[RBW] Re: DC Riv Dealer Figures Visually in TV Piece

[Pat Smith]

This is awesome, been meaning to get over to Happy Go. I'm all in on the CT 
Ave bike lanes, obviously, but calling it "suburban" is a bit of a 
misnomer, it's entirely within DC city limits!
Patrick in Petworth

On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 1:33:03 PM UTC-4 ian m wrote:

> I was in DC the weekend after the Nat'l bike summit, which my wife 
> attended, and we rode the Capital Crescent to Rock Creek with a dedicated 
> stop at Happy Go. The owner (whose name I can't recall) was incredibly 
> friendly and we chatted about infrastructure and how obnoxious it is that 
> wealthy residents oppose traffic calming or more livable streets when it 
> would interrupt their god-given right to park in front of Starbucks. Hoping 
> the improvements move forward! Also what a great shop
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 10:22:51 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> Here in suburban DC we have been battling to get a bike lane put in on 
>> our main commuter route.  The Mayor was all in until about a month ago, so 
>> now the City Council is standing up to her.  Basically, it would head from 
>> the top of DC downtown as a protected lane and would be huge win.
>>
>> I do local advocacy and the TV reporter (yes, a cyclist) reached out to 
>> me, I said meet me at our LBS Riv dealer, Happy Go.  I am off my bike for a 
>> week or so, so my Platty did not make an appearance, but Happy Go did.  And 
>> that is my head talking in favor.
>>
>> Link to story 
>> 
>>
>> Steve Seelig
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Manivelle basket rack on Sam Hillborne

[Pat Smith]

I've been using a wald 137 with a tote bag from Sim Works for commuting for 
a few years. It's just a hair too small, mostly due to the fact my 13" 
laptop doesn't quite lay flat. The Manivelle seems like the perfect size 
but then I'd have to get a custom made bag to fit. Really adds some cost. 
I'd just be getting the basket and not the attachment hardware, but I have 
seen many positive reviews about the "total package".

Smitty in DC 

On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 8:06:57 PM UTC-5 Teague Scott wrote:

> Thanks for your 2c.
>
> I like that the Manivelle's size is between that of the 137 and 139. I've 
> found a 137 jst a little tight for shoulder season (need for warm gear) 
> overnighters here in SW Idaho. The 137 is a little too big for my needs and 
> begs for extra, unnecessary s%*! ... Either way, I try to minimize weight 
> in a basket and use it for soft stuff only – sleeping bag & clothes. 
> Heavier stuff (food, beer, stove, tool kit, steripen, extra tube, 
> "shelter") rides in a saddlebag. A Z-rest pad migrates between front and 
> rear depending on how frequently I find myself digging for stuff in the 
> saddlebag. A Jandd partial framebag and stem bag help alleviate most 
> digging.
>
> I've tried both the 137 and 139 on a Mark's rack. Both work, but IMO the 
> 139 is too much basket for the Mark's platform.
>
> My most recent front rasket setup, the 139 & surly front rack, weights 
> 4.75 lbs 😱
> The Manivelle looks to weigh ~2.8 lbs
>
> This ongoing experimentation has been taking place on a big Black Mountain 
> Cycles MXC.
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 3:59:08 PM UTC-7 Tim Tom wrote:
>
>> Hi Teague - take my comments with many grains of salt because I am still 
>> gaining experience with it….that said I find it very solid and I have no 
>> doubt it will remain solid under its max 10kg (??) capacity.  The mounting 
>> kit is high quality and sturdy- much more so than I expected for the 
>> price.  My only concern with max loads is not the rasket, but the hit to 
>> stability and performance which varies from bike to bike. I even noticed 
>> this with my 13lb gym bag.  Its not awful, but noticeable at lowest speeds 
>> IMHO. Really the only thing giving me pause from buying a second Maniville 
>> for my Appa is that it might be nice to have an easily removable basket on 
>> this Sam - and since so many others do the Marks / Wald combo there is a 
>> reasonable chance I will learn they are right!  Until that time…I am having 
>> fun with this $94 solution!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:13 PM Teague Scott  wrote:
>>
>>> This rasket has had me intrigued for a while now! Cool to see one in use 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> What do you think of the Manivelle? How does it hold up to a decent 
>>> load? Does it get a little noodly? I'd plan on using it on my basketpacker. 
>>> I currently use a big ol' Surly rack with a 139 strapped to it. Works well 
>>> and feels solid, but it's a hefty setup that I'd like to pare down a little.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Teague in Boise
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Re: [RBW] Re: lowrider rack advice / recommendations

[Pat Smith]

If you're willing to do a full upper rack with low riders the Pelago 
commuter with optional low rider attachment looks really slick.


On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 7:44:46 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> I appreciate this thread, was having the same question/thought process for 
> my appaloosa too and was thinking of starting a similar thread. Any users 
> of the marks hub area rack- does it only work for mini panniers or could 
> you mount regular back o bike bags to it? any favorite dedicated lowrider 
> racks? in my research i found the tubus variety, marks, nitto s rack..
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 12:21:12 AM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Oh, photo for proof - in an area that was burned not 1 month later from 
>> the Mosquito Fire :(
>> [image: PXL_20220723_235920416.jpg]
>> Collin in Burntown
>>
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[RBW] Re: Kid's First Pedal Bike (Riv parent edition)

[Pat Smith]

I have a giant 3yo that has been crushing it on their balance bike. I opted 
for a 14" Guardian bike based on the reviews from TwoWheelingTots. I can't 
believe how heavy it is. Even using it as a balance bike my 3yo is unable 
to control it and has lost interest. Wish I would have sprang for the 
Woom...

Smitty in DC 

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:01:06 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I will second the Woom series of bikes for kids. The owner has been been 
> very responsive over the years to my complaints about the early wooms and 
> now there's very little to fault about them. The joy a kid has on a nice 
> bike coming down an MTB trail cannot be beat: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/wfaaXekGtGojqDoe8, 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KzNpJ69adZiCrgxDA
>
> We bought Woom 2, 3, and then when the off versions came out the off 
> versions of the 4 and 5. Rather than get a 6, I found a used Salsa 
> Journeyman 50cm which worked out well for less money than a new Woom 6.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> We've been using both the Woom 2 and Woom 3 as first pedal bikes for our 
>> two kids (now 3.5 and 6.5). My kids are pretty rough on the bikes and I've 
>> never had any mechanical issues with them aside from adjusting the brakes 
>> every now and then. We do always keep them in the garage when not in use. 
>>
>> My younger just moved from a Woom 2 to a Woom 3 and it seems to fit her 
>> just fine. She probably could have used the Woom 2 for a few more months, 
>> but with the slightly lower gearing, she was spinning out on it quite a bit 
>> and we had the seat almost all the way up. I think you're right that if you 
>> went with the 14" Woom 2 that your kid would outgrow it pretty quickly. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 2:55:09 PM UTC-6 fiddl...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Since RBW regrettably doesn't make kids hillibikes, I'm going to have to 
>>> go a bit outside of my comfort zone to pick out a first pedal bike for my 
>>> son. He's ~3.5yo, and more than ready to move up from his 12" balance bike.
>>>
>>> Any tips from other parents who have recently gone through the switch 
>>> from balance to pedals? I'm leaning toward something like a Woom 3 (16"), 
>>> since they seem to be very well regarded, and I'm afraid he would outgrow a 
>>> 14" bike too soon at this point to justify the expense. (am I wrong?) 
>>> Probably also worth noting that a lot of his riding is currently on trails, 
>>> so I'm definitely looking for something that will work well off-pavement, 
>>> too. Anyhow, I'll take any advice the group is willing to throw at me - 
>>> thanks in advance for your help!
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: basket bag for wald 137

[Pat Smith]

I've had a WB Loader as a daily carry on my commuter for a few years. I 
really like the overall design - materials, size, features. There's just 
two minor things I don't like - 

1) The front pocket REALLY needs a button or some other closure, I had my 
phone fly out and crack just hitting a small bump on a sidewalk. I've since 
added my own button without too much difficulty.
2) Where the large velcro strap covers the roll top it rubs a patch of bare 
cordura every time and has started wearing pretty quickly. There should be 
a piece of nylon or some other harder wearing piece covering that strip.

Can't be beat for the price, some of the other 137 totes are easily double 
the price. 

Smitty in DC

On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 6:49:41 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> These are super nice and on sale! I love mine!
> https://www.sim.works/products/ral-wb-loader
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 6:37:39 PM UTC-7 Melanie wrote:
>
>> I’ve got this one:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:06 PM tellyoutoday  wrote:
>>
>>> Curious if anyone has a 137 bag they're not using.  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Pat Smith]

Kushan - that's right no room for my legs or knees! My flat bar hybrid bike 
provides the most clearance given it's long top tube but it was still 
uncomfortable. Mountain bikes with very long top tubes may do better. 

Smitty

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 12:26:40 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> Smitty - 
>
> May I ask what didn't work about the front seat set up? Was it leg 
> clearance for yourself? Being able to steer (as someone else pointed out 
> earlier). The set up videos of these seats make it look so easy to set up 
> and ride, so I am wondering if there is something specific (like size of 
> frame, presence of horizontal top tub etc) that makes it difficult to use 
> them. 
>
> I haven't spent much time on a bakfiet/cargo bike but they look so fun and 
> functional.
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:19:23 AM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Not too much to add other than I tried a front mounted seat at about 9-10 
>> months given that my kid was strong enough to hold their head up with a 
>> helmet. The top tube + baby seat wasn't functional on any of my 3 bikes. It 
>> didn't matter either way because the kid hated the bike helmet. I waited 
>> another 4 or 5 months till the next spring and went with a rear mounted 
>> bike seat, which the kid enjoyed. Been doing daily 9 mile round trip 
>> daycare pick-ups and here is a photo of the very last one before they 
>> started pre-school. Also just took them in for their 3 year check up and 
>> they are now 40 pounds, right at the weight limit for the Yepp Maxi seat.
>>
>> We have a 2nd due in January and I'm trying to figure out if it's worth 
>> it to get a box bike and adapt it to hold a baby in a car seat or if I 
>> should just give up on my dreams of getting the baby on the bike for the 
>> first year. DC is about to pass a $1000 rebate for cargo e-bikes purchased 
>> in the city so I've been eying my choice of future baby hauling machine. I 
>> imagine I'll wind up with a long tail but I need to do a lot of test rides 
>> first.
>>
>> Smitty in DC
>>
>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:08:49 AM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>>
>>> I've had my little dude on the back of the bike since he was 1. He loves 
>>> it. First I used my Sam but now I use my Karate Monkey. Its better for the 
>>> job.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC-4 
>>> ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:
>>>
 Burley recommends 20 months for their child trailer that’s very 
 conservative but the doting grandmother insisted so we did. After they 
 grew 
 out of it the trailer Was and is and excellent grocery and whatever hauler
 it have passed it around and is back at my house waiting for great 
 grandchildren

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 *Sent:* Saturday, September 2, 2023 7:21:53 AM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes 
  
 > We're riding a Big Dummy now, but it's less used for long rides

 Do you have one of the covers for the passengers? I’ve seen some with 
 these and it seems like a really neat option. I’ve been considering a 
 cargo 
 bike but I’m worried about the size of the bike making it tricky to park. 
 I 
 already have trouble navigating my Gus through the office elevator when I 
 ride it to work.

 On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 10:12 AM 'j glenn' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:



- I didn't get back into riding till my kid was at least 2, but I 
would highly recommend  a high quality solo trailer. We had a Burley 
 Bee.  
The trailer provided a safe roll cage around the kid and didn't effect 
 the 
bikes handing so I could get some real fitness riding in on a 20 mile 3 
playground tour.   We used it for longer rides untill he out grew it.   
  
The biggest advantage to the trailer was the environmental shelter it 
gave.  The mesh gover protected from sun an bugs and the plastic cover 
 from 
cold and rain.  We went out in all weather, including out in the snow 
 with 
studded tires.
- We're riding a Big Dummy now, but it's less used for long rides, 
as it's less comfortable and not as suitable for "wake me up when we 
 get 
there".  The back deck is better for standing up and surfing on though. 
  I 
have installed Quadrophonic scooters mirrors.


 On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 8:18:16 AM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 My son is about to turn one and I’ve had him in a rear mounted Thule 
 kids seat since he was about 8 months old. Before that, I played around 
 with mounting his car seat base to the metal frame of one of those 
 side-by-side kid trailers. I only ever use

[RBW] Re: How well does color anodizing stand up on off road bikes? VO Noir 622X63 mm fenders?

[Pat Smith]

Speaking of Tanaka - is there a vendor for Tanaka fenders in the US? It 
seems Soma is carrying just a few leftover sizes and their painted-to-match 
sizes, but not the full run like they used to.

