Re: [RBW] Soma sale - Triple crankset $28

[Tom Goodmann]

I also got one; thanks for the heads-up!

Tom

On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 2:28:54 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:

> I went for the 175/46-36-26 for the same reason! I've also been quite 
> happy with the clipped 2x crank.
>
> On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 11:43:08 AM UTC-4 Oliver Moss wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> I grabbed a set last night after I saw this post. I needed a new set of 
>> chainrings and this was less expensive than buying even just the 48t ring 
>> by itself! Fantastic timing. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 6:47:00 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Super tempting, but I already have a NA crankset from the last sale 
>>> ("only" 65% off) sitting on my shelf.
>>>
>>> FYI, these say "XD2" on the back of the arms.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 8:25 PM velomann  wrote:
>>>
 Just got another "Overstock Extreme" email from Soma. Picked up a 
 polished New Albion triple crankset (48/36/26) for $28 + $15 shipping. 

 https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/new-albion-crankset-xdt-touring-48-36-26-10sp-2202?search=xdt&order=name+asc#attr=799,767

 I "think" the deal is only for silver in 170 length. 
 Necessary to enter promo code: *overstockextremept224*
 and finding the place to enter the code is tricky, but I got there. 
 Other deals as well, but I can only see them in my email, not in the 
 "sale" 
 section of their website.

 Mike M

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Re: [RBW] “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Tom Goodmann]

Wonderful story, Leah! Thank you; you’re a very good storyteller, you know.
I never miss visiting that shop when I’m in Kalamazoo.

Tom

On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 2:10 PM JAS  wrote:

> What a great article about Dean and her shop.  She is a positive force in
> the community with her work to improve access to the downtown area and her
> life-long passion for the printed word; a person I would like to meet.
> You're lucky to have found her and I hope you go often to buy her wares.
> Thanks so much for sharing, Leah!
>
> Can you make her an honorary RivSister?
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Saturday, September 28, 2024 at 8:45:27 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>> Simply fantastic!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Rich, that darling woman is almost too good to be a real life person. I
>> found an article about her…She’s even better than I thought!
>> [image: new_1805.jpg]
>>
>> Extra! Extra! Michigan News, area's oldest 'newsstand,' still standing
>> amid changing times
>> 
>> secondwavemedia.com
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> I should ride back to her store and ask her if she’s getting a Platypus
>> yet. She’ll have to wait though, because Riv just pre-sold their entire
>> shipment in under an hour this afternoon!
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2024, at 3:59 PM, R Shannon  wrote:
>>
>> Leah, your story just made my day. What a nice follow up to your
>> appearance in the New Yorker. Congratulations on joining the Famous Friends
>> wall!  The people you meet and the places a bicycle can take you!
>> Note: Dean should be an honorary Riv Sister.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2024, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> I simply have to tell you about my experience buying this issue of The
>> New Yorker. I’d been waiting and waiting to get the print copy and rumor
>> was, it would be in today. I had ridden my mermaid Platy downtown, and
>> after coffee, I  searched for a bookstore. I decided on this place, which I
>> always saw in passing but had never entered:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> I went in, and a woman named Dean, age 77, stood behind the counter.
>>
>> “Do you sell The New Yorker?” I asked.
>>
>> “Yes, of course I do!” she crowed, with more exuberance than I was
>> expecting.
>>
>> I grabbed the magazine, put it on the counter and sheepishly told her, “I
>> want to open it right here and look at it…because I’m in it.”
>>
>> Every synapse in that woman’s brain lit up. “You ARE? WHERE?!” I had 5
>> copies on the counter and she began scanning the article.
>>
>> It is much longer in print than I anticipated and as we combed the text,
>> I struggled to find my tiny part in it. I said something in exasperation
>> and Dean said confidently, “It’s alright; you’re at Michigan News.” She
>> pulled out a monocle.
>>
>> She found my name before I did, grabbed a black pen and she drew a big
>> arrow to my name. I was taken aback that she marked up my magazine, but
>> thought it impolite to say so. Reading my mind she looked me full on with
>> her sharp and sparkling eyes and said, “Now, this is MY copy. I’m going to
>> buy it myself and put on my Famous Friends wall. People love the Famous
>> Friends wall. They even bring their friends to show them when they make it
>> on my wall. It warms my heart.”
>>
>> I said, “I’m going to buy 5 copies of this magazine and gift you this one
>> for your Famous Friends wall.” She lit up like a Christmas tree.
>>
>> “You’ll sign this,” she directed. “Everyone on my Famous Friends wall has
>> to sign.”
>>
>> I explained that I’ve only lived in her fair state for 2 years, took her
>> pen and signed, Leah Peterson, Michigander-In-Training.
>>
>> I handed her my card and she said, “No, I don’t touch the cards. That’s
>> the only way to keep them secure, you see, is if I don’t touch it.” I was
>> starting to get a sense of who this woman is. I looked up and saw - I’m not
>> joking - hand-written lists of bestsellers on the shop walls. Like you’d
>> see at Rivendell Bicycle Works.
>>
>> I looked at her Famous Friends wall. She had local authors and regular
>> people like me, who were mentioned in articles. She was in at least two
>> articles on the wall. It looked like a bulletin board from my elementary
>> school days. I was thoroughly charmed.
>>
>> She went on to tell me, “The New Yorker is my favorite magazine. And do
>> you know that they are the only magazine to pay poets for their poems? They
>> are. It is a tragedy that people are going to the internet to get their
>> news. I make 6% on newspapers. The money is in paperbacks. I make 40% on
>> paperbacks.

Re: [RBW] Fall Photos 2024

[Tom Goodmann]

With apologies for non-fall-photo content, here are some more photos of the 
Goodrich AR/Proto Saluki from its previous 
owner: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sashae/8610508566  
My observant friend from this list in South Florida notes that the Saluki 
has slightly longer chainstays.

Tom, enjoying fall in Vermont

On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 9:44:11 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Funny you mention the Goodrich frame. Just last night I was reading an old 
> reader (#24, I believe) with an in-deth Curt Goodrich interview.
> Gorgeous paint on that steed!
>
> On Sep 23, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:
>
> Hi John. That’s what you might call the Proto-Saluki frame for 650b, made 
> in 2004, I think, by Curt Goodrich. He rode it quite a bit, I believe, 
> before selling it on another board. From that second owner, another South 
> Florida list member and I have owned it in turns for several years. 
> Grant adjusted the geometry for the Saluki a bit, all to the good. IMHO 
> this bike needs—and deserves—a refresh from Joe Bell. Great color, right?
>
> The bars are Salsa Cowchippers.  Can’t say enough about Goodrich frames!
>
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:56 PM John Bokman  wrote:
>
>> Gorgeous frame Tom! Which model is this? What bars are you using?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 7:37:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0197.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Tour de Farms last Sunday, 9/15; 30-mile loop from Shoreham, VT; faint 
>>> tinges of color near Lake Champlain, all coming on strongly a week later 
>>> and higher up.
>>>
>>> (Going to tighten up everything and wrap those bare bars ahead of this 
>>> weekend's Fall Fundo for the Old Spokes Home community bike shop).
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> Colchester, VT
>>> On Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 8:24:53 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was out on the Hillborne today admiring the foliage but failed to get 
>>>> an appropriate photo - however here is one from yesterday's trail ride on 
>>>> my Stooge Scrambler; not a Riv but Andy (owner of Stooge) and Grant have a 
>>>> lot in common in their bike-related worldview and they both come out of 
>>>> Maxway. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20240921_205112852.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday 22 September 2024 at 16:38:15 UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_2879.jpeg]The best time of the year to be on the bike!
>>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 6:09:16 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Fall Y'all! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: picture.JPG]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall Photos 2024

[Tom Goodmann]

Hi John. That’s what you might call the Proto-Saluki frame for 650b, made
in 2004, I think, by Curt Goodrich. He rode it quite a bit, I believe,
before selling it on another board. From that second owner, another South
Florida list member and I have owned it in turns for several years.
Grant adjusted the geometry for the Saluki a bit, all to the good. IMHO
this bike needs—and deserves—a refresh from Joe Bell. Great color, right?

The bars are Salsa Cowchippers.  Can’t say enough about Goodrich frames!

Tom

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:56 PM John Bokman  wrote:

> Gorgeous frame Tom! Which model is this? What bars are you using?
>
> John
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2024 at 7:37:33 AM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_0197.jpeg]
>>
>> Tour de Farms last Sunday, 9/15; 30-mile loop from Shoreham, VT; faint
>> tinges of color near Lake Champlain, all coming on strongly a week later
>> and higher up.
>>
>> (Going to tighten up everything and wrap those bare bars ahead of this
>> weekend's Fall Fundo for the Old Spokes Home community bike shop).
>>
>> Tom
>> Colchester, VT
>> On Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 8:24:53 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I was out on the Hillborne today admiring the foliage but failed to get
>>> an appropriate photo - however here is one from yesterday's trail ride on
>>> my Stooge Scrambler; not a Riv but Andy (owner of Stooge) and Grant have a
>>> lot in common in their bike-related worldview and they both come out of
>>> Maxway.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240921_205112852.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday 22 September 2024 at 16:38:15 UTC-7 larson@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_2879.jpeg]The best time of the year to be on the bike!
>>>> Randy in WI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 22, 2024 at 6:09:16 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Happy Fall Y'all!
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: picture.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>> Bones
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Re: [RBW] Re: “The Art of Taking it Slow” in The New Yorker

[Tom Goodmann]

Just read and relished this article, including the shout-out to Leah, aka 
Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 

May readers will find their way to more happiness aboard these wonderful 
bicycles. 

Thank you, Grant, for what you and all the friendly folk at RBW make and 
do, celebrate and share.

Tom
(happily cycling in Vermont on an AR/Proto-Saluki)

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 3:12:33 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This is a very good article. I am more than willing to deprecate New 
> Yorker articles as dreary "preciousity" -- twee preciousness about 
> trivialities (not all; they often do good in-depth reporting; same opinion 
> about the NYT) -- but Wiener captured the values and the person. As to the 
> person, I can list 25 or 100 things about which I disagree with Grant, but 
> this essay and others before it demonstrate that he stands out because he 
> believes in something because of what that something is and not for any 
> extrinsic reason, andis willing to suffer loss to make and sell that 
> sometthing. Back circa 1998 he said, "We are product-driven, not 
> market-driven," and this phrase defines Rivendell. They believe certain 
> things are good and they make those things without diluting them in order 
> to sell more of them, and be damned to the rest of you.
>
> This expresses a big part of the Rivendell idea:  “So many basic things 
> are being teched out of existence,” Petersen said. He saw this as a 
> function of business incentives: electronics break or need replacement; an 
> upgrade is always around the corner. Petersen’s objections are practical 
> but also philosophical. As bikes become higher-tech, riders lose skills and 
> agency.
>
> I liked this one, too: "There was something romantic about the Rivendells. 
> They made the other bikes on the road look mean."
>
> Bike Snob devoted today's post largely to the New Yorker article. "It’s a 
> proper story, too, and not one of those little thumbnail sketches where 
> they’re subtly mocking the person ..." -- making fun of Streetsblog.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 12:48 PM Andrew Scherer  
> wrote:
>
>> I enjoyed these quotes: 
>>
>>
>> "It was by far the longest, heaviest bicycle I had ever been on, and it 
>> moved with a surprising grace." 
>>
>> "...we crossed into the hills and started up a paved, curving road, 
>> toward the trail. The ground was littered with sardines..."
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 2:30:34 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Also a nice mention of BBDD, and the Platypi which she was too modest to 
>>> mention...and I agree with Leah; it was very well-written.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:49:36 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>>>
 Great read. Sadly I currently have a bad cold & it’s a lovely day. So I 
 am just sitting here - enjoying the veritable bird paradise that is our 
 property, wishing I was riding my bike. Maybe tomorrow.:)
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 16, 2024, at 1:19 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 The writer made such gorgeous language out of it. Favorite quotes:


 “But I felt, instead, a very adult sense of longing—as if I had just 
 glimpsed, at a deeply inconvenient time, a new and appealing way to live.”

