[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Thanks all, the rack has been sold.

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:56:10 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> As of today the rack is still available. Please reach out with any 
> questions!
>
> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7 Steve wrote:
>
>> Todd, PM sent. Thanks
>>
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-4 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Rack is still available. This is a pretty nice rack, I just don’t have 
>>> use for it right now. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 7:48:51 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Emailed
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bump
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rack is still available
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>>>>>>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/vnYG43N6hhtsm5T38> - $80 
>>>>>>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

As of today the rack is still available. Please reach out with any 
questions!

On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7 Steve wrote:

> Todd, PM sent. Thanks
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-4 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Rack is still available. This is a pretty nice rack, I just don’t have 
>> use for it right now. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 7:48:51 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:
>>
>>> Emailed
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bump
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rack is still available
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>>>>>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/vnYG43N6hhtsm5T38> - $80 
>>>>>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Rack is still available. This is a pretty nice rack, I just don’t have use 
for it right now. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 7:48:51 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:

> Emailed
>
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bump
>>
>> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Rack is still available
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>>>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>>>
>>>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/vnYG43N6hhtsm5T38> - $80 
>>>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Bump

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Rack is still available
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks ago, 
>> but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>
>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/vnYG43N6hhtsm5T38> - $80 
>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>
>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Rack is still available

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks ago, 
> but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>
> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/vnYG43N6hhtsm5T38> - $80 
> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>
> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Hi all,

I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks ago, 
but have since decided to run a different front rack.

Link to photos  - $80 shipped, 
or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA

Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 


Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Atlantis special disc edition

[Todd G]

Disc brakes on this era of Atlantis make me very happy! So good!



On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:19:56 PM UTC-8 frank_a wrote:

>
> I used to own this bike. It was a demo that I bought complete from 
> Rivendell. I sold it to a  forum member and he’s the one who added   the 
> disc mounts. He listed it for sale not long after that as I remember. I 
> still have the original unadulterated fork.
>   - Frank 
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 4:50:28 PM UTC-5 milesh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Patrick, tires are Soma Cazadero 700x50mm. They’re an underrated gravel 
>> tire I think. Fast, very light, supple, perform pretty well in a variety of 
>> conditions and terrains, dry and wet. 
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Or, "baulk."
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 2:13 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 George: I daresay Grant would balk at this conversion. 

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Re: [RBW] Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Todd G]

I’ve had good success using the flat sides of a 6 or 8mm Hex wrench. Gently 
rotating, or applying gentle up or down prying type pressure has always 
worked well for me. 

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 8:29:37 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:

> +1 on the coin trick, but I've used a large flat washer, no federal 
> offense committed :P
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:26:33 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This works if the threaded hole is open at the outer end but not if it's 
>> capped. I've managed to spread Nitto stems with a large flathead 
>> screwdriver but yes, the Nitto spreader tool is far easier to use. If the 
>> absence of the Nitto tool, a thin but stiff and sturdy and properly thick 
>> piece of steel works better than the flathead which will have a tapered 
>> profile that makes this use awkward.
>>
>> FWIW, way back in the day when I several times installed drop bars onto 
>> my 55 cm XO-1 and my first, similarly-sized (54 cm) 1995 Riv road custom 
>> (Grant said "Don't you dare" when I told him I'd tell others how much I 
>> liked the compact, XO-1-style frame design, but I think the statute of 
>> limitations has expired) using the penny trick. In fact, several times I 
>> installed a 26.4 mm Cinelli Giro d'Italia bar into 25.4mm Tioga and Salsa 
>> steel stems using this method; steel is very forgiving.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:13 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I usually have a nickel (with a few, round dents already in it) 
>>> somewhere on one of my work stands for when I need to do this. Dime is too 
>>> thin, a penny too soft and a quarter is too valuable!
>>> David in Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:27:32 PM UTC-8 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>>
 Hi Brian, 

 If your stem has a tapped hole for the clamp bolt (as many steel stems 
 have, rather than a loose nut like many aluminum Nittos) you can use this 
 method:

 Helpful tip: Take the pinch bolt out. Insert a coin in the slot between 
 the clamp area. Thread the bolt in from the back side. Tighten it against 
 the coin. It will force the clamp open and it will stay that way during 
 your install.

 (I copied this from the net, rather than type up my own description.)

>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Wald 137 basket w/o hardware

[Todd G]

Edward, thanks you’re absolutely right. I suppose I should just open this 
up to 137’s with or without hardware. I know that the hardware is easy to 
remove. I was requesting no hardware to potentially save a few $$ on 
shipping. I imagine that the basket shipped with struts would require a 
larger box, than sans struts.




On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 10:54:45 AM UTC-8 edwardb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Todd, you can purchase any basket and remove the hardware yourself. I did 
> that with my 139 with a screwdriver and a small pair of pliers. Sometimes 
> the basket sans hardware can be difficult to find. 
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:39 AM Todd G  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a Wald 137 basket, specifically the model with no hardware as 
>> it will be secured to a Nitto rack. 
>>
>> If you have one to part with please send me a message, or reply here. 
>>
>> Thanks!
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[RBW] WTB: Wald 137 basket w/o hardware

[Todd G]

Looking for a Wald 137 basket, specifically the model with no hardware as 
it will be secured to a Nitto rack. 

If you have one to part with please send me a message, or reply here. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Thanks for the recommendations everyone. I thought about modifying the 
fender to get that extra space, but would rather spend money to fix the 
problem, hahaha! Joking aside I’d definitely prefer to just run parts that 
work well for the job at hand. If that means swapping stuff out, then so be 
it.

I’ll definitely look into the derailleurs mentioned above. With that said, 
if anyone has a derailleur laying around let me know. I wouldn’t have a 
strong preference to one over the next, however if one pops up that’s clamp 
on vs. a braze on, I’d prefer to go that route, but not a deal breaker if I 
need to get an adapter.

@ Kai, based on those photos you’d be absolutely right, but there’s about 
5-6mm of space between the chainring and the chainstay. It’s just the angle 
of the photo that makes it look like it hates the chainstay!

@ Peter, if nothing pops up here I’ll give you a ring!

Also, sorry for the long winded post above. I wanted to provide info in 
hopes that maybe this can help someone with a similar issue down the line.





On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:54:38 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:

> I agree with Kai.
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> I don't know if there's a front derailleur to fix the clearance issue, 
>> but looking at your photo from above, it looks like you need some more 
>> clearance between your big ring and your chainstay. 
>> A wider bottom bracket would fix everything, I think?
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 2:34:16 AM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcXaA>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>>
>>>> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Link to photos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcXaA>

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 11:29:37 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Link to images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ft4S7XXqfUA9bcX

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[RBW] Re: ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

Continuation from above...

With that said, can anyone recommend a nice 9-speed triple front derailleur 
that doesn’t require as much space for the arm to actuate? I think that if 
I were to replace the derailleur with a derailleur that doesn’t require as 
much real estate, this would possibly solve all issues. Then I could run a 
smaller spacer at the chain stay bridge and get much better clearance 
between the bolt and rear tire.

Thanks for reading this far! Hope that made sense to someone other than 
myself.



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[RBW] ISO/Recommendation: help me select a 9-speed triple front derailleur

[Todd G]

I’m looking for a recommendation for a clamp on 9-speed triple front 
derailleur for a Toyo built Atlantis. I’m currently running an old 9-speed 
LX front derailleur that shifts beautifully. I recently purchased some VO 
fenders and got them installed pretty easily. The only issue that I’m 
having is that while shifting, the long/tall arm of the front derailleur 
wants to move into the front fender as I shift into the small ring. 

To help remedy the situation, I swapped out the stock derailleur cable 
clamp bolt and washer for low profile Panhead screw, which got me a little 
real estate (image #1). In conjunction with the clamp bolt, I shimmed out 
the bottom of the fender at the chain stay bridge with an 11mm alloy spacer 
and a leather washer on either side to help push it away from the 
derailleur arm (image #3). This set up works in the stand, and the fender 
line is pretty good. With that said, my main concern at this point is that 
I’ve now pushed the bottom of the fender closer to the rear wheel. At the 
chain stay bridge, I used a stainless M5 bolt, but want to replace this 
with a low profile Panhead bolt as well, as there isn’t much space between 
the bolt head and the tire. “Not much space” translates to about 3-4mm or 
so, which it too close for my taste. So, if I were to install a Panhead 
bolt at the chain stay bridge I could probably call it good. So yeah, this 
setup will work as is, but I feel like I can get the rear set up pretty 
close to perfect if I were to just swap out the derailleur. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Funky Monkey or Rene Herse front brake cable hanger

[Todd G]

Thanks for all the replies, I’ve found what I needed!

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 10:19:57 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Looking for either of these front cable hangers:
>
>- *Funky Monkey* - I’m looking for 1" / 25.4, silver or polished
>- *Rene Herse -* I’m looking for the slotted steerer version with the 
>barrel adjuster
>
> Please reach out if you can help me out with either of the options above.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] WTB: Paul Funky Monkey or Rene Herse front brake cable hanger

[Todd G]

Looking for either of these front cable hangers:

   - *Funky Monkey* - I’m looking for 1" / 25.4, silver or polished
   - *Rene Herse -* I’m looking for the slotted steerer version with the 
   barrel adjuster

Please reach out if you can help me out with either of the options above.

