[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

[greenteadrinkers]

I'd suggest checking out the Red Leaf Rambler just a litter few hours 
northwest of the Nor'Easter here in Western Mass. Last fall was the second 
year of the event, the routes are really great and rather challenging. 
Also, there's the D2RD.

https://www.hampshirebicycleexchange.com/shop-rides/redleaframbler2022

https://www.franklinlandtrust.org/d2r2/

Best - Scott

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 11:05:57 PM UTC-5 J wrote:

> DavidP-  your area looks like really great riding. I'd been wondering 
> where you were from your pics and suspeted the NE and I see now it Mass. I 
> drove up to Connecticut for the first time two Octobers ago for the Nutmeg 
> Nor'Easter and really fell for that area of the country. Can't wait to get 
> back up north for more riding. Also, good job on the pic collage. Not sure 
> how you did it.
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:16:59 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> Thanks! What fun to see them all together as in a poster*!  *Enjoy that 
>> Platypus.
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 9:34:46 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea for a thread, Paul - I'm looking forward to seeing all the 
>>> photos!
>>>
>>> Here's a snapshot of my 22 all in one image - you can click on the 
>>> attachment for the full size version. 
>>> You can see that the Platypus was a great inspiration to ride and take 
>>> photos as it is in fully half of them even though I've only been riding it 
>>> since November.
>>>
>>> -Dave (near Boston)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
 My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 
 2 dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
 The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and 
 bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, 
 but 
 a few others are in the mix.
 What's yours?
 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

[Drew Saunders]

Paul,

May I ask what you're using to attach lights to the side of your basket? I 
made a "fake short handlebar" from an old broomstick and a long bolt to get 
a light out in front of my fender, but it doesn't work with newer lights, 
and I like your "tiny fake handlebar attached to the side of the basket" 
better.

Thanks, and great pics, by the way!

Drew

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 2 
> dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and bike-trip 
> related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but a few 
> others are in the mix.
> What's yours?
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H, Nitto Rear Rack, Trunk Bag

[Jake Kutchins]

Dropping Clem price to $1300.

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:48:10 PM UTC-5 Jake Kutchins wrote:

> Nitto rack is sold, Clem and bag are still available.
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 11:48:03 AM UTC-8 Jake Kutchins wrote:
>
>> Dropping Clem price to $1375, nitto rack to $125, and arkel bag to $45 :)
>>
>> Jake
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:41:22 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You could change out the handlebars to Bosco bars...
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 9:12:32 AM UTC-8 jake...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Dave :) It's a great ride, I've just been wanting something that's 
 a bit more upright. Dropping the asking price to $1450 for anyone 
 interested.

 On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 12:33:22 PM UTC-5 Davey Two Shoes 
 wrote:

> I recognize this bike!
>
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42:51 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Selling my 52 cm dark green Clem H. In good condition but has some 
>> beausage (scratch on top tube, small chips around chainstay). I love 
>> this 
>> bike, but I'm hoping to sell it to help finance a Platy. Pickup in NYC 
>> preferred, but open to shipping. $1525.
>>
>> Highlights:
>> 650B x 55mm RH Umtanum Ridge Extralight tires (<150 miles)
>> Excellent condition black MKS king pedals and B17 carved Brooks saddle
>> 2x8 with friction shifting
>> Silver crankset
>> Can include VO constructeur rack, stock Kenda tires, single schwalbe 
>> g-one tire
>> note: the wald basket works great but is bent
>>
>> Nitto Campee Rear Rack--$150
>> Arkel TailRider Trunk Bag--$60
>> Both for $200
>>
>> Google drive link 
>> 
>>
>> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>>
>> --Jake in NYC
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Jay Riley]

"the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me back
to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly and
mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate loads
(35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than ol'
fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and
modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop
just fine w'cable brakes.

Jay

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On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, good to know.
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on new
>> bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the road but
>> not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your
>> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the
>>> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just
>>> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would
>>> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>>>
>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike
 around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, woot!).

>>>
 Philip
 Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Jay Riley]

PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  They're
cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as opposed to
braking loads on a road or touring bike.

Jay

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On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:

> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me back
> to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly and
> mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate loads
> (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than ol'
> fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and
> modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop
> just fine w'cable brakes.
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, good to know.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on
>>> new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the road
>>> but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your
>>> results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride.
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the
 Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just
 talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would
 be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.

 The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?

