Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Ryan Stanis]

Confirmed in the email sent out today, no geo changes from last batch. My
2018 Sam is 26.8, so as previously stated, not a new development for the
frame. Wish I didn't already have one, the lime olive is quite possibly my
favorite riv color I've seen, second maybe to the green Hunqapillars.

-R

On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 10:22 PM J S  wrote:

> My bright orange from the batch before the Dark Gold is 27.2.
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> "I do not recall a 26.8mm seatpost in the past for the Sam H."
>>
>> My Dark Gold Sam from the last batch 2 (3?) years ago has a 26.8 seatpost
>> diameter, so this isn't new.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:04:00 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing
>>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your
>>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until
>>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>>
>>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>>
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[RBW] ISO/WTB: 27.2mm Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 seat post

[Kim Hetzel]

I am in search of and wanting to buy a 27.2mm Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 seat 
post. If you have one in your parts drawer that you are willing sell in 
good condition, let me know. 

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H, Nitto Rear Rack, Trunk Bag

[Kim Hetzel]

You could change out the handlebars to Bosco bars...

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 9:12:32 AM UTC-8 jake...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Dave :) It's a great ride, I've just been wanting something that's a 
> bit more upright. Dropping the asking price to $1450 for anyone interested.
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 12:33:22 PM UTC-5 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
>> I recognize this bike!
>>
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Selling my 52 cm dark green Clem H. In good condition but has some 
>>> beausage (scratch on top tube, small chips around chainstay). I love this 
>>> bike, but I'm hoping to sell it to help finance a Platy. Pickup in NYC 
>>> preferred, but open to shipping. $1525.
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>> 650B x 55mm RH Umtanum Ridge Extralight tires (<150 miles)
>>> Excellent condition black MKS king pedals and B17 carved Brooks saddle
>>> 2x8 with friction shifting
>>> Silver crankset
>>> Can include VO constructeur rack, stock Kenda tires, single schwalbe 
>>> g-one tire
>>> note: the wald basket works great but is bent
>>>
>>> Nitto Campee Rear Rack--$150
>>> Arkel TailRider Trunk Bag--$60
>>> Both for $200
>>>
>>> Google drive link 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>>>
>>> --Jake in NYC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Crankset compatibility

[Ryan Frahm]

Shouldn’t be a problem. What a beautiful crankset!

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:25:15 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have this crazy idea to put a Cane Creek EE wings titanium crankset on a 
> Gus / Susie. I own the crank. It has a 30mm spindle and has a 176 q factor. 
> It indicates it is compatible with a "BSA 73" bottom bracket. That should 
> work, right? Obviously requires a external BB. 
> Thanks for any insights.
>

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[RBW] Crankset compatibility

[Richard Rose]

I have this crazy idea to put a Cane Creek EE wings titanium crankset on a 
Gus / Susie. I own the crank. It has a 30mm spindle and has a 176 q factor. 
It indicates it is compatible with a "BSA 73" bottom bracket. That should 
work, right? Obviously requires a external BB. 
Thanks for any insights.

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[J S]

My bright orange from the batch before the Dark Gold is 27.2. 

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> "I do not recall a 26.8mm seatpost in the past for the Sam H."
>
> My Dark Gold Sam from the last batch 2 (3?) years ago has a 26.8 seatpost 
> diameter, so this isn't new.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:04:00 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>
>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[J S]

I’m with you.  I’d trade my near mint orange for a silver in a heartbeat. 

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:

> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>
> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[velomann]

"I do not recall a 26.8mm seatpost in the past for the Sam H."

My Dark Gold Sam from the last batch 2 (3?) years ago has a 26.8 seatpost 
diameter, so this isn't new.

Mike M

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:04:00 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>
> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Justus G]

Own a wide selection of Road Runner bags and they have been my go to for 
the last 5 years for sure.  Burrito bags, tool rolls, backpacks.  All great 
stuff!

Don't miss the Comrad lightweight packable backpack.  I bike everywhere and 
travel everywhere with that packable bag.  Folds up and can fit into a 
bottle cage when not needed.

Happy to hear the feedback on their camera strap as I was eyeballing it and 
currently roll with a Fuji X-T1.

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:48:18 PM UTC-6 Esteban wrote:

> I'll come out of infrequently lurking to second the quality of LA-based 
> Road Runner bags. I actually have their camera strap for my Fuji X-T2. 
> Excellent - simple, easily adjusted to fit snug to the body (I wear it in 
> the front). Great for smaller film cameras to keep it on Riv theme. Will 
> make my "tried and liked" list for 2022 I usually post on IG... maybe even 
> Best Material Good of the Year!
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Sorry the pics are so 'inside on a rainy day' lame. I need to get outside 
>> tomorrow and take better ones. It was cold! And rainy! 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
>>> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>>>
>>> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and 
>>> pink on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
>>> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Esteban]

I'll come out of infrequently lurking to second the quality of LA-based 
Road Runner bags. I actually have their camera strap for my Fuji X-T2. 
Excellent - simple, easily adjusted to fit snug to the body (I wear it in 
the front). Great for smaller film cameras to keep it on Riv theme. Will 
make my "tried and liked" list for 2022 I usually post on IG... maybe even 
Best Material Good of the Year!

