Re: [RBW] who needs carbon? (but needs capital letters and paragraphs)
no comment On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:11 PM, James Valiensi wrote: Hi, That's great! I love the way steel bikes ride too. Cheers! On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:52 PM, dpco wrote: six of us rode the 100k healdsburg century this weekend together. our goal was to average 18+ mph( ride time). i like to ride my roadeo on these rides because: 1) i am extremely comfortable on the bike ; 2) the bike has the uncanny combination of being extremely stable on downhills and carves turns like a mini cooper ; and,3) my roadeo is a cool bike. after leaving the start, we eventually settled into a 20-22mph cruise and were easily above 18 average into the first stop with everyone( 2men, 4 women, ages 53-59 ) feeling great. leaving the stop we slowly got up to our pace and when we hit the hills we would slow to a pace comfortable to the slowest climber. we rode like this until about we made the turn towards home and had, predominantly, a tailwind. we climbed faster and picked the speed on the flats and ended up with an 18.2 average. nobody got dropped. at the end we were tired, but everyone was smiling like a bunch of kids. it just can't get any better. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] snotty responce
seriously, i could give nat's ass, but the response to my ride in the healdsburg from ? regarding my typing skills is B.S.. i am a retired real estate developer with an economics degree from cal. your friend should think a little before he tries to embolden his education stasis. i really enjoy my riv's and grant and the guys and gals at riv, but some of the riv riders are just too much. the reality is that i don't race, but i will never ride with many of the riv folks. but, i don't get a big charge of making fun of them. and, believe me, riv owners are an easy target. don c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: another downside to carbon fiber bikes?
i have to comment on this. my rivendell( 59cm roadeo) has a very short distance from the bb to the front axle, actually shorter than many mcrb's. as a result, i suffer from tco. i don't care. the ride and handling are superb. designing a bike that handles just right is an art( and there are tradeoffs). don c. On Mar 22, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: On Mar 22, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Christopher Paul wrote: I am riding steel and titanium bikes now with long wheel bases and feel more secure. My friends accident made me wonder, would she have lost control had she been riding a non carbon fiber bike? Have there been any studies on this? I don't think its just my imagination that carbon fiber bikes have a greater propensity for losing control than non carbon fiber bikes. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Long wheelbases are more stable. I think that's the key here, not the frame material. Racing bike with short rake and steep head angle, putting the front wheel closer to the rider's center of gravity. And maybe other issues, such as position on the bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
i don't have any tech info regarding tubing. but, i sold my 60cm rambouillet and later bought a roadeo. the ram was overbuilt for my riding. the fit was perfect. the roadeo fits my riding. it just feels better on club rides( fast up short hills ). the stability of the ram is not missing. sincerely, don c. On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:12 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: Curious whether the butts and bellies of the Roadeo are same, or lighter gauge, than the Rambouillet. Does any member of the tribe have data? thanks TTM/RL 531 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: is it ok to mention i saw a specialized tigged double steel allez?
the reach is too long! --- On Fri, 12/18/09, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: From: eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net Subject: [RBW] Re: is it ok to mention i saw a specialized tigged double steel allez? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:50 PM i love lugs, and am a fan of riv...and wouldn't be interesting to see Specialized do this bike with well thought out geo and parts? On Dec 18, 5:53 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: They screwed up the gearing and the shifter style. For not much more dough, this bike could have come with much more useful gearing and shifters on the handlebar (bar ends), and it would have probably appealled better to the people who'd likely stop to notice it. It's a really nice frame, and I think they messed up the complete bike. To keep this on-topic, I think this underscores the thought they put into things at Rivendell. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net Sent: Dec 18, 2009 4:57 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] is it ok to mention i saw a specialized tigged double steel allez? in an lbs window today. not my geo, not my parts, but what a nicely really nicely tigged shiny red frameset. downtube shifters, etc. did i shiny bright red and almost no bumps in those joints http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=45678eid=4350 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drivetrain question... AHH with 9 vs 10 speeds...
