Re: [RBW] Re: Iso Mark's rack.

[Hugh Smitham]

Kim,

I appreciate the info. I was looking for something used first before I
purchased new.

Hugh

On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 7:44 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Hugh,
> Here is one from Alex's Cycle for $133.00, plus three day shipping. I have
> ordered from them twice without incident or complaints and would not
> hesitate to order from them again.
>
>
> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-m1-rivendell-marks-rack-front-rear-1?srsltid=AfmBOopAr6kRcV9H0-KyTv_kI3mW-HCRD3OeLqjC-dPWrsBW7WIUFcFZ
>
> Kim Hetzel.
> On Saturday, October 26, 2024 at 5:44:08 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> HI Group, wondering if anyone has a Mark's rack they're not using anymore?
>>
>> Hopefully you have one with uncut stays? But not necessary.
>>
>> Dm me if you do?
>>
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[RBW] Iso Mark's rack.

[Hugh Smitham]

HI Group, wondering if anyone has a Mark's rack they're not using anymore?

Hopefully you have one with uncut stays? But not necessary. 

Dm me if you do?

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Re: [RBW] FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Sold

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 4:16 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety
> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any
> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>
> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>
> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double
> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>
> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT
> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel
> skewers.
>
> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur,
> Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm
> length 165mm.
>
> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>
> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>
> Headset: FSA
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork
> grips.
>
> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>
> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>
> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight
> mounted to marks rack.
>
> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>
> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The
> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>
> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb
> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I
> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as
> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up,
> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200
> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>
> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king
> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can
> discuss an additional price?
>
> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the
> $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle”
> in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of
> packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it
> could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to
> Hawaii or Alaska.
>
> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check.
>
>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Bump

On Saturday, September 21, 2024 at 4:16:23 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety 
> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any 
> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>
> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>
> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double 
> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>
> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT 
> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel 
> skewers.
>
> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur, 
> Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm 
> length 165mm.
>
> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>
> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>
> Headset: FSA
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork 
> grips.
>
> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>
> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>
> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight 
> mounted to marks rack.
>
> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>
> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The 
> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>
> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb 
> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I 
> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as 
> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up, 
> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200 
> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>
> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king 
> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can 
> discuss an additional price?
>
> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the 
> $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle” 
> in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of 
> packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it 
> could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to 
> Hawaii or Alaska.
>
> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check. 
>
>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Bump

On Saturday, September 21, 2024 at 4:16:23 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety 
> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any 
> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>
> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>
> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double 
> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>
> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT 
> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel 
> skewers.
>
> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur, 
> Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm 
> length 165mm.
>
> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>
> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>
> Headset: FSA
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork 
> grips.
>
> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>
> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>
> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight 
> mounted to marks rack.
>
> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>
> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The 
> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>
> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb 
> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I 
> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as 
> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up, 
> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200 
> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>
> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king 
> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can 
> discuss an additional price?
>
> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the 
> $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle” 
> in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of 
> packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it 
> could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to 
> Hawaii or Alaska.
>
> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check. 
>
>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Edit and bump. The rear cassette is in fact a 12-36t. My apologies for the
mistake.
~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 4:16 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety
> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any
> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>
> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>
> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double
> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>
> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT
> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel
> skewers.
>
> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur,
> Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm
> length 165mm.
>
> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>
> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>
> Headset: FSA
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork
> grips.
>
> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>
> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>
> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight
> mounted to marks rack.
>
> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>
> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The
> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>
> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb
> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I
> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as
> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up,
> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200
> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>
> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king
> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can
> discuss an additional price?
>
> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the
> $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle”
> in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of
> packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it
> could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to
> Hawaii or Alaska.
>
> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check.
>
>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

Edit: The Gravel King tires are 48mm not 42mm. My apologies.

Hugh

On Sat, Sep 21, 2024, 4:16 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> 2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety
> before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any
> questions and provide additional photos upon request.
>
> Wheels: 650b tubeless.
>
> Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double
> butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.
>
> Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT
> Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel
> skewers.
>
> 9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur,
> Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm
> length 165mm.
>
> Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R
>
> Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.
>
> Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.
>
> Headset: FSA
>
> Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork
> grips.
>
> Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.
>
> Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.
>
> Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight
> mounted to marks rack.
>
> Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm
>
> I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The
> cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.
>
> I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb
> build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I
> also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as
> there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up,
> it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200
> miles so all the parts have many miles left.
>
> Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king
> cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can
> discuss an additional price?
>
> In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the
> $90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle”
> in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of
> packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it
> could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to
> Hawaii or Alaska.
>
> Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check.
>
>  Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79
>
>
>
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[RBW] FS 2018 Rivendell Atlantis 53cm

[Hugh Smitham]

2018 MIT Atlantis 53 cm $3300 Please read description in its entirety 
before responding. If I have left anything out, I’m happy to answer any 
questions and provide additional photos upon request.

Wheels: 650b tubeless.

Front: Velo Orange Voyager rims, Son 28 hub 32 spoke, DT Swiss double 
butted spokes, tires Panaracer Gravel King 42mm, DT swiss steel skewers.

Rear: Velo Orange Voyager rims, White Industries rear hub 32 spoke, DT 
Swiss double butted spokes, tire Panaracer Gravel King 42mm DT swiss steel 
skewers.

9 speed Drive train: Shimano XT cassette 11-42, Rear XT shadow derailleur, 
Front XT derailleur, Crank, white Industries silver VBC 42/20 crank arm 
length 165mm.

Brakes: Paul Motolites Silver w/ Koolstop salmon pads F&R

Brake Levers: Paul Love Levers Silver.

Shifters: Paul Shimano Thumbies with Shimano XT shifters.

Headset: FSA

Handlebars: Nitto Choco Bars 54cm wide/25.4 clamp with Ergon GC1 cork grips.

Stem: Nitto lugged 1” quill stem 120mm length.

Nitto Marks rack silver rear mounted.

Lighting: Busch + Muller 1Q-X Dynamo headlight with B+M rear taillight 
mounted to marks rack.

Seat post: Nitto S83 post not sure on length? Most likely 300mm

I used Helicopter tape to adhere the dynamo cabling to the top tube. The 
cabling on the Marks rack is electrical tape.

I am not interested in parting out this bike. I believe this is a superb 
build and the discerning buyer will appreciate it as is. During the build I 
also applied liberal amounts of frame saver. The frame is not perfect, as 
there is a scratch on the top tube which the previous owner touched up, 
it’s actually difficult to see. Total miles on this build is around 200 
miles so all the parts have many miles left.

Gilles Berthod saddle does not come with bike, nor do the pedals, king 
cages or handlebar bell. If interested in including those items we can 
discuss an additional price?

In addition to the cost of the bike, the buyer will be responsible for the 
$90 packing fee. Which will be professionally packed by “Around the Cycle” 
in Pasadena, and the shipping cost using Bike Flights. The process of 
packing could be up to week before shipping depending on their workload, it 
could be sooner. Shipping will only be in the CONUS no overseas shipping to 
Hawaii or Alaska.

Payment: I will accept PayPal Friends & Family or a personal check. 

 Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fpygJRW758BPLcD79

 

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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

updated list with price decreases: 

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:52:03 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> updated list with price decreases: 
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>  updated list with price decreases: 
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
>> $200 pending
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an updated list: 
>>>
>>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - 
>>> QR5x100/130mm - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less 
>>> than 100 miles $200
>>>
>>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>>
>>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>>
>>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>>
>>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>>
>>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>>
>>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>>
>>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>>
>>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

updated list with price decreases: 

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35

Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

>  updated list with price decreases: 
>
> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
> $200 pending
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Here's an updated list: 
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
>> $200
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>
>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

Neale,

Thank you for the kind endorsement,  I'll echo the same endorsement for
Neale. Very pleasant to deal with. Also enjoyed ogling his Atlantis.

Hugh

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:21 PM tellyoutoday  wrote:

> Following up to give Hugh a solid endorsement. Turns out he's local and we
> work a few blocks from each other - picked up some cranks from him
> yesterday in stellar shape and would not hesitate to transact with him in
> the future.
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>  updated list with price decreases:
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles
>> $200 pending
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an updated list:
>>>
>>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard -
>>> QR5x100/130mm - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less
>>> than 100 miles $200
>>>
>>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>>
>>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>>
>>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>>
>>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>>
>>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>>
>>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>>
>>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50
>>>
>>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

 updated list with price decreases: 

Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm - 
Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
$200 pending

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35

Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6


On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Here's an updated list: 
>
> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
> $200
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>
> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

Here's an updated list: 

Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm - 
Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
$200

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40

White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending

Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

I missed a few parts. 

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5

IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> HI Folks,
>
> Selling some bike parts I have no use for. Some are brand new, never used 
> or slightly used. I will accept payment via PayPal Friends and Family. If 
> that doesn't work for you, I will accept a check in the mail. I will answer 
> questions if I can but ultimately, it's on you to make sure the part is 
> right for your application. If you need additional pictures let me know
>
> When reaching out to me about a part(s) please direct message me. Don't 
> respond to this post in the general comments. I don’t want to clog the 
> forum with responses. Use the reply to author, you can find that in the 
> upper right three dots I will need your full shipping address. Pirate ship 
> requires the full address. Once I know what you want, I will look for the 
> smallest box and get you the shipping cost. If it's crazy I will consider 
> reducing the price if it makes sense. I will not ship outside the CONUSA. 
> Alaska and Hawaii possibly?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
> $200
>
> Brooks Champion Flyer (Sprung) Tan (used) $50
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>
> FSA 1” headset (Used) $20
>
> White Industries VBC Outer 44T (Used) $40
>
> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>
> Shimano BL-R550-R 22.2 Brake Levers Silver (Used) $30
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Silver Down Tube shifters Used missing a washer( Riv has replacements for  
> $1) $20
>
> Hopefully, I am able to share this album? Let me know?
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>

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[RBW] Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

HI Folks,

Selling some bike parts I have no use for. Some are brand new, never used 
or slightly used. I will accept payment via PayPal Friends and Family. If 
that doesn't work for you, I will accept a check in the mail. I will answer 
questions if I can but ultimately, it's on you to make sure the part is 
right for your application. If you need additional pictures let me know

When reaching out to me about a part(s) please direct message me. Don't 
respond to this post in the general comments. I don’t want to clog the 
forum with responses. Use the reply to author, you can find that in the 
upper right three dots I will need your full shipping address. Pirate ship 
requires the full address. Once I know what you want, I will look for the 
smallest box and get you the shipping cost. If it's crazy I will consider 
reducing the price if it makes sense. I will not ship outside the CONUSA. 
Alaska and Hawaii possibly?

 

 

Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm - 
Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
$200

Brooks Champion Flyer (Sprung) Tan (used) $50

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40

FSA 1” headset (Used) $20

White Industries VBC Outer 44T (Used) $40

White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175

Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80

Shimano BL-R550-R 22.2 Brake Levers Silver (Used) $30

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Silver Down Tube shifters Used missing a washer( Riv has replacements for  
$1) $20

Hopefully, I am able to share this album? Let me know?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Please help me identify this part?

[Hugh Smitham]

Thank you Bill.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 10:05 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> the search terms to find the complete product would be "IRD quill stem
> shifter mount"
>
> Here's a link
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/54020-ird-shifter-mount-quill-stem-microshift-3884#attr=
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 10:04:34 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yes and no.  You can get the stem shifters as a complete setup at
>> SomaFabShop for $120.
>>
>> What you have pictured is missing a lot of parts.  The shifters
>> themselves, and the posts to which the shifters attach, and the square stop
>> washers.  Somebody with a substantial parts-box could restore them to
>> whole, no question.  The piece you have is the one unique piece.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 9:31:58 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe. I figured it was a Silver. Are these even produced these
>>> days?
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, 11:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rivendell stem mount for Silver1 shifters. Nice piece, wish I'd kept
>>>> mine.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screenshot_20230805_235249.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 11:24:39 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I purchased this stem shifter a while ago and never used it. I don't
>>>>> see any marking either?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Hugh Smitham]

Garth,

Yes, F&F works but there are some buyers that want the buyer protection not
offered via F&F.

On the other hand, if that becomes an issue I could just not sell to that
individual buyer.

Hugh

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 1:16 PM Garth  wrote:

> If you use friends and family this does not apply. I've only ever used F&F
> myself and without issue.
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[RBW] Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi,

I'm considering selling a box full of parts I no longer need. In the past I 
have taken payment via PayPal which was convenient for both the buyer and 
myself. However, now I believe all 3rd party banking services will be 
required to issue a 1099k for anything over $600 in a calendar year. I 
thought this was going into effect last year but I think it wasn't 
implemented.  I think this year is different. 