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Sorry the pics are so 'inside on a rainy day' lame. I need to get outside 
> tomorrow and take better ones. It was cold! And rainy! 
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
>> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>>
>> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
>> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
>> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Joe Bernard]

Sorry the pics are so 'inside on a rainy day' lame. I need to get outside 
tomorrow and take better ones. It was cold! And rainy! 

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>
> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Conway Bennett]

Road Runner Bags are the best bicycle bags.  The Jumbo Jammer is my all 
time favorite bag.  I also have the Mini-Rando bag VO sells which is well 
executed and a bargain.

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 4:06:05 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Nice Joe! I've had my eyes on one of their Jammer bags for a while. I need 
> to move my cargo up front now that I'm riding with a copilot attached to my 
> seat tube. 
>
> It's worth mentioning that they make bags for Velo Orange too!
>
> Paul in Arr
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
>> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>>
>> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
>> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
>> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

David P

Excellent description of your different hand positions & back angles on the 
Rosco bar.  By far, the best write-up, I have ever saw.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:27:05 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> This morning I squeezed a quick ride in before work - a dangerous thing 
> with most any bike but, as I learned, especially so with the Platypus. A 
> short ride can feel like an appetizer and there is always the temptation to 
> eke out a few more miles.
>
> I covered 12 miles of roads, bike paths, and multi-use trails that I've 
> been riding regularly in various loops for the past several years. I have 
> several bikes that are well suited to these types of mixed surface rides 
> and they all bring something different to the table. My Platypus is built 
> with these types of rides in mind with Cliffhanger rims, Gravel King 50mm 
> (rear) and Fleecer Ridge endurance 55mm (front) tires, and 650mm wide Tosco 
> bars.
>
> The Platypus is my first Rivendell and the first one I've ever ridden. 
> I've gotten a few short rides in before this one but those were mostly 
> about setup rather than riding. My goodness, what a bike it is. I guess the 
> best way to describe the ride could be "cruisy zoomy", it's a very easy 
> going yet zippy ride.
>
> It is supremely comfortable and can be a very upright cruiser, though even 
> when ridden this way feels responsive. My setup with a 120mm stem puts me 
> at a ~75 degree back angle with my hands fully rearward on the grips of the 
> Tosco bar, perfect for taking in the scenery and appearing approachable 
> when encountering dog walkers on multi-use trails.
>
> I spend most of my time with the heels of my palms on the front of the 
> grips, palms over the brake lever clamps, fingers either loosely draped 
> over or wrapped around the taped bends of the Tosco bar, giving about a 60 
> degree back angle. This is a good home base position for forward progress, 
> still balanced enough to not put noticeable pressure on the hands.
>
> Moving my hands a bit forward, resting the heels of my palms on the brake 
> lever clamps, and bending the elbows more gets me to a ~45 degree back 
> angle to stretch out a bit or get lower in the face of wind. The forward 
> flats of the bar are also usable when wanting to get to the same angle with 
> less elbow bend and is nice option on open road sections, though I doubt 
> I'll bother taping there.
>
> During standing efforts I can hold the bars back at the grips or up at the 
> bends - both positions work fine and I found myself doing both in different 
> places.
>
> In all positions the fit is roomy and the handling is responsive but not 
> twitchy.
>
> I still haven't installed a front derailleur but a 46x34 low gear is 
> enough to grunt up most of the short climbs on this route. I did opt to 
> walk one short and steep pitch on a trail rather than manually changing to 
> the 30t ring.
>
> I also haven't settled the front carrying method yet but am leaning 
> towards a 137 basket and bag. For this ride temps were in the upper 30Fs 
>  and wanting a place for a layer and extra pair of gloves, I borrowed the 
> Swift Catalyst from my wife's bike to hold those things and my pump. I do 
> plan on putting a bottle cage on the bike but the stem bag is a really 
> convenient spot for the primary water bottle.
>
> A fantastic first ride (including a deer sighting!) for a fantastic bike.
>
> I took a few photos to commemorate the occasion:
>
> [image: Bog-tree.jpg]
> (Our local open space stewards decorate trees throughout town lands this 
> time of year; it's kind of a scavenger hunt.)
>
> [image: otter-slide.jpg]
>
> [image: Bog-deer.png]
> (Excuse the poor photo - this guy was a ways off after he and two does 
> dashed across the path in front of me.)
>
> [image: pine-point.jpg]
>
> -Dave (5'11"' on a 60cm Platy in Massachusetts)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

2 stand outs on this batch of Sam H's from the geo chart:

The seatpost is a 26.8mm,  NOT a more standard 27.2mm.   This indicates the 
28.6mm seattube wall thickness is 0.8mm vs a more standard 0.7.   The 
Butted section wall is probably 1.1mm or thicker.  Seems like Grant likes 
thicker walls at the BB, as has been mentioned in a previous post.  I do 
not recall a 26.8mm seatpost in the past for the Sam H.

The Chain Stay LENGTH varies from 45.5cm (near standard) for a 48/51cm 
frame to 48.5cm for a 60cm frame.  Seems RBW is trying to locate everyone 
at the same spot along the chain stay.  This was mentioned in a previous 
post, but in a funny way.  Seems like they decided to go with it.  Tall 
riders may feel a change.  Short riders less so.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ






On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:

> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>
> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[Shoji Takahashi]

Beautiful platypus! Hope to see you riding around MA-- I'm in Arlington and 
often ride the Minuteman and Battle Road on my Homer. Less frequently ride 
the Fells on my Jones.

