 He’s in Flower Mound just outside of Dallas.

 A friend in CO says that lots of Texans are moving into his area 
 outside of Denver. So Texans are on the move too.

 Robert Tilley
 In San Diego, CA where it’s sunny and warm despite the fact that it’s 
 February

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

 

 I'm glad things are warming up. It's sad to hear of such massive and 
 rapid growth. Albuquerque is fortunately in far less demand as a place for 
 outsiders to move to, but it has still grown tremendously in the last 20 
 years -- we're almost 45% bigger than when I arrived in 1989. I wonder if 
 Zoom-type work arrangements will mean a reversal of this gravitational 
 trend toward huge urban spraws.

 Hope to visit some friends in Ft Worth in May, so I'll be able to see 
 the area for myself.

 On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:50 AM True Golden  wrote:

> Patrick, 
>
> My area, not for from the northern portion of Dallas County, got 
> around 4 to 5 inches of snow one day and then around another inch 2 days 
> later I think it was.
>
> It's a massive state. 
> The Panhandle and northern parts tend to have more snow and colder 
> temps over the typical winters.
>
> The further south you go typically multiple inches of snow is more 
> rare although it does happen.
>
> Our previous record was 11 inches 10 years ago in 2011 also in 
> February.
> I distinctly remember that storm.
>
> The reports I saw showed even the Houston area received several inches 
> last week.
>
> My understanding was it wasn't the amount of snow but the week-long 
> frigid temps and loss of power to several million causing so many 
> problems. 
>
> Typically when we get snow a day or two later it's all melted with 
> increasing temps.
>
> It's a running joke about Texas weather as Phi

Re: [RBW] Bizarre Winter Weather

[Philip Barrett]

Funny you should mention that as, until last week, Talisker were the only 
distillery on the Island producing whisky but we just got exciting news on 
our 2nd operation (took only 190 years to come) who they released their 1st 
batch on Friday. Luckily I have a friend close by who is picking me up a 
bottle - https://www.torabhaig.com/

Call me biased (because I am) but Talisker's product is superb, especially 
their lower cost Storm which is readily available in the former colonies. 
It will be a post-COVID world before I can taste the new boys in town, 
something to look forward too at least.

[image: Torbhaig-bottle.jpg]

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 9:47:10 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> But Philip, how about those fine scotch distilleries on that island of 
> Skye?
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 8:08:26 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Our 2nd home (slowly transitioning to 1st) is the Isle of Skye, part of 
>> the Scottish Hebridean islands. Every summer we are invaded by RVs (camper 
>> vans & caravans in UK parlance) from all over Europe, many exhibiting some 
>> of the worst driving & parking skills and ill considered GPS routing on our 
>> largely tiny single track roads. It's a double-edged sword of course as 
>> these people also bring huge economic benefits to an area where employment 
>> options are limited and traditional crofting (small hold farming) is a 
>> picturesque but hard way to make a living. Thankfully it's about 8 weeks of 
>> hell then we get our beautiful island back to ourselves where you can ride 
>> for hours with just you & the sheep.
>>
>> [image: 192235810.jpg]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:20:27 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> As a once frequent traveler through the panhandle on highways 385/87, 
>>> leaving I-40  at Vega on a hypotenuse of it and I-25 en route to Mineral 
>>> County, Colorado via Raton, NM. The conga line of Texas tagged RVs was 
>>> always amazing, but so were the delays of travel.
>>>
>>> https://goo.gl/maps/ThVi7DCXgmNGqe9g8
>>>
>>> My roommate's family has had a cabin in Spar City, CO, outside Creede 
>>> for over a century and laments the development, proliferation and financial 
>>> devices propagating sales of the huge class A Greyhound-worthy, RVs. They'd 
>>> flow out of Texas in late winter when we used that route to avoid heavy 
>>> weather up on I-70 on their way to park at all the nice campsites and 
>>> fishing locations for the rest of summer, retreating back to Texas in their 
>>> car being towed and (partially) holding their headway to 50 MPH. Had to 
>>> plan when reaching that route since it was at the eight hour mark of the 15 
>>> hour drive.
>>>
>>> Diaspora always seem to be seen critically, they upset the norm.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:37:25 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There's an old saying;

 "If God had meant Texans to ski he would have given them snow"

 To which the Texans reply

 "If God had meant Coloradans to ski he would have given them money"

 Those CA transplants got a shock last week! But I'm all for them, 
 together we can turn this state blue.