 On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson 
 wrote:

> ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike
> around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, woot!).
>

> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Jamie Kaplan]

Are Paul’s worth it?? Yes. But, maybe not. Depends. As Pam Murray reminded me, our bikes should be a source of joy and satisfaction. So if spending incrementally more dollars is a stresser, then maybe don’t go there. By contrast, we’ve all seen basic set ups on Riv’s site. We all know that they work splendidly. At the end of the day, our ‘curated’ bicycles are a balancing act between our personal choices and our constraints. We all have constraints. I own one ‘forever’ Clem L. Works for me b/c my range of riding needs is relatively narrow. I spent many pandemic months researching a bike of choice. The Riv Clem L checked all my boxes. I made sure I had the money set aside. I made certain to obtain spousal dispensation. Once I found it I pounced sight unseen. Yikes. I then had nine months from down payment to pick up to research and procure parts and components. I wanted to do it once and do it right. Today, I have zero regrets. Even my wife loves the bike and how it has expanded my universe. I love the look and ride of my Riv. For me it wasn’t my mid-life crisis European convertible, it’s was just…a bike. Enjoy the process and the outcome. Cause if we’re when we’re riding our Rivs life is inherently good. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 7, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Brian McDermott  wrote:I've had the Racers, Mini-Motos, and the touring cantis. The Racers worked well, but I prefer a canti or V brake. The Mini-Motos are fantastic and provide excellent power and modulation, and the added bonus of working with road levers without a problem. Now for the touring cantis, I bought a set used on ebay, but when installing them on my Sam, I noticed I was missing a pivot. So, I installed one pair on the front, and a pair of Tektro TR720s on the rear while I waited for a new pivot. I ran this setup for many months, and I've gotta say, the difference between the Pauls and the Tektros was minimal. Of course, the Pauls were on the front so that is a factor, but...pound for pound, I think as far as cantis go, the Pauls aren't really worth it; aside from looks and maybe slightly improved modulation, being MUSA is the biggest selling point. On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 11:01:17 PM UTC-5 rus...@gmail.com wrote:In my opinion, Paul brakes are definitely worth it, and they’re MUSA.I installed a pair of Mini Motos on my Surly Cross x Check with Campagnolo Ergo levers, which is the a great go most anywhere setup. The Mini Motos worked well enough with the Campy levers, but they worked perfectly with Travel Agents installed. I love how they function, with great modulation and no squeal. I’d recommend them to anyone wanting to use an Ergo system.Russell DuncanLeverett, MA USAOn Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:14:39 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:Eliot: I did use one of these long, long ago, and looks ideal, elegant (= both not-bulky-looking and minimum-means-to-desired-end).I see that one -- NIP -- sold for $8 with $5 shipping back in October. But I fear that the beefy threaded fender mount boss in the underside of the crown will interfere with this device; must take a look. And next, must learn if it's safe to drill holes in forward and rearward fore/aft crown walls; the fork was built for cantis and fenders, thus with no holes.On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 7:08 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:Patrick, can you use a Suntour power hanger ? I loved mine.On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 5:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:Thanks, good to know.On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the road but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. Joe Bernard On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson  wrote:... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, woot!). Philip Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?) 



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Re: [RBW] front derailleur on a Gus?

[John S]

Apologies if I haven't understood your question correctly, but if there is 
interference between the derailleur clamp and bottle cage, you could 
consider using these spacers to create extra clearance:
https://problemsolversbike.com/products/accessory-mounts/spaceouts_sets_-_13950

On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 4:34:04 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Pic of the FS in question.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 3, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Gathering parts for my Gus Build. I had this deore fd on my Clem. It 
> worked just fine but I changed it out to a nearly identical XTR for cheap. 
> So I can use the Deore on the Gus. My question; are there interference 
> issues on a Gus / Susie between a front derailleur and the seat tube water 
> bottle mounts? A quick measurement from the Clem suggests it may be close. 
> I will not know for sure until I have a crank in hand but trying to plan 
> ahead. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell-esq fat bike

[Zach Roeder]

I'm using a Shimano XTR M9125-1 with a Q of 174mm on my Rohloff Prospector 
(first generation). With short axle XTR SPD pedals, it feels like a 168mm q 
factor. I've tried several different cranks, and I think this is as narrow 
as you can go. And if you are a super strong rider, maybe there's the 
possibility of the crank hitting the chainstays?

Clearances are super tight everywhere with 26x4". I'm actually considering 
slightly wider q or smaller tires because I occasionally rub my legs on the 
tires on descents, and it hurts! I love how it pedals for long rides 
though. 
On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:33:19 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks Laing and Hoch. Once again, confirmed that fatbike Q is more than I 
> care for.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
>> For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks 
>> and custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is 
>> with about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely 
>> nowhere close to 160. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be 
>>> very glad to hear it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:33 PM Bob  wrote:
>>>
 Patrick,

 I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone 
 here have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take measurements?

