[RBW] Re: Shifters, Rene Herse Tire, Deore Levers, Ritchey Force Stem, Crust

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Ullmer
Seatpost is sold

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 4:11:18 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Stem shifters gone.
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:56:09 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Cross post from the i-bob list:
>>
>> 1) Suntour Power Ratchet Stem Shifters - *$25 shipped each, or $45 for 
>> the pair*
>> --Very clean and work great. Same ratchet action as Suntour Barcons
>>
>> 2) American Classic Seatpost - *$25 shipped*
>> --27.2 x 240mm, Decals peeling off, other than that fine shape
>>
>> 3) Ritchey Force Quill Stem 1 1/8" 130mm 25.4 -* $25 shipped*
>> --Powdercoated teal green, not sure if its original or not. I had this on 
>> my Trek 990 until I swapped the fork for a Clydesdale fork.
>>
>> 4) Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass 700x35 Extralight Single Tire - SOLD
>> --Mounted on two bikes and has less than 1 mile of wear. Has some 
>> tubeless residue on the inside
>>
>> 5) Deore XT BL M700 Brake Levers - *$30 shipped*
>> --Vintage Deer Head brake levers. Short Pull. Some wear on the 
>> anodization throughout. One of my favorite levers.
>>
>> 6) Ultegra Flight Deck 3x9 Brifters - *$35 shipped*
>> --Hoods are in rough shape and no decal saying "flight deck" on top. 
>> Mechanically work just fine
>>
>> 7) Crust Loose Bar 31.8 Silver - *$90 shipped*
>> --Mounted but not ridden. My plans changed for this bar. Currently sold 
>> out in this configuration.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ALDhaz4jfLCB3vgb7
>>
>> PM off-list
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do Roadinis ride tall?

2022-09-12 Thread Piaw Na

>
>
> I don't think a rider can meaningfully feel a 5mm difference in BB drop.  
> I think what you are feeling is likely Stack related.  A 54cm Roadini is a 
> bigger bike than a 56cm RB1.  Is your stem slammed?  Slam that stem! :)
> If you want to split the difference, ride your Roadini for now, and get a 
> deposit in on a Nobilette Roadeo.  Sell the Roadini when it arrives, and 
> off you go.  I'm not sure if you'd prefer a 57 Roadeo, or maybe a 55?  
>
>>
>>>
I went and measured the stack and reach on both bikes. Turns out my touring 
bike actually has a higher stack (71.8cm measured from BB to handlebar 
hood) and reach (45cm measured from BB to handlebar stem center), while the 
Roadini had 68.58cm and 41.91cm on both of those measurements. What is 
significant is that the BB height on the touring bike is 10.5" while the BB 
height on the Roadini is 11", which is a 1.3cm difference. I guess I can 
definitely feel a 13mm difference in center of gravity shift, 5mm of which 
is accounted for by the BB drop difference, and then other 8mm is accounted 
for by the bigger tires (which is strange since the difference between 
tires is basically going from 25mm to 30mm tires, but 3mm difference might 
be within the margin of error)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville hub bags/rack, Nitto bars, Rene Herse

2022-09-12 Thread Collin A
PM'd ya!

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 10:14:46 AM UTC-6 Reid Echols wrote:

> Hi Collin, 
>
> I've got a like new Sackville Baggabond, if you're interested? 
>
> Either way, I might interested in those tires and the HAR. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Reid in Austin 
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 1:10:32 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Hey Folks,
>>
>> My wife is going through some adjustments on her homer, and now we've got 
>> some spare parts! We are open for a trade for a backabike bag in olive or 
>> forest green if you've got one lying around...
>>
>> Photos:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fq8pdK8MorGTXYNN7
>>
>> Nitto Hub Area Rack with Sackville Bags - These are wonderful and are 
>> made for each other, practically new condition except for some garage dust. 
>> Super solid connection with some irish straps and classy looking. Also, 
>> pretty dang light, lighter than my bikepacking bags with a tubus rack! 
>> Asking for $350 + shipping in a 14"x12"x6" box
>>
>> Nitto Albatross Bars - 56 cm (1 cm longer than the normal ones), again in 
>> great condition. My wife clearly takes care of her bike much better than I 
>> do! Heat treated Alu variety. Asking $100+shipping in a 22"x8"x8" box
>>
>> Rene Herse Juniper Ridge Endurance - 650x48 knobby endurance casings. 
>> These have about 300 miles on them, but ride great on the local trails 
>> around Salt Lake City and Bay Area. No flats, slices, cuts, etc. Asking 
>> $120 +shipping in a USPS regional flat rate box A.
>>
>> All shipping will be from 95816 and the cheapest option out there, likely 
>> USPS or bikeflights.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin in Sactown
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shifters, Rene Herse Tire, Deore Levers, Ritchey Force Stem, Crust

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Ullmer
Stem shifters gone.

