[RBW] Re: Clem L For Sale

[YQ]

Hi Doug -- as we discussed, I would like to buy your Clem for $2,265, 
shipping included in price, payment via PayPal Goods and Services. When you 
have a chance, please send me an email and let me know where to send the 
payment. 

Thanks very much,
Yakeen

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> This is a bump and an update. I installed a Microshift thumb shifter 
> today, indexed, and I think it looks better than the bar end and works just 
> as well. I rode to adjust the shifting and the Clem rides so well! I just 
> want a more road-oriented bicycle. Still listed at $2,200 plus shipping. 
> Mint with upgraded wheels and tires as compared to stock.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>> I updated the linked album with better photos of the Clem L. It comes 
>> just as shown as I removed the lights and bell that I want to keep. It is 
>> in mint condition and shipping is available. Let's say $2,200 plus shipping 
>> OBO. I paid $2,500 as it was a Rivendell build and not stock but it is a 
>> "used" bicycle.
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:37:12 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Or best offer...
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 5:20:16 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 After a few months of riding and enjoying my Clem L I have decided to 
 sell it. I ride almost exclusively on the roads and lately in group rides. 
 I much prefer not to ship but know that is the likely scenario. I'm in 
 Athens, Ga so if you are within 100 miles or so I can meet you. Otherwise 
 I 
 can get a shipping quote based on your location. Photos in the link:

 Clem L Photos 

 This is a like new Lime Olive Clem L size 52 with 650b wheels. 1x10 
 with a Microshift bar end shifter. Tosco bars and Nitto stem. Black 172.5 
 mm Clipper crank arms and 38 tooth chain ring with guard. Velocity 
 Cliffhanger wheels 32 spoke front, 36 rear. Deore hubs. Teravail Ehline 
 black wall tires. Shimano Deore v-brakes. MKS Grip Monarch pedals. Saddle 
 will be a like new black Giant saddle, not the Brooks shown in the photos. 
 This frame was built up by Rivendell, not a stock build. Asking $2,400 
 plus 
 shipping.
 Doug
 Athens, Ga

>>>

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[RBW] Re: BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Minh]

not sure if it was intentional or the angle of the camera, but that bit at 
the beginning where he's squeezing thru traffic gave me so much anxiety.  
i'm living in NYC now and i've always wanted to do this but the crowds and 
logistics.  i feel a little too old for that much adventure

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 9:20:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Me too, Pam! Rivendells only. I have no idea how I’d get the logistics to 
> work, but If I’m riding the Five Borough Tour, it’s going to be astride a 
> Platypus!
> Leah
>
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:37:39 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> My friend has signed up for this year.  Maybe we should all plan on going 
>> one year.  I'll give you her report afterwards.  She's renting a bike but 
>> I'd only want to do it on mine.  
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-5 Steve Cole wrote:
>>
>>> I still think of the time I did the 5-borough ride as the most fun I've 
>>> had on a bike.  It was not hot the day I rode.  When we reached the 
>>> Verrazano Narrows Bridge, we rode on the lower deck in the shade and, 
>>> honestly, I was very cold.  We arrived the day before, stayed in Manhattan 
>>> and rode around the city all day -- fun!!!  At the end of the ride on 
>>> Staten Island, I met another rider who cycled the 50 miles on an Atlantis. 
>>>  Years later, I purchased my own Atlantis, recalling how beautiful I 
>>> thought the Atlantis I saw that day was.  If you love cities, don't love 
>>> cars, what better thing to do than ride carless NYC streets.  There were 
>>> loads of cyclists on all types of bikes.  Still, I never felt crowded.  If 
>>> you have the time, go for this.  And, be prepared to smile at your great 
>>> good fortune.
>>>
>>> Steve Cole
>>> Arlington, Virginia
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 5:25:45 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 Roberta,

 Do it and take a friend. 