 Riding sucks here though, between a distinct lack of scenery, bubbas in 
 their Tonka Toys & brutal summers it's not exactly SoCal. I always wanted 
 to tell Grant when he was on a lycra rant, dude try riding in Texas in 
 July 
 in cotton!

 On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:27:00 PM UTC-6 Robert Tilley wrote:

> Lots of CA companies are moving to TX to flee the over regulation and 
> high taxes here. My nephew is one of the CA transplants now living there. 
> He’s in Flower Mound just outside of Dallas.
>
> A friend in CO says that lots of Texans are moving into his area 
> outside of Denver. So Texans are on the move too.
>
> Robert Tilley
> In San Diego, CA where it’s sunny and warm despite the fact that it’s 
> February
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:47 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'm glad things are warming up. It's sad to hear of such massive and 
> rapid growth. Albuquerque is fortunately in far less demand as a place 
> for 
> outsiders to move to, but it has still grown tremendously in the last 20 
> years -- we're almost 45% bigger than when I arrived in 1989. I wonder if 
> Zoom-type work arrangements will mean a reversal of this gravitational 
> trend toward huge urban spraws.
>
> Hope to visit some friends in Ft Worth in May, so I'll be able to see 
> the area for myself.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:50 AM True Golden  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, 
>>
>> My area, not for from the northern portion of Dallas County, got 
>> around 4 to 5 inches of snow one day and then around another inch 2 days 
>> later I think it was.
>>
>

[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Brett Callahan]

James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with the 
Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be too 
flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on a 
slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 

Brett in PDX

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> I left him by the creek….
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars.
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
>
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and 
> if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds.
>
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on.
>
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here.
>
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>
> Cheers!

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Mark Roland]

Rivendell used to do presales, not so much with bicycles any more. I would 
imagine there may have been some issues for the company to do 
presales--maybe too many people backing out? Who knows, but  a lot of small 
batch companies are doing it this way, from bag makers to niche 
manufacturers like Crust and Black Mountain Cycles. So it's probably the 
fairest way and maybe the only way they can do it and still remain viable. 
And if they are not viable, nobody gets one. Frustrating, but they do give 
a decent heads-up, better than scheduling an appointment with the cable guy.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 7:17:11 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if I’m 
> not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
> grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
> technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed for 
> this purpose.
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames and 
>> releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how laissez 
>> faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Ride for Fun]

>From Taiwan to Japan is a lot faster & easier than to the US.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:08 AM Michael Baquerizo 
wrote:

> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames and
> releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how laissez
> faire Grant is and all, but still wild.
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-5 BrettG wrote:
>
>> New bluelug shop tour video shows the limolive frame:
>> https://youtu.be/Jr9PZtHnYUg?t=1220
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 5:55:40 AM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For those wanting to keep tabs on the shipment:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/YM-UNICORN-IMO-9462732-MMSI-416464000
>>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 6:45:51 PM UTC-6 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>
 Will sent out an email a little over an hour ago detailing items back
 in stock, things of interest and goings on at RBW.
 He included this comment:
 "Our next batch [of Sams], coming on the *YM Unicorn* with the
 Platypus frames is delayed 17 days because of bad weather and 'berth
 congestion'."

 On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:48:16 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> If I understood correctly it has to do with unusual weather and
> shipping containers at the port, a lack of "parking spaces" more or less?
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 1:30:40 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Jared, did Vince say why?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> Sigh is right, David.
>>
>>
>> Spoke with Vince yesterday, he did indeed say mid-March ETA.
>>
>> Hopefully that gives more people time to get funds together to help
>> support an amazing company and get a killer bike in the process.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 12:00:46 PM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> And, now, I see that the Platypus page says ETA of “mid-March!”
>>> 
>>> David Lipsky
>>> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be
 your turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or 
 so
 the Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and 
 how
 each one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas
 present? Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. 
 What do
 you have in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler?
 Errands?

 You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and
 very capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If 
 you’re
 on Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use:
 #rbwplatypus.

 Happy New Year!
 Leah

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stick

[Jobbing Drummer]

Try a birch dowel from any hardware store.

Use your eyes to judge a proper diameter. Cut it down to a suitable length 
and drill a hole for screw/fastener if necessary.
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:09:32 AM UTC-5 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> If anyone has one of these they'd like to sell I'd be happy to buy it.  I 
> know they're pretty obscure but maybe someone has one stashed away.  Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Bleriot and 52cm Clem

[Ryan Nute]

Clem sold and coming home to SF, Bleriot still available!