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:56:09 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Cross post from the i-bob list:
>
> 1) Suntour Power Ratchet Stem Shifters - *$25 shipped each, or $45 for 
> the pair*
> --Very clean and work great. Same ratchet action as Suntour Barcons
>
> 2) American Classic Seatpost - *$25 shipped*
> --27.2 x 240mm, Decals peeling off, other than that fine shape
>
> 3) Ritchey Force Quill Stem 1 1/8" 130mm 25.4 -* $25 shipped*
> --Powdercoated teal green, not sure if its original or not. I had this on 
> my Trek 990 until I swapped the fork for a Clydesdale fork.
>
> 4) Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass 700x35 Extralight Single Tire - SOLD
> --Mounted on two bikes and has less than 1 mile of wear. Has some tubeless 
> residue on the inside
>
> 5) Deore XT BL M700 Brake Levers - *$30 shipped*
> --Vintage Deer Head brake levers. Short Pull. Some wear on the anodization 
> throughout. One of my favorite levers.
>
> 6) Ultegra Flight Deck 3x9 Brifters - *$35 shipped*
> --Hoods are in rough shape and no decal saying "flight deck" on top. 
> Mechanically work just fine
>
> 7) Crust Loose Bar 31.8 Silver - *$90 shipped*
> --Mounted but not ridden. My plans changed for this bar. Currently sold 
> out in this configuration.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ALDhaz4jfLCB3vgb7
>
> PM off-list
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
>

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[RBW] Re: DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

2022-09-12 Thread a spen


Hi Michael,

I can address the part of your query 

--I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
bolt crankset--

 Based on my experience with the SRAM NX Eagle 1 x 12.  During the pandemic 
I was doing a build up and found myself short on matching drivetrain parts, 
unable to acquire what I needed, and tired of matching/mismatching bits & 
parts for 2 or 3 x 8, 9, 10 cassettes and so broke with tradition and 
installed a NX drivetrain on a Gus.  It required a DUB BB tool, an 
additional 12 or 13 links to accommodate the lng chain stays and a 
couple of 2.5 mm shims to accommodate the BB. The operation was smooth and 
flawless and I was impressed by the ease and simplicity of installing the 
entire unit.

I realize your question is directed towards the SX, but my experience with 
the NX has been quite unexpectedly  positive.

Hope this adds to the conversation,

Al



On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 2:39:21 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> SRAM mtb cranksets start at 169mm for q factor, the Eagle SX is 173mm. See 
> their fitment catalog here . 
> https://www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/frame-fit-specifications/mtb/2021-mtb-frame-fit-specifications.pdf
>
> All their road cranksets are 145mm. Quite a jump !
>
> There's lots of 1x specific cranks, tons. BMX stores are a great place for 
> alternatives to the same ol' same ol' big brands. 
>
> All I can say is just educate yourself beforehand as to what type of ring 
> attachment a given crank uses. SRAM 's are all direct mount, while BOX for 
> example uses a regular 104mm or 110 BCD ring. Also, chainlines can vary 
> wildly among these, so you better have a good idea of what you're pairing 
> it all with. 
>
> I don't see any type of crank/BB as any more/less "easy-er" than any other 
> as such terms are relative. 
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:58:44 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have an Ultegra SL triple crankset converted to 1x via a Wolftooth 
>> chainring on my Roadini and a Shimano GRX 810-1 on my custom touring bike 
>> (which is based on a Bridgestone RB-1). There's no appreciable difference 
>> in Q factor that I can tell when riding. The biggest problem with the GRX 
>> is that the smallest chainring you can get for 4-bolt 110 BCD is 36t, while 
>> if you went with a traditional 110 5-bolt BCD you can get a 34t chainring. 
>> If you don't frequently ride in groups that are trying to drop people and 
>> hence you have to keep your cadence in a narrow power band, 1x definitely 
>> is the way to go. I never realized how frequently I dropped the triple 
>> until I switched to the 1x and found myself switching gears that were just 
>> on the border between what would have been the middle and the granny all 
>> the time --- something I avoided doing on the triple because I was fearful 
>> of dropping the chain.
>>
>> I did a short writeup here: 
>> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/06/a-transition-to-1x-drivetrains.html
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:55:06 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years 
>>> since I ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the 
>>> new cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?
>>>
>>> On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
>>> WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
>>> derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
>>> great.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
>>> direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
>>> cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
>>> bolt crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.
>>>
>>> The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under 
>>> $75 total), and I'm curious.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Black Waxed Canvas Acorn Bags

2022-09-12 Thread Matthew Williams
Medium Saddlebag has been sold!

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[RBW] WTB: Marks Rack

2022-09-12 Thread James
Anyone have one of these they are willing to sell?  Just barely missed it 
in the most recent FS post.