Smitty in DC

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:49:33 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Patrick, the black aluminum fenders I've used (VO, Honjo, Tanaka) have all 
> been painted.Here's a pic of my Ritchey which I've been riding almost 
> exclusively on forest service roads and double track for about three years 
> now. The black Shimano cranks show some dings from rock strikes - but 
> that's it.  The rest of the bike; down tube, chain stays, fork blades and 
> fenders, are without scars. I'm continuously pleased by how clean the drive 
> train stays, even after rolling through mud. Just be sure to allow for 
> plenty of clearance between the tire and fender, like at least > 10mm. I 
> also gave up on trying to use a front mudflap off pavement as they tend to 
> pick up more sticks and leaves.  
>
> [image: IMG_1568.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 12:20:28 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I assume that fenders like cranks and racks and so forth are anodized and 
>> not painted; please correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>> I might install 60s on the Matt:1 in place of the current 80s (swapped 
>> from 60 mm to 50 mm tires). Bright silver will look odd on this bike, so 
>> I'd choose black. How durable is anodized color on fenders for a bike that 
>> will see some offroad use -- thickets, the occasional fall, rubbing against 
>> cottonwoods and so on. 
>>
>> I don't expect anodizing to be indelible but I'd not bother if it 
>> scratches very easily.
>>
>> I've used VO's narrower fenders: decent, perfectly acceptable, not as 
>> nice as Honjos; how well do they stand up to multi-terrain use in the 
>> widest sizes?
>>
>> BTW: If anyone has a pair of 622 X 60 - 65 in aluminum, dull smooth 
>> silver, "hammered" silver, or black, and cares to sell, I'd like to talk.
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bicycle Works new saddle coming out in September 2023

[Pat Smith]

Unfortunately Joe that prevents me from having any decent saddle to bar 
drop. As mentioned I run my bars lower than my saddle. The more aggressive 
brooks saddles didn't help either as they tend to be narrower. I'm on a 
Rivet brand saddle now which is a *little* better. 

Smitty in DC

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 12:21:30 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Smitty, your description of how you sit on a Brooks sounds like you don't 
> have the nose high enough. I had the same problem for ages until I took a 
> cue from Rich @ Riv (the wheelbuilder) and pointed mine way up. The trick - 
> which is admittedly very hard to tolerate long enough for it to work - is 
> too start with it so high that it feels weird..then don't touch it. Keep 
> riding like 10 miles and and you may find it feels great and you're sitting 
> near the center of the saddle. If not, drop it a very minor amount and do a 
> few more miles that way. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:15:53 PM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I always find myself (uncomfortably) sitting far back on Brooks and 
>> similar saddles, on the rivits or hard support structure. Or I find myself 
>> sliding into the nose. I wonder if the wider and slightly more modern shape 
>> of this new RBW saddle would be helpful. Not running bars above saddle 
>> height though. 
>>
>> Smitty in DC
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:03:26 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, Kim. This is so interesting to me. I find the B-17’s and 
>>> other saddles of similar width, like the Selle Anatomica, to be a bit too 
>>> narrow. Currently I’m happy riding B67 on my commuter and in-town bike, 
>>>  and B68s on my  Rivs,   However, I’d like to have a less fancy saddle on 
>>> my commuter, as I’m nervous about locking it up. 
>>>
>>> Roberta 
>>> Philadelphia 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:47:42 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I found this on the sub-Reddit site r/xbiking;


 https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/161zcw8/looks_like_rivs_new_plastic_saddle_is_coming_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=10&utm_content=1&rdt=63131

 Looks interesting with possibilities.

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bicycle Works new saddle coming out in September 2023

[Pat Smith]

I always find myself (uncomfortably) sitting far back on Brooks and similar 
saddles, on the rivits or hard support structure. Or I find myself sliding 
into the nose. I wonder if the wider and slightly more modern shape of this 
new RBW saddle would be helpful. Not running bars above saddle height 
though. 

Smitty in DC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:03:26 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Thank you, Kim. This is so interesting to me. I find the B-17’s and other 
> saddles of similar width, like the Selle Anatomica, to be a bit too narrow. 
> Currently I’m happy riding B67 on my commuter and in-town bike,  and B68s 
> on my  Rivs,   However, I’d like to have a less fancy saddle on my 
> commuter, as I’m nervous about locking it up. 
>
> Roberta 
> Philadelphia 
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:47:42 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I found this on the sub-Reddit site r/xbiking;
>>
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/161zcw8/looks_like_rivs_new_plastic_saddle_is_coming_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=10&utm_content=1&rdt=63131
>>
>> Looks interesting with possibilities.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling shoes for wide feet?

[Pat Smith]

I've really been enjoying my Specialized 2FO shoes for around town. Fit is 
forgiving and the insole supports well.

Smitty in DC

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 7:24:09 PM UTC-7 J wrote:

> Forgot the profile. Specialized Recon ADV
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 10:21:35 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> Alright Specialized, this is more like it. This is a more forgiving 
>> shaped toebox and a plain enough to be acceptably ignored
>>
>> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 9:22:03 PM UTC-4 samuelj...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Try on a pair of specialized recon 1.0. I have similarly wide feet and 
>>> my recons feel great. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.backcountry.com/b/specialized-recon-1.0-mountain-bike-shoe?CMP_SKU=SCQ0085&MER=0406&skid=SCQ0085-BLA-S440&mr:trackingCode=5276C7CA-1EC1-EA11-8114-005056944E17&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=m&mr:adType=plaonline&utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=213415717__p:G%7cs:BC%7cct:Shopping%7cct2:xx%7cg:xx%7cc1:Bike%7cc2:Apparel+Footwear%7cb:xx%7cmt:xx__145647854861__mt:xx+%7c+c1:Bike+%7c+c2:Apparel+Footwear+%7c+s:xx+%7c+b:specialized&utm_term=pla-2077693539340__SCQ0085-BLA-S440&utm_content=657561884570__pla&utm_id=go_cmp-213415717_adg-145647854861_ad-657561884570_pla-2077693539340_dev-m_ext-_prd-SCQ0085-BLA-S440_mca-7811_sig-Cj0KCQjw84anBhCtARIsAISI-xdtwrk3Oh8ZqQUXGWbnBI8Wdd0wZGEVeAvJARYFNyhw_qZfzQKSsA0aAp5qEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQjw84anBhCtARIsAISI-xdtwrk3Oh8ZqQUXGWbnBI8Wdd0wZGEVeAvJARYFNyhw_qZfzQKSsA0aAp5qEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 10:00 PM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, I've recently been on a similar search. My feet are wide, though 
 not overly so.  The bigger issue for me is that after a few years of 
 wearing exclusively foot-shaped shoes, such as Birkenstocks, Lems, and 
 Altras, and wearing Correct Toes to help with Morton's Neuroma, my feet 
 won't tolerate shoes that bunch up my toes.  My big toes are the worst 
 offenders and cycling shoes commonly go for a pointy look.  As a result, 
 even 'wide' cycling shoes that can accommodate high volume feet aren't 
 generally comfortable for me.  So, please take my thoughts here with a 
 grain of salt.

 Bont has a wide fitting that has a decent amount of room but the shape 
 at the front didn't work for me.  Many models (all?) are heat moldable, 
 making minor tweaks for comfort a possibility.  I just posted a pair of 
 those on i-BOB after deciding that a minor adjustment wasn't going to cut 
 it for me.  

 I also recently tried a series of Lakes on different lasts.  Lake's 
 Sport and Competition lasts in wide fittings offer a good bit of room but 
 still come to a bit of a point.  You might find they work for you, though. 
  
 The Race lasts are available in an extra wide that has a good bit of 
 volume 
 through the body of the shoe but similarly did not work for me.  Lake has 
 also introduced a Comfort Plus last (Lake Cycling Shoes – The Comfort 
 Plus Last 
 ).  
 They might win an award for 'least attractive cycling shoe' and the 
 mountain version I ordered won't win any weight weenie competitions, but 
 the fit is really good.  The picture of the sole is not far off from some 
 of the 'foot shape' shoes.  If you're considering the Stomp Lox, they 
 might 
 be an option.

 Specialized has a new last for their high-end shoes that they have 
 modified based on their in-house fittings.  It showed up recently in the 
 S-Works Recon model (S-Works Recon | Specialized.com 
 ).  I ordered a pair last 
 week that I'm pretty certain are going back.  I can confirm that they have 
 more volume than I expected.  I pulled the insole out and used a 
 half-length insert with metatarsal pad to free up toe room and it's 
 a...pretty good... fit.  But I don't want to pay that price for a shoe if 
 the fit is not just right.

 Shimano has a tour last (LAST TECHNOLOGY | SHIMANO GEAR 
 )
  
 that is supposed to be roomier as well.  I have a pair of SH-EX700s that 
 should land tomorrow.  I'll follow up if those turn out to be a winner.

 Finally, you already found the Stomp Lox.  I would have ordered a pair 
 of those earlier in this misadventure had Ron not been sold out.

 Good luck!
 Kurt Henry
 Lancaster, PA
 On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I noticed some discussion from other widefoot cyclists over in another 
> thread about a pair of Dromarti shoes that are for sale. At the risk of 
> further drifting a simple For Sale post I thought I'd start a new thread. 
>
> I wear

[RBW] Re: Shifters - UNO shifter

[Pat Smith]

Laing - thanks for confirming what I already thought, this is just the bar 
end specific version of the Dia Compe 11s shifter already on market. 
Interesting either way! Still have a nice set of ENE shifters mounted to 
Paul thumbies waiting for the right build. Suppose It will be a 9s or less 
build unless I want to spend a bunch more for an 11s shifter. 

Smitty in DC

On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 10:44:50 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Dia Compe already makes the thumbie and downtube version of the shifter. 
> The Uno is just the bar-end version. I tried unsuccessfully to mount the 
> downtube version to a bar end pod a while back, but had to grind away too 
> much of the pod.
>
> Even if you can change the freehub, you would need to re-dish the wheel. 
> Probably cheaper to change the wheel unless you build wheels yourself. Not 
> a big deal for me, I change hubs and rims all the time - I build my own 
> wheels.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:16:41 AM UTC-4 Stephanie A. wrote:
>
>> @Iconley--I was hoping I could swap the freehub to one that would fit an 
>> 11-speed cassette without changing the wheel's hub. I haven't taken it 
>> apart yet so I don't know what internals or measurements the current 
>> freehub has. I'm hoping it'll end up as less trouble than changing bb, 
>> cranks, and adding an fd for now.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 9:00:06 AM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Luke, I've got a couple for you - questions, that is.
>>>
>>> Will the Uno lever mount on a Shimano compatable Paul Thumbie ?I'm 
>>> thinking of replacing my current 11 speed Microshift. lever which I run 
>>> mounted on the Thumbie.  
>>>
>>> Also, what is the length of the Uno lever measured from say the pivot 
>>> point to the tip?
>>>
>>> I'm very interested in trying the lever, but with its premium price I 
>>> hesitate to make the investment without knowing a bit more info than what 
>>> the Soma website provides. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 12:20:28 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 You can use a 11s chain or a 12s chain if you so choose! Also, I work 
 there (Merry/Soma) so feel free to hit me with questions. 

 On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 4:43:41 PM UTC-7 Stephanie A. wrote:

> I'm looking forward to reading how you like it. The spouse wants more 
> gears and the fastest way to do it is to get him a 10- or 11-speed 
> cassette 
> and a friction shifter since his Breezer Downtown EX came as a 1x8.
> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 6:12:15 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Max,
>>
>> I saw the video where Russ announced this, and was also curious as 
>> I've got an 11sp Cassette in my parts bin with no current home. 
>>
>> I do think you need an 11sp chain, as the chain width and cassette 
>> spacing work most natively together. You may be able to get away with a 
>> 10sp chain depending on the company, so if you've got one it could be 
>> worth 
>> a try. 
>>
>> Primary difference between the Microshift and the Uno is the ratchet. 
>> I've got the microshift 11sp shifter on my gevanalle brifters and it 
>> works 
>> fine in index but the friction setting is a little frustrating without 
>> the 
>> ratchet. That paired with the fact that the Uno looks classy makes me 
>> feel 
>> like you still made the right call... especially for a Riv.
>>
>> Hope that's helpful!
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 2:51:40 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried the UNO? 
>>>
>>> If you don't know what I'm talking about check out this video from 
>>> Russ at The Path Less Pedaled. 
>>>  The shifter is a 
>>> collaboration between Soma, DiaCompe and Russ.  It's a friction shifter 
>>> that should take anything you throw at it including 11 or 12 speed, MTB 
>>> or 
>>> Road drivetrains. 
>>>
>>> I got to it because I'm considering a 1x set up on one of my bikes 
>>> and I want maximum flexibility and compatibility to allow me to use a 
>>> clutch and a SRAM RD if I choose to.
>>>
>>> Also, I've been fighting a CX-70 FD paired with White Industries 2x9 
>>> setup on my Hunqapillar. No matter how much I adjust it or how much I 
>>> trim, 
>>> certain combinations (of the ones I actually use) always have some rub. 
>>> I'm 
>>> still trying to get my hands on an IRD Sub-C FD which might allow me to 
>>> keep the current setup (I love the gearing I have with 42/24 chainrings 
>>> and 
>>> a 11-40 cassette) but I might want to switch things up.
>>>
>>> Long story short I bit the bullet and got an UNO. It feels really 
>>> solid and the ratchet sounds great. Also take a look, the thing is 
>>> massive 
>>> compared to a Silver2:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0495.jpeg]
>>

[RBW] Re: FS: Buncha parts...

