[RBW] Re: FS: Canti brake sets - Tektro, VO Grand Cru and Avid Shorty Ultimate

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Price drop:

Tektro CR710 - $35
VO Grand Cru Zeste - $60
Avid Short Ultimate - $75




On Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:00:48 UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Accumulated these in the process of deciding on brakes for my Appaloosa 
> back in June.  I have used them each for 100 miles or less.  
>
> Prices shipped (within USA).  All are front/back set.
>
> Tektro CR710 - $45
> VO Grand Cru Zeste - $70
> Avid Short Ultimate - $90
>
> Pictures:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ccarTTwW0tQrGxk42
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] "You should bike to work"

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Happy Friday everyone!

Our local NPR station has a morning feature called Listener Perspectives. 
Today's was about biking to work.  It is 2-mins listen.  Enjoy:

https://ww2.kqed.org/perspectives/2018/01/11/work-cycle/

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[RBW] Re: How to mount B&M tail light on this rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

That's a robust solution! Might be the option I'll go for if p-clamps don't 
work.

Also, your photography is amazing!

On Tuesday, 2 January 2018 10:10:24 UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Thank you for the p-clamp idea Kainalu.  That seems like the right place 
> to start!  I might even have some in the shed.  
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:23:20 UTC-8, Kainalu V. wrote:
>>
>> Two small p-clamps on the rack would do the trick, or howzabout a fancy 
>> (or not) fender mount? Only problem with the p-clamps would be that the top 
>> of the light might be above the edge of the rack. Only problem with a 
>> fender mount is, where do you buy a cool two bolt fender mount? Is the rack 
>> steel? If so you could braze a tab on. Only problem with that is brazing 
>> takes practice and equipment. So many possibilities...
>> -Kai 
>> BK NY 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How to mount B&M tail light on this rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thank you for the p-clamp idea Kainalu.  That seems like the right place to 
start!  I might even have some in the shed.  





On Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:23:20 UTC-8, Kainalu V. wrote:
>
> Two small p-clamps on the rack would do the trick, or howzabout a fancy 
> (or not) fender mount? Only problem with the p-clamps would be that the top 
> of the light might be above the edge of the rack. Only problem with a 
> fender mount is, where do you buy a cool two bolt fender mount? Is the rack 
> steel? If so you could braze a tab on. Only problem with that is brazing 
> takes practice and equipment. So many possibilities...
> -Kai 
> BK NY 

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[RBW] FS: Canti brake sets - Tektro, VO Grand Cru and Avid Shorty Ultimate

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Accumulated these in the process of deciding on brakes for my Appaloosa 
back in June.  I have used them each for 100 miles or less.  

Prices shipped (within USA).  All are front/back set.

Tektro CR710 - $45
VO Grand Cru Zeste - $70
Avid Short Ultimate - $90

Pictures:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ccarTTwW0tQrGxk42



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[RBW] Re: WTT: Jones 2.5 SG + stem combo for Bosco + Tallux

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks for the recommendation Joe.  I was wondering about this.  Sometime 
ago I went to Riv website to order a Tallux, but stopped since I wasn't 
sure which one I needed.

Brian and I are trading the handlebars!


On Monday, 11 December 2017 07:55:11 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I recommend the 13cm stem. Boscos reach WAY back. 

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[RBW] WTT: Jones 2.5 SG + stem combo for Bosco + Tallux

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Its been a few weeks since I changed my handlebar.  Feels like time to try 
the next one in my list :)

I have this setup:
- Jones SG 2.5
- VO Threadless Stem Adaptor 
- Dimension Threadless Stem 31.8/ 70mm/125 deg

All are new.  I have done couple of rides (less than 30 miles)

I'd like to exchange all these for your Bosco/Tallux combo.

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[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

[Ash [who works to bike]]

That's indeed a slick color combination!

I love the details.



On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:56:51 UTC-8, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6qexbQb6-yg/Wh9lWihllUI/HWs/0gmEtr7CXlAe0FLMk33tdfvNravv60phQCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_1342.jpg>
> I think the Jones Bar looks much better with the grips designed for it and 
> some tape to complement the frame. Pic below.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to 
> bike] wrote:
>>
>> Completely agree reg aesthetics.  It can't match the clean elegant look 
>> of Nitto Dirt Drop + ChocoNORM/Albas
>>
>> It keeps bothering me.  I try not to think about it :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 28 November 2017 00:12:00 UTC-5, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>>>
>>> No doubt these are comfortable (I used to run Jones on my fat bike) but 
>>> I can't say I find the 2.5 aesthetically pleasing. That front loop looks 
>>> enormous. Maybe seeing them on more builds will normalize the look. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to 
>>> bike] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Like every other alt bar in I've ever seen/heard of, Jones Loop too was 
>>>> in my shortlist.  I finally ordered one after catching up on the handlebar 
>>>> thread started by Joe.  This is the 7th handlebar in 8 months.  Oh well, 
>>>> think how much I'm saving because I'm not into modding cars ;)
>>>>
>>>> I needed it above the seat level, so first got SOMA Hi Rider stem.   
>>>> Turned out it was way too higher than I would need.   VO Threadless Stem 
>>>> Adaptor worked out perfect.  Given (a) Appa's top tube is quite long and 
>>>> (b) Jones bar does not sweep as far back as Alba or Chco NORM, I needed a 
>>>> short stem.  Dimension Threadless stem 31.8/70Mm/125 Degree fit the bill.
>>>>
>>>> Here are a few pictures for the curious ones.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Wrapping Albastache Bars

[Ash [who works to bike]]

OMG!  Wish I had watched this video couple of years ago.  Esp for the cool 
twain wrapping trick.  I always messed up that part pretty bad and 
attempted to redo every couple of weeks :)


On Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:04:34 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here ya go. Excellent soundtrack, too. 
>
> https://youtu.be/tO8DcaOJzrA
>

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[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Ty, bar-tape is inevitable.  Our daytime temp is still in 60s.  As soon as 
it dips, bar tap will appear automatically 

On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 13:10:41 UTC-5, Ty Smith wrote:
>
> Looks great! Really want one of those for my Xtracycle! 
>
> Only thing I think you need to finish it off is a bit of bar-tape, twine 
> and shellac! ;)
>
> Ty
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> Like every other alt bar in I've ever seen/heard of, Jones Loop too was 
>> in my shortlist.  I finally ordered one after catching up on the handlebar 
>> thread started by Joe.  This is the 7th handlebar in 8 months.  Oh well, 
>> think how much I'm saving because I'm not into modding cars ;)
>>
>> I needed it above the seat level, so first got SOMA Hi Rider stem.   
>> Turned out it was way too higher than I would need.   VO Threadless Stem 
>> Adaptor worked out perfect.  Given (a) Appa's top tube is quite long and 
>> (b) Jones bar does not sweep as far back as Alba or Chco NORM, I needed a 
>> short stem.  Dimension Threadless stem 31.8/70Mm/125 Degree fit the bill.
>>
>> Here are a few pictures for the curious ones.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Completely agree reg aesthetics.  It can't match the clean elegant look of 
Nitto Dirt Drop + ChocoNORM/Albas

It keeps bothering me.  I try not to think about it :)



On Tuesday, 28 November 2017 00:12:00 UTC-5, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>
> No doubt these are comfortable (I used to run Jones on my fat bike) but I 
> can't say I find the 2.5 aesthetically pleasing. That front loop looks 
> enormous. Maybe seeing them on more builds will normalize the look. 
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> Like every other alt bar in I've ever seen/heard of, Jones Loop too was 
>> in my shortlist.  I finally ordered one after catching up on the handlebar 
>> thread started by Joe.  This is the 7th handlebar in 8 months.  Oh well, 
>> think how much I'm saving because I'm not into modding cars ;)
>>
>> I needed it above the seat level, so first got SOMA Hi Rider stem.   
>> Turned out it was way too higher than I would need.   VO Threadless Stem 
>> Adaptor worked out perfect.  Given (a) Appa's top tube is quite long and 
>> (b) Jones bar does not sweep as far back as Alba or Chco NORM, I needed a 
>> short stem.  Dimension Threadless stem 31.8/70Mm/125 Degree fit the bill.
>>
>> Here are a few pictures for the curious ones.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 51 Joe Appaloosa silver

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I'm 79 PBH too and 51cm fits just perfect.

