Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[DTL]

Oh it's a hook system, yeah I have run into that on a ferry, and did use a 
strap because the rear wheel did't come off the ground when the front had 
been hooked (and this bikes 'dimensions' was 29 x 2.3wheels, 450mm CS, 
435mm Reach)

On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 12:24:00 PM UTC+10 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

Another thing you may want to consider is bringing an extra Voile strap as 
additional security for hanging your bike on the hook. One time, while 
returning on Amtrak after finishing the GAP, I discovered that my bike had 
bounced off the hook at some point. Luckily there was no damage or 
anything, but I would personally strap my wheel to the hook to avoid that 
possibility next time.

Brian
Lexington KY 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:03 PM, DTL  wrote:

Even by non-rivendell standards 74 inches end to end isn't that big - a 
modern gravel bike barely fits (thinking 700c 40mm tires, 440mm chainstays) 
so add larger tires, or longer reach of a mountain bike and you're plum out 
of luck.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Brian Turner]

Another thing you may want to consider is bringing an extra Voile strap as additional security for hanging your bike on the hook. One time, while returning on Amtrak after finishing the GAP, I discovered that my bike had bounced off the hook at some point. Luckily there was no damage or anything, but I would personally strap my wheel to the hook to avoid that possibility next time.BrianLexington KY On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:03 PM, DTL  wrote:Even by non-rivendell standards 74 inches end to end isn't that big - a modern gravel bike barely fits (thinking 700c 40mm tires, 440mm chainstays) so add larger tires, or longer reach of a mountain bike and you're plum out of luck. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[DTL]

Even by non-rivendell standards 74 inches end to end isn't that big - a 
modern gravel bike barely fits (thinking 700c 40mm tires, 440mm chainstays) 
so add larger tires, or longer reach of a mountain bike and you're plum out 
of luck. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Melanie]

Leah,

I recently took my Roadeo on Amtrak from New York to Philadelphia. The 
conductors didn’t come after me with a measuring tape. The real issue is 
whether or not the Platy will fit in the vertical “bike closet” at the end 
of the car. You must remove the front wheel and hang the bike on a hook by 
the rear wheel. If it doesn’t fit that way you could ignore the hook and 
just put it in the space loose and it should fit. I found it rather a 
struggle. It’s just not a good system. Either way, you do risk cosmetic 
damage. 

Melanie 

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:02:00 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a 
> camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 﫣
>
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and 
> take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 
> miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with 
> possible wind and heat issues...
>
>
> Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?
>
> Have fun
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
>> better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
>> deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
>> be much of a problem.
>> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer 
>> time.  More power to him.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>>>
>>> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to 
>>> drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking 
>>> my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state 
>>> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
>>> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, 
>>> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college 
>>> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>>>
>>> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
>>> that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
>>> get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
>>> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
>>> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
>>> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I 
>>> have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not 
>>> you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning 
>>> to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd 
>>> be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
>>> Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, 
>>> since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a 
>>> big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure 
>>> you'll be just fine out there with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
 too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you 
 are 
 rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
 would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
 the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
 know what the setup is inside the train cars. 

 If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
 know. 

 Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
 that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
 wheels with the 42mm tires!

 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Ryan]

I did a fair bit of camping and self-supported touring in Manitoba with a 
small club in my mid-to-late 30sglad I had the experience because I 
never camped as a kid...including camping in some truly terrifying 
thunderstorms...maybe God protects children and fools...:( 

Later when I did 2-day rides for MS150 in my 60s I stayed in the motel then 
the very nice lakeside hotel in Gimli (Icelandic community) with absolutely 
no shame

I'm looking forward to hearing about your weekend...I'm sure you'll make a 
lot of new friends

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 7:02:00 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a 
> camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 﫣
>
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and 
> take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 
> miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with 
> possible wind and heat issues...
>
>
> Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?
>
> Have fun
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
>> better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
>> deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
>> be much of a problem.
>> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer 
>> time.  More power to him.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>>>
>>> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to 
>>> drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking 
>>> my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state 
>>> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
>>> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, 
>>> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college 
>>> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>>>
>>> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
>>> that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
>>> get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
>>> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
>>> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
>>> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I 
>>> have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not 
>>> you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning 
>>> to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd 
>>> be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
>>> Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, 
>>> since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a 
>>> big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure 
>>> you'll be just fine out there with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
 too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you 
 are 
 rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
 would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
 the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
 know what the setup is inside the train cars. 

 If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
 know. 

 Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
 that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
 wheels with the 42mm tires!

