[RBW] Re: WTT Hunqapillar for Joe Appaloosa

[Matthew P]

I have the 57 cm orange Appaloosa but your Hunq is too big for me. A Hunq 
for me would be about 56 cm I reckon. 
Trade the Hunq for a smaller one and then trade that one to me? 
We need a third person to make this bike trade triangle!
-Matthew
San Diego

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:58:45 PM UTC-8 Friend wrote:

> Bummer cause I've got a 62cm Appaloosa and would definitely be interested. 
>  Would you sell this?
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-5 s...@macksbikeandgoods.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bunch
>>
>> I am thinking about trying to trade my 62cm Hunqapillar frame for a 57cm 
>> Joe appaloosa frame. 
>>
>> I love my Hunq and don't have to trade it but I have been thinking about 
>> a slightly smaller frame with some of the same attributes as my hunq... 
>>
>> I am looking for a 57cm Joe Appaloosa preferably in orange. Would also 
>> consider a trade for a 59cm Hunqapillar possibly.
>>
>> Trading frame only!  
>>
>> [image: C2800C43-343D-4DC7-88BA-1006505FFBA1.JPG]
>>
>>
>> [image: DA2E28CD-CE4A-491C-8DDB-18F23CD7E1C1.JPG][image: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Upcoming AAH -build

[Nikko in Oakland]

Slick bike. Mind sharing some details? Specifically your 
shifter/derailleur/cassette selections.  

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 6:38:26 PM UTC-8 Drurad (Sacramento) wrote:

> [image: IMG_7536.PNG]
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:51:26 PM UTC-8 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> The plug I used was too big to fit in the leg unfortunately. I'd have to 
>> swap to the spade connector to get it to fit, and granted I am too lazy to 
>> deal with all that
>>
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:50:23 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow that is a gorgeous bike, I can't take my eyes off it!  One thing 
>>> though; that rack has internal wire routing in the forward leg, worth 
>>> changing it up if you want to run lowrider panniers on it at some point :)  
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:39 PM Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>>>
 I am using Tektro R559's and using the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass by Rene 
 Herse. They measure 40mm on these Velocity Quills.

 On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:28:07 PM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> Calvin,
> Looks like ithe brakes are Paul Racers, wanted to confirm . Also , 
> what size tires are you running ?
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:14:19 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Calvin. Your bike looks amazing. Ride in good health .
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 08:41 Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my Homer from this latest batch. Decided to go with Velocity 
>>> Quill instead of Brevets, and used my old 10 speed Shimano 105 
>>> derailleurs 
>>> for this build. 34/24 up front and 11-28 in the back makes for some 
>>> pretty 
>>> fun riding. 
>>>
>>> Riv mentioned something different about the paint, more luster or 
>>> something. I'd have to agree with them on that. The color of this bike 
>>> is 
>>> phenomenal.
>>> [image: 6493664D-164F-4111-BAE3-4E2AF7C8FCAC-15002-117AA43B2E39 
>>> Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Matthew Williams]

Clem Smith Jr.
52cm
$2400
Athens, GA
https://athensga.craigslist.org/bik/d/athens-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7430832354.html

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[RBW] Re: WTT Hunqapillar for Joe Appaloosa

[Friend]

Bummer cause I've got a 62cm Appaloosa and would definitely be interested. 
 Would you sell this?

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-5 s...@macksbikeandgoods.com 
wrote:

> Hey Bunch
>
> I am thinking about trying to trade my 62cm Hunqapillar frame for a 57cm 
> Joe appaloosa frame. 
>
> I love my Hunq and don't have to trade it but I have been thinking about a 
> slightly smaller frame with some of the same attributes as my hunq... 
>
> I am looking for a 57cm Joe Appaloosa preferably in orange. Would also 
> consider a trade for a 59cm Hunqapillar possibly.
>
> Trading frame only!  
>
> [image: C2800C43-343D-4DC7-88BA-1006505FFBA1.JPG]
>
>
> [image: DA2E28CD-CE4A-491C-8DDB-18F23CD7E1C1.JPG][image: 
> 6110CC5C-5BE4-4CF1-B569-E4DDEF83CCAE.JPG][image: 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, a Platy should be on the lighter side, remember it's derived from the 
Cheviot which was kind of a droptube Hillborne road bike with road brakes. 
Grant changed the brakes and a couple frame details, but it still should be 
closer to Hillborne and Homer than the touring/fire roads category covered 
by Atlantis and Appaloosa. 


On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:48:39 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> I don't mind a heavy-ish bike (I do own Rivendells, after all), but it can 
> be too heavy for me to lift onto a bike rack or over a log.  I never 
> weighed my Platy, but I built it up with lightish parts--Brevet rims, some 
> kind of Gravel King tires run tubeless, 1x with Garbaruk cassette (they 
> remove unneeded metal), SKS fenders and lighter Axiom rack.  One light 
> nylon bag.   I did spend "poundage" by installing a Brooks B68 and 
> Greenfield kickstand.   I can lift it, but it is heavier than my more bare 
> AHomerHilsen. 
>
> The *ride*, though, is light--light and breezy.  My old "lightened up" 
> Appaloosa probably weighed about the same, and it rode great, but not the 
> light and breezy ride of the Platy.
>
> If you're ever on the eastern side of the state, I'm in Philadelphia and 
> wouldn't mind letting your wife test my 55cm Platy.
>
> Roberta
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:43:34 PM UTC-5 Rusty Click wrote:
>
>>
>> Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see 
>> pictures, especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly what 
>> my wife describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to 
>> replace the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she 
>> doesn't want that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and 
>> Sam Hillborne builds onto the Platy.
>>
>> Rusty C.
>> Pgh, PA
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
>>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
>>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Hugo. 

 I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
 stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the 
 rear 
 axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there 
 was 
 too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
 standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
 my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.

 Roberta

 On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
> in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, 
> however, 
> it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand 
> or 
> locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions 
> for 
> 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!
>
> As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick 
> stand that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did 
> not 
> work. The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay 
> whereas 
> the Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being 
> stretched out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it 
> appears that the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a 
> single 
> kick stand. Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or 
> should I just shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from 
> Riv? 
> If so, does someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?
>
> Thanks! - HH 
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Upcoming AAH -build

[Calvin Yolo]

The plug I used was too big to fit in the leg unfortunately. I'd have to 
swap to the spade connector to get it to fit, and granted I am too lazy to 
deal with all that

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:50:23 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow that is a gorgeous bike, I can't take my eyes off it!  One thing 
> though; that rack has internal wire routing in the forward leg, worth 
> changing it up if you want to run lowrider panniers on it at some point :)  
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:39 PM Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>
>> I am using Tektro R559's and using the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass by Rene Herse. 
>> They measure 40mm on these Velocity Quills.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:28:07 PM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Calvin,
>>> Looks like ithe brakes are Paul Racers, wanted to confirm . Also , what 
>>> size tires are you running ?
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:14:19 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations Calvin. Your bike looks amazing. Ride in good health .