How are people dealing with this these days? I am considering only 
accepting a check for payment, this will obviously slow the process down as 
I would not ship the product till it clears. 

I understand that you can report to the IRS that you sold said items for a 
loss but that requires additionally accounting, which I can do but it seems 
tedious. 

Perhaps, I'm making too big a deal about this?

Anyway, I appreciate any constructive feedback.

Best Regards,

Hugh

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[RBW] ISO Simworks Black Rhonda Stem.

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi,

Looking for the above mentioned stem in black, preferably in a 120mm but 
might consider 110mm. Dm me if you have one lying around you're not using.

Hugh 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Haha, good one Andy. This hue has been a desire since I saw Dave riding a
Masi in said hue on the big screen way back yonder. Not creamsicle but
burnt Appaloosa orange, Rambouillet's are the bees knees :)

I'm unsure a Onyx hub is in my future?

Seems you have some (less than ideal) experience with the xtr rear
mechanical?

Cheers,

Hugh

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 5:00 AM ascpgh  wrote:

> Nice hue, Hugh! That's an Atlantis advertising genetics it shares with an
> early stablemate in that color. Not creamsicle, but it doesn't take much to
> conjure Rambouillet.
>
> Nice build, I'm sure eager for your impressions of the Onyx hubs,
> especially after you've ridden some miles and several sets of tires. I love
> the good news of parts that are really worthy and hope those live up to
> your feelings for your XTR RD.
>
> Andy Cheatham
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 1:12:38 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Morning Bill,
>>
>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build
>> was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick.
>> I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>
>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>
>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors
>> of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But
>> it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
>> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait!
>>> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears
>>> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it
>>> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>>>>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP
>>>>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>>>>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>>>>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>>>>>> Atlantis.
>>>>>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

David, 😁

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 1:10 PM David Person  wrote:

> Yeehaw!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:55:04 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Thank you Sir. It was a fun parts picking process. My favorite bits are
>> the vintage XTR bits and the Cerakote Nitto Seatpost and stem adapter.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:46 PM stoker  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it
>>> was a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and
>>> love the orange!
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stoker,
>>>>
>>>> Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
>>>>> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Morning Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to
>>>>>> build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty
>>>>>> quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>>>>>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the 
>>>>>> noodle
>>>>>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites
>>>>>> colors of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a
>>>>>> MUP  But it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it
>>>>>> rides completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the
>>>>>>> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It
>>>>>>> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would
>>>>>>> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>>>>>>>>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
>>>>>>>>>> MUP
>>>>>>>>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
>>>>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>>>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
&g

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Bob,

Thank you Sir. It was a fun parts picking process. My favorite bits are the
vintage XTR bits and the Cerakote Nitto Seatpost and stem adapter.

Hugh

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:46 PM stoker  wrote:

> Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it
> was a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and
> love the orange!
>
> Bob
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Stoker,
>>
>> Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:
>>
>>> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
>>> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Morning Bill,
>>>>
>>>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to
>>>> build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty
>>>> quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
>>>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>>>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
>>>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors
>>>> of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But
>>>> it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
>>>> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the
>>>>> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It
>>>>> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would
>>>>> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>>>>>>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
>>>>>>>> MUP
>>>>>>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
>>>>>>>> sure the
>>>>>>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>>>>>>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>>>>>>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>>>>>>>> Atlantis.
>>>>>>>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Stoker,

Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..

Hugh

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:

> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Morning Bill,
>>
>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build
>> was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick.
>> I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>
>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>
>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors
>> of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But
>> it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
>> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait!
>>> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears
>>> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it
>>> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>>>>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP
>>>>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>>>>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>>>>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>>>>>> Atlantis.
>>>>>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Matt,

Didn't even consider the Joker connection. Fortunately,  it's mostly orange
with a bit of purple and a hint of green. I would definitely get a bike
frame in Purple, maybe the next one? Although the Grey and Kidney bean
Hungapillar is epic.

Hugh


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 8:20 AM Matt Beecher  wrote:

> Neat bike.  Orange and purple always reminds me of the Joker, though I am
> not a big fan of the character.  I've thought about getting a bike
> repainted in purple and orange for a few years, though I have not decided
> on which shades to use.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:28:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
>> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
>> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
>> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Morning Bill,

And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build
was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick.
I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.

Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.

I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors of
mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But it
is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
completely different from my road Atlantis.

Cheers!

Hugh


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:

> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait!
> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears
> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it
> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon!
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>
>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP
>>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the
>>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>>
>>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
>>>>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>> Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Jon!

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:

> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
>> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
>> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
>> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Howdy Atlantis Folks,

Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished 
the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and 
did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map 
Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

Hugh

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] ISO/WTB Crust Orthopedic Back Bar

[Hugh Smitham]

Figure it's a long shot but thought maybe someone who was fortunate enough 
to get one of these bars has decided they aren't for them or maybe decided 
not to use them after all? If so I'd like to give em a try. Hit me me up 
with a dm if you want to move wm along.

Hugh
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[RBW] ISO M950 XTR Front derailleur

[Hugh Smitham]

HI All,

Does anyone have a xtr m950-952 front derailleur 31.8mm clamp,  bottom pull 
they can part with.

Please dm if you do? Thanks

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Hugh Smitham]

He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)

Hugh
LA.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:

> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
> batch of bars?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
>> seems like there's much more choice
>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
>> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>>
>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>>> 'em here 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
 I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
 but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I don't 
 need them too high, so fingers crossed.

 John

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
> putting 
> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't 
> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
> assumed 
> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
> aesthetics. 
> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the 
> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍
>>>
>>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem 
 to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to 
 the 
 stem. Oh, I found it. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it 
> on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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> 
>
> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] ISO Frame Saver.

[Hugh Smitham]

Garth,

I deleted the original post because I answered the question for myself. 

Hugh

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:54:51 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> It's odd that the original post was removed shortly after it was posted. I 
> tried to reply but it was gone. 
>
> I'll use Boeshield spray for my next frame. 
>
> FWIW, Progold has a "Steel Frame Protector" spray of their own. It's 
> shipable from a few online retailers. 
>
> Frame Saver was bought by Problem Solvers, aka QBP. 
>
>
> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/product-tech/2019/08/15/frame-saver-becomes-problem-solvers-product-qbp
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For a long time the original stuff was from Peter Weigle, I thought. 
>> Perhaps it still is. Are Riv bikes not E.D. coated?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell 
>> there are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it,  perhaps it 
>> can't be shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure?  Anyone know 
>> how I can get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the Los Angeles area? 
>> For obvious reasons most bike stores are closed today through January 3rd.
>>
>> Happy New year!!
>>
>> Hugh
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[RBW] ISO Frame Saver.

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi,

Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell there 
are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it,  perhaps it can't be 
shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure?  Anyone know how I can 
get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the Los Angeles area? For obvious 
reasons most bike stores are closed today through January 3rd.

Happy New year!!

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Wheel size on MIT Homer 58

[Hugh Smitham]

The geometry chart is outdated and riv is currently revising it. You need
to call Rivendell and ask them. My guess is that a 58 cm is 700 C but my
old 2012 was 650 b 🤷

Hugh

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> Does anyone know if the wheel size on 58 homers 700C or 650B? The homer
> webpage on rivbike states 700 but geometry chart seems to suggest 650b . I
> think the geometry chart might be outdated but just wanted to confirm .
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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Hugh Smitham]

Very enjoyable video to watch, I particularly enjoyed the babbling stream 
soundtrack while you worked in your shop.

Hugh 

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> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

🙏

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 10:49 AM David Person  wrote:

> I should have said "Arigatōgozaimashita"
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:29:55 AM UTC-7 David Person wrote:
>
>> Looks like it is.  Thanks.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:13:33 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I believe this is it.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/6lmLbScZruQ
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 10:11 AM David Person  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you have the link to the 2nd video?
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:07:59 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> I watched both videos and yes noticed the Grant Peterson comment.
>>>>> Really fun behind the scenes video, not just us:)  I especially liked the
>>>>> president (I assume) talking about handle bar trends and curious origin
>>>>> story's of particular products. I thought his discussion on titanium was
>>>>> particularly interesting as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I purchased a nos Suntour pro xc 26.8 post from eBay apparently a list
>>>>> member.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 8:40 AM David Person  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the latest email from Will "See you in Philly" he includes a link
>>>>>> to a YouTube video of a visit by Blue Lug to the Nitto factory.
>>>>>> Interesting video should the process for making many of their items.
>>>>>> At15:40 into to video, Grant is called out by name for switching to 
>>>>>> 26.8mm
>>>>>> seat posts and how they wished he would go back to 27.2mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYIV6O6tOvY
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 4:11:00 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it? I've got two bikes with that seatpost size (maybe 3, once I
>>>>>>> get the seatpost clamp rounded out). And I don't even own an old Cinelli
>>>>>>> with fastback stays, which famously use 26.2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter "statements from owners of multiple French bikes should be
>>>>>>> treated as anecdotes, not as dispositive evidence" Adler
>>>>>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 1:13:19 PM UTC-7 David Hallerman
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave, *who when he sees a car with a 26.2 sticker on the rear
>>>>>>>> tends to think “Now that’s a rare seatpost size”*
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

David,

I believe this is it.

https://youtu.be/6lmLbScZruQ

Hugh n LA

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 10:11 AM David Person  wrote:

> Do you have the link to the 2nd video?
>
> On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:07:59 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> I watched both videos and yes noticed the Grant Peterson comment. Really
>> fun behind the scenes video, not just us:)  I especially liked the
>> president (I assume) talking about handle bar trends and curious origin
>> story's of particular products. I thought his discussion on titanium was
>> particularly interesting as well.
>>
>> I purchased a nos Suntour pro xc 26.8 post from eBay apparently a list
>> member.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 8:40 AM David Person  wrote:
>>
>>> In the latest email from Will "See you in Philly" he includes a link to
>>> a YouTube video of a visit by Blue Lug to the Nitto factory.  Interesting
>>> video should the process for making many of their items.  At15:40 into to
>>> video, Grant is called out by name for switching to 26.8mm seat posts and
>>> how they wished he would go back to 27.2mm.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYIV6O6tOvY
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 4:11:00 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it? I've got two bikes with that seatpost size (maybe 3, once I get
>>>> the seatpost clamp rounded out). And I don't even own an old Cinelli with
>>>> fastback stays, which famously use 26.2.
>>>>
>>>> Peter "statements from owners of multiple French bikes should be
>>>> treated as anecdotes, not as dispositive evidence" Adler
>>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 1:13:19 PM UTC-7 David Hallerman
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dave, *who when he sees a car with a 26.2 sticker on the rear tends
>>>>> to think “Now that’s a rare seatpost size”*
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Re: [RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Hugh Smitham]

Scott,

I dig the gold Motolites, understated but still an element of bling. Are
those the Losco bullmoose or Bosco bullmoose bars. Also I'm warming to that
color green, very handsome looking.

Hugh n LA

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:34 PM scott minor  wrote:

> My new to me 64 Clem L.  Just getting acquainted, wow what an enjoyable
> ride.  It floats and rolls really well regardless of what I'm carrying.
>
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 9:51:46 PM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sweet build, thanks for sharing!! :)
>>
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> "Think of bicycles as rideable art that can just about save the world." -
>> Grant Petersen
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:07 PM J Imler  wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 7DED9F5A-51DB-4ED5-B70D-215B7DB65599.jpeg]
>>> 59 Clem L in naked sunbather land
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 8:41:19 AM UTC-7 fraze...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's awesome!

 Thanks!

 Ron

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 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:12 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built
> up 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger
> wheels, Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo
> from the website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll 
> use
> a Brooks C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com
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>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an 
>> Atlantis
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) 
>> in
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be
>> calling to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much
>> better BTW), there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of 
>> Grant's
>> Clem battling a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision
>> making process...which isn't hard to do, BTW.
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of
>> my own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike
>> and I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete.
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow
>> Clem Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds.
>>
>> That would be awesome.
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>
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[RBW] Re: Inspiring Clem Smith Jr L builds!!

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug, Very excited for you that's a handsome build and nice bits and pieces.

Ron, Always happy to geek out on bikes with you brother! This is gonna be a 
fun project and a great thread to follow along.