 --
 Bob

 On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, Scapegoat, 
> Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed drivetrain (if 
> any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from Pugsleys etc because 
> of 
> the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no more than 160 I'd be 
> very interested for our local sandy trails. As it is, I've been thinking 
> of 
> a 29er+ replacement for my Monocog 29er on which the rear 71 mm WTB 
> ranger 
> rubs the stays in corners but fat would be even better if the Q could be 
> sorted. 
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] FS: Joe Appaloosa

[Matti]

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7574957506.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Eric Marth]

Paul brakes are worth it. 

If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them for close 
to what you paid!

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote:

> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn bike.  
> They're cool!  The braking assignment is short, severe braking loads, as 
> opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike.
>
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley  wrote:
>
>> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent me back 
>> to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes.  Especially if I'm in hilly and 
>> mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring with moderate loads 
>> (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way faster than ol' 
>> fashioned brake pads.  Hydraulic discs are super easy to squeeze and 
>> modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can still stop 
>> just fine w'cable brakes.  
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, good to know.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried (stock on 
 new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally greater on the 
 road 
 but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls. Your 
 results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. 

 Joe Bernard 

 On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how the 
> Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full hydraulics? I was just 
> talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the Kampers would 
> be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic complication.
>
> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right?
>
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson <
> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... I do have a set of NIB Klampers I considered building a bike 
>> around, but went with yet another canti-post bike (a Bruce Gordon, 
>> woot!). 
>>
>
>> Philip 
>> Sonoma County, Calif (did it really just stop raining?) 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell-esq fat bike

[Joe D.]

Thanks Zach! The Tumbleweed is definitely appealing, especially with a 29 x 
3 dirt tire and 26 x 4 in winter.

I wonder if 26 x 4 with reasonably big rims (64mm or full 80mm) would work 
with a modified cassette, like the setup Crust bikes talk about 
here: https://www.tumblr.com/crustbikes/159521355676/the-stubby-cassette. 
I'd be fine with only 5-7 gears. And I think a Q factor closer to 180-185 
would be ok. It sounds like it'd definitely be a no-go at your Q factor of 
174.

Thanks!



On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 10:23:35 AM UTC-7 Zach Roeder wrote:

> I'm using a Shimano XTR M9125-1 with a Q of 174mm on my Rohloff Prospector 
> (first generation). With short axle XTR SPD pedals, it feels like a 168mm q 
> factor. I've tried several different cranks, and I think this is as narrow 
> as you can go. And if you are a super strong rider, maybe there's the 
> possibility of the crank hitting the chainstays?
>
> Clearances are super tight everywhere with 26x4". I'm actually considering 
> slightly wider q or smaller tires because I occasionally rub my legs on the 
> tires on descents, and it hurts! I love how it pedals for long rides 
> though. 
> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:33:19 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks Laing and Hoch. Once again, confirmed that fatbike Q is more than 
>> I care for.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>>> For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks 
>>> and custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is 
>>> with about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely 
>>> nowhere close to 160. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be 
 very glad to hear it. Thanks.

 On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:33 PM Bob  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone 
> here have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take measurements?
>
> --
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>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, 
>> Scapegoat, Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed 
>> drivetrain (if any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from 
>> Pugsleys 
>> etc because of the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no more 
>> than 160 I'd be very interested for our local sandy trails. As it is, 
>> I've 
>> been thinking of a 29er+ replacement for my Monocog 29er on which the 
>> rear 
>> 71 mm WTB ranger rubs the stays in corners but fat would be even better 
>> if 
>> the Q could be sorted. 
>>
>> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

[alan lavine]

Andrew,
PM sent.
Thanks,
Alan

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> I bought the frameset new from Riv a month ago but after 50 miles of 
> riding I simply do not enjoy the way it rides compared to my other road 
> bike so I'm casting this one back out. It's got the FSA headset installed 
> with some pewter headset spacers from BlueLug, new Tektro 559 brake 
> callipers and a new Nitto S65 300mm seatpost. There's a few paint nicks I 
> gave it because I'm a sloppy mechanic and installing fenders was a 
> wrestling match, but nothing serious or all that visible.  
>
> I'm pretty bummed it didn't work out for me but I hope it finds a new 
> home! 
>
> Asking $1375 which will include shipping, DM if you want pics 
>
> Cheers, 
> Andrew
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[RBW] FS: Nitto racks, brooks saddle, swift bags and more oh my.