I'm thinking of getting a frameset... I have all the parts for 650b build. 
(Missed out on the first run, from which I had collected parts.)

Roberta,
For pedals, I've been really impressed with the MKS Bear Traps. I think I 
purchased them from Riv, but I don't see them on the website anymore. They 
are available at Analog:
https://analogcycles.com/products/mks-xc-bear-trap-iii?variant=40096168018097

They are big/supportive and comfortable for my size 10 foot. I've found 
them to be grippy-enough without damaging soles. (I've logged many miles on 
Thin Gripsters, VP Vice, MKS Sneaker pedals, and the nylon/Clem pedals.)

Good luck!
shoji


On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:30:02 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> Thanks, Roberta - I hesitate to say too much about these pedals/pins as I 
> only have a few rides on them. I put different pedals with the same type of 
> pins on my wife's bike: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B096432HXG
>
> Even pedals with no pins can scrape and draw blood if they contact the 
> shin with enough force. However, if you run your finger over the smaller 
> screws in many nylon pedals you will feel they are sharp and these can 
> scratch deeply with less force and even incidental contact. I have scars 
> from these types of pedals.
>
> By contrast these "newer" (I've only recently been seeing them in use on 
> pedals) style star/torx pins have eased edges but there are more edges due 
> to the shape. Due to the additional surface area I'm expecting they will 
> not dig in to shoes and flesh as easily/much. Here's a closeup I found in 
> an eBay listing for just the pins  
> (they are the same M4 thread as the grub screws used in many metal bodied 
> pedals and can replace them):
>
> [image: star-pins.PNG]
>
> I'm seeing these types of pins on a few pedals but not "serious" MTB 
> pedals (so far). They seem geared more for the casual user, which is what I 
> was looking for. Those who appreciate the grip of the thinner, sharper pins 
> will say that dull pins can be more dangerous if they are more prone to 
> slipping, which I can't disagree with. Thus far I haven't found the star 
> pins to be prone to slipping.
>
> All that said, if you can use a pedal with no pins without slipping then I 
> think that is the best bet. On one bike I have a pair of pedals with no 
> pins but ridges similar to RMX sneaker pedals. These work surprisingly well 
> with sneakers that have some tread as many running shoes do. However they 
> don't have a very large platform (neither do the RMX pedals).
>
> One thing to keep in mind when looking at pedals online is that platform 
> sizes can vary quite a bit - best to compare the specified platform 
> dimensions with those of a pedal you know.
>
> Hope this helps,
> -Dave
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on the new Platy.  I'll be reading the rest of your 
>> report tonight, but the pictures are amazing.
>>
>> Thanks for the bigger pedal at reasonable price suggestions.  I had too 
>> many screw pins dig into my shins and ruin sneakers, so I switched to Clem 
>> pedals (nylon, I think), which I like almost perfectly except would like 
>> wider platform.  Does your pedal really not wreck the soles of shoes or 
>> draw blood?  
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:40:25 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Eric - 
>>>
>>> The pedals are similar to the Stamp pedals but instead of grub screw 
>>> pins (which I have on pedals on a couple of mountain bikes but are quite 
>>> sharp and can tear into casual shoes a bit much) they have more blunted, 
>>> star/torx shaped pins. The large platform is comfortable and the grip is 
>>> just fine for the intended riding. Amazon has a few (identical?) models: 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092V1XT5Y
>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JPNYCJL
>>>
>>> The frame color is mermaid (it's from the November batch) and it is a 
>>> difficult color to capture, especially for my phone which took the photos 
>>> posted above. Over on the "How are you building up your Platypus? 
>>> "
>>>  
>>> thread I posted some photos from a camera that are a bit more nuanced in 
>>> the color reproduction. There are also comments on some of the components 
>>> in that thread.
>>>
>>> At first I thought that, given the choice, lime olive would be my 
>>> preferred color for a Platypus but that I would be fine with the mermaid. 
>>> As it turns out I'm actually glad this round of frames didn't have a choice 
>>> of color because after receiving the frame the mermaid is it for me - such 
>>> a fantastic color.
>>>
>>> Here's the build list (*not yet installed/pictured):
>>>
>>> Frameset: Fall 2022 

[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Paul Clifton]

Nice Joe! I've had my eyes on one of their Jammer bags for a while. I need 
to move my cargo up front now that I'm riding with a copilot attached to my 
seat tube. 

It's worth mentioning that they make bags for Velo Orange too!

Paul in Arr

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>
> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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Re: [RBW] What frame protection tape do you use with long term success ?

[Tom Norton]

Patrick,  why didn't  it work on rack tubes? Was it not flexible? 

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:59:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've got a package of Ortlieb clear stick-on tape that they call "foil" 
> meant to protect painted racks from pannier hooks. Anyone who wants it is 
> welcome to it (you be patient and I'll pay postage).
>
> It might work well for frame protection, but I could not get it to work 
> well on rack tubes.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:09 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> I am considering buying some clear frame protection tape to protect my 
>> Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" while it is relatively still new. 
>> I did some homework. The brand names that I came up with are:
>>
>> *RideWrap kit
>> *invisiFRAME 
>> *Lizard Skins Clear Protective frame kit
>> *3M™ Polyurethane Protective Tape 8671
>> *3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film 
>> *Effetto Mariposa Shelter Protective Tape
>>
>> I am wondering what tape have you used that has weathered exceedingly 
>> very well over a very long time from road beausage ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] For sale: Suntour hats

[Eric Marth]

Hey people — I ordered another batch of Suntour caps and they should be 
ready in about two weeks. 