 “Rivendell’s employees object to descriptions of the company’s 
 following as cultlike. “The other stuff is the cult,” Keating told me.” 

 “There was something romantic about the Rivendells. They made the other 
 bikes on the road look mean.”

 “The strength and fearlessness of the others filled me with an almost 
 indescribable envy. What was it like to leave for a long ride at dusk—or 
 cycle off into the woods with a sleeping bag, a patch kit, and some 
 groceries—and be reasonably assured you’d have a great night? The world 
 seemed divided between two types of people: those with a command of the 
 physical world, and everyone else. The former had confidence, skill, and 
 know-how; the rest of us had YouTube tutorials on removing anti-theft 
 skewers.”
  
 This was a gorgeous piece of writing that rightly celebrates a 
 brilliant man. I’m so happy for him. I’m sure he hates the attention.
 Leah


 On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 12:24:46 PM UTC-4 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Can confirm the Riv to birding pipeline is real
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-4 ben.r...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> dan!g you beat me to posting this!  its a good read and as a " mid 
>> 30s tattooed skater who rides in cut off dickies and vans" I was a 
>> little 
>> triggered to learn that I'm very "bird watching adjacent". 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4584.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_5005.jpg]
>>
>> Ben "little brother" R
>>
>> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:29:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: 17 years of longing, can you help? The search for a green B17

[Tom Goodmann]

Nice thread: quest expressed, and fulfilled! Peter White to the rescue!

Tom
Burlington, VT

On Tuesday, August 27, 2024 at 10:07:27 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love 2 See It
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 2:31:23 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> @ Phillip, Thanks for chiming in, I'd love to see you add a photo of said 
>> combination. 
>>
>> I wasn't going to spill the beans yet but I actually have an 04 Quickbeam 
>> in transit and was planning the same thing, tho now I'm second guessing 
>> that idea and might shift a black B17 standard over to that build and adorn 
>> my Susie with the new unit.
>>
>> @Peter, Thanks again, order was placed today and I'm so incredibly 
>> joyous. 
>>
>> @Sarah, Much appreciated! I'm over the moon and can't wait to received my 
>> beloved new saddle. It's the little things, right?
>>
>> @Doug, Thank you, I'm glad that I kept the hope alive and everything 
>> worked out. I'll post add an update upon it's arrival.
>>
>> Cheers all!
>>
>> jared
>> SC, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 7:17:37 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Me too Sarah! That is a fantastic looking saddle. Congrats on finding 
>>> this rare model.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 9:30:04 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Somehow it has made my morning to see someone else achieve their saddle 
 dreams! I'm happy for you Jared!

 On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 11:11:02 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Peter, I'll take it!
>
>  Please hold for me, I'll be sending an email now.
>
> jared
>
> On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 7:46:56 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> We have one left in stock. B17 Champion Special Ti in green.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 9:57 PM Philip Williamson <
>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The BRG “Brooks Racing Green” saddle was one of the first things I 
>>> got for my 2004 Quickbeam. It’s been on there ever since, and it’s 
>>> pretty 
>>> great. It looks almost black now, after 20 years. 
>>>
>>> I didn’t know there were titanium railed versions either! 
>>>
>>> Good luck with the search,
>>> Philip
>>> SR, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 1:21:16 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>
 With great apprehension I come to you all with yet another WTB ask, 
 but this one is so much more.

 Back when I was first getting into "real bicycles", it was the 
 "come up" of fixed gears and track bikes. Some of you know what I'm 
 talking 
 about, it was around 05-06 and videos started to emerge online with 
 names 
 like Mash SF and Macaframa, an NYC based blog called Prolly is not 
 Probably 
 was gaining traction, and in my small, agriculture based hometown 
 there 
 were about 3 of us who discovered these things around the same time.

 There was a small bike shop that resided inside an also small, 
 local sporting goods store and a childhood friend had recently taken a 
 job 
 there learning the ropes in hopes of becoming a skilled mechanic, as 
 well 
 as to receive a discount on parts to fulfill the goal of going from a 
 27" 
 road bike with a JB Welded on track cog and bottom bracket lockring to 
 a 
 proper fixed gear set up.

 This friend helped me along the same pathway, trading up from a 
 clapped out Fuji Royale conversion, to the next and the next, 
 eventually 
 landing on some pretty neat bikes (for the time), with the "high" 
 being a 
 prototype Bianchi Super Pista. While I was wheeling and dealing (some 
 things never change, it appears) my friend stuck with this first and 
 only 
 proper fixed gear, a Surly Steamroller. Purchased complete, he 
 eventually 
 worked it over, a new Velocity Deep V wheelset, some wicked narrow 
 Nitto 
 NJS certified track drops, and the likes. 

 What really enamored me was this beautiful, and I mean gorgeous 
 Brooks B17 special. It was not just any B17 special, it was the newly 
 released "British Racing Green" color. That saddle was captivating to 
 me, 
 but at a scant 125lbs I never stood a chance of breaking one in, so I 
 stuck 
 with my Flites and Turbos. For years I watched that saddle age and get 
 more 
 and more beautiful, and the fire inside grew. The way the copper, hand 
 hammered rivets played off the green dyed leather... it was 
 mesmerizing! 
 Soon after this era I received my DL, found my way into aircooled 
 VW's, and 
 largely left cycling behind for 13-14 years.

 Since then I've always had a bike aroun

Re: [RBW] NBD - Periwinkle Sam

[Tom Goodmann]

This is like a model shoot; a sensational Sam, Ted.

Tom

On Wednesday, July 31, 2024 at 9:00:26 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Jul 31, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Ryan  wrote:
>
> and I love the shot next to the Rivendell Farms sign. 
>
>
> You’re the first person to mention that. I sent the photo to Grant and 
> others at RBW and they didn’t even notice it. Maybe it’s like the guy in 
> the gorilla suit … the bike is just so enthralling you miss everything else 
> in the shot.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
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[RBW] Re: VT- Montreal trip report

[Tom Goodmann]

What a great write-up and photos, Pam! I'm going to be in Vermont for the 
next four months, beginning in mid-August or so, and will take a look at 
that route. I agree, as well; those C&L people who were at PBE are very 
nice.

Tom

On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 3:21:09 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Pam, that looks like such a great trip!  I'm flying to Buffalo to ride the 
> Erie Canal with my son this summer, I suppose I will want to attach fenders 
> to my bike before we leave...in CA, we don't worry much about rain during 
> the summer months. 
>
> Tell us more about that sun hat you're wearing 
>
> On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 4:25:07 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Wow, Pam, that looks like quite a trip. And he got to meet so many great 
>> people along the way.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 10:22:31 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> When I met Julian and Roberto of C&L, the Riv dealer in Montreal, I got 
>>> the idea to ride there.  Here's the link to pictures.  And they put 
>>> together a ride while I was there.  So many Rivs!  Now I want to take 
>>> another bike trip!  https://cltspokespeople.org/category/blog/
>>
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Re: [RBW] UPS Lost My Roadini

[Tom Goodmann]

I imagine there may be many stories among us of shipping mishaps. I have 
found the Bike Flights folks quickly responsive.  The shippers themselves, 
however, do not always seem to take care of what is being shipped. In two 
cases in the past year, the box on arrival had clearly been broken open and 
re-taped; in one case, a box of parts was missing. Careful packing and 
insurance, as always.

Safe riding--and shipping--to all,

Tom
(departing Miami; whereabouts TBD)

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:06:02 PM UTC-4 oldandin...@gmail.com wrote:

> This happened to me when purchasing my Quickbeam. The investigation turned 
> up the box at the nearby distro center. When it finally got delivered I 
> noticed that the bike had been packed in an e-bike box. Makes me wonder if 
> anything presumed e-bike has a higher chance of getting "lost"...
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024, Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> My Roadini was sold and headed to Colorado then vanished, apparently. I 
>> used Bike Flights and they have opened an "investigation" to find it. I 
>> wanted to let the group know so that I can report on the service from Bike 
>> Flights. So far, I am impressed. I refunded the buyer in full in the 
>> meantime.
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Tom Goodmann]

Excellent account, Leah, and very enjoyable to read. I'm not surprised that 
you met friendly folk who took you along, as well as others you met along 
the way; seems like a very good era (again) on which to be on a bike!

Tom 
(who will return to PBE but next time with a bike)

On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 12:07:15 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Leah - Fantastic ride report. Your energy is so positive.  Love all the 
> details. 
>
> While you were away, we found an exquisite drop-bar bike for you: Rich's 
> Roadeo 
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-6 Scott Marriott wrote:
>
>> Scott here. My wife was kind of roped into the ride by a friend and she 
>> had a lot of fun. I actually mentioned to her that you bike was the 
>> idealized version of the bike I'd like for her to ride, but she's resistant 
>> to buying a Riv for herself. This one in the picture is a Trek 1984 420L 
>> mixte which is a kind of a an odd-ball early trek. (Sadly not Reynolds or 
>> Ishiwata, which would have made for a lighter bike.) The one actual direct 
>> from Riv item on the bike is the thumb shifter mounted on top of the 
>> handlebar close to the stem. Otherwise most of the bike is definitely 
>> Riv-spired.  That said when I was picking up yesterday in New Buffalo I was 
>> shocked to see so many boring (to me) bikes. It felt like at least 70% of 
>> the bikes where some type of Trek Domaine variant, there were a few Surly's 
>> and two Gunnar's, but I didn't see any vintage steel which was surprising.  
>> Glad you had a nice ride. Any thoughts on another Chicago group ride?
>>
>> Scott Marriott, Chicago (Hyde Park)
>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 8:21:43 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi you guys,
>>>
>>> I am home from my first real bike adventure. It was pretty darn perfect.
>>>
>>> I got on Amtrak just great at Kalamazoo. I rode to the station and got 
>>> there embarrassingly early. The agent helped me hoist the bike up the steep 
>>> steps (nearly impossible for just me as the back had three heavy bags and 
>>> the angle was practically vertical). He gave me premiere parking in the 
>>> hallway! And he helped lift the bike down those same steep stairs at the 
>>> ride’s end.
>>>
>>> Leif from this List reached out to me and invited me to ride with a 
>>> group of his friends (and his wife). They were Chicagoan, experienced 
>>> cyclists who had their own extras to put on the agenda and were welcoming 
>>> to add-ons like me. I had never met Leif, but he was as nice as you might 
>>> imagine and so was his wife. When do you ever decide to travel across state 
>>> lines with 6 strangers and think that’s a safe idea? Only on a bike tour. 
>>>
>>> The friends rode a variety of bikes, several had drop bars and 2 of them 
>>> were wearing kit. The rest of us were in normal clothes. Almost all of us 
>>> were about the same age, which was really nice as we were all in similar 
>>> stages of life. The group was SO kind and did not make me feel like an 
>>> interloper at all. Accomplished, interesting people, they were enjoyable to 
>>> chat with and I loved hearing about their lives. There were 2 married 
>>> couples in the group and they were very happy to be on their bikes 
>>> together. (Sweet!) This Tour de Shore was the leader’s 10th year doing it, 
>>> and he had prepared fun side quests for us. We took an extra and more 
>>> scenic departure from the city. Instead of eating PB&J at the SAG stop, we 
>>> hit a great brewery for a real lunch. He knew the little food co-op to get 
>>> the good ice cream bars from. These extras made the ride even more exciting.
>>>
>>> They all went camping, but I stayed in a hotel. I met them on the road 
>>> for Day 2 and was so pleased it worked. I had to add an extra 2 miles to my 
>>> route and frantically pedaled to get there in time because road 
>>> construction took the bridge out on my route and I was detoured. We made 
>>> good time today and rode pretty fast. We had 41 miles to do and we averaged 
>>> 20.3 mph on mile 35, 19.6 mph on mile 36 and 18.7 mph on mile 38. Not bad 
>>> for day two!
>>>
>>> The scenery was..well, I felt like we were in a movie. A lot of our 
>>> route was on bike paths and quiet roads. We wound our way around the coast 
>>> of Lake Michigan which, if never you’ve seen it, is teal (teal!!!) and like 
>>> an inland ocean. There were grand beach houses and kind townspeople. There 
>>> were wetlands and creeks and swamps and bridges. Serene bike paths under 
>>> tunnels of arching trees. We saw every kind of person riding every kind of 
>>> bike. I wish I had taken photos of the scenery but I dreaded causing a 
>>> wreck so left my phone in its mount. 
>>>
>>> The SAG stops were fun - the first one was a giant pancake breakfast and 
>>> you caught your pancakes on your plate as the cook sent them sailing 
>>> towards you in the air. The facilities were plush and w

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet & Romulus. A visual comparison.

