[RBW] Re: stripped braze-on
Longer bolt with a nut on the other side. A Nyloc may be too thick. In fact a regular nut may contact the cogs. I just file the nut and bolt until it clears. You'll end up with a de facto sheer stop nut. Phil Brown Nice today in Oakland, Calif. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:28:28 PM UTC-8, Mobile Bill wrote: > > Hope y'all are getting some time off for riding. In the 70s here, but > raining cats and dogs for two days, so working on my bikes and looking for > the most practical, creative and immediate solution to a stripped braze-on > on my Betty, unfortunately the BO to which the rear rack attaches. Don't > know how it happened. Just noticed the rack was loose, and that I could > tighten. The 5 mm screw was a little bunged, as well. Tried another screw > and it gripped a little deeper, but eventually started spinning as well. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation
What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is from the BB teflon tape may cure it. Phil Brown On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:25:35 AM UTC-7, Mojo wrote: > > So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: > When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each pedal stroke, > before you tighten the chainring bolts, before you tighten the crankarm > bolts, before you pull your crankarms and reinstall, before you pull the > crankarms again and replace the bottom bracket cartridge... try tightening > down the pedals. It might save you an hour or your precious time. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Saluki
My remembrance is 61 but it could be 60. It's big and it fit me. Phil On Feb 1, 5:20 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > Hi Phil, Salukis were even number sized frames, do you know if it is a 60 > or 62? > > http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html > > Bleriots were the odd #'s. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Phil Brown wrote: > > The Saluki is priced at $1800 and I'm sure-but haven't asked-that > > Bradley would shoot pictures to anybody who wants them > > Phil Brown > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > ** > "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby > can't chew it." -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Saluki
The Saluki is priced at $1800 and I'm sure-but haven't asked-that Bradley would shoot pictures to anybody who wants them Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Saluki
Sorry, I'm still in the hospital and have no pics and you will have to call American for the price. I'll try to post it later today but they don't open for an hour and a half. Phil On Feb 1, 9:25 am, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > Pics and price? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 61cm Saluki
Due to medical issues I can no longer ride so my beautiful grey Saluki is for sale. It's a big one, 61cm and assembled with Nitto and Velo Orange parts. Fenders, racks, it's a really nice bike. It's at American Cyclery in San Francisco-415-664-4545-and I'm sure they'll ship it anywhere. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Will a smaller frame put me further behind bb?
It will be a bit forward but unless you are very, very picky you won't notice the difference after 5 minutes. And about the seat post try a Campy 2 bolt. It will get a saddle about as far back as you can get it. Phil Brown On Jan 8, 10:07 pm, Michael wrote: > If it is the same model? > Like, say I had to choose between a 55 and a 54 Homer. > I think the answer would be no, because they are proportionately the same. > But not sure. Thought I'd ask you all. > I like shoving the saddle all the way back and wish it could go back more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding in Marin
Ah, yes. Ridgecrest, Fairfax-Bolinas Road, Alpine Lake. Back when I was young and strong that loop was one of our normal rides. I chased many now famous names up and down those roads. And I mean chased. I was always shot off the back. Phil Brown On Dec 26, 11:20 pm, Hetchins52 wrote: > You might want to do some gorgeous road miles by getting on Panoramic > Highway and climbing up to Pantol Ranger Station then climbing some more > and follow the ridge line (Ridgecrest) and then Bolinas-Fairfax Rd. down to > Alpine Lake. From there, climb up toward Pine Mountain and descend into > Fairfax. You can experience some more Marin ambience at the Fairfax coffee > shops and eateries. > Wander back through Ross, Corte Madera and Mill Valley. You can take fire > roads back to the Headlands. > This may take some help from passing cyclists but most would be happy to > lead you if they are going the same direction. > Western Marin County is a wonderland for biking! > > On Tuesday, December 25, 2012 5:48:58 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha > > > > > > > > Cyclery wrote: > > > Today I rode Miwok, Bobcat, Marincello, Tennessee Valley, and Old Springs > > Trails in the Marin Headlands. I also detoured to Haypress campground, but > > given the sogginess after the all-day rain, I opted to go over the big hill > > back to the warmth and excellent coffee of the Marin Headlands Hostel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recreating Rivendell's pea sage green?