 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Leah Peterson]

Yes, Ryan, same thoughts! I’m staying in a hotel. I’m not much of a camper. I feel like the Canucks might think that’s rather weak of me. 﫣On Jun 10, 2024, at 6:41 PM, Ryan  wrote:yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and take the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 miles is not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with possible wind and heat issues...Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?Have funOn Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll be much of a problem.Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer time.  More power to him.On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college physics study time. Yes, seriously.The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long Platy on board this one time for this one journey. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure you'll be just fine out there with it.On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t know what the setup is inside the train cars. If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me know. Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c wheels with the 42mm tires!Leah



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Re: [RBW] More Sams less Scams

[Nick A.]

ETA. Andrew's Sam is the silver fox. 

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 7:24:11 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:

> I'm gonna go ahead and say it, this is a silver fox. 
>
> I ride a new albion privateer for most of my business in town, but my 
> Atlantis is reserved for any longer rides. And every time I push out on it, 
> my day gets better. 
>
> [image: 2024_0530_12524000-01.jpeg]Nick in Falls Church VA
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 5:00:58 PM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing Tim!
>>
>> Had a great ride yesterday on the Sam also…
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Tim Bantham  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hello all, I was victimized by the aforementioned scammer you may have 
>> heard about in a previous post by our moderator Cyclofiend Jim. In good 
>> faith I paid for Albastache bars that didn't exist. Rather then waste any 
>> more negative energy on ranting about how horrible this person is I am 
>> going to instead flip the switch and talk about why I love my Rivendell 
>> bicycle. Will you keep the positive energy going by responding in kind?
>>
>> Yesterday I was riding in Analog Cycles annual 4x4 event. I was happily 
>> under biking with my Sam Hillborne on the notoriously rocky and muddy 
>> unmaintained roads of Vermont known as class IV. 
>>
>> Although the ride was well attended at one point I found myself alone, 
>> just me and 2TT beloved Sam Hillborne. As I was crossing the ridge I looked 
>> out at the impossible beauty of the Green Mountain state I thought about 
>> all of the ways my life has been enriched by this Rivendell bicycle. A 
>> simple machine but I have a connection to this bike that only readers of 
>> this forum will understand. I realized how lucky I am to have my health and 
>> the financial means to own not one but three Rivs. I am thankful for this 
>> small community we call RBW Owners Bunch. 
>>
>> Let's keep this positive energy going! Tell me why you love your 
>> Rivendell. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Ryan]

yeah if  little Prince platy isn't dialed in yet I'd roll the dice and take 
the raspberry one that you feel most efficient on. First day of 61 miles is 
not an insignificant distance (100 klicks to us Canucks) with possible wind 
and heat issues...

Are you camping or staying in a hotel/motel?

Have fun

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 5:24:50 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
> better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
> deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
> be much of a problem.
> Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer 
> time.  More power to him.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>>
>> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to drive 
>> me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking my 
>> preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state 
>> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
>> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, 
>> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college 
>> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>>
>> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
>> that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
>> get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
>> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
>> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
>> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>
>> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I 
>> have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not 
>> you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning 
>> to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd 
>> be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New 
>> Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, 
>> since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a 
>> big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure 
>> you'll be just fine out there with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is 
>>> too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
>>> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
>>> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
>>> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
>>> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>>>
>>> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
>>> know. 
>>>
>>> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
>>> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
>>> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[George Schick]

Thanks for revealing all of the details.  Helps explain the situation 
better.  Under the circumstances I'd say take the longer Platy and try to 
deal with the Amtrak conductors at New Buffalo.  Doesn't sound like it'll 
be much of a problem.
Oh, and congrats on having a son who's studying physics during the Summer 
time.  More power to him.

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 4:41:15 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. 
>
> I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to drive 
> me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking my 
> preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state 
> for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New 
> Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, 
> and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college 
> physics study time. Yes, seriously.
>
> The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut 
> that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to 
> get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long 
> rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than 
> in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long 
> Platy on board this one time for this one journey. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I have 
> to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not you can 
> take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning to get 
> from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd be 
> taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New Buffalo.  
> And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, since you 
> got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a big deal 
> over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure you'll be 
> just fine out there with it.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too 
>> long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
>> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
>> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
>> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
>> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>>
>> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
>> know. 
>>
>> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
>> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
>> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>>
>> Leah
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[RBW] revisted topic: plestcher double leg kickstands (not) fitting on rivs

[Michael Baquerizo]

I tried this sometime a year or two ago. 