[Tom Goodmann]

Beautiful bikes, both of them; that fendered Romulus!

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 9:48:58 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Cool!
>
> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 6:05:05 PM UTC-6 notlaw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The 63cm Romulus received a mild rebuild over the winter, and since I had 
>> the tripod handy I decided to photograph and visually compare the two. The 
>> Rambouillet is slightly smaller at 60cm. Similar builds and fit, the Ram is 
>> set up for slightly faster efforts.
>> Both are an absolute pleasure to ride. Enjoy.[image: DSC_2126.jpeg]
>> [image: DSC_2124.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

[Tom Goodmann]

So glad you posted this here, as the Insta vid is so fun. Congratulations!

On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:

> What a wonder! Absolutely terrific...and I loved hearing the backstories!
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 6:08 AM ian m  wrote:
>
>> Love the iridescent bits, the anodizer really nailed it
>>
>> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When "too much" is "just right." This bike will make you (and anyone who 
>>> sees it) smile. Who could not smile at the sight on a My Little Platy 
>>> coming down the road! I hope you have many joyous miles riding, and that 
>>> some of them are in California so we can see it in person!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 8:43:11 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Finally. New. Bike. Day.

 This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November 
 (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts 
 to arrive.

 Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes 
 with most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors. 

 The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My 
 Little Platy. 

 The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be taken 
 on Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings cannot do. I 
 put fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel Platy.

 I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had 
 rainbow hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL 
 the 
 colors? I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I 
 had my Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for 
 grips, I found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil 
 slick everywhere I could get it. 

 Because oil slick has ALL the colors.

 All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen. 
 They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild, 
 saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was 
 going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. 
 You 
 can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket. 
 She understood the assignment. 

 I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of 
 approval. The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my 
 adoration of this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to 
 my simple, happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl 
 (most of your were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could 
 choose from her lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you 
 just came out WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.

 Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite 
 Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for making 
 this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to 
 Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.

 Please find my video link below.
 Leah
 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=

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[RBW] Re: SOLD: Heron Road frame & fork, 60 cm; $600 + shipping

[Tom Goodmann]

On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 12:20:36 PM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:

One last effort to sell this never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork 
only. As all will know, these bikes were designed by Grant at Rivendell as 
a collaboration with Rona Components, then owned by Ted Durant. and produced at 
Waterford. This beautiful blue-green road frame bears serial number B00055, 
and was built in February 2000 with Reynolds 531 tubing. (For further 
information, all of the original Heron web pages are still accessible: 
http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html). 
Designed for then-available short reach brakes, and 28mm tires with fenders 
(RH Chinook Pass); 30mm tires will also fit, depending on actual dimensions 
and rims. For wider tires, some riders have happily converted these to 650b 
using long reach brakes that were not available when the frame was made; 
Tektro 559s, as usual, or similar.
  The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
perfect condition. I'm asking $600, plus shipping and insurance. 
  I'm selling because I am moving. (Meanwhile a local friend has sold 
me a beautiful custom Riv road bike, made by Curt Goodrich for Douglas 
Brooks. So, n-1; n+1 = 0, at least for now).

Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/ Questions are 
welcome; thanks for reading.  

Tom 

P.S. Coming soon: XO-3 with S&S couplers, size 59.

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[RBW] FS: Heron Road frame & fork, 60 cm; $600 + shipping

[Tom Goodmann]

One last effort to sell this never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork 
only. As all will know, these bikes were designed by Grant at Rivendell as 
a collaboration with Rona Components, then owned by Ted Durant. and produced at 
Waterford. This beautiful blue-green road frame bears serial number B00055, 
and was built in February 2000 with Reynolds 531 tubing. (For further 
information, all of the original Heron web pages are still accessible: 
http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html). 
Designed for then-available short reach brakes, and 28mm tires with fenders 
(RH Chinook Pass); 30mm tires will also fit, depending on actual dimensions 
and rims. For wider tires, some riders have happily converted these to 650b 
using long reach brakes that were not available when the frame was made; 
Tektro 559s, as usual, or similar.
  The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
perfect condition. I'm asking $600, plus shipping and insurance. 
  I'm selling because I am moving. (Meanwhile a local friend has sold 
me a beautiful custom Riv road bike, made by Curt Goodrich for Douglas 
Brooks. So, n-1; n+1 = 0, at least for now).

Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/ Questions are 
welcome; thanks for reading.  

Tom 

P.S. Coming soon: XO-3 with S&S couplers, size 59.

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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Tom Goodmann]

Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've shared of 
your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!

Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,

Tom 
(leaving Miami)

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your basket. 
> Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something you bought?  
> Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>
>> I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
>> thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
>> Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
>> subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
>> Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I need 
>> is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for those 
>> secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
>> Hope you have many more adventures to come.
>>
>> PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
>> singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> *
>>>
>>> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
>>> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
>>> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
>>> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with Brooks 
>>> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>>>
>>> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, and 
>>> Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto cable 
>>> hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off with 
>>> Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey e-bike 
>>> pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate canti-lever 
>>> brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not passed by test. 
>>> Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>>>
>>> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
>>> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
>>> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
>>> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, setup 
>>> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
>>> especially on dirt. 
>>>
>>> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight road 
>>> triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
>>> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
>>> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
>>> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set screws 
>>> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD pedals 
>>> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
>>> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
>>> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
>>> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
>>> *wonderfully.*
>>>
>>> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
>>> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
>>> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
>>> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
>>> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the x2 
>>> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd things 
>>> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ultra rare 
>>> matching Nitto BG-L 1-liter bottle cage on the bottom. Greenfield kickstand 
>>> wrapped with newbaums purple. Purple Blue Lug Koma lights front and rear at 
>>> the drop-outs for when I forget to bring my nicer lights. Newbaums wrap on 
>>> top tube for convenient handle grip when carrying up/down stairs to the 
>>> train. Blue lug style newbaums chainstay guard. Hemp twine features 
>>> everywhere. Lastly, any unused braze-ons are populated with M5 brass set 
>>> screws, including the backside of the utilized hourglass mounts 😉
>>>
>>> Security includes hexlox axles, with the same keyed inserts for the 
>>> seatpost clamp, stem, and saddle. GPS sticker for theft deterrent. Hidden 
>>> air tag. Serial number registered in two bike indexes. I purchased a 
>>> Kryptonite mini New York u-lock off ebay ($60 new!). It is absurd and 
>>> confidence inspiring. Makes

[RBW] Price drop: NOS Heron Road, 60cm, $800-->$700

[Tom Goodmann]

Never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork only (no headset; no bottom 
bracket). Designed by Grant at Rivendell as a collaboration with Rona 
Components, then owned by Ted Durant; built at Waterford. This beautiful 
blue-green road frame bears serial number B00055, and was built in February 
2000 with Reynolds 531 tubing. (For further information, all of the 
original Heron web pages are still accessible: 
http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html). 
Built for then-available short reach brakes, 28mm tires & fenders; 30mm 
tires will also fit, depending on actual dimensions and rims. (As Jan Heine 
has said, plushness is more significant than width). For wider tires, some 
owners have happily converted these to 650b using long reach brakes that 
were not available when this was made.  
  The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
perfect condition. $700, plus shipping and insurance. 
  I'd really like to move this along and am only selling because I am 
moving . . . and a local friend has offered me a custom Riv road frame. So, 
n-1; n+1 = 0.
Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/

Your questions are welcome; thanks for reading.  

Tom 

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[RBW] Re: Hello from Ireland

[Tom Goodmann]

Welcome, Nick!  Very beautiful country in these views; please do share your 
rides here. I understand it rarely rains? :)

Tom
(in Miami until the rainy season)

On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 11:27:34 AM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
> Nick,
>
> I add my welcome to the group 
> greetings.
>
> From what I understand I have ancestral connections generations back
> to Scotland and Ireland.
>
> I've always wanted to visit.
>
> I'll enjoy any ride accounts and pictures you share.
>
> Paul in Dallas,TX
> box_liam on Instagram 
>
>
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[RBW] FS: NOS Heron Road frame & fork, 60 cm

[Tom Goodmann]

(Reposting as potential sale was not completed). I'm downsizing ahead of an 
impending move, and selling a never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork 
only (no headset; no bottom bracket). As all of you will know, the bike was 
designed 
by Grant Petersen at Rivendell, and built by Waterford as a collaboration 
with Rona Components, then owned by Ted Durant. The beautiful blue-green 
road frame bears serial number B00055, and was built in February 2000 with 
Reynolds 531 tubing. (For further information, all of the original Heron 
web pages may be found on the Internet). 
  The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
perfect condition. $800, plus shipping and insurance (I'll use a smaller 
than full-size bike box). Questions welcome; thanks for reading.  Tom 
Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/

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[RBW] Re: FS: NOS Heron Road frame & fork, 60cm, $800

[Tom Goodmann]

The frame and fork are sold, pending payment. Thanks to all those who have 
written with interest.