As I recall this color matched a Testors green. Grant did this for easy touch up any where. Phil Brown On Nov 14, 7:21 am, Leslie wrote: > I've always thought it looked like the light sage pastel green that old > Series Land Rovers were painted in...http://www.landrover.net/paint/ > > Having not seen a bike that color in person, I don't know if it's that > close or not, but, if I was having one repainted, I'd probably go w/ a > Rover color (being my other hobby). > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:02:51 AM UTC-5, spru...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Has anyone tried to recreate Rivendell's pea sage green color? And, if you > > were successful, do you know the PPG or House of Kolor equivalents? (I'm > > considering the color as an alternative to Schwinn's Campus Green as I have > > a local frame builder respray an old Paramount frame.) > > > Thanks, > > David Sprunger > > Fargo, ND -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 62cm Saluki
With regret I'm selling my hardly ridden grey Saluki. 62 (Riv measurement, I'd call it a 60) by 61. Eclectic component mix that works perfectly. Velo Orange racks and fenders, Riv economy wheels, Paris Moto tires, Nitto bars and stem, Deore FD and RD, Tekro brakes, Mafac levers, etc. You can have a choice of saddles from my selection including Brooks, Tom Ritchey. Specialized, Avocet and probably some more. I'd like to keep the pedals-XC Pro with Suberbe cages-but as always cash talks. $1750. Offers welcome but I reserve the right to laugh at low ball offers. I'm not desperate to sell and would like it to go to a good home. I'm not sure how to post photos but will happily send them. Phil Brown Oakland, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
Plus, he was hit on his motorcycle there. On Nov 4, 10:34 pm, Jim Cloud wrote: > Since you haven't lived in Tucson, I don't think you should judge what > our conditions are regarding cycling. I've lived here since 1978, > Tucson is definitely a very good place for cycling (I've also lived in > Boulder, CO, by the way). Tucson is rated a Gold status as a "Bicycle > Friendly City" by the League of American Bicyclists. > > If you happen to know any city in the U.S., of a size approximate to > Tucson (roughly 1,000,000) with drivers who never behave in an > aggressive or discourteous manner to cyclists, please let me know > where that city is located. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ > > On Nov 4, 4:37 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > > > > > > > He "dissed the place" for multiple run-ins with maniac drivers. I'd be > > pissed, too. > > > Joe Bernard > > Vallejo, CA. > > > On Sunday, November 4, 2012 1:02:30 PM UTC-8, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > It's 15.2 miles from Denver to Golden, not so many mile-high miles. > > > Maynard Hershon once lived in Tucson, until he dissed the place and > > > moved on. He hasn't been missed here to my knowledge... > > > > Jim Cloud > > > Tucson, AZ > > > > On Nov 4, 11:26 am, cyclotourist wrote: > > > >http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-upended-campaign... > > > > > Third to last paragraph. Sounds like he's putting in some mile-high > > > miles! > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > David > > > > Redlands, CA > > > > > ** > > > > "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby > > > > can't chew it." -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...
Skippy was The Airplane's original drummer. Phil Brown Was there as a roadie and had my amps repaired in Oakland, Calif. where I now live. On Oct 24, 6:39 pm, Tony wrote: > Yes and yes. There is a live show I bought from the Wolfgang site > recorded just before Surrealistic Pillow was released where Kantner > introduces "My Best Friend" as a song written by Skip Spence from Moby > Grape. I hadn't realized that. > > Tony > > On Oct 23, 9:13 pm, lungimsam wrote: > > > > > > > > > Are you both a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan? > > > Was wondering about the SanFran cultural/possible generational link. > > > I am a Marylander. But a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan. > > Listening to "You're my Best Friend" while cycling on quiet roads in the > > Spring is such a nice feeling. > > > There is a Rivendell/Mac question on Jim's site. Though more obscure, > > thought I would ask this one because of the SF area focus of the two, and > > I'm a fan of both. > > > Moderator, feel free to remove if this question is not approporiate to the > > forum, with my apologies... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...