 Arrive early-ish to the start, that was the basis of my only 
 hesitations of doing it again, we had trouble finding the rental outfit we 
 had arranged for a bike m wife wanted to use. Ride with amazement and awe 
 through streets of a city you'd never seen like this before and respect 
 the 
 limitations of being amongst so many other cyclists (no sudden stops or 
 turns). Riders will begin to be stretched out by the time you're out of 
 Manhattan. There are multiple facets of this ride to appreciate besides 
 the 
 strictly cycling part. Have those on you day's bucket list and you'll be 
 hooked. I'm good riding very slowly, I think that's a Rivendell handling 
 check box and it was useful in the beginning.

 As Dave points out, Drive to and park in Staten island at the terminal 
 lots and take the ferry over to Battery Park first thing in the morning 
 and 
 be ready to queue up at the start area. We stayed in Newark the night 
 before, just made things easier with included on-site included parking and 
 restaurants. An easy trip to the ferry terminal in the morning, a very 
 simple exit for our departure (I had a longer drive that you will). the 
 convenience of proximity to the start of this event is only the sweet song 
 of Lorelei and those staying in town longer.

 I reported previously that during the ride my orange Rambouillet was 
 called out repeatedly. I was told how well it fit me and how nice it was 
 that my wife (*and many proximate riders of much more expensive 
 "modern" bikes*) seemed irked by the repetitive attention. "Are these 
 the people you email on those bike lists?" my wife asked. It was 
 enlightening to see how many normal riders participated, very few 
 displayed 
 the "I'm going to crush this" attitude, or were bent on trying to set a 
 fastest known time imprinting the fun event with their minority raciness. 

 Take advantage of every organized rest stop. We did not and as it 
 became hotter and the route merged onto the Gowanus Parkway, an elevated 
 limited access roadway, going south toward the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, 
 my 
 wife was out of water, snacks and bonked (*too casual with event prep, 
 "It's only 40 miles"*). Plan to have some goodies and extra water in 
 your bag as well as necessary weather preps be it sunscreen or rain gear 
 and insulating layers. It's a day and things happen.

 We couldn't hang around for the post ride entertainment too long since 
 I had to work in the morning so we loaded up and had an easy exit from 
 Staten Island and the five and a half hour trip home. 

 Sorry none of these are high quality, but you get the idea. From a 
 folder recovered as thumbnails only.

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uo5FPXmHE2wsTRhZA

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Here's a promotion 

[RBW] Re: BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Me too, Pam! Rivendells only. I have no idea how I’d get the logistics to 
work, but If I’m riding the Five Borough Tour, it’s going to be astride a 
Platypus!
Leah