[Pat Smith]

Hey nice to see you around - still using a pair of mudflaps you made :-)

I don't see pictures of the canvas front/rear bags at the link you sent. 
Are they still available? 

Smitty in DC

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 8:37:22 PM UTC-4 David B wrote:

> Garage cleaning. Been fairly content with my bike setups and haven’t felt 
> a tinkering need for a bit, so time to move on some stuff.
>
>  
>
> Prices INCLUDE shipping in US, IF you’re okay with my packing parts in 
> bubble-padded envelopes. 
>
>  
>
> It’s been a bit since I’ve sold or been on this list, but I’ve been around 
> for a while if you search the archives. I’m just west of Chicago if you’d 
> prefer to pickup. 
>
>  
>
> Strongly prefer payment via Venmo. I can do Paypal if that’s a 
> dealbreaker, but I’m set up as a business so I get charged fees and there 
> is no Personal (friends/family) option for business accounts.
>
>
> Photos are here (send me a message for photos if you don't do IG):
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CskNGRmp6Td/
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CskM93kJ-GL/
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CskM5gMJLtA
>
>  
>
> Ok… what’s available…
>
>  
>
> (1.) Brooks B17 Honey Brown Saddle – mounted on a Brompton and used for 
> one ride before I realized the stock saddle was easier to carry when folded 
> - $90
>
>  
>
> (2.) Paul Moon Units – canti/centerpull hangers - silver – typical 
> marks/scratches from cables - $35 a pair – have 2 pairs
>
>  
>
> (3.) Nitto Tallux Stem – 12cm reach, 25.4mm clamp, 225mm height – used, 
> typical scratches including a spot where I flipped my bike upside down - $50
>
>  
>
> (4.) Campagnolo Triple – logos worn off, not sure the model, 135/74 bcd, 
> 175mm, no chainrings or bolt - $30
>
>  
>
> (5.) Sakae Triple Crankset – silver, 80s/90s make/model – for a budget 
> build – with chainrings and bolts, 130/74 - $20
>
>  
>
> (6.) Shimano Dura Ace 7410 Crankset – set up with a 130bcd 38t narrow-wide 
> chainring – 170mm - $40
>
>  
>
> (7.) Shimano Deore (vintage) FC-6206 – was black, removed the paint on the 
> outer side, still black on the backside of the driveside, 110/74bcd, comes 
> with a very worn 45t chainring and bolts for 110mm - $30
>
>  
>
> (8.) Stock Clem Saddle – these came (come?) on complete Clems, have the 
> handle thing on the back side - $20
>
>  
>
> (9.) Shimano Tiagra Road Brake Levers – some scratches from wall rub, but 
> otherwise in nice condition - $30
>
>  
>
> (10.) Shimano Tiagra MTB Brake Levers – short pull, silver, some shellac 
> residue and typical wear from a few years of regular use - $20
>
>  
>
> (11.) Sunrace 8-speed Thumb Shifter – M90, just the right/rear side, 
> 8-speed indexed, very little use - $15
>
>  
>
> (12.) Salsa Polished Silver Chainring – 42t 130bcd, used, decent condition 
> - $12
>
>  
>
> (13.) Salsa Silver Chainring – 42t 135bcd, used, decent condition - $12
>
>  
>
> (14.) Canvas Bag Set – I made these (have made and sold several bags in 
> the past) small/medium front bag with rolltop and flap closure, rear saddle 
> wedge with rolltop and flap closure – Martexin field tan waxed canvas with 
> Italian leather (straps, trim) and solid brass rivets and buckles, I used 
> these for a summer or so, then made up a new set for myself - $90 for both 
> bags
>
>  
>
> (15.) Gray cordura-like panniers – pair – Norco branded, remind me of 
> Swift (discontinued) shortstacks – I did some modifications at one point to 
> make them easier to open while mounted (original system used tension on the 
> lower hook attached to the main flap closure so opening the bag meant 
> loosening the lower hook attachment), I didn’t get around to upgrading the 
> hook/bungee system so these have NO attachment system in place, again these 
> come with NO rack attachment hardware, so… FREE for shipping – likely fit 
> in a USPS medium flat rate box
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Pat Smith]

Julian great to know thanks. I've got a broken bearing outer stuck in a 
pedal and deciding if the cost of the puller is worth it to get the pedal 
up and running again. If I order the headset press I suppose I may as well! 

Smitty in DC formerly of Bloomington, IL

On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 11:27:07 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Smitty, 
>
> I have ordered and used several of BearingProTools' bearing pullers.  I 
> found them to be very well made and reasonably priced. Although I do not 
> have their headset press, I would not hesitate to order it if I needed one. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Blooomngton, IL 
>
> On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 9:01:53 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> While on the subject of headset presses, I'm in the market for one 
>> myself. I came across these guys - really affordable tools, on par with the 
>> no-name brands from Amazon and eBay but it seems like they make their own 
>> tools and will do custom jobs for little or no money. Shipping was only $15 
>> to my house in east coast USA too. Anyone got any reviews of these tools? 
>> https://www.bearingprotools.com/products/headset-cup-press
>>
>> Smitty in DC
>>
>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 4:08:51 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Kai, 
>>>
>>> Yep, those of us drinking in the rarified high-altitude air on 68 cm 
>>> frames do have that issue with headset presses -- I bought the lovely Stein 
>>> for Riv press that they offered a few years back (a different part of the 
>>> tool pool from H-Z!)  knowing i had to but a new piece of e threaded rod to 
>>> fit my multiple taaa  head tubes. I think that Riv actually offered a 
>>> long threaded rod optio for those at some point before they disappeared.   
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, Il 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:19:08 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Hobson Zingo headset press is an inch too short for my Rivendell 
 bicycle frames! And is no longer available from Riv, maybe for this reason?
 Certainly an outlier’s problem, but one Julian might share. Still worth 
 it even having to swap the threaded rod for a 14”er, as the press plates 
 are pretty cool…
 -Kai


 On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:38:05 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

 I disagree with Garth, 

 I also bought one (to use as a S&S coupler wrench as well as a BB 
 lockring wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll 
 not mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), 
 but it is decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at 
 least 
 $15 if not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional 
 vintage bike repair shop and use it several times a day you might want 
 something more robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do 
 the trick, and I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 

 Julian Westerhout
 Bloomington, IL 

 On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

 This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get 
 him a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 

 When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
 understand when you see the rock hammer". 

 With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see 
 it ;-) .  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson Zingo adjustable lockring wrench for **$7.00**??

[Pat Smith]

While on the subject of headset presses, I'm in the market for one myself. 
I came across these guys - really affordable tools, on par with the no-name 
brands from Amazon and eBay but it seems like they make their own tools and 
will do custom jobs for little or no money. Shipping was only $15 to my 
house in east coast USA too. Anyone got any reviews of these 
tools? https://www.bearingprotools.com/products/headset-cup-press

Smitty in DC

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 4:08:51 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kai, 
>
> Yep, those of us drinking in the rarified high-altitude air on 68 cm 
> frames do have that issue with headset presses -- I bought the lovely Stein 
> for Riv press that they offered a few years back (a different part of the 
> tool pool from H-Z!)  knowing i had to but a new piece of e threaded rod to 
> fit my multiple taaa  head tubes. I think that Riv actually offered a 
> long threaded rod optio for those at some point before they disappeared.   
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, Il 
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:19:08 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> My Hobson Zingo headset press is an inch too short for my Rivendell 
>> bicycle frames! And is no longer available from Riv, maybe for this reason?
>> Certainly an outlier’s problem, but one Julian might share. Still worth 
>> it even having to swap the threaded rod for a 14”er, as the press plates 
>> are pretty cool…
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 6:38:05 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with Garth, 
>>
>> I also bought one (to use as a S&S coupler wrench as well as a BB 
>> lockring wrench) -- like the entire H-Z tool line it is not fancy  (you'll 
>> not mistake it for something from https://www.abbeybiketools.com/ ), but 
>> it is decently made, and works well. I's say to me is is worth at least $15 
>> if not a couple of dollars more. If you're running a professional vintage 
>> bike repair shop and use it several times a day you might want something 
>> more robust, but for the other 99.97657% of us, this will do the trick, 
>> and I'm very glad Rivendell has made it available. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 6, 2023 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>> This reminds of Shawshank Redemption movie where Andy asks Red to get him 
>> a rock hammer that sells for (at the time) . $7. 
>>
>> When Red inquires as to how Andy is going to use it, he replies "you'll 
>> understand when you see the rock hammer". 
>>
>> With the HZ lockring tool, you'll understand why it's $7 when you see it 
>> ;-) .  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Tubus Tara stainless steel

[Pat Smith]

Thanks Brian, for now just looking for stainless to be matchy-matchy with 
my rear Tubus Cosmo 

On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 10:14:02 AM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> Hi Smitty,
>
> Should you have trouble finding the stainless that you seek and decide a 
> silver coated cromo steel would be sufficient I have one currently not in 
> use and could make it available.  Just let me know if you decide to go that 
> route and we could discuss further.
>
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022, Patrick B. Smith  
> wrote:
>
>> Cross posted to a few forums and listservs but I'm looking for a Tubus 
>> Tara. Never tried low rider panniers and want to give it a go.
>>
>> Smitty in DC
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[RBW] Re: Gus - bikepacking mode

[Pat Smith]

Arb, that's a great looking setup and way more akin to what my overnight 
setups look like. Even with a basic camp setup I never figure out how 
everyone else crams everything in just two bags. You should see my winter 
setup :-X

Smitty in DC

On Monday, December 26, 2022 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-5 Arb Sklansky wrote:

> [image: 180E21B0-7CAF-432E-9C05-CD7CA263A11D.jpeg]
> This is my Gus in bikepacking mode 
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:16:13 AM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info, Brian and Scott! I'll check out those spots.
>>
>> I'm really only familiar with the panhandle, and have been lucky to spend 
>> several weeks in winter at a house on Indian Pass. FWIW - if your travels 
>> ever take you to the area, Leon Sinks 
>> , near Tallahassee, is definitely 
>> worth a visit. I don't know about the camping situation there, and riding 
>> there wouldn't be a joy, unless there's a back way I don't know about. But 
>> a couple hours of hiking around and seeing the strange sink holes is a very 
>> cool.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:29:42 AM UTC-6 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> Brian, here are a few places one of my friends likes to go:
>>>
>>> https://floridahikes.com/florida-trail-croom-hiking-trail
>>> https://alafiatrails.com/
>>> https://www.floridastateparks.org/learn/biking-cross-florida-greenway
>>>
>>> Some of that seems a bit more intense mnt. bike stuff, but some of those 
>>> areas are just fun to spend a day on the green and blue trails.
>>>
>>> From what I gather the "Croom" area is supposed to be amazing.
>>> -Scott
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:18:34 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ryan, thank you! Regarding the Pec Deck, I didn't actually buy the "bag 
 'o parts" Ronnie was selling on his site for $75... I had enough spare 
 rack 
 struts and Nitto daruma bolts to make the exact same thing. The only thing 
 I changed was upgrading to a solid 3/8" aluminum rod (from McMaster) for 
 the cross piece (I was previously using just a long Nitto strut). As I'm 
 sure you've experienced, the rackless support method is pretty rock solid, 
 and I find it's no less solid with the Edelux attached. Maybe there's a 
 slight bit more bounce to the light when riding at night, but it's 
 honestly 
 hardly noticeable. I'm using the standard Nitto light mount for rack 
 struts.

