[RBW] Close enough to the real thing?

[L. J. Charlton]

So I was looking at this ebay listing 
and
 
wondered..."Does this reflect the spirit of the original XO-1?"  It's TIG 
welded rather than lugged.  Different tubing. 

Thoughts?  Has Grant ever spoken to this?

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[RBW] Re: Sam"s versatility

[L. J. Charlton]

To expand on Michael's question a bit...

One probably can't argue that a Sam is a very versatile bike.  But I, like 
Michael, am considered a "Clydesdale" in the biking world.  In describing 
the Sam, Grant said it is enough like a Homer that he can't tell the 
difference between the two once upon one or another.  When also describing 
a Homer he mentioned that one could easily add 20 or 30 pounds and embark 
on an overnight trip.  Well, 20 or 30 pounds added to a frame's load when 
one weighs 150 or 170 pounds is far different than 30 pounds of additional 
baggage when one weighs 240 lb.

So a further question is:  can a Sam, even a 2TT one, handle a regular 260+ 
lb load or should a heavier-boned rider look toward an Atlantis or Hunq 
even if the bike would not truly be used for touring or trail riding?

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[L. J. Charlton]

Thanks Justin, but I am 55 years old and live in the hills of Pittsburgh.  
I don't think a single speed will work for me.  Thanks for the offer, 
though.
 

On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 8:57:45 PM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still got a SimpleOne here...
>
> On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 6:32:18 AM UTC-7, L. J. Charlton wrote: 
>>
>>  Ken,  I definitely will not drop $3k on this frame.  Like I wrote above 
>> that amount buys me a new bike.  My take-away from some of the comments 
>> above was that I could manage a 59cm given my 89 PBH.  Thanks for the 
>> repost of the custom build.  It is tempting but also a half cm smaller.  
>> Patience is a virtue, I guess...  Maybe someone else here will offer 
>> something.
>>  
>> Larry  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[L. J. Charlton]

Ken,  I definitely will not drop $3k on this frame.  Like I wrote above 
that amount buys me a new bike.  My take-away from some of the comments 
above was that I could manage a 59cm given my 89 PBH.  Thanks for the 
repost of the custom build.  It is tempting but also a half cm smaller.  
Patience is a virtue, I guess...  Maybe someone else here will offer 
something.
 
Larry  

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[L. J. Charlton]

I know I said this dealer was known for asking above-market prices (and as 
was said here, that's his prerogative) but this is ridiculous.  I will copy 
his response verbatim:
 

 Thanks for the inquiry and interest.  Great choice.

Because we are willing and able to furnish any bike with a choice of 
component changes both major and minor, pricing is most flexible.

We can upgrade to any special need or even 'de tune' in the case of a 
price-based decision and lower level of investment.

As currently built we have this listed at $3200.

That's not much more than Waterford and Rivendell get for a bare frame and 
fork these days

If it were smaller it would have disappeared long ago and would have been 
priced higher, though I might have been tempted to hoard it in the personal 
livery

 

If you can appreciate a great opportunity and are a little impulsive, get 
us a small deposit before we close out the third quarter at the end of this 
month and our bean counter will show her appreciation for taking it off 
inventory and make a nice contribution of $200 

Like an even greater opportunity and feeling little more impulsive?

pay and take it by the end of the month and I will match her offer

 

Please let me know when you can visit so I can have it here to see

"As currently built" is with no front or rear derailleur or chain.  Add 
those items and I'd be up the the cost of a brand new AAH.  Okay, he 
offered to knock $400 off so we're really at $2800 plus the cost of the 
added hardware.  So it's the equivalent of a new Sam.   Still, I think I'll 
pass...  (Should I tell him?)

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[L. J. Charlton]

Yes, a typo.  I have an 89 PBH.  I'll see if I can edit the original post 
to avoid confusing others.  Thank you.  

On Monday, September 1, 2014 12:40:41 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> What is your actual PBH.  Your PBH is not 59.  That has to be a typo. 
>  What is it really?

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[RBW] All Rounder available - help me before it disappears

[L. J. Charlton]

I was perusing the bikes for sale at Mt. Airy bikes (DC area) and 
unexpectedly came across this: 
 http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804

I've been longing for a Riv but haven't seen one that said, "Buy me."  This 
does.  But I have two questions before I give them a call:

1.  Solely from talking to other bike shops it seems the proprietor has a 
reputation over-pricing his used bikes.  With the understanding that 
various regions and markets value bikes differently, what would be a 
reasonable price for a 1995 All Rounder on the east coast?

2.  I can't for the life of me find a sizing chart for the All Rounder.  I 
have a 59 PBH.  Reading this , 
which is very general, indicates that I could fit a 59cm but it would be on 
the small side.  Any help with sizing would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Larry  

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[RBW] Someone here may be interested...

[L. J. Charlton]

My apologies if I am breaking protocol -- some groups do not like FS 
postings if the poster doesn't own the item -- but I thought there may be 
interest in the Pittsburgh Craigslist ad for a 66cm Qucikbeam.

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/bik/4486922091.html

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[RBW] Re: 5/3 All lugged steel Populaire including 3 Rivs

[L. J. Charlton]

The "strange tricycle like vehicle" is an ELF.  Have an extra $6k sitting 
around?  http://organictransit.com


On Monday, May 5, 2014 1:34:08 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Six intrepid randonneurs set out to ride approximately sixty-eight miles 
> on a beautiful spring morning this last Saturday.  We departed from central 
> Austin and rode out to the nearby community of Taylor and returned to 
> Austin.  All completed the ride successfully and a good time was had by 
> all.  Our group included visitors from both coasts - one from the DC area 
> and one from the Bay Area.  Of note, all bikes used on the ride were lugged 
> steel.  This included two custom Rivs, a Simpleone equipped with a Rohloff, 
> a 1984 Miyata, a 1985 Trek and a Medici.
>
> Pics at the turnaround control:
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsjXgCeE9
>
> I also attempted to take a few pics of a strange tricycle like vehicle we 
> encountered, it appeared to be a hybrid tricycle with a large protective 
> body on it.  Two of the shots didn't hit their mark but those shots did 
> give a good depiction of my front fender and tire while in motion and the 
> other shot gives a good idea of Texas quality chip seal.  But anyway :)
>
>
>
> -- 
> Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! 
>

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