Cheers,

Hugh n LA

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 8:12:07 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Congrats! I bought one of the web special Clem L bikes that was built up 
> 1x10 with a Shimano indexed shifter. It has Tosco bars, Cliffhanger wheels, 
> Teravail Ehline tires, and a Clipper crankset. I'll attach a photo from the 
> website as it hasn't been shipped yet (hopefully today!). I'll use a Brooks 
> C17 saddle.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-4 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> I just bought my first Rivendell (Clem Smith Jr. L) and I am beyond 
>> stoked to drive up and pick it up! I was originally looking for an Atlantis 
>> frame and fork...but kept looking at Grant's Clem Smith Jr L (maxed out) in 
>> the *Staff Bikes* section of the site...it really seemed to be calling 
>> to me. And then, with the Riv site redesign (which I like much better BTW), 
>> there is the picture representing "Trailish" bikes of Grant's Clem battling 
>> a pretty gnarly root section...just muddying up my decision making 
>> process...which isn't hard to do, BTW. 
>>
>>  After discussing my "dilemma" over a few wonderfully lengthy, phone 
>> calls with Hugh covering so much bike geekery, I decided to pull the 
>> trigger on buying one of the leftover 59 complete bikes that were left.
>>  
>> Since I was originally looking for a frame and fork, I have a lot of my 
>> own parts (both bought and pulled from the bin o' parts) for this bike and 
>> I will be replacing some of the parts on the complete. 
>>
>> If you guys don't mind playing along...I would love it if you fellow Clem 
>> Smith Jr L owners could send over some pics of your builds. 
>>
>> That would be awesome. 
>>
>> Thanks! :)
>>  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

Sorry not the last update apparently, I'm still getting emails for items 
that are sold, this is the accurate list.

*This is the last update: Feel free to make an offer on any parts the worst 
>>> that can happen is a no :) If your interested in an item(s) I'll need 
>>> your 
>>> full shipping** address to calculate shipping costs, that's what 
>>> the app requires not just a zip. *
>>>
>>
>> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>>

 Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp

>>> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00

>>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) Reduced $5.00

>>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00

>>> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
 (New) Reduced $30.00 obo

>>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) Reduced $20.00 1 left

>>> Mallet 3 pedals Reduced $30.00

>>>

>> Hugh 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Jason,

Super happy "New Bike Day" you really picked a great whip as your first
Rivendell. I did the same back in 2012 when I purchased a new A. H. Hilsen.

You also picked one of my favorite locations to ride to and photograph.

Best,

~Hugh

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> hi, all.  bought my first riv -- my dream bike! -- yesterday from someone
> in this group.  got it home and tuned it up, but too late to take it out
> for my first ride.  had to wait until today.  forgive the lighting on the
> pic, i'm a terrible photographer, but you may be able to make out that it's
> a homer.  just love it!
>
> jason
> (los angeles)
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 8:10:20 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Not my Riv, but Riv-ish: I took my Box Dog Pelican out for a sunrise
>> spin this morning in Colorado Springs. Perfect fall morning.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Michael,

Your Atlantis takes 700c correct?

Hugh

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 1:20 PM Michael Williams 
wrote:

> Hey Hugh,   I’ve run 2.35 Racing Ralphs on my 59 MIT Atlantis, no fender.
>   Could do a 2.25 w/ fender.-Mike
>
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> On Oct 24, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Erik  wrote:
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> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without
> any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks
> with my experience!
>
> Erik
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
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>> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis,
>> so your tire and size jives.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh,
>>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to
>>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a
>>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size
>>>> anyone has been successful with.
>>>>
>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old
>>>>> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I
>>>>> notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35"
>>>>> so figured I'd ask current owners.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh n LA
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Erik,

Thanks! I wanted to run some Rene Herse 27.5″ x 2.2″ (650B x 55) Umtanum
Ridge TC Tire but seems that's not in the cards. I'm leaning towards the
bontrager XR3s in a 2.2" I appreciate the confirmation.

Hugh

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 1:08 PM Erik  wrote:

> I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without
> any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks
> with my experience!
>
> Erik
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis,
>> so your tire and size jives.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh,
>>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to
>>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a
>>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size
>>>> anyone has been successful with.
>>>>
>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old
>>>>> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I
>>>>> notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35"
>>>>> so figured I'd ask current owners.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Mike,

You just got back from El Paso Mtn?

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
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On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:46 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> ar, ar Doug. No, IIRC it was slipping rim tape. I got two flats on the
> ride, none from rocks.
>
> Just got back from their, cut trip a day short. The wind was horrendous.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 4:46:43 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Mike:
>>
>> Was it a "snakebite puncture"?
>>
>> Looks like a couple of other Atlantis' I've seen in SLO.
>>
>> DougP
>>
>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy
>>> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso
>>> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike
>>> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding
>>> them that way.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also
>>>> love seeing them in other colors.
>>>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match
>>>> wonderfully.
>>>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in
>>>> general.
>>>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>>>
>>>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I
>>>> was emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally
>>>> riding it.
>>>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I
>>>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers
>>>> aren't indexed.
>>>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had
>>>> more and wheelsize was 650b.
>>>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for
>>>> it. He is generous.
>>>>
>>>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put
>>>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>>>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for
>>>> the Atlantis.
>>>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope
>>>> thats it. Tubeless.
>>>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it
>>>> didn't feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>>>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>>>
>>>> -Matthew P
>>>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b
>>>>>> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
>>>>>> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size
anyone has been successful with.

Hugh n LA

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>
> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old girl?
> Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I notice
> the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" so
> figured I'd ask current owners.
>
> TIA,
>
> Hugh n LA
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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

I appreciate the offer but I'm looking for the 2018 to present model
Atlantis clearance.

Hugh

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 7:06 PM  wrote:

> I am currently running the 26” Super Yummy which is 26 x 2.22 and I would
> not go much larger. If you want close up pics of anywhere let me know and I
> can do it in the daylight. Mine is a 2004 or 2005 model.
>
> On Oct 23, 2021, at 18:29, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>
> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old girl?
> Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I notice
> the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" so
> figured I'd ask current owners.
>
> TIA,
>
> Hugh n LA
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[RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Hugh Smitham]

This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.

What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old girl? 
Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I notice 
the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" so 
figured I'd ask current owners.

TIA,

Hugh n LA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 3:19 PM Jared Wilson  wrote:

> I was trying to figure out much of this same info a couple weeks back, it
> was hard to come up with a definitive timeline based on readily available
> info.
>
> This is why I agree with changing model names when deviating away from the
> bikes original form, it draws a clear line on what's what.
>

I for one am glad they stuck with the name/model.

It could have been solved by a running  data base/records using serial
numbers, but I figure a small company like Rivendell that had only been in
business for 6 years the last thing they were thinking beyond survival was
whether some nerds would want to know how the model changed through the
preceding years.

>
> The info is no longer of much use to me other than educational, but I'm
> glad to see a more in depth timeline now being established.
>

It's not that useful to me either other than just through pure curiosity.

I don't know how committed I am to this but the idea of creating a small
page devoted to the history of the Atlantis would be cool. Maybe in Google
docs where beyond the present it can be updated?

Hugh

>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:05:21 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> That Harris page is interesting.  It shows a 58 cm (my size) as having a
>> 59 cm TT.  I have a couple of Atlantis brochures from around when I got
>> mine (2003) that show a 58 with a 58.5 TT.  I can understanding rounding
>> 58.5 up to 59.  I just measured mine @ 56 cm or maybe 56.5 cm, center to
>> center, head tube to seat tube, along the slope of the top tube.  No way to
>> finagle to 58.
>>
>> The point is Rivendell made running changes that were fairly incremental
>> & non-consequential.  The big re-design was going to longer chainstays a
>> few years ago.  The brochures are un-dated, and both list the 68 cm size
>> that Harris says "coming 2001".  Whereas other manufacturers would use
>> subtle geo changes to call it a "new & improved" bike (along with the
>> latest fad color), Rivendell stuck with the same name & paint scheme and
>> kept improving the basic products.
>>
>> It would be fun to have a list of geometries by serial number but that
>> info is probably non-existent.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:01:12 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> I'll check it out Scott.
>>>
>>> I just got off the phone with James at Rivendell and we agreed that one
>>> of the largest changes from the first batch of MIT to the current batch of
>>> MIT is that the 56 cm was 650B and the current 55cm is 700c. The first
>>> batch of MIT had a shorter top tube as well making a drop bar more
>>> feasible. The new batch of the MIT as you can see drop the 56 cm altogether.
>>>
>>> I'm going to shoot an email to Grant Just to try to get a better year
>>> understanding of each iteration and maybe some of the geometry changes he
>>> made. We'll see this will be an interesting exchange.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:53 PM Scott G.  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Harris page has the specs on the first batch of Atlantis.
>>>> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#tubing
>>>> Geometry is a bit different in several of the sizes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:46:36 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here.
>>>>> Cyclofiend (hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines
>>>>>> for the various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish
>>>>>> chain stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to
>>>>>> present.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall
>>>>>> reading that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> have no idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>&

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

I'll check it out Scott.

I just got off the phone with James at Rivendell and we agreed that one of
the largest changes from the first batch of MIT to the current batch of MIT
is that the 56 cm was 650B and the current 55cm is 700c. The first batch of
MIT had a shorter top tube as well making a drop bar more feasible. The new
batch of the MIT as you can see drop the 56 cm altogether.

I'm going to shoot an email to Grant Just to try to get a better year
understanding of each iteration and maybe some of the geometry changes he
made. We'll see this will be an interesting exchange.

Hugh n LA




On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:53 PM Scott G.  wrote:

>
> The Harris page has the specs on the first batch of Atlantis.
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#tubing
> Geometry is a bit different in several of the sizes.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 3:46:36 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend
>> (hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
>>
>> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for
>>> the various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish chain
>>> stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.
>>>
>>> I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall
>>> reading that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline but
>>> have no idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model?
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Short version, others here will know more details:
>>>>
>>>> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999.
>>>> Later iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built
>>>> by Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had
>>>> mostly-flat toptubes.
>>>>
>>>> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly
>>>> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels.
>>>>
>>>> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version
>>>> with much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the
>>>> Toyo/Waterford bikes.
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for a
>>>>> purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted evolution
>>>>> of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  Where it was
>>>>> made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on the
>>>>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find
>>>>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug,

Well that would make sense regarding the number two. I just finished
reading that riv reader pertaining to the Bridgestone ode to Singer Frenchy
bike designed by Mr. Watanabe.

As far as I can tell there was a MIT version after (between) the Waterford
run and the current MIT run. I think the distinction was shorter top tube
but similarly long chain stays. Just curious the years.

Doug your memory has always served me pretty darn well :)

Joe, It's funny but If my memory serves me it was Jim's cyclofiend archive
site that originally turned me on to Rivendell.

My Genesis, back in 2007 I was riding a pinarello, a small bike shop in
downtown LA I used to visit, a mechanics there told me about Waterford, He
basically said if you want to find a really sweet bike! Go take a look at
Waterford. Researching Waterford and at the time blown away by the high
cost somehow led me to Jim's site and consequently Rivendell, which was
IMHO a great value. And I still think they're a great value.




On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 11:00 AM dougP  wrote:

> Hugh:
>
> Somewhere I read that the "2" on the seat tube is a reference to the
> Rivendell Atlantis being the second use of the name, the first being an
> Atlantis made by Bridgestone but never brought to the US.
>
> We need our resident Rivendell archivist (the guy with a garage full) to
> comment.  My understanding is all the Toyo ones had same geometry & only
> differed in details such as pointy lugs, roundy lugs and number of braze
> ons.  Production shifted to Waterford sometime around 2015 & that may have
> been addressed in a Riv e-mail or Blahg.  It was either 2016 or 2017 when I
> rode the Waterford 650B that I believe was a 56.  It felt different than my
> 58 but I put it off to new bike components.  I asked Roman what had changed
> & I think he mentioned wheelbase, but it still looked the same.  Then when
> production went to Taiwan in 2018 (?) the long chainstays were obvious.  I
> rode one of those & was favorably impressed.
>
> Some of this is from fuzzy recollection but I think the general facts are
> OK.
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 9:40:50 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Thanks. Jim's RR's stop at Summer 2000, there's some mention around 2009
>> but really less than complete historical account of the Atlantis. I feel a
>> project brewing.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:46 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend
>>> (hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
>>>
>>> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for
>>>> the various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish chain
>>>> stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.
>>>>
>>>> I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall
>>>> reading that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline but
>>>> have no idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model?
>>>>
>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Short version, others here will know more details:
>>>>>
>>>>> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999.
>>>>> Later iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were 
>>>>> built
>>>>> by Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had
>>>>> mostly-flat toptubes.
>>>>>
>>>>> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly
>>>>> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version
>>>>> with much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the
>>>>> Toyo/Waterford bikes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for
>>>>>> a purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted
>>>>>> evolution of the At

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

Joe,

Thanks. Jim's RR's stop at Summer 2000, there's some mention around 2009
but really less than complete historical account of the Atlantis. I feel a
project brewing.