Tom

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 9:53:04 PM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:

>   As part of downsizing ahead of an impending move, I am selling a 
> never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork only (no headset; no bottom 
> bracket). As all of you will know, the bike was designed by Grant 
> Petersen at Rivendell, and built by Waterford as a collaboration with Rona 
> Components, then owned by Ted Durant. The beautiful blue-green road frame 
> bears serial number B00055, and was built in February 2000 with Reynolds 
> 531 tubing. (For further information, all of the original Heron web pages 
> may be found on the Internet). 
>   The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
> dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
> it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
> perfect condition. $800, plus shipping and insurance (I'll use a frame box 
> instead of a full-size bike box). Questions welcome!  Tom 
> Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/
>

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[RBW] FS: NOS Heron Road frame & fork, 60cm, $800

[Tom Goodmann]

  As part of downsizing ahead of an impending move, I am selling a 
never-built 60 cm Heron Road frame and fork only (no headset; no bottom 
bracket). As all of you will know, the bike was designed by Grant Petersen 
at Rivendell, and built by Waterford as a collaboration with Rona 
Components, then owned by Ted Durant. The beautiful blue-green road frame 
bears serial number B00055, and was built in February 2000 with Reynolds 
531 tubing. (For further information, all of the original Heron web pages 
may be found on the Internet). 
  The frame bears only the slightest mark on the inside of one rear 
dropout, probably a sign of having been fitted with a wheel at some point; 
it is otherwise pristine with all decals and the Heron head badge in 
perfect condition. $800, plus shipping and insurance (I'll use a frame box 
instead of a full-size bike box). Questions welcome!  Tom 
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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Tom Goodmann]

Echoing Eric: so good to see Roman, James, and Will--and three beautiful 
bikes (all of which sold, I believe)--as well as meeting Roberta, Leah, 
Pam, Tom, Patty, Paul, Rick (riding a Rom with 38s!) and others at PBE. 
Multiple Atlantises and Platys amid the throngs. A very nice event in every 
respect; lots of group rides, including Saturday night to Keystone Bicycle 
Company for beer and pretzels, our group led by Pam. And seeing the work of 
advocates, of component makers, and the bikes of fine builders.  Very good 
crowds, too, on both days. I'm glad I went.  Thanks, Rivfolk!

Tom

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh and Bill too! Bill, I saw you heading to the expo on Sunday morning 
> while I was having a coffee at Habitat, didn't want to shout at you though. 
> Nice Atlantis!
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:05 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I had a nice visit at PBE. It was great to meet Pam, Leah, Roberta and 
>> Tim from here on the board! 
>>
>> Thanks to Tim for the Saturday night convoy to Keystone, riding bikes in 
>> the woods with a train of dynamos is really something. 
>>
>> Here's one with the fellas from Riv and Paul R. 
>>
>> [image: 240313 PBE 06.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:44:15 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> How about an informal meet at the Riv booth right after the show opens?  
>>>
>>> I'll be sporting a black Green Guru backpack (made with inner tubes) 
>>> with a Riv triangle.  I have white hair.
>>>
>>> I hope to see old friends and meet new ones!
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There’s more where that came from, I can send them more easily via 
 text. This is more or less its current configuration[image: IMG_0031]

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Bryce Lackey  wrote:

 

 <00m0m_3DD3lNnQboh_1320MM_600x450.jpg>
 XL Rivendell Sam Hillborne Frameset W Extras - bicycles - by owner - 
 bike sale - craigslist 
 
 philadelphia.craigslist.org 
 

 

 Here’s the ad. A couple pictures demonstrating the frame condition and 
 one of it all built up. 

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:18 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a 
 link to the CL ad?

 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:

> For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam 
> listed as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you 
> want to make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a 
> complete build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as 
> the 
> Keystone afterparty. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it 
>> out to the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My 
>> three-year-old has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross 
>> Check over the Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on 
>> two 
>> wheels. 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>
>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>
>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but 
>>> will be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  
>>> If 
>>> anyone needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>
>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>
>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
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[RBW] FS: 1994 Bridgestone RB-T, size 59; $500 OBO, plus shipping & insurance

[Tom Goodmann]

(With apologies for cross-posting from the iBOB list).  
Selling my1994 Bridgestone RB-T. This one is in very good shape, mostly 
original, and still a pleasure to ride. Shimano RX100 crank and triple 
rings, RX100 front and rear derailleurs, Shimano bar end shifters, Sakae 
0-degree/90-degree stem. Comes with Panaracer Pasela 32s and a worn but 
serviceable WTB saddle; MKS Sylvan pedals.  The original SR CTB handlebars 
are sleeved, and were slipping inside the sleeve, so I replaced 
them--thanks to a generous member of the iBOB list--with another set of the 
same bars to keep the bike close to original. (The original white bar tape 
went when I changed the bars; given personal cockpit preferences, I'll 
leave them unwrapped, unless requested otherwise). There is a slight dimple 
about halfway along the lefthand side of the top tube from a previous 
owner, but no paint loss there. Otherwise, the bike is in very good 
condition, including nearly all of the decals; even the original shop decal 
is intact. It weighs 25.4 lbs as built.

$500 OBO for the complete bike, plus shipping & insurance to be paid by the 
buyer. I will be sure to pack with great care. Photos here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/

Thanks,

Tom 
Miami, FL 

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[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Tom Goodmann]

This will be my first time at PBE (I missed all of the years of NAHBS). 
Regrettably coming from Miami without a bike, but hoping to rent one for at 
least one of the rides, and also volunteering for a shift at the show.  
Happy to meet up with Rivfolk! (Do we need a secret sign???)

Tom (who is looking for a bike-friendly, fly-fishing-friendly new home 
somewhere out there)

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 7:02:06 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> It's such a great event, I'm sad work got in the way and I cannot attend 
> his year. 
>
> Be sure to talk to all the vendors you have patronized in the past or 
> quietly objectify. It's a fine collection of people who are about bicycles 
> that trade shows of the past weren't. The accessibility and warmth of so 
> many of these folks, even big names, will surprise you. 
>
> Take and post lots of pictures!
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>
>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>
>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but will 
>> be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If anyone 
>> needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>
>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>
>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>

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[RBW] Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

[Tom Goodmann]

Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted right 
away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and am 
eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.  
Have any of you ridden it yet?

Now for that new derailer/derailleur!

Tom
Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF

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[RBW] Just mounted the new Riv seat+++

[Tom Goodmann]

Riv shipment just delivered, including the new seat, which I mounted right 
away for a neighborhood spin.  I find it immediately comfortable and am 
eager to try it on a longer ride; first impressions are very positive.  

Now for that new derailer/derailleur!

Tom
Miami, FL, where it is currently 82ºF

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[RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Tom Goodmann]

I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am 
okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.  
You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited 
effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But 
there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an 
extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British 
films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s 
grease-free!

Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where 
> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the 
> bike?
>
> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my 
> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back, 
> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you 
> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon. 
> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a 
> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser. 
>
> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the era 
> of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall riding 
> boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried about 
> getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era. 
>
> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch. I 
> really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over getting 
> them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my Saddlesack 
> for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those straps work 
> better in theory than in real life because by the time I got home, 
> well…here’s a photo. 
>
> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to 
> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic, 
> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking. 
> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going 
> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>
> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will mark 
> up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move the 
> pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me that 
> these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the damage 
> to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and sneakers 
> year-round.
>
> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike? Do 
> you wear what you want? Do you even care? 
>
> Meanwhile, I did order more ankle straps, figuring more is more. While I’m 
> not too distressed about my army green pants getting greasy, I might feel 
> differently if the pants were a lighter color. 
>
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Book Recommendation: The United States of Adventure

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Leah! I've not read this one, but will do, and recommend her *Llama 
Drama *as well.

Tom

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:02:19 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Thank you for this recommendation, Leah!  After reading the short glimpse 
> of the book on Amazon, Ann McNuff looks to be a very talented and 
> entertaining writer.  It's also nice to find a travel "adventure" book 
> written with a woman's perspective.  I'm ordering it!
>
> RivSisters!
> Joyce
>
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 8:06:34 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve been sad about our temperamental weather here in southwest Michigan. 
>> After a perfectly sublime week of 70-something temps that set off our 
>> tulips and daffodils and flowering trees, we are back to drizzly weather 
>> topping out in the 40s. I’m freezing over here. I have an Apple Watch tan 
>> line but am back to wearing a parka. Make it make sense. 
>>
>> Anyway, if you can’t have your real adventures I suppose you can read 
>> about someone else’s. I stumbled across The United States of Adventure by 
>> Anna McNuff and have been reading as Anna, a British woman in the corporate 
>> world in her 20s, cycles her way through all 50 states. I will never cycle 
>> through all 50 states, but it is fun to peer into the life of someone who 
>> did.
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/United-States-Adventure-life-changing-journey/dp/1914074033
>>
>> Enjoy.
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto quill adapter, 130mm

[Tom Goodmann]

What a good story, Garth!  I can remember that moment in time too--sorry
about Rush cancelling, though--including bike touring on those 100-degree
Midwest days on a Schwinn Le Tour.  That's a pretty area of Ohio you are in
now, yes, nice for motorcycling too.

Although Mom-and-Pops stores have been replaced by Dollar Generals, the
Driftless is still a beautiful area with a strong sense of itself as a
distinctive region, whatever maps demarcate as state lines, and that river
running through it.  There are active randonneuring chapters in WI and MN
and of course seasonal riding any day.  Might be home again!

Tom

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 9:53 AM Garth  wrote:

> Driftless ... did you say Driftless Tom ? !!!  I was just talking about
> this with my brother a few weeks ago. and what a treasure it is. I grew
> up in Rochester, MN and I regularly rode to Winona and back in the 80's.
> I'd also stay at hotels on the Wisconsin side and take day trips around by
> bike. Oh heck, I guess I did tours on both sides of the river too, so many
> good memories of those summers. A buddy and I planned a whole tour around a
> Rush concert in LaCrosse only to find out it was cancelled when we got
> there.  laughing heartily   I can hear his tape recorder belting
> out Billy Idol's. "White Wedding" and "Hot in the City Tonight" and
> it was hot  like 100 and humid as humid can be there in the summer. The
> most memorable bottle of Gatorade I ever had was at a Mom and Pop shop
> outside of Rushford, I can still feel that chilly glass bottle in my hand
> and oh what a refresher it was. Oh how I love me some Midwest sensibilities
> indeed !
>
> While I live in Ohio now, it has those same sensibilities. I live in my
> driftless-like area along the Ohio River which is very much like the
> Mississippi River valley but on a smaller scale, so it's more easily
> accessible from my house.
>
> The beauty in telling stories is in the speaking, animating them ;)
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 6:47:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> Thank you, both. I tried that one branded as Soma, Wes, and it was too
>> tall; I'll get hold of Ben's Cycle and confirm things, Garth.
>>
>> I agree with your thumbs up for Midwestern sensibilities; I'm thinking
>> seriously about returning to the Driftless area for all the riding and more
>> that it offers.
>>
>> Tom
>> Miami
>>
>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 5:09:23 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Ben's Cycle in Milwaukee is always a go-to place to find Nitto things,
>>> and these stem adapters are no different. The folly of looking for these
>>> adapters is that they go by many different names and, the model numbers get
>>> mixed up, and the photos shown are often of a different variation. So of
>>> course Ben's has them, and the photo isn't the specific model, so right on
>>> que !  The description is correct however. Do email them to confirm, as
>>> they are responsive to emails, it's often Drew , as I recall. Their price
>>> includes complimentary shipping over $49. I really like their business, and
>>> that it's a real classic bike shop, and it's Wisconsin and I love me some
>>> Midwest sensibilities !
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-mt-stem-column-adaptor--1--threaded-fork-to-1-18--threadless-stem-stem_column_adaptor_nitto_3488_sm1063/p#tabs
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto quill adapter, 130mm

[Tom Goodmann]

Thank you, both. I tried that one branded as Soma, Wes, and it was too 
tall; I'll get hold of Ben's Cycle and confirm things, Garth. 

I agree with your thumbs up for Midwestern sensibilities; I'm thinking 
seriously about returning to the Driftless area for all the riding and more 
that it offers.