 On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 08:41 Calvin Yolo  wrote:

> Here's my Homer from this latest batch. Decided to go with Velocity 
> Quill instead of Brevets, and used my old 10 speed Shimano 105 
> derailleurs 
> for this build. 34/24 up front and 11-28 in the back makes for some 
> pretty 
> fun riding. 
>
> Riv mentioned something different about the paint, more luster or 
> something. I'd have to agree with them on that. The color of this bike is 
> phenomenal.
> [image: 6493664D-164F-4111-BAE3-4E2AF7C8FCAC-15002-117AA43B2E39 
> Large.jpeg]
>
>
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[RBW] WTB Nitto Faceplater 85mm

[Ray Varella]

Like the title says, does anyone have an 85mm 31.8 faceplater quill stem 
they want to part with. 
Please let me know if you do. 

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Roberta]

I don't mind a heavy-ish bike (I do own Rivendells, after all), but it can 
be too heavy for me to lift onto a bike rack or over a log.  I never 
weighed my Platy, but I built it up with lightish parts--Brevet rims, some 
kind of Gravel King tires run tubeless, 1x with Garbaruk cassette (they 
remove unneeded metal), SKS fenders and lighter Axiom rack.  One light 
nylon bag.   I did spend "poundage" by installing a Brooks B68 and 
Greenfield kickstand.   I can lift it, but it is heavier than my more bare 
AHomerHilsen. 

The *ride*, though, is light--light and breezy.  My old "lightened up" 
Appaloosa probably weighed about the same, and it rode great, but not the 
light and breezy ride of the Platy.

If you're ever on the eastern side of the state, I'm in Philadelphia and 
wouldn't mind letting your wife test my 55cm Platy.

Roberta



On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:43:34 PM UTC-5 Rusty Click wrote:

>
> Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see pictures, 
> especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly what my wife 
> describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to replace 
> the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she doesn't want 
> that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and Sam Hillborne 
> builds onto the Platy.
>
> Rusty C.
> Pgh, PA
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>>
>>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
>>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
>>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
>>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
 in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, 
 it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand 
 or 
 locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions 
 for 
 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!

 As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
 that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not 
 work. 
 The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
 Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
 out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
 the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
 Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
 shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
 someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?

 Thanks! - HH 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upcoming AAH -build

[Jason Fuller]

Wow that is a gorgeous bike, I can't take my eyes off it!  One thing
though; that rack has internal wire routing in the forward leg, worth
changing it up if you want to run lowrider panniers on it at some point :)

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:39 PM Calvin Yolo  wrote:

> I am using Tektro R559's and using the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass by Rene Herse.
> They measure 40mm on these Velocity Quills.
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:28:07 PM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Calvin,
>> Looks like ithe brakes are Paul Racers, wanted to confirm . Also , what
>> size tires are you running ?
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:14:19 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations Calvin. Your bike looks amazing. Ride in good health .
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 08:41 Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>>>
 Here's my Homer from this latest batch. Decided to go with Velocity
 Quill instead of Brevets, and used my old 10 speed Shimano 105 derailleurs
 for this build. 34/24 up front and 11-28 in the back makes for some pretty
 fun riding.

 Riv mentioned something different about the paint, more luster or
 something. I'd have to agree with them on that. The color of this bike is
 phenomenal.
 [image: 6493664D-164F-4111-BAE3-4E2AF7C8FCAC-15002-117AA43B2E39
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2011 A. Homer Hilsen 61cm Custom Color

[Brian Campbell]

Still looking for a new steward..

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 3:32:05 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Just here to say this bike is perfect, WOW.  GLWS 
>
> On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 03:09:40 UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I am likewise pretty amazed this hasn't sold yet. I have been tempted to 
>> get a Homer the same vintage as mine 2cm smaller to run drop bars on. Could 
>> have been a very fun addition to my stable but alas I just threw the dough 
>> at a Susie.
>>
>> GLWS
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Upcoming AAH -build

[Calvin Yolo]

I am using Tektro R559's and using the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass by Rene Herse. 
They measure 40mm on these Velocity Quills.

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:28:07 PM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Calvin,
> Looks like ithe brakes are Paul Racers, wanted to confirm . Also , what 
> size tires are you running ?
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:14:19 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Calvin. Your bike looks amazing. Ride in good health .
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 08:41 Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my Homer from this latest batch. Decided to go with Velocity 
>>> Quill instead of Brevets, and used my old 10 speed Shimano 105 derailleurs 
>>> for this build. 34/24 up front and 11-28 in the back makes for some pretty 
>>> fun riding. 
>>>
>>> Riv mentioned something different about the paint, more luster or 
>>> something. I'd have to agree with them on that. The color of this bike is 
>>> phenomenal.
>>> [image: 6493664D-164F-4111-BAE3-4E2AF7C8FCAC-15002-117AA43B2E39 
>>> Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Eric Daume]

With the extra tubing, the Platypus will definitely be a heavier frame than
your Sam, and likely similar or heavier to the Atlantis. Just guessing.

I'm also guessing your Trek (assuming a generic aluminum fitness hybrid)
will probably be lighter.

Eric

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 4:43 PM Rusty Click  wrote:

>
> Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see pictures,
> especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly what my wife
> describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to replace
> the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she doesn't want
> that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and Sam Hillborne
> builds onto the Platy.
>
> Rusty C.
> Pgh, PA
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some
>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just
>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hugo.
>>>
>>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a
>>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear
>>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was
>>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the
>>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar
>>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it
 in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however,
 it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand or
 locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions for
 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!

 As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand
 that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not work.
 The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the
 Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched
 out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that
 the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand.
 Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just
 shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does
 someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?