 -Brian

 On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:05:19 AM UTC-5 Brian Turner wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words, Paul and Scott! The past two winters, my 
> wife and I spent our Jan - Feb on a barrier island called Anna Maria 
> Island. It's close to Bradenton / Sarasota, and basically within the 
> Tampa 
> Bay / St. Pete area, but you have to drive all the way around the bay to 
> get to it. Her parents own property there, so we can take our dogs and 
> our 
> bikes and work remotely from there. The first year was full-on pandemic, 
> so 
> we kinda laid low. Last year, we made more of an effort to get out on our 
> bikes and find places to ride. Mostly just day trips to gravel routes out 
> on the prairie. A couple of places I found that were nice and within an 
> hour's drive or so were Myakka River State Park, and Duette Preserve. I 
> didn't really find any good overnight options, and would prefer to do 
> those 
> with others even if I did. However, this year I contacted a group out of 
> Orlando that does monthly s24o rides and coffeeoutside events. My plan is 
> to do a couple of rides with them, even though it's a bit further of a 
> drive from where we are living than I would like. I'm certainly open to 
> other recommendations if anyone familiar with the area has any!
> -Brian
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:32:00 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Awesome setup and perfect kit, Brian. Thanks for sharing. Where are 
>> you planning to camp in Florida? I'm always interested in spots to check 
>> out down there.
>>
>> I'm  really eager to get my Gus out on an overnight sometime soon, 
>> and there's a chance I'll make it to the state park on Saint Joe 
>> Penninsula  in early January, 
>> but I've barely had a chance to figure out how I'd carry my gear, and 
>> I'd 
>> have to get it all sorted by this Saturday. I had a full frame bag on my 
>> Jones, and I pack a little heavier than you, so I expect panniers might 
>> be 
>> in order, so maybe just a nice coffee outside outing around there 
>> somewhere 
>> will scratch the itch until it warms up here in the Ozarks.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:05:39 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Eric! Yes, I was happy to see Brendon's clever use of that

[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Pat Smith]

Sure I'll pile on the Road Runner praise train. Got started with them 
buying through VO as others have mentioned. I now have the VOxRR saddle 
bag, a small Jammer, and a couple stem bags. Mostly I love they make 
everything in burgundy cordura so I can be all matchy matchy.

The only bag I haven't loved is my Jammer and that's only because I was 
trying to use it on a commuter bike. I was taking it off at every stop and 
it's a real hassle. As a bike packing bag where it just stays on the bike, 
however, it's AWESOME! Really want to get a pair of jumbo jammers to use as 
panniers on my bike camping bike but I think that's too much money to shell 
out.

While on the subject I also like my bags from Ortlieb, Restrap, Revelate, 
and Outer Shell :-)
Pat in DC who has waaay too many bike bags and not enough time to ride.

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-5 erik.s...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been buying from Road Runner since 2015. I have a medium rolltop 
> backpack, a couple tool rolls, a Jumbo Jammer for bikepacking, a Lil' Guy 
> fanny pack, and maybe one more. Whenever I use my rolltop backpack (~3-4 
> days a week) I think "damn, this thing is going to last my entire life." I 
> love the Jumbo Jammer. I use my Lil Guy almost daily for 6 years now. The 
> company's run by great people and I wholeheartedly recommend their bags.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:32:44 PM UTC-5 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Own a wide selection of Road Runner bags and they have been my go to for 
>> the last 5 years for sure.  Burrito bags, tool rolls, backpacks.  All great 
>> stuff!
>>
>> Don't miss the Comrad lightweight packable backpack.  I bike everywhere 
>> and travel everywhere with that packable bag.  Folds up and can fit into a 
>> bottle cage when not needed.
>>
>> Happy to hear the feedback on their camera strap as I was eyeballing it 
>> and currently roll with a Fuji X-T1.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:48:18 PM UTC-6 Esteban wrote:
>>
>>> I'll come out of infrequently lurking to second the quality of LA-based 
>>> Road Runner bags. I actually have their camera strap for my Fuji X-T2. 
>>> Excellent - simple, easily adjusted to fit snug to the body (I wear it in 
>>> the front). Great for smaller film cameras to keep it on Riv theme. Will 
>>> make my "tried and liked" list for 2022 I usually post on IG... maybe even 
>>> Best Material Good of the Year!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Sorry the pics are so 'inside on a rainy day' lame. I need to get 
 outside tomorrow and take better ones. It was cold! And rainy! 

 On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made 
> in Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>
> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and 
> pink on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a 
> Mermaid 
> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Pat Smith]

I may have to try that IRD FD. I've never been happy with the shifting on 
my triple 9 speed Tiagra 4503 and XT mullet build. I started with brifters 
and later moved to drop bar with the nice XTR trigger shifters. Bike is a 
Jamis Aurora Elite with long chainstays, which I assume would make shifting 
better. Tiagra 50/39/30 triple up front and 9 speed 11/34 cassette in the 
rear. A Shimano (M772 maybe?) Deore XT shadow RD and Tiagra FD. No matter 
what I get chain rub even with trimming and I find I have to increase cable 
tension too much to get consistent shifting into larger cogs which 
sometimes misses on down shifts. I've had my hanger checked for alignment 
and it's just something I've learned to live with.

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 7:10:36 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I thought about modifying the 
> fender to get that extra space, but would rather spend money to fix the 
> problem, hahaha! Joking aside I’d definitely prefer to just run parts that 
> work well for the job at hand. If that means swapping stuff out, then so be 
> it.
>
> I’ll definitely look into the derailleurs mentioned above. With that said, 
> if anyone has a derailleur laying around let me know. I wouldn’t have a 
> strong preference to one over the next, however if one pops up that’s clamp 
> on vs. a braze on, I’d prefer to go that route, but not a deal breaker if I 
> need to get an adapter.
>
> @ Kai, based on those photos you’d be absolutely right, but there’s about 
> 5-6mm of space between the chainring and the chainstay. It’s just the angle 
> of the photo that makes it look like it hates the chainstay!
>
> @ Peter, if nothing pops up here I’ll give you a ring!
>
> Also, sorry for the long winded post above. I wanted to provide info in 
> hopes that maybe this can help someone with a similar issue down the line.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:54:38 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>
>> I agree with Kai.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, 
>>> but looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
>>> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
>>> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Link to photos 

 On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Rack Attachment

[Pat Smith]

I suspect it's just a hook to attach a strap/bungee to. You can certainly 
lop it off!

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:43:52 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:

> I have a couple older Nitto rear racks with this stud attachment on the 
> lower end. The newer ones don't seem to have it. 
> It causes a problem with interference on the fender stay. You have to 
> spread the rack out and put some shims in to make it work. 
> I'm thinking about sawing/filing it off and touching it up with some 
> paint. Ha[image: Nitto 2.JPG][image: Nitto Rack.JPG]s anyone done this 
> mod?
> Are these for an older type of pannier attachment? My Ortleib's don't need 
> it.
> Richard
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSI On The Fly, maybe a favorite pump lead...

[Pat Smith]

You can get 3rd party adapters off Amazon or eBay to hold your Topeak Morph 
next to a bottle cage. I used this one and it works fine: 
https://a.co/d/ckOqV3U
On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:17:31 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> Hahaha, yes, I do also now recall pinching myself on occasion too!  Thanks 
> for the heads up on the rebuild kit, Garth.I expect I'll eventually 
> give the Road Morph another service to see exactly what's happening in 
> there but have also wondered whether I'd just prefer one without the gauge, 
> for simplicity and also from tending to just go by feel as well.  When I 
> bought mine the inline gauge was standard fare.  At least at the shop I 
> found it within the past 10 years or so where they only had the one model 
> but I liked it enough to grab a spare.  I guess I just assumed a stuck or 
> clogged valve after experiencing the same kind of issue with my floor 
> pump... the pressure just started backflowing into the handles on both.  
> The floor pump was a more obvious fix with a quick cleaning and reinstall 
> of the valve and spring while the Road morph has more nooks and crannies.
>
> I've also saved my current floor pump with a simple cleaning and using 
> some silicone plumbing lubricant on the o-ring (after the o-ring stretched 
> and wedged itself between plunger and cylinder a while back.)  I was 
> beginning to look into a newer floor pump until seeing Riv will soon offer 
> one with pretty much the exact features I'd want based on my current needs 
> so now I'm just holding out until theirs is available. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>> Brian, Topeak indeed has a "rebuild kit" 
>> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/product/438-PARTS-KIT , but there's no 
>> mention of a check valve for any frame pump, only their floor models. I 
>> read somewhere that replacing the o-rings and some synthetic grease is all 
>> that's needed for the body. The head may need some cleaning too, apparently 
>> there are some small balls/bearings in there that allow the head to slide, 
>> at least that's from fellow users. Clean and light lube if necessary.
>>
>> For Road Morphs I bought these brackets 
>>
>>
>> https://www.todson.com/collections/topeak/products/wb-bracket-for-rd-morph-peak-dx-mt-rock-harp-mini-tpd.
>>  
>>
>>
>> There is likely a bracket for the Mtn Morph too but I've been using some 
>> Performance Bike shop side bottle brackets i bought years ago that were the 
>> same diameter. 
>>
>>
>> Rebuild kits , though you can get just o-rings anywhere local, and 
>> they're the most important/relevant. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.todson.com/products/road-mini-morph-rebuild-w-silver-cap-trk-tmm01
>>
>> https://www.todson.com/products/road-morph-g-rebuild-w-black-cap-trk-rp01
>>
>> Neither of my Morphs have a gauge but it's easy to tell with experience 
>> about what pressure is good enough. If not, stop and add some more !  My 22 
>> year old Road Morph looks like heck as some of the plastic of the 
>> retractable handle bits have broken off, but it still pumps. I have to hold 
>> the head in position so it doesn't go sideways and lose air too .. the 
>> hose is about as flexible as a chopstick, but the darn thing still pumps. 
>> Oh yeah, with large hands it's easy to pinch yourself on the downstroke 
>> too. Don'tcha just wanna go buy one ? ( ( (  laughing and crying at the 
>> same time ) ) ) .
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 4:34:11 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>>> I'm another Topeak Road Morph user and would also suggest it for ease of 
>>> trail or roadside use and the inline gauge.  I have two and they've rotated 
>>> between bikes/bags.  I've used their stock mount on a frame with no bottle 
>>> bosses just using zipties but yes, on a frame with bottle cages, you'd 
>>> absolutely want another carrying solution otherwise it's bottle cage vs. 
>>> pump mount.  I also use some Specialized mini that fits in even the 
>>> smallest saddle bag and it's been great when needed but as already 
>>> mentioned, the Topeak acting like a floor pump against the ground is simply 
>>> much nicer in use.  I haven't tried their MTB Morph but have considered 
>>> adding one now that one of my two Road morphs has been showing signs of 
>>> wear and an iffy check valve and not sure replacement parts are readily 
>>> available for rebuilds.  I'd already tried to take it apart and clean it 
>>> and may have messed up the gauge calibration and it's worked well enough 
>>> since but not sure how much it has left in it.  It's the one that has most 
>>> often been doused in mud and dust so likely just a reflection of it's hard 
>>> life.  I honestly think most of my personal mid-ride PSI changes have been 
>>> to increase pressure after getting that squishy, wallowing feeling or 
>>> anticipation of an eventual pinch flat, but I also tend to go longer 
>>> periods between inflations and more or less adopted the habit of slightl

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Pat Smith]

Incredible report! As a DCist I long to get out to Shenandoah more and also 
wish I had the legs and cardio and endurance to do something like this. 

Pat in DC

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:05:07 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS posts.
> Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
> contributions to this community.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jandd grocery panniers

[Pat Smith]

These are way cool and I love grocery style panniers but sadly I'm all 
maxed out on bags at the moment!
Pat

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:52:18 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Price reduced: $80 OBO. 
>
> Just think of all the sardines and chocolate bars you could move with 
> these. 
>
> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> A pair of Jandd panniers, embroidered with bananas. Bananniers? 
>>
>> Very lightly used, less than a dozen times. They're showing some dirt as 
>> the fabric is quite light. These are $90/apiece new from Jandd 
>> . 
>>
>> $100 plus actual shipping from 22401 to you. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1707.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_1709.JPG]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New helmet, bartube, tools, $50 each

[Pat Smith]

I definitely suggest using a shipping service like Pirate Ship to buy 
shipping labels. Such better rates than direct through UPS/USPS/FedEx.
Pat

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 1:12:56 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> PayPal Friends or Venmo. Prepare to be shocked by shipping, I've 
> calculated for two potential buyers so far and it's not cheap! 
>
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:53:10 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Stuff I'll never use. 
>>
>> Giro Cinder MIPS, black, Large 59-63cm, unused, still has tags
>>
>> Road Runner Burrito Supreme by Velo Orange, black, unused
>>
>> Headset press from Performance Bike, with adapter for Chris King 
>> headsets, never used it
>>
>> RockShox shock pump, unused but the battery is dead and I don't have the 
>> tiny hex wrench to open it, will send new battery with it
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xAzCYh5dp8rNsvJWA
>>
>> Everything is $50 each plus shipping, bundle stuff! 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe Bernard
>> Text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Interesting front (or rear) rack from Tumbleweed Bikes

[Pat Smith]

I've got a T Rack on my bike packing bike for a anything Cage and Ortlieb 
fork pack. Also strap a dry bag to the top. Can't believe there are not 
more racks with 3 packs on them available in the market. 