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Paul Components 22.2 Funky Monkey for your 1" Funky Monkey

[Todd G]

Also, if anyone is sitting on a 1" in silver Funky Monkey that you would 
part with give me a holler. Thanks!

On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 2:30:18 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> So, for some reason I ordered a 22.2 Paul Components Funky Monkey in 
> silver, when I should have ordered the 1" version.
>
> Instead of returning it, does anybody have a front 1" in silver to trade? 
> The one I have for trade/sale was mounted on a quill stem and removed 
> almost immediately, and didn’t even run a cable through it. I could also 
> sell it if anyone is looking to purchase one in the near future. 
>
> Please reach out offline to arrange trade or sale.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] WTT: My Paul Components 22.2 Funky Monkey for your 1" Funky Monkey

[Todd G]

So, for some reason I ordered a 22.2 Paul Components Funky Monkey in 
silver, when I should have ordered the 1" version.

Instead of returning it, does anybody have a front 1" in silver to trade? 
The one I have for trade/sale was mounted on a quill stem and removed 
almost immediately, and didn’t even run a cable through it. I could also 
sell it if anyone is looking to purchase one in the near future. 

Please reach out offline to arrange trade or sale.

Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto 34F BIg Front Rack

[Todd G]

Hi all, looking to buy a Nitto 34F Big Font Rack.

If you have one in decent shape that you’d consider parting with please let 
me know.

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Campee rear rack, Nitto stem, and Nexus 7 wheelset

[Todd G]

Message sent for the stem, thanks!

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 11:59:24 AM UTC-7 Pedro wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> A couple of pull-off parts from a Quickbeam I bought off the list a while 
> ago. Located in Washington, DC. Happy to provide some discounts for local 
> purchases. Pictures are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VBxXAXk2iCaV6a3y9
>
> 1. Nitto Campee Rear Rack - old 32R (?) - $160 + shipping: A few dings 
> here and there, but it's ready for new adventures. 
>
> 2. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem 90mm length and 26.0 clamp - $35 + shipping: 
> Has some insertion markings, but in solid shape. Maximum insertion is 
> 110mm. 
>
> 3. Rear Wheel - Mavic Open Pro rim with a Shimano Nexus 7 Internal Gear 
> Hub SG-7R46 - $75 + shipping: Since it is a pull-off, I am not sure how 
> many miles it's got on it, but shifts smoothly. Includes the trigger 
> shifter (ST-7S20). Spacing is 130mm. Prefer a local sale due to the weight 
> + size, but happy to ship at buyer’s expense. Pair it with the front wheel 
> for $100 total. 
> 4. Front Wheel - 32H Suzue hub on an Araya rim - $50 + shipping:  
> Original from a Quickbeam. Pair it with the rear wheel for $100 total. 
>
> Pedro
> Washington, DC
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

I specified in the first post, but looking for a 26mm clamp.


On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:17:54 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Bumping this thread again. After running a 100mm for a month or so, I 
> think I’d like to try a 90mm Technomic Deluxe. 
>
> If you’ve got one that you’d like to move along please message offline. 
> FWIW, every now and then Gmail sends group messages to the spam folder, so 
> if I don’t respond within a day or so, don’t hesitate to shoot me another 
> message or reply here. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 11:34:48 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Call it $40 USD plus shipping 
>>
>> peter stock
>> toronto canada
>>
>> On Sun., Aug. 21, 2022, 2:30 p.m. Peter Stock,  wrote:
>>
>>> In fact my 80mm Technomic stem is stamped  26.0.
>>> My error.
>>> Does this help?
>>>
>>> peter stock
>>> toronto canada
>>>
>>> On Fri., Aug. 19, 2022, 8:21 p.m. James,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested!  I can always use a shim to fit a 25.4, but can't move 
>>>> up from 25.4 to 26
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i've got an 80mm. but I have it catalogued as 25.4
>>>>> if it's interesting, I'll double check that clamp diam tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Stock
>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:52 PM James  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lotta stems floating around here and it seems like OP got their 
>>>>>> needs met.  I'll try my luck for a tallux, 80mm with a 26mm clamp.  PM 
>>>>>> me 
>>>>>> if you've got one you want to sell
>>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:04:33 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone, I was able to source a 100mmm stem locally. Thus far, 
>>>>>>> the 100 feels good so I think that I’ll run it for now. If I need to go 
>>>>>>> shorter I’ll bump this thread. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all of the offers, what a great group!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a Technomic in 80 length. maybe too short.
>>>>>>>> but I have it listed as having a 25.4 clamp diameter. But I could 
>>>>>>>> check that.
>>>>>>>> let me know if you are set or if an 80 could help.
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>> Peter Stock
>>>>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM Todd G  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a 
>>>>>>>>> little bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide 
>>>>>>>>>> you want a bit more reach. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> 26mm clamp. Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in 
>>>>>>>>>>> nice shape. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Also open to a 90mm Pearl. I don’t necessarily need the longer quill of the 
Technomics, so If you have a Pearl that would work out just fine. 

On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 2:17:54 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Bumping this thread again. After running a 100mm for a month or so, I 
> think I’d like to try a 90mm Technomic Deluxe. 
>
> If you’ve got one that you’d like to move along please message offline. 
> FWIW, every now and then Gmail sends group messages to the spam folder, so 
> if I don’t respond within a day or so, don’t hesitate to shoot me another 
> message or reply here. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 11:34:48 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Call it $40 USD plus shipping 
>>
>> peter stock
>> toronto canada
>>
>> On Sun., Aug. 21, 2022, 2:30 p.m. Peter Stock,  wrote:
>>
>>> In fact my 80mm Technomic stem is stamped  26.0.
>>> My error.
>>> Does this help?
>>>
>>> peter stock
>>> toronto canada
>>>
>>> On Fri., Aug. 19, 2022, 8:21 p.m. James,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am interested!  I can always use a shim to fit a 25.4, but can't move 
>>>> up from 25.4 to 26
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i've got an 80mm. but I have it catalogued as 25.4
>>>>> if it's interesting, I'll double check that clamp diam tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Stock
>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:52 PM James  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lotta stems floating around here and it seems like OP got their 
>>>>>> needs met.  I'll try my luck for a tallux, 80mm with a 26mm clamp.  PM 
>>>>>> me 
>>>>>> if you've got one you want to sell
>>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:04:33 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone, I was able to source a 100mmm stem locally. Thus far, 
>>>>>>> the 100 feels good so I think that I’ll run it for now. If I need to go 
>>>>>>> shorter I’ll bump this thread. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all of the offers, what a great group!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a Technomic in 80 length. maybe too short.
>>>>>>>> but I have it listed as having a 25.4 clamp diameter. But I could 
>>>>>>>> check that.
>>>>>>>> let me know if you are set or if an 80 could help.
>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>> Peter Stock
>>>>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM Todd G  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a 
>>>>>>>>> little bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide 
>>>>>>>>>> you want a bit more reach. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 
>>>>>>>>>>> 26mm clamp. Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in 
>>>>>>>>>>> nice shape. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Bumping this thread again. After running a 100mm for a month or so, I think 
I’d like to try a 90mm Technomic Deluxe. 

If you’ve got one that you’d like to move along please message offline. 
FWIW, every now and then Gmail sends group messages to the spam folder, so 
if I don’t respond within a day or so, don’t hesitate to shoot me another 
message or reply here. Thanks!

On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 11:34:48 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> Call it $40 USD plus shipping 
>
> peter stock
> toronto canada
>
> On Sun., Aug. 21, 2022, 2:30 p.m. Peter Stock,  wrote:
>
>> In fact my 80mm Technomic stem is stamped  26.0.
>> My error.
>> Does this help?
>>
>> peter stock
>> toronto canada
>>
>> On Fri., Aug. 19, 2022, 8:21 p.m. James,  wrote:
>>
>>> I am interested!  I can always use a shim to fit a 25.4, but can't move 
>>> up from 25.4 to 26
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> i've got an 80mm. but I have it catalogued as 25.4
>>>> if it's interesting, I'll double check that clamp diam tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Stock
>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:52 PM James  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A lotta stems floating around here and it seems like OP got their 
>>>>> needs met.  I'll try my luck for a tallux, 80mm with a 26mm clamp.  PM me 
>>>>> if you've got one you want to sell
>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 4:04:33 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone, I was able to source a 100mmm stem locally. Thus far, 
>>>>>> the 100 feels good so I think that I’ll run it for now. If I need to go 
>>>>>> shorter I’ll bump this thread. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for all of the offers, what a great group!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Technomic in 80 length. maybe too short.
>>>>>>> but I have it listed as having a 25.4 clamp diameter. But I could 
>>>>>>> check that.
>>>>>>> let me know if you are set or if an 80 could help.
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> Peter Stock
>>>>>>> Toronto, Canada
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM Todd G  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a 
>>>>>>>> little bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide you 
>>>>>>>>> want a bit more reach. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 26mm 
>>>>>>>>>> clamp. Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in nice 
>>>>>>>>>> shape. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Hi everyone, I was able to source a 100mmm stem locally. Thus far, the 100 
feels good so I think that I’ll run it for now. If I need to go shorter 
I’ll bump this thread. 