I must add that:

If you are considering a drop bar build, you need to be in the PBH range 
Bob B mentioned.  

For my height (and torso/arm length importantly) , even with a stem with 
very short extension, only fully swept back handlebars are comfortable (for 
the way this bike is meant to be ridden, which is fully upright)




On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:02:23 UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'd widen the PBH range down to 78. I'm 79 and it fit me great. 

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[RBW] WTB: Clem 45cm or Appa 46cm (frame or complete)

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Want to try and get my wife into biking.  She's 5'2", so I'm thinking a 
bike with 26" wheels would be ideal.  

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thank you Christian.  Much appreciate it!

Can't wait to try it!

On Sunday, 3 September 2017 21:42:03 UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Hi Ash,
>
> Here's a link to the the rough route in two parts. Its split because Ride 
> With GPS wouldn't let me connect the route through Muir Beach:
>
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/17423638   Part 1
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/17423687   Part 2
>
> Christian
> Berkeley,CA
>
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 3:18:51 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> Brompton?!!   Take some pictures.   I mean ask someone to take pictures 
>> of you riding a Brompton :)  I always chuckle when I see someone on a 
>> Brompton because it reminds of circus!
>>
>> Hey Christian, is there any easy way for you too share the route you 
>> rode?  Thanks..
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Ash [who works to bike]]

This picture made my day!   I love Bromptons. Their design is so 
innovative.  Their bag mounting system (and the bags that go with it) is 
one of the coolest things I've seen in bikes.  I also bought a Brompton (3 
times) just for how neat that system is.

A coworker in my previous job had a Brompton.  He is 6'7".   Picture him on 
a Brompton :)



On Saturday, 2 September 2017 17:59:50 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Patrick, here's my new Brompton (I sold the electric one) with a Brompton 
> C Bag. It's huge, and they make huger ones. 
>
> Hey Ash, it's a circus bike at Tilden Park! 
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 5:53:32 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: 
> > John: You breathe new, and doubtless still forlorn hope in my despairing 
> quest to make my Dahon Hon Solo a load carrier. 
> > 
> > 
> > Would you mind posting a photo of your Bompton with touring bags? I'd 
> like to see what sort of system you use. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick Moore, who has 2 other load carrying bikes, in ABQ, NM 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Surlyprof  wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > [Snippo ...] 
> > John  
> > Whose Brompton with touring bag has made commuting on public transport 
> and grocery shopping so much nicer. 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. 
> > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. 
> > Other professional writing services. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ 
> > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ 
> > 
> > Patrick Moore 
> > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Brompton?!!   Take some pictures.   I mean ask someone to take pictures of 
you riding a Brompton :)  I always chuckle when I see someone on a Brompton 
because it reminds of circus!

Hey Christian, is there any easy way for you too share the route you rode? 
 Thanks..

 

On Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:54:14 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I need to do it, too, Ash. It's kinda ridiculous that I live here and 
> haven't ridden most of that route. I need to toss the Brompton in the car 
> and get out there. 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Going out for this ride would be my dream Saturday!  Hope I'll get time 
some time for myself one of these weekends.

Thanks for the write up (and the idea) Christian!



On Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:41:58 UTC-7, christian poppell wrote:
>
> Originally titled this as "Adventures in Single Speeding" but I'm not 
> really sure if single speed counts as I have at least three speeds. They're 
> just not super accessible while underway. Until I think of another term 
> I'll call it single speeding. Also, the account is very San Francisco 
> specific but I've tried to describe it the best that I could. 
>
> I was off the bike for about a week while visiting family in Florida. I 
> did get in a short ride that amounted to 8 miles and about 100' elevation 
> crossing two bridges. When I got back to California I decided to ride the 
> Quickbeam to the top of Mt Tam via railroad grade, then take Coast View 
> down to Muir Beach for a late lunch. From there I could take the headlands 
> dirt or the paved road depending on how I was feeling.
>
> I got a late start Saturday morning. Ate a bigish breakfast and wrote a 
> few post cards. Swung through the post office on my way to bart and got 
> stamps to mail my cards. The BART ride was uneventful and I arrived at 
> Embarcadero station relatively quickly. I took my normal route through the 
> city along Embarcadero, branching off at North Point then over the hill to 
> Fort Mason. I Stopped at the Safeway in the Marina to get some snacks: 
> bananas, bars, cookie, and some cornbread. When I was leaving a woman with 
> a slight accent asked me if the way she locked her bicycle looked good to 
> me. I showed her the Sheldon way of locking (through the rear wheel between 
> the rear triangle) and we began talking. Her name was Marta and she is from 
> Barcelona visiting for a week. We talked about politics and other world 
> events for about two hours. Eventually we parted ways and I headed out 
> along Crissy field up to the bike path where there were swarms of tourists 
> on rental bicycles. I saw only one quick altercation where a road cyclist 
> was chirping at the tourists to get the F out of the way.
>
> After a slow bridge crossing I dipped down in to Sausalito. I had to 
> gently tell a tourist not to use their phone while riding. It was really 
> dangerous moving through Sausalito. Lots of inattentive inexperienced 
> riders with heavy cross winds in the road. I was glad to get out of there.
>
> Fighting a slight headwind, I eventually made it to Mill Valley and on to 
> Old Railroad Grade. I really wasn’t feeling too great on the ride up. I'm 
> not sure if it was the week off the bike or lack of food. I felt pretty 
> gassed. I stopped along the side less than halfway up and ate. After that I 
> felt a little better, but the whole ride up to West Point inn I had to push 
> myself. After the inn I was passed by a guy who was either riding an e-MTB 
> or he was the strongest rider I had ever seen. I’m fairly certain it was 
> the former but I didn’t see him again to ask. Eventually I got into a 
> rhythm near the top. I spoke to a guy with a nice Steve Rex road bike with 
> an older Campagnolo ergo group. Said he had it since the late 90's and 
> enjoyed it very much. It looked like a great bike. 
>
>
>
> 
>
> *Quickbeam at the top of Mt T**amalpais*
>
> Before heading downhill I switched into my freewheel and pumped up my rear 
> tire a bit to avoid pinch flats. I was cruising down and boosting off some 
> of the little berms on railroad grade. The last one I hit a little sideways 
> and almost lost it on the landing. Fun stuff.
>
> Coasted past West Point Inn and down to Pantoll campground. At the 
> intersection I met a guy named Gary who has ridden in the area for a while. 
> He was physics professor that was living in China. His son is also in 
> physics and did his PhD in fluid dynamics. We talked for about an hour or 
> so about the Bay Area and riding.
>
>
>
> 
>
> *taken from the picnic table, SUPER FUN!*
>
> I made it to the Coast View Trail in a heavy fog and light rain. Coast 
> View is one of my favorite rides in the area. It's not so steep that you're 
> constantly braking hard and the trail is a good mix of easy and 
> semi-technical riding, especially on a road bike with larger tires. I 
> pushed myself to go a little faster than normal on the trail as I felt that 
> there weren’t any others using the trail at the later hour (around 6:30pm). 
> Turns out I was right and I hadn’t seen anyone coming the opposite 
> direction since I left the top of Mt. Tam. I rattled my teeth out on the 
> bumpy sections and bunny hopped the water gates. I had a lot of fun and 
> even said it out l

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for thumb shifters?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Another vote for Microshift.