[Jason Zakaras]

A few great bits and bobs to clear out: all items priced net to me: 

https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/151340 


Nitto Mini Campee used sparingly for about 30 miles on a riv SimpleOne : 
$100.00 


Nitto Marks front area hub rack new never installed, decided on a different 
route: $200.00


brooks b17 : $75.00


swift industries jr ranger panniers, coyote - new, never used - $225.00


rons pec Dec new in bag - 50.00


white industries dos freewheel 20/22 - $150.00

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[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Drew, thanks for the complement on the photos. 
As to the basket light mount, I've had two of these for so many years, I 
cannot recall their origin. They were designed to mount to a frame or fork 
tube and I adapted them easily for the basket. They aren't as substantial 
as the current mounts made to attach at a frame fitting (like Paul & PDW, 
etc.). So, at first I wasn't sure if they would be trustworthy. They have 
proved to be fine and I'm sure I did not pay much at the time. Your search 
may prove to be more fruitful than mine.
I looked at the strap on the basket side and one says, "CRONOMETTI" the 
other, made to fit a different tube size, says, "ISSIMO," so your guess is 
as good as my own. It is very likely I got word of this from one of these 
forums.
Just out: PDW has a newly designed basket mount called the "Outpost Mount," 
made of metal (steel?) so a little on the heavy side but looks substantial 
enough to be able to survive the bike falling over without any damage to 
the light mount. 
I'm headed out for an overnighter on Wednesday and hope to try it out:
https://ridepdw.com/products/outpost-mount-light-mount-for-wire-baskets?_pos=1&_sid=4d2525153&_ss=r

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:50:30 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Paul,
>
> May I ask what you're using to attach lights to the side of your basket? I 
> made a "fake short handlebar" from an old broomstick and a long bolt to get 
> a light out in front of my fender, but it doesn't work with newer lights, 
> and I like your "tiny fake handlebar attached to the side of the basket" 
> better.
>
> Thanks, and great pics, by the way!
>
> Drew
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
>> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 2 
>> dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
>> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and 
>> bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but 
>> a few others are in the mix.
>> What's yours?
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTT: My new Oracle Ridge for your Barlow Pass or Steilacoom

[Dave C]

If someone wants to buy these from me, new except for a short ride, $160 
shipped for the pair to CONUS or $150 if you are local to San Diego area. 
best, Dave

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-8 Dave C wrote:

> I have a pair of new Oracle Ridges, mounted once and ridden around the 
> block. They were too big for the frame so I need to downsize. If you have a 
> pair of new Steilacoom or Barlow Pass, I would like to swap.
>
> Thanks, Dave in Carlsbad, CA
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[RBW] Bags like the Grabsack?

[Michael Ullmer]

Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for 
something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and 
open/close function.

Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my 
little Swift hipbag can accommodate.

Thanks all!
Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Bags like the Grabsack?

[Matthew Williams]

Acorn and Cyclecats are two of my favorites:

https://www.acornbags.com/

https://cyclecats.com/
 



> On Jan 9, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
> Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for something 
> like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and open/close 
> function.
> 
> Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my little 
> Swift hipbag can accommodate.
> 
> Thanks all!
> Mike in Minneapolis
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Re: [RBW] Bags like the Grabsack?

[Brian Turner]

Just so we can get an idea of what size is too small, which Swift hip pack do you have?On Jan 9, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Matthew Williams  wrote:Acorn and Cyclecats are two of my favorites:https://www.acornbags.com/https://cyclecats.com/ On Jan 9, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and open/close function.Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my little Swift hipbag can accommodate.Thanks all!Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

[Drew Saunders]

Paul,

That PDW mount looks so good, I just ordered one! Thanks!

I'll try to remember to take pics and share with the group.

Drew

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 12:38 PM 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Drew, thanks for the complement on the photos.
> As to the basket light mount, I've had two of these for so many years, I
> cannot recall their origin. They were designed to mount to a frame or fork
> tube and I adapted them easily for the basket. They aren't as substantial
> as the current mounts made to attach at a frame fitting (like Paul & PDW,
> etc.). So, at first I wasn't sure if they would be trustworthy. They have
> proved to be fine and I'm sure I did not pay much at the time. Your search
> may prove to be more fruitful than mine.
> I looked at the strap on the basket side and one says, "CRONOMETTI" the
> other, made to fit a different tube size, says, "ISSIMO," so your guess is
> as good as my own. It is very likely I got word of this from one of these
> forums.
> Just out: PDW has a newly designed basket mount called the "Outpost
> Mount," made of metal (steel?) so a little on the heavy side but looks
> substantial enough to be able to survive the bike falling over without any
> damage to the light mount.
> I'm headed out for an overnighter on Wednesday and hope to try it out:
>
> https://ridepdw.com/products/outpost-mount-light-mount-for-wire-baskets?_pos=1&_sid=4d2525153&_ss=r
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:50:30 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> May I ask what you're using to attach lights to the side of your basket?
>> I made a "fake short handlebar" from an old broomstick and a long bolt to
>> get a light out in front of my fender, but it doesn't work with newer
>> lights, and I like your "tiny fake handlebar attached to the side of the
>> basket" better.
>>
>> Thanks, and great pics, by the way!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
>>> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried,
>>> 2 dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
>>> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and
>>> bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but
>>> a few others are in the mix.
>>> What's yours?
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Richard Rose]

I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than pedal clearance.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! Joe Bernard On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at owning a beautiful ATB frameset.