Thanks for all of the offers, what a great group!

Todd

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:53:25 AM UTC-7 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a Technomic in 80 length. maybe too short.
> but I have it listed as having a 25.4 clamp diameter. But I could check 
> that.
> let me know if you are set or if an 80 could help.
> Peter
> Peter Stock
> Toronto, Canada
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM Todd G  wrote:
>
>> Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a little 
>> bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide you want 
>>> a bit more reach. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 26mm 
>>>> clamp. Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in nice shape. 
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Hi Seth, thanks for the offer! I’m wanting to bring the reach in a little 
bit, so I’m looking for a 90 or 100 Deluxe at this point. GLWS!

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:45:55 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:

> I have a 120mm still in the package and unopened if you decide you want a 
> bit more reach. 
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 1:54 PM Todd G  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 26mm clamp. 
>> Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in nice shape. 
>>
>> Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] WTB/ISO: Nitto Technomic Deluxe

[Todd G]

Looking for a 90 or 100mm Technomic Deluxe or NP stem with a 26mm clamp. 
Doesn’t need to be pristine, but does need to be in nice shape. 

Please let me know if you have one or both to part with, Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Sam Hillborne frameset

[Todd G]

The Hillborne has been sold

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:04:26 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> Good to know, Minh, thanks for the insight.
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 12:45:00 PM UTC-7 Minh wrote:
>
>> i had to do a double take as i sold an orange one like this with an 
>> identical leather top tube protector a few weeks ago, but AFAIK my old one 
>> is still on the east coast.  
>>
>> can confirm that mine was from velo orange and this one looks very similar
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Dustin! 
>>>
>>> It was already on the bike when I received it a few years back. It’s 
>>> made of thick leather and I believe it to be from Velo Orange. I could be 
>>> wrong though. I’ve come close to removing it a few times, but it adds some 
>>> functional personality to the bike, so I’ve just left it.
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:16 AM UTC-7 Dustin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great looking Sam!  What are you using as a top tube protector?
>>>>
>>>> D
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:14:01 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an orange Sam Hillborne frame/fork/headset for sale. This is a 
>>>>> 57cm from 2009 requiring a 27.2 seat post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overall the bike is in great shape. No rust, dents, dings or anything 
>>>>> of the sort. Usual wear associated with a bike that gets ridden, but 
>>>>> nothing specific to speak of. Pretty nice clearances for larger tires on 
>>>>> this model. 90% of the time I’ve owned the bike I ran Compass Snoqualmie 
>>>>> Pass tires under SKS P50 fenders. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 91.5 PBH and the saddle height in the photos is 79.5. The 
>>>>> bike is still built up, so I provided a few pics of various set-ups over 
>>>>> the years. If you’d like to see a closeup of something specific, just 
>>>>> reach 
>>>>> out off list and I’ll provide as many photos as you need. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d like to avoid shipping if possible, and would like to try for a 
>>>>> local(ish) sale in Sacramento, CA. But, if we have to ship, we can work 
>>>>> that out. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Asking $1100 + shipping via Paypal (buyer covers any PP fees please)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_8478.jpg][image: IMG_7328.jpg][image: IMG_4107.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Sam Hillborne frameset

[Todd G]

Good to know, Minh, thanks for the insight.

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 12:45:00 PM UTC-7 Minh wrote:

> i had to do a double take as i sold an orange one like this with an 
> identical leather top tube protector a few weeks ago, but AFAIK my old one 
> is still on the east coast.  
>
> can confirm that mine was from velo orange and this one looks very similar
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Dustin! 
>>
>> It was already on the bike when I received it a few years back. It’s made 
>> of thick leather and I believe it to be from Velo Orange. I could be wrong 
>> though. I’ve come close to removing it a few times, but it adds some 
>> functional personality to the bike, so I’ve just left it.
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:16 AM UTC-7 Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> Great looking Sam!  What are you using as a top tube protector?
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:14:01 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, 

 I have an orange Sam Hillborne frame/fork/headset for sale. This is a 
 57cm from 2009 requiring a 27.2 seat post.

 Overall the bike is in great shape. No rust, dents, dings or anything 
 of the sort. Usual wear associated with a bike that gets ridden, but 
 nothing specific to speak of. Pretty nice clearances for larger tires on 
 this model. 90% of the time I’ve owned the bike I ran Compass Snoqualmie 
 Pass tires under SKS P50 fenders. 

 I have a 91.5 PBH and the saddle height in the photos is 79.5. The bike 
 is still built up, so I provided a few pics of various set-ups over the 
 years. If you’d like to see a closeup of something specific, just reach 
 out 
 off list and I’ll provide as many photos as you need. 

 I’d like to avoid shipping if possible, and would like to try for a 
 local(ish) sale in Sacramento, CA. But, if we have to ship, we can work 
 that out. 

 Asking $1100 + shipping via Paypal (buyer covers any PP fees please)

 Thanks!

 [image: IMG_8478.jpg][image: IMG_7328.jpg][image: IMG_4107.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Sam Hillborne frameset

[Todd G]

Thanks, Dustin! 

It was already on the bike when I received it a few years back. It’s made 
of thick leather and I believe it to be from Velo Orange. I could be wrong 
though. I’ve come close to removing it a few times, but it adds some 
functional personality to the bike, so I’ve just left it.
On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:16 AM UTC-7 Dustin wrote:

> Great looking Sam!  What are you using as a top tube protector?
>
> D
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:14:01 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>>
>> I have an orange Sam Hillborne frame/fork/headset for sale. This is a 
>> 57cm from 2009 requiring a 27.2 seat post.
>>
>> Overall the bike is in great shape. No rust, dents, dings or anything of 
>> the sort. Usual wear associated with a bike that gets ridden, but nothing 
>> specific to speak of. Pretty nice clearances for larger tires on this 
>> model. 90% of the time I’ve owned the bike I ran Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
>> tires under SKS P50 fenders. 
>>
>> I have a 91.5 PBH and the saddle height in the photos is 79.5. The bike 
>> is still built up, so I provided a few pics of various set-ups over the 
>> years. If you’d like to see a closeup of something specific, just reach out 
>> off list and I’ll provide as many photos as you need. 
>>
>> I’d like to avoid shipping if possible, and would like to try for a 
>> local(ish) sale in Sacramento, CA. But, if we have to ship, we can work 
>> that out. 
>>
>> Asking $1100 + shipping via Paypal (buyer covers any PP fees please)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [image: IMG_8478.jpg][image: IMG_7328.jpg][image: IMG_4107.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

The search is still on for a few items.

- Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, heat treated are strongly preferred
- Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
Albatross bars)
- Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2

Thanks!

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 3:23:32 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> BUMP!
>  
> Still looking for a few items. 
>
> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, heat treated are preferred
>
> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
> Albatross bars)
> - Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 5:29:19 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>
>> BUMP!
>>  
>> Still ooking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>>
>> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
>> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
>> Albatross bars)
>> - Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2
>>
>> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 5:17:49 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW: The Soma Oxford is a good substitute for the Albatross. I got one 
>>> when Riv was sold out of their Albatross.  Nearly the exact same shape, 
>>> takes bar ends. The only difference that I can tell is the rise is slightly 
>>> less and the finish isn't quite as nice. Only $80 new, got to like that. 
>>> Unfortunately only in black today, I wasn't able to add the silver to the 
>>> basket.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-handlebar-oxford-2768?category=782
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shifters have been sourced, thanks Lance! Still looking for the rest. 
>>>>
>>>> The heat treated Albatross bars, (or Nitto B352) and maybe some cork 
>>>> grips would be the next items at the top of my want/need list.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:42:46 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>>>>>
>>>>> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
>>>>> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with 
>>>>> the Albatross bars)
>>>>> - Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
>>>>> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Production year of my Sam Hillborne?

[Todd G]

I also have a Hillborne where the first few characters are M905. By no 
means am I a Riv historian, but based on what I’ve heard, these partial 
serials align with what I’ve learned of their dating practices.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:21:21 PM UTC-7 steve wrote:

> My first numbers of my serial are M13 and I got mine in 2013. 
>
> Steve
>
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 3:19:50 PM UTC-4 steve wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>> I think you are reading it correctly.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone -- I'd like to know the production year of my Hillborne. 
>>> Cantilever posts, no cream headtube, made at Maxway. Hopeful some Riv 
>>> historians might now what year this was made. 
>>>
>>> The first few characters of the serial are M905, I think that might mean 
>>> 2009 / 05 or May 2009. 
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-04-12 at 1.16.51 PM.png]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

BUMP!
 
Still looking for a few items. 

- Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, heat treated are preferred
- Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
Albatross bars)
- Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2

Thanks!


