Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Doug H.]

I didn't order it so it was a freebie. Maybe since it took almost three 
weeks to ship the bicycle but either way I'm happy to get it as it has been 
on my radar to read.
Doug

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 10:12:31 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> So did they just toss in a book or did you order it? It’s a FANTASTIC 
> read. Enjoy!
>
> Ben
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> It's so cool!!!
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 6:33:36 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Johnny,
>> Here is a peak at the Clem in my basement sans a saddle which is in 
>> transit from Rivendell.
>> Clem L 
>> 
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:13:12 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I'm very excited for you but at the same time disappointed in you for 
>>> providing no photos with this post.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:49:23 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it. 

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 
>>
>> Oli 
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour 
>> unpacking it and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing 
>> was 
>> the most thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was 
>> The 
>> Ultimate Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that 
>> too 
>> is much appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, 
>> the Just Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take 
>> some 
>> photos of it.
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Ben Mihovk]

So did they just toss in a book or did you order it? It’s a FANTASTIC read. 
Enjoy!

Ben

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> It's so cool!!!
> 
> 
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 6:33:36 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>> Johnny,
>> Here is a peak at the Clem in my basement sans a saddle which is in transit 
>> from Rivendell.
>> Clem L
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:13:12 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>> I'm very excited for you but at the same time disappointed in you for 
>>> providing no photos with this post.
>>> 
 On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:49:23 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it. 
 
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:
> Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
> Doug
> 
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 
>> 
>> Oli 
>> 
 On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
 
>>> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking 
>>> it and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the 
>>> most thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The 
>>> Ultimate Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that 
>>> too is much appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I 
>>> ride, the Just Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and 
>>> take some photos of it.
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Joe Bernard]

It's so cool!!!


On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 6:33:36 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Johnny,
> Here is a peak at the Clem in my basement sans a saddle which is in 
> transit from Rivendell.
> Clem L 
> 
>
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:13:12 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I'm very excited for you but at the same time disappointed in you for 
>> providing no photos with this post.
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:49:23 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
 Doug

 On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 
>
> Oli 
>
> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking 
> it and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most 
> thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate 
> Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
> appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
> Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos 
> of 
> it.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Doug H.]

Johnny,
Here is a peak at the Clem in my basement sans a saddle which is in transit 
from Rivendell.
Clem L 


Doug

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 7:13:12 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I'm very excited for you but at the same time disappointed in you for 
> providing no photos with this post.
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:49:23 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it. 
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 

 Oli 

 On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:

 I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking 
 it and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most 
 thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate 
 Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
 appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
 Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos 
 of 
 it.
 Doug
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[RBW] Re: Help Needed to Get Back the iBob Google Group

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Problem solved.  Peter Bridge added me back.  Everything works

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 6:56:55 PM UTC-5 Jock Dewey wrote:

> Contact Steve Palincsar, he'll fix it for you like he just did for me.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:48:12 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Help,  Yesterday, 11/15, I lost the iBob Google group from the My Groups
>>
>> list.   I still have the RBW group and 650B, but IBob list disappeared. 
>>
>> I could not find it using the Google Search feature (using All Groups and 
>> Messages).
>>
>>  Please Help
>>
>>  John Hawrylak
>>
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Johnny Alien]

I'm very excited for you but at the same time disappointed in you for 
providing no photos with this post.

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:49:23 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:

> i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it. 
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 
>>>
>>> Oli 
>>>
>>> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking 
>>> it and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most 
>>> thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate 
>>> Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
>>> appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
>>> Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos of 
>>> it.
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
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[RBW] Re: Help Needed to Get Back the iBob Google Group

[Jock Dewey]

Contact Steve Palincsar, he'll fix it for you like he just did for me.

BEST / Jock Dewey
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 3:48:12 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Help,  Yesterday, 11/15, I lost the iBob Google group from the My Groups
>
> list.   I still have the RBW group and 650B, but IBob list disappeared. 
>
> I could not find it using the Google Search feature (using All Groups and 
> Messages).
>
>  Please Help
>
>  John Hawrylak
>
> Woodstown NJ
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[RBW] Help Needed to Get Back the iBob Google Group

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Help,  Yesterday, 11/15, I lost the iBob Google group from the My Groups

list.   I still have the RBW group and 650B, but IBob list disappeared. 

I could not find it using the Google Search feature (using All Groups and 
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 Please Help

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[RBW] Re: S24o I & M Canal for 60ish Miles w/pics

[Matt Beecher]

Neat.  I am in the area, but have not ridden that trail yet.  I'll have to 
put it on my "to do" list.  Thanks for sharing?