I have them mounted on Albatross on the inside so that (a) they won't 
obstruct when I want to move hands to the curves (b) I get the sweet 
ratcheting type shifting for the rear DR- which is 98% of the shirting on 
my setup.  I push with the thumb for slower gears and index finger for 
coming back to faster gears.

As with many other things, I was interested in experimenting with different 
types.  So I also got XT trigger shifter.  After using Microshift I don't 
feel like even trying those.  They feel too bulky and clunky.  I also like 
not having to listen to the clicking noise.

I think they will work fine on flat bars.  I do feel that shifting method 
is not as ergonomic as trigger shifters.  If I didn't mind the bulk/real 
estate needs and the clicking sound, I would have gone with the trigger 
shifter. 

On Monday, 28 August 2017 15:07:57 UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> if it will make you feel better, think of Microshift as the new SunTour, 
> because that's what it is.  
> Between my daughter and I, we have Microshift index on two bikes, bar-ends 
> and thumbies, and they're Perfect after years and long miles.  
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:58:38 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> ps - try Universal Cycles
>>
>> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:57:43 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> Microshift indexed thumbies 
>>>
>>> 
>>> she will like you for it
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 4:24:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 You'll get friction front, index rear with Shimano or MicroSHIFT 
 thumbies. She might be happy with that..friction front is easy to learn. 
 Beyond that I would warn against buying her shifters or a bike YOU like 
 better. 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks.  I'll be waiting for your update!

Also, good luck!


On Monday, 28 August 2017 14:26:47 UTC-7, Jeremy Tavan wrote:
>
> I am apparently a sucker for crowdfunded technology projects, against my 
> better judgement. I've pre-ordered one of these and will be installing it 
> on my Clem. I will share my results, when and if it arrives.
>
> /Jeremy
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:16:46 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> If ever someone gets to try this, please post your experience 
>> http://www.bimoz.ch/de/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:40:08 UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>>>
>>> https://content.superpedestrian.com/the-copenhagen-wheel
>>>
>>> My wife talks electric bikes. Thought I could get her a rivbike and then 
>>> just pop a Copenhagen wheel on there.
>>> Clean, and she doesn't have to ride a 55lb electric bike.
>>> Anyone tried it on their riv?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried a Copenhagen wheel on their Rivbike??

[Ash [who works to bike]]

If ever someone gets to try this, please post your 
experience http://www.bimoz.ch/de/





On Saturday, 26 August 2017 07:40:08 UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> https://content.superpedestrian.com/the-copenhagen-wheel
>
> My wife talks electric bikes. Thought I could get her a rivbike and then 
> just pop a Copenhagen wheel on there.
> Clean, and she doesn't have to ride a 55lb electric bike.
> Anyone tried it on their riv?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Clem L

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks Joe!

You will get a flood of emails when I start this project :)

For you it is headwinds and hills.  For me it is 3 dozen  or so stop signs 
and traffic lights on the way to work (23 miles).  I'm thinking with a 
motor assist (a) my knees would feel better as I don't need to crank 0 to 
12mph 30 times each way (b) I can shave 10-15 mins in each direction (c) 
I'll be riding safer, as it won't feel like too much effort to make a full 
stop and then start at stop signs and other risky spots.  With full manual 
peddling, once I'm a bit tired, not only I feel lazy to make a full, but 
sometimes I jump red lights when there is no traffic at the intersection. 
 I'd rather make a full stop than invite dirty stares  or encourage other 
less responsible riders to start jumping lights


On Thursday, 24 August 2017 20:50:22 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Btw, Ash (and anyone else), if you want to yak more about my electric 
> build, gimme a holler at joeremi 62 at g mail dot com. I could yammer all 
> night about this stuff here, but they'd run me outta Rivtown ;-) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Clem L

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Joe,  this's probably one of the best e-bikes out there!  I'm saying this 
because I've tried a bunch of them and they are all terrible as a bicycle. 
 I'm spoilt by the ride quality of my Joe, which the main reason I don't 
have an e-bike.  

Your add-on kit does not look all that clunky.  I'd have to explore this 
option.  Could you share some details about this unit?

 
On Sunday, 20 August 2017 20:00:44 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Clem L goes electric.
> "Judas!"
> (Grant will get that one)
>
> I did the deed today and it's fabulous. Honestly it's kind of ridiculous 
> how well this Riv model accepts and works with a mid-drive kit; it's smooth 
> and stable enough to handle the extra weight and speed, and it still turns 
> and stops really well (changing my mind about thinking I need discs). The 
> black kit even "hides" well with this color and the battery in the 
> TrunkSack. I know it's not everyone's cup o' joe, but boy did I appreciate 
> the assist in that killer headwind on the way back from Benicia to Vallejo 
> this evening. (Hi to the guy on the root beer Roadeo at Benicia State Park!)
>
> The last pic isn't lit well, but I wanted to show something I'd never 
> thought of until I owned a step-through..check out the water bottle access. 
> I've never been good at grabbing a bottle while pedaling a diamond frame 
> with upright bars (too far away), but this design puts it way up there in 
> front of you. Nice!
>
> I tend to buy and sell bikes without getting too attached to them, but I 
> think I'm going to keep this one. It's beautiful, does the things I need it 
> to do, and it just fits me. Which brings me to a thought about my (now sold 
> to a happy rider) Appaloosa that hadn't really sunk in until today: It was 
> also beautiful and I loved the ride, but there was always a nagging sense 
> that it was meant to be ridden more and harder than I was up to, like 
> buying a Honda Goldwing touring motorcycle and riding it to 7-Eleven. It 
> wasn't really ME, and Clem L is. Which is probably weird, but that's ok! 
> Thanks for humoring me and looking at my new bike. 
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/J5Y4fDycfG896hNP9
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ideas for using Busch & Muller tail light without a rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thank you Julian.  

If I can't source the one Irving mentioned, these would be great 
alternatives.  Had no idea such thing existed.  Agreed, one of those will 
work great for the brake bridge.  Looks like quality stuff.



On Thursday, 17 August 2017 04:24:22 UTC-7, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> You might check out the mounting brackets made by Framebuilders Supply. 
> The large mounts your B&M light from the brake bridge -- lightweight, well 
> made, great placement. 
>
> https://framebuildersupply.com/collections/light-brackets 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fframebuildersupply.com%2Fcollections%2Flight-brackets&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH2fW7ca59uCvkW1sSRqRryCpJNdg>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 11:06:15 PM UTC-5, Ash [who works to 
> bike] wrote:
>>
>> I really liked the B&M dyno tail light and picked it up when I was at Riv 
>> the last time.  Its been sitting there for 3 months because I do not have a 
>> rear rack.  Looking for ways mount it on seat post, saddle rail or fender 
>> (least preferred).
>>
>> This didn't seem like an unusual need, but Google didn't provide me 
>> anything useful. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ideas for using Busch & Muller tail light without a rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks Jay.  I was going to look for something like this if I couldn't find 
the mount.