 Thanks! - HH

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Re: [RBW] Re: Upcoming AAH -build

[atreya...@gmail.com]

Calvin,
Looks like ithe brakes are Paul Racers, wanted to confirm . Also , what 
size tires are you running ?
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:14:19 AM UTC-8 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congratulations Calvin. Your bike looks amazing. Ride in good health .
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 08:41 Calvin Yolo  wrote:
>
>> Here's my Homer from this latest batch. Decided to go with Velocity Quill 
>> instead of Brevets, and used my old 10 speed Shimano 105 derailleurs for 
>> this build. 34/24 up front and 11-28 in the back makes for some pretty fun 
>> riding. 
>>
>> Riv mentioned something different about the paint, more luster or 
>> something. I'd have to agree with them on that. The color of this bike is 
>> phenomenal.
>> [image: 6493664D-164F-4111-BAE3-4E2AF7C8FCAC-15002-117AA43B2E39 
>> Large.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Philip Barrett]

I'm with your wife here! Certainly not a weight-weenie but a lighter bike 
is more fun to ride, feels more lively and doesn't bum you out on the 
hills. My personal feeling is that around 28 to 30lbs built up gives you a 
sweet venn between a rideable weight with the parts you want and not 
spending a ludicrous sum.

The typical Rib factory builds are, to my mind, overly heavy and come in at 
around 28lbs, sans frameset! Those Kenda tires are 5lbs a set & the 
double-Silver crankset is 2.5lbs alone! Don't tell them I told you this but 
a 53cm Platypus frame & fork is 9lbs so you can work backwards from there.

Some helpful weight tips IMHO are;

   -  1x Crankset: if you don't need the ratios ditch the front derailleur 
   - I use the Silver as a single with a Wolf-Tooth 42 ring, 11-34 on the 
   rear, saves weight & money
   - Lightweight tires: I'm running the Rene Hearse Loup Loup (650b) at 
   just over 1.5lbs for the pair with the standard casing, Jan is a tire 
   evangelist and albeit pricey, he builds fantastic rubber
   - Wheels: good, light wheels make all the difference in the world (less 
   rotational mass) - a set of mid-line Velocity wheels (another great 
   company) will save you 1.5lbs over the Hands-On typically supplied with a 
   Rivendell build

All said & done, my Platypus is 29lbs with a Nitto front rack & Wald 
basket, Brooks saddle & a small pouch for a tube & repair kit. Yes I could 
go lower but the cost/benefit ratio then begins to tip drastically.
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 3:43:34 PM UTC-6 Rusty Click wrote:

>
> Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see pictures, 
> especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly what my wife 
> describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to replace 
> the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she doesn't want 
> that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and Sam Hillborne 
> builds onto the Platy.
>
> Rusty C.
> Pgh, PA
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>>
>>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
>>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
>>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
>>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
 in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, 
 it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand 
 or 
 locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions 
 for 
 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!

 As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
 that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not 
 work. 
 The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
 Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
 out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
 the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
 Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
 shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
 someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?

 Thanks! - HH 

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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Philip Barrett]

Even my lightened Platypus is close to the limit of the Park folding stand, 
it's much about the length as anything else but add in the extra 5-8lbs of 
the typical Riv build up and you're really pushing it.

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 4:22:42 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> As long as the seatpost is tight in the frame and the clamp is tight on 
> the post you should be good. My very long Platy-ish custom is the same way 
> in my Park stand, those wheels are wa out there and you're going to get 
> a rocking effect when working on it. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-8 hugohal...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
>> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
>> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>>
>>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
>>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
>>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
>>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
 in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, 
 it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand 
 or 
 locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions 
 for 
 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!

 As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
 that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not 
 work. 
 The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
 Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
 out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
 the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
 Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
 shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
 someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?

 Thanks! - HH 

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Re: [RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Eric Marth]

Brendon – The JB Bar 
 also looks nice in 
case you missed it. 

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:47 AM UTC-5 daveyst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm also in this boat, 5'8 long inseam went for the large because I wanted 
> 29 wheels. 
> I have a crust bj stem 31.8 30mm that I'm thinking might work with 
> tumbleweed bars I have, could be too short though. I'd also like the crust 
> ui stem or any of the analog options, I'm also just guessing what the reach 
> might be,  assuming that it will be loong for me!
> I do like the look of the more traditional riv hilli builds (mostly gus's) 
> on insta with tosco bullmoose but also the newer builds with short stems 
> and less sweep bars, so I'm torn and too excited to just wait to sit on it 
> and see!
> Hopefully faceplater stems are magically in stock when the frames arrive!
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> On Fri., Jan. 7, 2022, 9:42 p.m. Jared Wilson,  wrote:
>
>> Oh wow, if I found myself in that position I'd be making the same call. 
>>
>> And I thought building bikes was expensive here in CA...
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 8:41:30 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Jared, that JJJ bar looks *really* nice. I 100% agree that the finish 
>>> on the Jones bar is not up to snuff. Certainly not Nitto standards.
>>> I'm going to end up with the Jones bar I think because I can get one 
>>> from my LBS. Just for an example, that Analog stem is going to cost $81.87 
>>> to ship to me. I have emailed them to see if they can ship cheaper than 
>>> that but with DHL being the only reliable international shippers these days 
>>> that is just how much it costs.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Joe Bernard]

As long as the seatpost is tight in the frame and the clamp is tight on the 
post you should be good. My very long Platy-ish custom is the same way in 
my Park stand, those wheels are wa out there and you're going to get a 
rocking effect when working on it. 

Joe Bernard

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 8:58:04 AM UTC-8 hugohal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>
>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
>>> in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, 
>>> it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand or 
>>> locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions for 
>>> 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!
>>>
>>> As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
>>> that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not work. 
>>> The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
>>> Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
>>> out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
>>> the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
>>> Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
>>> shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
>>> someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?
>>>
>>> Thanks! - HH 
>>>
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[RBW] Clem L For Sale

[Doug H.]

After a few months of riding and enjoying my Clem L I have decided to sell 
it. I ride almost exclusively on the roads and lately in group rides. I 
much prefer not to ship but know that is the likely scenario. I'm in 
Athens, Ga so if you are within 100 miles or so I can meet you. Otherwise I 
can get a shipping quote based on your location. Photos in the link:

Clem L Photos 

This is a like new Lime Olive Clem L size 52 with 650b wheels. 1x10 with a 
Microshift bar end shifter. Tosco bars and Nitto stem. Black 172.5 mm 
Clipper crank arms and 38 tooth chain ring with guard. Velocity Cliffhanger 
wheels 32 spoke front, 36 rear. Deore hubs. Teravail Ehline black wall 
tires. Shimano Deore v-brakes. MKS Grip Monarch pedals. Saddle will be a 
like new black Giant saddle, not the Brooks shown in the photos. This frame 
was built up by Rivendell, not a stock build. Asking $2,400 plus shipping.
Doug
Athens, Ga

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Clem & Group usage issues & possible stem / bar swap?