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[RBW] Re: Bags like the Grabsack?

[Huston]

Mike,

I've always admired the bags from Tom Bihn .  
Never had one and not a bike specific maker; but, there are lots of options 
in the crossbody and shoulder bag section.

Huston
Lexington, KY

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 5:12:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
> Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for 
> something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and 
> open/close function.
>
> Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my 
> little Swift hipbag can accommodate.
>
> Thanks all!
> Mike in Minneapolis
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell-esq fat bike

[J G]

You guys have it right for ball parking limits based on something in the 
26x~4" range based on my experience.

As stated before, my custom Clockwork Dirt Fat 1x (SqT White Industries 
Road Cranks w/76bcd spider & 1x ring) with narrow Deda stays has a Q of 
~180mm and looking at the space needed for tire, space, stays (modern yokes 
giving a little more here when used), space and arms, 170mm was what I was 
thinking for theoretical minimum with a SS or Rohloff.  Sounds like Zach is 
confirming 168mm really pushes that limit.

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:32:32 AM UTC-6 Joe D. wrote:

> Thanks Zach! The Tumbleweed is definitely appealing, especially with a 29 
> x 3 dirt tire and 26 x 4 in winter.
>
> I wonder if 26 x 4 with reasonably big rims (64mm or full 80mm) would work 
> with a modified cassette, like the setup Crust bikes talk about here: 
> https://www.tumblr.com/crustbikes/159521355676/the-stubby-cassette. I'd 
> be fine with only 5-7 gears. And I think a Q factor closer to 180-185 would 
> be ok. It sounds like it'd definitely be a no-go at your Q factor of 174.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 10:23:35 AM UTC-7 Zach Roeder wrote:
>
>> I'm using a Shimano XTR M9125-1 with a Q of 174mm on my Rohloff 
>> Prospector (first generation). With short axle XTR SPD pedals, it feels 
>> like a 168mm q factor. I've tried several different cranks, and I think 
>> this is as narrow as you can go. And if you are a super strong rider, maybe 
>> there's the possibility of the crank hitting the chainstays?
>>
>> Clearances are super tight everywhere with 26x4". I'm actually 
>> considering slightly wider q or smaller tires because I occasionally rub my 
>> legs on the tires on descents, and it hurts! I love how it pedals for long 
>> rides though. 
>> On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:33:19 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Laing and Hoch. Once again, confirmed that fatbike Q is more than 
>>> I care for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>>
 For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks 
 and custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is 
 with about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely 
 nowhere close to 160. 

 On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be 
> very glad to hear it. Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:33 PM Bob  wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone 
>> here have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take 
>> measurements?
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, 
>>> Scapegoat, Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed 
>>> drivetrain (if any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from 
>>> Pugsleys 
>>> etc because of the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no 
>>> more 
>>> than 160 I'd be very interested for our local sandy trails. As it is, 
>>> I've 
>>> been thinking of a 29er+ replacement for my Monocog 29er on which the 
>>> rear 
>>> 71 mm WTB ranger rubs the stays in corners but fat would be even better 
>>> if 
>>> the Q could be sorted. 
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Deore Silver/Black Model 591 Rear Derailleur SOLD

[Rob Collard]

Shimano Deore Silver/Black Model 591 Rear Derailleur is SOLD.  Thank you.

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 5:46:05 PM UTC-5 Rob Collard wrote:

> For Sale: Shimano Shimano Deore Silver/Black Model 591 Rear Derailleur
>
> This rear derailleur was from my 2020 Rivendell Roadini 9 speed build. 
> Long cage. 2800 road miles. Fantastic shifting. 
>
> Asking $30.
>
> Rob Collard
> Buffalo, NY
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[RBW] Re: FS: 700x38 rust color Fairweather for traveler tires

[Andrew Turner]

All are sold! Thanks all. 