Thanks to everyone for your interest! 

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 12:45:48 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Glad to hear it, Matt! 
>
> I went with the Adams cap because among guy who embroider hats (I'm not 
> one) these are considered to be some of the best. And I have some friends 
> who've had these over the years and really liked 'em. I could do without 
> the logo on the strap and the little Eiffel Tower on the closure piece, 
> myself. 
>
> I'm satisfied with the color, bill, fit, crown, etc. 
>
> I'm trying to find a cap that is even more plain for the next run. It will 
> be an unstructured, pigment-dyed, six-panel cap, very similar to this 
> round. 
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> I know these are sold out, but figured I would post in case there is 
>> another batch made.  Mine arrived fast and I am happy with the purchase.  I 
>> sorta wish I bought two, but now I am hoping there might be a color change 
>> in another batch.  
>>
>> I also have a big head and it fits me fine.  
>>
>> If I could add any input, I don't think the leather strap offers much in 
>> the way of improvement.  It is not bad, but I probably would prefer it just 
>> be the same fabric as the rest of the hat.  
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 3:31:35 PM UTC-6 edwardb...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What’s the fit? Average? Asking because I have a big noggin :/ a lot of 
>>> baseball hats don’t fit right. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 1:07 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all — I made a very small batch of Suntour hats. They're on Adams LP 
 101 caps, unstructured, with a leather strap out back. 

 They're $30 shipped CON-US. Please DM me to purchase. 

 Thanks! 

 [image: suntour 01 SM.jpg][image: suntour 02 SM.jpg][image: suntour 03 
 SM.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO Crust Juan Martin Bars for 1993 Bridgestone XO-2

[dylan green]

The new Simworks X Golden Pliers bar look like they could be an interesting 
option if you 
go with a 31.8 stem. I had the Juan's on my XO and while I did enjoy them, 
wanted a little more
rise for the stem combo I was running. 

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:50:17 PM UTC-8 e.q.s...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Chris, I think the singles bar is a 25.4 clamp, my current stem is 
> 26.0. If I'm swapping stems I may go for a 31.8 to get something decently 
> wider.  I have really been enjoying hitting all the rough stuff on this 
> bike.  Thanks for the offer though!  RE: fork It's definitely tight spacing 
> and looks a little goofy. Eyeing up the kory york forks for some wider 
> clearance. I have a friend with an XO-4 that he initially crimped the 
> original unicrown fork, but he eventually had Ellis cycles build him a new 
> one( he has 26x2.3" thunder burts in there now).
>
> Cheers!
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:57:27 AM UTC-5 chris...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got a sycip singles bar which is similar to the Juan Martin's for 
>> sale. 
>>
>> Also, how's that front v-brake working? I have a 93 xo-3 with the narrow 
>> spacing between studs, I think the xo-2 was the same frame/fork with 
>> different component spec.
>>
>> Chris 
>> NYC
>> On Monday, 21 November 2022 at 22:41:13 UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build. is the crank 110 BCD? Must be with the 33 ring. The bar set 
>>> up is interesting. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 9:30:50 AM UTC-6 e.q.s...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looking to switch to flat-ish bars on my Bridgestone XO-2. Its a little 
 small for me, so I am trying to keep the backsweep to a minimum with a 8cm 
 dirt drop stem (26.0). Wondering if anyone has leads? 

 Current Build: https://photos.app.goo.gl/oJQj9Qsp1xn1MGFZ8
 (Folded on getting a nice shot of the crankset, but you'll just have to 
 take my word for the Richey Pro 50/33 double) 

 Best,
 Emmet

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: front deraileur dilemma

[Patrick Moore]

That front derailleur does have an exalted height above the big ring but I
gather that it shifts fine. I've left an LX fd in place when I removed the
out 46 t ring and replaced the middle 36 with a 38; the inner 24 remained.
It must have sat as high over the (now) outer 38 as yours above your outer
ring. I just adjusted the travel limit screw. It shifted as well between
the 38 and 24 as it did before between the 36 and the 24.

My current DA 7402 (I think it's "...02") sits high enough to just clear a
bash guard sized to hide a 46 t ring -- ie about the size of a 48 or so --
so the cage sits high indeed over the 42 t big ring. It still shifts wholly
unexceptionally.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:12 AM Justus G  wrote:

> While lots of setups work just fine with minor compromises, I have found
> there is an optimal FD setup for 42/44 (even 46) big ring compact gearing
> if we are talking 8/9 speed triple compatible or similar as a baseline.
>
> HyperDriveC compatible old Shimano FDs in the form of XT M737 and LX M563
> (or similar) are short cage FDs so they clear the chain stays and also
> allows you to generally get your FD at the right height above the big ring.
>
> All threads benefit from pics so here is one of my Riv's with a hand
> sanded silver (not by me) NOS LX M563 FD on my 24/34/46t triple:
>

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Re: [RBW] What frame protection tape do you use with long term success ?

[Patrick Moore]

I've got a package of Ortlieb clear stick-on tape that they call "foil"
meant to protect painted racks from pannier hooks. Anyone who wants it is
welcome to it (you be patient and I'll pay postage).