On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 5:29:19 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> BUMP!
>  
> Still ooking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>
> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
> Albatross bars)
> - Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2
>
> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 5:17:49 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> FWIW: The Soma Oxford is a good substitute for the Albatross. I got one 
>> when Riv was sold out of their Albatross.  Nearly the exact same shape, 
>> takes bar ends. The only difference that I can tell is the rise is slightly 
>> less and the finish isn't quite as nice. Only $80 new, got to like that. 
>> Unfortunately only in black today, I wasn't able to add the silver to the 
>> basket.
>>
>>
>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-handlebar-oxford-2768?category=782
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shifters have been sourced, thanks Lance! Still looking for the rest. 
>>>
>>> The heat treated Albatross bars, (or Nitto B352) and maybe some cork 
>>> grips would be the next items at the top of my want/need list.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:42:46 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>>>>
>>>> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
>>>> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with 
>>>> the Albatross bars)
>>>> - Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
>>>> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>>>>
>>>> If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

BUMP!
 
Still ooking for a few items for a couple different builds. 

- Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
- Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
Albatross bars)
- Paul Thumbies, silver, 22.2
- Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished

Thanks!



On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 5:17:49 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> FWIW: The Soma Oxford is a good substitute for the Albatross. I got one 
> when Riv was sold out of their Albatross.  Nearly the exact same shape, 
> takes bar ends. The only difference that I can tell is the rise is slightly 
> less and the finish isn't quite as nice. Only $80 new, got to like that. 
> Unfortunately only in black today, I wasn't able to add the silver to the 
> basket.
>
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-handlebar-oxford-2768?category=782
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 4:39:03 PM UTC-4 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Shifters have been sourced, thanks Lance! Still looking for the rest. 
>>
>> The heat treated Albatross bars, (or Nitto B352) and maybe some cork 
>> grips would be the next items at the top of my want/need list.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:42:46 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>>>
>>> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
>>> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with 
>>> the Albatross bars)
>>> - Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
>>> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>>>
>>> If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Todd G]

Beautiful Atlantis and beautiful shot, Vern. Prior to reading, I thought 
that looked like the North Beach. Hoping to make it out there myself within 
the next couple of weeks. 

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:55:50 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is a photo from a recent weekend trip I took to the Pt Reyes 
> lighthouse.[image: IMG_3756 (1).JPG] 
> Hope y'all enjoy!
> Vern
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 9:48:52 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Haha, good one Andy. This hue has been a desire since I saw Dave riding a 
>> Masi in said hue on the big screen way back yonder. Not creamsicle but 
>> burnt Appaloosa orange, Rambouillet's are the bees knees :)
>>
>> I'm unsure a Onyx hub is in my future? 
>>
>> Seems you have some (less than ideal) experience with the xtr rear 
>> mechanical? 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022, 5:00 AM ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>>> Nice hue, Hugh! That's an Atlantis advertising genetics it shares with 
>>> an early stablemate in that color. Not creamsicle, but it doesn't take much 
>>> to conjure Rambouillet.
>>>
>>> Nice build, I'm sure eager for your impressions of the Onyx hubs, 
>>> especially after you've ridden some miles and several sets of tires. I love 
>>> the good news of parts that are really worthy and hope those live up to 
>>> your feelings for your XTR RD. 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 1:12:38 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Morning Bill,

 And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to 
 build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty 
 quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver 
 and 
 helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.

 Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and 
 particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the 
 noodle 
 and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.

 I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors 
 of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  
 But 
 it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides 
 completely different from my road Atlantis.

 Cheers!

 Hugh 


 On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  
 wrote:

> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the 
> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It 
> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would 
> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon!
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Howdy Atlantis Folks,

 Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
 Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
 MUP 
 today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
 sure the 
 Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

 https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham 
 wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
> Atlantis. 
> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
> like 
> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

Shifters have been sourced, thanks Lance! Still looking for the rest. 

The heat treated Albatross bars, (or Nitto B352) and maybe some cork grips 
would be the next items at the top of my want/need list.

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:42:46 PM UTC-8 Todd G wrote:

> Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 
>
> - Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
> - Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
> Albatross bars)
> - Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
> - Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished
>
> If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!
>
>

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[RBW] ISO/WTB: Albatross bars, DA barend shifters, Simworks stem...

[Todd G]

Looking for a few items for a couple different builds. 

- Nitto /Rivendell Albatross bars, preferably heat treated
- Nitto Technonomic quill stem, 120mm (planning on pairing these with the 
Albatross bars)
- Dura Ace 9 speed bar-end shifters
- Sim Works Rhonda stem, 100mm, polished

If you have any of this stuff shoot me an message, thanks!

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Re: [RBW] A Hunq

[Todd G]

Thanks, for the info Nikko! I have a PBH of 90-91 cm, and just waiting for 
one to come along in my size! These are my favorite Rivs to date, and green 
to boot! I have a Sam in the stable, but really need to add one of these. 

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 12:35:19 PM UTC-8 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Thanks! 
>
> PBH is ~86-87cm
> Saddle Height in the photo is probably closer to 75cm. My suggested saddle 
> height from fits is ~75.5cm-76cm for my more spirited bikes. 
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 12:31:24 PM UTC-8 phoen...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Very nice! Out of curiosity, do you know your PBH? And, whats your saddle 
>> height in the photo? `
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 8:44:39 AM UTC-8 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This is a dream bike of mine. Nicely done.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 7:35:12 AM UTC-7 oli.c...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  id love a hunq one day. You have built this one really nicely :) 

 On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:44 AM Nikko in Oakland  
 wrote:

> Just wanted to share the only bike I think will be in my stable for 
> ever. It's a 54cm Hunq. I'm pretty sure it's Taiwan made, since it 
> doesn't 
> have Waterford etched into the drop out. I've been working on this bike 
> for 
> 18 months to get it here, and I'm finally happy with where I've landed. 
> The 
> only immediate changes might be... changing the 'tross bars to Billie 
> bars. 
> It's also set up for quick swaps in case I want to use Bullmoose bars 
> that 
> day. 
>
> Enjoy. Happy to answer questions. 
>
> [image: IMG_4909.jpeg]
>
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Re: [RBW] A Hunq

[Todd G]

Very nice! Out of curiosity, do you know your PBH? And, whats your saddle 
height in the photo? `


On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 8:44:39 AM UTC-8 nus...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is a dream bike of mine. Nicely done.
>
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 7:35:12 AM UTC-7 oli.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>  id love a hunq one day. You have built this one really nicely :) 
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 12:44 AM Nikko in Oakland  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to share the only bike I think will be in my stable for 
>>> ever. It's a 54cm Hunq. I'm pretty sure it's Taiwan made, since it doesn't 
>>> have Waterford etched into the drop out. I've been working on this bike for 
>>> 18 months to get it here, and I'm finally happy with where I've landed. The 
>>> only immediate changes might be... changing the 'tross bars to Billie bars. 
>>> It's also set up for quick swaps in case I want to use Bullmoose bars that 
>>> day. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy. Happy to answer questions. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4909.jpeg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS 2017 Bantam Adventure Bike

[Todd G]

Well this shouldn’t last long! As a another owner of a Bantam, and having 
personally purchased parts from Hugh, I couldn’t recommend either any 
higher. 