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 4:48:34 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Bump on these. I'll sell the new pair of tires for $75 for the pair 
> shipped. 
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 9:23:32 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Update:
>> Used ones are spoken for. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:25:08 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a link 
>>>  to 
>>> the item for sale. 
>>>
>>> I picked up 4 of these from BlueLug because the price was so darn good 
>>> but I'm moving in a different direction. 2 of them are unopened, brand new, 
>>> the other 2 have 15 miles on them. 
>>>
>>> New ones: $45 each free shipping 
>>> Used ones: $35 each free shipping  
>>>
>>> Cheers! 
>>>
>>> Andrew T
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS - Nitto Stems & Bars, Paul Levers, RuthWorks Bag, Sugino Crank, Shimano 8 Speed Cassette, Suntour FD, Sella San Marco Saddle

[Huston]

Greetings,

For your consideration are some components and accessories. I believe that 
almost all of these items have been on a Riv, and quite a few of them were 
purchased directly from Riv.  With that disclaimer, here’s the list:

1. Nitto Technomic Deluxe (NTC-DX-190) stem.  10cm in length with 26.0mm 
clamp.  This is my favorite Nitto stem with a quill length between the 
Pearl (150mm) and the Tallux (225mm).  Used with light insertion marks.  
There is some light corrosion on the bolt heads that was difficult to 
capture in the pictures.  $50 shipped.

2. Nitto Pearl stem.  10cm in length with 26.0mm clamp.  Light insertion 
marks but super clean.  $60 shipped.

3. Ruthworks Audax saddlebag in waxed canvas.  Approximate dimensions are 
10" by 6" by 6" with about a 6L volume (excluding side pockets).  You can 
see the outlines of a few patches that I previously had sewn onto the bag.  
Otherwise, like new.  $150 plus shipping.

4. Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur.  Clamp-on (26.8mm).  Vintage but 
very clean.  $50 shipped.

5. Shimano CS-M737 cassette. 8 speed with 11-30 range.  This is the "I" 
version, which I believe coincides with a stiffer spider.  Low mileage.  
$40 shipped.

6. Sugino XD2-701D double crankset.  170mm arms with 50/34 tooth rings.  50 
tooth ring is ramped and pinned.  Compatible with Shimano 9/10 speed.  
Excellent, almost new condition.  $115 shipped.

7. Shimano UN55 bottom bracket. 68 x 107mm.  Excellent.  Just a few hundred 
miles.  The bottom bracket that you want that is no longer in production.  
$25 shipped.

8. Paul cross levers.  Pair (left and right).  Silver with the now 
discontinued 26.0mm clamp diameter.  Open box.  Levers have been handled 
but are otherwise new.  $110 shipped.

9. Selle San Marco Rolls Saddle - Titanium Le Classiche.  This is a new, 
modern saddle (looks like a 2021 date stamp).  Saddle has been installed 
but not ridden; so, it remains in "like new" condition. $110 shipped.

10. Nitto Noodle handlebars.  420mm width with 26.0mm stem clamp diameter.  
Excellent condition.  $40 plus shipping.

Will ship to CONUS only via my pick of USPS or UPS.  Pictures are available 
here 
.
  
Please send a PM if you are interested.  I will update the list as items 
sell.

Thanks for your interest.
Huston
Lexington, KY

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno planning? Phil hubset for sale

[Bill Lindsay]

The deafening silence assures me that nobody is planning a fixed/fixed 
Roaduno who has champagne tastes and a beer budget.  So these hubs will go 
back into "inventory"

BL in EC

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:07:18 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Short version:  I'm selling a used Phil Wood Track hubset:
>
> Rear High-Flange fixed/fixed track hub 120mm, 32h, with two Phil lock 
> rings: $155 plus shipping
> Front High-Flange track hub, 32h, new axle and bearings: $110 plus shipping
> Both for $260 shipped
>
> Long version:
> You're waiting for the Roaduno?  So am I!  As I wait, I managed to get a 
> Quickbeam on a trade that worked out.  That Quickbeam came with a Phil Wood 
> track hubset, and mismatched rims.  Each wheel had major issues.  The rear 
> hub was/is sensational but the rear rim was toast.  The front rim was 
> great, but the front hub had a stripped out axle and crunchy bearings.  I 
> built a different wheelset for the Quickbeam and set these wheels aside.  I 
> love the current wheelset and so I parted these out.  Rear rim 
> -->recycled.  I bought brand new axle and bearings from Phil and set up the 
> front to as-new mechanical condition.  Selling a $220 hub for $110 when I 
> just bought $70 of parts for it may not be my best financial move, but here 
> we are...
>
> Photos:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52613142232
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52613650936
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52614077420
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52613650936
>
> Let me know if you want to roll classy and smooth. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] FS: Parts bin cleanout: Selle Anatomica, cassettes, tires, stems, shifters, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

Time to clean it out some. Below's a list of some stuff for sale. All 
prices include the cost of shipping. You can see pics here.  
 


   - 9-speed XT cassette 11-34, unused: $65
   - 9 speed cassette(s) unused 11-30 & 11-32: $40 each 
   - Selle Anatomica saddle X2 used: $100
   - 80mm 31.8 threadless stem(s) 17° & 7°: $30 each
   - Dura-Ace 9-speed downtube shifters unused: $100
   - Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass extralight tanwall tires (pair), unknown 
   mileage but never set up tubeless with all the tread still visible so lots 
   of life left: $100
   - Ritchey 110bcd crankset w/ smooth Octalink BB 50/34 175 crank length: 
   $60 


That's it for now 
- Andrew

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[RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

[Andrew Turner]

Pictures can be found in my FS album here.  
 