Believe it or not there's a cycling connection. Jack was-or is-a cyclist. I remember him riding fixed on the street 30 years ago. Many more cycling/music connections. Phil Brown On Oct 23, 9:13 pm, lungimsam wrote: > Are you both a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan? > > Was wondering about the SanFran cultural/possible generational link. > > I am a Marylander. But a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan. > Listening to "You're my Best Friend" while cycling on quiet roads in the > Spring is such a nice feeling. > > There is a Rivendell/Mac question on Jim's site. Though more obscure, > thought I would ask this one because of the SF area focus of the two, and > I'm a fan of both. > > Moderator, feel free to remove if this question is not approporiate to the > forum, with my apologies... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bay Area paint job recommendations?
Ed Litton. On Oct 16, 11:03 pm, Jared Volpe wrote: > Any suggestions for a paint job in the Bay Area? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Chris King gourmet century video
This event was run by Tim Neenan in the Santa Ynez Valley for many years. Phil Brown On Aug 22, 11:36 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > Looks like it was a nice event: > > http://vimeo.com/47107889 > > Some dude interviewed was wearing a Rivendell jersey. Anyone on this list? > > Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hip Trouble
I have a good friend in his late 60s who broke his femur in a cycling accident and is fine now. Not even a limp. And one of my legs was shattered in 1984 and aside from a limited range of motion which is OK on the bike I'm fine. Good luck. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy
I have a Phil BB that I bought in the early 70s that's installed and still going strong. I also have a set of the 3 piece hubs and they're rolling along as well. Phil Brown Saluki assembly again today with another Phil BB in Oakland, Calif On Apr 4, 8:59 am, Ablejack wrote: > I ride a phil bb installed in '99. No problems, but that doesn't mean much > as it's anecdotal. If I ever need a new on I would get an SKF. > *SKF* (they are the bearing company of the world) guarantees the BB for > 10,000 miles. Much longer than anyone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?
Depending on the alloy stainless teel work hardens pretty easily and forming the fender in a press would work harden it. Phil Brown On Dec 22, 6:31 am, Jan Heine wrote: > On Dec 21, 5:17 pm, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > > > I also went to Vol 2 #1 and saw no actual testing of the Berthoud steel > > fender in that article under metal fenders. > > Back then, the Berthoud fenders were sold under the "Cagnion" brand, > and you could only get them in France. We simply labeled them "French > stainless steel." They are the same fenders. > > We have had several test bikes with cracked Berthoud fenders, but on > the other hand, I know riders who have ridden for years with Berthoud > fenders with no problems. It may be an installation issue (see below), > or occur during shipping, if the rear fender is pushed forward in the > box. > > The longest-lasting fenders appear to be the aluminum fenders. I have > seen bikes with 100,000+ miles on the same set of fenders. The Honjo > fenders on my Alex Singer now have lasted for 6 years and at least > 40,000 miles. (I only replaced the 1973 originals because I wanted to > use wider tires, not because they were failing.) > > With Honjo fenders (and probably Berthoud), it is crucial that they > are shaped as desired before installation. Pulling the fenders into > position with the stays puts constant stresses on the fenders and will > lead to premature failure. (The same probably applies to plastic > fenders, but you cannot reshape them easily, which may be why they > only last a few years.) > > Jan Heine > Editor > Bicycle Quarterlyhttp://www.bikequarterly.com > > Follow our blog athttp://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's the deal with that hole in seatstay bridges?
