Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Luke Hendrickson]

The Captain Hook net from Riv is very nice, too. +3 for Voilé straps!

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 10:05:51 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I use Rok Straps a lot on my cargo bike to secure loads. They stretch 
> nicely and cinch down securely. I’ve never had one slip. They come in a 
> variety of sizes and are relatively cheap. You can get them with reflective 
> thread which is nice at night.
>
> I believe they were developed for motorcycle use so perfect on a bicycle 
> as well.
>
> [image: 
> 61eyLz1m9EL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFIVE,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA1%2C263,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
>
> ROK Straps ROK-10358 Black/Reflective 12" - 42" Pack Adjustable Stretch 
> Strap 
> 
> amazon.com 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
>
>
> I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
> securing cargo.
>
> Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?
>
> I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 
>
> Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, I 
> would love to hear your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
> K.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikers - do you stand and pedal?

[brendonoid]

Previous folks have covered most of it here but I'll add my personal 
experience:
I had previously used Bosco Bars and never really gelled with them so I put 
the Nitto Bullbar with a very short stem on my Susie as I was worried about 
swept back bars making trail riding and climbing too awkward. However, with 
the high stack and long stays I find myself just spinning up hills seated 
anyway.
When I had Bosco bars (not on a hillibike) I used the front area for out of 
saddle climbing but it wasn't ideal by any stretch.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikers - do you stand and pedal?

[Jason Fuller]

My sense with Rivs is that Grant builds bikes for how he likes to ride, and 
on his local terrain. That sounds selfish and limited in a sense, but I 
think it's what makes the bikes so great too - they're not trying to find 
some balance for all sorts of different scenarios, so they're afforded the 
freedom to really live up to their potential. 

While I've never ridden with Grant, he doesn't strike me as the 
stand-and-mash type :)   

Those long stays with a spinny gear are a joy to climb with, even with the 
relatively slack STA, but like you say, it kind of goes against our 
reflexes coming from things like fixed gear bikes and the like.  I rode 
Loscos for a bit and they were a lot more ergonomic to hold further forward 
when climbing out of saddle vs a Bosco, while still giving the same 
cruising position (with more stem height). Good bars but I am long torso'd 
so they didn't work for me. Sorry to say I don't have them anymore - but 
you should try this Billie on my wall ;) 

On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:40:15 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I think your question was clear! My custom with Boscos feels great for 
> sitting and spinning up a hill, if I get to a place where I need to stand I 
> prefer getting off and walking for a minute. There's one route to the 
> market and back here where I always walk one steep part and it's become my 
> walk-and-ride, I enjoy it! 
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 9:51:01 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> I guess I should have made a disclaimer I am not looking for tips on fit 
>> or technique. As Patrick mentioned I am just actually generally interested 
>> in your physical adaptation of physical technique with evolving bicycle 
>> geometry. 
>>
>> I love the clementine. It's the best climbing bike ive owned, and the 
>> fore - aft gives a lot of position variety. I am not going to gain any 
>> KOM's but I love the stability and traction for steep and loose climbing vs 
>> normal geometry. 
>>
>> with my sized up clem jr i do find more ability to stand, but dont feel 
>> strongly it's necessarily better for climbing, but its kind of comparing 
>> oranges and grapefruits. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 2:48:46 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mackenzy — I find it uncomfortable to pedal out of the saddle for 
>>> more than a few strokes with my hands in the primary grip position on swept 
>>> back bars. With a grip in the 'hooks' of the bars on Albatross, Billie or 
>>> Ron's Ortho bars it's no problem for me. I've installed Boscos on a bike I 
>>> built up for a friend and found that the secondary or hooks position ahead 
>>> of the levers was not very good for climbing or spirited riding. 
>>>
>>> I would think given the height of your bars, the tilt of your bars 
>>> making the grip almost parallel with the ground and the general shape of 
>>> Boscos that climbing out of the saddle would be uncomfortable and a little 
>>> unnatural. 
>>>
>>> I see you have your stem pretty low, do you wish for lower bars? If so 
>>> you might consider the Losco or the Billie, they're both plenty wide with 
>>> lots of sweep back but much less rise. 
>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:08:56 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 Hey Damon - It's a Nitto UI-12 quill stem. This is a welded cromo, -19 
 deg, 31.8 clamp, removeable faceplate stem. Not quite as nice and 
 definitely not as tall as the brazed Nitto faceplate stems (CR60-3F) that 
 Riv stocks, but my fit didn't need the extra height and I liked the look 
 and reach of a horizontal stem extension.