The only places where there's paint damage are the dropouts and below the 
fork crown, so nothing all that visible. This is the 2022 model that fits 
up to a 45mm tire.

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-6 alan lavine wrote:

> Andrew,
> PM sent.
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I bought the frameset new from Riv a month ago but after 50 miles of 
>> riding I simply do not enjoy the way it rides compared to my other road 
>> bike so I'm casting this one back out. It's got the FSA headset installed 
>> with some pewter headset spacers from BlueLug, new Tektro 559 brake 
>> callipers and a new Nitto S65 300mm seatpost. There's a few paint nicks I 
>> gave it because I'm a sloppy mechanic and installing fenders was a 
>> wrestling match, but nothing serious or all that visible.  
>>
>> I'm pretty bummed it didn't work out for me but I hope it finds a new 
>> home! 
>>
>> Asking $1375 which will include shipping, DM if you want pics 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Andrew
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: new Brooks B17 Special **Olive Green**

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Sold

On Saturday, 7 January 2023 at 11:02:30 UTC-6 maxcr wrote:

> I have one of these olive saddles and it's an absolute beauty.
> Max
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:40:16 AM UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Saddle was mounted to seatpost once and removed.
>> Unique, discontinued olive green color with copper rivets.
>> Looks almost black in shade, turns olive in sunlight.
>> Never ridden, perfect condition - asking $200
>> Please send PM with interest, thanks!
>>
>> Jeff
>> (Alabama)
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Parts bin cleanout: Selle Anatomica, cassettes, tires, stems, shifters, etc.

[Robert Warner]

Hi Andrew. I’m interested in the crank set & BB. Please contact me off list
Thanks!  Bob

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 9, 2023, at 7:28 PM, Andrew Turner  wrote:

Time to clean it out some. Below's a list of some stuff for sale. All prices 
include the cost of shipping. You can see pics here. 



  *   9-speed XT cassette 11-34, unused: $65
  *   9 speed cassette(s) unused 11-30 & 11-32: $40 each
  *   Selle Anatomica saddle X2 used: $100
  *   80mm 31.8 threadless stem(s) 17° & 7°: $30 each
  *   Dura-Ace 9-speed downtube shifters unused: $100
  *   Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass extralight tanwall tires (pair), unknown 
mileage but never set up tubeless with all the tread still visible so lots of 
life left: $100
  *   Ritchey 110bcd crankset w/ smooth Octalink BB 50/34 175 crank length: $60

That's it for now
- Andrew

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[RBW] Re: Bags like the Grabsack?

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Michael, ditto on the Acorn Basket Bag. While I use a Swift Sugarloaf 
myself, I have a buddy who has an Acorn basket bag and loves it. (Somewhat 
smaller than my Sugarloaf, I think.) 
I am a long-time fan of Acorn and their business model - American cottage 
industry and pure perfection on their workmanship. I have had a dozen over 
the years. Nine in rotation currently, since I move some larger bags to 
storage for summer, when I will bring out smaller bags. All but my mountain 
bikes typically carry a front and a back bag.
BTW, I think they are currently phasing out their X-Pac material bags in 
favor of their original waxed cotton. What's left of the X-Pac bags went on 
sale and are priced to sell, including the basket bag. If you want one 
better jump on it.
While many good bag makers have surfaced since they began production, these 
bags are a bargain, considering the quality. If memory serves me, back then 
only Carradice could match - and that company lacked models like front 
bags, since I suppose the English are hardheaded about their saddlebags, 
ha. (I have owned many of those myself.)
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 5:12:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Hi all, wondering if anyone has any recommendations for bags like the Riv 
> Grabsack from small-ish makers (i.e. not Timbuk2)? I'm looking for 
> something like the Grabsack in size/function but with a better strap and 
> open/close function.
>
> Now with winter here, I need more space for gloves, hat, etc. than my 
> little Swift hipbag can accommodate.
>
> Thanks all!
> Mike in Minneapolis
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

[Dan Leahul]

Care to indulge further as to why the Roadini didn't work out for you? I'm
looking for one in this size, but I've never ridden one. I'm looking to
replace my aggressive fat tire road bike with something a little more chill
(and easier on the back), plus it's become mostly redundant with my
aggressive fat tire gravel bike.

