Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Luke Hendrickson]

I just saw the silver and lime irl yesterday at Riv. Man that lime sure is 
nice in-person. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:04:50 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> There is what appears to be a first gen Hillborne  on the Atlanta 
> Craigslist. Nice build. I wonder who's it is: 
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-hillborne-blue-and/7565756188.html
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The HiHo silver looks wonderful, and will be a neutral enough palette to 
>> absorb plenty of colorful bits.  It is nice to see a different color on the 
>> Sam.  I’ve seen the LimeOlive on the Clem L, and it is dazzling in 
>> sunlight.  Both color options play well with the cream highlight paint, and 
>> you can hardly go wrong with either.  Looks like only the 57 in LimeOlive 
>> has sold out at this point.  HiHo……!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> props to Riv for getting my frame shipped already! i'm sure they have a 
>>> long list to go through.
>>>
>>> too bad it'll be a while before i can get it rolling but i love picking 
>>> out components.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:10:04 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
 Sorry about that! I based my decision with my experience with the fit 
 of my 2019 58cm Homer. The 57 cm sam has a longer reach/effective top tube 
 than my homer and i wouldn't have been able to use drop bars i don't think 
 (but swept back bars would easily work).  

 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:52:50 PM UTC-8 ccf...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Keith,
> If you click on a size and color and then put in a high quantity, it 
> will tell you that you can only add so many to your cart. 
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 4:46 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:
>>
>> Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
>> 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
>> 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
>> 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
>> 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
>> 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive
>>
>> Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # 
>> of frames available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said 
>> this 
>> is the most popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very 
>> popular.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Might have been me?
>>>
>>> I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
>>> Excited and relieved.
>>>
>>> I wonder how they are moving this round.
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with 
>>> Vince.  Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have 
>>> them 
>>> build it up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  
>>> Someone out there is faaat.  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>
 just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a 
 limeolive but something about the very understated silver made me 
 change my 
 mind at the last minute.

 i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall 
 on the upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides 
 differently than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all 
 the 
 build parts!

 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe 
> and it looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my 
> Hillborne I would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  
> If 
> someone was hot for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  
> wrote:
>
>> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think 
>> these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all 
>> the 
>> Hillbornes :) 
>>
>> I think these new colors will look especially good with some 
>> kinda warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum 
>> sidewalls and 
>> warm bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my 
>> thing, 
>> maxing out the neutrals. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 
>> jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought 

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

Thanks dude.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:35 PM Luke Hendrickson 
wrote:

> That Gunnar is dreamy dude.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 1:36:28 PM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I have a Gunnar Sport with 32mm as my fast bike and if you promise not to
>> laugh, this is my garish dad bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>>> You are more than welcome.
>>>
>>> I'm riding a 59cm Clem Smith Jr L bicycle. Third owner in less than one
>>> year.
>>> I love it !
>>>
>>> What are you currently riding ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 12:34 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>>
 I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.

 Thanks though !

 What are you riding ?

 Eliot in Seattle

 On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK
> Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>
> A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell
> 64cm Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone
>> has a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about
>> buying it complete or frameset. Thanks !
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Luke Hendrickson]

That Gunnar is dreamy dude. 

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 1:36:28 PM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a Gunnar Sport with 32mm as my fast bike and if you promise not to 
> laugh, this is my garish dad bike.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> You are more than welcome.
>>
>> I'm riding a 59cm Clem Smith Jr L bicycle. Third owner in less than one 
>> year.
>> I love it !
>>
>> What are you currently riding ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 12:34 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.
>>>
>>> Thanks though !
>>>
>>> What are you riding ?
>>>
>>> Eliot in Seattle
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eliot,

 You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK 
 Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW

 A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell 
 64cm Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike. 

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 

 On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone 
> has a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about 
> buying it complete or frameset. Thanks !

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[RBW] Re: FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycles Buy/Sell/Trade ALERT ! - Pre-Production Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T)

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, Paul.