[Roberta]

It's BEAUTIFUL and even better, COMFORTABLE!  It took me awhile to get my 
Platy "just so."

BTW, before I found this group about five years ago, I didn't know one 
could just change stems or handlebars to get a more comfortable ride.  I 
sold my last bike (pre-Riv) because I had to reach forward too much and 
that bothered my neck.  My ignorance became my (Riv) gain!

Roberta

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:05:32 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oops! I think I may have jumped the gun. Just finished first ride (other 
> than Dow the street), a 28 degree & very windy 23 miles. First I put my SQ 
> Labs saddle on, adjusting it just so. Then I jacked up the stem a bunch - 3 
> or 4cm - a I’ll be damned if I was not VERY comfortable. I am very upright 
> with hands @ the tips & the reach down to the straight section into the 
> wind felt good. I now suspect the 85 stem will be to short with the longer 
> “handles” of the Bosco. AND, the 65 width of the Tosco felt good! I feel 
> stupid now
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 9, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>
> Of course, that pic looks fine!  So much for an example of sideways 
> pictures.  I guess you'll just have to believe me!
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 1:15:20 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>
>> I just responded to your other question about the saddle.  
>> Congratulations on the new Clem!   I did nearly the same thing to get my 
>> bikes.  Why ship with the potential for damage when it is close enough to 
>> pick up.
>>
>> I look forward to seeing your pictures and have the same issue as you.  I 
>> email the pics to my email account, open email on PC save them to my PC's 
>> folder and then attach to the message.  When I do that, the pics look 
>> sideways, but once we double click on them for a bigger view, they show 
>> positioned properly.  I no longer have the Appaloosa, but it will give you 
>> idea of the pic issue.
>>
>> Miles of smiles,
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:56:54 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, so first thing first; I left my house at 7:30 this morning and 
>>> drove 300 round trip miles from Toledo, Ohio to Midland, Michigan & back. I 
>>> was home at 1:00. Quick trip to bring home this Clem. I would post some 
>>> nice pics except it is pretty inconvenient as the pics are on my phone & I 
>>> cannot start a new conversation from my phone. Frustrating.
>>> But, the Clem (first Riv) is lovely.
>>> This brand new but second owner Clem comes with 135mm FacePlater 31.8 
>>> clamp diameter stem and 65cm Tosco bar, both gorgeous! Alas the stem is WAY 
>>> too long for me and the bar may be too wide. So I am wondering if anyone 
>>> might be interested in a trade?
>>> Also, does anyone find that with the relatively slack seat tube that you 
>>> require a zero offset post?
>>> Happy to be here & thanks,
>>> Richard
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Rusty Click]

Another question...How much does the Platypus weigh?  When I see pictures, 
especially of Leah's beautiful bike, it seems to be exactly what my wife 
describes as the bike she wants.  When I offer to look for one to replace 
the Tr*k we bought in desperation this past year, she says she doesn't want 
that heavy of a bike.  She may be projecting my Atlantis and Sam Hillborne 
builds onto the Platy.

Rusty C.
Pgh, PA
On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
> reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
> need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Hi, Hugo. 
>>
>> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a 
>> stand (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
>> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
>> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
>> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
>> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it 
>>> in October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, 
>>> it has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand or 
>>> locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions for 
>>> 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!
>>>
>>> As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
>>> that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not work. 
>>> The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
>>> Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
>>> out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
>>> the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
>>> Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
>>> shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
>>> someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?
>>>
>>> Thanks! - HH 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: continuing to ride desire

[aeroperf]

Then I’ll suggest the Silver Comet/Chief Ladiga trail out of Atlanta, if 
you want a paved trail.
https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/cFpcvUWqzkA

Typically high 40’s, low 50’s for temperatures, though it is getting below 
freezing at night right now.  The last significant snow I remember was 2017.
On the plus side, Atlanta is easy to get to.  On the minus side, the trail 
is only 96 miles long.


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Re: [RBW] Re: question and WTB for two new country builds

[Michael Baquerizo]

oh and, i temporarily gave up on the double kickstand and used the one that 
came with my wife's clem. i've determined non double kickstands suck. 

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 3:00:06 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> added the rack for support. wrapped the bars some, managed to lose one of 
> the washers  while readjusting the rear rack. i think the bars are too high 
> but otherwise it's a fun one.
>
> [image: IMG_1086 copy.jpg]
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 8:58:59 AM UTC-5 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Fantastic!  Glad to hear it all worked out...
>>
>> Looking forward to pics, although they would surely just further fan the 
>> flames of my desire for an App of my own.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 7:47:49 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> Jason - rack received and installed. bonus was the struts were a perfect 
>>> length for my wife's mark rack to go straight to the fork ends. I used hers 
>>> to go to my mid seat stay braze ons. win win win. happy new year. thank you 
>>> again 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Michael Baquerizo 
>>>
>>> www.mbaquerizo.com 
>>>
>>> 646-206-2913 <(646)%20206-2913> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael, 
>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect there's an official answer from Riv and what some folks are 
>>> willing to file on to make that kickstand work. As Grant once said to me 
>>> about some project or another I asked about, "...after that you're on your 
>>> own, Joe."
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 7:18:30 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 updates : 

 spoke to vince at RIV about the kickstand and he hardly let me finish 
 my sentence before saying it just wasn't going to happen. 

 but then i came across this - which suggests otherwise. he kinda left 
 me thinking it's not worth a try and now i'm just stuck in purgatory.


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelug/51441668141/in/photolist-2mnHZJM-2jdMVQX-2kH7s6w-2iZ2U5k-2jwLudZ-2kRmEj1-2m2qLeM-2kRmEhh-2dAstdc-2mkaTEH-2mk7cTn-2mk5QX9-2js8raj-2jsct4f-2brxWaD-2kw6o32-2mkaTzc-X8khsx-2m6k5gV-2js8ri5-2kQC16y-2jYTvzc-2jwMC47-2kMtPBF-2kQzArE-2m7yXBS-2mac9n9-2maeQEv-2m7vdEh-2k3huX5-2jsctcg-2m7yXAe-2m7rq4U-2jsctfn-GzCPNA-2m6C3Mn-2k49hox-2kXJVx6-2m7vdDR-2iuCBEd-2kQC16Z-2geTZS6-2k5qh7n-2k5msdK-2k5msnN-2k5mshN-2m3A8Vh-2m3DLu2-2kYNS92-2jdMVPz

 happened upon a riv reader article that suggests 1/8" set screws are 
 the correct size for grip king extra grippage.

 got the rear rack sorted out. thanks for all the help here, all.