I was sold on the 'LineTec' theory hence wanted to go extra length looking 
for ways to mount the one I have.



On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 23:05:21 UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> http://www.starbike.com/en/busch-and-mueller-secula/
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 9:03:40 AM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>> I have one that mounts on the seat stay.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 7:51:09 AM UTC+3, Orc wrote:
>>>
>>> If your bicycle has rear rack bosses on the seatstays, you can mount it 
>>> to that with a wire bracket (I use B&M headlight brackets for this.)
>>>
>>> If your bicycle has rack/fender bosses at the dropouts, you can mount it 
>>> with a metal bracket  (a section of aluminum flat stock curved 90 degrees 
>>> and drilled at both ends.)
>>>
>>> If you have a torch, a hourglass boss, and don't care about blemishing 
>>> the paint, you can braze that boss to the seatstay and then use a wire 
>>> bracket.
>>>
>>> If you have canti or v-brakes, you can use a metal bracket to mount it 
>>> to one of the canti posts.
>>>
>>> (I've done all four of these;  on my handmade frames I put a hourglass 
>>> boss about 4" up from the dropout and then use a B&M headlight bracket to 
>>> mount the tail light.)
>>>
>>> -david parsons
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:06:15 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to 
>>> bike] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I really liked the B&M dyno tail light and picked it up when I was at 
>>>> Riv the last time.  Its been sitting there for 3 months because I do not 
>>>> have a rear rack.  Looking for ways mount it on seat post, saddle rail or 
>>>> fender (least preferred).
>>>>
>>>> This didn't seem like an unusual need, but Google didn't provide me 
>>>> anything useful. 
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Ideas for using Busch & Muller tail light without a rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Hi David, these ideas do sound interesting.. except the one that needs a 
torch.  Do have any pictures of your setup(s)?



On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:51:09 UTC-7, Orc wrote:
>
> If your bicycle has rear rack bosses on the seatstays, you can mount it to 
> that with a wire bracket (I use B&M headlight brackets for this.)
>
> If your bicycle has rack/fender bosses at the dropouts, you can mount it 
> with a metal bracket  (a section of aluminum flat stock curved 90 degrees 
> and drilled at both ends.)
>
> If you have a torch, a hourglass boss, and don't care about blemishing the 
> paint, you can braze that boss to the seatstay and then use a wire bracket.
>
> If you have canti or v-brakes, you can use a metal bracket to mount it to 
> one of the canti posts.
>
> (I've done all four of these;  on my handmade frames I put a hourglass 
> boss about 4" up from the dropout and then use a B&M headlight bracket to 
> mount the tail light.)
>
> -david parsons
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:06:15 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> I really liked the B&M dyno tail light and picked it up when I was at Riv 
>> the last time.  Its been sitting there for 3 months because I do not have a 
>> rear rack.  Looking for ways mount it on seat post, saddle rail or fender 
>> (least preferred).
>>
>> This didn't seem like an unusual need, but Google didn't provide me 
>> anything useful. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ideas for using Busch & Muller tail light without a rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks Irving!

Something like this is exactly what I was hoping to find.  


On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:41:29 UTC-7, Irving wrote:
>
> B&M sells a saddle rail mount 
> <http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Lights/427SH.jpg> that 
> seems to work. I've thought about this before since I also like the dyno 
> tail light that is meant for the rear rack... unfortunately this precludes 
> you from using any saddle bag.
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:06:15 PM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> I really liked the B&M dyno tail light and picked it up when I was at Riv 
>> the last time.  Its been sitting there for 3 months because I do not have a 
>> rear rack.  Looking for ways mount it on seat post, saddle rail or fender 
>> (least preferred).
>>
>> This didn't seem like an unusual need, but Google didn't provide me 
>> anything useful. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Ideas for using Busch & Muller tail light without a rack?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I really liked the B&M dyno tail light and picked it up when I was at Riv 
the last time.  Its been sitting there for 3 months because I do not have a 
rear rack.  Looking for ways mount it on seat post, saddle rail or fender 
(least preferred).

This didn't seem like an unusual need, but Google didn't provide me 
anything useful. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs A. Homer Hilsen

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Hey Paul,

Since you are only an hour away from Riv HQ, it is definitely worth driving 
up and test-riding.  

While you are there, be sure to ride an Appaloosa as well :)   When I 
visited Riv the first time, I rode it just out of curiosity and I ended up 
going with it instead of the bike I was there to learn about  (I liked it 
so much I pre-ordered a 2017 frame and waited for 4 months).

Btw, if your size is 51cm and interested in trying out Appaloosa, I'm not 
too far from you.  PM me and come by sometime during the weekend.

Ash

On Friday, 11 August 2017 18:39:25 UTC-7, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> I'm new to Rivendell bikes and to this forum. I'm considering a SH or AHH. 
> This would be a all-around bike that used for commuting, light touring and 
> some occasional off road riding. These bikes seem similar. 
>
> Can you tell me the differences of these two bikes?
>
> For those of you that have both - your feedback would be really 
> appreciated. 
>
> Paul in Santa Clara, CA.
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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

[Ash [who works to bike]]

It is a beautiful and practical bike!

congrats Joe

I dig that color!

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 15:21:31 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Got it yesterday, did a few miles shakedown/adjust-stuff ride today. To 
> steal Velouria's blog name, what a lovely bike! It has the magical 
> smooth-but-maneuverable Riv ride, and boy is that low toptube nice at when 
> hopping on and off. After years of enjoying the low stepover of folding 
> bikes, I find the high tube on "regular" bikes a mostly unnecessary 
> obstacle, so this is wonderful (bonus: no bars crashing into tubes!).
>
> Details: Those Boscos reach WAY back; I'll be lopping an inch off before 
> the next ride. 
>
> The SunRace shifters are reversed 9-speed click/friction, and only the 
> right friction-only shifter has any kind of ratchet effect when pushing to 
> lower/easier cogs. The original ratchety shifters on the first Clem run had 
> a lot of clicks on both sides, both directions, and I found them hard to 
> operate on the demo Clem H I ride last year. To help explain what's new: if 
> you mounted these normally, they're the same as Shimano bar-ends with pure 
> friction front, index or pure friction rear. As installed they both work 
> great in friction mode.
>
> The gearing is perfect with 38-24 chainrings and pie plate 9-speed 
> cassette. Grant's right, it's hard to imagine why you would need a big ring 
> up front.
>
> Although the ride is similar - maybe a little more relaxed/cushy - to the 
> Appaloosa I sold, the vibe is VERY different. With the sit-up riding 
> position, mixte frame, and certainly with the green paint on this one, 
> there's very much a "Raleigh 3-speed" thing going on which I get a kick out 
> of. I rode in my standard costume of MUSA shorts, Pletscher T-shirt and Riv 
> fake-leather gloves..all good..but this is the first time my swoopy 
> Specialized helmet and Oakley M Frames felt completely ridiculous on a 
> bicycle. I think I need a beret! 
>
> I love the heart seatlug, which only works on mixte frames. It sits high, 
> proud and pretty, and leaves the impression (in my mind) of someone 
> creating a lug, then designing a bicycle around it. Here's some pics I took 
> today and yep...I forgot to do a lug closeup. Doh!
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/P4TKso4xaSWNDA6Y9
>
>

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[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I didn't think that many Joe's were up for sale.  At least one less now 
because I've decided to not sell mine.