 I've attached a closeup photo of the stem and bars (taken during the 
 build, before the shifters were cabled). Note the stem height is just 
 about 
 max'd where I have it and many will want something with more rise.

 -Dave

 On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> I have not felt comfortable standing on the pedals in many years. I 
> sit and spin regardless of the type of bike. On a single speed, I will 
> dismount and walk when the slope is too steep - not often the case in 
> Florida.
>
> I seem to remember a top cyclist from years ago advocating for sitting 
> and spinning, but I cannot remember who it was.
>
> Laing
>


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[RBW] Re: cycling attire for cold rain

[Jason Fuller]

That's interesting, I might give some a shot this spring. I get the feeling 
that much colder than low 40's would be too cold for most Neoprene options 
but I don't really know. Usually when it's 45+F I am pretty happy with wool 
and a shell that's at least waterproof enough to keep the majority of water 
out - not much ends up being truly waterproof in those conditions.  I can 
certainly believe that the water-going folks are onto something though. 

On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 07:39:34 UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Folks on this board might already have this information, but it was a 
> revelation to me.
>
> It was 48 and heavily raining on, Tuesday I think, riding from Goleta to 
> Oxnard, CA. We (my son and I) were uncomfortably cold, with many miles to 
> go.
>
> We came upon a surfing shop. I know nothing about surfing or scuba, but I 
> bought the socks, gloves, and a hat that surfers wear with their wetsuits. 
> Wow, what a game changer. We were instantly comfortable. For heavy rain in 
> cold weather, neoprene is great for cycling. 
>

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[RBW] FS: Possum merino socks, XL, raspberry

[Jay P]

Bought these and wore them for 10 minutes on the sofa before realizing they 
are very warm and make my feet way too hot.

https://www.rivbike.com/products/copy-of-possum-merino-brim-beanie  (URL 
says beanie but goes to socks)

Selling just to find them a home (that's not goodwill) -- they're great 
socks but .  very very soft and warm and slightly fluffy

$20 shipped to you (rather than $25 now + tax + shipping) (may take a few 
days)

If interested please DM -

Jay P
Marin, CA


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[RBW] FS 700c H PLUS SON ARCHETYPE Wheelset (x-posted ibob)

[Rich Powers]

Price bump down to $250 plus shipping via PirateShip! (guessing $50 or less)

700c H PLUS SON ARCHETYPE -rim brake-Wheelset polished silver 36 hole,
10/11 speed Shimano 105 hubs, black. Silver DT 14 gauge spokes, black brass
nipples. Rims are 23 mm wide by 25 mm high, Velox rim tape. Straight, true,
clean, low miles. Some minor scratches/marks on the outer rim from a flat
tire? Not visible when the tire is mounted/inflated. Pictures are at the
link below.
 https://goo.gl/photos/7FKym17mpqFnDNFA7


-Rich in DSM

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Carl]

Thanks Gary, I can participate at least part of that weekend.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tun

Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Eric Marth]

Today's the day, Ted. My March 19 ride was my last of winter! 

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:01:37 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

>
> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Clear, sunny, temps didn't crack 40º and there were some treacherous 
> headwinds along the way. 
>
>
> That sounds familiar.  :-(
>
> Ok, time to start a Spring Ride Fotos 2023 thread!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Brian Turner]

The John’s straps are just ok in my opinion. Fine for short trips where you don’t really need it to be super secure. I always feel like I can never get them tight enough.2nd on Voile straps. I never have to worry if I have them tight enough… they just hold and grip and perform perfectly. If you really want length > 25”, go for the Voile cargo strap, which has hooks on each end and adjusts with a buckle in the middle.On Mar 20, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Andrew Letton  wrote:
I'd highly recommend Voile straps or similar knock-off ("Grunt" here in Australia) urethane straps. Their combination of stretch and grip are, in my experience, just right for securing loads on a bouncing, vibrating bike.cheers,Andrew in Sydney





On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 09:38:47 AM GMT+11, Keith P.  wrote:



Hey gang,I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and securing cargo.Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, I would love to hear your thoughts.Thanks!K.



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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Andrew Letton]

 I'd highly recommend Voile straps or similar knock-off ("Grunt" here in 
Australia) urethane straps. Their combination of stretch and grip are, in my 
experience, just right for securing loads on a bouncing, vibrating 
bike.cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 09:38:47 AM GMT+11, Keith P. 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey gang,
I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
securing cargo.
Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?
I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 
Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, I would 
love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!K.

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[RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

Hey gang,

I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
securing cargo.

Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?