What day did you do this?  Saturday/Sunday?

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:23:34 PM UTC-6 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Living in Chicago can make it hard to find secluded camping, but it does 
> exist.  During a ride from Chicago, IL to Davenport, IA via the I&M 
> canal>Hennepin Canal State Trail my friend Tim and I rode past an awesome 
> camp spot completed with fireplace.  We made a pack to come back to said 
> spot for an overnighter with a larger group.  The spot is 60ish miles from 
> Joliet, IL almost entirely on gravel and tucked between the Canal and the 
> Illinois river.  
> To start the trip I met up with my comrades Tim and Frangk aka Ben and 
> rode to the Metra to take the train to Joliet.  Once in Joliet we met our 
> friend Arb who had rode 60ish miles from the city to meet us.  Arb was 
> planning on 120ish mile ride.  Tim was riding his Susie, Frangk was riding 
> a brakeless single speed Surly steamroller, Arb was on a pink colored bike 
> that I currently can not remember and I was on my Gus.  
>
> We started heading west and realized quickly that we would be dealing with 
> headwind for the day.  Despite the west wind the weather was pretty perfect 
> for riding.  Everyone had enough snacks to ride awhile before picking up 
> food for lunch, dinner and breakfast (for the following morning) at the 
> Jewel in Morris.  We stopped a few times before and after Morris to try pot 
> and eat.   
>
> As we got about 12 miles away from the site a stick got sucked up into 
> Tim's front tire.  Tim was leading the pack and the stick somehow caused 4 
> of Tim's spokes to snap, seize up the front wheel and sent him over the 
> handle bars.  I was about 5 feet behind Tim and had time to squeeze my Paul 
> motolites but made the quick decision to ride straight into his bike on the 
> ground because Frangk was about 2 feet behind me on a brakeless fixed 
> gear.  This gave Frangk the option to bail to my left or right. Thankfully 
> Tim was pretty much fine and his bike was rideable.  We talked later in 
> front of the fire and laughed at how much worse it could have been. 
>
> [image: IMG_0039.jpg]
> [image: IMG_0040.jpg]
> Coordinates are highlighted Orange if anyone is interested.
> Make sure to duck for the first couple underpasses 
> [image: IMG_8001.jpg]
> Due to Kid Duties our dear friend Dave had to bail so we sent him this pic 
> of Arb.  
> [image: IMG_0036.jpg]
> As previously stated Frangk Rode the entire trip brakeless on a fixed.  
> [image: IMG_8006 (1).jpg]
> Four spokes broken but that didn't stop Tim.  Arb Sticks an arm through
>  He even rode home like this the following day
> [image: IMG_8007.jpg]
> The Spot 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Keven's Bike" build

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Laing,
 Would you mind telling me the saddle height in the photo? I remember Keven 
was a tall guy and I’m curious what size that frame is.
Thanks,
 -Frank
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:28:37 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Awesome Bike! Really dig the Cargo rack
>
> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> Changed the handlebars and stem to Nitto fillet brazed Bullmoose from the 
>> parts stash. Original Wavie bars and Technomic stem were a little too flexy 
>> in some situations. Much better now.
>> Very, very tempted to get that IRD setback seatpost that Rivendell has in 
>> stock right now.
>> Just rode in to work. It was Iguana day on the bike path today. Hundreds 
>> of them but I was too lazy to try and get a picture of them. 
>>
>> [image: WorkS.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Resting at the desk in Boca Raton FL
>>
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Oli Cowling]

i am. Thoroughly. Thanks again for it.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 7:45 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it
>>
>> Oli
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking it
>> and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most
>> thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate
>> Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much
>> appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just
>> Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos of
>> it.
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Fillet FacePlater 25.4 x 110

[Chase Granoff]

Hi!

I am hoping one of you fine folks might have an extra one of these stems 
laying around in your parts bin. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/stem-kajnlkhmgn5646?variant=31461540462703

Looking to acquire one for my Sam :)

Feel free to reach out in the thread or direct.

Much appreciated!

Chase

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Re: [RBW] Re: Phone holder preferences - Quad Lock Sale

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

For those of you interested (Quad Lock Curious), I balked at the price of 
the QL and accessories for a few years then got one on a Black Friday Sale 
last year. 
Really good system; I like it.
That time is here again: Black Friday (early) and they've sent out the 
notice of 30% off:
Check out https://www.quadlockcase.com/
BTW, the little kickstand/finger loop accessory (that you might not notice 
on the site) has been very useful to me. The bump/socket on the back 
otherwise destabilizes the case when you set the phone down on a flat 
surface.