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:37:39 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> My friend has signed up for this year.  Maybe we should all plan on going 
> one year.  I'll give you her report afterwards.  She's renting a bike but 
> I'd only want to do it on mine.  
>
> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 7:58:22 AM UTC-5 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> I still think of the time I did the 5-borough ride as the most fun I've 
>> had on a bike.  It was not hot the day I rode.  When we reached the 
>> Verrazano Narrows Bridge, we rode on the lower deck in the shade and, 
>> honestly, I was very cold.  We arrived the day before, stayed in Manhattan 
>> and rode around the city all day -- fun!!!  At the end of the ride on 
>> Staten Island, I met another rider who cycled the 50 miles on an Atlantis. 
>>  Years later, I purchased my own Atlantis, recalling how beautiful I 
>> thought the Atlantis I saw that day was.  If you love cities, don't love 
>> cars, what better thing to do than ride carless NYC streets.  There were 
>> loads of cyclists on all types of bikes.  Still, I never felt crowded.  If 
>> you have the time, go for this.  And, be prepared to smile at your great 
>> good fortune.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, Virginia
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 5:25:45 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta,
>>>
>>> Do it and take a friend. 
>>>
>>> Arrive early-ish to the start, that was the basis of my only hesitations 
>>> of doing it again, we had trouble finding the rental outfit we had arranged 
>>> for a bike m wife wanted to use. Ride with amazement and awe through 
>>> streets of a city you'd never seen like this before and respect the 
>>> limitations of being amongst so many other cyclists (no sudden stops or 
>>> turns). Riders will begin to be stretched out by the time you're out of 
>>> Manhattan. There are multiple facets of this ride to appreciate besides the 
>>> strictly cycling part. Have those on you day's bucket list and you'll be 
>>> hooked. I'm good riding very slowly, I think that's a Rivendell handling 
>>> check box and it was useful in the beginning.
>>>
>>> As Dave points out, Drive to and park in Staten island at the terminal 
>>> lots and take the ferry over to Battery Park first thing in the morning and 
>>> be ready to queue up at the start area. We stayed in Newark the night 
>>> before, just made things easier with included on-site included parking and 
>>> restaurants. An easy trip to the ferry terminal in the morning, a very 
>>> simple exit for our departure (I had a longer drive that you will). the 
>>> convenience of proximity to the start of this event is only the sweet song 
>>> of Lorelei and those staying in town longer.
>>>
>>> I reported previously that during the ride my orange Rambouillet was 
>>> called out repeatedly. I was told how well it fit me and how nice it was 
>>> that my wife (*and many proximate riders of much more expensive 
>>> "modern" bikes*) seemed irked by the repetitive attention. "Are these 
>>> the people you email on those bike lists?" my wife asked. It was 
>>> enlightening to see how many normal riders participated, very few displayed 
>>> the "I'm going to crush this" attitude, or were bent on trying to set a 
>>> fastest known time imprinting the fun event with their minority raciness. 
>>>
>>> Take advantage of every organized rest stop. We did not and as it became 
>>> hotter and the route merged onto the Gowanus Parkway, an elevated limited 
>>> access roadway, going south toward the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, my wife 
>>> was out of water, snacks and bonked (*too casual with event prep, "It's 
>>> only 40 miles"*). Plan to have some goodies and extra water in your bag 
>>> as well as necessary weather preps be it sunscreen or rain gear and 
>>> insulating layers. It's a day and things happen.
>>>
>>> We couldn't hang around for the post ride entertainment too long since I 
>>> had to work in the morning so we loaded up and had an easy exit from Staten 
>>> Island and the five and a half hour trip home. 
>>>
>>> Sorry none of these are high quality, but you get the idea. From a 
>>> folder recovered as thumbnails only.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uo5FPXmHE2wsTRhZA
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Here's a promotion that Bike Snob NYC did with Terry Barentsen.  Looks 
 like fun.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A

 Is it worth it?  Most reviews I've heard basically say it's fun one 
 time, but wouldn't do it again.  

 Roberta

>>>

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[Roberta]

I was all set to sign up (my first big group ride years ago was so much 
fun), but I realized I won't be able to make it this year.  Sad...  Pam--I 
love the idea of a bunch of us meeting up to do this together.  I've done 
bike tours in San Francisco and NY's Central Park, but this would have been 
the next level.  Perhaps next year for me.  In the meantime, I hoping that 
many of you share your pictures and ride reports.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:40:28 PM UTC-5 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:

> Hi Roberta,
>
> It's a load of fun (I've done it twice, many years ago). The ride through 
> Manhattan is amazing, but since it's right after the mass start, it's super 
> packed and you need to be on guard against collisions from 
> inexperienced/distracted riders. But after the pack spreads out, it becomes 
> really enjoyable -- and one gets to ride on roads that would be either 
> illegal or suicidal otherwise!
>
> Also recommend leaving your car at or near the Staten Island ferry 
> terminal.
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Roberta]

This is my third week manually commuting.  

The first week, I split the commute days between walking and riding. Sure, 
it's cold on a bike when it's 25* , but I was to my destination in 12 
minutes vs 32-34 walk (you have to stop a lot at red lights in the city). I 
did not like the backpack, because riding generated a lot of heat and my 
back got moist.Last week it rained nearly every day, so I walked or 
walked/bussed.  If it stops raining tonight, I'll take my Platy tomorrow.  
Or, whenever it dries out.