Hugh n LA

On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 12:46 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Hugh, I don't know those details but you might find it here. Cyclofiend
> (hosts this list) has a treasure trove of Riv history.
>
> http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:18:25 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for
>> the various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish chain
>> stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.
>>
>> I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall reading
>> that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline but have no
>> idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model?
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Short version, others here will know more details:
>>>
>>> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999.
>>> Later iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built
>>> by Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had
>>> mostly-flat toptubes.
>>>
>>> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly
>>> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels.
>>>
>>> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version with
>>> much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the
>>> Toyo/Waterford bikes.
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>>>
>>>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for a
>>>> purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted evolution
>>>> of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  Where it was
>>>> made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on the
>>>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find
>>>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

Joe, I've been wondering about something. Do you know the timelines for the 
various iterations? 1. Toyo 1999-?  2.Waterford and later longish chain 
stay iteration Year to 2017? 3.  MIT version I believe is 2018- to present.

I remember my 2003 Atlantis had a <2> on the seat tube and recall reading 
that it was the 2nd Toyo run or batch within the Toyo timeline but have no 
idea what would have changed between the 1999 to my 2003 model? 

Hugh n LA

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Short version, others here will know more details:
>
> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later 
> iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built by 
> Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had 
> mostly-flat toptubes. 
>
> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly 
> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels. 
>
> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version with 
> much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the 
> Toyo/Waterford bikes. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>
>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for a 
>> purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted evolution 
>> of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  Where it was 
>> made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on the 
>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find 
>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

Sold.

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:28:44 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>  
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º 
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
> Velcro divider and water port. 
>
>  
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount 
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes 
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been 
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike 
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have 
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>  
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my 
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>  
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>  
>
> Hugh n LA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Mike,

I love these images! Your Atlantis is such a great build. I'd really like
to see a .gpx track of your route or any way you can share.

~Hugh

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moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 11:40 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding
> them that way.
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally
>> riding it.
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more
>> and wheelsize was 650b.
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it.
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b
>>>> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
>>>> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis evolution?

[Hugh Smitham]

Joe,

Op asked and you delivered. Very succinct Sir.

Hugh n LA

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Short version, others here will know more details:
>
> Original was built in Japan by Toyo, I believe start year was 1999. Later 
> iterations gained braze-ons, lost pointy headtube lugs and were built by 
> Waterford in USA. All of these came with 26" or 700C wheels, all had 
> mostly-flat toptubes. 
>
> There was an update in the final Waterford run which included slightly 
> longer stays and some smaller frames got 650B wheels. 
>
> Production shifted to Taiwan a few years ago to the current version with 
> much longer stays and a sloping toptube. Sizing is different from the 
> Toyo/Waterford bikes. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 10:32:35 AM UTC-7 David wrote:
>
>> Super newbie question here, but need to be sure fairly soon here for a 
>> purchase... can you fine folks provide me with a quick, bulleted evolution 
>> of the Atlantis across the three iterations of the frame?  Where it was 
>> made, this one has longer stays, etc.?  I'm sure this onto is on the 
>> website, but sometimes stuff's kind of hidden on there and I often find 
>> myself digging and digging for specific info I need.  Many, many thanks.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

>
> *This is the last update: Feel free to make an offer on any parts the 
>> worst that can happen is a no :) If your interested in an item(s) I'll 
>> need 
>> your full shipping** address to calculate shipping costs, that's 
>> what the app requires not just a zip. *
>>
>
> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>
>>>
>>> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>>>
>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Campee Front 32F Rack  reduced  $80.00 obo
>>>
>> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>>>
>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) Reduced $5.00
>>>
>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>>>
>> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
>>> (New) Reduced $30.00 obo
>>>
>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) Reduced $20.00 1 left
>>>
>> Mallet 3 pedals Reduced $30.00
>>>
>>
>>>
> Hugh 
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Beautiful 64cm A. Homer Hilsen Complete

[Hugh Smitham]

That is a handsome bike. GLWTS

Hugh n LA

On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 10:26:58 PM UTC-7 kvb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello fellow RBW riders!
>
> I  have an immaculate 64cm Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen w/ custom double top 
> tube design. I had this bike built brand new in 2020 from the ground up. 
> When you get on this bike with the White Industries gear it just rolls like 
> you wouldn’t believe. 
>
>
> So here’s the spec sheet - a lot of TLC went into this build. 
>
> - Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 64cm double top tube frame
> - Velocity Atlas rims
> - White Industries MI5 front/rear hubs 
> - Tektro R559 long reach brakes front /rear
> - Tektro chrome cap pads
> - Titanium multi color water bottle cage 
> - Deore XT platform pedals with xtra long spikes
> - Brooks B17 honey saddle
> - White Industries ENO crankset
> - White Industries VBC217 2x chain rings 
> - Shimano HG chain
> - Shimano HG 9sp cassette
> - SunRace RDRS2 9/10sp RD
> - SunRace R80 FD
> - Velo Orange fluted fenders 
> - Soma Portola bars
> - Cotton bar tape
> - Shimano SL-BS77 9sp bar end shifters
> - Nitto Technomic stem 
> - FSA headset 
> - Brooks b17 saddle 
> - Carradice Barley saddle bag 
> - Pannaracer pasella 700x38c
> - DiaCompe Gran Compe levers/hoods
> - Shimano SLR cables
> - Halo locking skewers, tool included 
>
> I’m asking $3500 OBO for it. I can deliver too depending on how close to 
> Cotati you are. 
>
> This baby has sub 200 miles on her. Only used it as an around town bike. 
> Everything is practically brand new. You can see my brooks saddle has some 
> wear on it, but it’s from another build that I dismantled and had laying 
> around.
>
> Cheers everyone, 
> Vince
>
> [image: 20461B82-6B4F-44FF-A583-4C3F7A29AAA8.jpeg][image: 
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Re: [RBW] FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

I added an image of the detachable pannier mount to the album.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/51616870061/in/dateposted-public/

~Hugh

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moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 12:28 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with
> Velcro divider and water port.
>
>
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS)
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted.
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used.
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes.
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
>
> Hugh n LA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS Black Paul Thumbies 22..2mm

[Hugh Smitham]

Sold

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 3:46 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Being that I haven't received an offer to trade for a silver set I'll sell
> these for $60 + shipping. Shipping should not be more than $5 so the total
> cost to you is $65 for a lightly used set.
>
> Photo's: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWXRaXd
>
> Hugh
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[RBW] FS Black Paul Thumbies 22..2mm

[Hugh Smitham]

Being that I haven't received an offer to trade for a silver set I'll sell 
these for $60 + shipping. Shipping should not be more than $5 so the total 
cost to you is $65 for a lightly used set.

Photo's: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWXRaXd

Hugh

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[RBW] Re: FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

Update: Stand Over for those that asked 76cm (29.9213") measured from floor 
to center of top tube. This is with Schwalbe g1's 27.5 x2.8" tires.

Hugh
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:28:44 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>  
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º 
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
> Velcro divider and water port. 
>
>  
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount 
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes 
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been 
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike 
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have 
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>  
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my 
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>  
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>  
>
> Hugh n LA
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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>  
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Re: [RBW] FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

My apologies one small omission, pedals are not included in the sale.

Hugh

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 12:28 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with
> Velcro divider and water port.
>
>
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS)
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted.
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used.
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes.
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
>
> Hugh n LA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

Forgot the most important price: $1800.00

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:28:44 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>
>  
>
> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>
> Measurements:
>
> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>
> Seat tube angle 72º 
>
> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>
> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>
> BB height~270mm
>
> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>
> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>
> Custom stem 7cm
>
> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
> mount.
>
> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>
> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>
> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
> bottle cages.
>
> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
> Velcro divider and water port. 
>
>  
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
> (Internal): 40 mm
>
> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>
> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>
> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 
>
> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 
>
> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>
> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 
>
> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
> (Silver)
>
> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>
> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>
> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>
> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>
> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>
> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>
> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount 
> (Black)
>
> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>
> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>
> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>
> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>
>   30.0 mm (Red)
>
> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>
> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes 
> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>
> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been 
> freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike 
> was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have 
> been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>
>  
>
> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 
>
> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my 
> best to answer.
>
> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>
>  
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>  
>
> Hugh n LA
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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[RBW] FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Hugh Smitham]

*Bantam Adventure Bike*

 

2017 650b medium adventure bike

Measurements:

Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm

Seat tube angle 72º 

Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm

Effective To Tube ~56cm

BB height~270mm

Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm

Rear Drop out spacing 135mm

Custom stem 7cm

Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
mount.

Dynamo Light internal wire routing.

Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.

Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
bottle cages.

Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
Velcro divider and water port. 

 

Build:

Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
(Internal): 40 mm

Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
Dynamo Hub, anodized red.

Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm

Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 

Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 

Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s

Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
(11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)

Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 

Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
(Silver)

Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)

Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)

Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985

Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)

Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*

Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)

Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct Mount 
(Black)

Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm

Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips

Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)

Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019

  30.0 mm (Red)

WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)

Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes a 
new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.

Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has been 
freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This bike 
was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which have 
been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.

 

The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 

If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do my 
best to answer.

Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8

 

Thanks for looking.

 

Hugh n LA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [RBW] FT Trade my black Paul Thumbies for Silver Version.

[Hugh Smitham]

Sorry folks left off a crucial part: these are the 22.2mm version. Looking
for the same in exchange.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:22 AM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> I have a black set lightly used but would like a set of silver. DM if
> you'd like to make a trade.
>
> Here are the pictures. https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWXRaXd
>
> Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

> *Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved 
> from pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll 
> need 
> your shipping full address to calculate shipping costs, that's what the 
> app 
> requires not just a zip.*
>

 *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>
>>
>> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>>
> Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold
>>
> Rack - Nitto Mini-Campee Front 32F Rack  reduced  $80.00 obo
>>
> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>>
>> White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold
>>
>> White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold
>>
> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) Sold
>>
> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $Sold
>>
> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  Decided to keep.
>>
>> DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold
>>
> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent 
>> condition)  Sold
>>
> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) Sold
>>
> Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 Reduced Sold
>>
>> ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm Installed but never ridden reduced  
>> Sold
>>
> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) Reduced $5.00
>>
> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm Sold
>>
> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>>
> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
>> (New) Reduced $35.00 obo
>>
> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 
>> Luxos U Sold
>>
> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light Sold 
>>
> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold
>>
> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware Sold
>>
>> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  Sold
>>
> Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) Sold
>>
> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 1 left
>>
> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals  I have another set in black if 
>> anyone is interested hit me up for pictures? 
>>
>> Mallet 3 pedals Reduced $30.00
>>
> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 
>> bcd Sold
>>
> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold
>>
>
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[RBW] FT Trade my black Paul Thumbies for Silver Version.

[Hugh Smitham]

I have a black set lightly used but would like a set of silver. DM if you'd 
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM Garth  wrote:

> Here is the previous thread about the 26.8 seatpost size.
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/2ivUFNnqt-I/m/_wGi3ofDBwAJ
>
> To Hugh and anyone else taking issue with the post size, by all means
> contact Grant @Riv. We can ask why 'till the comes come home here but not
> asking Grant/the designer is overlooking the obvious. Sure "they" @Riv may
> read this but to ask and complain without directing it to the source of the
> question is fruitless. Speculation speculates and that's all it does.
>

Pretty much said earlier that perhaps I would ask the man himself. I'd say
the spirit of my post was, dang limited choices and did anyone know why
the diameter changed? As I see it this forum is to ask questions and to
some extent speculate. I personally don't see it as a problem, unless of
course it becomes a problem with wild conspiratorial chatter.

>
> I'm no fan of 26.8 either as I have some new 27.2 black Salsa Shafts
> awaiting frames. Those are by far the best post I've used, including the
> 2-bolt Nitto. I don't mind some black parts myself as they are so easy
> clean and they never corrode.
>

Agree with the two bolt design and depending on the build black is fine. My
current Atlantis leans towards silver but I relented with some black bits
out of economic necessity. The next build will lean towards black so no
bias either way.