David (no connection to QL) Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-7 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Thank you David. Been using one now for a few weeks and love it.
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021, 6:01 PM David Person  wrote:
>
>> Robert, I just updated a post I had done on the Quad Lock mount on my 
>> Albatross bars. FWIW.
>
>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:00:34 AM UTC-7 Robert Blunt wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you everybody. I will be rendering  quad lock this week!
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Blunt
>>> Pennington, NJ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:34 AM Tim Rogers <97r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Quad lock ... especially if you are moving phone between bikes. I have 
 a mount on my Clem and on my recumbent and it doesn't get any easier. Rock 
 solid connection and the case only adds a bit of depth to the phone 
 itself. 

 On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 7:25:24 PM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> Another vote for the Quadlock. I use their out-front mount and attach 
> my headlight to the GoPro mount underneath. Never had any problems with 
> the 
> mount in several years of use over all sorts of road surfaces.
> [image: PXL_20210615_001940747.jpg]
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Joe Bernard]

This is the part where I annoy everybody..I dislike those shifters. 9-speed 
Shimano uses clicks in the back that work great (plus friction option), and 
the front friction shifter doesn't loosen up. Easy! 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:38:51 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

>   My shifters only tend to loosen with large shifts in climates, usually 
> from humid to dry and hot to cold. Rather than trying to tighten it where 
> it is, I simply don't pedal, then I loosen/release the tension of the 
> D-ring totally and gently snug it up from fresh from there. 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:08:24 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if 
>> your frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need 
>> to be snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.
>>
>> As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll 
>> know if the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two 
>> seconds to do that. 
>>
>> Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a 
>> while you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride 
>> that it's time. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first 
>>> time using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
>>>
>>> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it 
>>> just need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about 
>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
 which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
 want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
 feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 

 On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by 
> Rivendell. Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or 
> so 
> on it, most of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends 
> ago, which was a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>
> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog 
> of 
> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force 
> that 
> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
> time.
>
> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on 
> its 
> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
> things).
>
> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>
> Any thoughts or tips?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam
>

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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Doug H.]

Thank you Oli. I hope you are enjoying your SimpleOne.
Doug

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:09:22 PM UTC-5 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 
>
> Oli 
>
> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking it 
> and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most 
> thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate 
> Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
> appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
> Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos of 
> it.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
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Re: [RBW] Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Garth]

  My shifters only tend to loosen with large shifts in climates, usually 
from humid to dry and hot to cold. Rather than trying to tighten it where 
it is, I simply don't pedal, then I loosen/release the tension of the 
D-ring totally and gently snug it up from fresh from there. 
On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 2:08:24 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if 
> your frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need 
> to be snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.
>
> As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll know 
> if the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two seconds to 
> do that. 
>
> Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a 
> while you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride 
> that it's time. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first 
>> time using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
>>
>> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
>> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
>>> which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
>>> want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
>>> feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by 
 Rivendell. Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so 
 on it, most of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends 
 ago, which was a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.

 Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
 shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog 
 of 
 the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
 largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
 would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
 cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force 
 that 
 would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
 the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
 rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
 time.

 I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
 ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
 own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
 the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
 shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
 things).

 I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
 knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.

 Any thoughts or tips?

 Thanks!

 Adam

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell "Keven's Bike" build

[Joseph]

Awesome Bike! Really dig the Cargo rack

On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> Changed the handlebars and stem to Nitto fillet brazed Bullmoose from the 
> parts stash. Original Wavie bars and Technomic stem were a little too flexy 
> in some situations. Much better now.
> Very, very tempted to get that IRD setback seatpost that Rivendell has in 
> stock right now.
> Just rode in to work. It was Iguana day on the bike path today. Hundreds 
> of them but I was too lazy to try and get a picture of them. 
>
> [image: WorkS.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Resting at the desk in Boca Raton FL
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Re: [RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Oli Cowling]

Looking forward to this, Doug! Enjoy it 

Oli 

> On 15 Nov 2021, at 18:42, Doug H.  wrote:
> 
> I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking it and 
> getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most thorough I 
> have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate Bicycle 
> Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
> appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
> Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos of 
> it.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
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Re: [RBW] Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Back in the day when everything was friction shifting, you could tell if your 
frame had more than normal flex in it because the D-rings would need to be 
snugged down more frequently as the frame tugged at the cables.