GLWS!
On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> As someone who owns one of the siblings to this bike, I can attest to the 
> fantastic-ness of the AdventureBike, as well as the killer deal Hugh is 
> offering. The racks alone are a major upgrade to the basic model, not to 
> mention the rest of the build.
> If I didn't already have one I'd be all over this.
> Mike M
>
> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 12:28:44 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> *Bantam Adventure Bike*
>>
>>  
>>
>> 2017 650b medium adventure bike
>>
>> Measurements:
>>
>> Seat Tube C BB to Top of Seat collar ~47cm
>>
>> Seat tube angle 72º 
>>
>> Top Tube C Head tube to C Seat Tube ~56cm
>>
>> Effective To Tube ~56cm
>>
>> BB height~270mm
>>
>> Chain Stays C to BB to C to Drop Out~45.5cm
>>
>> Rear Drop out spacing 135mm
>>
>> Custom stem 7cm
>>
>> Custom color matched front rack and detachable pannier mounts w/ light 
>> mount.
>>
>> Dynamo Light internal wire routing.
>>
>> Fork: Has multiple water bottle mounts.
>>
>> Main Triangle has water bottle bosses for custom frame bag and or water 
>> bottle cages.
>>
>> Bike comes with Alpine Luddites frame bag.Bag has two compartments with 
>> Velcro divider and water port. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Build:
>>
>> Wheels: DTSwiss XM551 disc rims Rim Width (External): 44 mm Rim Width 
>> (Internal): 40 mm
>>
>> Rear Hub: White Industries M15 anodized red, Front Hub: PD-8 QR 6-Bolt 
>> Dynamo Hub, anodized red.
>>
>> Rotors: Shimano SM-RT86-M front & rear 180mm
>>
>> Spokes: DTSwiss dbl butted silver, Nipples DTSwiss Brass/silver 
>>
>> Paul Components Stainless Quick Release Skewers 
>>
>> Tires: Schwalbe G1 2.8” tubeless. Will include a set of used Rocket Ron’s
>>
>> Cassette 11 speed Shimano XT CS-M8000 11-46 tooth 
>> (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-37-46)
>>
>> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 11 speed XT Long Cage (SGS) 
>>
>> Chain: Shimano CN-HG701 XT/Ultegra Chain 116 Links, 11 Speed w/Quick Link 
>> (Silver)
>>
>> Brake Levers: Shimano XTR BLM988 (take off a 2014 Santa Cruz Tall Boy)
>>
>> Shimano SL-M8000 XT Single Shifters Right Only, 11 Speed (Black)
>>
>> Brake Calipers Shimano BR-M985
>>
>> Head Set Cane Creek 110 EC34 Headset   1 1/8" (Red)
>>
>> Shimano BB-MT800 XT HT2 Bottom Bracket *English 68/73mm*
>>
>> Race Face Aeffect Cinch Crank Arms 2017 170mm x 68/73mm (Black)
>>
>> Race Face Direct Mount Cinch Narrow Wide Chainring 28 Tooth x Direct 
>> Mount (Black)
>>
>> Handle Jones H-Bar® Butted Loop Aluminum 660mm
>>
>> Grips: Ergon GC1 Sweptbar BioKork Grips
>>
>> Seat post: Paul Tall & Handsome Seat post 27.2mm x 360mm (Black)
>>
>> Salsa Lip Lock Seatpost Clamp 2019
>>
>>   30.0 mm (Red)
>>
>> WTB Rocket Race 142 Saddle 2019 Black/Red (CroMo Rails)
>>
>> Dynamo Light is not included nor is the Paul Handsome post price includes 
>> a new Dia-Compe GranCompe SeatPost 250mm 27.2mm which will not be inserted. 
>> If you are dead set on the Paul Post we can talk about a price adjustment.
>>
>> Miles: under 700 total. Drive train maybe a couple hundred. Drive has 
>> been freshly cleaned. Bike comes with color matched touch up paint. This 
>> bike was used but not abused, therefore it does have paint knicks which 
>> have been touched up, which the pictures should show. There are no dents or 
>> dings. Buyer pays for shipping. I will personally pack the bike up and ship 
>> it via bike flights in the contiguous United States. There is a scrape on 
>> the Jones bars which I painted. Upon request I will provide close up 
>> pictures of the area if you are a serious buyer. Prior to shipment I will 
>> deflate the tires and may remove the tire sealant.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The brakes as you can see are hydro, the frame was not designed with the 
>> hydro cables in mind, therefore a 3m adhesive zip tie mount has been used. 
>> One fell off as you can see in the non-drive side picture. I have a new set 
>> arriving from Amazon and will have the missing one replaced. Of course if 
>> you buy it you can convert back to a cable actuated disc brake. I 
>> personally liked the stopping power of the hydro brakes. 
>>
>> If I have leaf anything out or you have any questions DM me and I’ll do 
>> my best to answer.
>>
>> Photo Album: https://flic.kr/ps/2mkjA8
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hugh n LA
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto S83 in black

[Todd G]

Hi all, I’m looking for a Nitto S83 in black, 27.2, 300mm in VGC. I only 
have interest in the black version of this post. I’m not sure if these were 
produced in 250mm and 300mm, or just one of the two lengths. It’s probably 
a long shot as I believe these were a pretty limited run, but I figured 
it’s worth a shot.

Feel free to message me offline, or reply to this thread. 

Thanks!

-Todd


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Re: [RBW] B Secula Plus mounting bolt too long!

[Todd G]

Hi Thomas, thanks for the info. That is exactly what I did. I had to go get 
a new cutting wheel for my Dremel, but it worked out just fine. I kept the 
light on the fender, left the nut on the bolt and then cut off around 5mm. 
I cleaned up the trimmed end, loosened the nut all the way to help clean up 
the threads and then tightened it back down. Good as new!

On a side note, I wonder why they don’t just make it so that the lens is 
still secure, but removable. This would allow access to either remove the 
bolt and replace it with a shorter one, or at least just make it so that 
it’s easier to trim down if necessary. Not a deal breaker, but would be 
nice. 

On Saturday, September 11, 2021 at 4:39:22 PM UTC-7 thoma...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey Todd,
>
> I’ve had to do this too, and you’re definitely not barking up the wrong 
> tree by trimming this. I simply threaded a nut all the way on, cut off my 
> desired portion, cleaned things up with a file and then removed the nut to 
> help chase the threads. Good luck!
>
> Thomas in Portland, Oregon
> On Sep 11, 2021, 4:10 PM -0700, Todd G , wrote:
>
>
> Hello all, I recently mounted a Secula Plus taillight to my rear Honjo 
> fender. It seems the mounting bolt is too long and the tire will rub it 
> periodically. I am confident that this bolt is the culprit as it is the 
> longest by far.
>
> I want to trim it down some, but don’t recall if this bolt is removable or 
> not. I also don’t believe that this lens is removable to get to the bolt.
>
> I would like to trim it down without removing the light, and am thinking 
> of getting a little cutting wheel for my Dremel and having at it with the 
> light still attached to the fender. I know I can potentially mess up the 
> threads, but not really sure about other options.
>
> If someone has nice solution to this other than running a smaller tire I’m 
> all ears, thanks!
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[RBW] B Secula Plus mounting bolt too long!

[Todd G]

Hello all, I recently mounted a Secula Plus taillight to my rear Honjo 
fender. It seems the mounting bolt is too long and the tire will rub it 
periodically. I am confident that this bolt is the culprit as it is the 
longest by far.

I want to trim it down some, but don’t recall if this bolt is removable or 
not. I also don’t believe that this lens is removable to get to the bolt.

I would like to trim it down without removing the light, and am thinking of 
getting a little cutting wheel for my Dremel and having at it with the 
light still attached to the fender. I know I can potentially mess up the 
threads, but not really sure about other options.

If someone has nice solution to this other than running a smaller tire I’m 
all ears, thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Where is this?

[Todd G]

CMR is correct. I have family and friends there. It’s a beautiful cemetery 
with great views! 


On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 12:49:22 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:

> I believe that is Mountain View Cemetery in Oakland/Piedmont!
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 9:17:58 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Just came across an old Rivendell video of Betty Foy 
>> . Does anyone know 
>> where this is? I would guess somewhere in East Bay but can't put my finger 
>> on it. 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack stays

[Todd G.]

I will usually mark where I want to cut and put them in a vice, gently of 
course. When I use a vice, I like to wrap them to avoid damaging the 
finish. I only have the portion I want to remove, and then another inch or 
so sticking out so that I don’t have too much leverage working against me. 
You could also lay them on a workbench, however preventing them from moving 
around can be challenging. Grab a hacksaw and make your cut. File (with a 
file) or grind (if you have a bench grinder) the ends to smooth out any 
burrs and call it done. 

Oh yeah, measure twice, cut once.

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 4:22:50 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Whelp, I have this shiny new RBW51 rack with way-long stays and I can't 
> get the search feature here to work so how do I cut these suckers? 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: ...and another orange Hillborne

[Todd G.]

Such a nice Hillborne, it’s hard to look away. Congrats!

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 4:22:02 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:

> To quote another member - Approve!
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:52:53 AM UTC-5 Artaud wrote:
>
>> After lurking for years, I may finally have something to contribute!
>>
>> I bought this frame from Laing (who managed to keep it in amazing 
>> condition) here on the board in August and then promptly... waited for 
>> parts to be back in stock. At least I got to enjoy looking at the pearly 
>> orange quietly catching the sunlight for a few months.
>> [image: IMG_5534.jpg]
>> Inspired by Rob Perks' Ocean Air Ramblers, I went for a mix of Paul and 
>> White Industries parts, with a classic Nitto stem/seatpost combination. The 
>> wheels were built by Riv - the MI5 hubs are probably overkill for the 
>> riding I do, but I like them.
>> [image: IMG_5542.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_5547.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_5548.jpg]
>> After riding moustache, albastache and a variety of flat bars for years, 
>> the Shaka Bars are my first try at drop bars, and I'm sold. The Fabio's 
>> chest is great to carry snacks and small dogs. I have absolutely no use for 
>> the Erlen rack, but it's here for now.
>> [image: IMG_5536.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_5535.jpg]
>> I'm particularly happy with the shiftings I get from Dura Ace / GRX 
>> combination, probably the best I've ever had. After two years of 
>> frustrating friction shifting and an unconvincing attempt to combine an XT 
>> derailleur with a Microshift shifter on another bike, the precision I get 
>> every time I shift on the Hillborne is very satisfying.
>>
>> It's a fun bike, lighter and faster than I anticipated and I can almost 
>> keep up with the electric bikes on the greenway now.
>>
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[RBW] Re: cold weather winter riding tips

[Todd G.]