>
>
> I've done a deep dive into 26.8 posts worldwide and while yes you can find
> some besides Nitto, the choices are meager. Then again even in 27.2 the
> choice isn't great as it seems on the surface. Many if not most of the
> lower cost posts are various rebranded Kalloys. Myself I wouldn't use one,
> mostly due to their shallow bolt design and some with a small clamp area.
> If you're good at searching things online you'll find a few others but most
> are black, if that matters to you, and few if any have a full 23-25mm
> setback. So I ended right back to getting a Nitto S-83. The price is
> outrageous for a post if you really think about it.. but then again
>  the egomaniaclal "I'm so offended." doesn't discriminate as to
> what the offence may appear to be as long as it's fed. The only way to
> "win" that game is to not play at all and be on your very merry way.
>

Thank you for validating my point, just meager pickings to begin with and
most are unacceptable for my preference. I'm not too bad at searching
the internet but I'm no Steven Hawking level genius searching for
seat posts. Getting offended?? Over limited choices? I guess some might be
so egomaniacal but most are probably just a bit frustrated and a bit
curious. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not opposed to shelling out $120 or $130 for a well made post. Heck I
have a Paul Handsome post on a bike ~$200 but that was 27.2 and there by my
accounts more choices.

>
>
> The best looking 26.8 post that does have some setback is a Miche
> Supertype. Retroregression sells them in various colors but the silver has
> been out of stock since last year. They have gold and blue and red though
> . I would've gotten a gold one but decided to get a Nitto instead.
>

Thanks for the suggestion, the Miche Supertype isn't that considered a
track bike post? I honestly don't know what difference that would be? The
look isn't my favorite. I wish this post came in 26.8

https://www.sim.works/collections/featured/products/froggy-seatpost?variant=35858115461286


  ~Hugh

>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, your point is exactly my point.  If you use the same lugs you do
>>> not change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work.  If you want to use
>>> the same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the
>>> inside, so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube.  That's my
>>> understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter.
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>
 Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID of
 the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake,  had the same lugs
 as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost.
 Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I
 am going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine
 Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till
 December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the
 black Clementine.

 Laing Conley
 Delray Beach FL

 On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Hi Hugh, I had my little rant about this same issue back on Nov 24th
> last year.  I assumed the change on the Hillbornes was made when they
> changed the style of the seat lug.  The ends of the seat stays on my 2015
> Hillborne (sidepull brakes) where they meet the seat lug are of a 
> different

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

Good ideas if I run into the same issue. I haven't had a seat post slip on
any of my Rivendell's but I have heard other's mention it, now my old
Italian race bike is a different story.

That Promax post is a decent option but I like the extra 5mm of set back
the s83 has. Alex Cycles has a s83 in Black with I'm considering since my
next build is orange and I'm going with more black.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:02 AM Karl Wilcox  wrote:

> I decided to replace the 26.8 seat post that came with my Roadini; I
> discovered that 'Promax' makes a nice and light and high quality seatpost
> in 26.8 (it is 'SP-1' model and it comes in Red, Blue, Gold and Black (no
> silver).  It has served very nicely.  I also had trouble with both of my
> 26.8 seat posts slipping down over time with the Roadini frame.  I ended up
> using some carbon paste to solve that problem.  You can also have a
> machinist or frame builder put a nice grid pattern into the surface of the
> seatpost to keep it in place (Chris Kelly in Nevada City, Ca. has done that
> for me with other frames).  At any rate, the Promax seat post is the one to
> get in my opinion, and although it is kind of long, it only weighs about 9
> ounces (and, of course, it can easily be cut down).
> Cheers,
> Karl
> Weimar, CA.
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:37 AM lconley  wrote:
>
>> Probably voided the warranty, but the Bombadil would have been useless to
>> me without the setback seatpost, I have a very long torso. It was on sale
>> for $1800 brand new (normally $3000 back then) from Rivendell and was the
>> correct 52cm for my legs, so I was going to make it work. Rivendell
>> recommended a Hunqapillar for a touring bike for me, but Bombadil on sale
>> was less expensive. i really didn't have to hone that much, the seatpost is
>> a little less than 27.2 and the bike was a little more than 27.0, so the
>> tube thickness removed was less than 1.0 mm.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 12:24:06 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> I agree the lugs used (no matter the design) accept the same OS diameter
>>> tubing but Rivendell went with thicker walled tubing. The question is why?
>>> To me Grant not wanting to ream out the seat tube could effectively be
>>> solved by choosing a thinner walled tubing. I think it's a structural
>>> decision as I mentioned before. Laing, I wonder if by reaming out the
>>> inside of the seat tube you are voiding the warranty? Probably NBD unless
>>> you ride like Manny and need all the extra gussets and tube wall thickness.
>>>
>>> David, basically my issue boils down to lack of availability which
>>> obviously has been exacerbated by the pandemics supply chain disruption.
>>> Yet still if I want a 27.2 post NBD.
>>>
>>> Eric and Laing, I agree with a lugged post in 26.8mm please!
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Laing, your point is exactly my point.  If you use the same lugs you do
>>>> not change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work.  If you want to use
>>>> the same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the
>>>> inside, so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube.  That's my
>>>> understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter.
>>>>
>>>> Toshi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID
>>>>> of the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake,  had the same
>>>>> lugs as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost.
>>>>> Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I
>>>>> am going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine
>>>>> Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till
>>>>> December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the
>>>>> black Clementine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laing Conley
>>>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

Laing,

Got it. I figured it was a minimal amount to hone off and you layed out
your logic for moving forward, which is sound. Saving $1200 is significant,
thanks for the explanation.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:37 AM lconley  wrote:

> Probably voided the warranty, but the Bombadil would have been useless to
> me without the setback seatpost, I have a very long torso. It was on sale
> for $1800 brand new (normally $3000 back then) from Rivendell and was the
> correct 52cm for my legs, so I was going to make it work. Rivendell
> recommended a Hunqapillar for a touring bike for me, but Bombadil on sale
> was less expensive. i really didn't have to hone that much, the seatpost is
> a little less than 27.2 and the bike was a little more than 27.0, so the
> tube thickness removed was less than 1.0 mm.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 12:24:06 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> I agree the lugs used (no matter the design) accept the same OS diameter
>> tubing but Rivendell went with thicker walled tubing. The question is why?
>> To me Grant not wanting to ream out the seat tube could effectively be
>> solved by choosing a thinner walled tubing. I think it's a structural
>> decision as I mentioned before. Laing, I wonder if by reaming out the
>> inside of the seat tube you are voiding the warranty? Probably NBD unless
>> you ride like Manny and need all the extra gussets and tube wall thickness.
>>
>> David, basically my issue boils down to lack of availability which
>> obviously has been exacerbated by the pandemics supply chain disruption.
>> Yet still if I want a 27.2 post NBD.
>>
>> Eric and Laing, I agree with a lugged post in 26.8mm please!
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, your point is exactly my point.  If you use the same lugs you do
>>> not change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work.  If you want to use
>>> the same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the
>>> inside, so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube.  That's my
>>> understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter.
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID of
>>>> the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake,  had the same lugs
>>>> as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost.
>>>> Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I
>>>> am going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine
>>>> Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till
>>>> December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the
>>>> black Clementine.
>>>>
>>>> Laing Conley
>>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hugh, I had my little rant about this same issue back on Nov 24th
>>>>> last year.  I assumed the change on the Hillbornes was made when they
>>>>> changed the style of the seat lug.  The ends of the seat stays on my 2015
>>>>> Hillborne (sidepull brakes) where they meet the seat lug are of a 
>>>>> different
>>>>> style than the current models.  I assumed that was the reason, but I 
>>>>> notice
>>>>> the Platypus and the Appaloosa use the same style as my Hillborne, but 
>>>>> both
>>>>> those frame take 26.8mm seatposts.  Seems odd that the wall thickness used
>>>>> in the seat tube of the Hillborne would change after 2015, but I guess it
>>>>> did, hence the change to 26.8mm seatposts.  Anyhow, I'm with you on this.
>>>>> Definitely limits ones options.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked Will about this recently and he said something to the effect
>>>>>> that Grant didn't want to ream out as much from the seat tube hence 
>>>>>> thicker
>>>>>> tube and 

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

I agree the lugs used (no matter the design) accept the same OS diameter
tubing but Rivendell went with thicker walled tubing. The question is why?
To me Grant not wanting to ream out the seat tube could effectively be
solved by choosing a thinner walled tubing. I think it's a structural
decision as I mentioned before. Laing, I wonder if by reaming out the
inside of the seat tube you are voiding the warranty? Probably NBD unless
you ride like Manny and need all the extra gussets and tube wall thickness.

David, basically my issue boils down to lack of availability which
obviously has been exacerbated by the pandemics supply chain disruption.
Yet still if I want a 27.2 post NBD.

Eric and Laing, I agree with a lugged post in 26.8mm please!

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:45 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Laing, your point is exactly my point.  If you use the same lugs you do
> not change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work.  If you want to use
> the same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the
> inside, so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube.  That's my
> understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley  wrote:
>
>> Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID of
>> the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake,  had the same lugs
>> as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost.
>> Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I am
>> going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine
>> Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till
>> December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the
>> black Clementine.
>>
>> Laing Conley
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh, I had my little rant about this same issue back on Nov 24th
>>> last year.  I assumed the change on the Hillbornes was made when they
>>> changed the style of the seat lug.  The ends of the seat stays on my 2015
>>> Hillborne (sidepull brakes) where they meet the seat lug are of a different
>>> style than the current models.  I assumed that was the reason, but I notice
>>> the Platypus and the Appaloosa use the same style as my Hillborne, but both
>>> those frame take 26.8mm seatposts.  Seems odd that the wall thickness used
>>> in the seat tube of the Hillborne would change after 2015, but I guess it
>>> did, hence the change to 26.8mm seatposts.  Anyhow, I'm with you on this.
>>> Definitely limits ones options.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I asked Will about this recently and he said something to the effect
 that Grant didn't want to ream out as much from the seat tube hence thicker
 tube and thinner post.

 I'm with Laing and would like that lugged seatpost in a 26.8, please!

 On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 8:05:10 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Rivendell switched over to mostly 26.8 seatposts maybe 5-6 years ago
> when they started using thicker tubing across the board. My 1st Rivendell
> (of 13) was a sidepull double top tube all-blue Sam Hillborne in 2011 and
> was 27.2, every other Rivendell with a 28.6 (1-1/8) OD seat tube since has
> been 26.8 except the thin tubed Frank Jones Sr with a 27.2 and the 
> Bombadil
> with a 27.0. I just wish that they would issue the lugged seatpost in 
> 26.8.
> I put a 27.2 lugged seatpost in the Bombadil by honing the ID if the seat
> tube with an automotive brake cylinder hone. I use the hone on all my
> frames anyway to smooth the interior of the tube so that the frames don't
> scratch the seatposts. In the case of the Bombadil It just took a couple 
> of
> evenings and an extra set of stones to enlarge the diameter. The
> Hubbuhubbuh and Clementine use even larger seat tubes and seat posts. My
> custom uses 31.8 OD tubes for the entire main triangle and uses a 29.0
> seatpost (1.4mm thick seat tube) - made for an interesting search - ended
> up with an very cool 30 year old NOS Campagnolo Icarus MTB seatpost. I 
> grew
> up on French bicycles, so alternate component standards were always part 
> of
> cycling to me. Much more pleasurable using Google than telephoning 
> multiple
> bike shops and hitch-hiking across the state in the seventies to get a 
> 26.4
> Campagnolo Record seatpost.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 5:57:29 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 19 October 2021 at 7:37:04 pm UTC+11 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> If you use a seattube with thicker 0.9mm walls (say for a touring
>>> bike designed to carry a load), then that will

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

Toshi,

That's my understanding as well, it has to be thicker tubing walls for
structural strength.

Perhaps the inconvenience of a different seat post diameter was the trade
off to avoid frame warranty claims. In this case the slight inconvenience
was shifted to the consumer. At the end of the day I suppose it's a small
price to pay for Riv to remain viable.