I am very close to finishing up a clem L that will be a dedicated kid 
carrier (think mamafiet) with spoke protector, yepp budget seat, etc.

i had a spare plestcher kickstand hanging around and wanted to get it on 
the bike. i KNOW blue lug does this, and it really doesn't matter the size 
tire. mine are not even close to maxed out on the bike and im still getting 
the dreaded rub (got the same on my country appaloosa) 

does anyone have any experience wit this? has anyone asked blue lug how 
they do it? I am not a huge fan of single leggers and i don't really wan to 
spend money on a different kickstand ( but i will) 

i'd love to get the one i have working. but am curious as to a sure fire 
way to do so. before anyone suggests, i've aready reached out to riv. they 
don't have any real solutions. but i know one exists. im determined.

thanks

michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Leah Peterson]

Oh George, do you really want to know these details? Ok, then. I’m married to a man who is so fun and so yummy and he was going to drive me to Chicago and we were gonna make a night of it. So I was taking my preferred bike. But then he remembered he’s actually flying out of state for one of his many engagements and won’t be free to retrieve me in New Buffalo at the ride’s end. Now I have to rely on our teenage son to get me, and he is not thrilled to miss out on a single second of his summer college physics study time. Yes, seriously.The little Platy is just not trustworthy yet. It’s got a fender strut that’s misbehaving and I’m waiting for a new one to arrive. It’s work to get that thing to really roll, and I like to keep a good clip on long rides. But the people in New Buffalo are likely a little more low key than in a big place like Chicago, and maybe they’d let this pretty, too-long Platy on board this one time for this one journey. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 4:12 PM, George Schick  wrote:Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I have to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not you can take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning to get from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd be taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New Buffalo.  And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, since you got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a big deal over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure you'll be just fine out there with it.On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t know what the setup is inside the train cars. If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me know. Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c wheels with the 42mm tires!Leah



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[RBW] Re: FS — MUSA Shorts - Ranger Green - Size Small. / $75+ shipping

[River Bailey]

SOLD

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 9:12:25 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:

> Brand new. Never even washed.
>
> *MUSA shorts. Made in the USA*
>
> We've made them since 2004, and these are the best ones yet.
>
> They're still light, tough, quick-drying, but now they have 4% spandex for 
> a little stretch. They're as good as ever for riding, hiking, anything that 
> allows shorts allows these.
>
> You can get get similar shorts just as well-made and with more trick 
> features for less, but for riding bikes and all-around use, none beat 
> these, *and *they're made in the U.S. If our profit on them was 
> industry standard, they'd cost more than $150.
>
> More info on Riv site
>
> $75 = shipping
>
> [image: 8847AF87-C51D-4F08-949F-FBEE43F108A2_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
> [image: F4F75F11-73CC-4081-A616-006BA66777B1_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebar - Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 with Brake Levers - Road - TRP - RRL SR, Drilled

[River Bailey]

SOLD!

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 12:37:44 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got enough Noodles meself.. I'm just piping up to recommend you 
> specify the width, and the stem length. 
> The stem looks like a Nitto Technomic, another favorite.
>
> From the picture, the Noodle is heat treated, meaning 46, 48, or 
> (Rivendell special) 52 cm in width, measured at the drops.
> It's a well put-together package.
>
> cheers and GLWS -mathias
>
>
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 9:21:48 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:
>
>> Had on my Roadini for a couple of months. Switched back to alt. bars.
>>
>>  FS - Handlebar - Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 with Brake Levers - Road 
>> - TRP - RRL SR, Drilled and stem included, plus already wrappped. Entire 
>> set up $175 = shipping[image: 
>> C58AD9E7-B983-4382-96EB-40F1B85D4D9A_1_105_c.jpeg]
>> [image: 80E1523F-E217-4F90-A265-7DC94A2A6953_1_105_c.jpeg]
>> [image: C1A7DF6D-7FD5-405B-B2AE-CE62950A9905_1_105_c.jpeg]
>> [image: 20B57A2A-6744-4245-97DC-78EB681229C3.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Blue lug posted a periwinkle Sam on twitter today

[Ian A]

Michael

What an amazing picture. Please share your camera and set up.

IanA

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:25:34 AM UTC-7 Michael Connors wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[Bill Lindsay]

Here's the ride I did yesterday in Marin.  I edited it just now to move the 
Start/Finish a few miles away from my front door:

Ridge Trail Fondo · Ride with GPS 

The offroad section in the middle was quite strenuous.  IT kicked my butt.  
I did it with drop bars and 55mm knobbies and no shocks and it was 
definitely underbiking in a few sections.  All the other bikes on the 
trails were full-on mountain bikes: analog and e-bikes.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
> You can reply directly if you choose.
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sac

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[RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[George Schick]

Between this post and your previous post requesting a ride partner I have 
to admit to being a bit confused.  If the concern is whether or not you can 
take that long Platy on Amtrak back to KZoo, how were you planning to get 
from Michigan to Chicago in the first place?  I'd assumed that you'd be 
taking the train on that leg, too, having been dropped off a New Buffalo.  
And if I were you, I'd use your new shorter Platy for this ride, since you 
got it to fit on the train in the first place.  I wouldn't make a big deal 
over the size tires, etc., just use and ride that bike. I'm sure you'll be 
just fine out there with it.