I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 

Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, I 
would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!
K.

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[RBW] Re: Classic Italian Bicycles: now flat poster !

[Kim Hetzel]

Matt,

I do not know of any Italian made Rivendells. This is for those are 
interested in Italian made bicycles, aside from interests in Rivendell 
bicycles.

Kim.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 2:01:22 PM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:

> For those Italian made Rivendells?
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I thought I would share this with the group:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://corsaclassic.com/en-us/products/classic-italian-bicycles-poster
>>
>> *Thanks to popular demand we now offer the option to have the Italian 
>> poster delivered rolled for optimal display!*
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  
>>
>> *Classic Italian Bicycles "Signature Edition"* 
>> 
>>
>>
>> *Introducing the new flat version signature edition of the classic 
>> Italian Bicycles map! Multi-buy discount applied.* Made with care, each 
>> map is signed by the author on *200g paper*. Measures *70x50cm*, this 
>> collector's item can be proudly displayed as a stunning wall poster.
>>
>> Your map will be *shipped via priority mail in a carton tube*, ensuring 
>> that it arrives safely. Elevate your love for Italian cycling with this 
>> limited and numbered edition map, a must-have for any true cycling 
>> aficionado.
>>
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>>
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>> ­ 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Ted Durant]

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:35 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Clear, sunny, temps didn't crack 40º and there were some treacherous 
> headwinds along the way. 
> 


That sounds familiar.  :-(

Ok, time to start a Spring Ride Fotos 2023 thread!

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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[RBW] Re: Classic Italian Bicycles: now flat poster !

[Matt Beecher]

For those Italian made Rivendells?

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

>I thought I would share this with the group:
>
>
>
> https://corsaclassic.com/en-us/products/classic-italian-bicycles-poster
>
> *Thanks to popular demand we now offer the option to have the Italian 
> poster delivered rolled for optimal display!*
>
>
>
> 
>  
>
> *Classic Italian Bicycles "Signature Edition"* 
> 
>
>
> *Introducing the new flat version signature edition of the classic Italian 
> Bicycles map! Multi-buy discount applied.* Made with care, each map is 
> signed by the author on *200g paper*. Measures *70x50cm*, this 
> collector's item can be proudly displayed as a stunning wall poster.
>
> Your map will be *shipped via priority mail in a carton tube*, ensuring 
> that it arrives safely. Elevate your love for Italian cycling with this 
> limited and numbered edition map, a must-have for any true cycling 
> aficionado.
>
>
> Kim Hetzel
>
> Yelm, WA. 
>
>
> ­ 

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[RBW] FS: Workcycles Pastor Fiets Dutch bike 61cm - Unique stateside

[a spen]

After many-many years of longing to try out a Dutch bike after reading 
Grant's high praise of the same, I finally landed one, knowing it would 
likely  be too small for me, and sure enough, it's just not a good fit for 
these too long and lanky frame and legs.  It is more suitable for someone 
in the 5-10 to 6-4 range.

The Good: 
--It's an utter joy to ride, unlike anything else I've ridden here 
stateside. Helped me to appreciate what something like 60% of Dutch 
commuters experience daily
--Has the optional front and rear racks, capable to hauling half-a-house 
worth o' stuff
--Completely weather proof/bomb proof over built bike.  With the mudguards, 
internal hub, drum brakes, protected chain it requires only yearly 
maintenance.
--The upright seating position on the super comfy saddle is a revelation in 
how comfortable a diamond frame bike can be.  

The Not as Good:
--Holland is flat and so a heavy, well built bike suits the Dutch just 
fine.  Hills can be tough and a rider should be open to dismounting and 
pushing from time to time.  Have thoughts of carrying it up stairs to your 
third floor apartment?  You might reconsider, this guy is a tank.
--It's slow and has a narrow range suitable for flat commutes and errands.

I travel frequently between DC and Atlanta so delivery may be possible.

Please ping off list me if you'd like more info/pics, etc.

Al in VA

Link to pics and more information:  
https://blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-workcycles-pastor-fiets/7601361033.html

Link to Workcycles page for specs:
https://workcycles.com/product/workcycles-cross-frame-pastoorfiets/

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[RBW] Classic Italian Bicycles: now flat poster !

[Kim Hetzel]

   I thought I would share this with the group:


   
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*Thanks to popular demand we now offer the option to have the Italian 
poster delivered rolled for optimal display!*



 

*Classic Italian Bicycles "Signature Edition"* 



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that it arrives safely. Elevate your love for Italian cycling with this 
limited and numbered edition map, a must-have for any true cycling 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[River Bailey]

I think those May dates work for me.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
> y

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Drew Saunders]

Good idea! I found the street address of my nearest post office and changed 
my answer to that. It's close enough, and if any bike thieves go there, 
they'll be very, very, confused.