Kim in Yelm, WA.
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:21:02 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Freaking gorgeous! I'd love to see some higher res close ups of that bike. 
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:50:46 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>> by *Bruce Herbitter* 
>>
>> Update: someone is interested in the complete bike so it is on hold 
>> pending final details. I’ll delete the post if it sells or renew this post 
>> if the sale doesn’t go all the way through. Thanks all 
>> 1995 pre production sample for the Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T) 
>> Frame is Reynolds 753, fork blades are Reynolds 531. Converted to 650B. My 
>> garage is too crowded and this bike doesn’t get the miles it used to the 
>> older I get. Made by Waterford. Paint looks good from a few feet away but 
>> has beausage. Maybe 7.5 out of 10?
>> Nitto 135 handlebar, Nitto tall Technomic stem, Tektro R556 long reach 
>> brakes, Suntour brake levers, Silver ratchet shift levers, Campy Victory FD
>> Shimano Ultegra long cage RD, Campy Veloce 50/34 x 170 crankset
>> Selle Anatomica X2 saddle. Wheels are 32s cross 3 laced Velocity A23 with 
>> butted spokes on Shimano 105 rear and Deore LX front hubs. Tires are Pari 
>> Moto. Chris King stainless cages. Pump, pedals, bell, and Banjo Bros bags 
>> included. 
>> $1,600 complete as shown + shipping at cost (or free pick up near 
>> Montgomery AL) or $800 Frameset only, same shipping deal. Message me to 
>> discuss, ask questions, etc.
>> 23
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[RBW] Re: FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycles Buy/Sell/Trade ALERT ! - Pre-Production Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T)

[Paul Clifton]

Freaking gorgeous! I'd love to see some higher res close ups of that bike. 
Thanks for sharing.

Paul in AR

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:50:46 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
> by *Bruce Herbitter* 
>
> Update: someone is interested in the complete bike so it is on hold 
> pending final details. I’ll delete the post if it sells or renew this post 
> if the sale doesn’t go all the way through. Thanks all 
> 1995 pre production sample for the Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T) 
> Frame is Reynolds 753, fork blades are Reynolds 531. Converted to 650B. My 
> garage is too crowded and this bike doesn’t get the miles it used to the 
> older I get. Made by Waterford. Paint looks good from a few feet away but 
> has beausage. Maybe 7.5 out of 10?
> Nitto 135 handlebar, Nitto tall Technomic stem, Tektro R556 long reach 
> brakes, Suntour brake levers, Silver ratchet shift levers, Campy Victory FD
> Shimano Ultegra long cage RD, Campy Veloce 50/34 x 170 crankset
> Selle Anatomica X2 saddle. Wheels are 32s cross 3 laced Velocity A23 with 
> butted spokes on Shimano 105 rear and Deore LX front hubs. Tires are Pari 
> Moto. Chris King stainless cages. Pump, pedals, bell, and Banjo Bros bags 
> included. 
> $1,600 complete as shown + shipping at cost (or free pick up near 
> Montgomery AL) or $800 Frameset only, same shipping deal. Message me to 
> discuss, ask questions, etc.
> 23
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Paul Clifton]

Brian, FWIW (not much, especially since this thread is about the Massive 
Mountain Mixte) - but I think there were teens of the mediums made. They 
ended up doing two runs of them, and one of them was at least 10 bikes. So 
they're less scarce, but only slightly. The mediums used Appaloosa forks.

Paul in AR

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> Thanks, Leah, for the heads up for the long legged of us who happen to be 
> non-facebook-users!  That is certainly Will’s Mega Roscoe MTN Mixte and I 
> think made in the single digits (I guess all sizes of the Roscoe Mixte were 
> down in single digits but can’t remember.). This size MTN Mixte was based 
> on forks for designed but never built 64 or maybe 66cm Hunqapillars (I 
> forget the exact size but it was bigger than the biggest made 62cm Hunq.) 
>
> If this were frame only and local I would definitely need to consider make 
> physical and financial space to pursue it.  I strongly prefer the 
> aesthetics of this model vs. the Clem L for some reason.  It’s somewhat 
> hard to explain, because I’m not opposed to the curved L in any way and 
> even really like the Gus/Susie top tube curves… I think it’s more how the 
> Roscoe’s straight, nearly parallel tubes kind of resemble a Raleigh Sports 
> three speed step through.
>
> I was on the fence for a bit between this model and the Clem H once I 
> caught wind of their imminent release. Without the finances for both, I 
> opted for the value and certainty of the 65cm Clem complete, which was 
> released first and in greater numbers, although still limited in the XL 
> size for the discontinued H type.  I’d eventually come to completely miss 
> the initial announcement of the Roscoe presale until after they (XL) were 
> all accounted for anyway so it kind of worked out for the best that I went 
> for the Clem when the opportunity came as there.  I always thought I’d 
> still try to snag one of these Roscoes if they ever became available on the 
> second hand market but would definitely need to be frame/fork for me to 
> even make it work and still retain the Clem.
>
> Looks like a really nice build and hope that for whoever ends up grabbing 
> it, it puts a huge smile on their face every time the get in the saddle!
>
> Brian 
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
>> I really aesthetically enjoy the rosco bubbe. It's too bad it was such a 
>> short lived frame set. That XL is a good looking bike.  
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork 
>>> built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual 
>>> Riv magic!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8 
>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 
 ish frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
 frames) for under $3k.