What to wear is very subjective. With that said, when I start out on a 
ride, if I feel a chill when I start out I’m generally dressed 
appropriately. If I feel cozy and warm right away, I’ve overdressed and am 
going to be looking to shed layers in a few minutes. All in all, be chilly 
for 10 minutes and most likely you’ll be set.

On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 3:49:59 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> I'm carefully preserving my two Patagonia vests (circa 1995?) with 
> Windstopper fronts, stretch fleece backs because I've had such good effect 
> with them in layering over the years. Hard part of good stuff is that when 
> asked about the solution they provide you're always ending your response 
> with ",but they don't make them anymore."
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 9:10:45 PM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> A good thermos and a good vest! If you can find a rain jacket with the 
>> armpit zippers, those are great too.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 6:33:02 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>> As noted in another post above (quoted below), in cold weather, the 
>>> trickiest thing other than fluctuating conditions is heat put out by the 
>>> engine. I find wool layering, from long johns on up, to work well down into 
>>> the 40s while doing a good job of dissipating extra heat. (Rivendell sells 
>>> lots of useful wool goodies.) Colder and or windier, and a vest or jacket 
>>> to break the wind. Something for the head/ears always. On rides of more 
>>> that five or six miles in more extreme cold, feet and hands need special 
>>> attention. Frigid temps with bitter wind make sure you have something like 
>>> Riv's possum neck gaiter to pull over the face.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the most important cold riding accessory is some type of luggage 
>>> on the bike, so that you can take off stuff if you get overheated, and put 
>>> stuff on if you start to get chilly. I'm not a fan of starting out cold 
>>> these days. Much happier warming up while warm, then shedding a layer if 
>>> necessary.m
>>>
>>> From Mark in Beacon to Bryan in 12508 ;^)
>>>
>>> P.S. Didn't google previously keep hidden the email addresses on these 
>>> threads unless you received it via email itself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian wrote:* I'm a little cold right when I start, but warm up pretty 
>>> quick once I start pedaling. That's the sweet spot...if you are not cold 
>>> when you start, you're overdressed and you'll likely overheat and sweat a 
>>> lot, which will make you cold and clammy.  If you never warm up, you're not 
>>> wearing enough and you'll be uncomfortable the whole ride. I know I'm doing 
>>> it right when I'm feeling fairly thermo-regulated on climbs and flats and a 
>>> little chilly on descents and when I'm stopped at a light.*
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20201108_094601979(1).jpg]
>>> Me in my WoolyWarm vest, vintage Pendleton, merino skins (not shown) and 
>>> wool beanie.
>>> (Yikes, the photos post differently as well!)
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I can go as low as the upper teens (if the windchill is not down in 
 single digits) on my work commute with the following items...

 -base layer (top and bottom) that wicks moisture (wool is the best, but 
 I have cheap Costco thermals that work ok)
 -Normal work attire (khakis, button shirt)
 -wool socks and liner gloves
 -insulated leather mittens
 -wool gaiter 
 -thin wool beanie 
 -light wind breaker

 I'm a little cold right when I start, but warm up pretty quick once I 
 start pedaling. That's the sweet spot...if you are not cold when you 
 start, 
 you're overdressed and you'll likely overheat and sweat a lot, which will 
 make you cold and clammy.  If you never warm up, you're not wearing enough 
 and you'll be uncomfortable the whole ride. I know I'm doing it right when 
 I'm feeling fairly thermo-regulated on climbs and flats and a little 
 chilly 
 on descents and when I'm stopped at a light.


 On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:56:19 AM UTC-6 
 br...@onenaturellc.com wrote:

> I'm curious to know what old time riders used to do to ride in sub 40 
> degree f weather. I figure my fellow riv superfans here might have some 
> experiences to share. I'm writing from 12508 zip code. We often get a 
> precious few sunny hours mid-day when the temps slip into mid-thirties in 
> the winter and the heavily salted country roads are for the most part ice 
> free. For the record, I already tried this "zwift" thing and it isn't for 
> me ha ha.
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Todd G.]

Hi all, just wanted to make one more push prior to Riv getting these back 
in stock. Thanks!


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 12:06:40 PM UTC-7 Jeffery S wrote:

> PM sent
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:28:45 AM UTC-6 Todd G. wrote:
>
>> Figured I would give this a little bump since Rivendell should be getting 
>> these back in stock toward the end of the month...or so I’m told. If you’re 
>> contemplating a new project and you’re on the one in, one out plan as I am 
>> currently, reach out and lets talk. Thanks!
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 6:06:20 PM UTC-7 Todd G. wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the heads up! My only real reason for pause is that I 
>>> think I would prefer the cantilever version. Really for no other reason 
>>> than affording myself a little more flexibility in tire size. I mentioned 
>>> in my original post that I want to run a 38, 42 or up to a 44, maybe a 
>>> 48c tire. I’m pretty confident that the 44/48 tire option would be maxing 
>>> out any medium reach caliper. I actually meant to include that most of my 
>>> interest was in a canti version, but it kind of slipped my mind.
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just noticed a Sam on eBay that might meet what your looking for: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-lugged-steel-frame-for-sidepull-centerpull-brakes-56cm/254732548175?hash=item3b4f3e384f:g:DLIAAOSwQSBfckIE
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:17:12 PM UTC-4 Todd G. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
>>>>> enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
>>>>> bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
>>>>> Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not 
>>>>> beyond 
>>>>> waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I 
>>>>> would 
>>>>> test the waters here prior to see what may be available.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
>>>>> black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
>>>>> between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
>>>>> 43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets 
>>>>> talk. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Todd G.]

Figured I would give this a little bump since Rivendell should be getting 
these back in stock toward the end of the month...or so I’m told. If you’re 
contemplating a new project and you’re on the one in, one out plan as I am 
currently, reach out and lets talk. Thanks!
On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 6:06:20 PM UTC-7 Todd G. wrote:

> Thank you for the heads up! My only real reason for pause is that I think 
> I would prefer the cantilever version. Really for no other reason than 
> affording myself a little more flexibility in tire size. I mentioned in my 
> original post that I want to run a 38, 42 or up to a 44, maybe a 48c 
> tire. I’m pretty confident that the 44/48 tire option would be maxing out 
> any medium reach caliper. I actually meant to include that most of my 
> interest was in a canti version, but it kind of slipped my mind.
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Just noticed a Sam on eBay that might meet what your looking for: 
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-lugged-steel-frame-for-sidepull-centerpull-brakes-56cm/254732548175?hash=item3b4f3e384f:g:DLIAAOSwQSBfckIE
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:17:12 PM UTC-4 Todd G. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
>>> enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
>>> bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
>>> Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not beyond 
>>> waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I would 
>>> test the waters here prior to see what may be available.
>>>
>>> I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
>>> black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
>>> between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
>>> 43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.
>>>
>>> If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets 
>>> talk. 
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Todd G.]

Absolutely worth the money. You can easily thread the nipple on a few 
threads with this thing and pretty much eliminate the chance of having to 
fish a nipple out of your rim. Sometimes they come out easy, other times no 
so much.
On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:37:53 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> This reminded me - the EVT (Efficient Velo Tools) Mulfinger Nipple Loading 
> Tool - best $13 I ever spent. Sure beats those wooden toothpicks that I had 
> been using.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 4:31:49 PM UTC-4, Todd G. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> So I’m probably beating the proverbial “dead horse” here, but I don’t 
>> think there is a more valuable skill for one to have than to have the 
>> ability to build and maintain your own wheels. Once you do it few times, it 
>> really starts to make sense. You will begin to see, understand and 
>> recognize all of the subtle, and not so subtle nuances of the art of wheel 
>> building. I really really enjoy it, and at times it really gets me to an 
>> almost meditative state.
>>
>> Invest in the tools you will need. Don’t buy cheap tools either. Stick to 
>> Park, EVT (Efficient Velo Tools), Abbey etc, and you will not be sorry.
>>
>> Enjoy the building process!
>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:14:48 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Wheel building is deeply empowering. 
>>>
>>> First one I did was a simple swap to a new rim - AASHTA. 
>>> (TL;DR = tape the rims together so the holes match and "walk" the hub 
>>> over one spoke set at a time. That kind of demystified the crossing and 
>>> such). 
>>>
>>> First time full-from-scratch build went pretty well - with copious 
>>> reading of Sheldon's writings and the Jobst book. Take breaks when you feel 
>>> the operator tension exceed the spoke tension. 
>>>
>>> I'd say a truing stand is a must-have, as is a good quality spoke 
>>> wrench. Dishing tool... not so much - certainly not a deal breaker as the 
>>> purpose is to keep the rim centered, which you can easily check with a flip.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:25:58 AM UTC-7, Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff 
>>>> that I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a 
>>>> bridge too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to 
>>>> think 
>>>> that I can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam 
>>>> I 
>>>> ride in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>>>>
>>>> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a 
>>>> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once 
>>>> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the 
>>>> odds 
>>>> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>>>>
>>>> Points of view encouraged.
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Todd G.]