The way this bike treats me on the kinds of roads and trails I ride on, I 
felt that I'm going to regret not having it even if frequency of me going 
out for rides were to be once a month or less (other than neighborhood 
grocery trips).

Besides, I didn't want to take it for granted that a bike like this (long 
wheelbase, number of eyelets/braze-on, 650b wheel, rim brake) of good 
quality would be available 3-4 years down the road when I'm going to need 
it.

Quite relieved that now the Appaloosa will be there in the stable anytime 
I'm up for a ride!!


On Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:34:27 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> I have one up for sale.   It is a solid, beautiful, fun bike.  Can be 
> configured in many, many ways.  My reason for selling is not getting enough 
> chances to ride it.  Looking forward to owning one again (or whatever 
> version Riv might have by then) after couple of years when situation 
> changes (detailed version of the story is in my 'for sale' thread)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 2 August 2017 16:45:22 UTC-7, Singlespeed Johnny wrote:
>>
>> i accidentally hijacked a for sale thread asking this and am sorry for 
>> that. 
>> buuut, i've noticed a lot of appaloosa's up for sale (including the one 
>> that i sold) and am wondering what's going on. sure, there's a lot of other 
>> rivs for sale here to, but given that the joe is such a new model it seems 
>> like the time produced (<2yrs) to number up for sale seems high.
>> i personally didn't care for the long wheelbase and the bike overall felt 
>> really sluggish to me. the mega long wheelbase coupled with a 2.1" max tire 
>> just didn't fit my style of riding. when i stood up to pedal and put power 
>> down, the bike didn't wanna go any more forward than me sitting and 
>> spinning which i am not used to. overall, i'm glad i got to experience 
>> owning a riv and wouldn't rule another one out in the future but would def 
>> stick to an atlantis or hunq.
>> why did you guys sell or are currently trying to sell yours?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I've decided to hold on to this bike :)

So, not for sale anymore!



On Friday, 21 July 2017 16:34:13 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Joe is a very nice bike.  My decision to part with it mostly has to do 
> with my riding 'opportunities'.  Between family, work and couple of other 
> things I've been involved in,  I only get to ride around the town.  My MTB 
> got stolen recently.  After that I'm afraid to take Joe if the trip 
> requires locking it (like going out for dinner/lunch).  I end up riding an 
> old road bike in those situation.  The thing is worth $100, so I don't tend 
> to think of the bike the whole time I'm at a dinner.  Also, the grocery 
> shops I frequent are too cramped to take the bike inside.  I just do not 
> feel comfortable locking the bike for even 15 minutes.  Just too many 
> thefts and vandalisms around.
>
> The 'need' I have now is an MTB for occasional rides on weekends.  So Hunq 
> is likely the next project.
>
> I'm hoping to have a bike like Joe again in couple of years when I will 
> have more chances for full day/multi day rides (kids need grow up a little 
> bit).  
>
> My wife keeps saying the bike looks 'too big' for me.  But that's not the 
> reason I'm selling it :)   
>
>
> On Friday, 21 July 2017 09:28:25 UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>>
>> Hh... I looked back through FS posts on this forum, nothing 
>> scientific, nothing formal, but I see a wide variety of bikes for sale, 
>> more Sam's, a few Homer's, but there are Atlantis, Cheviot's, Clem's, Betty 
>> Foy's, a Riv Road, a Roscoe, other non-Riv bikes.
>>
>> I know there was at least one person who had miscalculated a bit on using 
>> drop bars (on the Joe) and there have been times of financial or other 
>> need.  That said, I am pretty sure the Joe's do not come for sale any more 
>> often than other bikes, at least not on this forum.  I think there have 
>> been re-posts and bumps of specific bikes for sale and maybe that makes it 
>> seem so.
>>
>> Anyway, there are many reasons to sell a bike... Many of us are 
>> experimenters, try'ers of things and, at times, keeping that going 
>> sometimes demands the letting go of other bikes.  Also, sometimes the bike 
>> that might bring the most $$ return is the one that needs to go, based on 
>> circumstances, etc.  Though it is not true at the moment for me, there have 
>> been times when I realized the bike I rode the most was actually one of the 
>> least valuable (to others) just because of locking bikes up or otherwise 
>> putting bikes at risk.
>>
>> I will say that my Joe A., for me, right now, with my current needs and 
>> how I ride, it is hard to imagine a more useful, fun, adaptable bike.  With 
>> my set-up (Bullmoose bars) I wish it was a little less wide (and am working 
>> on that), but it fits me perfectly and brings a smile every time I ride it. 
>>  I have other bikes that might do specific things better, but none of my 
>> other bikes can seem to do what the Joe can do.  There have been a few 
>> times when I wish it were not so, as I am indeed the experimenter, and $$ 
>> are tied up in the Joe and the Cheviot.  But there it is, the Joe does 
>> everything I need.  Makes me smile, makes other people ask questions and 
>> want to ride themselves, hauls groceries, can handle trail or road, fits in 
>> whether fancy or rough  
>>
>> Anyway, I guess I would like to see more facts to back up the 
>> impressions... The truth may not set us free but it surely can help.
>>
>> Bob Lovejoy
>> Galesburg, IL
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: why so many joe's up for sale?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I have one up for sale.   It is a solid, beautiful, fun bike.  Can be 
configured in many, many ways.  My reason for selling is not getting enough 
chances to ride it.  Looking forward to owning one again (or whatever 
version Riv might have by then) after couple of years when situation 
changes (detailed version of the story is in my 'for sale' thread)



On Wednesday, 2 August 2017 16:45:22 UTC-7, Singlespeed Johnny wrote:
>
> i accidentally hijacked a for sale thread asking this and am sorry for 
> that. 
> buuut, i've noticed a lot of appaloosa's up for sale (including the one 
> that i sold) and am wondering what's going on. sure, there's a lot of other 
> rivs for sale here to, but given that the joe is such a new model it seems 
> like the time produced (<2yrs) to number up for sale seems high.
> i personally didn't care for the long wheelbase and the bike overall felt 
> really sluggish to me. the mega long wheelbase coupled with a 2.1" max tire 
> just didn't fit my style of riding. when i stood up to pedal and put power 
> down, the bike didn't wanna go any more forward than me sitting and 
> spinning which i am not used to. overall, i'm glad i got to experience 
> owning a riv and wouldn't rule another one out in the future but would def 
> stick to an atlantis or hunq.
> why did you guys sell or are currently trying to sell yours?

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[RBW] SimpleOne - amazing web special deal!

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Wish I was taller!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Used 700c and 26 fat (non-knobby) tires and long reach caliper/centerpull brakes

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Of course beyond certain thickness fat tires would become an unpleasant 
'drag'.  My experience is limited to 700x28, 700x32, 650x42 and 650x47.   
 In my style of riding and speeds (~12 MPH average), there is some 
increased effort with 47mm, but it is not that much.  Ride becomes more 
pleasant, which more than makes up for the reduced speed (ie, I keep 
peddling effort at the same level).  