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Re: [RBW] FS, Boscomoose 580 & Tosco 650 handlebars

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Rose
Boscomoose is sold.
Tosco is sold pending payment.
Thanks all!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 8:01 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
> 
> Boscomoose 580 width, $150.00 and we split the estimated $35.00 shipping 
> cost via Bikeflights from Toledo, Ohio.
> Tosco 650 wide, 31.8 clamp, $60.00 and we split the estimated $20.00 shipping 
> cost via Bikeflights from Toledo, Ohio.
> In both cases happy to adjust shipping cost per actual charges.
> FYI I have settled on the Bosco 550 for my Clem.
> I will add pics in comments, but both bars are 9.9 of 10.
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Brown Small TrunkSack, Nitto M-18 front rack, Brooks Brown B17, Brooks Challenge Toolbag, Tektro R559 brakes

2022-09-12 Thread James
Pm about the front rack, trunk sack, and pedals

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 2:31:56 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Will:
>
> I’d like to buy the bar tape only.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:26 AM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Here we have a nice collection of parts that I am no longer using. All are 
> used but very lightly so.
>
> • Sackville TrunkSack Small in brown - $85
> • Nitto M-18 front rack - $85
> • Brooks B17 Special in Antique Brown, just broken-in and treated with 
> Obenauf's - $100
> • Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
> • Nitto Tallux 12cm quill stem - $40
> • MKS/Rivendell Lambda Pedals - $30
> • Tektro Fl750 brake levers - $10 with another purchase
> • Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase
>
> $300 for the whole lot
>
> all prices are shipped to the lower 48 states and I accept Paypal only
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

2022-09-12 Thread Garth
SRAM mtb cranksets start at 169mm for q factor, the Eagle SX is 173mm. See 
their fitment catalog here . 
https://www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/frame-fit-specifications/mtb/2021-mtb-frame-fit-specifications.pdf

All their road cranksets are 145mm. Quite a jump !

There's lots of 1x specific cranks, tons. BMX stores are a great place for 
alternatives to the same ol' same ol' big brands. 

All I can say is just educate yourself beforehand as to what type of ring 
attachment a given crank uses. SRAM 's are all direct mount, while BOX for 
example uses a regular 104mm or 110 BCD ring. Also, chainlines can vary 
wildly among these, so you better have a good idea of what you're pairing 
it all with. 

I don't see any type of crank/BB as any more/less "easy-er" than any other 
as such terms are relative. 

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:58:44 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have an Ultegra SL triple crankset converted to 1x via a Wolftooth 
> chainring on my Roadini and a Shimano GRX 810-1 on my custom touring bike 
> (which is based on a Bridgestone RB-1). There's no appreciable difference 
> in Q factor that I can tell when riding. The biggest problem with the GRX 
> is that the smallest chainring you can get for 4-bolt 110 BCD is 36t, while 
> if you went with a traditional 110 5-bolt BCD you can get a 34t chainring. 
> If you don't frequently ride in groups that are trying to drop people and 
> hence you have to keep your cadence in a narrow power band, 1x definitely 
> is the way to go. I never realized how frequently I dropped the triple 
> until I switched to the 1x and found myself switching gears that were just 
> on the border between what would have been the middle and the granny all 
> the time --- something I avoided doing on the triple because I was fearful 
> of dropping the chain.
>
> I did a short writeup here: 
> https://blog.piaw.net/2022/06/a-transition-to-1x-drivetrains.html
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:55:06 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years since 
>> I ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the new 
>> cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?
>>
>> On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
>> WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
>> derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
>> great.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
>> direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
>> cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
>> bolt crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.
>>
>> The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under 
>> $75 total), and I'm curious.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Brown Small TrunkSack, Nitto M-18 front rack, Brooks Brown B17, Brooks Challenge Toolbag, Tektro R559 brakes

2022-09-12 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Will:

I’d like to buy the bar tape only.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:26 AM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here we have a nice collection of parts that I am no longer using. All are 
> used but very lightly so.
> 
> • Sackville TrunkSack Small in brown - $85
> • Nitto M-18 front rack - $85
> • Brooks B17 Special in Antique Brown, just broken-in and treated with 
> Obenauf's - $100
> • Brooks Challenge Saddle Bag in Antique Brown - $40
> • Nitto Tallux 12cm quill stem - $40
> • MKS/Rivendell Lambda Pedals - $30
> • Tektro Fl750 brake levers - $10 with another purchase
> • Brooks Microfiber bar tape in Honey (unused) - $10 with another purchase
> 
> $300 for the whole lot
> 
> all prices are shipped to the lower 48 states and I accept Paypal only
> 
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: No love for the Riv Bull bar?

2022-09-12 Thread Johnny Alien
Because there is no rise I don't really see why they would need to be 
angled at all but every rider is different. Whatever is comfortable to you.


On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Who has experimented with Riv's Bull bar? It's in stock and perhaps 
> underappreciated?
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/handlebar-nitto-b901raa
>
> I've seen Brendonoid's photo here 
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/kpok5hmtyK4/m/QzOVD6XPAAAJ
>
> His seem much less angled down than mine, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it 
> wrong ;)
>
> [image: IMG_8155.jpeg]
>
> As seen on the pic, I recently installed it on my Atlantis with a Jim stem 
> and I'm still playing with potential angle decisions for a comfortable fit 
> - any insights would be appreciated
>
> Max
>

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[RBW] Shifters, Rene Herse Tire, Deore Levers, Ritchey Force Stem, Crust

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Ullmer
Cross post from the i-bob list:

1) Suntour Power Ratchet Stem Shifters - *$25 shipped each, or $45 for the 
pair*
--Very clean and work great. Same ratchet action as Suntour Barcons

2) American Classic Seatpost - *$25 shipped*
--27.2 x 240mm, Decals peeling off, other than that fine shape

3) Ritchey Force Quill Stem 1 1/8" 130mm 25.4 -* $25 shipped*
--Powdercoated teal green, not sure if its original or not. I had this on 
my Trek 990 until I swapped the fork for a Clydesdale fork.

4) Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass 700x35 Extralight Single Tire - SOLD
--Mounted on two bikes and has less than 1 mile of wear. Has some tubeless 
residue on the inside

5) Deore XT BL M700 Brake Levers - *$30 shipped*
--Vintage Deer Head brake levers. Short Pull. Some wear on the anodization 
throughout. One of my favorite levers.

6) Ultegra Flight Deck 3x9 Brifters - *$35 shipped*
--Hoods are in rough shape and no decal saying "flight deck" on top. 
Mechanically work just fine

7) Crust Loose Bar 31.8 Silver - *$90 shipped*
--Mounted but not ridden. My plans changed for this bar. Currently sold out 
in this configuration.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ALDhaz4jfLCB3vgb7

PM off-list

Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Baggage For Sale

2022-09-12 Thread Karl
Thanks everyone. 

#1- Duluth Candy Bar Bag- Some spotting. Good shape- $50 shipped
#5- Sackville Musette Bag- $40 Shipped
#6- Sackville Big Bag (Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped

This is what is remaining. One last post to see if they can go to someone. 
Let's say $150 shipped for all three and something fun in the box for 
bonus. 

Karl in Nashville


On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 10:57:24 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Joe is right about bag #9.  I run exactly that bag on some of my drop bar 
> bikes.  It's definitely a RACKLESS bag.  If nobody else wants it, I'd take 
> it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Oh, it's one of those square handlebar bags Riv used to sell. On drop 
>> bars you would wrap the rear hook-and-loop straps either side of the stem, 
>> then rig up something with those front straps to loop around the brake 
>> lever hoods. Resting the bottom on a front rack is good, too! 👍
>>
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-7 Karl wrote:
>>
>>> If Joe cannot figure it out... I am in trouble! Try these. I would think 
>>> it would work well on a front platform...
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5077 Medium.jpeg][image: IMG_5078 Medium.jpeg][image: 
>>> IMG_5079 Medium.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Sep 9, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I appreciate your struggle to figure out what's going on with the rack 
>>> bag, I canNOT deduce the size or how it mounts from those pics. Hey Karl, 
>>> can you show it to us sitting on a rack? 
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:55:37 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>>
 Would you know if #9 is sized to fit on top of something like a Marks 
 Rack? Looks like it could be an early trunk sack? Thx! Scott

 On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:45:54 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:

> There are some places I circled where it attaches to the rack. I’ve 
> never used it, and cannot remember when I bought it off the list! Hope 
> that 
> helps
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2022, at 1:39 PM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> Curious how bag #9 mounts to a rack? thx! Scott
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:20:48 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:
>
>> Needing to dramatically downsize my "stuff" so, first post is my 
>> Rivendell Bags I have had collecting dust and Golden Retriever hair! If 
>> interested, please note the number on the photo for the bag when 
>> replying. 
>> Let me know if I am crazy high on pricing. More fun stuff to come 
>> (Quickbeam wheels, Paul brakes, etc!) Thanks All!
>>
>> Photos Here 
>>
>> #1- Duluth Candy Bar Bag- Some spotting. Good shape- $50 shipped
>>
>> #2- Baggins Candy Bar Bag- Some beausage- $40 Shipped
>>
>> #3- Baggins Banana-ish Bag- Shorter “tail” than other banana I have. 
>> Also, this has a zipper- $50 shipped
>>
>> #4- Baggins Little Joe (Pretty sure) Hole in bottom, but still has 
>> some miles- $50 shipped
>>
>> #5- Sackville Musette Bag- $40 Shipped
>>
>> #6- Sackville Big Bag (Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>>
>> #7- Sackville Big Bag (Also.. Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>>
>> #8- Baggins Adam (?)- Good shape- $100 Shipped
>>
>> #9- Rivendell Vegan Rack Bag- $30 Shipped
>>
>> Karl in Nashville, TN
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville hub bags/rack, Nitto bars, Rene Herse

2022-09-12 Thread Reid Echols
Hi Collin, 

I've got a like new Sackville Baggabond, if you're interested? 

Either way, I might interested in those tires and the HAR. 