As others have said, most friction systems are set-and-forget. You’ll know if 
the D-rings need to be tightened, and then it takes about two seconds to do 
that. 

Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com



> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a while 
> you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride that 
> it's time. 
> 
> Joe Bernard
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first time 
> using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
> 
> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, which 
> I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you want 
> just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a feel for, 
> not too tight, not too loose. 
> 
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com <> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. Had 
> it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most of 
> them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was a 
> wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
> 
> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear shifting 
> was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of the 
> cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next largest cog 
> (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and would shift all 
> the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one cog, but the 
> shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that would 
> typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to the 
> largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out rear 
> shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each time.
> 
> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like ghost 
> shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its own. It 
> is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all the way to 
> the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver shifter issue 
> (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some things).
> 
> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
> 
> Any thoughts or tips?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Adam
> 
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[RBW] Re: Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Joe Bernard]

My experience is they need to be snugged up every now and then. After a 
while you'll be able to tell as soon as you nudge the D-ring before a ride 
that it's time. 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:

> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first 
> time using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
>
> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
>
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
>> which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
>> want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
>> feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. 
>>> Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most 
>>> of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was 
>>> a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
>>> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of 
>>> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
>>> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
>>> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
>>> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that 
>>> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
>>> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
>>> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
>>> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
>>> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
>>> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
>>> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
>>> things).
>>>
>>> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
>>> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts or tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>

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[RBW] NBD: Clem L

[Doug H.]

I received my Clem L complete today and spent my lunch hour unpacking it 
and getting it ready to ride. I must say that the packing was the most 
thorough I have seen! Thank you Rivendell! Also included was The Ultimate 
Bicycle Owner's Manual by Eben Weiss (aka Bike Snob) and that too is much 
appreciated. I enjoy books about riding bicycles the way I ride, the Just 
Ride way. I hope to get a nice ride in this weekend and take some photos of 
it.
Doug
Athens, GA

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[RBW] Our own Joe B. on a ride with Henry Wildeberry

[Berkeleyan]

This was a fun one to watch... great to see Joe's solidly flexible approach 
to gear and components. Not as much riding as most Wildeberry videos, but 
entertaining all the same.

https://youtu.be/EXVLbUBkba0

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Large pedals, thumbs up

[Joseph]

Large pedals gets two thumbs up from me.  
I'm a big fan of the DEITY.  Either the Black Kats or Deftrap
I have a pair of the Black Kats on my Gus and will be swapping them for the 
Deftraps so the Black Kats can go on my wife's Cheviot 

https://www.deitycomponents.com/pedals.html

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:07:06 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:

> I've been a VP Harrier fan for some years now. They're wide in both width 
> and length, while still being fairly thin/low-profile. Discontinued for 
> some time now, there were also recall notices on the web, but for versions 
> evidently way older than mine.
>
> Not sure there was ever an official VP replacement, but there are 
> p-l-e-n-t-y of wide/longer platform pedals in the world today, some with 
> significant pins, others not so much. Looks like a number of duplicate 
> plastic/composite candidates out there as well, which can be an 
> effective/cost-efficient way to evaluate a pedal before springing for the 
> full-metal experience.
>
> Looking for flickr photos I'm realizing I tend to totally neglect pedal 
> pix, despite obsessively documenting ever other square millimeter of 
> hardware. Go figure.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> [image: 15160652808_6929dbf189_c.jpg]
>
> Yeah, focus solidly on the chainring/chain here. Pedals, schmedals!
> [image: 50135905607_e422cb16bf_c.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 12:52:35 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Over the years I’ve seen numerous comments on how comfortable larger 
>> pedals are. 
>> I’ve ridden standard sized pedals my whole life and never gave it much 
>> though. 
>> Since I’ve spent more and more time riding in thin soled sandals I 
>> noticed a bit of discomfort (not pain) after riding for a couple hours. 
>> I bought a pair of Sylvan Gorditos from Crust and swapped out my standard 
>> Sylvans. 
>> After I got home from my first ride with them I realized i hadn’t noticed 
>> any pressure where I used to. 
>> Aside from that I didn’t give them a single thought while riding. 
>>
>> I see more big pedals in my future. 
>>
>> Ray
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

[Joseph]

Happy 70th to your wife! 