 On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that 
>> has a Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post 
>> the 
>> link here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people 
>> go 
>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
>> present for someone.
>> Leah 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Wow, my last few posts have been full of typos.  Maybe I need to go dormant
again for a while… but I had to at least acknowledge my blatant repeat
offense at misspelling ROSCO as Roscoe.  The backwards 3 in the Bubbe part
seems to have become ingrained enough in my mind that I falsely attribute
it to both halves of the name.

On Saturday, December 17, 2022, Coal Bee Rye Anne <
lionsrugbyalu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Leah, for the heads up for the long legged of us who happen to be
> non-facebook-users!  That is certainly Will’s Mega Roscoe MTN Mixte and I
> think made in the single digits (I guess all sizes of the Roscoe Mixte were
> down in single digits but can’t remember.). This size MTN Mixte was based
> on forks for designed but never built 64 or maybe 66cm Hunqapillars (I
> forget the exact size but it was bigger than the biggest made 62cm Hunq.)
>
> If this were frame only and local I would definitely need to consider make
> physical and financial space to pursue it.  I strongly prefer the
> aesthetics of this model vs. the Clem L for some reason.  It’s somewhat
> hard to explain, because I’m not opposed to the curved L in any way and
> even really like the Gus/Susie top tube curves… I think it’s more how the
> Roscoe’s straight, nearly parallel tubes kind of resemble a Raleigh Sports
> three speed step through.
>
> I was on the fence for a bit between this model and the Clem H once I
> caught wind of their imminent release. Without the finances for both, I
> opted for the value and certainty of the 65cm Clem complete, which was
> released first and in greater numbers, although still limited in the XL
> size for the discontinued H type.  I’d eventually come to completely miss
> the initial announcement of the Roscoe presale until after they (XL) were
> all accounted for anyway so it kind of worked out for the best that I went
> for the Clem when the opportunity came as there.  I always thought I’d
> still try to snag one of these Roscoes if they ever became available on the
> second hand market but would definitely need to be frame/fork for me to
> even make it work and still retain the Clem.
>
> Looks like a really nice build and hope that for whoever ends up grabbing
> it, it puts a huge smile on their face every time the get in the saddle!
>
> Brian
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022, Mackenzy Albright <
> mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I really aesthetically enjoy the rosco bubbe. It's too bad it was such a
>> short lived frame set. That XL is a good looking bike.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork
>>> built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual
>>> Riv magic!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8
>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900
 ish frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of
 frames) for under $3k.

 On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding
 Ding! wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/
> 5447624762012579/
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that
>> has a Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the
>> link here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people 
>> go
>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas
>> present for someone.
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Thanks, Leah, for the heads up for the long legged of us who happen to be
non-facebook-users!  That is certainly Will’s Mega Roscoe MTN Mixte and I
think made in the single digits (I guess all sizes of the Roscoe Mixte were
down in single digits but can’t remember.). This size MTN Mixte was based
on forks for designed but never built 64 or maybe 66cm Hunqapillars (I
forget the exact size but it was bigger than the biggest made 62cm Hunq.)

If this were frame only and local I would definitely need to consider make
physical and financial space to pursue it.  I strongly prefer the
aesthetics of this model vs. the Clem L for some reason.  It’s somewhat
hard to explain, because I’m not opposed to the curved L in any way and
even really like the Gus/Susie top tube curves… I think it’s more how the
Roscoe’s straight, nearly parallel tubes kind of resemble a Raleigh Sports
three speed step through.

I was on the fence for a bit between this model and the Clem H once I
caught wind of their imminent release. Without the finances for both, I
opted for the value and certainty of the 65cm Clem complete, which was
released first and in greater numbers, although still limited in the XL
size for the discontinued H type.  I’d eventually come to completely miss
the initial announcement of the Roscoe presale until after they (XL) were
all accounted for anyway so it kind of worked out for the best that I went
for the Clem when the opportunity came as there.  I always thought I’d
still try to snag one of these Roscoes if they ever became available on the
second hand market but would definitely need to be frame/fork for me to
even make it work and still retain the Clem.

Looks like a really nice build and hope that for whoever ends up grabbing
it, it puts a huge smile on their face every time the get in the saddle!