i have a rival setup on my hampsten with a 50/34 crankset. i tried my friend's ird 12/30 cassette and it did not work very well. the sram road groups are not designed for low gears.don c. --- On Sat, 11/14/09, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Drivetrain question... AHH with 9 vs 10 speeds... To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 7:53 PM Is there enough chain wrap with the Rival rear derailer to run the XX 36T cassette? There's also an 11-32T XX cassette out there that you could try. Presuming you don't cross-chain that could work??? You could also go down one size to a 33T small ring, which isn't a lot of change (3%), but might be just the difference you need??? http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/chainrings/110.html On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Yep, ditch the Rival shifters, cassette, rear derailleur, 10s chain. Sounds like you have an adequate 9s cassette already. With a Deore-ish rear derailleur, Shimano 9s bar-ends, and a 9s chain, you may keep the double crank and be satisfied with a 34/34 low gear and spend only $150 or so to get there (assuming you do your own wrenching). If you still want to go lower, then you can spring for the Sugino XD or whatever triple, appropriate bb, (and MAYBE a triple fder), but you will already be prepared with your shifters, etc. The 10s chain will work on a 9s cassette in friction, but I've never been satisfied with friction shifting and 9s because the shifter ratchets start to act like faux-indexing, which is bad. On Nov 14, 8:37 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all for the great responses and ideas. Here are some more questions based on those... - I had not considered the alternative of going to a triple crankset; initially Mark suggested to keep the double for the lower Q factor, but I don't know how much of an issue that would really be for me. I never have any trouble with my triple crankset on my mountain bike. However, this option brings up the following issues: * Need to change the bar-end shifters, the Sram won't be compatible with the triple crankset - not a big deal... * Will the 10 speed chain work smoothly with the triple crankset that is designed for 9 speed or fewer chains? 10 speed chains are narrower - conversely, will a 9 speed chain work on the 10 speed cogset? I don't think so, it might get stuck as the space between the cogs is narrower as well... That would mean, if I got it all straight, that probably the best solution would be to go with a triple crankset and a regular Shimano 9 speed cassette and other standard parts. Sell the Shimano Rival drivetrain to a roadie looking to upgrade to 10 speeds (I have the integrated brake/shifter levers as well) and gain the flexibility of easily customizing a Shimano 9 speed drivetrain. Did I get that right? The kind of hills I want to climb are in the San Francisco Bay area... Highway 84 to Skyline, Old La Honda, Mount Diablo, etc. Some of them I could climb now, but on the brink of blowing out and that is no fun at all... :-) I'm going back to the calculator and craig's list... :-) René On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Richard rsv...@netzero.net wrote: Sorry about thinking you can get a Shimano 10-speed cassette in the range you want. However, Interloc Racing Design (IRD) does make a 10- speed Shimano compatible cassette, although shifting might not be as precise as with a Shimano cassette. On Nov 14, 8:06 pm, Richard rsv...@netzero.net wrote: I'm using a Shimano 13/25 10-speed cassette with my Rival shifters, front and rear derailleurs, compact crank and chain. From what I've read about the SRAM XX rear derailleur, it appears to be compatible with other 10-speed SRAM road groups and should also work fine with any Shimano 10-speed cassette. If such is the case, you should be able to get a new SRAM XX rear derailleur and a new Shimano 10-speed cassette at a cost that also should come in at less than $500.00. I apologize if I'm not correctly understanding your objective. Good luck. Richard On Nov 14, 6:51 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Even though this may be a polarizing subject, I'd like to get solid arguments to answer this question and support a decision: When I bought my AHH frame, I built it up with the Sram Rival 10 speed drivetrain I had on my Gunnar. I just bought the Sram aluminum bar-end shifters and used the other parts: - Compact crankset 34/50 - 11/28 10 speed cassette - Sram Rival front rear derailers. At the time, I was told that to make climbs easier, I could go with the newer 11-36 Sram XX rear cassette (I'm 264 lbs now). Researching prices, however, shows that I'd
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
you know pete, i have an ebiso road. that could be a great bike for you.don c. --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:12 PM My current bike is a Ram, but I'm thinking about a custom Ebisu for my next frame. On Sep 2, 3:40 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: $2k for a Riv/Waterford Roadie or $1.5k for a Ebisu Road. Discuss --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road
i have both an ebiso road and a ram. the ebiso is much stiffer than the ram. also, because it has old-fashioned campy rear dropouts, it is difficult to mount large tires. also, you could install std reach brakes, but the brake bridges are too close for large tires. it appears that the new roadeo is much more flexible than the ebiso road.don --- On Wed, 9/2/09, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: From: usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadie vs Ebisu Road To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 5:07 PM I posed the question because I already have a Rambouillet and I've been thinking of getting a bike with a more aggressive geometry to built up as a fast bike. When I saw the geometry on the Roadeo I worried that it wasn't sufficiently different from the Ram also the cost was a bit steep, so I thought of the Ebisu Road which looks plenty aggressive while still taking standard reach brakes and having good tyre clearance. I'm now dreaming of an Ebisu Road with some dura- ace hubs, mavic open pros, and a sugino alpina or TA carmina crank --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: toptube length on saluki?