Ryan

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 10:08:58 PM UTC-8 Ryan Nute wrote:

> Hi everyone: These are two great bikes but I have too many (and am 
> considering an expensive musical instrument, so looking for dough under the 
> couch cushions).  Let me know if you're interested in either of these.  I 
> thought I'd spare you the description text by linking the CL ads below.  
> Prices exclusive of Shipbikes.com shipping or you can pick up near Seattle.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ryan
>
> 1.  Bleriot: $1600
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-bleriot-protovelo/7281402581.html
>
> 2.  Clem Smith Jr.: $1250
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-52cm-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7281407780.html
>
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stick

[Dave S]

The Stickpack was the backpack, I think.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-5 Jobbing Drummer wrote:

> Try a birch dowel from any hardware store.
>
> Use your eyes to judge a proper diameter. Cut it down to a suitable length 
> and drill a hole for screw/fastener if necessary.
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:09:32 AM UTC-5 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> If anyone has one of these they'd like to sell I'd be happy to buy it.  I 
>> know they're pretty obscure but maybe someone has one stashed away.  Thanks.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadini and Ritchey Ascent

['hobie' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Is the Ritchey Ascent still for sale? What size is it? Thanks

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:27:13 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> The Roadini has been sold.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> - 61cm Rivendell Roadini, complete bike with 1x8 drivetrain, 38mm Gravel 
>> King tires, $975
>>
>> - Ritchey Ascent gravel bike, 650b x 48mm Gravel King tires, hydraulic 
>> brakes, Jones loop bar, $1250 OBO
>>
>> More pictures and build details are here:
>> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html
>>
>> Shipping not included from Central Ohio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City, OH
>> [image: IMG_3103.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_3118.JPG]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadini and Ritchey Ascent

['hobie' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Is the Ritchey Ascent still for sale? What size is it? Thanks

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:27:13 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> The Roadini has been sold.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> - 61cm Rivendell Roadini, complete bike with 1x8 drivetrain, 38mm Gravel 
>> King tires, $975
>>
>> - Ritchey Ascent gravel bike, 650b x 48mm Gravel King tires, hydraulic 
>> brakes, Jones loop bar, $1250 OBO
>>
>> More pictures and build details are here:
>> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html
>>
>> Shipping not included from Central Ohio.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City, OH
>> [image: IMG_3103.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_3118.JPG]
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

How the heck did you find a Unicorn Platypus pin?? You need to send that 
pic to Grant, he'll be over the moon!



On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 9:08:14 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ray, SO glad you posted that. I screen shot several of those pics. My 
> mom’s neighbor is ordering a 50 cm in blue and she can see what hers will 
> look like now! 
>
> ALSO: Today the Unicorn lists itself as in port at LA They’re here
>
> And because I saw this, and because of the correlation of Unicorn and 
> Platypus, I got this pin for my Saddlesack for my Platy:
>
> Let the madness begin!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Ray  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Some more blue lug content. Noticed they posted a Platypus album to their 
> Flickr: https://flic.kr/ps/93Rbw
>
> Ray
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 6:17:11 AM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if 
>> I’m not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
>> grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
>> technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed for 
>> this purpose.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames 
>>> and releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how 
>>> laissez faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadini and Ritchey Ascent

[Eric Daume]

Sold long ago.

Eric

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 'hobie' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Is the Ritchey Ascent still for sale? What size is it? Thanks
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:27:13 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> The Roadini has been sold.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> - 61cm Rivendell Roadini, complete bike with 1x8 drivetrain, 38mm Gravel
>>> King tires, $975
>>>
>>> - Ritchey Ascent gravel bike, 650b x 48mm Gravel King tires, hydraulic
>>> brakes, Jones loop bar, $1250 OBO
>>>
>>> More pictures and build details are here:
>>> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html
>>>
>>> Shipping not included from Central Ohio.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Plain City, OH
>>> [image: IMG_3103.JPG]
>>> [image: IMG_3118.JPG]
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadini and Ritchey Ascent

[Jay John]

Do you know the size?

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:16 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

> Sold long ago.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 'hobie' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the Ritchey Ascent still for sale? What size is it? Thanks
>>
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 9:27:13 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> The Roadini has been sold.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
 - 61cm Rivendell Roadini, complete bike with 1x8 drivetrain, 38mm
 Gravel King tires, $975

 - Ritchey Ascent gravel bike, 650b x 48mm Gravel King tires, hydraulic
 brakes, Jones loop bar, $1250 OBO

 More pictures and build details are here:
 https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html

 Shipping not included from Central Ohio.