On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:45:27 UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Dude, Under, over, whatever--never cross the bride. 
>
> Re: thick dry mud. Chances are good, if what you describe is what I think 
> you are describing, that a standard road tire would have been okay going 
> through that, cutting down to the pavement or otherwise getting some 
> bite--possibly even more control than a fatter tire. I really like fat 
> tires, and they do have lots of benefits, few drawbacks. But they are not 
> magic. And I am somewhat amused with the trend to go fatter and fatter and 
> fatter in every category. I can see how it happens--I got the Barlow Pass 
> tires a while back and my 32s look helplessly skinny. (Of course, even the 
> Barlows are shrimps compared to my Rat Traps.) But at some point things 
> plateau, and also the drawbacks start getting more pronounced. Especially, 
> in my opinion, in the 700c size.
>
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 3:33:27 PM UTC-4, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> Austin,
>>
>> You go several yards downhill, cross the bride from under and go up 
>> again. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Hi Adam, not sure if you got my PM.  I want those shifters please..

On Thursday, 27 July 2017 08:49:52 UTC-7, adam leibow wrote:
>
> glad you guys like this idea. i like the collective hashtag idea. 
> #650rivbob ?
>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-7, adam leibow wrote:
>>
>> I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, because I use instagram a 
>> lot, and sell alotta bike stuff. I post across several forums/google groups 
>> and find that sometimes I just want to see who, of my friends, would be 
>> interested in something I'm selling, so I encouraged my normal instagram 
>> followers to follow my selling account. 
>>
>> If you like instagram, I recommend this idea as it can be fun to have an 
>> inventory all in one place, or just follow me if you want to see what I 
>> have! I am hoping it encourages me to sell more; i've been a bit of a bike 
>> parts hoarder and could use some liquidation. 
>>
>> @adom_sale 
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/adom_sale/
>>
>> I'm hoping the relevance of this post will be found in the content of 
>> what I'm selling; it's not all rivendell related, but some or a lot of it 
>> should be. 
>>
>> thanks, !
>>
>> adam
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Used 700c and 26 fat (non-knobby) tires and long reach caliper/centerpull brakes

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Austin,

No worries.  Given how much folks in this group ride, I'm sure there enough 
used tires to go around :)

Appaloosa is my first experience with fat tires (if would consider 47 and 
50 as fat!).  I'd have a hard time going back.  Not just for comfort, but 
also safety.  There were two incidents recently that would have ended up in 
a bad crash if not for the tires.   One of them where a local trail goes 
under a freeway.  You go several yards downhill, cross the bride from under 
and go up again.  In order to make going up easier, I maintain the speed 
while I'm under the bridge.  On a sunny day, the contrast is too high for 
my eyes to notice details on the trail under the bridge. This time there 
was a thick layer of dried mud (2-3 days after the creek has flooded).  My 
Appaloosa with 47mm tire somehow cleared the dirt patch (it was scary 
though, I had no control of the bike).  If it was my road bike, I would 
have likely ended up in the creek.  

Now I advice all my friends to go fat.  (I also have a tendency to ask them 
to eat less carbs, so they become less fat themselves)





On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 06:39:54 UTC-7, Austin B wrote:
>
> This is a cool idea. I've thoughts of making my Sam more offroady and 
> putting the fattest tires with some tread on it. Been reading a lot on the 
> forum & online about Soma Cazaderos, SimWorks Homage, Marathon Supremes, 
> etc. But I prefer to test it out a bit before investing $120+ in new tires.
>
> Most curious about how well the Cazaderos ride. If anyone has an old pair 
> of 700x42 they're looking to toss or unload, let me know if I can make it 
> worth your while to box up and ship to me (of course I'll cover shipping 
> costs too). Or if you're in DC/Baltimore area, I might be able to meet up 
> with cash-in hand.
>
> Though please give Ash first right of refusal since he started the thread 
> on this.
>
> -Austin
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Used 700c and 26 fat (non-knobby) tires and long reach caliper/centerpull brakes

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Hi Philip,

I have a set of 650b wheels and a few different tires for them.  Figured I 
could give them a try if I found  calipers that have long enough reach.

-Ash



On Monday, 24 July 2017 21:49:14 UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I have a pair of Schwalbe Big Apples you can have. Maybe some other 700C 
> tires, but probably micro-knobbies. 
> I don't understand the request for a long reach caliper, though, since the 
> brake hole to rim distance is fixed by the bike. You also don't need to 
> rely on theoretical measurements, since you can actually measure the 
> clearances. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com 
>
> On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 11:30:43 AM UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:
>>
>> Want to experiment with fatter tires on my friend's hybrid and mountain 
>> bikes.  I want to see what's the fattest they can handle.  Figured I can 
>> buy and try some tires you are about to throw away, instead of relying on 
>> theoretical measurements.  
>>
>> The hybrid has calipers.  So we'd be interested in a long reach caliper 
>> as well.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] [song] The Ride

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One of my fav songs 

https://youtu.be/-dGcmTzFbY8

I've listened to it so many times, thought it is only fair that I'd shared 
it with the group!


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[RBW] WTB: Used 700c and 26 fat (non-knobby) tires and long reach caliper/centerpull brakes

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Want to experiment with fatter tires on my friend's hybrid and mountain 
bikes.  I want to see what's the fattest they can handle.  Figured I can 
buy and try some tires you are about to throw away, instead of relying on 
theoretical measurements.  

The hybrid has calipers.  So we'd be interested in a long reach caliper as 
well.


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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Joe is a very nice bike.  My decision to part with it mostly has to do with 
my riding 'opportunities'.  Between family, work and couple of other things 
I've been involved in,  I only get to ride around the town.  My MTB got 
stolen recently.  After that I'm afraid to take Joe if the trip requires 
locking it (like going out for dinner/lunch).  I end up riding an old road 
bike in those situation.  The thing is worth $100, so I don't tend to think 
of the bike the whole time I'm at a dinner.  Also, the grocery shops I 
frequent are too cramped to take the bike inside.  I just do not feel 
comfortable locking the bike for even 15 minutes.  Just too many thefts and 
vandalisms around.

The 'need' I have now is an MTB for occasional rides on weekends.  So Hunq 
is likely the next project.

I'm hoping to have a bike like Joe again in couple of years when I will 
have more chances for full day/multi day rides (kids need grow up a little 
bit).  

My wife keeps saying the bike looks 'too big' for me.  But that's not the 
reason I'm selling it :)   


On Friday, 21 July 2017 09:28:25 UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Hh... I looked back through FS posts on this forum, nothing 
> scientific, nothing formal, but I see a wide variety of bikes for sale, 
> more Sam's, a few Homer's, but there are Atlantis, Cheviot's, Clem's, Betty 
> Foy's, a Riv Road, a Roscoe, other non-Riv bikes.
>
> I know there was at least one person who had miscalculated a bit on using 
> drop bars (on the Joe) and there have been times of financial or other 
> need.  That said, I am pretty sure the Joe's do not come for sale any more 
> often than other bikes, at least not on this forum.  I think there have 
> been re-posts and bumps of specific bikes for sale and maybe that makes it 
> seem so.
>
> Anyway, there are many reasons to sell a bike... Many of us are 
> experimenters, try'ers of things and, at times, keeping that going 
> sometimes demands the letting go of other bikes.  Also, sometimes the bike 
> that might bring the most $$ return is the one that needs to go, based on 
> circumstances, etc.  Though it is not true at the moment for me, there have 
> been times when I realized the bike I rode the most was actually one of the 
> least valuable (to others) just because of locking bikes up or otherwise 
> putting bikes at risk.
>
> I will say that my Joe A., for me, right now, with my current needs and 
> how I ride, it is hard to imagine a more useful, fun, adaptable bike.  With 
> my set-up (Bullmoose bars) I wish it was a little less wide (and am working 
> on that), but it fits me perfectly and brings a smile every time I ride it. 
>  I have other bikes that might do specific things better, but none of my 
> other bikes can seem to do what the Joe can do.  There have been a few 
> times when I wish it were not so, as I am indeed the experimenter, and $$ 
> are tied up in the Joe and the Cheviot.  But there it is, the Joe does 
> everything I need.  Makes me smile, makes other people ask questions and 
> want to ride themselves, hauls groceries, can handle trail or road, fits in 
> whether fancy or rough  
>
> Anyway, I guess I would like to see more facts to back up the 
> impressions... The truth may not set us free but it surely can help.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