On Dec 1, 6:47 pm, benzzoy wrote: > I don't even know if it is advisable to mount plastic fenders directly > without brackets. In my experience, plastic fenders are significant > heavier than aluminum fenders, so I imagine extra reinforcements to > spread the load and reduce stress will be necessary. Works fine. I've had a couple of bikes worth for many years. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne
I don't believe the torsion load to be meaningful and anyway it's shared by the down tube. Phil Brown On Jun 7, 8:05 pm, "Bill M." wrote: > The top tube is loaded in more than just compression. Back in the > '80's a Caltrans engineer named Rick Jorgensen did some FIA on frames, > and determined that the top tube is loaded in torsion. Imagine > removing the down tube from a frame. The force of pedaling would make > the seat tube want to deflect sideways, out of plane with the head > tube. That force would be seen as twisting by the top tube. The same > mechanism holds when the down tube is present. > > That twisting mode of the frame is why I tend to think that the > 'diagatube' design is actually a structural improvement over the > parallel undertube. The middle of the seat tube is a great place for > the extra tube to try to resist twisting. The 'marathion' tube in > some tandem designs works the same way which is why Jorgensen included > them in the Tango tandem frames he built. > > A 56 Sam is too big for me, so it's really moot, but I'd regard the > extra tube as overkill for me and the way I would use a Sam. I'm > actually going the other way, with a 650b Rawland Sogn built with > light .8/.5/.8 tubes and a 1" top tube. I've never owned bike that I > thought was too flexible. I also don't generally carry heavy touring > loads. > > Bill > > On Jun 7, 10:55 am, Phil Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > The double top tube isn't really necessary. I once made a standard > > tube bike with a very light top tube as an experiment. I'm 6'3" and > > weighed at the time 210 and I could notice no difference from my other > > bikes with the same geometry and heavier top tubes. It's loaded in > > compression and doesn't need to be real heavy. It just locates the > > head and seat tubes the correct distance from each other. > > Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne
The double top tube isn't really necessary. I once made a standard tube bike with a very light top tube as an experiment. I'm 6'3" and weighed at the time 210 and I could notice no difference from my other bikes with the same geometry and heavier top tubes. It's loaded in compression and doesn't need to be real heavy. It just locates the head and seat tubes the correct distance from each other. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?
The 2 bolt Campy Record i tough to beat and plenty are available used, esp. in 27.2. Phil Brown Have plenty of them myself in Oakland, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Long Low for sale
There is a Long Low prototype for sale here in the Bay Area. The owner may post it later but for now contact me. It's 60 by 59 I believe, green and white and if it had a bit longer top tube I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The price is $1550 and I can put you in touch with the seller. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Larkspur Tunnel Open
On Dec 12, 7:10 am, Ray Shine wrote: > Eric -- Yep, that was a section of the old NWP. I, too, am a railroad buff. > I > particularly like old streetcars. I work for the SFMTA, which used to be > called > the San Francisco Municipal Railway. Yup. Northwestern Pacific. My family was from Marin County and I remember when trains ran through the tunnel to serve the Tiburon car ferry and yard and the quarry on the south side, now a shopping center. If you're interested in what it looked like in the old days see Dirty Harry where part of the chase takes place on this piece of road and in the quarry. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames
On Nov 30, 10:22 am, Marty wrote: > Phil, there is such a thing as a dove-tail scarf joint, and this is > one of 'em. Agree there are more elaborate joints out there, but this > gets the job done. Not sure if the cross section drives the choice of > joint, but I suspect a more complex scarf would be problematic in a > timber that is a foot square. > As far back as the Romans much more complex scarf joints with very large timbers were used in the keels of their ships. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT: Lugged Bikes vs.Timber-Frames
On Nov 30, 7:27 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > I can't get over how nicely they dove-tail joined the footer beam (to > lengthen it) Another builder might have discarded the 2 pieces in > favor of a longer one, or worse, bolted them together with steel > plates, then felt compelled to hide it under a facade. Amazing > craftsmanship; truly a thing of beauty. (I think I'll go polish my > lugs at lunch time thanks, Marty). > > BB It's not a dovetail, it's a scarf.And if you look up scarf joints you will find it's not a particularly complex one. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?
On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose wrote: > Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm > curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are. > > In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis with > bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a cable lock during the day. No > one there pays too much attention to an old looking slow bike with a > bunch of crap on it (ha!). > > Here I see only beater-bikes with no bags/lights/brooks parked on the > street. > > So I'm wondering how secure I should go. Never leave lights on the > bike? Cover up the Rivendell logos? Get one of those locking seat > post clamp things? I realize that no bike on the street is ever safe, > but I'd like get a sense of what the probability of getting my stuff > jacked here is. > > Oh, and I'm asking for during the day coffee and errand type trips. > For BART parking and late-night pub crawls I just bought a $50 > craigslist special, but I would really like to be on my Atlantis as > much as I can be. > > Thanks in advance, > -- J. I live about 6 blocks west of you in Temescal and I NEVER leave my bike anywhere out of my sight. Period. Theft in the area is oppurtunistic, not highly organized. But it very definately exists. There's a bike shop on Telegraph that serves as a fence for stolen bikes and he's always got lots of bikes. Sadly Oakland is the crime capitol of the East Bay due in large part to the inaction of the police. They will not even take a report on stolen property. Berkeley, just to the north, is a completely different story. Go figure. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?