I received a couple of generous offers to try now-unneeded panniers and 
backpack/pannier combos, and I'm going to try the panniers,  meeting 
generous person tomorrow for the hand-off.  I already used Tom's bag in a 
bag suggestion and it worked well.  I'll probably bring all my shoes/pants 
on day one and wear my shirts.  John, I'll probably put th small saddle 
sack on the Homer to switch it up between that and Platy for long after 
work rides.  The She-devil is great for in town, but I'd rather ride my 
Rivs for pure pleasure.

Toshi, I invested in HexLox that BicycleBelleDingDing (Leah) recommended.  
I guess it's time to put them on!

Emily and Ezree, I was really tempted by PoCampo's Bergen pannier, but got 
other offers, so will try local one. Bergen is practical and pretty.  
Perhaps I need another bike (not) to justify a Bergen purchase...

I'll post a picture once the Platy is setup.  I'm sure that  come 
springtime, my commute home will be about 20 miles. Yea!


On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:56:28 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> Panniers for sure, and I would recommend getting Pitlock(for wheels) 
> /pitstoppers (or equivalent) for the allen bolts so that you can feel 
> comfortable going in for a quick shopping trip without having your wheels 
> and saddle stolen etc (and not having to carry a bunch of cables with your 
> bike lock).  I am lucky to be able to commute on my Cheviot at least a 
> couple times a week.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:48 PM KenP  wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>>   Did anyone make a suggestion to develop a to-do/to-bring checklist?   
>>  It took me a few months to develop a routine, gradually finding out what 
>> is needed for each trip and season.
>> Your needs will vary.  I have to remember my lights and to charge them 
>> the night before, my clothes, though I keep a set at my desk, water, bike 
>> tools, spare tube, lock and key, sun lotion, a magazine to read at lunch 
>> (and the bag lunch); we have to take our temperature at home before we can 
>> enter the office.  Lots of things to remember.  So, a list helps.
>> Inevitably I will forget something.  Just this week I forgot to bring a 
>> belt and now there's a new use for a bunch of Irish straps.
>> Ken 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I 
>>> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been 
>>> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain, 
>>> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day, 
>>> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.  
>>> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can 
>>> take the bike into my office.
>>>
>>> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What 
>>> do you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not 
>>> not sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag 
>>> (I have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the 
>>> back of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>>>
>>> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other 
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Roberta

If only pants are required to be carried, then you RBW small saddlesack 
should suffice and they would on a flat level surface.  If not maybe the 
medium saddlesack they sell.

I was always told to avoid carrying extra weight on your body like a 
backpack with a load.  The load is better on the frame

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 11:17:26 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> These days it's semi-casual, but I still need to look sort-of 
> professional.  I wear my top and  just change my shoes and pants because 
> they can get dirty on the trip.  Last week I got one leg soaked when a 
> driver ran over a big puddle at full speed.  
>
> I think I'll keep shoes in the office, so will only be totting pants and 
> lunch.  I am going to try Tom's bag in a pannier option on my Platypus, and 
> with the bag in a basket option on the She-Devil.  
>
> I loved reading everyone's responses and seeing your enthusiasm.  Thank 
> you.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 12:33:47 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>> One thing I may have missed is what sort of work attire do you need to 
>> carry?
>> Two miles is a relatively short distance and unless it’s really humid or 
>> raining, you may not need to change. 
>> If your clothes need to be neatly pressed then you will need to keep them 
>> neatly folded for your commute. 
>> A basked with some sort of tote bag would likely cover most of your needs 
>> and keeping some work clothes at work could cover you for the days you 
>> really need to change. 
>> When I commuted 10 miles each way, I changed at work. 
>> When I commuted 3 miles each way, I rode in my work clothes. 
>> Neither job required dress attire. 
>> A backpack in hot weather doesn’t appeal to me but 2 miles gives to tons 
>> of flexibility. 
>>
>> Congratulations on your short commute. What a blessing to have so many 
>> hours liberated from your workweek. 
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:57:50 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> *" I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide it 
>>> inside the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff more 
>>> organized. "--Tom*
>>>
>>>
>>> This is brilliant!!!  I like simplicity and no fuss.  The She-Devil 
>>> already has a basket and the Platypus, I expect, will soon have panniers.  
>>> If I take my third bike H. Homer Hilsen for a long after work ride, I can 
>>> use the Riv Saddle Sack, so it won't matter which bike I'll take--I'll be 
>>> set.
>>>
>>> It's so great reading about everyone's experiences.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 2:44:41 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
 In my years of commuting I've used:
 1) Milk Crate
 2) Wald Basket
 3) Panniers
 4) Saddle Bag (Riv Large Saddle Sack)