Brian
Lawrenceville NJ

On Saturday, December 17, 2022, Mackenzy Albright <
mackenzy.albri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really aesthetically enjoy the rosco bubbe. It's too bad it was such a
> short lived frame set. That XL is a good looking bike.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork
>> built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual
>> Riv magic!
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8
>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900
>>> ish frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of
>>> frames) for under $3k.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/
 permalink/5447624762012579/

 On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding
 Ding! wrote:

> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has
> a Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link
> here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go
> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas
> present for someone.
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Fall Foliage Fotos 2022

[Eric Marth]

Lovely! Thanks Masa 

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:49:44 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:

> Hi, it's almost winter here in Japan but earlier this week I could enjoy 
> some autumn leaves at my local park in west Tokyo.
> I'd like to share some photos from the ride as well as since I don't know 
> how to put many photos on a post I'd share my Instagram post too.
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CmJpF_GSI_2/
>
> I ride my Platypus to commute mostly but cycling in nature is also really 
> fun.
> Masa
> [image: 846B7921-96F7-4C7B-8DC6-6E7FABAA0576_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
> 2022年11月27日日曜日 11:16:10 UTC+9 RichS:
>
>> Eric, thanks very much. Inspiring words and pics coming from you! Thanks 
>> for that:-)
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Nice ones Rich and Luke! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 3:47:14 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 [image: 7D7DD80C-F09D-457D-8D6B-35A8AA2B43F7.jpeg]

 Flew to Orange County last month with the Riv and Rockwall, TX this 
 month! Been fun being able to take it around and ride in different places.



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Re: [RBW] Will's Roadini SS

[Eric Marth]

Will: "I used Blue Lug natural cotton tape and shellac'd it clear for that 
stale pee look I was aiming for." 

I love a good shellac recipe and keep them in my mental index. 

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:19:32 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> This is funny. I mostly ride a fixed gear road bike, but this thread has 
> me thinking about a SS FW road bike. I could use a tensioner for that kind 
> of build, which would open up a lot of interesting frames to think about. 
>
> I could finally flip over one of my flip/flop wheels and give it a try, I 
> guess. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022, JohnS  wrote:
>
>>
>> On my Quickbeam there is a fixed 18 cog that I use all the time and on 
>> the other side is a fixed 16 that I never use. So as long as I can get it 
>> off the hub, I'll try one of the SS freewheels that I have. Should be able 
>> to work on it over the Christmas break. 
>>
>> I agree Philip, changing tires, swapping bars, adding/removing 
>> fenders/racks all make a bike seem like new.
>>
>> On the upside of fixed gear riding, I can do a very good track stand, 
>> being able to push forward or backward just makes it so much easier. I 
>> don't even try on my multi-geared bikes any more.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> JohnS
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:14:52 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m a big fan of riding fixed. It just feels good to me, but I’m not an 
>>> evangelist: “more for me, I guess!” I like having a second gear option (two 
>>> rings, dingle cog), but almost never use the low gear. 
>>>
>>> Will’s Roadini is like a Golden Age tribute bike. I love it. Now I kinda 
>>> want one, but I’ll go swap tires around on the bikes I’ve got, instead. 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Sonoma County, Calif
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>>
 It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a 
 Dos Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth 
 sprocket. 
 The 17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear) 
 in the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and 
 Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you 
 focus 
 on building momentum, and save strength for hills.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>
> And Will's post : 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>  
> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has 
> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
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Re: [RBW] Will's Roadini SS

[Eric Marth]

Will: "The stale pee look I was looking for." 

I love a good shellac recipe and keep them in my mental index. 

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:19:32 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> This is funny. I mostly ride a fixed gear road bike, but this thread has 
> me thinking about a SS FW road bike. I could use a tensioner for that kind 
> of build, which would open up a lot of interesting frames to think about. 
>
> I could finally flip over one of my flip/flop wheels and give it a try, I 
> guess. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022, JohnS  wrote:
>
>>
>> On my Quickbeam there is a fixed 18 cog that I use all the time and on 
>> the other side is a fixed 16 that I never use. So as long as I can get it 
>> off the hub, I'll try one of the SS freewheels that I have. Should be able 
>> to work on it over the Christmas break. 
>>
>> I agree Philip, changing tires, swapping bars, adding/removing 
>> fenders/racks all make a bike seem like new.
>>
>> On the upside of fixed gear riding, I can do a very good track stand, 
>> being able to push forward or backward just makes it so much easier. I 
>> don't even try on my multi-geared bikes any more.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> JohnS
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:14:52 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m a big fan of riding fixed. It just feels good to me, but I’m not an 
>>> evangelist: “more for me, I guess!” I like having a second gear option (two 
>>> rings, dingle cog), but almost never use the low gear. 
>>>
>>> Will’s Roadini is like a Golden Age tribute bike. I love it. Now I kinda 
>>> want one, but I’ll go swap tires around on the bikes I’ve got, instead. 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Sonoma County, Calif
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>>
 It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a 
 Dos Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth 
 sprocket. 
 The 17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear) 
 in the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and 
 Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you 
 focus 
 on building momentum, and save strength for hills.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>
> And Will's post : 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>  
> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has 
> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Slin]

I'm still on the lookout for the Missing Link book though!