the only thing is that the toptube is measured along its top horizontal line. thats after the shallow headtube is taken into consideration. and, because of the necessary increase in fork rake, there will be more toe clip space. it just seems to me that the saluki is a long bike relative to the riv traditional geo. don c. --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Subject: [RBW] Re: toptube length on saluki? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:47 PM Don, I'm not Grant, but I can hazard a couple of guesses. The longer TT provides more room for fat tires and fenders on the Saluki, with less toe overlap. The intended owner for the sportier Ram would probably be more likely to tolerate a bit of overlap than the presumably more touring-oriented Saluki owner. The shallower head angle of the Saluki actually brings the stem back a bit towards the rider. That reduces the reach to the bars making the TT act a bit shorter than it measures. The taller the stem, the more that effect will be seen. The hypothetical Ram owner is likely to have a more sporting bent and keep the bars a tad lower, which moves the bars further forward and lengthens the reach. So, the 'luki gets a longer TT. Sound reasonable? Bill On May 13, 7:19 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: to grant, why is the toptube on a 58cm saluki .5cm longer than a 60cm ram? don c. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: noodle bars
patrick, i agree about saddle position, but my case is unique. i have rotated scoliosis, degenerate disc disease, and severe arthritis. if i sit too upright, i put too much pressure on my lower back, so, i try to balance my position on my bike between too low and too high. i do a lot of core work and upper body work in the gym to compensate for my situation. everybody is different. don --- On Thu, 4/16/09, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:20 PM On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Don: No good discovery goes unpunished. Once you've Noodled, you can't go back. I tried Noodles and didn't like them; too deep and too long. I replaced them with similarly wide Salsa Bell Laps which I find much more to my liking. This is for my mountain bike. They are far too wide for my road bikes. As for the ramp, the Nitto 185s have a very short and -- since I obey Heaven and keep my hooks perfectly level -- very slanted ramp, but that doesn't bother me (and I don't wear gloves); I think, once again, that the principal key to hand comfort is saddle position. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: blue rambo for sale
sold --- On Mon, 3/23/09, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Subject: [RBW] Re: blue rambo for sale To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 9:02 PM on 3/23/09 10:23 AM, dpco at dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: i have a blue rambouillet frameset w/ ultegra headset for sale. size 60cm. excellent condition, no dents, just a few scratches from normal use. Price and (general) location? -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sheldon Brown's Ramboillet up on ebay
why isn't someone thinking about the significance of sheldon in the current scheme of things. i.e. physical fitness, co2, and whatever. someone should call the local u.s. rep from his district. sheldon has a legacy that will live on. i am a former golfer with back problems that decided to ride a bike in 1984 after watching alexi grewal win the olympic road race. i replaced golf and running with cycling and have never looked back. i have always appreciated sheldon's articles and think that they will be relevent to cycling for many years. sincerely, don compton --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Sheldon Brown's Ramboillet up on ebay To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:41 PM Why isn't Harris buying them and hanging them on the ceiling? That would be quite a few expensive bikes for a bike shop to buy for decoration. On Feb 13, 8:53 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Why isn't Harris buying them and hanging them on the ceiling? On Feb 13, 4:08 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Yea, from what I've read it is his wife. She has been periodically listing his bikes and some random items. I completely agree with you David. Each time I see one of his bikes up, I always head to his archives (again) to check out the specs and it's always read with a heavy heart. My wife knows exactly which one of my friends to contact regarding my bikes in case of my demise. Scary. Ride, live, love. Every day. On Feb 13, 4:11 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the seller's name, I'm guessing it is his wife... can't imagine how terrible it must be to go through selling off his stuff. My wife and I have talked about it a bit, and we've both come to the conclusion that it's something we don't want to have to do anytime soon (to say the least). On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this. Whoever is selling it doesn't have Rivendell on the auction. My key word search didn't pull it up. Nice bike if anyone is looking for a 58cm Rambouillet... link here:* http://tinyurl.com/bafudt* On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:43 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Just noticed his Ram popped up on ebay. Thought it might be of interest here. Item number: 150326739775 -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