Tom 
Miami 

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 5:09:23 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Ben's Cycle in Milwaukee is always a go-to place to find Nitto things, and 
> these stem adapters are no different. The folly of looking for these 
> adapters is that they go by many different names and, the model numbers get 
> mixed up, and the photos shown are often of a different variation. So of 
> course Ben's has them, and the photo isn't the specific model, so right on 
> que !  The description is correct however. Do email them to confirm, as 
> they are responsive to emails, it's often Drew , as I recall. Their price 
> includes complimentary shipping over $49. I really like their business, and 
> that it's a real classic bike shop, and it's Wisconsin and I love me some 
> Midwest sensibilities ! 
>
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-mt-stem-column-adaptor--1--threaded-fork-to-1-18--threadless-stem-stem_column_adaptor_nitto_3488_sm1063/p#tabs
>
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto quill adapter, 130mm

[Tom Goodmann]

Though likely scarce as a horn shed from a unicorn, I wonder whether anyone 
might have one of these and be willing to part with 
it. https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-mtc-quill-for-threadless-stem 

I've been on the restock notification list for Riv, understanding the wait 
for many things from Nitto.

Thanks for any leads!  

Tom 

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[RBW] Re: Pamela Murray: Bike Hero

[Tom Goodmann]

This video is the best!  It's true what you say, Pam: you're always smiling 
'cause you're always on your bike.  And inspiring too--as in, "What could I 
be doing in my own community?"

Here is further recent acknowledgment of 
Pam: 
https://www.planetbike.com/blog/meet-our-winter-super-commuter-pamela-murray-/

Tom
(soon vacating the subtropics)

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 1:07:34 AM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I've watched the video twice and will probably watch it a third time at 
> some point. Even though I ride almost everyday as well, I always learn 
> something or at least gain fresh perspective from someone else who does as 
> well - and Pam's insights run especially deep as someone who's put 
> themselves in other people's shoes a lot for education purposes!  Plus, I 
> am always impressed by the "carry shit olympics" and 1001 ways to use the 
> Irish strap. 
>
> I have said it many times, to many people, but there is no Riv I find more 
> inspiring than that Betty Foy, too! It's ironic, for sure, that I've spent 
> so much money (that should be in my retirement savings) on an assortment of 
> well-appointed bikes but deep down what I really appreciate is a 
> heavily-used and immensely practical bike - and Pam's Betty is at the top 
> of the podium for me.  
>
> I ride about 4000 miles per year, give or take, but since I'm splitting 
> that mileage across a handful of bikes (and usually a one- or two-bike 
> rotation each year) the highest mileage bike I have is the Hillborne at 
> ~5300 miles or 8400 km.  The Bombadil is runner up at ~4000 miles, and 
> these are the highest numbers I've ever put on a bike except for probably 
> my teenage Marin 90's MTB that I rode every day for ten years well before 
> the likes of Strava.  
>
> On Wednesday, 5 April 2023 at 22:30:28 UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Pam, you rock!  That's just the most awesome thing at a time when people 
>> like you and events like this are needed so badly.  Hero is right.   Leah, 
>> thanks for posting this - you rock too.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 8:34:40 PM UTC-6 jan.ot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very inspiring indeed. Congratulations Pam!
>>>
>>> Jan
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Pamela Murray: Bike Hero

[Tom Goodmann]

Congratulations, Pam! It's a very enjoyable story to watch.  

Tom (in Miami, a flat environment that could be transformed into a cycling 
city!)

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 2:59:56 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> So cool. Being from Georgia, I must say I love and appreciate Pam's 
> accent. She makes good points about riding on roads being relatively safe 
> if you learn to do so properly. The health benefits outweigh the risks I 
> believe you said and I concur.
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 2:08:01 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Our very own RivSister Pam Murray was recently featured as a local bike 
>> hero in Charlotte, NC. The footage is just beautifully captured, displaying 
>> sweeping drone views of the city as well as up close views of Pam’s beloved 
>> Rivendell Betty Foy as well as the legend herself.
>>
>> Pam’s Rivendell was purchased in 2011 and she has ridden it nearly every 
>> day since, racking up an impressive 75,000 miles or so. She will be the 
>> first and likely only Rivster to ride her steel frame into dust.
>>
>> Please enjoy and show her some much-deserved recognition!
>> RivSister Leah
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzQ8Z4RjZkQ
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Heron Rando-55cm

[Tom Goodmann]

Hi Joe,

If you contact Greg Parker, he can get you a frame; the Sportifs are classy
and classic-looking. While they are not designed for this w-i-d-e tire
moment, they sure look like wonderful road bike frames that will
accommodate tires suitable for randonneuring.  It'd be great to see them
built up and as bare frames on the Heron web pages!

Tom

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 1:29 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Do you know if this is a Ted Durant or Todd Kuzma Heron? The site you
> linked to discusses a Sportif model supposedly showing up in 2017 (third
> owner of the Heron company) but I'm not clear if they ever got going.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:09:48 PM UTC-7 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> As I'm sure everyone knows, the Heron geo information is still available,
>> though not standover figures: http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html.
>>  The geometry for the Heron Randonneur--very few of them made, as you say,
>> Mike--is not so different from the Touring or Road models in terms of
>> rake.  If this one were a 59 or 61 . . . !
>>
>> Greg Parker has kindly shared with me that the Sportif has more of a
>> lower-mid trail configuration, with standard diameter tubing, and a level
>> TT.
>>
>> Tom in Miami (temporarily in Colorado)
>>
>> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:03:55 PM UTC-6 mike goldman wrote:
>>
>>> joel,
>>>
>>> they didnt make herons very long and only a handful of the Randos so i
>>> dont think or know if geometry changed. you can email my buddy through
>>> craigslist for the standover
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Heron Rando-55cm

[Tom Goodmann]

As I'm sure everyone knows, the Heron geo information is still available, 
though not standover figures: http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html.  
 The geometry for the Heron Randonneur--very few of them made, as you say, 
Mike--is not so different from the Touring or Road models in terms of 
rake.  If this one were a 59 or 61 . . . !

Greg Parker has kindly shared with me that the Sportif has more of a 
lower-mid trail configuration, with standard diameter tubing, and a level 
TT.

Tom in Miami (temporarily in Colorado)

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> joel,
>
> they didnt make herons very long and only a handful of the Randos so i 
> dont think or know if geometry changed. you can email my buddy through 
> craigslist for the standover
>
> mike
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Tom Goodmann]

RBW List to the rescue! So nice! 

Tom in Miami

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 9:45:48 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> I am sorry to hear of your misgivings over your bicycle parts. 
>
> If you are still not happy with your new kickstand, I would be more than 
> happy to send you my single kickstand that came stock with my Clem Smith 
> Jr. "L" bike for no cost to you. I have not intentions of using it. I have 
> a double footed-Pletscher kickstand.
>
> I will take a picture(s) of it and send them to you, if are interested.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 6:31:56 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, here is the new Rivendell rear rack, for those of you wondering how 
>> it would mount. It clears the fender light, which is the problem I had with 
>> the Nitto medium Big Back Rack.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> New stand:
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be 
>> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan 
>> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes. 
>>
>> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I 
>> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about 
>> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d 
>> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to 
>> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires 
>> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d 
>> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he 
>> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned 
>> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it 
>> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a 
>> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes. 
>>
>> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades 
>> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be 
>> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get 
>> replaced it’s intolerable.
>>
>> Kickstands.
>>
>> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in 
>> the back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced 
>> that kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too 
>> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my 
>> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way 
>> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and 
>> hope it would be right.
>>
>> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I 
>> also brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my 
>> bike. I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a 
>> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic 
>> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he 
>> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a 
>> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The 
>> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>>
>> But it wasn’t the SAME. 
>>
>> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland 
>> Design Works stand; this one, I think: 
>> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>>
>> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get 
>> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack 
>> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play 
>> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand? 
>>
>> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be 
>> done with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this 
>> one is adjustable. 
>>
>> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the 
>> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you 
>> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics 
>> in the following post…
>>
>> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of 
>> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is 
>> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike 
>> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these 
>> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>>
>> Pics forthcoming…
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Signing up for Scary Things: Intro to Bike Mechanics

[Tom Goodmann]

Excellent post, Leah, and the thread it has inspired; kudos to your LBS and 
mechanic too. I can only do a few things at this point, but mean to change 
that by signing up for a class at the United Bicycle Institute in Oregon 
sometime in the next year, once I step off the work wheel here in May.  
Like many, I expect, I've always found even modest mechanical, plumbing, 
household, or electrical fixes satisfying, especially since I'm at a screen 
for so much of every day.

Tom in Miami

On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 9:31:38 AM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Yes, RJ the Bike Guy is great.  Especially when he’s making his own tools, 
> like the homemade bottom bracket thread chaser, the homemade headset press… 
> it takes some of the mystery out of these processes.  
>
> On Feb 20, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yep, three cheers for not underestimating your abilities ! 
>
> In regards to wheel stuff, watch Jim Langley's video on wheel building, 
> it's an hour, and you can watch it in parts of course. He has a rather 
> calming way of showing you how he does it, and he's encouraging. Even if 
> you have no confidence or desire to touch a wheel, at least watch it to see 
> that it's not so mysterious. 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
> And in print from his website. 
> https://jimlangley.net/wrench/wheelbuildfull.html
>
> I have to say for an independent bike mechanic I always find "RJ The Bike 
> Guy" on YT to have good videos for how to adjust/overhaul anything bike 
> related. 
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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Tom Goodmann]

What a good story of bicycle and bicyclist!  Thank you for including a 
great set of photos; as everyone has said, the restoration is beautiful, 
offering testimony too to Waterford as a do-it-all shop.  

One of the many things I appreciate about bicycles is the long lives of 
multiple use and pleasure they have--and in this case, with one owner only!

Tom
In Miami, where the riding weather is perfect . . . for now

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:42:37 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Peter, beautiful job, great color.  I hope you enjoy the bike for many 
> more years.  
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: English subtitles for Blue Lug's video

[Tom Goodmann]

Thank you so much, Masa! Watching this (along with "Cycle Around Japan" 
episodes) makes me want to go there and ride a great Japanese bike around 
the islands.

Tom

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:05:05 AM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> This is great! 
>
> I have watched several Blue Lug videos in Japanese, and while soothing and 
> delightful, I am always grateful for those that are subtitled.
>
> Here’s to Masa, and bilingual bicycling! 
> k.
>
> On Feb 3, 2023, at 5:10 AM, J  wrote:
>
> Great work on the Subtitles!
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> This is my first post of 2023, I hope you are having good rides!
>>
>> Last month I happened to have an opportunity to make subtitles for Blue 
>> Lug’s YouTube channel and now the “Rivendell Chart” video is English 
>> subtitled!
>>
>> Let me tell you how it happened. First of all, When I finished watching 
>> the video I felt that “oh this video should be shared with English speaking 
>> Rivendell fans(means this "RBW Owners Bunch) too” so I started translating 
>> the video briefly.
>>
>> Then I found someone commented that “Subtitles please!” and Blue Lug 
>> replied “we’d love to but at the moment we are too busy so we need a help”. 
>> I thought that “why don’t I do that?”
>>
>> It took me a week to complete subtitling between my work, playing with my 
>> baby, feeding my baby, putting my baby to sleep, sleeping with my baby, 
>> chatting with my wife and commuting by my Platypus.
>>
>> It was a really fun work to do related to not only the things I’m 
>> passionate about which are languages and bicycles but also favourite people 
>> who are Rivendell and Blue Lug!
>>
>> I would be very happy that if I could be a help for Rivendell and Blue 
>> Lug. Ultimately I hope people who watch the subtitled video will find how 
>> Rivendell bicycles are amazing even better than before, that would be 
>> amazing.
>>
>> Link to the video↓
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>>
>> Masa
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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Tom Goodmann]

Congratulations, Brian!  And thanks for sharing this information.  