So I’m probably beating the proverbial “dead horse” here, but I don’t think 
there is a more valuable skill for one to have than to have the ability to 
build and maintain your own wheels. Once you do it few times, it really 
starts to make sense. You will begin to see, understand and recognize all 
of the subtle, and not so subtle nuances of the art of wheel building. I 
really really enjoy it, and at times it really gets me to an almost 
meditative state.

Invest in the tools you will need. Don’t buy cheap tools either. Stick to 
Park, EVT (Efficient Velo Tools), Abbey etc, and you will not be sorry.

Enjoy the building process!
On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 1:14:48 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Wheel building is deeply empowering. 
>
> First one I did was a simple swap to a new rim - AASHTA. 
> (TL;DR = tape the rims together so the holes match and "walk" the hub over 
> one spoke set at a time. That kind of demystified the crossing and such). 
>
> First time full-from-scratch build went pretty well - with copious reading 
> of Sheldon's writings and the Jobst book. Take breaks when you feel the 
> operator tension exceed the spoke tension. 
>
> I'd say a truing stand is a must-have, as is a good quality spoke wrench. 
> Dishing tool... not so much - certainly not a deal breaker as the purpose 
> is to keep the rim centered, which you can easily check with a flip.
>
> - Jim
>
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:25:58 AM UTC-7, Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that 
>> I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge 
>> too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I 
>> can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride 
>> in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>>
>> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a 
>> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once 
>> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds 
>> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>>
>> Points of view encouraged.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2020 miles in 2020

[Todd G.]

Congratulations, that is a great accomplishment. Thanks for sharing!

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-7 Jim D Massachusetts wrote:

> Nice posts Leah. great incentive to ride. Cannot wait to see photos of the 
> new bike built up.  
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-4 Ann L wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Leah!  That is awesome.  I bet you do 3000 miles next 
>> year once you get your pretty red platypus.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 3:01:39 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At the beginning of 2020 (back when we were so naive and hopeful) I set 
>>> an ambitious goal for myself: 2,020 miles in 2020. This may seem small to 
>>> some of you, but I live out in suburbia, surrounded by punishing 
>>> hills/mountains, and there are few places to go out here. Most trips 
>>> require a car. The one bike commute that gave me 4 miles/day was to the 
>>> boys’ school, but by March, that was gone - replaced by virtual school. 
>>>
>>> Having everyone at home all the time was a blessing and a challenge. I 
>>> started going out in the evenings, looking for places to go by bike to 
>>> clear my mind and wear out my body. I rode down the mountain and began 
>>> exploring the development there. They had thoughtfully put in bike lanes 
>>> and a blacktop bike path, and I discovered that I could make a 10.1 mile 
>>> loop, start to finish. The thing was, I only had my stock Clementine - the 
>>> 2019, super-long model, set up to be a school commuter. Beautiful and 
>>> capable, but heavy. I ordered a new wheelset and dyno lighting from Analog, 
>>> and that really changed the game for me. Lightened up (in weight and 
>>> lumens!), I could venture further from home, regardless of elevation or 
>>> sunlight. I began to rack up miles. 
>>>
>>> I pedaled through a global pandemic. I pedaled through triple digit 
>>> heat. I pedaled through the entire Hamilton soundtrack, memorizing it. I 
>>> pedaled through wildfire smoke and record-breaking temps. I pedaled through 
>>> rain. And wind. When a pulmonary embolism robbed me of my young, handsome, 
>>> healthy dad in July, I pedaled (sometimes sobbing) through that, too. I 
>>> pedaled in Minnesota humidity with my basket full of stuffed animals, my 
>>> tiny niece shadowing me on her little bike. I pedaled through springtime, 
>>> when entire trees exploded in blooms, and I will pedal through fall when 
>>> the leaves are a riot of color. On October 9th, I hit my mileage goal. 
>>>
>>> 2,020 miles in 2020. 
>>>
>>> I’m going to keep pedaling, but I may finish out the year on a raspberry 
>>> Platypus, depending on when the wheelset gets here. Until then, I’ll keep 
>>> using this Clem, stout and dressed as a commuter, as an exercise bike. 
>>> Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t - you can, and you’ll have muscles, to 
>>> boot.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any particular grease cleaner you would recommend!

[Todd G.]

I’ve been using Dumonde Tech for a number of years and like it. I use it 
year round, and it seems to do the job for me. It lasts somewhere around 
150 miles or so before I feel the need to wipe the chain down and re-apply 
the lube. 

Around a year ago, a friend gave me a bottle of Muc Off dry lube. I was a 
little skeptical at first because when I was a kid I used White Lightening 
dry lube, and it was a hot mess. So taking in to consideration I didn’t 
really know what the heck I was doing at that time, I used it. A sit turns 
out I really like the stuff, especially in dusty dry conditions. My entire 
drivetrain stays pretty clean, however I don’t feel like I get very much 
mileage out of a single application. 75 miles or so and I feel like I need 
to wipe down the chain and re-apply.
 
I have some Rock-n-Roll gold that I have had sitting in a cabinet for 
somewhere around 10 years or so. I need to finish the bottle off. I have no 
idea what it was that I heard, but I heard something about the owner of 
Rock-n-Roll that really rubbed me the wrong way. This was at least 10 years 
ago. So, now that I can’t recall what it was that I heard, maybe I’ll get a 
few rides in with it on a clean chain and report back. FOr whatver it’s 
worth, I feel like the Muc Off keeps the drivetrain the cleanest overall.

As far as cleaning, sometimes I use the Sonic Cleaner at work, sometimes I 
remove teh chain and put it into a screw top container filled with warm 
water and a gentle eco-friendly laundry detergent, and shake, shake, shake, 
air dry, or let it bake in the sun until it is completely dry. Those two 
are my best and most favorite methods. Between lubes I run the chain 
through a shop rag for a minute or so, changing to clean spots on the rag, 
then re-apply lube, run t through one more time to remove any excess, and 
I’m ready to ride. 

That’s my routine for the most part. I don’t really deviate from that, and 
I get good mileage out of my drivetrains, so I’m sticking to it!

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks; wasn't aware of the PTFE. And I see just now that ProLink Gold has 
> very good reviews; Ed Pavelka for one. And, it's a known -- to me -- 
> quantity.
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 8:41 AM James / Analog Cycles  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Between Rock n Roll and Prolink, I'd recommend Prolink.  No PTFE.  Read 
>> up on it if you have never done so.  Rock N Roll Gold is just teflon solids 
>> suspended in solvent, more or less.
>>
>> I'd have to look at the sludge that falls off the chain.  The crud you 
>> are trying to get rid of isn't dirt per se, it's the metal filing the chain 
>> produces in the course of use.  Those, when trapped in the rollers, are a 
>> bigger source of chain wear than anything else I can think of.  If there is 
>> no metal in the sludge, it's just a superficial cleaning.  
>>
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Comparing drop bars to uprights: Path Less Pedaled

[Todd G.]

I’ll should be going down this path in the near future. Working on getting 
a used, or new one once they land at Rivendell. For drops I’m planning on 
running 46cm Noodles, and for more “casual” bars something like an 
Albatross. Pretty excited to see how it’s mannerisms change between the two 
cockpit setups. Will do my best to offer a review once I get some time on 
both.

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 2:09:52 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Yeah it's because my "neutral" hand position on drops is quite forward of 
> the end of the stem (something like 12-14 cm) while on the Albaross it'll 
> be actually a bit back from the end of the stem - so even with the 6cm 
> shorter stem, the reach to my "80% position" is quite a bit less still  
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:16 PM dougP  wrote:
>
>> "My Noodle-to-Albatross conversion ratio is a *6cm longer stem* on the 
>> latter (ie 5cm stem for the Noodles and a 11cm stem for the Albatross on my 
>> Sam) "
>>
>> That's interesting.  I did not change the stem when I first put upright 
>> bars on my Atlantis.  The hand position took care of the numbness issue.  
>> The last year or so I've been thinking I needed to be more upright (older 
>> body, not so flexible anymore).  I have a dirt drop on there now, with the 
>> bars an inch or so above where they were with the stock stem at max height 
>> (even with the seat).  Eyeballing it, it looks like the dirt drop also 
>> pulls the bars at least an inch closer.  A longer stem seems 
>> counter-intuitive.  The standard was 100 mm.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Todd G.]

Thank you for the heads up! My only real reason for pause is that I think I 
would prefer the cantilever version. Really for no other reason than 
affording myself a little more flexibility in tire size. I mentioned in my 
original post that I want to run a 38, 42 or up to a 44, maybe a 48c 
tire. I’m pretty confident that the 44/48 tire option would be maxing out 
any medium reach caliper. I actually meant to include that most of my 
interest was in a canti version, but it kind of slipped my mind.

On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Just noticed a Sam on eBay that might meet what your looking for: 
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-lugged-steel-frame-for-sidepull-centerpull-brakes-56cm/254732548175?hash=item3b4f3e384f:g:DLIAAOSwQSBfckIE
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:17:12 PM UTC-4 Todd G. wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
>> enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
>> bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
>> Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not beyond 
>> waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I would 
>> test the waters here prior to see what may be available.
>>
>> I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
>> black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
>> between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
>> 43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.
>>
>> If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets talk. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

[Todd G.]

