Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!
Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have had from them were all built incredibly well. 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do it. Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote: > I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from > Universal Cycles. They were in stock and and my custom spec order took > about a week to lace up and ship to me. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F wrote: > > I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! > > > Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame on > ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! I'll do > a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to see > what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can > confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger. > On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > >> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame >> for the shortage? Double-edged sword... >> >> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it could >> sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s hope >> another batch is in the works. >> >> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were >> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! >> Leah >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller wrote: >> >> >> >> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at >> 12:05. And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a direct >> result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike! >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky wrote: >> >>> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers! >>> >>> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their >>> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: ‘Yeah, >>> probably.’ >>> >>> 8^} >>> >>> David >>> >>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP wrote: >>> >>> >>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm >>> for this bike? >>> >>> dougP >>> >>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike >>>> selling this quickly? >>>> >>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth wrote: >>>> >>>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment >>>> >>>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out >>>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out >>>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out >>>> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing. I wanted the MERMAID >>>>> but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive. We'll see what happens. I clicked >>>>> as fast as I could on the dot! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says >>>>>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if >>>>>> you'd like to trade! :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do >>>>>>> a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You might be in luck. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I >>
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
I am thrilled to see these go so fast. I am humming and hawing about making a financially irresponsible decision to buy a 60cm for myself! They look so good. I hope everything gets sorted on the color for those of you wanting mermaid but with a lime-olive invoice. Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:15:41 PM UTC-7 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote: > Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing. I wanted the MERMAID but > it auto purchased the Lime/Olive. We'll see what happens. I clicked as > fast as I could on the dot! > > > On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote: > >> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says >> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if >> you'd like to trade! :) >> >> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a >>> 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm. >>> >>> You might be in luck. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote: >>> >>>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I >>>> missed out... >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says >>>>> $1650. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's >>>>>> joke? Wishful thinking? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan P. >>>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the >>>>>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has >>>>>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an >>>>>>> extra $100 to make. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From Platy Page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us >>>>>>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an >>>>>>> award >>>>>>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import >>>>>>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the >>>>>>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in >>>>>>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan P. >>>>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every >>>>>>>> chance I get! Good luck, all! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the >>>>>>>> east coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked >>>>>>>>> about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's joke? Wishful thinking? Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: > While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning in > the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 3-4 > weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, hence > the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to > make. > > From Platy Page: > > "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us about > $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a > wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an award > winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers." > > But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import > taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the > price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in > particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! > > Jonathan P. > Seattle, WA > On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > >> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every chance I >> get! Good luck, all! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth wrote: >> >> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east >> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote: >> >>> Note posted on Riv’s website last night: >>> >>> NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked about >>> it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed Mar 31 8:40 >>> p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able to sell them >>> that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us considerably >>> more than a Sam, Homer, etc... >>> >>> The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your side, >>> and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote: >>> >>>> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter (depending on >>>> tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25” >>>> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike >>>> >>>> David Lipsky >>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson wrote: >>>> >>>> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, >>>> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 would be >>>> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to >>>> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike dimensions >>>> for >>>> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the info >>>> on the Riv site. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald wrote: >>>> >>>>> The bike looks good in its element. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 miles >>>>>> and this is what all the PlatyPeople have to look forward to. Look at >>>>>> that >>>>>> luscious silhouette. Coming soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two more days, my friends... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Philip Barrett >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Weight does matter and your advice is very sage & spot on. A sub >>>>>> 30lb bike (unloaded) is a good goal, it will accelerate nicely away from >>>>>> a >>>>>> stop, be able to maintain momentum on hills & with headwinds & you will >>>>>>