 Thanks,

 Eric
 Plain City, OH
 [image: IMG_3103.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Roberta]

James and Brett.

I got a LOSCO from a forum member for my soon (where soon is defined as 
sometime this spring) to be Platypus.  Now I'm a bit nervous.  Is it that 
you ride your bikes "rougher and heavier" that makes the difference?  What 
about someone like me who will just go riding around town,  with some "as 
fast as I can go" rides, and only a handlebar bag (Carradice Zipped Roll) 
up front?

Roberta

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with 
> the Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be 
> too flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on 
> a slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
> especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
> Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 
>
> Brett in PDX
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> I left him by the creek…. 
>> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked 
>> the upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it 
>> has Albatross handle bars. 
>> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
>> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>>
>> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
>> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
>> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
>> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
>> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
>> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
>> straighter. 
>>
>> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions 
>> and if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
>>
>> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
>>
>> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
>> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
>> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
>>
>> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
>> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
>> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[James Valiensi]

I notice the flex from normal riding. I do not ride “loaded” other than my fat 
ass. I’m not sure how a loaded bike would impart more force to the handle bar, 
if loads are not placed on the bar.
Hit a few bumps and I feel it moving. I have the longest Nitto forged stem I 
could get (130mm) That may contribute to it. But the Joe A has the same stem 
and with the Albatross it does not flex. But perhaps more of the stem is in the 
steerer tube.
I’ve done a few hundred happy miles with the LOSCO and I just decided to 
change. 

I’d say try it, you may like it. 

> On Feb 23, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> James and Brett.
> 
> I got a LOSCO from a forum member for my soon (where soon is defined as 
> sometime this spring) to be Platypus.  Now I'm a bit nervous.  Is it that you 
> ride your bikes "rougher and heavier" that makes the difference?  What about 
> someone like me who will just go riding around town,  with some "as fast as I 
> can go" rides, and only a handlebar bag (Carradice Zipped Roll) up front?
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:
> James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with the 
> Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be too 
> flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on a 
> slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
> especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or Toscos 
> on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 
> 
> Brett in PDX
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
> I left him by the creek…. 
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars. 
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
> 
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm Nitto 
> FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp diameter 
> is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will not flex 
> as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach is 
> slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
> 
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and if 
> you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
> 
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
> 
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
> 
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the car 
> rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent the next 
> 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
> 
> Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Joe Bernard]

Roberta,

One person's "too flexy" is another person's "absorbs some road vibration", 
I wouldn't worry too much. I didn't notice any difference in stiffness feel 
between it and the Boscos I ride. 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:01:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> James and Brett.
>
> I got a LOSCO from a forum member for my soon (where soon is defined as 
> sometime this spring) to be Platypus.  Now I'm a bit nervous.  Is it that 
> you ride your bikes "rougher and heavier" that makes the difference?  What 
> about someone like me who will just go riding around town,  with some "as 
> fast as I can go" rides, and only a handlebar bag (Carradice Zipped Roll) 
> up front?
>
> Roberta
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with 
>> the Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be 
>> too flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on 
>> a slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
>> especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
>> Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 
>>
>> Brett in PDX
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>>
>>> I left him by the creek…. 
>>> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked 
>>> the upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it 
>>> has Albatross handle bars. 
>>> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
>>> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>>>
>>> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
>>> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
>>> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
>>> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
>>> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
>>> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
>>> straighter. 
>>>
>>> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions 
>>> and if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
>>>
>>> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
>>>
>>> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area 
>>> and there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday 
>>> for a month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
>>>
>>> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
>>> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
>>> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I got Grant a more manly version. And I’m having cards made with my bikes on 
them, and under each photo is a cycling quote. I quoted him! So, when those 
come, I’ll send his PlatyPin along with it. It’s made in France from pewter! 
I’m glad he doesn’t read the List - don’t any of you squeal.
L

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> How the heck did you find a Unicorn Platypus pin?? You need to send that pic 
> to Grant, he'll be over the moon!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 9:08:14 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Ray, SO glad you posted that. I screen shot several of those pics. My mom’s 
>> neighbor is ordering a 50 cm in blue and she can see what hers will look 
>> like now! 
>> 
>> ALSO: Today the Unicorn lists itself as in port at LA They’re here
>> 
>> And because I saw this, and because of the correlation of Unicorn and 
>> Platypus, I got this pin for my Saddlesack for my Platy:
>> 
>> 
>> Let the madness begin!
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
 On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Ray  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Some more blue lug content. Noticed they posted a Platypus album to their 
>>> Flickr: https://flic.kr/ps/93Rbw
>>> 
>>> Ray
>>> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 6:17:11 AM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:
> I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if 
> I’m not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
> grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
> technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed 
> for this purpose.
> 
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo 
>> wrote:
>> As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames 
>> and releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how 
>> laissez faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
 
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[RBW] FS - two Brooks Cambium C-17 saddles

[Neil Doran]

Two saddles, both in as-new condition.
- The original C17 (with metal seat loops) in slate color.
- The newer C-17 carved (all weather edition in black).