 On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 8:20:19 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Another option is to file off the threads of the bolt where they come 
> in contact with the kickstand plate if you only need a little extra 
> clearance. The threads themselves don't add much strength to the bolt and 
> if you file off too much and the bolt breaks someday, bolts are cheap and 
> the frame has not been altered..
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 10:00:01 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo 
> wrote:
>
>> thanks for the recommendations and suggestions - managed to get a 
>> matching rear thumbie for the bike, and went ahead and ordered a set of 
>> paul levers because they'll likely be the last set of levers we'll ever 
>> need. been really digging old shimano mtb stuff lately but didn't want 
>> to 
>> hold out waiting for something in good condition. 
>>
>> i think i might get an r14 rack eventually, i like the ones without 
>> the tombstone. erlen is out of the question, as is the bagman support as 
>> i 
>> think those are better for barrel shaped bags than for the riv 
>> offerings. 
>> heck, even a marks rack would do, but i already put one of those on my 
>> wife's bike. probably shouldn't steal it from her just yet.
>>
>> the pec deck is an idea i've considered, but no, the slim sucker does 
>> not have any webbing  on the bottom which is a bummer, but it's small so 
>> probably would have been overkill. 
>>
>> im gonna call riv tomrrow to ask about the kickstand. so far the rat 
>> tail filing out the hole to the left seems to make the most sense, and i 
>> get with enough torque there wouldn't be any reason for the kickstand to 
>> move back and forth along the elongated hole. we'll see if they cosign 
>> this 
>> idea or have a better one. i'm sure they've dealt w it before.
>>
>> thanks everyone - better pics to come hopefully this weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 2:45:01 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> > does anyone have any rack-less recs for sackville saddle bag thats 
>>> an inch too low and touching the rear wheel?
>>>
>>> I have small frames and low saddles. I've used both the Swift 
>>> Industries Catalyst (reinforced X-pac) and 

Re: [RBW] FS: Fly 6 Rear View Camera/Taillight

[RichS]

Thanks for posting these Craig. I suffered through them:-)))

Happy New Year!
Rich in ATL

On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 6:07:17 PM UTC-5 Craig Montgomery wrote:

> Bike touring, especially in the backcountry, is truly joyful, in the 
> purest meaning of the word. Doing an all-nighter and making it to the top 
> of Mt. Whitney in time for the sunrise, and holding my daughter right out 
> of the womb are comparable in my experience also. 
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 3:07 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Lovely scenery, and I enjoyed the heavy breathing soundtrack, not to 
>> mention the singing.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 1:30 PM Craig Montgomery  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I keep my Lumix in the HB bag along with a special tripod that allows me 
>>> to strap the camera to the stem. Rarely shoot backwards (example below).  
>>> Keeping a camera going for the rare "cyclist attacked by car" situation 
>>> seems too paranoid/OCD to me but I don't live in an area of high bike/car 
>>> conflict. In 45 years of touring I've been buzzed maybe 2-3 times and was 
>>> shot at once in New Mexico. Some drunk kids in a pickup doing 70mph. Rear 
>>> videos might be handy if you commuted in an intensely urban setting.
>>>
>>> To lighten the mood, short videos for touring fun stuff and beautiful 
>>> places and riding buddies is a pure joy and great for the memory 
>>> department. 
>>> For the fun of it, did a search of my Flickr site for "handlebar" 
>>> videos. Damn, didn't know I had so many. If you choose to, you can suffer 
>>> through them. A cornucopia of hypothalamic delights. Enjoy...or not. 
>>>
>>> 14 miles from the doorstep: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/50929551231/
>>>
>>> 25 miles: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/50816183486/
>>>
>>> Power-dive off the Mogollon Rim: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/5972029361/
>>>
>>> The touring with buddies category is the best. Apologies for the 
>>> silliness. Those of you who have lived off the bikes for days on end, esp. 
>>> fully-loaded...you understand. 
>>> Out of Tombstone, AZ 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/8538744376/
>>>
>>> White. Mountains along AZ/NM border: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/4741374578/
>>>
>>> And nothing to do with cycling, just a final blast of Christmas Cheer: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/3106172407/
>>>
>>> Craig waxing nostalgic in Tucson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:21:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 My first reaction was, "Neat!" and to head over to paypal. But then I 
 wondered: how many people use cycling cameras? And how do they help or 
 improve riding? I expect these are designed to record motor vehicle driver 
 misbehavior; am I right?

 I guiltily confess to occasionally watching YouTube channels named 
 "Crazy Russian Roads!!!" or "Russian Roadrage!!!" with straight-from-dash 
 video of silly driver antics, but here in the US, how many drivers, and 
 how 
 many riders, carry dash- or bar-or helmet-cams to record prospective 
 clashes?

 Or do people use riding cams for future ride reportage?

 I'm not criticizing anything or anyone, I'm just curious why people use 
 forward-facing or rear-facing bike cams.

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 4:58 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Picked this up used and then found that it won’t work on my desired 
> bikes. 
>
> Rear-facing camera captures a continuous loop of video, great for 
> helping resolve disputes about who hit whom.
>
> Fits standard Riv-style seat posts. Also includes adapters for those 
> super-rare airfoil ‘posts.
>
> $45 shipped to you in the CONUS.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
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[RBW] Re: New Clem & Group usage issues & possible stem / bar swap?

[Roberta]

Of course, that pic looks fine!  So much for an example of sideways 
pictures.  I guess you'll just have to believe me!

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 1:15:20 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I just responded to your other question about the saddle.  Congratulations 
> on the new Clem!   I did nearly the same thing to get my bikes.  Why ship 
> with the potential for damage when it is close enough to pick up.
>
> I look forward to seeing your pictures and have the same issue as you.  I 
> email the pics to my email account, open email on PC save them to my PC's 
> folder and then attach to the message.  When I do that, the pics look 
> sideways, but once we double click on them for a bigger view, they show 
> positioned properly.  I no longer have the Appaloosa, but it will give you 
> idea of the pic issue.
>
> Miles of smiles,
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:56:54 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yeah, so first thing first; I left my house at 7:30 this morning and 
>> drove 300 round trip miles from Toledo, Ohio to Midland, Michigan & back. I 
>> was home at 1:00. Quick trip to bring home this Clem. I would post some 
>> nice pics except it is pretty inconvenient as the pics are on my phone & I 
>> cannot start a new conversation from my phone. Frustrating.
>> But, the Clem (first Riv) is lovely.
>> This brand new but second owner Clem comes with 135mm FacePlater 31.8 
>> clamp diameter stem and 65cm Tosco bar, both gorgeous! Alas the stem is WAY 
>> too long for me and the bar may be too wide. So I am wondering if anyone 
>> might be interested in a trade?
>> Also, does anyone find that with the relatively slack seat tube that you 
>> require a zero offset post?
>> Happy to be here & thanks,
>> Richard
>>
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[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle on a Clem

[Roberta]

Congratulations on the Clem!  Did you get the step thru model?  It rides 
like a Cadillac.