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:05:08 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> This is great.  Thanks for putting it together! 
>  I have couple of suggestions, more for the participant pi-droppers than 
> for John:
>
> 1)  Please be cautious and think twice about listing your actual home 
> address.  Especially if you live somewhere like Denver or Oakland, where 
> bike theft is a major industry.  Thieves could use this info to stake-out 
> and target your place.
>
> 2)  it would be great to list the model(s) and size(s) of bikes you own.  
> So many times I wish I could have test-ridden something, but didn't know 
> how to find an example nearby.  This could really help.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 5:33:44 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> The map is growing nicely! Got riders in Oceania and Europe on the map! 
>> Still awaiting the first rider in Sri Lanka to pop up.
>>
>> If you've added yourself, to the map please note that you can edit your 
>> responses in case you...I don't know...get a new bike? Change your riding 
>> style? Misspelled your name? Move from Arizona to Babylonia? 
>>
>> To do this, simply click on the 'Riv Rider Registration' and you can 
>> choose to 'Edit your response.' 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:59:58 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
>>> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that 
>>> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>>>
>>> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
>>> other, connect and plan rides.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to the site:
>>>
>>> Map of Rivendell Riders 
>>> 
>>>
>>> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
>>> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>>>
>>> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>>>
>>> 1. Provide your address
>>>
>>> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>>>
>>> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>>>
>>> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait 
>>> for your pin to show up. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
>>> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[John Rinker]

Good suggestions Keith. The map doesn't really need a specific address to 
work, just someplace nearby. Also, your suggestion about models and sizes 
has been added to the form. 

Answers can be edited on the form should people choose to add this info (or 
delete specific street addresses).

Cheers, John

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 7:01:24 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:05:08 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
> This is great.  Thanks for putting it together! 
>  I have couple of suggestions, more for the participant pi-droppers than 
> for John:
>
> 1)  Please be cautious and think twice about listing your actual home 
> address.  Especially if you live somewhere like Denver or Oakland, where 
> bike theft is a major industry.  Thieves could use this info to stake-out 
> and target your place.
>
> 2)  it would be great to list the model(s) and size(s) of bikes you own.  
> So many times I wish I could have test-ridden something, but didn't know 
> how to find an example nearby.  This could really help.
>
> Well, to play devil's advocate a bit, your address is public information 
> pretty easily discovered on the web, and listing details of your bikes 
> might make it more attractive to a bike thief knowing what they will find.
>
> That said, I plugged in approximate coordinates for mine, and I listed my 
> bikes, though not the sizes. That's a good suggestion. I don't think 
> potential thieves care much about the size - it's not like they're looking 
> for bikes to ride themselves!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
Gary

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
> first weekend of June.
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
>>> this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
>>> would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
>>> link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
>>> dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
>>> week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
>>> from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
>>> the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose 
 St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads 
 above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my 
 go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
 ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
 riding. 

 On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could 
> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>
>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>
>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
>>> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
>>> date 
>>> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
>>> the 
>>> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
>>> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
>>> to 
>>> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
 Warning: Long Post.

 I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
 would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
 Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
 (from 
 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
 annual 
 visitors. 

 The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
 overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
 were 
 old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   

 If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
 riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
 Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
 be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
 Pisgah 
 National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
 to 
 Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
 your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC 
 Arboretum 
 for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport 
 up to 
 4 bikes and three passengers. 

 As already menti

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Ted Durant]

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:05:08 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

This is great.  Thanks for putting it together! 
 I have couple of suggestions, more for the participant pi-droppers than 
for John:

1)  Please be cautious and think twice about listing your actual home 
address.  Especially if you live somewhere like Denver or Oakland, where 
bike theft is a major industry.  Thieves could use this info to stake-out 
and target your place.

2)  it would be great to list the model(s) and size(s) of bikes you own.  
So many times I wish I could have test-ridden something, but didn't know 
how to find an example nearby.  This could really help.

Well, to play devil's advocate a bit, your address is public information 
pretty easily discovered on the web, and listing details of your bikes 
might make it more attractive to a bike thief knowing what they will find.

That said, I plugged in approximate coordinates for mine, and I listed my 
bikes, though not the sizes. That's a good suggestion. I don't think 
potential thieves care much about the size - it's not like they're looking 
for bikes to ride themselves!

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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