 I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
 
  
 that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide 
 it *inside 
 *the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff more 
 organized. I also sling it on my back when I'm locking up my bike, etc. . 
 I 
 borrowed the idea from a friend, so I can't take credit.  If you use a  
 basket I recommend a foam pad for the bottom, though.
 For short trips my preference would be a basket.  It stays on the bike, 
 is transparent to the wind when empty, and keeps my stuff in view. 

 Tom

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Panniers for sure, and I would recommend getting Pitlock(for wheels)
/pitstoppers (or equivalent) for the allen bolts so that you can feel
comfortable going in for a quick shopping trip without having your wheels
and saddle stolen etc (and not having to carry a bunch of cables with your
bike lock).  I am lucky to be able to commute on my Cheviot at least a
couple times a week.

Toshi


On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:48 PM KenP  wrote:

> Roberta,
>   Did anyone make a suggestion to develop a to-do/to-bring checklist?
>  It took me a few months to develop a routine, gradually finding out what
> is needed for each trip and season.
> Your needs will vary.  I have to remember my lights and to charge them the
> night before, my clothes, though I keep a set at my desk, water, bike
> tools, spare tube, lock and key, sun lotion, a magazine to read at lunch
> (and the bag lunch); we have to take our temperature at home before we can
> enter the office.  Lots of things to remember.  So, a list helps.
> Inevitably I will forget something.  Just this week I forgot to bring a
> belt and now there's a new use for a bunch of Irish straps.
> Ken
>
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I
>> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been
>> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain,
>> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day,
>> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.
>> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can
>> take the bike into my office.
>>
>> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What do
>> you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not not
>> sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag (I
>> have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the back
>> of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>>
>> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Roberta
>>
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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[KenP]

Roberta,
  Did anyone make a suggestion to develop a to-do/to-bring checklist?It 
took me a few months to develop a routine, gradually finding out what is 
needed for each trip and season.
Your needs will vary.  I have to remember my lights and to charge them the 
night before, my clothes, though I keep a set at my desk, water, bike 
tools, spare tube, lock and key, sun lotion, a magazine to read at lunch 
(and the bag lunch); we have to take our temperature at home before we can 
enter the office.  Lots of things to remember.  So, a list helps.
Inevitably I will forget something.  Just this week I forgot to bring a 
belt and now there's a new use for a bunch of Irish straps.
Ken 
   

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I 
> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been 
> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain, 
> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day, 
> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.  
> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can 
> take the bike into my office.
>
> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What do 
> you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not not 
> sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag (I 
> have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the back 
> of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>
> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other suggestions?
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Price bump FS: 55cm HillborneW

[Johnny Alien]

I would be pretty interested in that front rack if you wanted to sell that 
off separate from the bike. If you go that way shoot me a message.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 4:14:21 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Ahmed is excluding a $200 saddle and $75 pedals.  He's pictured the bike 
> without the $40 basket.  He's dropped the price a full $400, so he's paying 
> more than retail buying back those parts from the future buyer.  
>
> ...but now you've added a $240 rear rack in the photos?  Is that $240 
> included?  If so, you've dropped the price of the bike a TON.  My advice 
> would be to take the racks off and sell them.  That rear rack (the 33R) is 
> sold out at Riv.  Somebody has got to want that.  
>
> Bill "free sales consultant" Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:11:25 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have 
>> updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>> Ahmed in San Mateo 
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:31 PM Ahmed Elgasseir  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tips David! I’ll get on it and update the posting. Glad 
>>> you’re enjoying the Roadeo. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it. :-)
>>>
>>> Best
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:14 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Ahmed,
 I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post at 
 least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite 
 individual. 
 Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and 
 represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 
 And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 
 Now you can offer the more essential Sam.
 Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive 
 side picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)
 I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.
 David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. 
> Thank you!
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:
>
>> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ahmed, 

 Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the 
 rolling chassis? 