The B67 is wide and sprung; the B17 is less wide and not sprung.  The B68 
(hard to find, but you can get used) is like the B67 but not sprung; the 
Flyer is like the B17 but sprung.  The Flyer/B17 drops off on the sides, 
while the B68/B67 are flatter.

Do you want sprung or not sprung?   So do you want wider or not quite as 
wide?I'm not familiar with the SQ Lab, so cannot contrast that to the 
Brooks saddles mentioned here.

I used to ride on B17, Flyer and Selle Anatomica (both cut out and not) and 
found all perfectly fine and was happy with all these for years. I did 
like the Flyer best on my Appaloosa to help cushion the bumpy roads here, 
with the Selle Anatomica on my Homer my next favorite.  Then, I tired a B67 
and B68.  These wider models are better (perfect) for *my *sits bones, so I 
now have B68s on my Homer and Platy and a B67 on a Handsome She-Devil 
short-chain-stay errand/lock up bike.  It is amazing how the springs even 
out the ride, without noticing any bounce, but the long wheelbase of your 
Clem might be doing that enough for you already.

I think if you get your preference (sprung or not), and correct width 
(wider nor less wide), you'd be happy with any of the above.  Perhaps you 
can find the width of the SQ Lab saddle to help you decide on the saddle 
width needed; then you just need your preference.

Roberta

On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 11:58:04 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good Morning folks. So, I need a saddle for my new Clem. FYI, I have a SQ 
> Lab saddle on my Jones 29 and am very comfortable. But it is kind of ugly. 
> So, thinking of Giving a Brooks a try. B67 or B17? Pretty upright position 
> for this old man, Bosco bar with 85mm stem. Only move hands forward for a 
> short break or reprieve from a headwind. Suggestions welcome.

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Re: [RBW] ISO Large HubbuHHubbuH

[Matthew Williams]

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-hubbuh-hubbuh/7428745682.html


On Jan 7, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Devin Chalmers  wrote:

> Howdy all! This is probably a vain attempt, but I wonder if anyone here is 
> sitting on a large sized Hubbuh you're not using. I missed out when the last 
> one was for sale a few months ago and it's been keeping me up at night. Let 
> me know if you've got one that needs a nurturing new home, my baby needs a 
> new pair of cranksets.
> 
> devin c
> oakland
> 
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[RBW] WTB: Soma/New Albion SC Crankset (or other Sugino Style Crank with Chainring Guard)

[mike young]

Also described as the "Clipper" crankset. Let me know if you have this or 
something similar with a chainring guard.

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/crank-kahlfn5454jg?variant=30700190564463

Thanks,

Mike

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[RBW] ISO Large HubbuHHubbuH

[Devin Chalmers]

Howdy all! This is probably a vain attempt, but I wonder if anyone here is 
sitting on a large sized Hubbuh you're not using. I missed out when the 
last one was for sale a few months ago and it's been keeping me up at 
night. Let me know if you've got one that needs a nurturing new home, my 
baby needs a new pair of cranksets.

devin c
oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Davey Struthers]

I'm also in this boat, 5'8 long inseam went for the large because I wanted
29 wheels.
I have a crust bj stem 31.8 30mm that I'm thinking might work with
tumbleweed bars I have, could be too short though. I'd also like the crust
ui stem or any of the analog options, I'm also just guessing what the reach
might be,  assuming that it will be loong for me!
I do like the look of the more traditional riv hilli builds (mostly gus's)
on insta with tosco bullmoose but also the newer builds with short stems
and less sweep bars, so I'm torn and too excited to just wait to sit on it
and see!
Hopefully faceplater stems are magically in stock when the frames arrive!

Cheers
Dave

On Fri., Jan. 7, 2022, 9:42 p.m. Jared Wilson,  wrote:

> Oh wow, if I found myself in that position I'd be making the same call.
>
> And I thought building bikes was expensive here in CA...
>
> Jared
>
> On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 8:41:30 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Jared, that JJJ bar looks *really* nice. I 100% agree that the finish on
>> the Jones bar is not up to snuff. Certainly not Nitto standards.
>> I'm going to end up with the Jones bar I think because I can get one from
>> my LBS. Just for an example, that Analog stem is going to cost $81.87 to
>> ship to me. I have emailed them to see if they can ship cheaper than that
>> but with DHL being the only reliable international shippers these days that
>> is just how much it costs.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

[Sam Mack]

those look familiar! Arb and i talk about your bars all the time Tim! 

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 11:45:56 AM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> I'll add another recommendation for Doom Bars. Here's a pic of mine in the 
> garage at work- too cold to stop for a photo on the way in. They have the 
> bend angle of albatross with no forward sweep, around 68cm wide. Best bars 
> I've ridden! Took around a month to get them. He was easy to work with and 
> the pricing was around what the ortho bars would have cost.
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> As stated above, use a vice sandwiched between 2x6. Steel bar. Do not 
>> bend aluminum bars!
>> I was waiting for Ron’s bars since the first photo leak. Saw the post 
>> here that they were in stock but couldn’t get to them in time. Oh well 
>> hopefully they will come around again soon!
>>
>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Keith – Not sure of the exact process but I've seen a short vid of Ron 
>>> bending bars. He had the handlebars in a bench vise sandwiched between two 
>>> 2x6s. He then pulled on the bars with all his weight. No idea what the 
>>> original bars are. 
>>>
>>> As Mike suggests DoomBars seems to be a good way to go. Who knows 
>>> if/when these will be re-stocked at Crust. I think this now-sold-out 
>>> shipment had been delayed several months. 
>>>
>>> Thanks to Ed and Taylor regarding shipping, I didn't realize they were 
>>> issuing refunds. I just removed the bar tape from my order. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 6:44:44 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>

 Well, I somehow missed this altogether.  Interesting though because 
 that's exactly what I dream about doing to my own bosco bars every time  
 use them.  Does anyboby know where to find reference to Ron first bending 
 his own?  Were they aluminum or steel?  Mine are steel, and I worry about 
 the "dull- bright" Nitto finish cracking if it's plating based.  
 Otherwise, 
 I'm comfortable packing them full of sand and taking a tubing bender to 
 them. 
 On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I had a set in my shopping cart and got sidetracked at work and when I 
> checked back an hour later they were sold out :-(
>
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:35:53 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> I've been waiting since February last year for these bars and have 
>> checked the website at least once a week in that interval. I really 
>> wanted 
>> them for a Susie build.
>>
>> They are now sold out.
>>
>> *sigh*
>>
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[RBW] Brooks Saddle on a Clem

[Richard Rose]

Good Morning folks. So, I need a saddle for my new Clem. FYI, I have a SQ 
Lab saddle on my Jones 29 and am very comfortable. But it is kind of ugly. 
So, thinking of Giving a Brooks a try. B67 or B17? Pretty upright position 
for this old man, Bosco bar with 85mm stem. Only move hands forward for a 
short break or reprieve from a headwind. Suggestions welcome.