It might work well for frame protection, but I could not get it to work
well on rack tubes.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:09 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I am considering buying some clear frame protection tape to protect my
> Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" while it is relatively still new.
> I did some homework. The brand names that I came up with are:
>
> *RideWrap kit
> *invisiFRAME
> *Lizard Skins Clear Protective frame kit
> *3M™ Polyurethane Protective Tape 8671
> *3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film
> *Effetto Mariposa Shelter Protective Tape
>
> I am wondering what tape have you used that has weathered exceedingly very
> well over a very long time from road beausage ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H, Nitto Rear Rack, Trunk Bag

[Jake Kutchins]

Probably not, but feel free to PM me an offer! I have some parts set aside 
already so I'd rather sell the Clem as is.

Jake 

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 12:12:32 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Any interest in selling just the frameset +/- wheels ?
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 9:33 AM Davey Two Shoes  
> wrote:
>
>> I recognize this bike!
>>
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Selling my 52 cm dark green Clem H. In good condition but has some 
>>> beausage (scratch on top tube, small chips around chainstay). I love this 
>>> bike, but I'm hoping to sell it to help finance a Platy. Pickup in NYC 
>>> preferred, but open to shipping. $1525.
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>> 650B x 55mm RH Umtanum Ridge Extralight tires (<150 miles)
>>> Excellent condition black MKS king pedals and B17 carved Brooks saddle
>>> 2x8 with friction shifting
>>> Silver crankset
>>> Can include VO constructeur rack, stock Kenda tires, single schwalbe 
>>> g-one tire
>>> note: the wald basket works great but is bent
>>>
>>> Nitto Campee Rear Rack--$150
>>> Arkel TailRider Trunk Bag--$60
>>> Both for $200
>>>
>>> Google drive link 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>>>
>>> --Jake in NYC
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Thumb Shifters, Nitto Stems, Bullmoose Handlebars, Tires, other vintage MTB goodies

[Sean C]

Handful of parts I've got lying around my shop

Based in Los Angeles, down to meetup 
Pics available upon request 
All items shipped via USPS, shipping costs not included 

*Shimano Deerhead M700 Thumb Shifters - $60 *

   - Bombproof friction shifters from Shimano's first MTB lineup 
   - Rebuilt and polished 
   - Up to 10 speed compatible I think? 

*Shimano Deore XT Thumb Shifters - $50*

   - 8 Speed index 
   - 9/10 Speed friction? 

*Microshift 9 Speed Downtube Shifters with Silver Paul Thumbie mounts - 
$160*

   - Barely used 
   - Double/Triple Compatible
   - Friction/Index

*Nitto MT-2 Reversible Stem - $60*

   - 1" threaded with removable "threadless" insert column 
   - 25.4 clamp 
   - Cantilever hole 

*Velo Orange Grand Cru Randonneur Handlebars - $30*

   - 50cm
   - Nice alternative to Nitto Noodle 
   - Bar end shifter compatible 

*Rivendell Bullmoose Handlebar - $150*

   - 1" Threaded 
   - Lots of backsweep and high quill rise

*Unbranded Chrome Bullmoose Handlebar - $100*

   - 1" threaded 
   - 27.5" wide
   - 6" quill rise 
   - Cantilever hanger brazed on 

*SR Slingshot Stem with Sakae MT Handlebars - $100*

   - Klunker style 
   - Cantilever hole 
   - 27" wide handlebars with slight backsweep 

*Rene Herse 650b x 48 Juniper Ridge Pair - $100*

   - Gum wall
   - ~100 miles on them but plenty left 

*700c x 35c Panaracer Gravel King SK Pair - $40*

   - Gum wall 
   - ~150 miles on them but plenty left  



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[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO Crust Juan Martin Bars for 1993 Bridgestone XO-2

[Sean C]

I've got some dullbright Simworks Getarounds if you're interested, 26.0 
clamp, let me know! 

Sean

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:50:17 PM UTC-8 e.q.s...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Chris, I think the singles bar is a 25.4 clamp, my current stem is 
> 26.0. If I'm swapping stems I may go for a 31.8 to get something decently 
> wider.  I have really been enjoying hitting all the rough stuff on this 
> bike.  Thanks for the offer though!  RE: fork It's definitely tight spacing 
> and looks a little goofy. Eyeing up the kory york forks for some wider 
> clearance. I have a friend with an XO-4 that he initially crimped the 
> original unicrown fork, but he eventually had Ellis cycles build him a new 
> one( he has 26x2.3" thunder burts in there now).
>
> Cheers!
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 7:57:27 AM UTC-5 chris...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got a sycip singles bar which is similar to the Juan Martin's for 
>> sale. 
>>
>> Also, how's that front v-brake working? I have a 93 xo-3 with the narrow 
>> spacing between studs, I think the xo-2 was the same frame/fork with 
>> different component spec.
>>
>> Chris 
>> NYC
>> On Monday, 21 November 2022 at 22:41:13 UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build. is the crank 110 BCD? Must be with the 33 ring. The bar set 
>>> up is interesting. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 9:30:50 AM UTC-6 e.q.s...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looking to switch to flat-ish bars on my Bridgestone XO-2. Its a little 
 small for me, so I am trying to keep the backsweep to a minimum with a 8cm 
 dirt drop stem (26.0). Wondering if anyone has leads? 