On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too 
> long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>
> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
> know. 
>
> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[Wesley]

Somehow I wrote "Marines" where I meant to write "Martinez". Dunno how that 
happened. Anyway, sorry for any confusion.
-W

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 7:49:32 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:

> in my experience, Marin is generally very hilly or very heavy traffic. If 
> you’re coming from Sac I would recommend going to Marines instead and 
> riding into the trails above Rankin Park. There’s a steep climb to start 
> but then it gets excellent. It’s a huge network of fire roads that are part 
> of the Bay Trail, among others. 
> -Wes (also in Sac)
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Greetings all, 
>>
>> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
>> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
>> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
>> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
>> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
>> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
>> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
>> You can reply directly if you choose. 
>>
>> Thanks, Liz in Sac
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Jason Fuller]

This is an absolutely unhinged idea and I don't know if it can work, but - 
if you didn't have a front rack installed and unhook the front brake, (and 
perhaps would require no fender, also) you might be able to loosen the 
quill stem, rotate the front wheel 180 so the fork is backwards while the 
handlebars are forwards.  This would shorten the bike about 4 inches for 
travel. Obviously you'd only do this right before and after loading the 
train and not ride it like this. 

On Monday 10 June 2024 at 11:31:26 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too 
> long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>
> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
> know. 
>
> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Brian Forsee]

I have not taken a long wheel base bike on board the Amtrak but I've 
skirted their tire width limit multiple times. I've never had any conductor 
look at my bike closely at all. I inquired one time about the tire width 
limit and the conductor said he didn't really care what the bike was as 
long as the passenger could get it on and off the train on their own. 
Obviously different conductors may feel differently.  I'd roll the dice if 
I were you. They probably won't say anything and if they do it'll probably 
be a 'just so you know for next time'.

Brian
On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 1:31:26 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too 
> long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
> rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
> would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
> the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
> know what the setup is inside the train cars. 
>
> If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
> know. 
>
> Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
> that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
> wheels with the 42mm tires!
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Hi! Quick question. I was looking at Amtrak and I know my 55 Platy is too 
long - it’s like 74” and the max for Amtrak is 70”. However, if you are 
rolling the bike on board, are they really very strict? I ask because it 
would be great to ride the train home from New Buffalo back to Kzoo after 
the wrap-up of my tour on Saturday. I have never ridden Amtrak, so I don’t 
know what the setup is inside the train cars. 

If anyone has successfully wheeled a longwheelbaser onto Amtrak, let me 
know. 

Yes, yes, I know this is what my little purple pocket Platy is for, but 
that bike would not be my choice for a 106 mile road ride. I want my 700c 
wheels with the 42mm tires!

Leah

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Re: [RBW] FS: Handle bars, stems and saddle (Nitto, Brooks , IRD and Vello Orange)

[atreya...@gmail.com]

Bump. Handle bars, stems and Saddle are still available. 

Thanks ,
Deepak 

On Monday, June 3, 2024 at 9:23:34 AM UTC-7 atreya...@gmail.com wrote:

> All, 
> Wanted to give a quick update on what's remaining. 
>
> *Handlebars*
>
> 1.Chocos (x1) - $90 (< 100 Miles) – 1 left 
>
>  
>
> *Stems*
>
> 1.IRD faceplater  100m - $70
>
> 2.Nitto talllux 70 mm -  $70
>
> 3.Vello orange 120 mm stem with quill adapter - $50
>
>  
>
> *Saddle*
>
> B17 special in honey $110 (<200 miles still lots of life)
>
> Thanks,
> Deepak Atreya
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 10:05 PM atreya...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>>
>> I am clearing out my parts bin. These would make nice components for the 
>> upcoming Sam builds.  All the prices mentioned below are excluding 
>> shipping. We can finalize the shipping based on destination and USPS 
>> delivery.  It's available in east bay, CA for pick up. Thanks for looking. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/194400486@N07/76PBS7P8V2
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Handlebars*
>>
>> 1.Chocos (x2) - $90 (< 100 Miles)
>>
>>  *Stems*
>>
>> 1.Nitto faceplater 80mm - $100 
>>
>> 2.Nitto faceplater 100mm - $100 
>>
>> 3.IRD faceplater  - $70
>>
>> 4.Nitto talllux 70 mm -  $70
>>
>> 5.Vello orange 120 mm stem with quill adapter - $50
>>
>> *Saddle*
>>
>> B17 special in honey $110 (<200 miles still lots of life)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deepak 
>>
>> Danville, CA
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Re: [RBW] Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[Piaw Na]