Thanks, 
Reid in Austin 

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 1:10:32 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> Hey Folks,
>
> My wife is going through some adjustments on her homer, and now we've got 
> some spare parts! We are open for a trade for a backabike bag in olive or 
> forest green if you've got one lying around...
>
> Photos:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fq8pdK8MorGTXYNN7
>
> Nitto Hub Area Rack with Sackville Bags - These are wonderful and are made 
> for each other, practically new condition except for some garage dust. 
> Super solid connection with some irish straps and classy looking. Also, 
> pretty dang light, lighter than my bikepacking bags with a tubus rack! 
> Asking for $350 + shipping in a 14"x12"x6" box
>
> Nitto Albatross Bars - 56 cm (1 cm longer than the normal ones), again in 
> great condition. My wife clearly takes care of her bike much better than I 
> do! Heat treated Alu variety. Asking $100+shipping in a 22"x8"x8" box
>
> Rene Herse Juniper Ridge Endurance - 650x48 knobby endurance casings. 
> These have about 300 miles on them, but ride great on the local trails 
> around Salt Lake City and Bay Area. No flats, slices, cuts, etc. Asking 
> $120 +shipping in a USPS regional flat rate box A.
>
> All shipping will be from 95816 and the cheapest option out there, likely 
> USPS or bikeflights.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sactown
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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

2022-09-12 Thread Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)
Ah! okay, yeah I had rotated it to use in the upside down position but I 
guess I didn't have it mounted correctly. I'll rotate it around and see if 
this helps. Thanks guys!

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
> bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
> Peter Whites site:
>
> [image: B&MIQXUD1.jpg]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I noticed my B&M IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>
>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

2022-09-12 Thread lconley
It looks to be mounted upside down. The wire is supposed to come out the 
bottom of the light. The light can be rotated within the housing. From 
Peter Whites site:

[image: B&MIQXUD1.jpg]

Laing

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
(Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> I noticed my B&M IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>
> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

2022-09-12 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Justin:

Your light is mounted upside down, which may be causing the moisture problem. 
The two LEDs go at the top. Loosen the bolt holding the light on and rotate it 
180 degrees. That might help get the moisture out, if the light body is 
designed to drain from the bottom.

You should see much better performance from the light as well. The IQ-X 
projects an asymmetrical beam that’s flat on top and shines down toward the 
ground. In this way, it’s like modern car headlights. It also helps keep from 
blinding oncoming traffic. 

Your light, being upside down, is working exactly the opposite, shining up 
toward the sky while directing very little light downward toward the road.

Note: The more expensive Edeluxe light comes in two distinct versions for 
sitting above or below the mounting point. The IQ-X has the advantage of being 
able to be rotated to work in either situation. 

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> On Sep 12, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
>  wrote:
> 
> I noticed my B&M IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered there's 
> moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). Anyone have 
> experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to take the 
> light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm wondering if 
> that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the wheel rotates 
> so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully illuminate beyond the 
> flicker. 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Baggage For Sale

2022-09-12 Thread Bill Lindsay
Joe is right about bag #9.  I run exactly that bag on some of my drop bar 
bikes.  It's definitely a RACKLESS bag.  If nobody else wants it, I'd take 
it.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh, it's one of those square handlebar bags Riv used to sell. On drop bars 
> you would wrap the rear hook-and-loop straps either side of the stem, then 
> rig up something with those front straps to loop around the brake lever 
> hoods. Resting the bottom on a front rack is good, too! 👍
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 1:18:05 PM UTC-7 Karl wrote:
>
>> If Joe cannot figure it out... I am in trouble! Try these. I would think 
>> it would work well on a front platform...
>>
>> [image: IMG_5077 Medium.jpeg][image: IMG_5078 Medium.jpeg][image: 
>> IMG_5079 Medium.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> I appreciate your struggle to figure out what's going on with the rack 
>> bag, I canNOT deduce the size or how it mounts from those pics. Hey Karl, 
>> can you show it to us sitting on a rack? 
>>
>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 11:55:37 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> Would you know if #9 is sized to fit on top of something like a Marks 
>>> Rack? Looks like it could be an early trunk sack? Thx! Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:45:54 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:
>>>
 There are some places I circled where it attaches to the rack. I’ve 
 never used it, and cannot remember when I bought it off the list! Hope 
 that 
 helps

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 9, 2022, at 1:39 PM, greenteadrinkers  
 wrote:

 Curious how bag #9 mounts to a rack? thx! Scott



 On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:20:48 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:

> Needing to dramatically downsize my "stuff" so, first post is my 
> Rivendell Bags I have had collecting dust and Golden Retriever hair! If 
> interested, please note the number on the photo for the bag when 
> replying. 
> Let me know if I am crazy high on pricing. More fun stuff to come 
> (Quickbeam wheels, Paul brakes, etc!) Thanks All!
>
> Photos Here 
>
> #1- Duluth Candy Bar Bag- Some spotting. Good shape- $50 shipped
>
> #2- Baggins Candy Bar Bag- Some beausage- $40 Shipped
>
> #3- Baggins Banana-ish Bag- Shorter “tail” than other banana I have. 
> Also, this has a zipper- $50 shipped
>
> #4- Baggins Little Joe (Pretty sure) Hole in bottom, but still has 
> some miles- $50 shipped
>
> #5- Sackville Musette Bag- $40 Shipped
>
> #6- Sackville Big Bag (Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>
> #7- Sackville Big Bag (Also.. Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>
> #8- Baggins Adam (?)- Good shape- $100 Shipped
>
> #9- Rivendell Vegan Rack Bag- $30 Shipped
>
> Karl in Nashville, TN
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Baggage For Sale