 Brady in SLC

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir 
 wrote:

> Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 
>
> Best
> A
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>>
>> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you 
>> sold the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you 
>> don't like 
>> the saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could 
>> also 
>> lower the price of the remaining build.  You could do something 
>> similar 
>> with the front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and 
>> currently 
>> sold out at Riv.  
>>
>> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to 
>> buy a Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and 
>> paying full 
>> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could 
>> sell it 
>> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and 
>> saddle.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's try this again
>>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity 
>>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
>>> seatpost 
>>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape 
>>> with stem 
>>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles 
>>> on it. 
>>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>>> prefer 
>>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on 
>>> Craigslist. 
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Emily Guise]

Congrats on the new commute, Roberta! Biking to work is so great, and now 
that I'm working from home, I miss it a lot. My own stuff carrying 
evolution went from backpack -> backpack in milk crate on a rear rack -> 
Dutch style double panniers -> Ortleib pannier -> tote-bag style pannier 
(more professional looking than an Ortleib off the bike) -> back to a 
backpack inside the Dutch style panniers, which kept it dry and also left 
room for errands on the way home. I also had baskets up front, because 
baskets are the best. 

On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 9:40:40 AM UTC-8 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:

> It's slightly off the topic of commuting bags, but over the many years I 
> have commuted via pedals (from age 17 to age 61), I discovered that a 
> single speed or fixed gear commute bike was ideal: much fewer repairs, no 
> malfunctions, and really strong wheels (the latter cannot be overstressed-- 
> no pun intended)!  The Rivendell 'Quickbeam' was perfect (with moustache 
> bars to get leverage for accelerations and easy hills).  The fixed gear is 
> less ideal if you have long steep hills, but most commutes do not.  I found 
> that fixed gear was far better in terms of both speed and efficiency on my 
> commutes.  Now my commute is uphill most of the way, so I am using my 
> Teesdale touring bike, but the fixed gear was the best ever for all my 
> other flat or rolling commutes.  
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 9:27 AM  wrote:
>
>> On my commutes I also carried a large thermos full of coffee since our 
>> office coffee was pretty bad. It added weight but coffee is worth the extra 
>> effort.
>>
>> I basically work from home now so I have to find excuses to get out and 
>> do errands throughout the week to ride. 
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2022, at 8:17 AM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> These days it's semi-casual, but I still need to look sort-of 
>> professional.  I wear my top and  just change my shoes and pants because 
>> they can get dirty on the trip.  Last week I got one leg soaked when a 
>> driver ran over a big puddle at full speed.  
>>
>> I think I'll keep shoes in the office, so will only be totting pants and 
>> lunch.  I am going to try Tom's bag in a pannier option on my Platypus, and 
>> with the bag in a basket option on the She-Devil.  
>>
>> I loved reading everyone's responses and seeing your enthusiasm.  Thank 
>> you.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 12:33:47 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta,
>>> One thing I may have missed is what sort of work attire do you need to 
>>> carry?
>>> Two miles is a relatively short distance and unless it’s really humid or 
>>> raining, you may not need to change. 
>>> If your clothes need to be neatly pressed then you will need to keep 
>>> them neatly folded for your commute. 
>>> A basked with some sort of tote bag would likely cover most of your 
>>> needs and keeping some work clothes at work could cover you for the days 
>>> you really need to change. 
>>> When I commuted 10 miles each way, I changed at work. 
>>> When I commuted 3 miles each way, I rode in my work clothes. 
>>> Neither job required dress attire. 
>>> A backpack in hot weather doesn’t appeal to me but 2 miles gives to tons 
>>> of flexibility. 
>>>
>>> Congratulations on your short commute. What a blessing to have so many 
>>> hours liberated from your workweek. 
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:57:50 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 *" I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
 
  
 that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide 
 it 
 inside the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff 
 more 
 organized. "--Tom*