This is what it cost me to put together the bike

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-RvK1zoJmS_Ir0ATOa7B-KluwuTqN3f5eYsa1kBQIvU/edit?usp=sharing




On Friday, 21 July 2017 15:56:29 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Sorry, missed the price.
>
> Without saddle, wheels and tires:  $1650 (I will pick up half the shipping)
> Add $450 for wheels + tires.
>
> I have 3 sets of tires.  You can pick any
>
> WTB 650Bx47
> Pasela 650Bx1.75
> Schwalbe Almotions 650bx2.00
>
> Also, you have choice between ChocoNORM and Albatross.
>
> Thanks to folks who alerted me about the missing price.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Ash
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:09:19 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>>
>> Feels like I need a new project.  Likely Hunq this time.  
>>
>> The green Appaloosa (and all components) is in 'like new' condition. 
>>  About 300 miles.
>>
>> Available whole bike (minus saddle) or without wheels/tires.  PM me if 
>> you are interested.
>>
>> - Frame + headset + bottom bracket + seat post
>> - Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t 
>> - Nitto Choco-NORM Bar
>> - Origin8 Retro Classic Canti Brake Levers
>> - Microshit thumb shifters 9 speed
>> - Tektro CR710  Canti Brakes
>> - Shimano FD-M590 TopSwing Dual Pull Multi Clamp FD
>> - Shimano XT M772 Shadow 9-Speed RD
>> - Shimano M770 XT 9 Speed Cassette 11-34T
>> - Shimano Saint pedals
>> - Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0, 8cm
>> - SKS P50 fenders
>> - Rich-built wheel: Velocity Atlas 650B wheels, 36H + SP dynamo + Velo 
>> Orange Grand Cru Touring Hub 
>> - Pasela Protite 650Bx1.75 (LX-17PT2) tires
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Sorry, missed the price.

Without saddle, wheels and tires:  $1650 (I will pick up half the shipping)
Add $450 for wheels + tires.

I have 3 sets of tires.  You can pick any

WTB 650Bx47
Pasela 650Bx1.75
Schwalbe Almotions 650bx2.00

Also, you have choice between ChocoNORM and Albatross.

Thanks to folks who alerted me about the missing price.

Cheers,

-Ash




On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:09:19 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Feels like I need a new project.  Likely Hunq this time.  
>
> The green Appaloosa (and all components) is in 'like new' condition. 
>  About 300 miles.
>
> Available whole bike (minus saddle) or without wheels/tires.  PM me if you 
> are interested.
>
> - Frame + headset + bottom bracket + seat post
> - Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t 
> - Nitto Choco-NORM Bar
> - Origin8 Retro Classic Canti Brake Levers
> - Microshit thumb shifters 9 speed
> - Tektro CR710  Canti Brakes
> - Shimano FD-M590 TopSwing Dual Pull Multi Clamp FD
> - Shimano XT M772 Shadow 9-Speed RD
> - Shimano M770 XT 9 Speed Cassette 11-34T
> - Shimano Saint pedals
> - Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0, 8cm
> - SKS P50 fenders
> - Rich-built wheel: Velocity Atlas 650B wheels, 36H + SP dynamo + Velo 
> Orange Grand Cru Touring Hub 
> - Pasela Protite 650Bx1.75 (LX-17PT2) tires
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Feels like I need a new project.  Likely Hunq this time.  

The green Appaloosa (and all components) is in 'like new' condition.  About 
300 miles.

Available whole bike (minus saddle) or without wheels/tires.  PM me if you 
are interested.

- Frame + headset + bottom bracket + seat post
- Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t 
- Nitto Choco-NORM Bar
- Origin8 Retro Classic Canti Brake Levers
- Microshit thumb shifters 9 speed
- Tektro CR710  Canti Brakes
- Shimano FD-M590 TopSwing Dual Pull Multi Clamp FD
- Shimano XT M772 Shadow 9-Speed RD
- Shimano M770 XT 9 Speed Cassette 11-34T
- Shimano Saint pedals
- Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0, 8cm
- SKS P50 fenders
- Rich-built wheel: Velocity Atlas 650B wheels, 36H + SP dynamo + Velo 
Orange Grand Cru Touring Hub 
- Pasela Protite 650Bx1.75 (LX-17PT2) tires

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Re: [RBW] Re: Request for a safety review

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I started this mini project on Sunday, but quickly realized that it is not 
an option since I have canti brakes.

That Topeak pump looks nice, btw.

On Monday, 17 July 2017 11:15:20 UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> That was a road morph mini pump and it included the mount pads.  It was 
> similar to this one:
> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/products/mini-pumps/246-road-morph--g
>
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ash [who works to bike] <
> ash...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the help everyone!
>>
>> Orc, Joe and Deacon, understood the safety consideration here.
>>
>> Garth, you win the prize again!  Who woulda thought it goes underneath 
>> the bottle cage :)
>>
>> That's where I ended up mounting it for yesterday's trip.
>>
>> However, like others suggested, it looks like a clutter.  Perhaps it 
>> should go inside the tool bag.  Combination of not having a good bag and my 
>> tendency to always overpack, I can't find space for the pump in there.  
>> Having it mounted on the frame is sort of peace of mind (no risk of somehow 
>> leaving it  behind)
>>
>>
>> Tim,  did you acquire those frame mount clamps separately or those came 
>> with your pump.  My crappy pump came with only cage boss mounts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 17 July 2017 10:27:30 UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
>>> On  a Velo Orange Rando, I once mounted a mini pump behind the seat post 
>>> like this:
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>> Not sure if that is possible here, but it might be another option to 
>>> consider.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, LLM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Like this!
>>>>
>>>> <http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/923/E57aZs.jpg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 2:43:45 AM UTC-4, Ash [who works to bike] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Prepping my Appa for a long ride, I mounted the pump in the fork as 
>>>>> shown in pictures.   Any safety concerns with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> It came with a mount that fits bottle cage bosses.  All three sets of 
>>>>> them are taken.  So I was looking for place to bolt it in. There was this 
>>>>> option and then the midway rack braze-ons on seat stays.
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Request for a safety review

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Okay, I think the right move for me would be to zip-tie the pump to my 
tool/jacket/glove bag :)  

It's been a thousand or so miles since I started biking regularly.  All 
kinds of surfaces, different types of tire, but not single flat so far.  If 
this luck were to continue, the zip-tie would never need to be cut!   
 Small downside of this luck is that I don't think the pump until I've been 
riding for half hour.



On Tuesday, 18 July 2017 22:37:22 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> This is always true, Mark. The pump is always the first piece I toss in 
> (imagine thumbs up emoji here). 

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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I made a poor man's version of loop bar for my recent 6-hour trip by adding 
some old bar end grips to Alba. I think I used the loop area for about 20% 
of the times.  Ideally for a long frame like Appa with some load, the loop 
needs to be wider.   