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 4:41:16 PM UTC-8 Slin wrote:

> Yeah, I just laced up my first wheel yesterday using the Jim Langley video 
> and Sheldon Brown's website. The video helped me with some small things 
> like how to hold spokes and nipples to make it smoother and using a spare 
> spoke to hold the nipples when attaching them.
>
> I'll see how things go when I start truing the wheel. Wish me luck!
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> +1 on the Jim Langley video. I have referred to that along with Jobst's 
>> book and Sheldon's web site.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Also this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
>>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Slin]

Yeah, I just laced up my first wheel yesterday using the Jim Langley video 
and Sheldon Brown's website. The video helped me with some small things 
like how to hold spokes and nipples to make it smoother and using a spare 
spoke to hold the nipples when attaching them.

I'll see how things go when I start truing the wheel. Wish me luck!

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:

> +1 on the Jim Langley video. I have referred to that along with Jobst's 
> book and Sheldon's web site.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Also this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
>>
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Re: [RBW] Will's Roadini SS

[Eric Daume]

This is funny. I mostly ride a fixed gear road bike, but this thread has me
thinking about a SS FW road bike. I could use a tensioner for that kind of
build, which would open up a lot of interesting frames to think about.

I could finally flip over one of my flip/flop wheels and give it a try, I
guess.

Eric

On Saturday, December 17, 2022, JohnS  wrote:

>
> On my Quickbeam there is a fixed 18 cog that I use all the time and on the
> other side is a fixed 16 that I never use. So as long as I can get it off
> the hub, I'll try one of the SS freewheels that I have. Should be able to
> work on it over the Christmas break.
>
> I agree Philip, changing tires, swapping bars, adding/removing
> fenders/racks all make a bike seem like new.
>
> On the upside of fixed gear riding, I can do a very good track stand,
> being able to push forward or backward just makes it so much easier. I
> don't even try on my multi-geared bikes any more.
>
> Thanks,
> JohnS
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:14:52 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> I’m a big fan of riding fixed. It just feels good to me, but I’m not an
>> evangelist: “more for me, I guess!” I like having a second gear option (two
>> rings, dingle cog), but almost never use the low gear.
>>
>> Will’s Roadini is like a Golden Age tribute bike. I love it. Now I kinda
>> want one, but I’ll go swap tires around on the bikes I’ve got, instead.
>>
>> Philip
>> Sonoma County, Calif
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM Berkeleyan  wrote:
>>
>>> It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a
>>> Dos Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth sprocket.
>>> The 17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear)
>>> in the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and
>>> Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you focus
>>> on building momentum, and save strength for hills.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant

 And Will's post : https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/
 news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1 nails
 what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has been a
 fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS addictive.  I
 am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023

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Re: [RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[JohnS]

On my Quickbeam there is a fixed 18 cog that I use all the time and on the 
other side is a fixed 16 that I never use. So as long as I can get it off 
the hub, I'll try one of the SS freewheels that I have. Should be able to 
work on it over the Christmas break. 

I agree Philip, changing tires, swapping bars, adding/removing 
fenders/racks all make a bike seem like new.

On the upside of fixed gear riding, I can do a very good track stand, being 
able to push forward or backward just makes it so much easier. I don't even 
try on my multi-geared bikes any more.

Thanks,
JohnS
On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:14:52 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I’m a big fan of riding fixed. It just feels good to me, but I’m not an 
> evangelist: “more for me, I guess!” I like having a second gear option (two 
> rings, dingle cog), but almost never use the low gear. 
>
> Will’s Roadini is like a Golden Age tribute bike. I love it. Now I kinda 
> want one, but I’ll go swap tires around on the bikes I’ve got, instead. 
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM Berkeleyan  wrote:
>
>> It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a 
>> Dos Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth sprocket. 
>> The 17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear) 
>> in the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and 
>> Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you focus 
>> on building momentum, and save strength for hills.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>>>
>>> And Will's post : 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>>>  
>>> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has 
>>> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
>>> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome.