Thanks,

Dan

On Mon., Jan. 9, 2023, 5:46 p.m. Andrew Turner, 
wrote:

> Pictures can be found in my FS album here.
> 
> The only places where there's paint damage are the dropouts and below the
> fork crown, so nothing all that visible. This is the 2022 model that fits
> up to a 45mm tire.
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-6 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>> PM sent.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought the frameset new from Riv a month ago but after 50 miles of
>>> riding I simply do not enjoy the way it rides compared to my other road
>>> bike so I'm casting this one back out. It's got the FSA headset installed
>>> with some pewter headset spacers from BlueLug, new Tektro 559 brake
>>> callipers and a new Nitto S65 300mm seatpost. There's a few paint nicks I
>>> gave it because I'm a sloppy mechanic and installing fenders was a
>>> wrestling match, but nothing serious or all that visible.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty bummed it didn't work out for me but I hope it finds a new
>>> home!
>>>
>>> Asking $1375 which will include shipping, DM if you want pics
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrew
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Richard Rose]

Joe - pm’ed you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 9:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:You found a great bike! I'm the resident short cranks whisperer around here, here's the Sugino XD600 152mm on my custom. I had same on a Susie for a short time but it never saw dirt so I can't vouch for clearance, but it's definitely going to be a lot and definitely worked on that bike for general riding.  I think most people ride longer cranks than they need cuz that's what bikes come with so that's what they ride. Is 170 or 175 good if you're really tall or grinding a big single gear up a steep hill? Surely. But I'm 5'-6" and kinda old and creaky and my back and hips don't need all that range of motion on a bike ride..I ride shorties! Joe BernardOn Monday, January 9, 2023 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than pedal clearance.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! Joe Bernard On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at owning a beautiful ATB frameset.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[iamkeith]

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of 
> Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm 
> cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been 
> researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits 
> other than pedal clearance.
>
>
Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the 
first time and assuming you'll want more clearance?  (Based perhaps on 
experience with other rivendell models.)  My single conplaint about my 
Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high.  Its not at all like my Clem 
or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all 
much lower..  I've probably  learned to adjust my pedaling technique from 
previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do 
with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with 
normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175)

On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go.  Grant orginally said that 
it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't suggest 
that the models would just "disappear."  Seems a shame to throw in the 
towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just tigged.  
That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve -  will be 
built, right?  With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its original 
mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, this just 
feels like a slot that needs filled to me.
 

> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 
> more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another 
> run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm 
> going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! 
>
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over 
>> fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s 
>> sorta between the Susie & Gus. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that 
>>> the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just 
>>> arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at 
>>> owning a beautiful ATB frameset.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Joe Bernard]

The original plan was there would be two price points for both models, 
fillet and TIG. Then the TIGs didn't happen and the fillets got pricier and 
I think they lost interest in the whole thing. My guess is Grant/Riv got 
tired of fighting the "those fat tires are hard to use with v-brakes" 
argument and moved on, but this is complete speculation on my part. I know 
nothing! 

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:01:30 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:

> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of 
>> Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm 
>> cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been 
>> researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits 
>> other than pedal clearance.
>>
>>
> Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the 
> first time and assuming you'll want more clearance?  (Based perhaps on 
> experience with other rivendell models.)  My single conplaint about my 
> Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high.  Its not at all like my Clem 
> or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all 
> much lower..  I've probably  learned to adjust my pedaling technique from 
> previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do 
> with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with 
> normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175)
>
> On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go.  Grant orginally said 
> that it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't 
> suggest that the models would just "disappear."  Seems a shame to throw in 
> the towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just 
> tigged.  That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve -  
> will be built, right?  With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its 
> original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, 
> this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me.
>  
>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 
>> more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another 
>> run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm 
>> going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! 
>>
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over 
>>> fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s 
>>> sorta between the Susie & Gus. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>
 If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that 
 the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just 
 arrived, will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at 
 owning a beautiful ATB frameset.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 22 for 2022

[Jingy]

That's a Cronometro mount that was originally designed to mount computers 
on aerobars.

Jim in Mpls

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:55:15 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Drew, sorry, I meant to attach this closeup image of the plastic mount I 
> have now.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:50:30 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> May I ask what you're using to attach lights to the side of your basket? 
>> I made a "fake short handlebar" from an old broomstick and a long bolt to 
>> get a light out in front of my fender, but it doesn't work with newer 
>> lights, and I like your "tiny fake handlebar attached to the side of the 
>> basket" better.
>>
>> Thanks, and great pics, by the way!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 2:35:07 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> *(I've posted this on the i-BOB list too, so forgive me):*
>>> My favorite 22 bike related images for 2022. (Oops, as hard as I tried, 
>>> 2 dozen was as close as I could get, so I cheated):
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720305087997
>>> The hardest part was to keep it fairly strictly bike related and 
>>> bike-trip related. Both of my Rivendells are a major part of the album, but 
>>> a few others are in the mix.
>>> What's yours?
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>

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