I recommend any of the Marin Headlands rides that the Western Wheelers 
organize. Routesheets/GPS tracks are 
here: 
https://westernwheelersbicycleclub.wildapricot.org/page-1859035#LDT_Marin_Headlands

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 9:52:35 AM UTC-7 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> There a set of fire roads that go around Lake Lagunites, that the locals 
> call the Lazy Lakes Ride.  About 4-6 miles.You can drive to the ranger 
> station for Lake Lagunites.  Conversely you start at Phoenix Lake and there 
> is a pretty significant climb to Lake Lagunites.   
>
> Have fun. 
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 11:14 PM  wrote:
>
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
>> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
>> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
>> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
>> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
>> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
>> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
>> You can reply directly if you choose.
>>
>> Thanks, Liz in Sac
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Re: [RBW] Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[Victor Hanson]

There a set of fire roads that go around Lake Lagunites, that the locals
call the Lazy Lakes Ride.  About 4-6 miles.You can drive to the ranger
station for Lake Lagunites.  Conversely you start at Phoenix Lake and there
is a pretty significant climb to Lake Lagunites.

Have fun.

On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 11:14 PM  wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a
> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in
> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He
> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be
> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any
> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too
> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is.
> You can reply directly if you choose.
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sac
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[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebar - Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 with Brake Levers - Road - TRP - RRL SR, Drilled

[Mathias Steiner]

I've got enough Noodles meself.. I'm just piping up to recommend you 
specify the width, and the stem length. 
The stem looks like a Nitto Technomic, another favorite.

>From the picture, the Noodle is heat treated, meaning 46, 48, or (Rivendell 
special) 52 cm in width, measured at the drops.
It's a well put-together package.

cheers and GLWS -mathias


On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 9:21:48 PM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:

> Had on my Roadini for a couple of months. Switched back to alt. bars.
>
>  FS - Handlebar - Nitto Noodle (Mod. 177) - 26.0 with Brake Levers - Road 
> - TRP - RRL SR, Drilled and stem included, plus already wrappped. Entire 
> set up $175 = shipping[image: 
> C58AD9E7-B983-4382-96EB-40F1B85D4D9A_1_105_c.jpeg]
> [image: 80E1523F-E217-4F90-A265-7DC94A2A6953_1_105_c.jpeg]
> [image: C1A7DF6D-7FD5-405B-B2AE-CE62950A9905_1_105_c.jpeg]
> [image: 20B57A2A-6744-4245-97DC-78EB681229C3.jpeg]
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

As of today the rack is still available. Please reach out with any 
questions!

On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7 Steve wrote:

> Todd, PM sent. Thanks
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-4 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Rack is still available. This is a pretty nice rack, I just don’t have 
>> use for it right now. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 7:48:51 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:
>>
>>> Emailed
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Bump

 On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Rack is still available
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>
>> Link to photos  - $80 
>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>
>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[Wesley]

in my experience, Marin is generally very hilly or very heavy traffic. If 
you’re coming from Sac I would recommend going to Marines instead and 
riding into the trails above Rankin Park. There’s a steep climb to start 
but then it gets excellent. It’s a huge network of fire roads that are part 
of the Bay Trail, among others. 
-Wes (also in Sac)
On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 11:15:01 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a 
> day. He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
> anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He 
> is 15 (almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be 
> riding my older Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any 
> recommendations of a pretty ride that’s not just all climbing or too 
> sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what his is. 
> You can reply directly if you choose.
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sac

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[RBW] Recommend me a ride in Marin or nearby?

[luckyturnip]

Greetings all,

My son wants me to take him riding in Marin or the bay somewhere for a day. 
He’s newly experimenting with riding a semi-loaded bikepacking rig in 
anticipation of attempting a solo three day trip at the end of summer. He is 15 
(almost 16) and will be riding on a loaner VO Piolet. I will be riding my older 
Atlantis set up with Super Yummy gravel tires. Any recommendations of a pretty 
ride that’s not just all climbing or too sketchy? My fitness level isn’t what 
his is. 
You can reply directly if you choose.

Thanks, Liz in Sac

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