Pat DC

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 7:33:02 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very interesting that Riv connection. I was very tempted to get the Mini 
> Pannier also but had a store credit with Riv so ordered the Shiny rear. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 26, 2022, at 1:26 AM, rlti...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I run their T-Rack on the front and Mini Pannier Rack on the rear of my 
> bikepacking bike. Very functional racks since they have the anything cage 
> mounts as well as braze-on’s for mounting lights.
>
>
> Daniel from Tumbleweed worked for Riv at one time and that had some 
> influence on the bikes he offers now.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:33 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> This one is not a svelte Nitto or other shiny rack. But it is a bit 
> unique in that the vertical legs have the three threaded boss mounts to 
> accept anything / manything cages or these OvejaNegra Bootlegger direct 
> mount bags. It can also take some mini panniers. It is very easy to mount 
> and is very well made. I plan to mount a Wald 137 basket and utilize a 
> Tanglefoot Cycles Fifth Season Squall basket bag. Pics to follow... 
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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Pat Smith]

Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for groceries. 
It used to come in red. I've got one in red

https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single

Pat in DC

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>
> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an 
> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by 
> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design, 
> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such 
> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or 
> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers. 
> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the 
> time.)
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that much 
>> processing power. But check 'em out! 
>>
>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Pat Smith]

I just bought two of these off Amazon "open box" for only $28. The company 
is sending me free concrete mounting hardware too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Q5HZ21W

Pat in DC 

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 5:57:10 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> Here's the setup in our garage. The rack for the single bikes is welded up 
> from 40mm square steel tube and bolted to the wall. In our previous house 
> all the bikes hung from the ceiling, but my wife complained because she 
> couldn't get her bikes up onto the hooks when they were that high, so I 
> made the rack here so the single bikes just clear the floor when hung up. 
> The tandems have to hang from the ceiling because of their length.
>
> The hooks I got from the local hardware store. I improved the padding on 
> them by cutting short lengths of garden hose, and softening the hose in hot 
> water so that I could easily get it over the bend in the end of the hooks.
> [image: bikerack2.jpg]
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Re: DMV Area Rivendell Riders

[Pat Smith]

I'll be at Friday night's DC Bike Party leaving Dupont Circle at 7:30. 
Highly recommend joining if you have never participated before. 100s of 
bikers slow rolling through the city with a mid point pit stop and after 
party at an outdoor bar. Fun party atmosphere with some nifty bikes.



[image: IMG_20211012_193858.jpg]

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:30:41 PM UTC-4 Je Mar wrote:

> Here's my Chev, typically commuting from Arlington into Metro Center 
> during the week, along the W&OD and all around on Sundays.  I've seen a 
> friend on a nice little Betty Foy in the past month or so, but I don't seem 
> to run into too many of you folks (but I'm always looking)...
>
> Jeff in Arlington, VA[image: chev Oct 21.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 12:35:40 PM UTC-4 
> robert.har...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have two Rivs and picking up a Hubbah this Sunday! Lots of us in DC 
>> area!
>>
>> - RG in DC
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:21 AM Pat Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in DC just jealous of you all that own Rivs!
>>>
>>> Pat in Capitol Hill with a Black Mountain Cycles Road+
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm an hour south in Fredericksburg, Appaloosa and Hillborne rider here 
>>>> ☮️😎
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 7:25:44 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I live near Dupont Circle and have/ride a very, very small butternut 
>>>>> Saluki; boyfriend has a green-ish first-generation Hillborne here in DC 
>>>>> (and a lovely (and adored) orange Rambouillet in California, bought years 
>>>>> ago through a tip on this list).  I looked for photos, and the ones we 
>>>>> have 
>>>>> are terrible, so those will have to wait.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, Michael, I ride on Kennedy at least once every couple of weeks! 
>>>>> (Mid-way through 2020, desperate for regular exercise, friends and I 
>>>>> started meeting up at 6:00 am 2-3 mornings a week and doing 
>>>>> quick-and-dirty 
>>>>> (@ 20 mile) rides and around through the city -- we often find ourselves 
>>>>> flying east on Kennedy, having come from Rock Creek, or going west 
>>>>> slightly 
>>>>> slower, heading to the park. Will have to look for your shop!) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Liz  Sherwood
>>>>> Washington, DC 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 6:52:51 AM UTC-4 mrb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gorgeous Hunq! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A great story here! The rider of the Red Custom Riv got back to me 
>>>>>> off-list! He's waiting for his message to be approved, but he saw my 
>>>>>> "Riv 
>>>>>> Bat Signal" and responded! We're gaining steam!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I own a record shop on NW Kennedy St near Rock Creek -- we could meet 
>>>>>> up over there some time!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:38:19 PM UTC-4 WETH wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in the Kensington area and commute by bike to NW DC.  I have a 
>>>>>>> Hunqapillar, photo attached.  A meetup would be fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:16:53 AM UTC-4 mrb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found out that Paul R and I both live in Takoma Park, and I know 
>>>>>>>> he has a stable of 3 amazing Rivs. As a recent Romulus acquirer, I've 
>>>>>>>> gotten a few shout outs on the streets in the past couple months. 
>>>>>>>> Recently, 
>>>>>>>> I've also spotted two super nice rigs out on the trails/streets:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - A super sweet racked and fendered up Cheviot in Grayish/Blue (I 
>>>>>>>> think) on the MBT trail out near ~M or so
>>>>>>>> - A burgundy custom rivendell with a super sick setup riding up 5th 
>>>>>>>> st NW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you live and ride in the DC/Maryland/Virginia metro area, shout 
>>>>>>>> it out here and show some pics!
>>>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: DMV Area Rivendell Riders

[Pat Smith]

I'm in DC just jealous of you all that own Rivs!

Pat in Capitol Hill with a Black Mountain Cycles Road+

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 10:32:42 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm an hour south in Fredericksburg, Appaloosa and Hillborne rider here 
> ☮️😎
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 7:25:44 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood 
> wrote:
>
>> I live near Dupont Circle and have/ride a very, very small butternut 
>> Saluki; boyfriend has a green-ish first-generation Hillborne here in DC 
>> (and a lovely (and adored) orange Rambouillet in California, bought years 
>> ago through a tip on this list).  I looked for photos, and the ones we have 
>> are terrible, so those will have to wait.
>>
>> But, Michael, I ride on Kennedy at least once every couple of weeks! 
>> (Mid-way through 2020, desperate for regular exercise, friends and I 
>> started meeting up at 6:00 am 2-3 mornings a week and doing quick-and-dirty 
>> (@ 20 mile) rides and around through the city -- we often find ourselves 
>> flying east on Kennedy, having come from Rock Creek, or going west slightly 
>> slower, heading to the park. Will have to look for your shop!) 
>>
>> Liz  Sherwood
>> Washington, DC 
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 6:52:51 AM UTC-4 mrb wrote:
>>
>>> Gorgeous Hunq! 
>>>
>>> A great story here! The rider of the Red Custom Riv got back to me 
>>> off-list! He's waiting for his message to be approved, but he saw my "Riv 
>>> Bat Signal" and responded! We're gaining steam!
>>>
>>> I own a record shop on NW Kennedy St near Rock Creek -- we could meet up 
>>> over there some time!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:38:19 PM UTC-4 WETH wrote:
>>>
 I'm in the Kensington area and commute by bike to NW DC.  I have a 
 Hunqapillar, photo attached.  A meetup would be fun!


 On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 9:16:53 AM UTC-4 mrb wrote:

> I found out that Paul R and I both live in Takoma Park, and I know he 
> has a stable of 3 amazing Rivs. As a recent Romulus acquirer, I've gotten 
> a 
> few shout outs on the streets in the past couple months. Recently, I've 
> also spotted two super nice rigs out on the trails/streets:
>
> - A super sweet racked and fendered up Cheviot in Grayish/Blue (I 
> think) on the MBT trail out near ~M or so
> - A burgundy custom rivendell with a super sick setup riding up 5th st 
> NW
>
> If you live and ride in the DC/Maryland/Virginia metro area, shout it 
> out here and show some pics!
>


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[RBW] Re: Soma Fab 15% Off Everything Ends Today

[Pat Smith]

I have one of the Cardiff saddles but with minor use and no useful Brooks 
comparison. Mine wasn't quite assembled right and I had to bend one of the 
parts into place. The light brown is a nice honey color. I still haven't 
found the saddle "for me" so it's a out as good as any other I've tried. 

Pat in DC

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I was looking at the saddles that Soma offers and saw the Cardiff Harlech 
> leather saddle. Does anyone here have experience with these especially in 
> comparison with a Brooks saddle?
> Doug
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 9:00:59 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Good to know! Thanks Paul.
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 8:23:55 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>>> Meant to forward this info when it first hit, but forgot. No 
>>> affilliation.
>>>
>>> Soma's got 15% off everything in-store, ends today.
>>>
>>> http://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/4rbx-2gdgh4--wkx7s-1r2oa6i8
>>>
>>> "Sale Ends 10/11/21 Must use Promo Code "siskiyou15" for discount."  
>>>
>>> I was waiting/hoping for one of these before buying a new Champs d'etc 
>>> fork, but that horse left the barn back in June/July.
>>>
>>> Just a reminder to shop responsibly... 
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PayPal now taxing goods & services transactions >$600

[Pat Smith]

I was taken aback by this at first as well, but as Garth pointed out it 
seems to only be for very high annual sales. Otherwise I'd be requesting 
F&F like crazy. 

Pat in DC
On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-4 rickur...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> I’m pretty sure you can just provide your Social Security number, which 
> PayPal already has. So that shouldn’t be a problem. Other than that, just 
> sucking it up and paying taxes that you owe isn’t the end of the world.
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 2:18:20 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Howdy all,
>>
>> I just sold a frame to a fellow list member, and the transaction was made 
>> through PayPal goods & services option. I then received an email from PP 
>> with the heading "New IRS requirement – take action now". The body of the 
>> email is as follows:
>>
>> [image: D3F78C43-96EF-4845-9A1A-A418640B1F50_1_201_a.jpeg]
>>
>> So not only do they want me to provide a tax ID number, but it looks like 
>> they'll now be taxing any transaction over $600! Also, it's not clear 
>> whether this is for any single transaction over $600, or worse, if it's a 
>> cumulative annual total. 
>>
>> In the past when I've sold something to folks on this list and several 
>> other lists, I usually give the buyer the choice of using friends & family 
>> (FF) or goods & services (GS), letting them know how much I'd like to net 
>> for each item (and letting them know how much extra they would have to add 
>> if they choose GS). Roughly about 2/3 of my selling transactions have been 
>> with FF, usually because this small forum of like-minded folks tends to 
>> foster trust, and most of the items I've sold are less than $200. But the 
>> other 1/3 choose GS, mainly under the guise of transaction security 
>> (especially for a higher priced item).
>>
>> But now that we'll apparently be taxed on anything over $600, what other 
>> option(s) are there out there to provide buyer protection without the 
>> seller having to pay taxes or registering an ID number? 
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Romulus death shake

[Pat Smith]

Unrelated, but it's the same on my Black Mountain Road+ with any sort of a 
front load. The thing has Mark's rack mounts, low rider mounts, and 3 pack 
mounts on the fork, so you would think it could handle a front load better 
:(

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:42:14 AM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:

> Do you have a front rack installed?
>
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-4 rickur...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone else get the frame wobble at high speeds on smooth surfaces 
>> with their Romulus? I only get it if I try to go no hands. And even the 
>> smallest amount of pressure on one of the grips will stop it. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Tumbleweed Rack on 26" fork -- Hunqapilllar?

[Pat Smith]

If anyone happens to have a Tumbleweed rack for sale, I'm interested. Have 
no need for my big beefy Tubus Logo anymore.
Pat in DC

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 11:51:44 AM UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> I have a t-rack on the front of my 650b Atlantis, attached to the top of 
> the fork crown. no issues setting it up and a really great rack. You'll 
> need to bend the bottom a little bit or use some spacers, but its not a big 
> deal. I have basket on mine and then use the mounts for touring. I think it 
> really splits the difference between minimal and super functional in the 
> smartest way possible.  
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 7:37:12 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> FYI:  I was fortunate to purchase and receive a Tumbleweed Mini Pannier 
>> Rack recently.  Included *with *the rack was a very nice set of mounting 
>> hardware which included very nice black alloy spacers (Six total -   4 x 
>> 2.5mm thick and 2 x 5mm thick).  I mounted my rack on the rear of my bike, 
>> but I can see where one may choose to use the spacers to mount it on the 
>> front, reducing the *squeeze* on the rack legs / dropout interface.
>>
>> Daniel really thought things out and I am very impressed with the quality 
>> / features of the rack along with the included hardware.  One last detail: 
>> from the pictures on his website, one could see that the Mini Pannier Rack 
>> does have a lighting tang.  I couldn't tell if the tang has a single hole 
>> or two holes for a two-bolt Busch & Muller rear LED tail light (such as the 
>> Toplight Line).  I can confirm yes, it indeed does and it is properly 
>> spaced for a perfect fit [when will NItto include this feature on their 
>> racks?].
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 6:08:51 AM UTC-7 Ginz wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I hadn't considered the spacing.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to find something minimal for the front of the bike that:
>>> Doesn't interfere with the first crown (I'm using the Tektro cable 
>>> hander), and
>>> Doesn't use draw bolts on the vertical stays (just my preference).
>>>
>>> If the Tumbleweeds come back in stock, I may give it a go.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 6:01:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Just keep in mind you'd have to bend the rack to fit the 100mm+ 
 dropouts rather than the 135mm+ drop outs in the rear.