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 8:52:57 AM UTC-6 jeffrey kane wrote:

> Great story ... the first thing that came to mind for me was: if you can 
> ride it 30 or 40 you can ride it 70!
>
> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> That's awesome!  I have ridden a couple 200km (130 mile?) rides on my 
>> Hillborne now and will push as far as I'm physically willing to on that 
>> bike - it's not the fastest bike, for sure, but the comfort becomes really 
>> welcome on very long rides, along with the stable handling. I have 
>> considered a lighter, faster feeling bike for big rides but honestly I 
>> don't think I'd like that better overall considering how nicely the Sam 
>> rides. 
>>
>> I think comfort and intuitive handling are the top characteristics for 
>> all-day rides to me, and this covers most Rivs thankfully! 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 06:48:09 UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations on completing the birthday ride!  I agree, any bicycle 
>>> will do.  
>>>
>>> This:  * >   Time and determination are key  I think   <*
>>>
>>> All the Best,
>>>
>>> Jeff & Lori
>>> Claremont, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways 
 do a smile & a wave.
 On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:

> Good on you guys! made my day!
>
> I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
> your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing 
> something 
> like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it 
> takes. 
> Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
> tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have 
> to 
> work up to it , though
>
> Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
> other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.
>
> But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!
>
> Ryan in Winnipeg
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>
>> That’s rad!
>> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike 
>> into their 70’s.
>> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, 
>> and bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now 
>> she 
>> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
>> option to bike.
>> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far 
>> you can ride it is your own endurance. 
>> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>>
>> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>>
>> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>>
>> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
>> fellow.
>>
>> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>>
>> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>>
>> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>>
>> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely 
>> be a lot of different view points about it.
>>
>> I learned something today.
>> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for 
>> that mileage can still work.
>>
>> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile 
>> attempt today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>>
>> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>>
>> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal 
>> of riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>>
>> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>>
>> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. 
>> (Very similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. 
>> They have that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and 
>> crank 
>> are 3 or so inches forward of the seat tube.
>>
>> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but 
>> put their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>>
>> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of 
>> which our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>>
>>
>> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>>
>> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket 
>> to carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted 

[RBW] Re: Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Greg J]

Like any screw, it will loosen over time, but for the most part, it should 
be set and forget for a good long time.  Especially if you use locktite or 
beeswax on the threads.  (Although I have had one set of screws and a frame 
where it would loosen frequently, which I attribute to bigger tolerances 
between the frame threads and the shifter screws, but that isn't the case 
here since you're using modern parts.)

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:52:44 AM UTC-8 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:

> D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first 
> time using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!
>
> Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
> need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?
>
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
>> which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
>> want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
>> feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. 
>>> Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most 
>>> of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was 
>>> a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
>>> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of 
>>> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
>>> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
>>> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
>>> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that 
>>> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
>>> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
>>> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
>>> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
>>> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
>>> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
>>> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
>>> things).
>>>
>>> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
>>> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts or tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Adam Smith]

D-ring, yes. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the tip. This is my first time 
using friction shifting on a bicycle so it's all new to me!

Does that d-ring / tension tend to need regular attention or does it just 
need to be dialed initially and then get on with it and forget about it?


On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, 
> which I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you 
> want just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a 
> feel for, not too tight, not too loose. 
>
> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. 
>> Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most 
>> of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was 
>> a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>>
>> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
>> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of 
>> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
>> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
>> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
>> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that 
>> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
>> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
>> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
>> time.
>>
>> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
>> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
>> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
>> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
>> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
>> things).
>>
>> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
>> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>>
>> Any thoughts or tips?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Garth]

>From what you wrote Adam it's a matter of adjusting the tension bolt, which 
I'm assuming is a d-ring, yes ? These are adjustable on the fly, you want 
just enough tension to hold the gear. It's just something you get a feel 
for, not too tight, not too loose. 

On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. 
> Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most 
> of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was 
> a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.
>
> Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
> shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of 
> the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
> largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
> would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
> cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that 
> would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
> the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
> rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
> time.
>
> I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
> ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
> own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
> the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
> shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
> things).
>
> I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
> knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.
>
> Any thoughts or tips?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great story ... the first thing that came to mind for me was: if you can 
ride it 30 or 40 you can ride it 70!