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sort of my reference point, that's about 1/2lb & easy to >>>>> remember. Below that I think we're at semantics, above & we've got real >>>>> gains to be had. Also, think about how much permanent carrying capacity >>>>> you >>>>> really need, even the best racks are heavy & for occasional big loads >>>>> there's plenty of temporary options that are easily removed once you get >>>>> back from Trader Joes (I picked up coffee today). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 7:11:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Aw shucks, it was my pleasure. I’m so happy that you were able to >>>>>> make the right call re: your Dad’s forever bike. What color did you >>>>>> score? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lastly, one final tip from me... I’d spend the money you saved buying >>>>>> light parts, if the bike is not a complete. The Clems are gems, as I >>>>>> like >>>>>> to say, but they are stout. Analog Cycles has been really resourceful in >>>>>> getting my Clem lightened up. I know I’m sticking my neck way out here >>>>>> because there are 10 guys at least waiting to tell me weight doesn’t >>>>>> matter, but that is just not my experience. It matters. Especially when >>>>>> you’re older. “Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.” >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best to your dad and his new Clem! And to you if you get a >>>>>> Platy - be sure to let us know. >>>>>> Leah >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Jonny P wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my >>>>>> dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My >>>>>> dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go >>>>>> through >>>>>> that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that >>>>>> if >>>>>> we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident >>>>>> will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up >>>>>> from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the >>>>>> Clem >>>>>> L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so >>>>>> excited to see. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a >>>>>> 59cm Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out >>>>>> that >>>>>> they had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the >>>>>> coming week. >>>>>> >>>>>> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, >>>>>> maybe I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my >>>>>> custom >>>>>> frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the >>>>>> wild. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan P. >>>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between >>>>>>> Platy and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn >>>>>>> pants >>>>>>> instead of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube >>>>>>> hits, but it’s passable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better >>>>>>> for you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:1
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Same -- I like when things fall in place. As a side note, Will told me about 50 Clem L frames will be available in June. Completes will be available near the end of the year. Jonathan P. Seattle, WA 98108 On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 3:19:55 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I love when a plan comes together. I think you and your dad made a wise > choice, those Clems are super extra great bikes. He's going to love it! > > > > On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 2:00:52 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: > >> Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's >> bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was >> totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that >> effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we >> are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will >> fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from >> his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- >> still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited >> to see. >> >> The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm >> Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they >> had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming >> week. >> >> I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe >> I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame >> being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. >> >> Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. >> >> Jonathan P. >> Seattle, WA >> >> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy >>> and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead >>> of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits, but >>> it’s passable. >>> >>> If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for >>> you - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way. >>> Leah >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P wrote: >>> >>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the >>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through >>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW >>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to >>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper >>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. >>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like >>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it >>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. >>> >>> >>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? >>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying >>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- >>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a >>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. >>> >>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? >>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could >>> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts? >>> >>> Thank you both! >>> >>> Jonathan P. >>> Seattle, WA >>> >>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> >>>> Jonathan, >>>> >>>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a >>>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher >>>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where >>>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the >>>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're >>>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and >>>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and &g
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Leah's video was a HUGE help in the decision making process for my dad's bike. It highlighted the differences and dismounting very well. My dad was totally blown away that someone would be so kind as to go through that effort for a stranger. I was, too. Ultimately, my dad decided that if we are spending this kind of money, he wants a bike that he is confident will fit until his days on earth are through. This will be a big step up from his Surly. So, we're going from the gorgeous mermaid platy to the Clem L -- still a beautiful bike -- but just not that pretty color I was so excited to see. The RBW community came through as well in helping me track down a 59cm Clem L complete. Mark of Saturday Cycles in SLC, UT reached out that they had one in stock. It will be packed up and sent to the PNW in the coming week. I got a referral bonus at work and depending on my partner, Elise, maybe I will get a platypus of my own. It will hold me over until my custom frame being built by a friend in SLC, UT is done this summer. Thank you all! I cannot wait to see wild Platypii here and in the wild. Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy > and Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead > of a tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits, but > it’s passable. > > If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you > - step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way. > Leah > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P wrote: > > Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the > decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through > is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW > propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to > discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper > angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. > When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like > difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it > seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. > > > Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? > Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying > the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- > it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a > comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. > > Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? > My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could > handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts? > > Thank you both! > > Jonathan P. > Seattle, WA > > On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Jonathan, >> >> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a >> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher >> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where >> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the >> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're >> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and >> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and >> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over >> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would >> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. >> >> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: >> >>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call >>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not >>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is >>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I >>> will be sure to get one. >>> >>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in >>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He >>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he >>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top >>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with >>> 700c