 Collin in, its smoky again, Sacramento

 On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-7 joshm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I emailed Daniel that same question and this was his response: 
>
> "You should have no problem with clearance above your tire, but 
> there’s no real downside to having the rack that’s a little tall other 
> than 
> aesthetics. The difference between the two rack sizes is only about an 
> inch, we mainly do the two sizes to accommodate bikes with big wheels and 
> low rack mounts where there might be clearance issues with the tire. "
>
> Regarding the says, I trimmed mine and it looks great. 
>
> Josh in NYC
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 12:52 PM Ginz  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Has anyone tried to fit the Tumbleweed T-Rack or Pannier Rack (355mm 
>> deck height?) on a Hunqapillar or similar 26" fork using the bosses on 
>> top 
>> of the fork crown?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that would work.  Some bending of the rack stays 
>> might be required by I can't tell if the stays' mounting block would be 
>> at 
>> the right height.
>>
>> I have a Nitto 32F on there but might try something new.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Eric
>>
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[RBW] Re: SOMA Lucas 3 Front Rack with 650Bs?

[Pat Smith]

Using one on my Jamis Aurora Elite (disc). Flat bar with 650b x 42mm tires. 
Works great. 

Pat

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:

> I am using one on my Soma Buena vista with basket attached, fenders and 
> Tektro 559s over 48mm parimotos. 
> Works well for me.
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>> Anyone have this rack? I’ve been looking for an inexpensive front rack 
>> solution for potential camping trips (additionally, will probably put out 
>> an APB for bike camping compadres later…). 
>>
>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/lucas-2-mini-front-rack
>>
>> My biggest concern obviously is clearance with side pull brakes, front 
>> fenders, and 650B wheels. Having a tough time finding any intel online so I 
>> figured I’d ask the experts. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking VO Mojave bottle cage

[Pat Smith]

According to the VO newsletter I just got yesterday they should be back in 
stock now
Pat inDC



On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 1:31:16 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> Does anyone have a Mojave bottle cage for sale? Or similar bottle cage 
> capable of holding a 32 ounce bottle? Needs to be able to be affixed to 
> standard water bottle mounts. 
>
> Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Rack mountable UBS lights

[Pat Smith]

Kushan I'm in the same boat as you. I think it's weird there's no good way 
to put USB lights on rack or fork braze ons. Sure there are the stubs like 
the Paul, Problem Solvers, Planet Bike, or Origin8, but then you're using 
that adapter and the headlights handlebar adapter. In my case I have 
Cygolite lights, which have a fairly bulky handlebar adapter. The whole 
system works great, it just seems unnecessarily bulky and with more parts 
than needed. To further frustrate, many USB headlights have GoPro style 
adapters to easily mount them to GoPro style mounts. There are a million 
GoPro style mounts for handlebars, but nothing for M5 or M6 threaded holes! 

By the way, if you do decide to go the route of the eyelet stub I'm sitting 
on a stock of the Origin8 model in black and I'd be happy to send you one 
for the cost of postage. 

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 9:27:59 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Hi Kushan,
> Consider the B+M Eyro (scroll down a product or two on this link to Peter 
> White Cycles https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b&m.php).
>
> Eyro comes with a mount for the fork. I removed it and bolted Eyro 
> directly to my front fork's 3-pack mount. (I might have used a spacer, I 
> don't remember offhand.)
>
> For the Soma rack, you likely would need a "brake arm" or similar piece to 
> attach the Eyro in its proper position (after removing the fork mount). 
>
> Eyro has been great for my evening commute in the winter. It holds enough 
> charge, is simple enough to clip/unclip for charging, and, importantly, has 
> a nice lens with cutoff. I sometimes would use a MUP, and the lens cutoff 
> is great for keeping the light out of users' eyes.
>
> Also, the mount makes it look integrated, and not clip on. This might be a 
> deterrent for thieves in contrast to handle-bar mount styles. 
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 1:09:47 AM UTC-4 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Hi Kushan,
>>
>> You can get a "knob" to create a mounting point for a handlebar USB 
>> headlight. Here's the Problem Solver 
>> 
>>  
>> one for a side . Here's the Planet Bike 
>> 
>>  
>> for the fork which would work on a front eyelet.  Cateye has a dedicated 
>> fork mount  for 
>> their headlights only which can work on the front eyelet as well.
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all - 
>>>
>>> Does any have recommendations for a decent rack mounted USB light? My 
>>> rack 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> has braze-ons for mounting lights but finding lights for them is proving to 
>>> be harder than I thought. Most USB lights 
>>>  
>>> on the market seem to have clip-on, handlebar type of the mount. 
>>>
>>> I don't ride much in dark but like to have non-fancy but good (200 
>>> lumens or more) USB lights on me just in case. I currently use 
>>> handlebar-mounted ones but starting to run out of HB real estate and would 
>>> like to move the lights to the front rack.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Kushan
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

[Pat Smith]

That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our trip and 
we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp and bike home 
one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 

Pat

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Pat in DC, You are very likely younger than I am, (closing in on 75 
> years,) but my travel companion for this trip is also younger by a decade 
> and a much stronger rider than I. We both were glad we settled on 50 miles 
> a day and tried our best to schedule the camps accordingly. After more than 
> a decade of doing rail trail multi-day trips, three things I have found 
> feels proper for me: 
> 1. A 5-minute break every 10 miles or so. Mainly to relive the butt and 
> resupply the tank with a small snack. (I rarely stop for a "real" lunch 
> unless it is some kind of coffee shop stop.)
> 2. 50 miles a day, riding loaded seems to prevent being too weary and 
> making the trip a chore. A little time in camp, even if just a relaxed meal 
> preparation is nice too. 
> 3. No matter how fast I can ride if I have too, like making up lost time, 
> beating an incoming storm, etc., It's hard and unpleasant for me to sustain 
> 12 - 14 mph all day. I seem to always fall back to 10 mph, unless riding 
> surfaces, etc. are perfectly smooth and level. 
> However, your schedule is your schedule and if it is inflexible, you may 
> not have a choice. Depending on your exact start and finish locations, the 
> GAPCO is pretty close to 350 miles (50 miles x 7 days). 
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours of 
>> riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not sure 
>> how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but time will 
>> tell.
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 marshmonster wrote:
>>
>>> Pat, you mean 5 days? It's doable but you won't have much time to stop 
>>> and check out some of the small towns, take a dip in the Potomac, ride 
>>> around Antietem, etc. C&O was my first bikepacking trip. My only regret is 
>>> not giving it more time, I kind of plowed through it in 3 days.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
 Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
 trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live 
 in 
 DC.

 Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way 
 so now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for 
 sure. Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?

 Pat in DC

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and 
> iterations of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty 
> minute 
> bike ride from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and 
> points 
> along that way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>
>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from 
> Cumberland 
> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>
> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
> and the relatively level grades. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
>> (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
>> 7-day 
>> trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
>> perspective on the trails along the C&O Towpath in Maryland and the 
>> Great 
>> Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
>> I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, 
>> mostly. It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer 
>> Hilsen I use for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could 
>> probably handle touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is 
>> more reliable for multi-day loads.
>> We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a 
>> variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down 
>> to 
>> freezing one night) with a bit of rain th

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

[Pat Smith]

Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours of 
riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not sure 
how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but time will 
tell.

Pat in DC

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 marshmonster wrote:

> Pat, you mean 5 days? It's doable but you won't have much time to stop and 
> check out some of the small towns, take a dip in the Potomac, ride around 
> Antietem, etc. C&O was my first bikepacking trip. My only regret is not 
> giving it more time, I kind of plowed through it in 3 days.
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
>> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
>> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in 
>> DC.
>>
>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way so 
>> now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for sure. 
>> Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and iterations 
>>> of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty minute bike ride 
>>> from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points along that 
>>> way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>>>
>>>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
>>> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
>>> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
>>> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
>>> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
>>> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>>>
>>> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
>>> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
>>> and the relatively level grades. 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
 (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
 7-day 
 trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
 perspective on the trails along the C&O Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
 Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
 I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. 
 It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use 
 for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
 touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
 multi-day loads.
 We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a 
 variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to 
 freezing one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared 
 for it so the cooler temps were welcomed.
 The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will 
 undoubtedly be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more 
 available campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is 
 usually a big problem for us, even in the summer.)
 My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my 
 own memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I 
 tried not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable 
 landmarks for the GAPCO, which I have done before.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162
 Happy trails to all,
 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.



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[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

[Pat Smith]

Thanks for the tips. Sounds like mid-October will be perfect!
Here's to hoping life doesn't get in the way... Again. 

Pat in DC

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 6:56:48 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Pat, all I can add since I've not self-supported the GAP-CO trip is that 
> some services may be less extensive after October. For the GAP portion, 
> October is a highlight for foliage, decreased bugs and the best chance of 
> the year's months for a dry ride. A bigger concern on the C&O, even days 
> following rain. Mud is a thing on the C&O. The western section can be 
> avoided (on the other side of the canal) on the Western Maryland Rail 
> Trail  which is 26 miles of 
> pavement.  It is a different organization with a smaller scope of mileage 
> to maintain but has a higher expectation of the trail surface. You'll 
> appreciate it if raining as you close in on Cumberland.
>
> The fine limestone bed of the GAP is consistent and does make a slurry in 
> downpours, I've ridden to Ohiopyle with half being an utter downpour, the 
> latter tapered off and was wet. With an adequate flap on my Rambouillet's 
> fender my drivetrain feet and BB were spotless other than incidental spray 
> from the front fender exit. I would recommend fenders for rides on this 
> route if just to keep the flung dust from the front wheel from the constant 
> contamination of your drivetrain. More so when wet. Many services have a 
> hose with which you can do a field expedient drivetrain ungunking. A water 
> bottle with nozzle can suffice if it's bad. Choose and have chain lube you 
> are familiar with using. What goes for weeks at home might not hold through 
> lunch on the trail. 
>
> The use the GAP trail gets is undoubtable now and you should be OK. 
> Merchants aren't in business to miss sales and there are lots of riders 
> after the end of September. The Facebook page is very active. I submitted a 
> large tree down across the trail between Duquesne and McKeesport (20 mile 
> mark for me) on an out and back century. It was cut and removed by the time 
> I passed it again, 60 miles of riding later. 
>
> Services were more effected by the pandemic than usual seasons. I rode 
> more on the GAP last year to get isolated, it's part of the attraction for 
> me but it kept away many of the through or long distance riders. On nice 
> days and weekends you will be able to gauge your proximity to access points 
> and services by the "local" users. They will walk their dogs, run and 
> leisurely pedal cruisers several miles from the parking areas and become 
> your signal that town is near. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:01:09 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> Pat, I would say most of the trail towns' resupply points are open all 
>> year, but not all. The campsites on the C&O are open year-round. Camping on 
>> the GAP is trickier during winter, but I would say likely open until late 
>> November - a guess. A better source of first-hand information can be had 
>> from the various FB groups for both trails. Not uncommon for the GAP to 
>> have snow as a trail surface mid-winter. (Can you say, cross country 
>> skiing?) See my answer to Rich about additional winter closures.
>> By the way, as to extra layers, the C&O can be quite warm and chilly in 
>> the same trip. Though carrying extra clothes and gear can be a hassle, 
>> better safe than sorry. I find wool layers will pretty much cover all 
>> scenarios and needs little in the way of washing mid-trip. Also, wool can 
>> make all the difference in the rain! 
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:11 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
>>> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping 
>>> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in 
>>> DC.
>>>
>>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way 
>>> so now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for 
>>> sure. Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>>>
>>> Pat in DC
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and 
 iterations of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty 
 minute 
 bike ride from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points 
 along that way that are fun detours and sightseeing.

  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
 load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
 options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
 day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
 Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland 
 at 7pm. It

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

[Pat Smith]

Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to Pitt 
direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike camping trips 
and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live in DC.

Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way so 
now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for sure. 
Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?