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> That's awesome!  I have ridden a couple 200km (130 mile?) rides on my 
> Hillborne now and will push as far as I'm physically willing to on that 
> bike - it's not the fastest bike, for sure, but the comfort becomes really 
> welcome on very long rides, along with the stable handling. I have 
> considered a lighter, faster feeling bike for big rides but honestly I 
> don't think I'd like that better overall considering how nicely the Sam 
> rides. 
>
> I think comfort and intuitive handling are the top characteristics for 
> all-day rides to me, and this covers most Rivs thankfully! 
>
>
> On Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 06:48:09 UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on completing the birthday ride!  I agree, any bicycle 
>> will do.  
>>
>> This:  * >   Time and determination are key  I think   <*
>>
>> All the Best,
>>
>> Jeff & Lori
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways 
>>> do a smile & a wave.
>>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Good on you guys! made my day!

 I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
 your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing 
 something 
 like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
 Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
 tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have 
 to 
 work up to it , though

 Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
 other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.

 But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!

 Ryan in Winnipeg




 On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:

> That’s rad!
> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike 
> into their 70’s.
> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, 
> and bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now 
> she 
> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
> option to bike.
> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far 
> you can ride it is your own endurance. 
> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>
> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>
> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>
> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>
> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
> fellow.
>
> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>
> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>
> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>
> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be 
> a lot of different view points about it.
>
> I learned something today.
> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for 
> that mileage can still work.
>
> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile 
> attempt today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>
> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>
> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
> riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>
> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>
> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. 
> (Very similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. 
> They have that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank 
> are 3 or so inches forward of the seat tube.
>
> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
> their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>
> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of 
> which our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>
>
> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>
> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket 
> to carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban 
> cruiser and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty 
> relaxed 
> geometry. 
>
> I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.
>
> I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well ma

[RBW] Weird (Silver bar end/friction/Shimano 9sp) shifting issue

[Adam Smith]

Hi everyone,

I am enjoying my brand spanking new Joe Appaloosa built up by Rivendell. 
Had it for about 6 weeks or so, I have put maybe 75 miles or so on it, most 
of them from the Nutmeg Nor'easter ride a couple of weekends ago, which was 
a wonderful 40 mile ride, Joe's maiden voyage I'd say.

Yesterday I was going for a short 6 mile ride and noticed that rear 
shifting was weird. I was able to shift from largest to next largest cog of 
the cassette, no problem, but as soon as I'd try to shift to the next 
largest cog (3rd from largest), it's as though the shifter took over and 
would shift all the way to the smallest cog. I'd then try to shift up one 
cog, but the shifter was resistant to light force, the amount of force that 
would typically shift up a gear.. If I tried to shift all the way back to 
the largest cog this would work. I have a triple up front, I tested out 
rear shifting in each of the front positions with the same results each 
time.

I searched this group and the internet a bit, and it doesn't seem like 
ghost shifting exactly, it's not skipping or shifting a single gear on its 
own. It is ghost-like though in that it is shifting from 3rd largest all 
the way to the smallest cog on its own. I'm unsure if this is a Silver 
shifter issue (tighten the bolt?) or a derailleur issue (adjust some 
things).

I plan to call Rivendell this week, but figured I'd tap the collective 
knowledge and experience of this group in the meantime.

Any thoughts or tips?

Thanks!

Adam

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto HiRiser Threadless Stem 135mm

[CapNMike]

Hello,
I am looking for a Nitto HiRiser Threadless Stem (CR 61) in 135mm length 
for handlebar conversion on a tandem and Riv has been sold out of all but 
the shortest lengths for some time. Is there a chance that someone has one 
that they are not using and would be willing to sell?

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-hiriser-25-4-1-1-8-threadless-stem-16252

Long shot here but would alternatively be interested in the Tosco Bullmoose 
style handle bar as this would eliminate need for a stem,

https://www.rivbike.com/products/handlebar-tosco-bar-1?variant=39285842772079

Thanks all,

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT but at least as good as Dylan: help finding best source for some digital music

[Nick Payne]

On Monday, 15 November 2021 at 10:38:48 am UTC+11 Patrick Moore wrote:

> "Album." Now there's an out-of-date term; even LPs weren't truly "albums," 
> which named thick collections of shellac 78s in bound sleeves. (I do 
> remember turntables with 78, 45, and 33 1/3 rpm speed selections, though.)
>

At school in the early 1960s I can remember our music teacher playing us 
Act 2 of Tristan and Isolde on 78s. Rather spoilt the flow of the opera, 
though, when he had to leap up and change the disc every four or five 
minutes.

Nick

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