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[RBW] Re: Platypus Questions

[Hugo Halder]

Any suggestions with regards to putting it on a work stand? For some 
reason, it feels wobbly when I clamp the seat post, but I probably just 
need to get used to it and trust that it will be okay.

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 5:45:07 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Hi, Hugo. 
>
> I'm so glad you're enjoying the ride of your bike.  Me, too! I had a stand 
> (no kick.  you'd remove it when not in use) that attached to the rear 
> axle.  While that worked perfect for my shorter chain stay Homer, there was 
> too much weight in front and Platy would get tipsy.  I opted for the 
> standard Greenfield single leg kickstand with the foot, so it wouldn't mar 
> my floor.  Works perfectly.  <$20.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 4:19:59 PM UTC-5 hugohal...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone, I have been enjoying my 60cm Platypus since I received it in 
>> October. On rides, I have been loving the extra long top tube, however, it 
>> has made the bike unwieldy when it is in storage, on the repair stand or 
>> locked up. Anyone else having these issues? Anyone have any suggestions for 
>> 1. a good kickstand, and 2. a good position on the repair stand? Thanks!
>>
>> As far as kickstands are concerned, I did try the single leg kick stand 
>> that came with my Big Dummy long tail cargo bike, however, it did not work. 
>> The Big Dummy's extra length is in the extra long chain stay whereas the 
>> Platypus's extra length is in every part of the geometry being stretched 
>> out. I also purchased a Pletscher twin kickstand, however it appears that 
>> the kickstand plate on the Platypus is built only for a single kick stand. 
>> Has anyone had any luck getting the twin on the Platypus, or should I just 
>> shell out and get one of the recommended kickstands from Riv? If so, does 
>> someone recommend a specific model for the Platypus?
>>
>> Thanks! - HH 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

[Brian McDermott]

I emailed VO about the flat pack rack a few weeks ago. I guess they're 
reissuing it with better hardware, and they got the protos for the new 
hardware about a month ago. They said they're hoping to have the new 
version up in the spring. 

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 8:29:39 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> I've been waiting for a year to buy a quill faceplate stem from Velo 
> Orange. Ditto with their flat pack rack.  So it's not unique to Riv.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:04:32 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
>> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
>> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
>> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
>> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
>> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
>> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
>> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
>> goes on.
>>
>> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
>> Doug
>> Athens, Ga
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

[Brian McDermott]

I was lucky enough to snag a pair. Will report findings once I get them on 
a bike!

On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 8:45:18 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Keith – Not sure of the exact process but I've seen a short vid of Ron 
> bending bars. He had the handlebars in a bench vise sandwiched between two 
> 2x6s. He then pulled on the bars with all his weight. No idea what the 
> original bars are. 
>
> As Mike suggests DoomBars seems to be a good way to go. Who knows if/when 
> these will be re-stocked at Crust. I think this now-sold-out shipment had 
> been delayed several months. 
>
> Thanks to Ed and Taylor regarding shipping, I didn't realize they were 
> issuing refunds. I just removed the bar tape from my order. 
>
> On Thursday, January 6, 2022 at 6:44:44 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I somehow missed this altogether.  Interesting though because 
>> that's exactly what I dream about doing to my own bosco bars every time  
>> use them.  Does anyboby know where to find reference to Ron first bending 
>> his own?  Were they aluminum or steel?  Mine are steel, and I worry about 
>> the "dull- bright" Nitto finish cracking if it's plating based.  Otherwise, 
>> I'm comfortable packing them full of sand and taking a tubing bender to 
>> them. 
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:57:47 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a set in my shopping cart and got sidetracked at work and when I 
>>> checked back an hour later they were sold out :-(
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:35:53 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I've been waiting since February last year for these bars and have 
 checked the website at least once a week in that interval. I really wanted 
 them for a Susie build.

 They are now sold out.

 *sigh*

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Inventory

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Strikes me that there's substantial overlap among frame models, which must 
create inventory challenges.

~pb

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:04:32 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Covid has wreaked havoc on the bicycle industry as well as many others. 
> Supply Chain is the latest phrase we all know too well these days. But, 
> Rivendell needs in my humble non-business owner opinion to buy more 
> inventory. I seem to remember they like to pay for all purchases without 
> using a credit line and that seems reasonable at first thought. But, I 
> think they would increase sales to a large extent if they would bring in 
> more product. A case in point are the knickers that went up for sale and 
> sold out in two days! Brass headset spacers are rarely available. The list 
> goes on.
>
> Just a thought I had as I was ready to buy a pair of knickers to no avail.
> Doug
> Athens, Ga
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[RBW] Re: An Appaloosa build video

[Jaden Salama]

Brendon, That was a wonderful video. I didn't think any of the footage was 
bad, and you should give your partner props, they did a great job editing. 
I did laugh at the "parts bin" comment in the video description; I wish I 
had a parts bin like that! 
Cheers,
Jaden Salama

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 1:39:55 AM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> A first time try at a filming/editing project by my partner and I. Footage 
> is from April 2021. For the bike savvy there are a lot of non-sequiturs 
> here.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2huyxqj0_I
>
> Thanks for your time and I hope you enjoy!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

[Richard Rose]

I never noticed this Crust bar before. But, since my (first ever) new 
conversation seems to be in a holding pattern.., my new to me Clem came with a 
65cm wide Tosco bar (similar) with 31.8 clamp size that is simply too wide for 
me. I also have the 31.8 FacePlater stem in 135 length - too long for me. These 
will both be for sale as soon as I am allowed to post them. New ones are 
already on their way from Rivendell.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, Lucky, he's got them on the S-works. Also on his Atlantis. 
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> "Xtreme comfort tech"
>> 
>> I love it 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:49:06 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Some have cyclers have been waiting for these, Ron's swept-back super wide 
>>> bars. They quietly went up on the Crust site this week. I believe these are 
>>> based on Bosco bars that Ron modified by somehow flattening and bending 
>>> them to make 'em wider.  
>>> 
>>> https://crustbikes.com/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up
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[RBW] New Clem & Group usage issues & possible stem / bar swap?