Pat in DC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and iterations 
> of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty minute bike ride 
> from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and points along that 
> way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>
>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a load 
> capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my options 
> for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two day rides 
> from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to Cumberland 
> with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from Cumberland at 7pm. It 
> is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>
> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
> and the relatively level grades. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
>> (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 7-day 
>> trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new 
>> perspective on the trails along the C&O Towpath in Maryland and the Great 
>> Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. 
>> I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. It 
>> serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use for 
>> mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle 
>> touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for 
>> multi-day loads.
>> We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a variety 
>> of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to freezing 
>> one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared for it so 
>> the cooler temps were welcomed.
>> The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will undoubtedly 
>> be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more available 
>> campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is usually a 
>> big problem for us, even in the summer.)
>> My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my own 
>> memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I tried 
>> not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable landmarks for 
>> the GAPCO, which I have done before.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162
>> Happy trails to all,
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifters - Upgrade?

[Pat Smith]

Looks like one side sold out already :-/

Was thinking of replacing my Paul thumbies mounts with these for the 
adjustability. 

Oh well

Pat in DC

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 8:42:22 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all!
> I have an Atlantis w/Choco bars and run the Microshift SL-T09 in the 
> Groovy Rivendell reversed style. It's a Riv build and they didn't have 
> Silver shifters available when I ordered and I was a little sad about it. I 
> have no complains about the Microshifts whatsoever, but I'd love some 
> feedback from anyone who has experience with the newer Silver thumbies and 
> the Microshifts. I'm tempted to buy a pair of shifters and mounts now that 
> they're all in stock, but I'm not sure I really *need* to.
>
> Essentially, other than looking cooler (which is, to be sure, a valid 
> reason to change), is there any performance/usability advantage of Silver 
> shifters? 
>
> I appreciate your time!
> Ben 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spiky platform pedal plus SPD? MAP bar surgery and reasons therefore.

[Pat Smith]

Depending on what color you want there's a seller on ebay with the Flip III 
for $54: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/iSSi-Flip-III-Aluminum-Dual-Sided-Platform-Clipless-Pedals/193835612640?epid=6028021845&hash=item2d2180b9e0:g:wYIAAOSwy11f82MK

Lots of other sellers around $80.

Pat
DC

On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 12:29:23 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Mike. Agree that $115 is rather dear for this bike, and Shimano's 
> EH 500 is only $80 or so. Pat, the ISSI Flip 3 also looks viable -- RBR 
> gave it a good review -- but again, $100.
>
> But for the moment, I am retrogressing back to the "SPD versus clips and 
> straps" conundrum. Clips and straps is the best of all worlds, except that 
> I don't own any shoes suitable for clips and straps in off road dirt, so 
> I'm back to the SPDs at this point. I wear slippers indoors, and when going 
> out generally slip on boat shoes/moccasins or cowboy boots. Slip ons are 
> fine for pavement riding or taking the dog for a quick run on dirt, but not 
> for extended rides in our sandy soil. Perhaps the solution will be a cheap 
> pair of casual lace up shoes from Target.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:38 AM Mike K.  wrote:
>
>> My favorite dual-sided pedals were the Funn Mamba pedals I got on eBay 
>> for a song. Unfortunately, trying to find others for my other bikes hasn't 
>> happened yet. They're pricey brand new ($115), but I love the one set I 
>> have. Big platform with lots of room, thin profile, good attachment with 
>> the SPD side. Overall a great pedal, but for me the price isn't right 
>> unless I can find another used pair.
>>
>> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 2:19:31 PM UTC-5 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have some 8000s used twice that I can sell you if interested. Ben
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 10:12:57 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thank you! I wish I'd known about this, even better for me than the 
 more expensive T8000, before I spent 50 smalls on the Chesters.

 I took the Chesters off and replaced them with my MKS Esprit pedals 
 with MKS Extra Deep 'n' Long clips and long straps. These work fine with 
 my 
 vibram-sole slip ons; we'll see how they do with my thick-soled hiking 
 shoes.

 If clips and straps don't work, I'll go for the EH500. In any event, 
 may have a pair of almost-new Chesters for sale shortly.

 On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:05 AM Garth  wrote:

> Oh sure  the Shimano EH500 is a dualists dream pedal, flat 
> w/spikes one one side, spd on the other.  Longer spikes would make it 
> more 
> grippy of course. 
>
> As for foot position, that depends on the riders sensibilities, the 
> tread and rubber density of the shoe sole plus the spike position. I wear 
> Altra trail shoes that have middle density large lugs which act as a 
> stopper from the shoe moving around with VP Vice pedals. The lugs of the 
> shoe just so happen to rest on the platform, between the spikes which end 
> up serving as a stabilizer. I didn't intend for this to happen, it's just 
> how it is with that combo of pedal and shoe. This from someone who never 
> pulls up or out of the pedals though. Somewhere along the line I began to 
> pedal like I was wiping my feet off on a rug applying presure like a 
> cat kneading. Smooth and firm. I find it relaxing actually, which is a 
> large part of why I ride a bike in the first place. I don't do land yoga, 
> but I'd like riding to a rolling yoga aeronautics. This isn't to imply it 
> work work for anyone else, everyone has their own unique way that 
> presents 
> itself. 
>
>
> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 4:23:17 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh. This is the right bar photo.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spiky platform pedal plus SPD? MAP bar surgery and reasons therefore.

[Pat Smith]

ISSI Flip3 is another option. The cheaper Flip1 and 2 don't have the spokes 
though. 


On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 9:38:10 AM UTC-4 Mike K. wrote:

> My favorite dual-sided pedals were the Funn Mamba pedals I got on eBay for 
> a song. Unfortunately, trying to find others for my other bikes hasn't 
> happened yet. They're pricey brand new ($115), but I love the one set I 
> have. Big platform with lots of room, thin profile, good attachment with 
> the SPD side. Overall a great pedal, but for me the price isn't right 
> unless I can find another used pair.
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 2:19:31 PM UTC-5 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have some 8000s used twice that I can sell you if interested. Ben
>>
>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 10:12:57 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you! I wish I'd known about this, even better for me than the more 
>>> expensive T8000, before I spent 50 smalls on the Chesters.
>>>
>>> I took the Chesters off and replaced them with my MKS Esprit pedals with 
>>> MKS Extra Deep 'n' Long clips and long straps. These work fine with my 
>>> vibram-sole slip ons; we'll see how they do with my thick-soled hiking 
>>> shoes.
>>>
>>> If clips and straps don't work, I'll go for the EH500. In any event, may 
>>> have a pair of almost-new Chesters for sale shortly.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:05 AM Garth  wrote:
>>>
 Oh sure  the Shimano EH500 is a dualists dream pedal, flat w/spikes 
 one one side, spd on the other.  Longer spikes would make it more grippy 
 of 
 course. 

 As for foot position, that depends on the riders sensibilities, the 
 tread and rubber density of the shoe sole plus the spike position. I wear 
 Altra trail shoes that have middle density large lugs which act as a 
 stopper from the shoe moving around with VP Vice pedals. The lugs of the 
 shoe just so happen to rest on the platform, between the spikes which end 
 up serving as a stabilizer. I didn't intend for this to happen, it's just 
 how it is with that combo of pedal and shoe. This from someone who never 
 pulls up or out of the pedals though. Somewhere along the line I began to 
 pedal like I was wiping my feet off on a rug applying presure like a 
 cat kneading. Smooth and firm. I find it relaxing actually, which is a 
 large part of why I ride a bike in the first place. I don't do land yoga, 
 but I'd like riding to a rolling yoga aeronautics. This isn't to imply it 
 work work for anyone else, everyone has their own unique way that presents 
 itself. 


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> Sheesh. This is the right bar photo.
>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Snob Today!

[Pat Smith]

I feel so called out. Gold. 


On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:23:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> He still has it. This is actually one of his better ones.
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:09 AM Philip Barrett  
> wrote:
>
>> As usual from Eben, Riv-love & a good take on the next BIG THING.
>>
>>
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/03/09/are-you-still-a-marketing-consultant-if-nobodys-consulting-you/
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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Pat Smith]

Nice writeup, thanks for sharing. Makes me miss the winters when I lived in 
Lake Geneva, WI.

Pat in DC where it's just cold and wet and no fun snow.

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:54:02 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> Great post Tim, thanks for sharing the build info and camp story & pics. 
> Makes me wanna head out for an overnighter this weekend!
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 8:37:40 AM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Thanks Leah! Hope you had a happy birthday and were able to get out for a 
>> ride. The mist was great; a perfect backdrop for some early morning black 
>> metal on my bluetooth speaker to go along with some black coffee.
>> Mark, it really wasn't that cold. The temperature never dropped much 
>> below 40F. The snow was leftovers from a blizzard that came on the same day 
>> as my Susie. No need to give up a bike. Just have to find a different way 
>> to justify a new bike.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 7:25:57 AM UTC-6 mark etze wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad your Birthday is in February, that looks pretty cold.
>>>
>>> I owe on my taxes this year, I hope that doesn't mean I have to give up 
>>> a bike.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:31:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This story was a lot of fun to read. I can’t believe you were out there 
 in the snow in your Crocs with plastic bags around your feet. Also, your 
 friends are a blend of crazy and awesome. I’ve never bike camped (I’ve 
 never been the camping sort) but I almost want to after reading about how 
 magical it was to drink coffee in the morning mist.

 Happy birthday! (Mine was the 26th - cheers!)
 Leah 

 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 4:22:46 PM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> And now for some pictures...
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[RBW] Re: WTB: silver rear hub, 32h, 135mm, 11spd (or 8-10) (Velo Orange, Shimano, White, others)

[Pat Smith]

I was on the hunt for a long time for silver disc hubs and they were nearly 
impossible to find on a budget, let alone for 11 speed. Since you're 
looking at rim brakes you should have more luck. Check out the Bitex hubs 
of you're on a budget they usually have a nice silver ootion: 
https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/140.htm

Also last I saw those Kasai/Panasonic dyno hubs were super cheap on Soma 
Fabs webstore. Not sure if they are in stock with your options but take a 
look if you haven't already. 

Pat in DC
On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 12:16:05 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> Abe,
>
> I don't have any hubs that fit your criteria, but one little informational 
> nugget is that 11 spd shimano mtn cassettes actually work on 10 speed 
> shimano freehubs! So if you have the linked 670 or 610 hubs above, you'd 
> still be able to use 11 speed cassettes (and even the hg700, the most 
> recent 105 version of the 11-34 or 11--36 cassette) AND use 9 speed 
> cassettes, too, all without spacers, adapters, etc.
>
> Sounds like an awesome wheelbuild!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sactown
>
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-8 Pancake wrote:
>
>> I have a couple Velo Orange Voyager rims (700c, 32h) that I want to build 
>> up. Plan to use rim brakes, but a center lock hub would be okay too. Open 
>> to other ideas and suggestions too.
>>
>> *Hubs I'm looking for in particular (32h, silver or polished):*
>> Shimano FH-T670 
>> ,
>>  
>> (this is my preferred hub, but impossible to find so far), FH-T610 (this 
>> seems the most common but can't ben found in silver anywhere), or similar.
>> Velo Orange Rear Cassette Hub 
>>  in 
>> silver.
>> White Industries MI5 
>> 
>>
>> More details in case you have a different hub that might work too:
>>
>> *11 speed hub, but 8-10 speed okay too*: I plan to use a 9 speed 
>> cassette, but I would like to use a 11 speed hub (I understand you can add 
>> a small spacer behind the cassette to make the 11 speed hub work with a 8, 
>> 9, or 10 speed cassette). 
>>
>> *32 hole* to match my rims.
>>
>> *Silver or polished* - I'd like to keep everything as silver as 
>> possible. 
>>
>> Will use rim brakes, but if there's a centerlock hub that ticks all the 
>> other boxes that would work as well.
>>
>> *Plan to use a Kasai dynamo hub up front (also 32h in silver or polished) 
>> which I'm also interested in buying from list members*, or a similar 
>> silver dyanmo hub like Son, SP, or Shimano.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Abe 
>>
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[RBW] WTB: Dia Compe SS6 brake levers (or similar)

[Pat Smith]

As title suggests I'm looking for some brake levers  like the Dia Compe SS6 
that fit the following criteria:
- silver
- 22.2 clamp
- standard pull
- fairly low profile with built in barrel adjuster

They are available for purchase new from Riv, but I'm looking to save a few 
bucks as this is for my 
"beater" https://www.rivbike.com/products/dia-compe-ss-6-mtb-silver-brake-levers

Pat in DC

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[RBW] Re: Good pedals for both SPD clip-in and street shoe riding?