I will be assembling and riding the Saluki I'm staring at right now. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SUZUE Bearing Replacement
On Jun 23, 8:00 pm, Larry Powers wrote: > I had a wobble in the rear wheel of my Quickbeam. I found that the nuts on > one side were loose and thought it would be an easy fix. Even after > tightening the nuts there was still a bit of a wobble so it is time to > replacement bearings. > > I pulled off the nuts on both sides and the dust cover on one side so I could > see the bearings. What next? How do I extricate the bearings? Last wheel I > worked on had cup and cone bearings and the Park tool website did not have a > description of how to remove cartridge bearings. > > Thanks in advance. > > Larry Powers > Suzue/.Sunshine/Suntour sealed bearing hubs required a special tool to pull the bearings that Loose Screws used to sell. Do they still? Good question. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Photography with a Leica. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Boeshield just once?
On Mar 22, 4:32 am, M9091666 wrote: > After reading several bicycle forums, considering the many > alternatives, I've settled on Frame Saver. I know that GP and other > bike shops use Boeshield, but I'm convinced it is because Frame Saver > is a mess to apply and clean up compared to Boeshield -- as I > discovered yesterday. > Framesaver cleans up very easily with alcohol, which won't hurt the paint on the frame. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Boeshield just once?
Bosheild for chains, Framesaver for frames. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Carboon Bashing- was: Riv resurrecting and selling crashed frames
On Mar 6, 9:41 am, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:22 AM, bfd wrote: > > > I know many here will disagree with me, but I'm tired of Grant's > > constant carbon bashing. What he doesn't mention is that carbon frames > > can be repaired. Craig Calfee repairs carbon fiber frames and does a > > fantastic job. > > Unfortunately many carbon repairs fall into the scenario of shutting > the barn doors after the horse is gone. Since the first inkling of a > carbon failure is often catastrophic, your frame or fork might be > repairable but you may be preoccupied with recovering from your > injuries when your steerer tube snapped or the head tube parted > company with the rest of the frame. > > E.g.,http://www.bustedcarbon.com/ > > Steel just does not fail in this manner unless you ignore obvious > warning signs for a very long time. You could run over a steel bike > wiith a cement mixer and it would fare better than many of the items > on that blog have fared in pretty normal accidents. Grant's pointing > out the problems with carbon doesn't strike me as desperate, it > strikes me as concerned about people's safety. Well, I don't mean to play devil's advocate-actually, I do, Tim, but when was the last time any of us actually did a pre-ride inspection similar to a pre-flight walk around a pilot of a light aircraft does? Have we checked for cracks, damage or other indicator of ill health in our bikes? I haven't recently and I'll bet many of us are as delinquent. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv resurrecting and selling crashed frames
On Mar 5, 10:32 am, newenglandbike wrote: > naturally, however i think rivendell's lugs/crowns are exclusively > their own I think that Grant would send a crown directly to an established builder. I know this policy has tightened up but I still think he'd do it. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv resurrecting and selling crashed frames
On Mar 5, 8:32 am, newenglandbike wrote: > I've wished that myself- it would be nice to have replacement forks > available for various models.Not sure how feasible that would be > for Rivendell, though. > > On Mar 5, 11:24 am, Alexander Burns wrote: > > > Along the same lines, I'd love to see Resurrectio (tm) forks > > available. Any hope there'll ever be such a thing (besides the Upgrade > > Fork already offered)? > > > On Mar 5, 1:38 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/204 Any frame builder would be happy to make you a set of complimentary forks with the crown of your choice. Phil Brown > > > > What a great idea! > > > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Desirable Braze-ons?