I do think overall it looks ugly, but an option upright bar users can 
consider for long trips.  esp for those who feel the reach is not long 
enough with Chocos.



On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 22:01:16 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> I'm intrigued by the handlebar in this promo video.  Looks promising.  I 
> need a black handlebar for one of my bikes.
>
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/934648866/urbanx-convert-any-bike-to-an-electric-bike-in-60
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

This summer I did 3 longish rides so far on my Appaloosa-  Mt Diablo, Mt. 
Hamilton and yesterday from South Bay area over Santa Cruz mountains to 
coast - 55 miles.   As luck would have it, any day I had any spare time was 
90 degrees plus.  It was quite uncomfortable and difficult, given my lack 
of practice and endurance.  However, I didn't face any trouble during the 
ride or the day after.  I do two things (1) bring extra water and a bottle 
or two of sports drink (2) Take many breaks.  

Some portions of these rides (while climbing, where my speed is  like 4 
miles per hour) I took off the helmet and wore a hiking hat, which helped 
me stay cooler.  My thoughts same as EasyRider: 100 deg might be my cutoff 
point.



On Monday, 17 July 2017 06:50:32 UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> The 5 day forecast here in KC is for mid to upper 90s (94 being the 
> "coolest" high temp, 98 being the hottest) with lows of mid to upper 70s, 
> sunny, 50-60% humidity and zero chance of rain. Light winds for this area, 
> always out of the SW. Kansas City Ultra Cycling has moved the start time 
> for Friday's Belgium Day 100K ride from 9:00 am to 6:30 am to beat some of 
> the heat. 
>
> Personally, there are zero days per year that I consider too hot to ride. 
> I sweat like crazy and I seem to hold up to the heat very well, although my 
> fitness is not where I'd like and I need to lose weight, so I may not ride 
> the Belgian ride, but I'll be on my bike every day, with rides between 15 
> and at least 50 miles. I am, admittedly short on common sense, though. 
>
> Anyway, I know it's hot everywhere so how about you guys? I know Riv's 
> don't melt because HQ is over 100 degrees quite often. Stay hydrated out 
> there! I'm going shopping online for an asbestos chamois!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Request for a safety review

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks for the help everyone!

Orc, Joe and Deacon, understood the safety consideration here.

Garth, you win the prize again!  Who woulda thought it goes underneath the 
bottle cage :)

That's where I ended up mounting it for yesterday's trip.

However, like others suggested, it looks like a clutter.  Perhaps it should 
go inside the tool bag.  Combination of not having a good bag and my 
tendency to always overpack, I can't find space for the pump in there. 
 Having it mounted on the frame is sort of peace of mind (no risk of 
somehow leaving it  behind)


Tim,  did you acquire those frame mount clamps separately or those came 
with your pump.  My crappy pump came with only cage boss mounts.



On Monday, 17 July 2017 10:27:30 UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> On  a Velo Orange Rando, I once mounted a mini pump behind the seat post 
> like this:
> [image: Inline image 1]
> Not sure if that is possible here, but it might be another option to 
> consider.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:13 PM, LLM > 
> wrote:
>
>> Like this!
>>
>> <http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320x240q90/923/E57aZs.jpg>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 2:43:45 AM UTC-4, Ash [who works to bike] 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Prepping my Appa for a long ride, I mounted the pump in the fork as 
>>> shown in pictures.   Any safety concerns with this?
>>>
>>> It came with a mount that fits bottle cage bosses.  All three sets of 
>>> them are taken.  So I was looking for place to bolt it in. There was this 
>>> option and then the midway rack braze-ons on seat stays.
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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Sadly I won't have an opportunity to spend another $50 on handlebars because 
Metropolis because it is 31.8mm clamp diameter.   (I don't know if a dirt drop 
like quill stem with 31.8 clamp)

Make it $170, because I would have tried Jones H loop too if it was 25.4

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[RBW] Re: Choco norm vs Albas

[Ash [who works to bike]]

As others have mentioned, what's most comfortable would depend on the bike, 
your PBH to torso/arm length, type of riding, age, etc.

On my App I initially went with Choco-NORM.  You hunch about the corners is 
absolutely correct.  Wrist position is super ergonomic there.  

After a month or so I increasingly became annoyed with how the bike looked. 
 For Choco-NORMs I had to raise the stem all the way up.  It looked comical 
especially given that these 1" quill stems are so 'petite'.  I do wish this 
bike had much longer head tube (which would make the top tube more sloping, 
which in turn would make the bike looks even cooler, IMO).

Recently I acquired an Albatross to try out.   The bike looks much better! 
 After about 10 days of riding I've decided to stay with it.   I do have 
Map Ahearne, Surly Open Bar, etc in my list to try, but I'm not going back 
to Choco.

With Albatross, the forward position is a bit more aggressive.  I find that 
useful as well.  While hand position at the corners is not optimal in terms 
of ergonomics,  I find the riding position at grips slightly more 
comfortable (because Albatross bar ends are slightly more open/angled)

That reminds me, I need to make an FS post for the Choco bar.


On Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:40:46 UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Anyone tried both?
>
> They both fit MTB sized levers which is good for my v-brakes. The choco 
> looks more comfortable in the pictures. I especially like the flatter shape 
> of the "corners". 
>
> I'd love to hear your real world experience before spending the $$ to 
> switch.
>
> Jay
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

FSA Metropolis looks worth trying!

Added to my ever-growing handlebar bucket list.


On Thursday, 13 July 2017 13:09:44 UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Sooo, for those playing along at home, it is definitely the Surly Open 
> Bar?  I am the queen of ALt bars and can't seem to try enough of them.  My 
> next bar is going to be the FSA Metropolis on my Seven Café Racer replacing 
> the Bosco bars.  Definitely not the Ahearnes - although that is nice one.
>
> On Thursday, July 13, 2017 at 3:19:41 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>>   Hooray !  Glad you know now Ash.  I did forget that it's black only, 
>> sort of a bummer but not a deal breaker on it's own. As for the logo, they 
>> are ED coated black so the logo is likely painted on top of that. Some 
>> acetone, goof-off, wd-40 or finger nail polish should remove it. 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Thanks Ron!


Wow that's quite a knowledge base on ergonomic handlebars.


Just wondering how many of them I will end up trying!



On Thursday, 13 July 2017 10:10:30 UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> here's the definitive article:  
> http://oldglorymtb.com/round-up-alternative-or-alt-mountain-bike-handlebars/
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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Bingo!   You get the prize.

Now I definitely need one of these.  Just wish they had avoided the 
temptation to use the handlebar like a billboard to print their logo..

Thank you Garth. 

On Thursday, 13 July 2017 03:40:33 UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> I recognize it, that's a Surly Open bar. Note the larger curve radius and 
> the greater sweep back angle(53deg) than the Ahearne bar(41deg). It's also 
> wider @ 66cm.  If I get a Clem or -L this is thar bar I will get. It comes 
> in back or silver with or w/o 40mm rise, and it's steel so I can run bar 
> end brake levers. I had seen many a photos and angles of this bar over the 
> last months so it was an easy spot. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

MAP/Ahearne was my first suspect.  But this handlebar has wider straight 
region in the center (i.e. left and right of the clamp).

Hope it is not an optical illusion I'm seeing.



On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 22:06:09 UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
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> Looks like the MAP/Ahearne bar would fit the bill. It comes in black. 
>
> -J
>

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