I’m always adjusting or swapping stuff on a new bike until I get everything 
right where I want it. Sometimes it happens quickly, other times it takes a 
month, 2 months etc to get everything dialed in. I suppose it also depends 
on how much I’m riding and the particular use for the build on the bike.

Either way, your Atlantis looks amazing!

On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 9:27:15 AM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> [image: atlantis.jpg]
>
> So. Very. Excited. Opening the box and putting it together was one of the 
> biggest thrills of my life. Using Mark's little tricks in the videos (using 
> grease/wax on bolts, washers, etc...) was also dorkily fun. Moving parts 
> (bell, rack, mirror, reflectors, etc...) Had a little frustration with 5mm 
> bolts being to small for the rack mounts and 6mm bolts being too big...but 
> as I'm sure you all know, the paint in the threads was keeping the 6 from 
> going in easily. 
>
> My biggest anxiety since placing the order was about the size of the bike. 
> I worried a little that there wouldn't be much of a difference in some 
> aspects of the geometry...my current bike is listed as having a 59cm seat 
> tube, so I figured my steatpost would be jacked up just as high and look 
> stupid. I also worried that maybe the 62cm Atlantis (which has been sold 
> out) would be a better fit. My PBH is just a hair over 93...not quite 93.5. 
> According to the sizing chart, I could ride a 59 or 62 with that PBH. 
> Standing over this bike, I am SO glad I got a 59. Vince said the Atlantis 
> rides a little bigger than it's size indicates, and he was right (of course 
> he was!). 
>
> I am glad I did a full build with Rivendell and let them worry about 
> components. I guess I approved them, but don't know Deore from Altus. The 
> bike just plain hums with everything working together. The only components 
> I would have insisted on had Vince not included them in the first email 
> would have been the cork grips, inboard thumb shifters, and Monarch pedals. 
> I was a little down that the derailer he picked was black...I had always 
> envisioned all shiny metal components. Then when I saw the bike in person I 
> was just a little sad that the QR skewers were also black. But looking at 
> the bike, I love how the derailer, skewers, and trim of the fenders are all 
> black and kind of set off the shinier stuff. It makes sense...and I think 
> I'd choose this kind of color scheme if I had the choice. 
>
> I really like the Choco bar. I have a fake Albatross on my old bike...love 
> the look of it and needed the rise on my too-small old bike (with a dirt 
> drop stem). Choco is perfect and has more hand positions. 
>
> There are only two things that weren't perfect. 
>
> The handlebars did not get taped. I emailed Vince a few days after I paid 
> and asked if it could be added and he got back to me a bit later and sent 
> me an invoice to pay for the tape. I'm not sending the bike back to get the 
> handle bar taped...and I'm too happy about the bike to really care about 
> the six bucks. I was mostly looking forward to having a Mark-twined 
> handlebar...but I did my own tape and twine on my old bike and it looks 
> great. No big deal. 
>
> There is no foot on the Pletscher kick stand...but that might be normal. I 
> know when you buy a stand separately, the foot doesn't come along with it. 
> Maybe I should have mentioned the foot when I placed the order. This one is 
> likely on me.
>
>
> So yeah! Couldn't be happier! Took a nice zippy ride yesterday evening 
> before fussing with the accessories to dial in some preferences and rode it 
> to work for the first time this morning. I've wanted a Riv FOREVER...a 
> college roommate had one...I've read everything I could get my eyes on 
> about the brand, reviews, the website, etc... I knew I'd like it, but I can 
> say without any hesitation now that I totally "get it" now. It's just a 
> bike, but wowWHAT a bike. 
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:36:01 PM UTC-5 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>> Yes, I've seen the pack job! I've watched the video of Mark assembling a 
>> Homer maybe fifteen times now (love the video and the music).
>>
>> Good advice on riding for a while before tinkering. I'll definitely go 
>> that way.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-5 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Ben:
>>>
>>> You've probably seen photos on this forum of the epic packing job that 
>>> Rivendell does.  When I got my Atlantis, I was able to ride it within an 
>>> hour of delivery, and I think the saddle & the pedals were the only things 
>>> I had to install.  Like you, I went with their suggestion on parts & some 
>>> of the originals are still on there.  Ride it out of the box, then start 
>>> tinkering.  I think it took me a couple of weeks to find something to fuss 
>>> with.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 7:04:01 AM UTC-7, Ben Mihovk wrote:

 Got shipping 

[RBW] WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Todd G.]

Hi all,

I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not beyond 
waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I would 
test the waters here prior to see what may be available.

I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.

If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets talk. 

Cheers!



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Re: [RBW] Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[Todd G.]

Beautiful bike, Paul. Looks very well thought out and I’m sure it rides as 
good as it looks. Enjoy!

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:27:43 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Shoot, I thought Joe had thought that little thing up just for me. It's a 
> nice little oddity, but serves no purpose that I can see. 
>
> Speaking of oddities, I had Chauncey braze a wire "L" onto the right 
> seatstay just below the bridge, made I think from an old spoke. This is a 
> chain hook, tho' Joe put an elegant little shelf on the chainstay for this 
> purpose just for'ard of the dropout; but that shelf -- a kind of 
> metalsmith's version of the Columbine hanger  -- doesn't work well, since 
> there is no derailleur to hold the chain taut; the chain just slips off. 
> But the "L" does hold it up out of the sand (no pretty grass verges here) 
> when I have to remove the rear wheel by the side of the road.
>
> I'd guess that the L's upright is about 1/2" long. When he made the 2003 
> Curt replacement (the Curt didn't have that little chainstay lug wing) I 
> asked him to make the upright longer. He did that. It's about 1 1/2" long, 
> comically long. But it does work; you can skewer both runs of chain on it 
> with room to spare. 
>
> Both of these are really hidden from sight behind the seatstay; you have 
> to crane your neck and peer closely to see them.
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:14 PM Paul Brodek  wrote:
>
>> That bb shell w/shelf-wing design isn't uncommon, fwiw, and the one on 
>> Patrick's frame isn't the same shell as the Richard Sachs bb. Richard has 
>> been designing his own lugs for a long time now, but I'm not very familiar 
>> with who his suppliers have been over the years. So I don't know who made 
>> the bb shell in Eric's frame, but it's almost certainly an exclusive Sachs 
>> design.
>>
>> Maxway is a Taiwanese framebuilding company, but I don't think they make 
>> their own lugs. They're the go-to shop in Taiwan for higher-end steel frame 
>> mfr. They made the Kogswells, wouldn't be surprised if that's who Riv is 
>> using for their Taiwan production. The recent Raleigh Team Pro 40th 
>> Anniv/Tribute frameset is made by Maxway.
>>
>> The two better-/best-known lug mfrs in Taiwan are Allotec and Long Shen. 
>> I don't know much about Allotec, but the 40th Anniv Raleigh Team Pro uses 
>> lugs made by Allotec.
>>
>> Long Shen was/is better known, I think, but it seems like they're 
>> closing/closed. Riv said something about "a sister company" taking over 
>> production so they weren't worried. Richard Sachs said he placed a "big m-f 
>> order" with Long Shen when he heard the news. He did not abbreviate "m-f." 
>>
>> Long Shen was making the current Sachs lugs, dropouts and probably other 
>> frame fittings as well, but they were/are Richard's own designs. He owns 
>> the molds/tooling, so potentially he could find someone else to make them, 
>> but he ordered enough to likely last till his last hurrah.
>>
>> Long Shen made lugs for other folks, too, so those folks would have had 
>> to scramble to fine new suppliers. The Pacenti lugs/drops, now owned by 
>> Framebuilder Supply, were from both Long Shen and Allotec. 
>>
>> I _think_ there's still cast lugs being made in Japan. I'm pretty sure 
>> that's where Mark DiNucci gets his lugs/bits made.
>>
>> Many years ago I visited Nikko Lugs in Japan, with Trek's big (in many 
>> senses of the word) buyer Fred Drenhouse (RIP). Fred was so big/tall many 
>> just called him "Big Fred." To me he was Fred De House. Sorry for the 
>> drift. Nikko still seems to be in business, still making lugs, but they're 
>> a bulge-forming company, don't think they do casting. That bb design has to 
>> be cast, can't get that wing with bulge-forming, afaik.
>>
>> Richard Sachs designed some lugs for Grant @ BS USA in the early '90s, 
>> with Grant intending Nikko to make them for the RB series. Don't know if 
>> those ever went into production.
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>>
>>> Not saying they made the frame, just the lug.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 Pretty sure that is an "M" for Maxway.
 I have that same feature on my Maxway single speed frame. I believe 
 that they made some frames for Rivendell at some point, located in Taiwan.

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:48:06 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com 
 wrote:

> There’s a maker whose name starts with “W” (can’t recall the name at 
> the moment) who makes BB shells like that. My Richard Sachs has one:
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:
>
> Hey Patrick,
>
> My frame doesn't have the Little Wing (Well she's walking/thru the 
>