 This is brilliant!!!  I like simplicity and no fuss.  The She-Devil 
 already has a basket and the Platypus, I expect, will soon have panniers.  
 If I take my third bike H. Homer Hilsen for a long after work ride, I can 
 use the Riv Saddle Sack, so it won't matter which bike I'll take--I'll be 
 set.

 It's so great reading about everyone's experiences.

 Roberta

 On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 2:44:41 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> In my years of commuting I've used:
> 1) Milk Crate
> 2) Wald Basket
> 3) Panniers
> 4) Saddle Bag (Riv Large Saddle Sack)
>
> I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
> 
>  
> that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide 
> it *inside 
> *the pannier, basket 

[RBW] Re: BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Hi Roberta,

It's a load of fun (I've done it twice, many years ago). The ride through 
Manhattan is amazing, but since it's right after the mass start, it's super 
packed and you need to be on guard against collisions from 
inexperienced/distracted riders. But after the pack spreads out, it becomes 
really enjoyable -- and one gets to ride on roads that would be either 
illegal or suicidal otherwise!

Also recommend leaving your car at or near the Staten Island ferry terminal.

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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[RBW] Re: Price bump FS: 55cm HillborneW

[Bill Lindsay]

Ahmed is excluding a $200 saddle and $75 pedals.  He's pictured the bike 
without the $40 basket.  He's dropped the price a full $400, so he's paying 
more than retail buying back those parts from the future buyer.  

...but now you've added a $240 rear rack in the photos?  Is that $240 
included?  If so, you've dropped the price of the bike a TON.  My advice 
would be to take the racks off and sell them.  That rear rack (the 33R) is 
sold out at Riv.  Somebody has got to want that.  

Bill "free sales consultant" Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:11:25 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Per the advice of the esteemed Bill L. and the venerable David I have 
> updated the bike pic and price. $2500 no pedals, saddle. 
>
> Thanks! 
> Ahmed in San Mateo 
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:31 PM Ahmed Elgasseir  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tips David! I’ll get on it and update the posting. Glad 
>> you’re enjoying the Roadeo. Kinda wish I hadn’t sold it. :-)
>>
>> Best
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:14 PM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Ahmed,
>>> I'd agree with Bill: Put another saddle on (And, raise the seat post at 
>>> least two cm!) -- A Berthoud is worth too much and they are quite 
>>> individual. 
>>> Take the basket and rack off -- They obscure the view of the front and 
>>> represent one use of the bike that may narrow it down too much. 
>>> And, pull the bags off and offer them separately. 
>>> Now you can offer the more essential Sam.
>>> Turn it around and get a front quarter picture and then a full drive 
>>> side picture of the bike. (NO coffee cup!!)
>>> I'd be interested but I think I'd go for a 51cm/650b frame.
>>> David in Berkeley (Who is happy with your old 55cm Roadeo!)
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:45:56 AM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 Can’t remember off hand but I’ll take a pic and upload later today. 
 Thank you!

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM steve  wrote:

> What stem shifters are on the Sam?
>
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:14:45 AM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Possibly. What exactly are you looking for? and at what price range?
>>
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:04 AM Brady Smith  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ahmed, 
>>>
>>> Any chance you'd consider parting it out or just selling the rolling 
>>> chassis? 
>>>
>>> Brady in SLC
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 8:27:27 AM UTC-7 Ahmed Elgasseir 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the advice Bill. I’ll think on that. 