 Current Build: https://photos.app.goo.gl/oJQj9Qsp1xn1MGFZ8
 (Folded on getting a nice shot of the crankset, but you'll just have to 
 take my word for the Richey Pro 50/33 double) 

 Best,
 Emmet

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 cm Toyo A Homer Hilsen

[Dave C]

I still have this for sale. It is terrific shape overall, excepting some 
paint chipping on the seat tube/top tube lug at the pointy end. 

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 12:21:04 PM UTC-8 Dave C wrote:

> $2450. I am willing to have REI ship it at buyers expense. I will keep my 
> saddle.
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OeefpS48u-wgLaOtDpuYc4HewVltFt1T
>
> I recently purchased a early model, Toyo-built A Homer Hilsen from the 
> previous owner in Los Angeles.  My goal was to see if I would prefer the 
> Homer compared to my Romulus enough to justify the expense. I have invested 
> a few hundred dollars in new Dura Ace bar end shifters, a new XT cassette, 
> new 35 mm Gravelking slicks, and longer cables and cable housing to be able 
> to raise and lower the bars so I can find my desired height. 
>
> It is a very nice bike, but I realize once I put on larger tires I will 
> not sufficient standover for my preference, and I can already go up to 38 
> mm on my Romulus.
>
> I think the frameset is in very good condition, perhaps excellent. There a 
> few minor paint chips on a chain stay, and some chipping on the pointed 
> part of the seat tube / top tube lug pointing towards the saddle. I believe 
> this is a great opportunity for someone who wants a Toyo Homer in a 61 cm 
> to get one in terrific shape. It fits very much like my previous 61 cm 
> Atlantis. It actually handles in a very similar manner and that makes it 
> difficult to sell, but I want to get a fast drop bar mountain bike and a 
> slightly smaller 650b rando bike more than I want to have an additional 
> 700c country bike.
>
> If you want to purchase it without pedals, I would sell it for $2400.
>
> I have a 77 cm saddle height set up as pictured. I would suggest this as a 
> minimum, and if you are a little taller than me you will probably be able 
> to run 40+ mm tires with zero issues. Please message me directly if you 
> have serious interest in this bike. 
>
> Regarding the rest of the parts -
> Nitto Noodle
> Technomic stem, 9 cm (I can swap for another length if you prefer, I have 
> a 5, 8 and a 11 cm.
> Dura Ace bar end shifters, new
> Kickstand
> Nitto seatpost
> Velocity Dyad rims, XT hubs
> XT Rapid Rise rear derailer
> IRD Alpina front derailer
>
> If you want to buy without the wheelset, I will sell it for $2100.
>
> David Carroll
> Carlsbad, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[Roberta]

 Congratulations on the new Platy.  I'll be reading the rest of your report 
tonight, but the pictures are amazing.

Thanks for the bigger pedal at reasonable price suggestions.  I had too 
many screw pins dig into my shins and ruin sneakers, so I switched to Clem 
pedals (nylon, I think), which I like almost perfectly except would like 
wider platform.  Does your pedal really not wreck the soles of shoes or 
draw blood?  

Roberta


On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:40:25 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> Thanks, Eric - 
>
> The pedals are similar to the Stamp pedals but instead of grub screw pins 
> (which I have on pedals on a couple of mountain bikes but are quite sharp 
> and can tear into casual shoes a bit much) they have more blunted, 
> star/torx shaped pins. The large platform is comfortable and the grip is 
> just fine for the intended riding. Amazon has a few (identical?) models: 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092V1XT5Y
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JPNYCJL
>
> The frame color is mermaid (it's from the November batch) and it is a 
> difficult color to capture, especially for my phone which took the photos 
> posted above. Over on the "How are you building up your Platypus? 
> " 
> thread I posted some photos from a camera that are a bit more nuanced in 
> the color reproduction. There are also comments on some of the components 
> in that thread.
>
> At first I thought that, given the choice, lime olive would be my 
> preferred color for a Platypus but that I would be fine with the mermaid. 
> As it turns out I'm actually glad this round of frames didn't have a choice 
> of color because after receiving the frame the mermaid is it for me - such 
> a fantastic color.
>
> Here's the build list (*not yet installed/pictured):
>
> Frameset: Fall 2022 Rivendell Platypus, 60cm (10lbs frame/fork/headset), 
> mermaid
> Headset: FSA Duron 1"
> Bottom Bracket: Shimano BBUN300 68x118
> Crank: Velo Orange 50.4 BCD 46/30
> R. Derailleur: Shimano Altus RD-M310, silver
> F. Derailleur: Shimano Claris FD-2400, silver/gray*
> Shifters: Dia-Compe ENE levers on Velo Orange Thumb mounts
> Cassette: Jim 7sp 13-34t
> Chain: KMC X8 (116+12 links)
> Brakes: Dia-Compe MX2 VC733
> Brake Levers: Tektro CL330
> Rims: Velocity Cliffhanger 700c, 36h
> Hubs: (F) SON Delux Wide Body 36h* / (R) Shimano FH-T3000
> Tires: (F) Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge 700x55 Endurance / (R) Panaracer 
> Gravel King SK 700x50
> Handlebar: Rivendell Tosco 65cm, 31.8
> Stem: Nitto UI-12, 120mm
> Grips: AME Tri, gray
> Saddle: Selle Anatomica X2, black
> Pedals: Ansjs-005, gray
> Seatpost: Kalloy 26.8
> Kickstand: Greenfield
> Lights: (F) SON Edelux II* / (R) Blue Lug Koma
> Rack: Nitto Mark's (M1)
> Bell: Blue Lug retro, gold
>
> -Dave
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks like a nice build, David! Do you have a build list to share? How 
>> are those (what appear to be) Crank Bros Stamp pedals?
>>
>> Is the frame mermaid? It must be, couldn't be anything else. I've found 
>> when taking pictures of my mermaid Appaloosa my camera doesn't render the 
>> color correctly. A lovely but difficult color to capture. For me, at least. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, the Clem L has had my eye for a while and got me looking at Riv 
>>> step-throughs. It looks like such a luxe-smooth ride! These days I call 
>>> most any bike that's not specifically a road or mountain bike an 
>>> "all-rounder" and I have a growing collection of them.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike - I definitely foresee chronic bouts of the cruisy zooms in 
>>> my future!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[EGNolan]