I'm riding a 59cm Clem Smith Jr L bicycle. Third owner in less than one
year.
I love it !

What are you currently riding ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 12:34 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.
>
> Thanks though !
>
> What are you riding ?
>
> Eliot in Seattle
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK
>> Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>>
>> A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell 64cm
>> Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone has
>>> a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about buying
>>> it complete or frameset. Thanks !
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Eliot Balogh]

I’ve been checking it 10 times a day :p I have a problem I know.

Thanks though !

What are you riding ?

Eliot in Seattle

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 10:56 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK
> Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
>
> A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell 64cm
> Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone has
>> a Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about buying
>> it complete or frameset. Thanks !
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Mackenzy Albright]

I really aesthetically enjoy the rosco bubbe. It's too bad it was such a 
short lived frame set. That XL is a good looking bike.  

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork 
> built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual 
> Riv magic!
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 ish 
>> frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
>> frames) for under $3k.
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has 
 a Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
 here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
 crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
 present for someone.
 Leah 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[Philip Williamson]

I’m a big fan of riding fixed. It just feels good to me, but I’m not an
evangelist: “more for me, I guess!” I like having a second gear option (two
rings, dingle cog), but almost never use the low gear.

Will’s Roadini is like a Golden Age tribute bike. I love it. Now I kinda
want one, but I’ll go swap tires around on the bikes I’ve got, instead.

Philip
Sonoma County, Calif

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 11:02 AM Berkeleyan  wrote:

> It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a
> Dos Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth sprocket.
> The 17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear)
> in the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and
> Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you focus
> on building momentum, and save strength for hills.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>>
>> And Will's post :
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has
>> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS
>> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
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[RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[Berkeleyan]

It's a different ride, and a fun ride, to have a single speed. I have a Dos 
Eno on my QuickBeam, but still stay primarily on the 15 tooth sprocket. The 
17 comes into play for East Bay hills, but I rode (with camping gear) in 
the 15 from Berkeley to the Entmoot in Marin via San Francisco and 
Sausalito/Tiburon, and it was delightful. With no levers to move, you focus 
on building momentum, and save strength for hills.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:57:35 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Have to say...I like that bike a lot. Very clean and elegant
>
> And Will's post : 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/singlespeed-roadini?mc_cid=1ea8aef045_eid=0074b52ae1
>  
> nails what I like about single-speeds; for some years now my SS PX-10 has 
> been a fave. Apologies to Rivendell but riding that old Peugeot IS 
> addictive.  I am curious to see the landing of the Roaduno in 2023
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Eliot,

You might want to keep both eyes open in a watch through the FACEBOOK 
Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE site;
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW

A member herein recently found what he was looking for; a Rivendell 64cm 
Clem Smith Jr. "H" bike. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 5:28:26 AM UTC-8 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone has a 
> Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about buying it 
> complete or frameset. Thanks !

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Chris L]

My first run gray/orange Hunqapillar fits Antelope Hills (700 x 55) on Dyad 
rims with plenty of clearance.  

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:35:21 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:

> James, I can’t enumerate the all the differences, but I’m running René 
> Herse 29" x 2.2" (700C x 55) Antelope Hill tires on my green Waterford Hunq 
> 58, built in 2012, and there’s clearance to spare. Even with the 65 SKS 
> fenders. I know early literature on Hunqs said that 55 was the maximum 
> width. Later literature said the max was 2.3/58. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:37:40 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> What are the differences between Hunqapillar generations?  I have a July 
>> 2010 Waterford 62cm.  Right now it's got 2.1" Schwalbe Thunder Burts.  I 
>> think getting 2.2" tires on the back would be dicey.  Did the green 
>> generation of the frame have bigger clearance?  Longer wheelbase?
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:26:45 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> One more note that I didn't think of until I hit submit - the batch 
>>> differences that exist on Bombadils (and maybe Hunqapillars too) are more 
>>> significant than the difference between a Bombadil and a Hunq if you remove 
>>> the location of manufacture from the equation. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 16:24:22 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Just catching this now, hey thanks for the shoutout Eric! And it means 
 a lot that you said that about the forest photo! That was a special day, 
 first ride on the rebuild after paint.

 I don't have nearly the historical knowledge that many here do, and a 
 lot has already been said. But here are my summarized thoughts between the 
 two anyway, beyond the obvious difference of location of manufacture. The 
 Hunqapillar seems to me like a "v2" Bombadil - they increased tire 
 clearance over the Bombadil from 2.1 to 2.4" on most sizes, they made 
 little geometry tweaks but just a smidge here and there, and notably they 
 made the frame more cost-effective by not only changing suppliers but by 
 simplifying the design a bit. 