2022-09-12 Thread Karl Worley
Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 10, 2022, at 8:48 AM, James M  wrote:Hi, Karl. Count me in for the #8 Baggins bag JamesOn Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:20:48 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:Needing to dramatically downsize my "stuff" so, first post is my Rivendell Bags I have had collecting dust and Golden Retriever hair! If interested, please note the number on the photo for the bag when replying. Let me know if I am crazy high on pricing. More fun stuff to come (Quickbeam wheels, Paul brakes, etc!) Thanks All!Photos Here
#1- Duluth Candy Bar Bag- Some spotting. Good shape- $50 shipped
#2- Baggins Candy Bar Bag- Some beausage- $40 Shipped
#3- Baggins Banana-ish Bag- Shorter “tail” than other banana I have. Also, this has a zipper- $50 shipped
#4- Baggins Little Joe (Pretty sure) Hole in bottom, but still has some miles- $50 shipped
#5- Sackville Musette Bag- $40 Shipped
#6- Sackville Big Bag (Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
#7- Sackville Big Bag (Also.. Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
#8- Baggins Adam (?)- Good shape- $100 Shipped
#9- Rivendell Vegan Rack Bag- $30 ShippedKarl in Nashville, TN



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

2022-09-12 Thread Doug H.
It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the 
lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build 
photos too!
Doug

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set 
> out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see 
>> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or 
>> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be 
>>> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed 
>>> even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived 
>>> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get 
>>> my bike. 
>>>
>>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
>>> winter is coming. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
>>> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
>>> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
>>> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 From this week's email:

 Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out 
 the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the 
 queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up 
 or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and 
 a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.

 So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
 frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.

 Eric

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>
> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option 
> of adding a dropper post :)
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) 
>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
>>> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a 
>>> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well 
>>> in 
>>> place but otherwise?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
>>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
>>> steel 
>>> and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat 
>>> post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally 
>>> unique 
>>> brake setup: 
>>>
>>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>>> -W
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I 
 have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving 
 aside 
 for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting 
 for 
 the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
 Platy 
 has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame 
 instead. 

 Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
 tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
 weakening 
 the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat 
 stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug 
 so 
 they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

 My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor 
 a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience 
 to 
 adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not 
 a 
 frequent or big deal to me.

 The collar: 

[RBW] Re: Nitto Rack Attachment

2022-09-12 Thread scott minor
I have an older Nitto Campee with those same tabs..  I had the same 
interference so I cut them off neatly several years ago and do still have 
them in case they ever need to be tacked back on..   but I doubt I'll ever 
need to do that.  I have sackville panniers (don't need the tabs) and some 
80's LL Bean panniers (also don't need the tabs).  Also, there is a closed 
loop near the bottom of the rack that would serve the same purpose for 
hooking a strap, should the need ever arise..   


On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:59:37 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I suspect it's just a hook to attach a strap/bungee to. You can certainly 
> lop it off!
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:52 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:
>
>> I have a couple older Nitto rear racks with this stud attachment on the 
>> lower end. The newer ones don't seem to have it. 
>> It causes a problem with interference on the fender stay. You have to 
>> spread the rack out and put some shims in to make it work. 
>> I'm thinking about sawing/filing it off and touching it up with some 
>> paint. Ha[image: Nitto 2.JPG][image: Nitto Rack.JPG]s anyone done this 
>> mod?
>> Are these for an older type of pannier attachment? My Ortleib's don't 
>> need it.
>> Richard
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Rack Attachment

2022-09-12 Thread Pat Smith
I suspect it's just a hook to attach a strap/bungee to. You can certainly 
lop it off!

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:52 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:

> I have a couple older Nitto rear racks with this stud attachment on the 
> lower end. The newer ones don't seem to have it. 
> It causes a problem with interference on the fender stay. You have to 
> spread the rack out and put some shims in to make it work. 
> I'm thinking about sawing/filing it off and touching it up with some 
> paint. Ha[image: Nitto 2.JPG][image: Nitto Rack.JPG]s anyone done this 
> mod?
> Are these for an older type of pannier attachment? My Ortleib's don't need 
> it.
> Richard
>

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[RBW] Re: DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

2022-09-12 Thread Piaw Na
I have an Ultegra SL triple crankset converted to 1x via a Wolftooth 
chainring on my Roadini and a Shimano GRX 810-1 on my custom touring bike 
(which is based on a Bridgestone RB-1). There's no appreciable difference 
in Q factor that I can tell when riding. The biggest problem with the GRX 
is that the smallest chainring you can get for 4-bolt 110 BCD is 36t, while 
if you went with a traditional 110 5-bolt BCD you can get a 34t chainring. 
If you don't frequently ride in groups that are trying to drop people and 
hence you have to keep your cadence in a narrow power band, 1x definitely 
is the way to go. I never realized how frequently I dropped the triple 
until I switched to the 1x and found myself switching gears that were just 
on the border between what would have been the middle and the granny all 
the time --- something I avoided doing on the triple because I was fearful 
of dropping the chain.