Brian asked "Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not they've made 
any changes to the geometry and sizes available?"

My best guess, based on the location of the chainstay indentions is that 
they've increased those to more closely match the rest of the lineup. I've 
got a LCS (long chainstay) Cheviot, which I absolutely love, and a more 
normal, but lengthy for the time Bleriot, which I also absolutely love. I 
imagine there will be some folks bummed at not having shorter chainstay 
options, but we all saw this coming (and they may have even said as much at 
some point and I either didn't see it or forgot about it).

Eric
Indpls.

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 12:46:24 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> Yeah, I've been on high alert since the beginning of November. Can't wait. 
> We're almost there.
> I thought I was going silver till I saw how the olive turned out... hard 
> decisions to be made.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 9:29 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> I really want one of these, because the lime olive is so gorgeous, but I 
>> don't think I'll be able to fund another Rivendell so soon after building 
>> up my Gus just a couple months ago.
>> I might try to pick up a used dark gold Sam sometime in the next year or 
>> so, or maybe if someone is selling one from this batch.
>>
>> Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not they've made any changes 
>> to the geometry and sizes available?
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not getting a new Sam, as I've already got one, but these colors 
>>> look great. I scraped the images from the instagram post 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Will linked in his last email from House of the Rising Sun in Jakarta. 
>>>
>>> [image: sam limeolive.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: samsilver.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
 over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
 experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
 I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.

 Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Keith Paugh]

Yeah, I've been on high alert since the beginning of November. Can't wait.
We're almost there.
I thought I was going silver till I saw how the olive turned out... hard
decisions to be made.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 9:29 AM Brian Turner  wrote:

> I really want one of these, because the lime olive is so gorgeous, but I
> don't think I'll be able to fund another Rivendell so soon after building
> up my Gus just a couple months ago.
> I might try to pick up a used dark gold Sam sometime in the next year or
> so, or maybe if someone is selling one from this batch.
>
> Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not they've made any changes to
> the geometry and sizes available?
>
> -Brian
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not getting a new Sam, as I've already got one, but these colors look
>> great. I scraped the images from the instagram post
>> 
>> Will linked in his last email from House of the Rising Sun in Jakarta.
>>
>> [image: sam limeolive.jpg]
>>
>> [image: samsilver.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing
>>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your
>>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until
>>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>>
>>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[DavidP]

Thanks, Eric - 

The pedals are similar to the Stamp pedals but instead of grub screw pins 
(which I have on pedals on a couple of mountain bikes but are quite sharp 
and can tear into casual shoes a bit much) they have more blunted, 
star/torx shaped pins. The large platform is comfortable and the grip is 
just fine for the intended riding. Amazon has a few (identical?) models: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092V1XT5Y
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JPNYCJL

The frame color is mermaid (it's from the November batch) and it is a 
difficult color to capture, especially for my phone which took the photos 
posted above. Over on the "How are you building up your Platypus? 
" 
thread I posted some photos from a camera that are a bit more nuanced in 
the color reproduction. There are also comments on some of the components 
in that thread.

At first I thought that, given the choice, lime olive would be my preferred 
color for a Platypus but that I would be fine with the mermaid. As it turns 
out I'm actually glad this round of frames didn't have a choice of color 
because after receiving the frame the mermaid is it for me - such a 
fantastic color.

Here's the build list (*not yet installed/pictured):

Frameset: Fall 2022 Rivendell Platypus, 60cm (10lbs frame/fork/headset), 
mermaid
Headset: FSA Duron 1"
Bottom Bracket: Shimano BBUN300 68x118
Crank: Velo Orange 50.4 BCD 46/30
R. Derailleur: Shimano Altus RD-M310, silver
F. Derailleur: Shimano Claris FD-2400, silver/gray*
Shifters: Dia-Compe ENE levers on Velo Orange Thumb mounts
Cassette: Jim 7sp 13-34t
Chain: KMC X8 (116+12 links)
Brakes: Dia-Compe MX2 VC733
Brake Levers: Tektro CL330
Rims: Velocity Cliffhanger 700c, 36h
Hubs: (F) SON Delux Wide Body 36h* / (R) Shimano FH-T3000
Tires: (F) Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge 700x55 Endurance / (R) Panaracer Gravel 
King SK 700x50
Handlebar: Rivendell Tosco 65cm, 31.8
Stem: Nitto UI-12, 120mm
Grips: AME Tri, gray
Saddle: Selle Anatomica X2, black
Pedals: Ansjs-005, gray
Seatpost: Kalloy 26.8
Kickstand: Greenfield
Lights: (F) SON Edelux II* / (R) Blue Lug Koma
Rack: Nitto Mark's (M1)
Bell: Blue Lug retro, gold