[Pat Smith]

Shimano PD - T8000. They have pins on the flat side, built in reflectors, 
wide platform, and are weighted so they rotated to vertical when you take 
your foot off. Loved mine but the bike I had them on had too low of a 
bottom bracket and I got pedal strikes on aggressive rides. Replaced with 
ISSI Flip3 which I also like but probably not for you 
Pat on DC

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:49:16 PM UTC-5 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:48:10 PM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Just noticed these browsing on Blue Lug last week
>> https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-siver.html
>>
>
> That's not any different from Shimano A530.
>
> In my opinion, the problem with these half-fish, half-fowl pedals is that 
> they need a functionality to set their default side. A weight of some sort 
> so if you won't accidentally be stepping on the clipless side if you're 
> wearing sneakers, or the flat side if you're wearing "tap-dancing" shoes. 
> Having used A530 on my commuter for a bit, I really don't enjoy flipping 
> the flat platform side over, especially when I'm wearing office-appropriate 
> shoes or boots.
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[RBW] Looking for silver ultegra 9s long cage RD

[Pat Smith]

Look for the XT M772 RD as well, it's silver and 9s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti parri motos vs switchbackhill 48c

[Pat Smith]

I like my switchback hills more than the wtb horizons they replaced, though 
I've heard the parimotos are pretty supple. 

I still wipe out all the time going around corners. Apparently the 48mm tires 
with low pressure don't corner as well as the 32mm tires on my other bike :-/

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[RBW] FS: Bags, Sackville, Ruthworks panniers, olive

[Pat Smith]

Wow those Ruthworks are beautiful. Didn't know he did panniers. Wish I didn't 
have a red bag fetish :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Pat Smith]

Soma sells "68mm" Tanaka fenders:


https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/tanaka-fenders-3554?search=Fender
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 9:01:58 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> If the VOs turn out to be to narrow, try Colin at Kelpie who makes custom 
> fat tire fenders in a thicker gauge of aluminum with 6.5 mm instead of 5 mm 
> stays; about $250 or so, IIRC. (He used to make them from titanium at $100 
> more but said they were so strong that, when he collected a stick under his 
> front, it bent the fork but not the fender; he started using aluminum after 
> that incident.)
>
> The finish is not polished, but they're not bad looking, and they are 
> strong. My Matthews RBFD has 3" of toe overlap with fender, so I kick the 
> front from time to time; no damage yet. And not too heavy, either; the 80 
> mm wide ones (to fit tires almost 62 mm wide) with second (tho' short) 
> front stay weigh about 2 lb the pair, about the weight of a pair of SKS's 
> in the wider sizes.
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 5:09 PM Justin  wrote:
>
>> I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange 
>> fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope 
>> to have a reason to try them out this winter 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everybody :^)
>>>
>>> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of 
>>> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the 
>>> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?  
>>> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do 
>>> they fit?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini Grilver 54 Frame/Fork/Headset/BB/Seatpost

[Pat Smith]

So I don't have a "pure road" bike. I've got a 650b all road and a road 
touring bike. Thoughts from the group on if this would be good to have as 
my only "pure road" bike? 


On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 10:09:32 AM UTC-4 RDS wrote:

> Brakes are sold.
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:51:50 PM UTC-4 RDS wrote:
>
>> Also for sale, Shimano Brakes BR-R451  - $35 shipped to continental USA.
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 8:44:27 PM UTC-4 RDS wrote:
>>
>>> For sale is a size 54 Grilver Roadini Frame/Fork/Headset/BB/Seatpost.  
>>> Purchased in Oct 2019 (from Rivelo I think).  Less than 500 miles on the 
>>> frame.  The included BB is Shimano BBUN55 113mm.  The worst scratches is on 
>>> the top tube where the bike rack arm pushed down on the cable onto the top 
>>> tube (see pics) & where the FD was located.  I will have the frame packed 
>>> by REI.  Ships from Georgia.  Asking $600 shipped to continental USA.  
>>> Contact offlist if interested.  Paypal for payment unless we can work out 
>>> another arrangement.  
>>> Pics:  
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8?usp=sharing
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: September Blow Out

[Pat Smith]

Hey Corwin I sent payment on the Nitto stems not realizing they were 26.0 
clamp. I'd like to actually pass on these if it's not too late.

Thanks
Pat

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:35:14 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

> PM sent on shifters.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 3:31:27 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> In spite of the virus, the fires, etc., 2020 has been really good for me. 
>> I seem to accumulate lots of parts. I have no room for them. So I want to 
>> send them to you! All prices below include shipping.
>>
>> 1) Silver friction levers mated to Shimano bar end pods. These are in 
>> great shape and have lots of miles left in them. These are the original 
>> Silver shifters - not the second generation recently released. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Campee Rack. Not sure which rack this is - but it came off the 
>> front of my son's SimpleOne. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 3) MKS Track Pedals. Great, inexpensive, durable pedals. Also in great 
>> shape. $15 shipped.
>>
>> 4) Vittoria 700c x 25/32mm tubes. $5 shipped for both.
>>
>> 5) Shimano Flat Bar Brake Levers. In great shape. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 6) Park Spanners. 13, 14 and 15mm. One each. $5 shipped for all three.
>>
>> 7) Lumotec IQ Headlight. Plenty of wire here. Was mounted to the Nitto 
>> rack above. Most of the wire ran to the tail light.
>>
>> 8) Velocity Quick Release Skewer. Came on my Hubbuhubbuh. I think the OLD 
>> is 140mm.
>>
>> 9) Tail Light. This went with the Lumotec IQ above. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 10) Third Hand Tool. A piece of ancient history. I used to clamp my 
>> brakes together with this thing to get cable slack, etc. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 11) Couple of sidepull brakes. A Shimano 600 "standard" reach, and a 
>> short reach brake. Not sure where these came from. Throwing in the lever in 
>> the picture as well $5 shipped for both.
>>
>> 12) Skewers from Schmidt Dynohubs. These take and allen wrench. $2 
>> shipped for both.
>>
>> 13) Riese and Müller Handlebar Mount for Dynamo Light. In great shape. 
>> Used sparingly. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 14) Ritchey 10 and 12cm Threadless Stems. These have two-bolt faceplates. 
>> Not sure about the rise. $10 shipped each.
>>
>> 15) Nitto UI-5GX Threadless Stems. These are some of the most elegant 
>> stems anywhere. Four bolt faceplates. $15 shipped each.
>>
>> 16) 18 tooth cog for your fixed gear. Not much wear on this one. Came off 
>> my son's fixed gear before he rode it. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 17) Nitto R Bottle Cages. These are the light ones. Very sleek and 
>> elegant. The solid ones - not the hollow ones. $20 shipped each.
>>
>> 18) Giant Threadless Stem. Not as pretty as the others - but it's a long 
>> one: 13cm. Two bolt faceplate. $5 shipped.
>>
>> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQCgqV1kruueocWP8
>>
>> If any of you are in the SF Bay Area and want to come to my house in 
>> Richmond, California to pick up one or more items, I will happily give them 
>> to you gratis for saving me the time, money and hassle of shipping them.
>>
>> And if you want to send me money via Paypal - please use czech "at" 
>> sonic.net.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: September Blow Out

[Pat Smith]

I'll take the Nitro stems. Sending PayPal now.


On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 6:23:53 AM UTC-4 esoterica etc wrote:

>
> PM sent for 4,5,6 & 17
>
> On Sep 23, 2020, at 05:03, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> PM Sent for the rNitto rack and Shimano levers. 
>
> Marty
>
>
>
>> 2) Nitto Campee Rack. Not sure which rack this is - but it came off the 
>> front of my son's SimpleOne. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 5) Shimano Flat Bar Brake Levers. In great shape. $10 shipped.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[Pat Smith]

I'm a big fan of the traditional 2 pannier setup. All these special 
bikepacking bags seem more hassle than they are worth. 

Get a decent rack, like a Blackburn Grid (or something nicer if you're 
feeling fancy) and a pair of Ortlieb backrollers and you're good to go for 
a night or two. The space on top of the rack between the two panniers is 
good for bungee cording a tarp/footprint or whatever else is weatherproof. 
What I found was getting the actual camping gear was more effort (bag, 
tent, pad, cookware, etc.). I do like a small handlebar or saddle bag for 
my cell/keys/wallet type of items. 

Two panniers may be a bit overkill on a S24O in warm weather, but if you're 
only on your bike for a day or so the little extra weight and capacity 
won't kill you.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:41:08 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
>
> Hello all, 
>
> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any 
> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the 
> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>
> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a 
> backpack or bike basket and going. 
>
> Jason 
> SF, CA

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[RBW] Racer Wald basket

[Pat Smith]

Soma also sells the half height Walds. I think in black or silver. I know they 
were running a free shipping promo a week or two back, not sure if that's still 
active. 

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[RBW] ISO: Decaleur for rando bag

[Pat Smith]

Hi all, got my first rando bag in route, a Restrap Rando Bag. I'm attaching 
it to a Rawland Rando Rack and looking for a decaleur. Was planning on 
buying a VO decaleur at the VO garage sale next week (which has of course 
been canceled) looking to see if anyone has anything laying around they are 
looking to offload before getting the VO. 


Patrick in DC
pbsmi...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Pat Smith]

Don't sleep on Chippewa boots either, I find they fit my wide foot/narrow 
heel a little better than my Redwings. That said, neither brand is 
particularly 'all day comfort' for me.

I did have Redwing work boots (safety toe) with the "king toe" feature a 
few years back when I needed them for my job and those things were 
comfortable on my feet for 12+ hours a day. Since moving to an office job 
with dress shoes (Allen Edmonds in EE or EEE widths) I seem to be having 
more foot problems. Also the time I got into cycling so maybe the two are 
related

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[RBW] Re: PSA: stop swap and save

[Pat Smith]

Looks dangerous for my wallet and my wife's happiness. I should stay away, 
good thing I don't own a car to drive myself there.

Pat in DC

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[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

[Pat Smith]

I have had a pair of "Bike-Packer Plus" bags for some time now, not quite 
the same as the "Sport-Packer Classics" you mentioned, but they are the 
same design, just larger (meant for rear instead of front) and with a 
little better material.

So I like a couple things about the Ortlieb Bike Packers - they have a 
small front pocket, they are mostly waterproof (but not like a back 
roller), and they can be over stuffed! The overstuffing comes from a second 
set of draw cords inside the bag that allow the vertical height to be 
increased by several inches. This works well for light and longer items and 
I have used this feature frequently when grocery shopping or bike camping.

So I dislike a one thing about the Bike Packers as well - the ability to 
carry them off bike. I use an Ortlieb Bike Shopper as my daily bag for 
commuting. It's great because it has a simple zip closure and a really 
comfortable permanent handle to carry it off bike. Compared to the Bike 
Shopper the Bike Packer is a super pain to carry. You can either carry it 
by the release strap (not really the purpose) or you can carry it by using 
the shoulder strap. The should strap can be cinched short enough to carry 
by hand, but it's not as comfortable as the Bike Shopper handle. But the 
real drawback here is that the carry strap MUST be removed before cycling. 
There is no way to secure down the carry strap on the Bike Packer and it is 
extremely dangerous as it can catch in your spokes and cause a crash. I've 
read more than one account of this happening online, and I've personally 
left mine on and had it start to get tangled in my spokes - luckily I was 
rolling at a slow speed and stopped immediately. 

So here is where I'm at - the Bike Packer (or in your case, you're looking 
at the Sport Packer) is great for touring - it holds a ton and has a nice 
design on bike, but practically speaking it is not great for frequent 
carrying use. I am over the moon with my Ortlieb Bike Shopper for exactly 
your scenario - groceries. Note that I almost never zip closed the BIke 
Shopper, I just leave it open as a tub. It holds a normal paper grocery bag 
worth of groceries just fine if you keep it open, a little less if you try 
to zip it closed. 

Patrick in DC

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar bag

[Pat Smith]

Check out this posting over at the 650b 
listserv: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/650b/Jrs-JG5n11U/KTbke3c2CAAJ

Tall Acorn Rando Bag for $150 shipped like new condition. I'd be all over 
it if I didn't just spend way too much money on other things.

Patrick in DC

On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:15:58 PM UTC-5, Sean Hipkin wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm on the hunt for a tall handlebar bag. Something like a Large 
> Gilles Berthoug. Thanks so much!
>
> Sean
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[RBW] Re: 2020 Goals

[Pat Smith]

Cycling goals:
1) 2000+ miles. My goal this year was 1500 and I did 2000 so that shouldn't be 
a problem
2) Finish building my 650b all road bike. It's 80% done now and all parts are 
bought so again it shouldn't be a problem.
3) complete my first century ride. I did one metric century this year so I've 
got a long way to go.
4) continue to be a full time bike commuter. 4 years strong now so this 
shouldn't be a problem.

Non cycling goals:
1) get to the gym (weights) 150 times this year. Was a 2019 goal too and only 
made about 115. 
2) bring lunch to work 2 days a week. I'm currently a 5 day a week eat out guy. 

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