On Feb 20, 6:10 pm, Angus wrote: a bottle opener braze-on. > A front wheel dropout can be artfully filed into a bottle opener without altering its wheel holding duties. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
On Feb 2, 10:16 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > Phil, I am not familiar with the White Fence trail, at least by that > name. Where specifically does it originate in Studio City? Thanks! I don't remember the street names but in the little housing area south of Ventura and west of Laurel it you just keep going south and west eventually you end up on the last street going that way and at the end is a trail going up the hill to the fire road. Going the other way if you go up the fire road from the little park on Laurel Canyon there's a flat about halfway up. The train joining on your right is White Fence. good luck. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Franklin Canyon Ride
On Jan 31, 12:07 pm, Brad Gantt wrote: > I took a nice ride over the hill to Franklin Canyon yesterday. The > canyon is still quite wet from the recent rains and quite green. After > climbing out on the Hollywood side, I headed over to Benedict Canyon > which is a nice long climb that gets progressively steeper as you near > the top. At only 16.5 miles, the ride still packs in a lot of > vertical. It was a great ride. > > A few shots are posted here. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/17053...@n02/sets/72157623321440696/ When I lived in North Hollywood that area was my normal riding area. There are lots of options to go over the hill to Hollywood and vice versa. On the Valley side there is a great fire road-dirt but hard pack-from Laurel Canyon to the top of the ridge at Mulholland and Coldwater. There is also a trail called White Fence that gets you there from Studio City about half way up the fire road. At the top of the ridge you dip down to Beverly Hills and then loop around Benedict. In the old days-80s-There was a great fire road from the bottom of the canyon to the top of Coldwater-ruined by development-and a terrific playground to the west on the old golf course now taken up with multi million dollar homes. I think it's called Beverly Park. I miss it. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best non-cleat clip 'n' strap shoes
On Jan 15, 7:11 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Ditto for the nice > sheepskin-lined winter Sidis which have in fact been resoled but with soles > a bit thick and too slippery; perhaps have them resoled in boat shoe type > vibram. > What are y'all's experiences and recommendations? > > -- > Patrick Moore My cobbler has resoled my boat shoes with a stiffer sole that is great on the bike. He's also resoled another pair wiht a herringbone pattern sole that is good but the herringbone tends to catch when entering. Cobblers have a lot of soles and I'd ask to see them.Also, a thin sheet metal plate can be inserted in the sole if you want it really stiff. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Awesome DIY Bamboo Bike Builders @ NYC
On Dec 23, 9:39 am, bfd wrote: > On Dec 23, 12:58 am, Michael Shaljian wrote: > > > > > I heard about this Bamboo Bike Studio from my sister, who lives in > > Brooklyn; apparently this outfit has also had exposure on NPR. It > > seems they are offering two day classes where you can go home with > > your own handbuilt bamboo frame for about $650. > > > Check em' out here:http://bamboobikestudio.com/go/home Or just go to instructables.com and there are step by step instructions for building your own bamboo/CF bike. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: saturday sales
On Dec 18, 1:17 pm, Esteban wrote: > I think that part of the project is to bring in traffic on > Saturdays. > > Of course, for all of us currently outside of the Bay Area, these are > hard to hear about!!! > > Esteban > San Diego, Calif. I5 to I580 to I680. It's easy from San Diego. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 16, 10:34 am, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:21, Phil Brown wrote: > > > > > On Dec 16, 9:35 am, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > > >> A while back, I was told by someone at Riv, that they were going to > >> order a few of the separate bolts, so folks could do their own > >> conversions. I'm guessing that never happened? > > > Well, if you;re going to pull the mounting stud why not just get a > > nice metric bolt the right length, perhaps in stainless, and use it? > > Shouldn't be too hard to source. > > Phil Brown > > It's a special bolt with a very thin "head" and two different sized > threaded portions. > > Ryan You miss my point. After you pull the brake bolt all you need is a regular bolt that threads into the brake arch. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 16, 9:35 am, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > A while back, I was told by someone at Riv, that they were going to > order a few of the separate bolts, so folks could do their own > conversions. I'm guessing that never happened? Well, if you;re going to pull the mounting stud why not just get a nice metric bolt the right length, perhaps in stainless, and use it? Shouldn't be too hard to source. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud wrote: > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. > > By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro > R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify > a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a > conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27" wheel size to 700c. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ Put the front on the rear and put the rear on the front with the nut- Allen-inside the steerer and accessed through the hole in the rear of the crown. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: When and where to get a frame repainted.