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On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:31:31 PM UTC-5 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I checked these out today and picked up the blue Homer. My first riv! I've 
> got some stuff to change on it but i am super excited.
>
> The grey 'homer' is indeed a 650b canti bike. Prob a saluki as Bill 
> suggested. Paint was really nice.
>
> The Ram also had 650b wheels with long reach brakes at the bottom of the 
> slots. Also had nice, presumably custom, paint.
>
> The Curt was a beautiful bike. Had 700x38 tires with fenders. Looked like 
> it would clear a little bigger with fenders. Maybe a 42 or 45 without.
>
> The Riv custom had 26" wheels. Tires that were on it were 35 or 38. Again 
> could probably fit a 42 or 45 but not much more.
>
> All the bikes are in the 60cm range with top tubes between 57-59. The 
> seller, Steve, was super nice and I'm sure would be happy to provide 
> whatever info someone may be looking for if you give him a ring. He didn't 
> seem keen on shipping the bikes because of how big of a pain it is (i feel 
> him on that), but I bet he'd be open to delivering to a local shop to 
> arrange shipping.
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
>> here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
>> information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
>> Louis??) 
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried 
>>> to get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
>>> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
>>> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
>>> Frank 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>>>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
>>>> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
>>>> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
>>>> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
>>>> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
>>>> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
>>>> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be 
>>>> able 
>>>> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>>>
>>>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
>>>> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
>>>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might 
>>>> as 
>>>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>>>
>>>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>>>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>>>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
>>>> the giveaway)
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/591659724221291/permalink/5766806640039881/>
>>>>  
>>>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
>>>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
>>>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
>>>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
>>>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
>>>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
>>>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
>>>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>>>> Thanks, everyone.
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[Tom Goodmann]

What a collection!  All look very clean too.  Acknowledging the keen eyes 
here, it's too bad someone is not on hand to help the seller offer accurate 
information about each bike. (Is everyone looking at flights to Saint 
Louis??) 
Tom

On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 7:41:20 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Good point. I didn't even think about the All Rounder. I actually tried to 
> get Joe Starck to build me a bicycle after he had quite the business. He 
> refused to pick the torch back up and was adamant about never building 
> again. There is not a bike in that whole lot I wouldn't like to own.
> Frank 
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 6:20:33 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:55:01 AM UTC-7 Frank Brose wrote:
>> Buy the Goodrich if it fits and can handle the tires you want to run. 
>> They are rare and built by a true craftsman. The quality of Curt's builds 
>> are second to none and most custom builders would attest to that and they 
>> have a ride to match. I know because I had Curt build me a 650b bike that 
>> would fit 42's back when the 650b's were just starting to become popular. 
>> I've had at least 6 different Riv's. All fine bikes but not as fine as a 
>> Goodrich. You won't be disappointed and if you are you'll certainly be able 
>> to find someone to take it off your hands. 
>>
>> As a point of fact, the All Rounder might very well have been made by 
>> Curt Goodrich.  If not him, then Joe Starck or, maybe Richard Sachs.  If 
>> the builder is an important consideration to you (and I'd agree it might as 
>> well be), then you won't go wrong with that one. 
>>
>> The Ram is one of the earlier ones - probably orange prior to the 
>> re-paint (and brake mod?).  It and both of the Homers (or Homer and 
>> re-painted Saluki) are Toyo built.  Also very high quality.  (The lugs are 
>> the giveaway)
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>> 
>>  
>> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
>> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
>> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
>> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
>> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
>> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
>> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
>> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
>> Thanks, everyone.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Tom Goodmann]

Nice set-up! The bike looks very much at home in its new setting. 
Congratulations on the new-to-you bike, and to both of you on a successful 
exchange.

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:58:06 PM UTC-5 Jared Wilson wrote:

> PHOTO 
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Unicorn pursuit . . . Heron Randonneur 59

[Tom Goodmann]

Looking into the history on this list, I see now that a 59 Heron Rando came 
and went on CL in April 2019--so the unicorn made at least one appearance!

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 2:04:18 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> Thanks, Joe!  Few Rivs appear here on the East Coast, at least as far as 
> I've seen. And in olden days, few B'stones were sold here, likewise; I've 
> only met one other person with one of those.  But, hey, the hunt is half 
> the fun, right?
>
> On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 1:07:45 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Tom,
>>
>> I’m on a unicorn search too for a Rosco Bubbe MMM. Never give up! I’ll 
>> keep an eye out for you here in Los Angeles.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Joe
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:
>>
>> Most unlikely to find, I know; could probably make a 61 work too, 
>> although that size is no more likely to be found, I'm sure!  There's a 55 
>> on c'list, I see.
>>
>> Unicorns aside, I appreciate this bunch!  
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Unicorn pursuit . . . Heron Randonneur 59

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Joe!  Few Rivs appear here on the East Coast, at least as far as 
I've seen. And in olden days, few B'stones were sold here, likewise; I've 
only met one other person with one of those.  But, hey, the hunt is half 
the fun, right?

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 1:07:45 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Tom,
>
> I’m on a unicorn search too for a Rosco Bubbe MMM. Never give up! I’ll 
> keep an eye out for you here in Los Angeles.
>
> Good luck!
> Joe
>
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:
>
> Most unlikely to find, I know; could probably make a 61 work too, although 
> that size is no more likely to be found, I'm sure!  There's a 55 on c'list, 
> I see.
>
> Unicorns aside, I appreciate this bunch!  
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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[RBW] Unicorn pursuit . . . Heron Randonneur 59

[Tom Goodmann]

Most unlikely to find, I know; could probably make a 61 work too, although 
that size is no more likely to be found, I'm sure!  There's a 55 on c'list, 
I see.

Unicorns aside, I appreciate this bunch!  

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Timeline - it's happening!

[Tom Goodmann]

This thread is the best reading I've done this week, although it makes me 
want *all-the-Rivs*!

Tom (in Miami, where it's peak riding season)

On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 9:37:13 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:

> I'll have to check out that thread.
>
> As a gray/orange Hunqapillar owner, I much prefer the darker shade of 
> orange shown in your photo here.  
>
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 6:25:39 AM UTC-6 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> To satisify my own itch, I did a series of photoshop mockups of the first 
>> diagatube Hunqapillars beginning Monday, April 5th at 7:59am. Two versions 
>> - one that is like the production version we ended up with, and another 
>> that had extended "mixte" like tubes that ended near the rear dropouts. 
>> (That one sort of became the Bombadil ultimately.) These first mockups led 
>> to more than 20 others, prompted by an email from Grant who saw the posts 
>> here and wanted to explore different color combos and other details. It all 
>> happened pretty fast. Here are mockups #1 and #2, and a couple others along 
>> the way. If you look closely at the front tire markings, you can see how I 
>> kept track of the various mockups. For the record, here is the thread where 
>> these were revealed and all of this is discussed (passionately!):  
>>
>> DiagaHunq Discussion 
>> 
>>
>> It was fun to be a small part of the history of this great bike. I owned 
>> one for a short time, but it was way too small for me, and had some damage. 
>> Looking back, those chainstays look ridiculously short! My current Clem H 
>> is all the Hunq I need now. 
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> [image: DiagHunq1.jpg][image: DiagHunq2.jpg]
>>
>> FYI - to facilitate the mockups I was using a pic that was posted on the 
>> Riv site somewhere - it was Jay's bike:
>>
>> [image: Jay_s_H.jpg]
>>
>> This one in orange and grey, with a cork lift handle idea. Not sure who's 
>> bike this was. 
>> [image: Hunqamarty 10.0.jpg]
>>
>> OK - this one was a stretch...
>> [image: Hunqamarty 8.0.jpg]
>>
>> And a black & grey version I kind of liked. with graphics on the mid-tube.
>> [image: Hunqamarty 21.0.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 11:15:22 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Michael - they switched from the dual TT style to the diaga-tube in 2010 
>>> on Bombadils :)  So the diaga is the newer versio
>>
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[RBW] WTB Heron Randonneur, 59 cm

[Tom Goodmann]

As posted over at ibob, this is a quixotic quest, I'm sure, but if anyone 
knows of a Heron Randonneur frame for sale, I'd be happy to learn (I see 
one out there on CL, but it is a 55 cm frame).  I think few of these frames 
were made, so the chances are slim.

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring, complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Sale pending for Heron Touring.  Thanks, all! Tom

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 9:30:00 AM UTC-5 Ray wrote:

> No worries, Tom. I was hoping that we'd be close enough to allow a test 
> ride. Unfortunately I'm still not confident enough in my size to take a 
> gamble but best of luck with the sale! Someone is going to get a great ride.
>
> Ray
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> HI, Ray; I should have included my location; I'll edit my post. I'm in 
>> Miami in zip code 33155.  As I said, a while back I posted this bike for a 
>> slightly higher price and there was no interest in it. Things change!  
>> Well, I'll be happy if it goes to an appreciative new owner, and this is 
>> the best place to find one.  Tom
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:36 AM Ray  wrote:
>>
>>> I have to agree with Chris. I was surprised you weren't asking more for 
>>> it. It looks lovely, and I have been considering adding an honest touring 
>>> bike to my stable (though I certainly don't need another bike). Do you mind 
>>> if I ask where you are located? 
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:12:27 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Chris;
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate you writing--guess I should be asking for more for this 
>>>> bike!  I won't refuse a higher offer 😁I've advertised it here before, and 
>>>> there was no interest at that time.  I've really enjoyed it, but am trying 
>>>> to clear out things in every category in life; I have a Sam (55 with the 
>>>> double TT, but I wish it were the next size up that has since been 
>>>> offered), a Legolas, and a Curt Goodrich prototype for the Saluki/650b 
>>>> (the 
>>>> One Bike to Rule Them All). You're right, the Heron Touring does 
>>>> everything 
>>>> well all day long; thanks for sharing that you fit 38s on it--very good to 
>>>> know.  Well, if it doesn't sell, I will take it out on the road again, and 
>>>> try it with a set of Barlow Pass tires!  Tom
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:51 AM Christopher Cote <
>>>> christophe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have that exact same bike, and even though I rarely ride on the road 
>>>>> any more, I wouldn't consider selling mine for twice that price! If 
>>>>> you're 
>>>>> considering a Sam Hillborne, this is 98% a functional replacement for 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> bike. Mine fits an honest 38mm tire, with the undimpled chainstays being 
>>>>> the choke point. A framebuilder or skilled amateur could easily dimple 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> chainstays, and it would probably clear 40mm tires, maybe even 42mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also had a 58cm Heron Road that was a wonderful bike. I sold it to 
>>>>> finance an Rambouillet, which is also a wonderful bike, but I miss the 
>>>>> Heron Road!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 6:28:20 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made 
>>>>>> Heron Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except 
>>>>>> pedals and saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> a 35mm tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 
>>>>>> fundraiser (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well 
>>>>>> as 
>>>>>> for weekend rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 
>>>>>> 7-speed cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela 
>>>>>> tires; 
>>>>>> Suntour front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end 
>>>>>> shifters; 
>>>>>> Sugino crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone 
>>>>>> brake levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no 
>>>>>> dents 
>>>>>> or dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and 
>>>>>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  
>>>>>> Please 
>>>>>> see the photo below; I have others to share on re

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring, complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

HI, Ray; I should have included my location; I'll edit my post. I'm in
Miami in zip code 33155.  As I said, a while back I posted this bike for a
slightly higher price and there was no interest in it. Things change!
Well, I'll be happy if it goes to an appreciative new owner, and this is
the best place to find one.  Tom

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:36 AM Ray  wrote:

> I have to agree with Chris. I was surprised you weren't asking more for
> it. It looks lovely, and I have been considering adding an honest touring
> bike to my stable (though I certainly don't need another bike). Do you mind
> if I ask where you are located?
>
> Ray
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:12:27 AM UTC-6 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> Hi, Chris;
>>
>> I appreciate you writing--guess I should be asking for more for this
>> bike!  I won't refuse a higher offer 😁I've advertised it here before, and
>> there was no interest at that time.  I've really enjoyed it, but am trying
>> to clear out things in every category in life; I have a Sam (55 with the
>> double TT, but I wish it were the next size up that has since been
>> offered), a Legolas, and a Curt Goodrich prototype for the Saluki/650b (the
>> One Bike to Rule Them All). You're right, the Heron Touring does everything
>> well all day long; thanks for sharing that you fit 38s on it--very good to
>> know.  Well, if it doesn't sell, I will take it out on the road again, and
>> try it with a set of Barlow Pass tires!  Tom
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:51 AM Christopher Cote 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have that exact same bike, and even though I rarely ride on the road
>>> any more, I wouldn't consider selling mine for twice that price! If you're
>>> considering a Sam Hillborne, this is 98% a functional replacement for that
>>> bike. Mine fits an honest 38mm tire, with the undimpled chainstays being
>>> the choke point. A framebuilder or skilled amateur could easily dimple the
>>> chainstays, and it would probably clear 40mm tires, maybe even 42mm.
>>>
>>> I also had a 58cm Heron Road that was a wonderful bike. I sold it to
>>> finance an Rambouillet, which is also a wonderful bike, but I miss the
>>> Heron Road!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 6:28:20 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron
>>>> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and
>>>> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm
>>>> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser
>>>> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend
>>>> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed
>>>> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour
>>>> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino
>>>> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake
>>>> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or
>>>> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and
>>>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please
>>>> see the photo below; I have others to share on request.  I’ll pack with
>>>> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  
>>>> *$695
>>>> + shipping & insurance*
>>>>
>>>> There are web pages that give lots of information about this joint
>>>> project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma;
>>>> happy to share them via a PM.
>>>>
>>>> I also have a NOS Heron Road frame and fork that I will post for sale;
>>>> the two would make a nice pair.[image:
>>>> 4E01C407-99C2-4D62-8C11-37A270D66C75.jpeg]
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring, complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Hi, Chris;

I appreciate you writing--guess I should be asking for more for this bike!
I won't refuse a higher offer 😁I've advertised it here before, and there
was no interest at that time.  I've really enjoyed it, but am trying to
clear out things in every category in life; I have a Sam (55 with the
double TT, but I wish it were the next size up that has since been
offered), a Legolas, and a Curt Goodrich prototype for the Saluki/650b (the
One Bike to Rule Them All). You're right, the Heron Touring does everything
well all day long; thanks for sharing that you fit 38s on it--very good to
know.  Well, if it doesn't sell, I will take it out on the road again, and
try it with a set of Barlow Pass tires!  Tom

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:51 AM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have that exact same bike, and even though I rarely ride on the road any
> more, I wouldn't consider selling mine for twice that price! If you're
> considering a Sam Hillborne, this is 98% a functional replacement for that
> bike. Mine fits an honest 38mm tire, with the undimpled chainstays being
> the choke point. A framebuilder or skilled amateur could easily dimple the
> chainstays, and it would probably clear 40mm tires, maybe even 42mm.
>
> I also had a 58cm Heron Road that was a wonderful bike. I sold it to
> finance an Rambouillet, which is also a wonderful bike, but I miss the
> Heron Road!
>
> Chris
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 6:28:20 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron
>> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and
>> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm
>> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser
>> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend
>> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed
>> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour
>> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino
>> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake
>> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or
>> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and
>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please
>> see the photo below; I have others to share on request.  I’ll pack with
>> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  *$695
>> + shipping & insurance*
>>
>> There are web pages that give lots of information about this joint
>> project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma;
>> happy to share them via a PM.
>>
>> I also have a NOS Heron Road frame and fork that I will post for sale;
>> the two would make a nice pair.[image:
>> 4E01C407-99C2-4D62-8C11-37A270D66C75.jpeg]
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Steve, for sharing your buying experience with GB; very helpful.
--Tom

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 8:39 AM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
> On 8/15/20 11:36 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> Not specifically. Cost was about the same as shipping from a US vendor, as I 
> recall.
>
> You should be able to estimate shipping on the Grand Bois web site before you 
> order.
>
>
> That isn't how it works.
>
> You place your order and wait.  Grand Bois will then send you an email
> with a PayPal invoice for the order with shipping enumerated.   You either
> say forget it, or pay the invoice and your order will be processed.
>
> Here's  my PayPal receipt from the last time I bought tires (3 700C
> Cypres) back in spring 2019.  No idea if prices have changed since then.
>
>
> You just sent a ¥14,500 JPY payment
>
>
> Hello Stephen Palincsar,
> Thanks for using PayPal. It may take a few moments for this transaction to
> appear in your account.
>
> View Your Invoice
> 
>
> Invoice #1301_0734
>
> *Payment to:*
> CyclesGrandBois
> i...@cyclesgrandbois.com
>
> *Shipping address:*
>
>  (my address)
>
>
>
> * Description*
> *Quantity *
> *Price *
> *Amount *
>
> Grandbois tire Cypres700 700x30C STD
> 3 ¥4,000 JPY
> ¥12,000 JPY
>
>
> Subtotal
> ¥12,000 JPY
>
>
> Discount ¥0 JPY
>
>
> Shipping ¥2,500 JPY
>
>
> *Total* ¥14,500 JPY
> *Amount paid*
>   ¥14,500 JPY
> *Amount due*
> ¥0 JPY
>
>
>
> * Payment method*
>
>
>
> VISA x-4672
> $134.28 USD
>
> Exchange rate
> 1 USD = 107.9804 JPY
>
>
> From
> $134.28 USD
>
>
> To
> ¥14,500 JPY
>  PayPal makes money on converting currencies
>
>
> This transaction will appear on your card statement as PAYPAL *GRANDBOIS.
>
>
>
>
> Funds will be available to your recipient on or before: March 4, 2019.
>
> * Description* *Amount*
> Payment amount (in currency funded):
> $134.28 USD
> Your total charge:
> ¥14,500 JPY
> Exchange rate:
> 1 USD = 107.9804 JPY
> PayPal makes money on converting currencies
>
> Payment amount (in currency received):
> ¥14,500 JPY
>
>
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>
>
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Ian A   
> wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> Do you recall what you were charged for postage?
>
> Was just on the GB site and ordering direct seems convenient.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
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Re: [RBW] Re: Converting a Legolas from threadless to threaded/quill

[Tom Goodmann]

Bill, thank you for an excellent analytical inquiry, a lesson in clear
thinking and in asking the right questions.  I prefer the aesthetics of
quill stems and the ease they offer for making small adjustments in height,
but see that the way toward realizing that objective may be expensive.  I'd
be content, then, with a longer steer tube for the threadless stem in order
to have some options using spacers. Like MoVelo, currently I ride with the
bars at a comfortable height reached only via a sloping threadless stem.  A
phone call with Mark Nobilette seems in order.  --Tom

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 3:47 PM MoVelo  wrote:

> I vaguely remember some time back this being a topic. My memory tells me
> there was some concern that the unthreaded 1" tube on the Legolas was too
> thin to thread. Those with better memories can tell me I am right or wrong.
> I too have a lovely Legolas with an unthreaded stem and would prefer a
> threaded version so I can get the bars higher without the awkwardly
> appearance of a steep sloping threadless stem.
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 7:16:32 AM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> This is a great bike, and not so easily found; and with the help of a
>> local friend from this list, the cockpit fits me well at the very limit of
>> spacers.  The steerer was cut too short to my liking by the previous owner,
>> and I am frustrated that the stem is not adjustable, a feature I enjoy with
>> quill stems.  I think the frame was made by Mark Nobilette.  Has anyone
>> converted a threadless steerer to threaded?  What do you think?
>> Appreciative, as ever, of this community.   --Tom in Miami
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Converting a Legolas from threadless to threaded/quill

[Tom Goodmann]

Agreed, Will; that is the best and safest solution.  Thanks, all. Tom

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM William deRosset 
wrote:

> Dear Tom,
>
> Before you break out the tooling and cut threads onto the existing steerer
> (technically possible but not easy to do well, and you'll be cutting the
> steerer), measure the OD and ID of the steerer to ensure that the OD is 1"
> (25.4mm) and the ID is 7/8" (22.2mm) . There are different versions of
> steerer tube for 1" threadless and some are not compatible with being
> threaded--they are too thin-gauge.
>
> You could have Mark build you a fork for the bike. Or Rivendell would
> probably order one for you if you ask.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> On Thursday, August 13, 2020 at 6:16:32 AM UTC-6, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> This is a great bike, and not so easily found; and with the help of a
>> local friend from this list, the cockpit fits me well at the very limit of
>> spacers.  The steerer was cut too short to my liking by the preDear Tvious
>> owner, and I am frustrated that the stem is not adjustable, a feature I
>> enjoy with quill stems.  I think the frame was made by Mark Nobilette.  Has
>> anyone converted a threadless steerer to threaded?  What do you think?
>> Appreciative, as ever, of this community.   --Tom in Miami
>>
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[RBW] Converting a Legolas from threadless to threaded/quill

[Tom Goodmann]

This is a great bike, and not so easily found; and with the help of a local 
friend from this list, the cockpit fits me well at the very limit of 
spacers.  The steerer was cut too short to my liking by the previous owner, 
and I am frustrated that the stem is not adjustable, a feature I enjoy with 
quill stems.  I think the frame was made by Mark Nobilette.  Has anyone 
converted a threadless steerer to threaded?  What do you think?  
Appreciative, as ever, of this community.   --Tom in Miami 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Tom Goodmann]

Just so well written, so well told, Paul; sorry for your tire agonies but
grateful fhe shared experience.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:58 PM Paul Brodek  wrote:

> Gee, thanks guys! Always happy when my pain and suffering provide some
> yucks.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:29:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> +1 on praise for Paul's post--it was the best read, the best laugh, I
>> have enjoyed this week.  And thanks to all of you for sharing your views
>> and information . . . I never *tire *of reading them.  --Tom
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM Jock Dewey  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Paul:
>>>
>>> Your posts are always* the best*, enjoy reading every one of them...and
>>> some of our conversations, too.
>>>
>>> Especially your tire ovations.
>>>
>>> I say this, because it is *important & necessary* that tires look good
>>> and make proper sounds on good pavement. It's the only music I listen to
>>> out on the road.
>>>
>>> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him
>>>> on ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see
>>>> what he may have in stock.
>>>>
>>>> Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent
>>>> covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they switched from EMS to
>>>> DHL when delays kicked in, not sure what they're doing now, but Japan seems
>>>> to be getting back to a quasi-normal.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody's mentioned the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, which are another
>>>> high-zoot Panaracer OE product for a US-based brand/company. I use 'em a
>>>> lot, like 'em a lot. They have std and extralight versions, and are
>>>> generally less expensive than Rene Herse. You can buy direct, might help to
>>>> wait for one of their occasional/seasonal sales if you're not in a rush.
>>>> ModernBike seems to have the lowest everyday price on them.
>>>>
>>>> The Challenge tires are also very nice. Just be aware they are "open
>>>> tubular" design, not vulcanized, so they lay flat against the rim out of
>>>> the package, with no natural upward curve whatsoever. I don't use tubeless
>>>> tires, so I can't compare mounting a Challenge open tubular to those, but I
>>>> can say that Challenge open tubulars are the most difficult tires to mount
>>>> of any tires I've used over the past 10yrs+. I'm cranky and stubborn, and
>>>> only when death is the only other alternative (yes, I'm exaggerating) will
>>>> I use tire irons to mount a tire, but I've come close with Challenge. I
>>>> recently got some fat, puffy Strada Bianca Pros, and they look just
>>>> beautiful, but every time I look at them I can almost feel palm and thumb
>>>> pain again. Once they've gone on, and had some time inflated, subsequent
>>>> mounting isn't inordinately difficult, but the first time is a real bear. I
>>>> recently got a Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack to spare my palms and thumbs next
>>>> time around.
>>>>
>>>> [image: 49837732981_ce1b8c5de4_c.jpg]
>>>> I'll also say that tire mounting experience is akin to flatting
>>>> experience, in that it is a certainty that someone else thinks mounting
>>>> Challenge tires is easey-peasey, they never have a problem. ("Tire X is a
>>>> flat magnet!" "I ride mine thousands of miles and never get a flat." Like
>>>> that...) One man's death fit is another's no sweat. But Challenge does see
>>>> the need to have a video on their website showing their preferred mounting
>>>> technique. And boy howdy the dude in the video doesn't seem to struggle
>>>> like I do. I've bought more than one pair near-new from somebody on a forum
>>>> who gave up trying to install them. So it ain't just me.
>>>>
>>>> But they are dead sexy.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Brodek
>>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to
>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Tom Goodmann]