 Best
 A

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:16 AM Bill Lindsay  
 wrote:

> Ahmed is selling a $2900 Hillborne.  
>
> I notice you have a super expensive saddle on the bike.  If you 
> sold the bike with no saddle, you could drop the price.  If you don't 
> like 
> the saddle, maybe you could sell the saddle separately which could 
> also 
> lower the price of the remaining build.  You could do something 
> similar 
> with the front rack, which is pretty valuable, and desirable, and 
> currently 
> sold out at Riv.  
>
> I mention this because over on iBob, a poster is requesting to buy 
> a Berthoud Aubisque saddle, in any color, before going and paying 
> full 
> retail.  If your Berthoud saddle is an Aubisque, maybe you could sell 
> it 
> separately.  Most buyers of used bikes expect to BYO pedals and 
> saddle.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir 
> wrote:
>
>> Let's try this again
>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity 
>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
>> seatpost 
>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape 
>> with stem 
>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles 
>> on it. 
>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>> prefer 
>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on 
>> Craigslist. 
>>
>> thanks
>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Joe Bernard]

3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on my 
chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get 
queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I 
don't know what's happening under there. 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 12:35:00 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:

> 3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
>> of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
>> not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Paul Choi]

3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. 

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
> of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
> not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Ed Carolipio]

If you don't want something fancy but does the job, you can use some 
"helicopter" tape to protect the frame:

http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html (see middle of page)

I keep a 1", 8 mill roll handy. For the chainstay, I use a couple of long 
strips along the chain stay then finish off with a couple of strips around 
the kickstand plate. I also use it where cable housing rubs the head tube 
and when I have to wrap a bag strap around a frame tube.

--Ed C.
On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
> of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
> not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Joe Grandia]

I like to cut an old tube lengthwise and use that to wrap the chainstay. 
This gets the twine treatment just the same. Looks good to me, and works 
great.
I'll try to upload a photo later. 

-Joe 

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:57:51 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> If you do the newbaums and twine and shellac it, it will be pert near 
> bulletproof.
>
> -Ben in Omaha 
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 9:56:49 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
>> of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
>> not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite 26" tires

[Ryan Frahm]

No experience in the 26” sizes, but I have run the endurance casing of the 
RH Juniper Ridge and Fleecer Ridge on some serious tire eating terrain and 
have never had another tire be as durable. I destroy a Maxxis tire almost 
every ride it seems (only a slight exaggeration) but the RH endurance have 
been amazing. Just my experience. If only they made a 2.6…
Enjoy the ride!
On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:32:01 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I hope you enjoy the tires! I’ve got three bikes with RH (or Compass) 
> tires, some for years. I have two sets in the shed for another bike, and to 
> swap out knobbies for slicks. I enjoy the ride of those tires, and I 
> haven’t had bad flatting issues. My last set of flats were pinch flats, 
> including a rim dent, so I don’t blame the tires. I blame rainstorms 
> washing the dirt off the trails, exposing many many large sharp rocks. And 
> I will take that over drought any season.
>
> I have periodic gout flare ups that destroy me for walking, but I can 
> still ride without pain. I hope your issues aren’t that!
>
> Philip
> Annadel Park, California  
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 6:16:05 PM UTC-8 Lynn Haas wrote:
>
>> There are no better reasons :) 
>>
>> I went to the LBS and they are ordering in some RH tires. It’s only three 
>> blocks to the shop, but I have some mobility problems and rode instead of 
>> (painfully) walking. It was 10 degree today so that was a bit of an 
>> adventure. It was so very nice to get outside and feel the bike come alive. 
>> And that concludes my ride report. 
>>
>> Lynn 
>>
>> > On Feb 4, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > IME, oh yes indeed. If the principal reason for riding is fun, as it 
>> > is for me, the superb rolling and cushioning qualities of RH EL tires, 
>> > even those only 28 mm wide, are worth even more than $150 a pair. 
>> > Others' priorities may differ. 
>> > 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

[Ben Mihovk]

If you do the newbaums and twine and shellac it, it will be pert near 
bulletproof.

-Ben in Omaha 

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 9:56:49 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
> of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
> not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?

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[RBW] Clem or other chainstay protection

[Richard Rose]

Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots 
of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold 
not hold up well. What other solutions are being used?

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