On Dec 4, 4:00 pm, J L wrote: > I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. > > Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? > > -Jason Here in The Bay Area I'd call Ed Litton but you could also just send it to Joe Bell for that factory fresh feeling. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yea, back on the bike
On Nov 24, 1:20 pm, LouisvillePatrick wrote: > This is inspiring! Nice work. > > Patrick > Louisville, Ky. You want inspiring, I got it. 4 weeks ago I had arthroscopic knee surgery to repair a damaged meniscus, remove a marble size bone chip and in general clean up the arthritic damage. I took my first ride a week ago-not long but I'm back on the bike. The thing is, I had almost the identical surgery on the other knee 9 years ago, was on crutches for 2 weeks and at this point I was still walking with a cane and not on the bike yet. This time I walked out of the hospital and never used crutches. It's unbelievable how much the art has advanced in 9 years. Thank God for the government run health care that I receive from the VA. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: romulus headset question
On Nov 17, 7:23 am, Mike wrote: > Why not just throw down and get a Chris King? Seems the best way to > go. Sure, it's expensive but you'll most likely not have to worry > about it again. > > --mike > > On Nov 17, 6:53 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM, newenglandbike > > wrote: > > > > Tange Levin headsets are about $20, one of those would fit too. > > > I was thinking sealed bearings might make sense but I'm willing to be > > wrong about that. Suggestions? > > > -sv I had a Tange Levin in my Fisher Mt. Tam that I bought in 1982 or 3 that was still working fine with no brinelling or any problem when I sold it in 2007. Nuff said. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: canti brakes
On Oct 11, 11:15 am, CycloFiend wrote: > > I also have an old set of mafac tandem cantis that I took off an old > > gitane frame. I guess I could pop those on. > > > Any thoughts? > > IME, you haven't heard squeal until you've run MAFAC's... ...on the stock pads. For the classic look I use La Vipiere, for modern stopping power almost any canti post pad will work. And no squeal. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Frames with differnt forks
On Oct 9, 10:51 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > I think it's a 1" threaded and a 9/8ths threadless. > > I think the headtube is built for a 9/8th threadless and then shimmed > for the 1"threaded. > I seem to remember reading that before. > -sv Nope, the frames are identical. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: news post about the Yen
On Oct 7, 12:12 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:10 PM, newenglandbike > wrote: > > > Regarding Nitto, I think it would be prohibitively costly for an > > American company to acquire the tooling necessary for forging stems, > > etc... Well, maybe prohibitive is not the right word-- what I mean > > is unattractive from a business standpoint. > > > On the other hand, there ARE great companies right here in the U.S. > > who machine fine aluminum products, for example Super Rat Machine > > works: > > >http://www.superratmachine.com/ > > > Super Rat Machine Works was started by Phil Wasson, an insanely > > talented BMX rider once associated with the (also Made-in-USA) frame > > company called FBM. SRM makes very good parts. > > I'm confused - in the earlier riv readers I thought I had read that > riv had paid for the tooling for some of the specific parts they > wanted. Why can't those be transferred to another manufacturer? Or > maybe I'm misremembering. > > -sv First, if we're talking about stems machining is a poor way to go about it. Forging provides the best grain alignment. And tooling is typically machine dependent and it's unlikely that 2 companies would have the same machinery. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hunting a Rivish Tandem
I strongly suggest craigslist. There are many lightly used tandems at bargain prices on almost any craigslist. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com
On Aug 28, 2:46 pm, Bill Connell wrote: The best option is > probably to get an unpainted frame and have a local framebuilder swap > out the mounts for you.-- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN Sorry, no frame builder in his right mind will sell you an unpainted frame. 95% of what people think a "good bike" is, is paint. Bad paint, bad bike. I'm shocked that Riv sells the clear powder coated bikes. Big chance of a bad paint job. Phil Brown --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