-Dave

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks like a nice build, David! Do you have a build list to share? How are 
> those (what appear to be) Crank Bros Stamp pedals?
>
> Is the frame mermaid? It must be, couldn't be anything else. I've found 
> when taking pictures of my mermaid Appaloosa my camera doesn't render the 
> color correctly. A lovely but difficult color to capture. For me, at least. 
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Doug, the Clem L has had my eye for a while and got me looking at Riv 
>> step-throughs. It looks like such a luxe-smooth ride! These days I call 
>> most any bike that's not specifically a road or mountain bike an 
>> "all-rounder" and I have a growing collection of them.
>>
>> Thanks, Mike - I definitely foresee chronic bouts of the cruisy zooms in 
>> my future!
>
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Brian Turner]

I really want one of these, because the lime olive is so gorgeous, but I 
don't think I'll be able to fund another Rivendell so soon after building 
up my Gus just a couple months ago.
I might try to pick up a used dark gold Sam sometime in the next year or 
so, or maybe if someone is selling one from this batch.

Anyone want to take any bets on whether or not they've made any changes to 
the geometry and sizes available?

-Brian

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm not getting a new Sam, as I've already got one, but these colors look 
> great. I scraped the images from the instagram post 
> 
>  
> Will linked in his last email from House of the Rising Sun in Jakarta. 
>
> [image: sam limeolive.jpg]
>
> [image: samsilver.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:04:00 AM UTC-5 jak...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>
>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[Eric Marth]

Looks like a nice build, David! Do you have a build list to share? How are 
those (what appear to be) Crank Bros Stamp pedals?

Is the frame mermaid? It must be, couldn't be anything else. I've found 
when taking pictures of my mermaid Appaloosa my camera doesn't render the 
color correctly. A lovely but difficult color to capture. For me, at least. 

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> Doug, the Clem L has had my eye for a while and got me looking at Riv 
> step-throughs. It looks like such a luxe-smooth ride! These days I call 
> most any bike that's not specifically a road or mountain bike an 
> "all-rounder" and I have a growing collection of them.
>
> Thanks, Mike - I definitely foresee chronic bouts of the cruisy zooms in 
> my future!

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of the Platypus

[DavidP]

Doug, the Clem L has had my eye for a while and got me looking at Riv 
step-throughs. It looks like such a luxe-smooth ride! These days I call 
most any bike that's not specifically a road or mountain bike an 
"all-rounder" and I have a growing collection of them.

Thanks, Mike - I definitely foresee chronic bouts of the cruisy zooms in my 
future!

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[RBW] New Sam Hillbornes

['Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing over 
the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your experiences 
have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until I saw the 
early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.

Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!

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Re: [RBW] Re: What frame protection tape do you use with long term success ?

[Tom Norton]

Wondering  if the helicopter  tape  would  work  on a Ortlieb rack? Would 
it wrap  around  the small  diameter  tubing. 
Thanks, 
Tom

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> 2nd vote here for the ISC helicopter tape. I’ve used it on my bikepacking 
> rigs for years. It goes on very easily (I apply it “wet” as per the 
> instructions). The best part is that it does not leave any adhesive residue.
>
> On Dec 1, 2022, at 1:32 AM, Ed Carolipio  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I use the ISC Surface Protection ("Helicopter") tape. Good flexibility and 
> adhesiveness but peels off easily and doesn't leave a residue. I can't 
> comment on it being weathered but it stays flexible for years, doesn't come 
> off, and doesn't yellow with age. I just buy a 1" wide roll and it lasts 
> forever. http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html
>
> --Ed C.
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 9:09:29 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I am considering buying some clear frame protection tape to protect my 
>> Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" while it is relatively still new. 
>> I did some homework. The brand names that I came up with are:
>>
>> *RideWrap kit
>> *invisiFRAME 
>> *Lizard Skins Clear Protective frame kit
>> *3M™ Polyurethane Protective Tape 8671
>> *3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film 
>> *Effetto Mariposa Shelter Protective Tape
>>
>> I am wondering what tape have you used that has weathered exceedingly 
>> very well over a very long time from road beausage ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What frame protection tape do you use with long term success ?

[Brian Turner]

2nd vote here for the ISC helicopter tape. I’ve used it on my bikepacking rigs for years. It goes on very easily (I apply it “wet” as per the instructions). The best part is that it does not leave any adhesive residue.On Dec 1, 2022, at 1:32 AM, Ed Carolipio  wrote:I use the ISC Surface Protection ("Helicopter") tape. Good flexibility and adhesiveness but peels off easily and doesn't leave a residue. I can't comment on it being weathered but it stays flexible for years, doesn't come off, and doesn't yellow with age. I just buy a 1" wide roll and it lasts forever. http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html--Ed C.On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 9:09:29 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:I am considering buying some clear frame protection tape to protect my Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" while it is relatively still new. I did some homework. The brand names that I came up with are:*RideWrap kit*invisiFRAME *Lizard Skins Clear Protective frame kit*3M™ Polyurethane Protective Tape 8671*3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film *Effetto Mariposa Shelter Protective TapeI am wondering what tape have you used that has weathered exceedingly very well over a very long time from road beausage ?Kim HetzelYelm, WA. 



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