I did a short writeup 
here: https://blog.piaw.net/2022/06/a-transition-to-1x-drivetrains.html

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:55:06 AM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years since 
> I ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the new 
> cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?
>
> On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
> WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
> derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
> great.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
> direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
> cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
> bolt crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.
>
> The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under 
> $75 total), and I'm curious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>

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[RBW] FS, Boscomoose 580 & Tosco 650 handlebars

2022-09-12 Thread Richard Rose
Boscomoose 580 width, $150.00 and we split the estimated $35.00 shipping 
cost via Bikeflights from Toledo, Ohio.
Tosco 650 wide, 31.8 clamp, $60.00 and we split the estimated $20.00 
shipping cost via Bikeflights from Toledo, Ohio.
In both cases happy to adjust shipping cost per actual charges.
FYI I have settled on the Bosco 550 for my Clem.
I will add pics in comments, but both bars are 9.9 of 10.
Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

2022-09-12 Thread Eric Marth
Would love to see someone's SRAM Hillborne... if they have one. 

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 6:55:06 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years since 
> I ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the new 
> cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?
>
> On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
> WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
> derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
> great.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
> direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
> cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
> bolt crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.
>
> The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under 
> $75 total), and I'm curious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
>

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[RBW] DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Morrissey
Hi,

I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years since I 
ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the new 
cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?

On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
great.

I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other direct-mount 
crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB cranks and 
they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 bolt 
crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.

The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under $75 
total), and I'm curious.

Thanks,

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

2022-09-12 Thread Ryan M.
"No,  I have to admit I never made a convert. I got admiring comments 
(beautiful bike! How old is that?) and sometimes an old guy would start 
telling me about his bikes back in the day. But never a request to ride or 
request for info. I think the Ram also just wasn’t quite odd enough. "


I never got any body to convert either...I tried too but nobody ever showed 
up with a handlebar bag or panniers to a club ride (except me). There were 
a few cyclists who would show up on steel racing frames, some even with 
downtube shifters, and tear up a club ride. That was cool to see. 

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 5:35:43 PM UTC-5 felt...@gmail.com wrote:

> No,  I have to admit I never made a convert. I got admiring comments 
> (beautiful bike! How old is that?) and sometimes an old guy would start 
> telling me about his bikes back in the day. But never a request to ride or 
> request for info. I think the Ram also just wasn’t quite odd enough. 
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 11:37:19 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I’m *loving* these bike stories you guys are giving. Now that I’ve got 
>> club riding experience, I can better relate to your stories. 
>>
>> Interesting observation about the comfort of the Trek - I wonder why it 
>> became uncomfortable when slowing? I can relate about the hills, too. We 
>> Riv riders are working harder on our hills than the rest. I stand up and 
>> PUSH on my pedals on our ascents. I feel like I need more weight to get 
>> them to turn faster, and I can feel the bikes behind me gaining. But once 
>> we crest the top I’m back up to pace again. I know I work harder on my 
>> bike, but I also think that makes me stronger. I am at my high school 
>> weight, or maybe less, and I have new muscles and even new circulation. I 
>> have augmented my riding with weight lifting and core about 6 days a week, 
>> and I think that helps my rides, too.
>>
>> I can also relate to the bag comments - Marc (Sam rider with a 
>> Saddlesack) and I rode a club ride one day. One guy said to us, “You guys 
>> are ready for anything. Even a job interview…with your little briefcases.” 
>>
>> Club rides are good, clean fun and a good way to challenge yourself. They 
>> don’t replace the best kind of riding - using your bike to go places and do 
>> things - but they are a good time.
>>
>> Ryan and Feltovich - did either of you make any converts? Anyone want to 
>> try your Rivendell and then love the comfort?
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Ryan M.  wrote:
>>
>> Club riding can be a lot of fun and quite rewarding. I always liked 
>> riding with a group like that when I had the time...the fitness of it was 
>> great. 
>>
>>
>> I started out club riding on my Sam Hillborne with a Sackville handlebar 
>> bag hooked up to a set of Nitto Noodles. My friend would make fun of me 
>> asking why I needed a trout creel on the bike; I just answered that it was 
>> the perfect size for a 6 pack of beer and a sandwich in case we needed a 
>> rest stop. It was a great bike for riding with the slower or medium speed 
>> group. Eventually I bought a carbon Trek and really started riding with the 
>> faster group. Did it for a few years and I do think the bike setup helped 
>> with the speed and I don't think I could have kept up with the group on my 
>> Sam. I did buy a Roadeo and road that...and it was a great bike for club 
>> riding. That carbon bike could climb a hill faster and more efficiently 
>> than the Hillborne could, I can't deny that. The Roadeo was faster than the 
>> Sam too and really about the same as the carbon bike for efficiency.  The 
>> thing about that carbon Trek bike was that it was really comfortable for 
>> long rides provided I was kinda hammering the pedals most of the time. As 
>> soon as the pace came down to casual, the bike would become uncomfortable. 
>> The Rivs were comfortable all the time.
>>
>> It's always a sobering moment when the group gets blown away by the 
>> single speed riding, flip flop sporting, floppy t-shirt and jean short 
>> wearing bike shop employee who just looks like he is out for a Sunday 
>> stroll. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:26:17 AM UTC-5 felt...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When we lived in minneapolis I rode with a small neighborhood group that 
>>> did a weekly Sunday ride at a respectable pace. I was riding a Rambouillet 
>>> back then: fenders, canvas saddle bag, shellacked bar tape, 33.333mm tires, 
>>> etc. The other riders were on aluminum or CF bikes, of course. One day, we 
>>> were doing our version of a paceline on a winding road near the U of M 
>>> campus when we got passed by some shirtless college kid in jean shorts on a 
>>> mountain bike. The group instinctively sped up to chase, but it was quickly 
>>> obvious that we weren't going to catch him. Wry smiles and "holy crap, that 
>>> kid was flying!" But the obvious point was that his speed wasn't really 
>>> hindered that much by hi

Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

2022-09-12 Thread Ryan M.
Yeah, that's pretty close to the feeling I had on that Trek...It was a good 
bike for one type of riding, but trying to use it for casual cruising or 
picking up groceries was futile. Lol. 

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:32:10 PM UTC-5 Slin wrote:

> > Interesting observation about the comfort of the Trek - I wonder why it 
> became uncomfortable when slowing?
>
> I've noticed that pedaling hard removes pressure from the hands and 
> saddle. So on some bike setups with low handlebars, if I'm coasting, I can 
> feel like I'm sliding forward on my saddle or need to support more of my 
> weight with my arms. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:37:19 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I’m *loving* these bike stories you guys are giving. Now that I’ve got 
>> club riding experience, I can better relate to your stories. 
>>
>> Interesting observation about the comfort of the Trek - I wonder why it 
>> became uncomfortable when slowing? I can relate about the hills, too. We 
>> Riv riders are working harder on our hills than the rest. I stand up and 
>> PUSH on my pedals on our ascents. I feel like I need more weight to get 
>> them to turn faster, and I can feel the bikes behind me gaining. But once 
>> we crest the top I’m back up to pace again. I know I work harder on my 
>> bike, but I also think that makes me stronger. I am at my high school 
>> weight, or maybe less, and I have new muscles and even new circulation. I 
>> have augmented my riding with weight lifting and core about 6 days a week, 
>> and I think that helps my rides, too.
>>
>> I can also relate to the bag comments - Marc (Sam rider with a 
>> Saddlesack) and I rode a club ride one day. One guy said to us, “You guys 
>> are ready for anything. Even a job interview…with your little briefcases.” 
>>
>> Club rides are good, clean fun and a good way to challenge yourself. They 
>> don’t replace the best kind of riding - using your bike to go places and do 
>> things - but they are a good time.
>>
>> Ryan and Feltovich - did either of you make any converts? Anyone want to 
>> try your Rivendell and then love the comfort?
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Ryan M.  wrote:
>>
>> Club riding can be a lot of fun and quite rewarding. I always liked 
>> riding with a group like that when I had the time...the fitness of it was 
>> great. 
>>
>>
>> I started out club riding on my Sam Hillborne with a Sackville handlebar 
>> bag hooked up to a set of Nitto Noodles. My friend would make fun of me 
>> asking why I needed a trout creel on the bike; I just answered that it was 
>> the perfect size for a 6 pack of beer and a sandwich in case we needed a 
>> rest stop. It was a great bike for riding with the slower or medium speed 
>> group. Eventually I bought a carbon Trek and really started riding with the 
>> faster group. Did it for a few years and I do think the bike setup helped 
>> with the speed and I don't think I could have kept up with the group on my 
>> Sam. I did buy a Roadeo and road that...and it was a great bike for club 
>> riding. That carbon bike could climb a hill faster and more efficiently 
>> than the Hillborne could, I can't deny that. The Roadeo was faster than the 
>> Sam too and really about the same as the carbon bike for efficiency.  The 
>> thing about that carbon Trek bike was that it was really comfortable for 
>> long rides provided I was kinda hammering the pedals most of the time. As 
>> soon as the pace came down to casual, the bike would become uncomfortable. 
>> The Rivs were comfortable all the time.
>>
>> It's always a sobering moment when the group gets blown away by the 
>> single speed riding, flip flop sporting, floppy t-shirt and jean short 
>> wearing bike shop employee who just looks like he is out for a Sunday 
>> stroll. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 10:26:17 AM UTC-5 felt...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When we lived in minneapolis I rode with a small neighborhood group that 
>>> did a weekly Sunday ride at a respectable pace. I was riding a Rambouillet 
>>> back then: fenders, canvas saddle bag, shellacked bar tape, 33.333mm tires, 
>>> etc. The other riders were on aluminum or CF bikes, of course. One day, we 
>>> were doing our version of a paceline on a winding road near the U of M 
>>> campus when we got passed by some shirtless college kid in jean shorts on a 
>>> mountain bike. The group instinctively sped up to chase, but it was quickly 
>>> obvious that we weren't going to catch him. Wry smiles and "holy crap, that 
>>> kid was flying!" But the obvious point was that his speed wasn't really 
>>> hindered that much by his upright/heavy bike and that the racy bikes and 
>>> fancy clothes in our group were not making a significant difference to our 
>>> middle-aged dadbod speeds. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 8:05:49 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Doug - congrats on your increasing fitness on your new bike! Bikes and