Each one is $75 shipped CONUS, or name a fair price and let's go from there.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

"don’t any of you squeal"

I know nothing! Which is true just in general! 🤪

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:37:28 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I got Grant a more manly version. And I’m having cards made with my bikes 
> on them, and under each photo is a cycling quote. I quoted him! So, when 
> those come, I’ll send his PlatyPin along with it. It’s made in France from 
> pewter! I’m glad he doesn’t read the List - don’t any of you squeal.
> L
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 23, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> How the heck did you find a Unicorn Platypus pin?? You need to send that 
> pic to Grant, he'll be over the moon!
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 9:08:14 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ray, SO glad you posted that. I screen shot several of those pics. My 
>> mom’s neighbor is ordering a 50 cm in blue and she can see what hers will 
>> look like now! 
>>
>> ALSO: Today the Unicorn lists itself as in port at LA They’re here
>>
>> And because I saw this, and because of the correlation of Unicorn and 
>> Platypus, I got this pin for my Saddlesack for my Platy:
>>
>> Let the madness begin!
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Ray  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Some more blue lug content. Noticed they posted a Platypus album to their 
>> Flickr: https://flic.kr/ps/93Rbw
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 6:17:11 AM UTC-6 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> I would have plunked down a deposit last fall for one of these, but if 
>>> I’m not in front of my computer for the right hour next month I may miss 
>>> grabbing the inventory they ordered.  That also seems wrong. There are 
>>> technology mechanisms like Kickstarter and pre-Sales that are designed for 
>>> this purpose.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:08:37 AM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As a product person - it's wild that Blue Lug is getting these frames 
 and releasing them into the wild before Riv has a chance to. I know how 
 laissez faire Grant is and all, but still wild. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[James Valiensi]

Its like toe-clip overlap - its no big deal, unless it kills you...

> On Feb 23, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Roberta,
> 
> One person's "too flexy" is another person's "absorbs some road vibration", I 
> wouldn't worry too much. I didn't notice any difference in stiffness feel 
> between it and the Boscos I ride. 
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:01:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
> James and Brett.
> 
> I got a LOSCO from a forum member for my soon (where soon is defined as 
> sometime this spring) to be Platypus.  Now I'm a bit nervous.  Is it that you 
> ride your bikes "rougher and heavier" that makes the difference?  What about 
> someone like me who will just go riding around town,  with some "as fast as I 
> can go" rides, and only a handlebar bag (Carradice Zipped Roll) up front?
> 
> Roberta
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with the 
> Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be too 
> flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on a 
> slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
> especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or Toscos 
> on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 
> 
> Brett in PDX
> 
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
> I left him by the creek…. 
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars. 
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
> 
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm Nitto 
> FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp diameter 
> is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will not flex 
> as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach is 
> slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
> 
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and if 
> you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
> 
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
> 
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
> 
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the car 
> rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent the next 
> 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
> 
> Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: FS - two Brooks Cambium C-17 saddles

[Neil Doran]

And sold! Thanks Ben, I'll get 'em in the post tomorrow.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:38:11 PM UTC-8 Neil Doran wrote:

> Two saddles, both in as-new condition.
> - The original C17 (with metal seat loops) in slate color.
> - The newer C-17 carved (all weather edition in black).
>
> Each one is $75 shipped CONUS, or name a fair price and let's go from 
> there.
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[spencer robinson]

I agree with Joe, I think you will like them Roberta. 