 To me they are still both "ATB" Rivendells, made to tackle trails 
 loaded or not, and also be comfortable to ride on pavement as long as 
 you're not in too much of a rush. When it comes to which is more coveted, 
 it really comes down to whether the little superfluous (but beautiful) 
 details on the Bombadil are important to you, and/or which paint job and 
 geometry specifics suit you better. I think of them like the Appaloosa and 
 Atlantis - basically two flavors of the same bike.   

  

 On Sunday, 11 December 2022 at 07:16:08 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're 
> stout, beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. 
> While I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on 
> the 
> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>
> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about 
> these bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>
> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
> thread 
> ,
>  there's 
> some great info there. 
>
> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>
> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 
> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very 
> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose 
> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture 
> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>
> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>
> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I 
> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's 
> got 
> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. 
>
> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>
> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up 
> here .
>
> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>
> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW 
> had to stop using Tolkien names. 
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[RichS]

+1 on the Jim Langley video. I have referred to that along with Jobst's 
book and Sheldon's web site.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:41:58 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Also this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Ryan Frahm]

I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork 
built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual 
Riv magic!

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 ish 
> frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
> frames) for under $3k.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has a 
>>> Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
>>> here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
>>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
>>> present for someone.
>>> Leah 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Conway Bennett]

One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 ish 
frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
frames) for under $3k.

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has a 
>> Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
>> here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
>> present for someone.
>> Leah 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank you for the information, Julian.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 4:27 AM Julian Westerhout 
wrote:

> Kim,
>
> From the terms and conditions of the pirated 5th edition you linked to:
>
> "This book required much work and expertise but it's not expensive. If you
> are reading a copy that you obtained without paying then please go to
> www.wheelpro.uk and make a purchase and obtain the most up to date
> version"
>
>
> The 7th edition (2 newer than the pirated version) is 9 British pounds, or
> at the current exchange rate, $10.93, which I suspect for most of us on
> this list is not a substantial burden. Should anyone find the book useful
> I'd suggest that they go ahead and purchase it.
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:03:14 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I found the book online for free here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/ontime/bike/blob/master/Roger-Musson---The-Professional-Guide-to-Wheelbuilding.pdf
>> just keep clicking on "SHOW MORE".
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Grateful for the tip. I'll check it out.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 04:23:04 PM MST, David Person <
>>> cycli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with this publication and don't mean to hijack your
>>> post, but when I took up wheel building two years ago I purchased a copy of
>>> Roger Munson's "Professional Guide to Wheel Building" and it was the best
>>> $12 I've ever spent.  The book is so well written and laid out that it gave
>>> me confidence that I could successfully build a set of wheels.  I've since
>>> built 7 pairs.  The book is not only a great resource, I found it an
>>> enjoyable read.  I've got copies of other books on wheel building,
>>> including the classic "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.  None 'spoke' to
>>> me like the Munson book (yeah, pun intended).  I can't speak highly enough
>>> about it.  I've go no financial ties to Roger or his book, I'm just not
>>> sure I would have take the plunge into wheel building had I not read it.
>>>
>>> https://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:58:02 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>>
>>> Oooo. I'd sure like same!
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:43 PM, Slin
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was just chatting with Rich Lesnik and he recommended a wheel building
>>> book/pamphlet from the Missing Link (sad hearing that shop is closing, btw).
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone had a copy I could buy or know if there are
>>> scans of it somewhere.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Slin
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has a 
> Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
> here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
> present for someone.
> Leah 
>

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[RBW] Rosco Mtn Mixte?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that has a 
Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post the link 
here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people go 
crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
present for someone.
Leah 

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[RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis

[Eliot B]

I know it’s a long shot and I have saved EBay searches but if anyone has a 
Toyo built Atlantis in 54.5 or 56. I’d love to talk to you about buying it 
complete or frameset. Thanks !

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Garth]

FWIW, if anyone wants to geek out on all things wheel building, check out 
the Wheel Fanatyk website for both "information" as well as wheelbuilding 
hardware that while geared toward the professional, anyone of interest can 
acquire. There's a whole lotta info there, so take your time, it has lots 
of rabbit holes.
https://wheelfanatyk.com/collections
https://wheelfanatyk.com/pages/library
Under https://wheelfanatyk.com/pages/manuals  is a pdf of the 1986 
Bicycling Mag Wheelbuilding guide written by Eric Hjertberg, 
wheelbuilder/co-founder of Wheelsmith. 