Hugh

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 11:04 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Yes my understanding is that if you want a thicker tube for strength, the
> outer diameter stays the same—I suppose so you can use the same lugs, but
> that means the inner diameter has to decrease, so you have a smaller seat
> tube diameter.
>
> Toshi in Oakland
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:35 PM Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Fellas,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply's.
>>
>> Ron, honestly I know very little about bicycle frame manufacturing in
>> terms of the decisions that go into ordering a batch of F&F.'s. I could
>> certainly see creating a uniformity of parts and I'm sure Grant has some
>> rationalization for going with this diameter seat tube but it effectively
>> limited choices, virtually every seat post manufacturer makes a 27.2 mm
>> post.
>>
>> Karl, it does.
>>
>> Joe,  they do but I prefer a dual bolt post. They are stronger and allow
>> for better adjustment.
>>
>> A friend of mine on the list here uses a suspension post, When Rivendell
>> went to this seat post diameter it effectively limited him from buying any
>> of the new frames because nobody makes his preferred suspension post in
>> that diameter only in 27.2mm.
>>
>> Perhaps I'll call Grant and ask the man himself why he made that
>> decision. Somewhere I read that he wanted to create a thicker tube wall for
>> more strength? Maybe there were some failures and he was future proofing?
>> Maybe someone with better knowledge will chime in?
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 8:00:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know the answer but I do know Riv also carries the S65
>>> single-bolt in 250mm for $84.
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:01:38 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start
>>>> making the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe
>>>> hearing something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I
>>>> think the new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find
>>>> posts in 27.2mm all day long.
>>>>
>>>> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
>>>> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
>>>> shipping.
>>>>
>>>> Rant over n out.
>>>>
>>>> Hugh n LA
>>>>
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

Hey Fellas,

Thanks for the reply's.

Ron, honestly I know very little about bicycle frame manufacturing in terms 
of the decisions that go into ordering a batch of F&F.'s. I could certainly 
see creating a uniformity of parts and I'm sure Grant has some 
rationalization for going with this diameter seat tube but it effectively 
limited choices, virtually every seat post manufacturer makes a 27.2 mm 
post.

Karl, it does.

Joe,  they do but I prefer a dual bolt post. They are stronger and allow 
for better adjustment.

A friend of mine on the list here uses a suspension post, When Rivendell 
went to this seat post diameter it effectively limited him from buying any 
of the new frames because nobody makes his preferred suspension post in 
that diameter only in 27.2mm.

Perhaps I'll call Grant and ask the man himself why he made that decision. 
Somewhere I read that he wanted to create a thicker tube wall for more 
strength? Maybe there were some failures and he was future proofing? Maybe 
someone with better knowledge will chime in?

Hugh n LA

On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 8:00:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't know the answer but I do know Riv also carries the S65 single-bolt 
> in 250mm for $84. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:01:38 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start making 
>> the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe hearing 
>> something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I think the 
>> new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find posts in 
>> 27.2mm all day long. 
>>
>> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm 
>> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and 
>> shipping.
>>
>> Rant over n out.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too

Hugh

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:

> Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b
> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
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[RBW] 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Hugh Smitham]

Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start making
the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe hearing
something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I think the
new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find posts in
27.2mm all day long.

Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
shipping.

Rant over n out.

Hugh n LA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

>
>
 *Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved
 from pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll need
 your shipping full address to calculate shipping costs, that's what the app
 requires not just a zip.*

>>>
>>> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the
 shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*

>
> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>
 Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold
>
 Rack - Nitto Mini-Campee Front 32F Rack   $90.00 obo
>
> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>
> White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold
>
> White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold
>
 Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) Sold
>
 Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00
>
 Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  reduced $55 will not
> go lower.
>
> DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold
>
 Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent
> condition)  Sold
>
 NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) Sold
>
 Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 Reduced $10.00
>
> ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm Installed but never ridden reduced
> $10.00
>
 Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00
>
 Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm Sold
>
 Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>
> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise
> (New) $50.00 obo
>
 BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2
> Luxos U Sold
>
 BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light Sold
>
 Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold
>
 Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00 pending
>
> Sugino 26t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  Sold
>
> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  Sold
>
> Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00
>
 Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 Both still available
>
 Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals Sold
>
> Mallet 3 pedals $55.00
>
 Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58
> bcd Sold
>
 Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold
>
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB- Used 55cm Atlantis frameset

[Hugh Smitham]

Ron,

Rooting for you to find your 55 sooner than later.

Hugh

On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 8:33:24 AM UTC-7 fraze...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> As Hugh mentioned earlier in the week. I am wanting to buy a used 55cm 
> Atlantis frame and fork. 
>
> Let me know! 
>
> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: More SPAM

[Hugh Smitham]

Jim,

I hadn't thought to do that. RBW Owners Bunch now is officially in my
Google contacts.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:16 AM Cyclofiend Jim 
wrote:

> Yeah... this is a google routing thing.
> Seth Godin has ranted about this more than a few times - but basically,
> the algorithm decides that stuff we've been getting regularly (and in most
> cases opted-in to receive) gets shuttled there.
>
> Just one of those tasks to be aware of. Usually telling google it isn't
> spam will work, but also adding the specific email -
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - as a specific CONTACT in your google
> address book/contacts will help.
>
> J
> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 12:58:03 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> I've had the same issue with gmail putting RBW Owners Bunch in my spam
>> folder. Now I'm aware. Hott here.
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
>> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 10:04:52 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>
>>> I am not affected AFAIK as I can easily spot them -- but just checking
>>> in on e-mail I see TEN items in the SPAM folder, all from RBW group.
>>>
>>> Just letting others know
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> No riding for me today in THIS monsoon
>>> Vancouver
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

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>
>>> *Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved 
>>> from pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll need 
>>> your shipping full address to calculate shipping costs, that's what the app 
>>> requires not just a zip.*
>>>
>>
>> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>>

 Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp

>>> Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold

>>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Campee Front 32F Rack   $90.00 obo

 Greenfield Kickstand $10.00

 White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold

 White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold

>>> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) Sold

>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00

>>> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  reduced $55 will not 
 go lower.

 DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold

>>> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent 
 condition)  Sold

>>> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) Sold


 Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 Reduced $10.00

 ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm Installed but never ridden reduced  
 $10.00

>>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00

>>> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm Sold

>>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00

 Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
 (New) $50.00 obo

>>> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos 
 U Reduced $120

>>> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light Sold 

>>> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold

>>> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00

 Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00

 Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00

 Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00

>>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 Both still available

>>> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals Sold

 Mallet 3 pedals $55.00

>>> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 
 bcd Sold

>>> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold










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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

>
>
> *Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved 
>>> from pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll need 
>>> your shipping full address to calculate shipping costs, that's what the app 
>>> requires not just a zip.*
>>>
>>
>> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>>

 Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp

>>> Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold

>>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Front 32F, upper   $90.00

 Greenfield Kickstand $10.00

 White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold

 White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold

>>> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) Sold

>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00

>>> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  reduced $55 will not 
 go lower.

 DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold

>>> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent 
 condition)  Sold

>>> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) Sold


 Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 Reduced $10.00

 ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm Installed but never ridden reduced  
 $10.00

>>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00

>>> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm Sold

>>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00

 Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
 (New) $50.00

>>> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos 
 U Reduced $120

>>> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light Sold 

>>> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold

>>> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00

 Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00

 Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00

 Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00

>>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 Both still available

>>> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals Sold

 Mallet 3 pedals $55.00

>>> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 
 bcd Sold

>>> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold










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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

*Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved from 
>> pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll need your 
>> shipping full address to calculate shipping costs, that's what the app 
>> requires not just a zip.*
>>
>
> *Nothing I have shipped has cost more than edit $14. The bulk of the 
>> shipping has been in the 4$-$9 range and that's cross country.*
>>
>>>
>>> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>>>
>>  

> Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold
>>>
>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Front 32F, upper   $90.00
>>>
>>> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>>>
>>> White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold
>>>
>>> White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold
>>>
>>> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) Sold
>>>
>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00
>>>
>> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  reduced $55 will not go 
>>> lower.
>>>
>>> DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold
>>>
>> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent 
>>> condition)  $85.00
>>>
>> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) $150
>>>
>>>
>>> Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 Reduced $10.00
>>>
>>> ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm Installed but never ridden reduced  $10.00
>>>
>>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00
>>>
>>> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm Sold
>>>
>>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>>>
>>> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise 
>>> (New) $50.00
>>>
>> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos 
>>> U Reduced $120
>>>
>> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light Sold 
>>>
>> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold
>>>
>> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00
>>>
>>> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>>>
>>> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>>>
>>> Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00
>>>
>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 Both still available
>>>
>> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals Sold
>>>
>>> Mallet 3 pedals $55.00
>>>
>> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 bcd 
>>> Sold
>>>
>> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

>
> *Update: Items still unsold, price drop on a few parts and items moved
> from pending back up for grabs. If your interested in an item(s) I'll need
> your shipping address to calculate shipping costs. *
>

*Nothing I have shipped has cost more than $11. The bulk of the shipping
> has been in the $9 range and that's cross country.*
>
>>
>> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>>
>>
>>   Brooks
>> b17 Saddle Select BlackSold
>>
>> Rack - Nitto Mini-Front 32F, upper   $90.00
>>
>> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>>
>> White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold
>>
>> White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold
>>
>> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) $30.00each
>>
>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00
>>
>> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  reduced $55 will not go
>> lower.
>>
>> DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle Sold
>>
>> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent
>> condition)  $85.00
>>
>> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) $150 pending
>>
>> Ergon Saddle 142mm width 80mm rails Just pay shipping and it's yours.
>>
>> Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 $20.00
>>
>> ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm $20.00
>>
>> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00
>>
>> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm $50.00
>>
>> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>>
>> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise (New)
>> $50.00
>>
>> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos
>> U Reduced $120
>>
>> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light $40.00
>>
>> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold
>>
>> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00
>>
>> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>>
>> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>>
>> Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00
>>
>> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 Both still available
>>
>> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals $25.00
>>
>> Mallet 3 pedals $55.00
>>
>> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 bcd
>> Sold
>>
>> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

*Update: Items remaining.*

>
> Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp
>
>   
> 
>  
>
>
>
> Brooks b17 Saddle Select BlackSold
>
> Rack - Nitto Mini-Front 32F, upper   $90.00
>
> Greenfield Kickstand $10.00
>
> White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) Sold
>
> White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  Sold
>
> Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) $30.00each
>
> Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mounted but not used) $40.00
>
> Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm (New)  $65.00
>
> DTSwiss 6 bolt 240 Rear Hub Shimano/Sram 9/10/11 142mm Thru-Axle $130.00
>
> Chris King Front Hub 100mm  32 hole, no QR skewer (used in excellent 
> condition)  $85.00
>
> NOS Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Lever Shifters (New) $150
>
> Ergon Saddle 142mm width 80mm rails $10
>
> Shimano BB-UN55 73mm x 122.5 $20.00
>
> ShimanoBB- UN300 73mm x 113mm $20.00
>
> Ultracycle ATB Seatposts31.6 x 350mm (Black) $10.00
>
> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 250mm $50.00
>
> Kalloy SP-267 UNO Seatpost 25.4mm x 350mm (Black)  $10.00
>
> Salsa 1 1/8 threadless stem clamp 31.8mm/ 110mm length 85º/95º rise (New) 
> $50.00
>
> BuschBusch and Müller Luxos U Generator Light & Müller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos U 
> $145.00
>
> BuschBusch and Müller Toplight Line Plus Dynamo rear light $40.00 Pending
>
> Supernova E3 Triple 2 Dynamo Headlight: Gray & rear light Sold
>
> Cook Bros MTB crank Arms 175mm with bolts hardware $150.00
>
> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>
> Sugino 24t 74mm bcd 5 bolt inner ring (new)  $20.00
>
> Sugino 36t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $20.00
>
> Sugino 46t 110 bcd 5 bolt (used) $25.00 one pending sale
>
> Shimano PD-M520 clipless MTB pedals $25.00
>
> Mallet 3 pedals $55.00
>
> Shimano FC-M737 170mm crank. Comes with 2 Vuelta rings 36t/ 20t 94/58 bcd 
> $80.00
>
> Ocean Air Cycles/Swift Docena Rando bag black (new never used) Sold
>
>
> Thanks for reading and playing along with me.
>
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: More SPAM

[Hugh Smitham]

I've had the same issue with gmail putting RBW Owners Bunch in my spam 
folder. Now I'm aware. Hott here.

Hugh n LA 

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 10:04:52 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

> I am not affected AFAIK as I can easily spot them -- but just checking in 
> on e-mail I see TEN items in the SPAM folder, all from RBW group.
>
> Just letting others know
>
> EricF
> No riding for me today in THIS monsoon
> Vancouver
>
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[RBW] Re: WANTED: White Industries VBC Silver Crank Arms 170mm

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Michael,

I think these are pretty hard to come by and it's my thinking if someone 
has a set it's gonna be in use. I have a set currently in use on my 
Atlantis. I'm building another bike up and just ordered 
another WI VBC crankset 
from 
https://avt.bike/collections/white-industries-cranksets/products/white-industries-vbc-crankset.
 
Not cheap and there's a 12 week wait but so far the best I could find.