[Richard Rose]

Yeah, so first thing first; I left my house at 7:30 this morning and drove 
300 round trip miles from Toledo, Ohio to Midland, Michigan & back. I was 
home at 1:00. Quick trip to bring home this Clem. I would post some nice 
pics except it is pretty inconvenient as the pics are on my phone & I 
cannot start a new conversation from my phone. Frustrating.
But, the Clem (first Riv) is lovely.
This brand new but second owner Clem comes with 135mm FacePlater 31.8 clamp 
diameter stem and 65cm Tosco bar, both gorgeous! Alas the stem is WAY too 
long for me and the bar may be too wide. So I am wondering if anyone might 
be interested in a trade?
Also, does anyone find that with the relatively slack seat tube that you 
require a zero offset post?
Happy to be here & thanks,
Richard

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Re: [RBW] Re: Loving the Clem Jr!!

[Richard Rose]

I second the Cyclemeter suggestion. I was given a tip that if you operate it in 
airplane mode it saves battery use. Also, you can set it to automatically 
upload to Strava with the paid subscription which I highly recommend. And you 
can upload routes as well though I have not tried to do so yet. I did the back 
pocket thing for a long time - I finally got the quad lock and it’s pretty 
great even though it does disturb the “clean” cockpit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2022, at 4:06 PM, Patrick Mooreave wrote:
> 
> 
> Quadlock or not, I too like the simplicity (= "Do not duplicate electric 
> devises praeter necessitatem) of using my many-gens-old iPhone to track miles 
> and routes, and I heartily recommend Cyclemeter, free version, which I've 
> used for 6-7 years. I tried Strava and didn't like it for some reason (too 
> long ago to remember why), and I've tried other apps but Cyclemeter seems to 
> be the nice balance between information provided and hassle of use. 
> 
> The big benefit of phone apps for cycling like Cyclemeter is that you can 
> have just one electric device for as many bikes as you like; no need for a 
> separate computer for each bike.
> 
> Patrick Moore, who wishes that the Clem could take 622 X 76 mm tires.
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 1:42 PM Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>> @Doug I am not the OP but I just use apps on my phone. Strava or RideGPS. My 
>> phone plus a quadlock mount is the best GPS system out there. Depending on 
>> the app you can assign rides to certain bikes but still see cumulative 
>> miles. I have quadlock mounts on all of my bikes.
>> 
>>> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:59:06 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I agree that Clem L's ride so nice! How do you track miles? I'm looking to 
>>> buy a GPS unit so I can use it on any bike I ride so I'll get cumulative 
>>> miles not just per bike.
>>> Doug
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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c wheelsets- one with Schmidt Son 28 dyno hub

[a spen]

Payment has been made for the Dyno hub, and both wheelsets are spoken for.
Thanks to all for the interest, & apologies if I missed responding to any 
of the inquiries.  These generated (a pun?) a lot of interest, more than I 
had anticipated.
Al-in-VA

On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 2:23:41 PM UTC-5 a spen wrote:

> Payment made for the H+Son wheelset.
>
> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 1:54:51 PM UTC-5 a spen wrote:
>
>> Sale pending payment for the H+Son set.  I'll update after deal is 
>> finalized.
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 1:15:20 PM UTC-5 a spen wrote:
>>
>>> Sale pending payment for the VO dyno set.  The other set is still 
>>> available.  I'll post when payment has been made.
>>> Thanks
>>> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 11:43:50 AM UTC-5 a spen wrote:
>>>
 Hi Riv-folk,
 I have two 700 c wheel sets available (Link to CL post with pics below)

 1) The first set is built up with Velo Orange rims and Schmidt Son 28 
 Dyno Hub front, and Grand Bois hub on rear. Both are 36-spoke, 100/130 
 spacing, 22 mm outer width, high polish. Tires are Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
 44 mm front and Stampede Pass 32 mm on rear. These have very low mileage, 
 lightly used, true and in excellent condition. I bought them for a 
 Rambouilliet but then regrettably sold the Ram too soon.
 --$400 /set.

 2) The second set is built up with H Plus Son rims, Shimano 105 hubs 
 front and rear, 32 spoke, 100/130 spacing, 22 mm outer width. These are 
 low 
 mileage, true, low use, with some minor cosmetic dimples on the high 
 polish 
 finish, that could easily be buffed out.
 --$175/set

 Shipping approx. ~$40 conus

 Please feel free to message me with questions, inquiries, request, 
 suggestions, etc.
 Thanks!
 Al-in-VA


 blacksburg.craigslist.org/bop/d/blacksburg-700c-wheelsets-one-with/7430219192.html

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: continuing to ride desire

['tim petersen' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 "More specific trail recommendations" would be fun!
On Saturday, January 8, 2022, 12:10:46 PM CST, Eric Marth 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm surprised there aren't more specific trail and route recommendations. 
California, Utah, Florida, Texas, warm climes in the CONUS worth visiting 
during the WI winter! 

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:

+1 on this. For the cost of a vacation, you can probably get a fat bike (if you 
can find one!) and I'm sure there are trails good for snow biking in WI.
Chris

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 6:56:35 AM UTC-5 stevef wrote:

Not a Riv option but have you considered buying a Fat Bike?  

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:37:29 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

I'm in Charlotte, NC and ride daily.  Today was 56F and sunny.  Some cooler 
days but there's usually a warm day not too far away.  I'm on Warm Showers if 
you want to come here and I have a Cheviot in the garage for you to ride.  Or 
Southwest and American fly your bike as a normal bag fee if boxed.  (lookup 
dimensions).  Vaccinations and booster required for an indoor stay.  Otherwise 
the backporch is always available.

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

It's usually cheap to fly to Las Vegas, and there's abundant trails all around, 
plus January/February is lovely weatherwise. Just don't gamble.-Kai

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 8:07:30 AM UTC-5 peec...@yahoo.com wrote:

I ride my Atlantis MIT from March going forward until the ice and snow fall.  I 
have lost the enthusiasm for studded tire riding in the cold.  I like to ride 
trails primarily.  Weather here in LaCrosse, WI has turned nasty and I am 
missing riding.  I've got the time to venture somewhere warm where there is 
abundant trail riding and am asking the group for suggestions.  Thanks in 
advance.  I may not go anywhere, given COVID, but I can always dream.  Tim 
Petersen.






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