That said, I myself like audio/visual ways like the Jim Langley video 
mentioned above. He has an inviting and appealing way about him, that's the 
best I can describe it. Blueprints and methodology alone don't do much for 
me... when someone animates it, brings it to life in understandable and 
universal language .. well that's relatable. 

After watching him last year, even I decided to play with some wheels I had 
built 30 years ago that needed some fine tuning, and to build my own again. 
I figured with the silly delivery and labor costs of custom wheels, and the 
inherent limited hardware choices all wheelbuilders offer, I may as well 
invest in a decent stand, a new dish gauge and anything else I may need. So 
I bought a Unior 1689 stand and the calibration gauge for it. It sure is 
nice having a stable, consistent platform to work on wheels !  I chose the 
Unior because it's perfectly stable as-is without needing to buy a base. 

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Missing Link wheel building book

[Julian Westerhout]

Kim, 

>From the terms and conditions of the pirated 5th edition you linked to: 

"This book required much work and expertise but it's not expensive. If you 
are reading a copy that you obtained without paying then please go to 
www.wheelpro.uk and make a purchase and obtain the most up to date version" 


The 7th edition (2 newer than the pirated version) is 9 British pounds, or 
at the current exchange rate, $10.93, which I suspect for most of us on 
this list is not a substantial burden. Should anyone find the book useful 
I'd suggest that they go ahead and purchase it. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:03:14 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I found the book online for free here:
>
>
> https://github.com/ontime/bike/blob/master/Roger-Musson---The-Professional-Guide-to-Wheelbuilding.pdf
> just keep clicking on "SHOW MORE". 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 4:16:45 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Grateful for the tip. I'll check it out.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 04:23:04 PM MST, David Person <
>> cycli...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> I am unfamiliar with this publication and don't mean to hijack your post, 
>> but when I took up wheel building two years ago I purchased a copy of Roger 
>> Munson's "Professional Guide to Wheel Building" and it was the best $12 
>> I've ever spent.  The book is so well written and laid out that it gave me 
>> confidence that I could successfully build a set of wheels.  I've since 
>> built 7 pairs.  The book is not only a great resource, I found it an 
>> enjoyable read.  I've got copies of other books on wheel building, 
>> including the classic "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.  None 'spoke' to 
>> me like the Munson book (yeah, pun intended).  I can't speak highly enough 
>> about it.  I've go no financial ties to Roger or his book, I'm just not 
>> sure I would have take the plunge into wheel building had I not read it.
>>
>> https://www.wheelpro.co.uk/wheelbuilding/book.php
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:58:02 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>> Oooo. I'd sure like same!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:43 PM, Slin
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was just chatting with Rich Lesnik and he recommended a wheel building 
>> book/pamphlet from the Missing Link (sad hearing that shop is closing, btw).
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone had a copy I could buy or know if there are 
>> scans of it somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Slin
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - 2002 Size 60 Rambouillet

[ascpgh]

Sweet, Mike! You've joined the subset of RBW OG riders and yes, orange is 
the fastest color. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:19:24 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I haven't had a proper Riv for about 5 years and had been itching for a 
> simple, rackless bike to take out on mid-day rides with no destination in 
> mind. I picked this up from a seller on Pinkbike. Aside from the 
> wheels/drivetrain, I've switched up everything else about the build. I 
> especially like the aesthetic of the lugged stem/seatpost with the lugs of 
> the frame, so many lugs! Frame has the expected paint rubs and an 
> unexpected small dent in the top tube, but hey, beausage! Now I don't have 
> to be so precious with it. I'm very curious how it will ride compared with 
> my 650b Rando Fitz. 
>
> It's currently kitted out with 48 Noodles, but may switch to Mustache 
> which I'm finding I like more and more. I've got 35mm Bon Jon Pass tires in 
> there now with very little fender room to spare. I may go with 32mm tires 
> and fender it up for the winter and put 35s back on for the summer. I think 
> the wheels are stock Dura Ace 9sp era hubs. The TA cranks are gorgeous, 
> though I'll likely switch them out for WI Road Cranks. I also haven't used 
> DT shifters in at least 10 years, so am excited to try out the Silver 
> Shifters on here.
>
> My ultimate plan is to build up a 700c SS wheelset with WI ENO Eccentric 
> hub. After seeing Will's blog post yesterday about his SS Roadini, my plans 
> solidified. Minneapolis is currently under 6" of fresh snow with single 
> digit temps in the forecast, so haven't gotten this out for a test ride yet.
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9zLj1t3dUEogv88a8
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