I've never ordered from this company but they seem legit and another list 
member I know ordered a set and received his crank so there's that.

Best Regards,

Hugh n LA

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:09:38 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> Need these as the final puzzle piece for my 2021 Appaloosa. 
>
> Made a post months ago that has yet to be approved, so here we are again. 
> The last post had a laundry list, this has only my crank arms.
>
> I'm open to condition - i already have the rings and bolts - just need the 
> arms and the lockring.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

Update: The White Industries Eno Crank is a 1x crank system. If you need a 
double then you need a VBC crank arm (variable bolt circle). I also have 
the specific tool that you have to buy separate to torque down the crank 
lock ring to the drive side arm. If you want it lmk and we can figure out a 
price.

If it's not clear I'm selling the 32t chain ring separately.

Hugh

On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 11:39:35 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Time to clear out some parts. There's a lot so in the interest of my 
> sanity I have a few ground rules or let's say guidelines. I mean no 
> offense. But please take the time to read through before contacting me. 
>
> When you respond to me please send correspondence to hughs...@gmail.com* 
> In the subject window please put what part(s) you're interested in?* This 
> will help me keep all the emails straight.* In the body please say where 
> you saw the post?* I'll be posting to other groups simultaneously.  
>
>  1. I'm busy, I know we all are but for some reason as I've gotten older 
> Work, doctor's appointments, husband duties, my fanatical obsession with 
> baseball and peeling off time to cycle, my time is limited. So I will mail 
> out packages once a week. Maybe no one buys anything or very little and 
> this is a moot point. If I'm wrong about something which can and has 
> happened, let me know but do it privately and I'll make the correction.
>
> 2. I use USPS priority boxes because I don't have a UPS or Fedex business 
> account. Here are the U.S. contiguous states prices. Sm flat rate box 
> $9.20, Med Flat Rate box $16.25, Large Flat Rate box $22.65 Obviously the 
> more bits you buy the better the shipping cost. I'm sorry I can't offer a 
> better shipping solution. I'll do my best to get multiple parts in the 
> smallest box possible. If I can send using an envelope I will but honestly 
> the savings isn't much. I'm only shipping to the lower 48. If you're in 
> Alaska or Hawaii we can discuss shipping and whether it makes sense? I 
> won't be shipping overseas, Canada not sure what the rates are? I assume it 
> just costs more to and from?
>
> 3. I will do my utmost to give the first person to respond the first 
> opportunity to pay and it's theirs. If I run into slow communication I 
> can't help it if someone beats you to buying it, unless we have a 
> pre-arranged understanding.
>
> 4. I will do my best in this post to answer all questions about products. 
> All items are used unless stated. All items are as is. For instance the 
> Campee rack may have come with bolts/ hardware but I don't have the time to 
> hunt down those bits.  But if you have a question I'll do my best to 
> answer. I may not have the technical ability to give you an adequate 
> answer. 
>
> The B&M light has a broken electrical tab. The tab is for rear light 
> wiring. I remember there was a hack where you opened it up and soldered a 
> new tab on. I never took the time to do this obviously, maybe you'll be 
> industrious or not care a bean? 
>
> The Campee 32F front rack will not work with Linear brakes, probably most 
> know this already but I figure perhaps I save someone the hassle.
>
> The Wolftooth ring is meant to work with a Surly chain ring but can be 
> made to work with other crank arms. I suggest if you're considering it go 
> to the Wolftooth website and read up on the specs.
>
> DTSwiss 6 bolt 142mm rear hub. I don't think they make this model anymore? 
> 142mm IIRC this has been was the gravel dropout spacing. 
>
> Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Shifters. If you are Shimago(sp) curious I 
> believe you can use these with Shimano MTB 9speed derailleurs, I was going 
> to but never got to it. It's something about the pull ratios that are 
> really similar and play well together.
>
> 73mm BB pretty straight forward, I think the Hiily bikes have a 73mm BB 
> shell. I had these for my Bantam adventure bike but I'm selling that rig 
> soon.
>
> Salsa Stem, I can't remember why I bought this but I never used it. I 
> can't recall the vintage, maybe early odds? I searched the internet and 
> couldn't find one like it. I believe it was made under the QBP banner but 
> not sure? If anyone knows, let me know.
>
> B&M Topline rear light, selling separately because that's how I bought it. 
> If you're interested in the B&M Luxos U and want both we can work out a 
> deal?
>
> The used Sugino crank rings are in my opinion in good shape. But don't 
> take my word, look at the pictures and make your own conclusion. Sorry I 
> didn't clean the one off, maybe I will

[RBW] Bike Bits and Pieces For Sale

[Hugh Smitham]

Time to clear out some parts. There's a lot so in the interest of my sanity
I have a few ground rules or let's say guidelines. I mean no offense. But
please take the time to read through before contacting me.

When you respond to me please send correspondence to hughsmit...@gmail.com*
In the subject window please put what part(s) you're interested in?* This
will help me keep all the emails straight.* In the body please say where
you saw the post?* I'll be posting to other groups simultaneously.

 1. I'm busy, I know we all are but for some reason as I've gotten older
Work, doctor's appointments, husband duties, my fanatical obsession with
baseball and peeling off time to cycle, my time is limited. So I will mail
out packages once a week. Maybe no one buys anything or very little and
this is a moot point. If I'm wrong about something which can and has
happened, let me know but do it privately and I'll make the correction.

2. I use USPS priority boxes because I don't have a UPS or Fedex business
account. Here are the U.S. contiguous states prices. Sm flat rate box
$9.20, Med Flat Rate box $16.25, Large Flat Rate box $22.65 Obviously the
more bits you buy the better the shipping cost. I'm sorry I can't offer a
better shipping solution. I'll do my best to get multiple parts in the
smallest box possible. If I can send using an envelope I will but honestly
the savings isn't much. I'm only shipping to the lower 48. If you're in
Alaska or Hawaii we can discuss shipping and whether it makes sense? I
won't be shipping overseas, Canada not sure what the rates are? I assume it
just costs more to and from?

3. I will do my utmost to give the first person to respond the first
opportunity to pay and it's theirs. If I run into slow communication I
can't help it if someone beats you to buying it, unless we have a
pre-arranged understanding.

4. I will do my best in this post to answer all questions about products.
All items are used unless stated. All items are as is. For instance the
Campee rack may have come with bolts/ hardware but I don't have the time to
hunt down those bits.  But if you have a question I'll do my best to
answer. I may not have the technical ability to give you an adequate
answer.

The B&M light has a broken electrical tab. The tab is for rear light
wiring. I remember there was a hack where you opened it up and soldered a
new tab on. I never took the time to do this obviously, maybe you'll be
industrious or not care a bean?

The Campee 32F front rack will not work with Linear brakes, probably most
know this already but I figure perhaps I save someone the hassle.

The Wolftooth ring is meant to work with a Surly chain ring but can be made
to work with other crank arms. I suggest if you're considering it go to the
Wolftooth website and read up on the specs.

DTSwiss 6 bolt 142mm rear hub. I don't think they make this model anymore?
142mm IIRC this has been was the gravel dropout spacing.

Campagnolo Athena 11 speed Ergo Shifters. If you are Shimago(sp) curious I
believe you can use these with Shimano MTB 9speed derailleurs, I was going
to but never got to it. It's something about the pull ratios that are
really similar and play well together.

73mm BB pretty straight forward, I think the Hiily bikes have a 73mm BB
shell. I had these for my Bantam adventure bike but I'm selling that rig
soon.

Salsa Stem, I can't remember why I bought this but I never used it. I can't
recall the vintage, maybe early odds? I searched the internet and couldn't
find one like it. I believe it was made under the QBP banner but not sure?
If anyone knows, let me know.

B&M Topline rear light, selling separately because that's how I bought it.
If you're interested in the B&M Luxos U and want both we can work out a
deal?

The used Sugino crank rings are in my opinion in good shape. But don't take
my word, look at the pictures and make your own conclusion. Sorry I didn't
clean the one off, maybe I will before shipping?

Cook Bros Crank Arms, IDK people on eBay ask $200 I figured I'd go lower
make me an offer? But let's not get too wild :)

Mallet pedals, I know nothing about them apparently they go for $150 new
but I never used them, they came off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tallboy vintage 2014.

Shimano M737 Triple crank arms and rings. I had this initially on my Bantam
bike as a double therefore set up as a dbl. I bought NOS and used it very
little.

Ocean Air Cycles  Docena Porteur Bag. The price is roughly what I paid less
shipping but hey Rob hasn't made any in a while. I can play with the price
to absorb some of the shipping cost.

Here's the link to the photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmWVG1mp







Brooks b17 Saddle Select Black  $95.00

Rack - Nitto Mini-Front 32F, upper   $90.00

Greenfield Kickstand $10.00

White Industries -ENO Crank 170mm arms (New Never mounted) $220.00

White Industries ENO Crank Ring 30t (New)  $60.00

Shimano CN-HG701-11 chain 116L x2 (New) $30.00each

Wolf Tooth 94bcd 28 tooth chainring (New/ Mount

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[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Doug! We who straddle Atlanti must stick together ;)

Hugh

On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 7:50:13 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Hugh:
>
> You've not worn out your welcome at all!  The thread of Atlantis pictures 
> was great.  Someone out there MUST have a frameset.  Your post is a PSA.
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 4:14:36 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Well it's been a busy couple weeks for me on this list. Really hope I 
>> haven't worn out my welcome.
>>
>> I'm making this post for my friend Ron who has newly joined the group but 
>> has yet to be vetted or passed muster as it were to make his very own post.
>>
>> He's looking for the the above Atlantis frame & fork only. Well if it has 
>> a headset and bottom bracket thumbs up.
>>
>> If you have one that you'd part with you can Private message me and I'll 
>> forward it on to Ron or you can publicly respond in which case he can field 
>> it himself.
>>
>> A little more info: Ron is located in SoCal he's a nice guy and was lucky 
>> enough to meet Grant & Tom Richey at the 2017 Interbike, I've seen pictures 
>> of them and I don't think there was any Photoshop hanky panky. 
>>
>> We need to get Ron on a Rivendell asap, let's bring him into the fold, 
>> and not in a creepy culty way, we don't want to frighten him away.
>>
>> BOOM!!
>>
>> who let the dogs out!!?
>>
>> Hugh n LA
>>
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[Hugh Smitham]

Well it's been a busy couple weeks for me on this list. Really hope I
haven't worn out my welcome.

I'm making this post for my friend Ron who has newly joined the group but
has yet to be vetted or passed muster as it were to make his very own post.

He's looking for the the above Atlantis frame & fork only. Well if it has a
headset and bottom bracket thumbs up.

If you have one that you'd part with you can Private message me and I'll
forward it on to Ron or you can publicly respond in which case he can field
it himself.

A little more info: Ron is located in SoCal he's a nice guy and was lucky
enough to meet Grant & Tom Richey at the 2017 Interbike, I've seen pictures
of them and I don't think there was any Photoshop hanky panky.

We need to get Ron on a Rivendell asap, let's bring him into the fold, and
not in a creepy culty way, we don't want to frighten him away.

BOOM!!

who let the dogs out!!?

Hugh n LA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

That second one is iconic, especially with the fog. Nice capture Doug!

Hugh

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 4:10 PM dougP  wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:09:02 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Have a couple of bridges to share.
>>
>> dougP
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Re: [RBW] Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Hugh Smitham]

That's gorgeous Garth.

Hugh

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:50:49 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Near my home that I pass by every day and greet the cows, who are 
> sometimes right up against the fence grazing. I had passed by on this 
> morning and the fog was wonderful. I didn't think of taking a photo until I 
> got the bottom of the hill, so I came back up knowing the fog would likely 
> be receding fast. That's the fog goes, blink of the eye and it's changed !  
> This is a phone pano shot so it's not the best depiction of what it was 
> like, but close enough for the moment.  Of course, what a photo can never 
> show is the feeling of being there, it was magical and effervescent. As I 
> crested the top of the hill there is a home on the farm side then then the 
> view is open all the way to forever. There were pockets and streams of fog 
> everywhere in the layers of hills, and this was just after sunrise which 
> played mystical with it all. The fresh air  oh the fresh air with 
> little foggy droplets everywhere. You literally breathe in the vapor, the 
> land, the air, the everything ! So Alive ! 
>
> [image: FarmPano.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Jim,

Looks to be a root beer color? Looks great! Love that route. A used
Atlantis is a happy Atlantis :)

Best,

Hugh

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 9:09 AM Jim S.  wrote:

> Hi all, I'm really enjoying this thread. Here's my repainted Atlantis
> getting the obligatory Bixby Creek Bridge photo.
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:23:25 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Hugh,
>>
>> Here's my Toyo Atlantis (maybe 2005). New to me last Summer, and a really
>> enjoyable bike to ride. Cheers.
>> [image: DSCN3374.jpeg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:33:38 PM UTC+9 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Rusty,
>>>
>>> That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at
>>> Spank Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun.
>>> Your using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
>>> Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity
>>> Deftrap pedals, I see why you passed.
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at
>>>> RAGBRAI 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River Trail
>>>> just last month.
>>>> The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration
>>>> which I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the
>>>> current, Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and
>>>> brakes to replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because I
>>>> couldn't afford another penny for the Black Kats!
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to send one at a time.
>>>> [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
>>>>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Rusty,

That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at  Spank 
Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun. Your 
using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity Deftrap 
pedals, I see why you passed. 

Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.

Best Regards,

Hugh  

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:

> Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at RAGBRAI 
> 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River Trail just 
> last month.
> The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration which 
> I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the current, 
> Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and brakes to 
> replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because I couldn't 
> afford another penny for the Black Kats!  
>
> I'll try to send one at a time.
> [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Joe,

Thanks for lurking and weighing in cuz I know you know some history there
buddy. I mean no disrespect on the lurking,  more of an affectionate jab.

Best,

Hugh


On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 12:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was
> - probably still is - an option to order a custom color on any Riv. Most of
> them were/are done by Rick Stefani (D&D Painting) in the Bay Area, plus
> it's possible some Waterford frames were done at Waterford.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Gabriel,
>>
>> This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the
>> opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the
>> early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always
>> been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain
>> because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one
>>> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand
>>> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder
>>> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a
>>> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake
>>> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm
>>> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
>>> -Gabe
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in
>>>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was
>>>> doing bike shifting these days ;)
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your
>>>> case possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>>>
>>>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The
>>>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder
>>>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Hugh,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the
>>>>> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of
>>>>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and
>>>>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a good bike!
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew in Denver.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color.
>>>>>> From here it looks like a powder blue?
>>>>>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides.
>>>>>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ofrGxTFqXtXC6w7S6> It is, IMO, the
>>>>>>> Platonic form of bike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>>>>>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>>>>>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Gabriel,

This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the
opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the
early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always
been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain
because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier  wrote:

> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one
> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand
> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder
> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a
> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake
> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm
> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
> -Gabe
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in
>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was
>> doing bike shifting these days ;)
>>
>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case
>> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>
>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The
>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder
>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Hugh,
>>>
>>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the
>>> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of
>>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and
>>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>>
>>> Such a good bike!
>>>
>>> Andrew in Denver.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nus,
>>>>
>>>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From
>>>> here it looks like a powder blue?
>>>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using.
>>>>
>>>> Hugh
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides.
>>>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ofrGxTFqXtXC6w7S6> It is, IMO, the
>>>>> Platonic form of bike,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
>>>>>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks for your input. Personally done with drops.

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 9:10 AM lconley  wrote:

> I must agree on the handlebars. I have tried Boscos, Boscomooses, and
> Albatrosses, but didn't like any of them. What I ride are drops, Bullmooses
> and Wavies.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:42:19 AM UTC-4 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>> Responses to your questions:
>> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at
>> https://steerstopper.com
>> 2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from
>> the manufacturer in the UK.
>> 3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction
>> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more
>> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to
>> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the
>> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>> 4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same
>> time, I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a
>> close to normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are
>> more of a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or
>> completely flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.
>> Again, the Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style
>> bars.  I'm the outlier here.
>> 5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width
>> needed to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats,
>> which I very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make
>> this pretty easy without deflating the tire.  By the way, I only inflate
>> the tires to 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh about 200#. With the length of
>> the chain stays, the low pressure tires, and the geometry, It's like riding
>> in a 1962 Chevy Impala and for me, that's really good.
>> Best,
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hugh,
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
>>>> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
>>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a
>>>> Steer Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I
>>>> use it in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.
>>>> It's so much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
>>>> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
>>>> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps
>>> you can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase
>>> one for ourselves?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a
>>> set for mine.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They
>>>> are strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to
>>> the white industries myself.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly
>>>> thought of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the
>>>> level of build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them
>>> a lot.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never
>>>> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger
>>>> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear
>>>> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to
>>>> f

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug,

Always nice to see the diminutive frame sets :)

Hugh

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 6:27 PM dougP  wrote:

> Couldn't resist slipping the mini-Lantis into the thread.  Wife's 47cm
> Atlantis.  Bought used & she now has over 10 yeas on it.  Weighs nothing
> compared to my 58.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>> The Clipper crank is the non-Silver brand that Rivendell sells. It's arms
>> are made in the same factory is Sugino. The Clipper wide/low is a great
>> choice for fairly flat riding where you *may* need to climb now and
>> then...the 26t granny gear a life saver on some hills around where I live,
>> but I am almost always on the big 42 ring.
>>
>> On the Deore's max, it can go to 34.
>>
>> The Shikoros are VERY tough while not being stupid heavy. I'm a big
>> PathLessPedaled fan, and Russ has me thinking about tubeless as well...and
>> I would if I was going to ride tires that were not as armored. I'd rather
>> keep tough tires and get the tubes as light as I can. But ya never know!
>>
>> Those brake levers with the shifters on them are dope and I signed up to
>> be notified when they get more in stock of the long-pull with shifters.
>> Holy Moses, that's the solution I've been looking for! I realized in my
>> post I trailed off when I was talking about shifters. I like the stem mount
>> Riv has to put downtube shifters on, but I think the front bag I use would
>> not play well with the cable housing.
>>
>> I will certainly post changes...they'll be a while out. I'm still only a
>> year on this bike and I don't see making big changes for a while.
>>
>> Ben
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:42 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Hugh,
> Responses to your questions:
> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at
> https://steerstopper.com
>

Thank you Steve.

2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from
> the manufacturer in the UK.
>

Good to know.

3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction
> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more
> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to
> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the
> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>

Excellent points on the merits of trigger shifters. I'm definitely not
against them.

4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same time,
> I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a close to
> normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are more of
> a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or completely
> flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.  Again, the
> Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style bars.  I'm the
> outlier here.
>

If you're an outlier then you must be a Rivster :) I think you make
excellent points,  I've ridden Albatache, Albatross, Drops, Jones and a ton
of MTB bars and am currently using Choco's on my road centric Atlantis.

I've been wary of the Bosco's and other similar bar types for the very
reasons you bring up, principally the handshake angle and lack of other
hand positions. I'm including a picture attached of the reason I want to
try the Bosco. This guy Fabio, Ron whatever name he's currently using says
that you can take a Bosco bar and spread them out to achieve a similar bar.
I think the one in this picture is a prototype, but I have no idea when it
will be available on the Crust site?


5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width needed
> to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats, which I
> very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make this pretty
> easy without deflating the tire.
>

I love my Motolites, infinite ability to set them up, easy to get your
wheel out, like you say no deflation. They have great stopping power and
look great. The only issue I have with them is that they interfere with
fork crown mounting of a fixed campee rack. I had a 32F campy rack with
detachable lowrider pannier mounts I had to return. Obviously a Mark's rack
will work.

 By the way, I only inflate the tires to 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh
> about 200#. With the length of the chain stays, the low pressure tires, and
> the geometry, It's like riding in a 1962 Chevy Impala and for me, that's
> really good.
>

My first car was a '62 Impala. Wish I never sold it.

>
>
> Thanks for the response,


Hugh

>
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>>
>>> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
>>> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>>>
>>
>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>
>>>
>>> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer
>>> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it
>>> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so
>>> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
>>> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
>>> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>>>
>>
>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you
>> can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one
>> for ourselves?
>>
>>>
>>> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>>>
>>
>> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a
>> set for mine.
>>
>>>
>>> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They
>>> are strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>>>
>>
>> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to
>> the white industries myself.
>>
>>>
>>> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly
>>&

[RBW] ISO-WTB 90's XTR derailleurs.

[Hugh Smitham]

Yes it's me again. Looking for M9xx series front and rear derailleurs. If 
you don't know this the early gen XTR. So m950/51 are 1st gen XTR. If you 
have one or both sitting in your parts crate with no plans to use shoot me 
a DM. 

Best Regards,

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 1:49 PM Ben Mihovk  wrote:

> Here's my Atlantis in its second home, my classroom! It's a 2019 MIT frame
> that I purchased with a very standard build up from Rivendell about a year
> ago.


Ben,

Great looking Atlantis.

>
>- 59cm
>- Choco bars with an amateurishly wrap and twine job, shellac'd cork
>grips
>- Microshift thumbies in the flipped Riv style working a Deore M591 in
>the rear and IRD Sub-C on the front
>- Clipper wide/low 42/26 with 11-32 cassette
>- Wheels are the standard Rivendell Atlas design built by Velocity
>with 42mm Shikoros
>- SKS P50sBen
>
> I love my Choco bars, I've toyed with wrapping them like you have in the
curves but I love the polished aluminum. By the way it doesn't look that
amateurish to me, looks great!

I know nothing about these Shikoro's, I presume they are from Japan?

What is a clipper wide low? I know it's a crank set but I've never heard of
the clipper brand?

Regarding the Deore M591, is 32 it's max cog? Or can it go to 36?


> I've added...
>
>- The cheap (and very light!) rear rack
>- Mark's rack
>- Fun green valve caps
>- Yokozuna salmon brake pads
>- Iris bottle cage
>- X-Small saddle bag up front carries flat fix stuff and trail passes
>- Slimsucker is laptop, books, layers, etc...
>
>


> What I'm thinking about doing...
>
>- Changing out the SV19 with the SV17...I'm not a weight weenie, but
>the bike would drop a half pound just with different tubes
>-
>
> I went tubeless, never looking back.

>
>- I love the Shikoros...no punctures on over a year of commuting on
>city streets. I might try an endurance casing RH or the Supple Vitesse EX
>next, though...
>
> I'm personally going with the RH 27.5″ x 2.2″ (650B x 55) Umtanum Ridge TC
Tire with endurance casing on my dirt centric Atlantis.

>
>- Toying with converting to drops, but I can't find a shifting
>solution I like as much as what I have...I don't like the look of bar end
>shifters, I like the stem.
>
> https://www.gevenalle.com/product/audax/

This is an option.

Ben Thanks for sharing your Atlantis, I really appreciate the build,
remember to let us see your changes and what led you to make them and
whether they worked to your satisfaction?

Best Regards,

Hugh in LA

>
> Ben in Omaha
> [image: 1.jpg][image: 2.jpg][image: 3.jpg][image: 4.jpg][image: 5.jpg]
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 12:40:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Hugh,
>
> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>

Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.

>
> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer
> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it
> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so
> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>

Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you
can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one
for ourselves?

>
> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>

Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a set
for mine.

>
> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They are
> strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>

Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to the
white industries myself.

>
> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly thought
> of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the level of
> build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>

Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them a
lot.

>
> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never
> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger
> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear
> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to
> friction shifters.
>

When I started mountain biking in the mid-80s I got used to using the early
trigger shifters and I really like them a lot, not so much for aesthetics.
These days I've become more comfortable with friction, however I've been
considering trigger shifters for my next build.

>
> 6.  I'm also attaching photos of my cockpit.  The bars Nitto Bullmoose.
> They are partially lugged and the stem is built in.  The headset is a Cane
> Creek 100 EC30 threaded.  Cockpits are very personal.  They play a central
> role in rider comfort.  For me, the slight sweep (30 degrees) of these bars
> is perfect.  They also provide a couple of different places for my hands
> and several places to locate things I attach to the bars.
>

Totally agree with your thoughts on cockpits. I've been curious about the
bullmoose bars, but have been unsure of their fixed nature. Meaning you
can't feather the bars downward. I'm really Bosco curious, I plan on trying
the Ultraromance idea to bend a set of chromo wider.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUfkin3Fdkr/?utm_medium=share_sheet


7.  The Bitex rear hub, which James recommended, roles very smoothly and,
important to me, very quietly.  It's Taiwan made and has been problem
free.  It's also available in silver.


Good to know I've know very little about these hubs. I'm getting ready to
build a wheel set, I tend to gravitate towards white industry rear hubs but
it is noisy. Probably going to go with a shutter precision or Son 28 Dyno
hub.

>
> 8.  Paul Motolite brakes were essential given the wheel/tire/fender
> combination I chose.
>

Is that because the Motolites give you more room?

>
> Happy to answer any other questions.
>

Thank you,

Hugh in LA

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