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts? Thank you both! Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > Jonathan, > > I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a > 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher > than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where > you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the > toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're > describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and > could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and > look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over > ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would > fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. > > On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote: > >> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call >> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not >> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is >> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I >> will be sure to get one. >> >> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the >> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized >> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost >> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He >> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c >> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista >> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with >> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with >> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 >> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus >> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire >> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a >> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a >> better position, and ease of getting on and off. >> >> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is >> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? >> >> Jonathan P. >> Seattle, WA >> >> >> >> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your >>> dad know about his new bike? >>> >>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made >>> her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly >>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, >>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my >>> tiny hometown, pop 200. >>> >>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid >>> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and >>> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service >>> announcement. Something... >>> >>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise
[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT
I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he ages and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a platypus but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want it, I do. Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Good grief what a build/price! That's one bad ass Cheviut. I emailed > some questions. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote: > >> $1850 Shipped (CONUS) >> Hi Friends >> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam >> Hillborne frameset. >> Ceviot Specs: >> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer >> Schwalbe Marathon >> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight. >> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double >> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer >> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem" >> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed. >> Stem mounted shifter. >> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance. >> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available. >> >> Thanks for looking >> DM off list is interested. >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7 >> >> Howard Hatten >> Livonia Mi. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a4f0820d-5b1d-481f-9789-c963c7c05d4dn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I will be sure to get one. My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a better position, and ease of getting on and off. Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad > know about his new bike? > > Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her > account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly > retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, > won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my > tiny hometown, pop 200. > > I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid > color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and > I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service > announcement. Something... > > On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote: > >> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be >> awesome. >> >> Emily >> >> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P wrote: >> >> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! >> I am so excited to see it and get it all built up! >> >> >> Jonathan P. >> Seattle, WA >> >> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: >> >>> >>> It was in Friday’s mailer. Yeah!!! >>> >>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm >>> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're >>> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even >>> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order. >>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote: >>> >>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was >>>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through >>>> this >>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of >>>> when >>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell? >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> Seattle, WA >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote: >>>> >>>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that >>>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the >>>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and >>>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted >>>>>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the >>>>>> R90 >>>>>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will >>>>>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34 capable MTB >>>>>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less >>>>
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up! Jonathan P. Seattle, WA On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote: > > It was in Friday’s mailer. Yeah!!! > > *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm > PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're > going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even > though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order. > On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote: > >> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was >> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this >> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when >> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell? >> >> Jonathan >> Seattle, WA >> >> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote: >> >>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that >>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the >>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and >>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes. >>> >>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote: >>> >>>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: >>>> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace >>>> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with >>>> a >>>> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34 capable MTB rear >>>> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than >>>> the big name parts makers. >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same >>>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c >>>>> >>>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The >>>>>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are >>>>>> off >>>>>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the >>>>>> final >>>>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses >>>>>> will >>>>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are >>>>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and >>>>>> gets >>>>>> more bodies on Platys sooner. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. >>>>>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch < >>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding >>>>>> Ding! wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leah, >>>>>>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. >>>>>>>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art! >
Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!
Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell? Jonathan Seattle, WA On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote: > As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size > and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the > smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and > awkward compared to the smaller sizes. > > On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote: > >> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: >> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace >> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with a >> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34 capable MTB rear >> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than >> the big name parts makers. >> >> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: >> >>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same >>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c >>> >>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, >>> wrote: >>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks! Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets more bodies on Platys sooner. I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below: Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?! On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella wrote: > > > > > Here’s a Platypus Easter twist > > Ray > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote: > >> Leah, >> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. I'm >> too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art! >> Doug >> >> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike >>> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. >>> >>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new >>> Platys for us to admire! >>> >>> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. >>> >>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote: >>> Leah, That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments! You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front derailer is on there? Thank you! Best, Rich in ATL On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote: > I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness > Protection Program now. > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard > wrote: > >> That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and bags >> is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CRAZY. As the kids >> would >> say, it's ridiculous! Excellent work all around from Leah the >> parts/paint >> picker, Analog Cycles for the parts/ano, and the pro shop that put >> it all >> together. And Grant/Riv for the bike! >> >> Joe "I have a custom and I'm still jealous of Leah's bike" Bernard >> >> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding >> Ding! wrote: >> >>> (This message should have preceded my photos, but it was too >>> large and was not sent. Since the file is too large, you can see it >>> on >>> Instagram or the Facebook groups if you like.) >>> >>> Well, while we wait for the ship to be unloaded (MONDAY! 拾), I >>> made a video of my Platy because...IT’S FINALLY
[RBW] WTB 59cm Clem Smith Jr. L - Frameset preferable
Hi all -- I am working on building my older father a bike. He has finally accepted he cannot use drops anymore and that he cannot swing his leg over the top tube of his bike. So, I introduced him to the idea of building a Clem L, and he is excited and on board. He uses a Clean Republic Hilltopper front wheel e-assist on his surly he currently rides. This has standard 100mm spacing -- so the front wheel will work just fine in a Clem Smith Jr. Fork. It is a very minor assist, but helps him get up the hills near his house just west of Portland, OR. If any of you have thoughts of selling your Clem Smith Jr. L in 59cm size, please reach out. We are willing to pay up to the retail cost provided the condition of the frame and the inclusion of Headset, Bottom Bracket, and Seatpost as the frame comes directly from Rivendell. Thank you! Jonathan Pearson Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/aec6fcda-04d3-4bad-a6e7-e3b3095480a8n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?
I mean, it may just be me, but I feel like the Crust Romanceur with a 26" wheelset is a great alternative for those of you wanting a Disc Hunqapillar-ish bike at a Taiwan price. I am still lusting after a true Hunqapillar, but my Romanceur with Velocity Duallys and RTP tires is pretty darned comparable to my friends 56cm 650b Hunqapillar that I rode. The Hunq just felt a little bit longer/heavy/Rivendell-esque. Jonathan Seattle, WA On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:30:33 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike" thread > (full disclosure: I also sent an email to Roman @ Riv), I guess I'll > campaign for it on its own thread. > > I know Grant/Riv isn't big on disc brakes, but a lot of people prefer them > in the dirt. I'm not sure there's much of a market for a pricier > fully-lugged disc Riv, but a Hunqapillar-ish semi-TIGed 650B model in the > Clem/Roadini price range would be the bee's pajamas. Would you buy a Riv > dirt bike (I'm campaigning for a small "dirt bike" decal, too) with > mechanical discs? > > Joe "weak hands" Bernard > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: UnRacer community in SLC?
SLC has a very underrated cycling scene. Sure, there are plenty of Tour of Utah types, but I miss living at the south end of Salt Lake County, honestly. I helped direct the Provo branch of the Bicycle Collective while in my undergrad studies. I loved it there. My dearest friends -- many Riv/Bridgestone types all were from the Collective. Most of us have moved to the coasts now Every Monday night in Provo there is a very unRacer style ride. It usually involves a slow pace up a nearby canyon or on country roads out to the mountains on the west side of Utah Lake. Salt Lake has the 999 ride that had a Hilsen and Hunqapillar present the last time I rode with the group (Oct 2017). We rode up City Creek Canyon, shared some beverages, then a smaller group of us stuck around and rode for Tacos near the mouth of Little Cottonwood Canyon. Saturday Cycles is the only traditional LBS I am aware of that will meet what you're looking for. However, I have friends who work a Bingham Cyclery as managers/mechanics who are Riv folk. The Big S customers just help more to pay the bills, I suppose? On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 4:39:26 PM UTC-7, Keenan Cummings wrote: > It's kinda easy to draw a map of Riv-style riders just based on where the > bike shops are that build these kinds of bikes. We have plenty here in the > bay, and I've found a good handful on Instagram across the states. > > As far as I can tell, the bike shops in SLC are your standard fare, which > often means the riding community is donning spandex and clocking metrics. > Curious if anyone knows what bike life is like in Salt Lake City and Utah > in general for the UnRacer. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