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 4:30:59 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Roberta,
>
> One person's "too flexy" is another person's "absorbs some road 
> vibration", I wouldn't worry too much. I didn't notice any difference in 
> stiffness feel between it and the Boscos I ride. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:01:03 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
>> James and Brett.
>>
>> I got a LOSCO from a forum member for my soon (where soon is defined as 
>> sometime this spring) to be Platypus.  Now I'm a bit nervous.  Is it that 
>> you ride your bikes "rougher and heavier" that makes the difference?  What 
>> about someone like me who will just go riding around town,  with some "as 
>> fast as I can go" rides, and only a handlebar bag (Carradice Zipped Roll) 
>> up front?
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 11:48:31 AM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> James, your experience with the Losco was similar to my experience with 
>>> the Billie bars. I found the Billie's and an 11CM stem on my Atlantis to be 
>>> too flexy when carrying a load. I ended up going back to albatross bars on 
>>> a slightly shorter stem. A little flex was fine, but it was just too much, 
>>> especially on a heavy bike. I've been tempted to try out the Loscos or 
>>> Toscos on a lighter bike where I don't carry a front load. 
>>>
>>> Brett in PDX
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>>>
 I left him by the creek…. 
 Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked 
 the upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it 
 has Albatross handle bars. 
 I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they 
 were flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 

 I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
 Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
 diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars 
 will 
 not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
 I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The 
 reach is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper 
 body straighter. 

 Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions 
 and if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 

 I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 

 The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area 
 and there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday 
 for a month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 

 I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
 car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
 the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 

 Cheers!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

   Never tried the Losco bars, but I liked the stiffness of the bullmoose 
bosco bars, and not the flex of the regular bosco bars, especially when 
pedaling standing up out the saddle, and both versions made for a very 
cramped cockpit. But then I'm most comfortable on my Hunqapillar with a 
long stem and a the Nitto lugged seat post.

And when I have a front load, I found bars with a grip closer to the load 
makes for easier handling, like my albatross bars on a 12cm long stem 
gripped up near the curves, but YMMV cause everyone's different.

John

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[RBW] Anyone missing a Romulus in So Cal?

[Jim M.]

https://offerup.com/item/detail/1068335445/
Ad smells a bit funny, but you do get a "500 doller headset".

Also this ad: https://offerup.com/item/detail/1068335445/
which offers "Fully Loaded With Campanaro italian Parts"

jim m
walnut creek, ca

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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Roberta]

All very interesting.  I'm going to start with the Losco's first since 
there's more real estate on that bar.  

I have an Albatross bar on my Homer and love it!  So, I put one on my Joe A 
and really disliked it!  I swapped out Joe's Albatross back to the original 
Choco-moose bar and love it again.  Twp Albatross bars, two bikes and 
totally different opinion.  (I actually suspect it wasn't the Albatross bar 
on the Joe A that I was reacting to but the too short stem I used with it).

Brett, love your Atlantis in it's "natural" outfit!  



On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

>Never tried the Losco bars, but I liked the stiffness of the bullmoose 
> bosco bars, and not the flex of the regular bosco bars, especially when 
> pedaling standing up out the saddle, and both versions made for a very 
> cramped cockpit. But then I'm most comfortable on my Hunqapillar with a 
> long stem and a the Nitto lugged seat post.
>
> And when I have a front load, I found bars with a grip closer to the load 
> makes for easier handling, like my albatross bars on a 12cm long stem 
> gripped up near the curves, but YMMV cause everyone's different.
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Brooks C19

[Paul Brodek]

There's somebody on paceline with a bunch of new C19 saddles to sell. No 
connection to the sale, I don't get commission, not sure if I even know the 
seller (anonymous handles on paceline):
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=263419

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 8:56:14 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> My Brooks C19 got swiped from my Xtracycle over the weekend (just the 
> saddle, not the post which is Pitlock'd). Anyone have one sitting around 
> they'd be up for selling? Dug out my old Abus saddle lock so this won't 
> happen again...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin. 
>

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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Jason Fuller]

Meanwhile I was reading about how flexy they are and it was selling me on 
wanting Losco's more than I already did!  I like the idea of as much 
built-in suspension as I can get, provided the steering is still precise 
enough. 

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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Ed Carolipio]

I have the bullmoose Loscos on my Gus so the flex is actually comfortable 
for me. And I do prefer the flare and width of the Losco over the Bosco 
since I have wide shoulders. One nit though: I don't like how short the 
grip area is relative to the Nittos.

I have the Billies on my Homer with an 11cm stem and I also find them a bit 
flexy when holding on the ends. Mostly an issue when standing up to pedal: 
just need to remember to move my hands forward over the brake levers before 
mashing the pedals. I can see how flex would be a problem if I loaded up 
the bike.

--Ed C.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> I left him by the creek….
> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked the 
> upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it has 
> Albatross handle bars.
> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>
> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
> straighter. 
>
> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions and 
> if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds.
>
> I will post a photo when the parts get put on.
>
> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here.
>
> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>
> Cheers!

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