+1 on praise for Paul's post--it was the best read, the best laugh, I have
enjoyed this week.  And thanks to all of you for sharing your views and
information . . . I never *tire *of reading them.  --Tom

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:31 PM Jock Dewey  wrote:

> Hey, Paul:
>
> Your posts are always* the best*, enjoy reading every one of them...and
> some of our conversations, too.
>
> Especially your tire ovations.
>
> I say this, because it is *important & necessary* that tires look good
> and make proper sounds on good pavement. It's the only music I listen to
> out on the road.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:35:52 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>> You can order from Scott in Mpls, as already mentioned, or buy from him
>> on ebay. He's always got listings for tires there, makes it handy to see
>> what he may have in stock.
>>
>> Ordering direct from Grand Bois has been mostly smooth for me. Recent
>> covid-related shipping issues have cropped up, they switched from EMS to
>> DHL when delays kicked in, not sure what they're doing now, but Japan seems
>> to be getting back to a quasi-normal.
>>
>> Nobody's mentioned the Soma Supple Vitesse tires, which are another
>> high-zoot Panaracer OE product for a US-based brand/company. I use 'em a
>> lot, like 'em a lot. They have std and extralight versions, and are
>> generally less expensive than Rene Herse. You can buy direct, might help to
>> wait for one of their occasional/seasonal sales if you're not in a rush.
>> ModernBike seems to have the lowest everyday price on them.
>>
>> The Challenge tires are also very nice. Just be aware they are "open
>> tubular" design, not vulcanized, so they lay flat against the rim out of
>> the package, with no natural upward curve whatsoever. I don't use tubeless
>> tires, so I can't compare mounting a Challenge open tubular to those, but I
>> can say that Challenge open tubulars are the most difficult tires to mount
>> of any tires I've used over the past 10yrs+. I'm cranky and stubborn, and
>> only when death is the only other alternative (yes, I'm exaggerating) will
>> I use tire irons to mount a tire, but I've come close with Challenge. I
>> recently got some fat, puffy Strada Bianca Pros, and they look just
>> beautiful, but every time I look at them I can almost feel palm and thumb
>> pain again. Once they've gone on, and had some time inflated, subsequent
>> mounting isn't inordinately difficult, but the first time is a real bear. I
>> recently got a Kool Stop Tire Bead Jack to spare my palms and thumbs next
>> time around.
>>
>> [image: 49837732981_ce1b8c5de4_c.jpg]
>> I'll also say that tire mounting experience is akin to flatting
>> experience, in that it is a certainty that someone else thinks mounting
>> Challenge tires is easey-peasey, they never have a problem. ("Tire X is a
>> flat magnet!" "I ride mine thousands of miles and never get a flat." Like
>> that...) One man's death fit is another's no sweat. But Challenge does see
>> the need to have a video on their website showing their preferred mounting
>> technique. And boy howdy the dude in the video doesn't seem to struggle
>> like I do. I've bought more than one pair near-new from somebody on a forum
>> who gave up trying to install them. So it ain't just me.
>>
>> But they are dead sexy.
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>> I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to
>>> have been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still
>>> be obtained outside the U.S..  Any recommendations for near-equivalents?
>>> (Labeled as 700 x 30, but seem to measure out closer to 32).  Thanks in
>>> advance for any recommendations.  Tom, Miami
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne
>>> Legolas
>>> Goodrich-built 650b prototype
>>> '94 RBT
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Eric; thanks, Ray. I just found an April 22nd post about Scott 
Davis, and so can get them via him or his ebay site, as well as the Compass 
tires.  I ride Barlow Pass 38s on the Legolas, and like them very much.

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to have 
> been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still be 
> obtained outside the U.S..  Any recommendations for near-equivalents?  
> (Labeled as 700 x 30, but seem to measure out closer to 32).  Thanks in 
> advance for any recommendations.  Tom, Miami  
>
> Sam Hillborne
> Legolas
> Goodrich-built 650b prototype
> '94 RBT
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[RBW] Grand Bois Cypres 700 x 30 substitutes?

[Tom Goodmann]

I've long enjoyed the suppleness of these tires, but they seem not to have 
been available in the U.S. now for some years; I think they can still be 
obtained outside the U.S..  Any recommendations for near-equivalents?  
(Labeled as 700 x 30, but seem to measure out closer to 32).  Thanks in 
advance for any recommendations.  Tom, Miami  

Sam Hillborne
Legolas
Goodrich-built 650b prototype
'94 RBT

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Nice build, Chris! What are those tires? Very impressive on this bike--and
I like the Deore V-brakes idea; I might try that.  Tom

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:35 PM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mine is set up with a mix of Shimano components, 9 speed indexed with
> bar-end shifters. I recently swapped the cantilever brakes out for Deore
> V-brakes. The braking performance was immensely improved. I could never get
> rid of brake shudder in the fork with cantilevers. Here's a slightly
> outdated pic. I've changed the seatpost and saddle since then.
>
> <https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bDt8rKW/0/2d884bd3/O/i-bDt8rKW.jpg>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:13:29 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> Chris, what's your set-up on the Heron?  I agree; like anything Riv, you
>> can ask so many things of this bike and one thing you always get is the joy
>> of riding it.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:36 PM Christopher Cote 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have the exact same bike, it is a really wonderful, underrated
>>> machine. I don't ride mine enough, and think about selling it every now and
>>> then, but I take it for a ride and all thoughts of parting with it
>>> evaporate. It's 90% the same as a 58cm Atlantis at a fraction of the cost.
>>> Whoever snaps this up is getting a steal!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron
>>>> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and
>>>> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm
>>>> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser
>>>> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend
>>>> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed
>>>> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour
>>>> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino
>>>> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake
>>>> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or
>>>> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and
>>>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please
>>>> see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of
>>>> information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted
>>>> Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with
>>>> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795
>>>> + shipping & insurance
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Chris, what's your set-up on the Heron?  I agree; like anything Riv, you
can ask so many things of this bike and one thing you always get is the joy
of riding it.

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christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the exact same bike, it is a really wonderful, underrated machine.
> I don't ride mine enough, and think about selling it every now and then,
> but I take it for a ride and all thoughts of parting with it evaporate.
> It's 90% the same as a 58cm Atlantis at a fraction of the cost. Whoever
> snaps this up is getting a steal!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]
>>
>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron
>> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and
>> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm
>> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser
>> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend
>> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed
>> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour
>> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino
>> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake
>> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or
>> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and
>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please
>> see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of
>> information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted
>> Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with
>> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795
>> + shipping & insurance
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Shipping from 33155, by the way.

On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]
>
> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron 
> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and 
> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm 
> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser 
> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend 
> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed 
> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour 
> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino 
> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake 
> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or 
> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and 
> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please 
> see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of 
> information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted 
> Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with 
> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795 
> + shipping & insurance
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Re: [RBW] FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Miami 33155--I'll put that in the ad; thanks for the reminder.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM Karl  wrote:

> Where are you located Tom?
>
> Karl
> Nashville, TN
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[RBW] FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

 

[image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]

I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron 
Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and 
saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm 
tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser 
(winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend 
rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed 
cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour 
front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino 
crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake 
levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or 
dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and 
underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please 
see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of 
information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted 
Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with 
care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795 
+ shipping & insurance

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[RBW] Re: WTB 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne

[Tom Goodmann]

Will send you a PM on a green one, 60 cm.  --Tom

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 3:26:38 PM UTC-5, nathan wrote:
>
> I got excited about the Frank concept and was ready to buy, but sadly 
> couldn't snag a 59 in time.
>
> So… is anyone selling a 60 Quickbeam or SimpleOne? I'd be able to pickup 
> in SF or Reno-Tahoe, and would consider shipping too.
>
> Nathan
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[RBW] Re: 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks to all for your views and offers; I've ordered a pair of the 
Hutchinsons, and look forward to trying them out. I've not yet tried 
running tires without tubes--something new--that would go toward my idea to 
make this a lighter build.  It may well be, as it seems so far, the One 
Bike to Rule Them All. --Tom

On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 6:34:00 AM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote:
>
> I'll sell you a pair of these: 650x36, 
> http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/T650_F35_SS.html
> extra leger, red. Mounted once. $110 shipped
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 9:26:47 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> I'm the current happy rider of a Curt Goodrich-built Proto Saluki (my 
>> friend from this list and I have already traded the bike back and forth 
>> once between us) shod with Gran Bois 42s.  It's a nimble and quick-turning, 
>> and I'd like to play around with tire sizes a bit to see how "roady" I can 
>> ride it.  I would like to have tried the 32s once offered from Compass, and 
>> wonder why 650b tires of that dimension proved undesirable. Those tires, at 
>> least, are currently unavailable, although I know there are nominal 38s 
>> (Pacenti Moro; Col la Vie) and a few 35s out there too. Is the general 
>> thinking that I'd be giving up too much of the advantage of this wheel size 
>> in pushing the lower limits of tire dimensions?  Thanks for views and 
>> advice. Tom--in Miami where it is perfect riding weather right now
>>
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[RBW] 650b tires: the fat and the skinny about them?

[Tom Goodmann]

I'm the current happy rider of a Curt Goodrich-built Proto Saluki (my 
friend from this list and I have already traded the bike back and forth 
once between us) shod with Gran Bois 42s.  It's a nimble and quick-turning, 
and I'd like to play around with tire sizes a bit to see how "roady" I can 
ride it.  I would like to have tried the 32s once offered from Compass, and 
wonder why 650b tires of that dimension proved undesirable. Those tires, at 
least, are currently unavailable, although I know there are nominal 38s 
(Pacenti Moro; Col la Vie) and a few 35s out there too. Is the general 
thinking that I'd be giving up too much of the advantage of this wheel size 
in pushing the lower limits of tire dimensions?  Thanks for views and 
advice. Tom--in Miami where it is perfect riding weather right now

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne

[Tom Goodmann]

On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> A 56 Sam in excellent condition, ridden without beausage: really, not a 
> mark on it.  Standard Riv build with Albatross bars, Silver bar-end 
> shifters, Misha's cork grips. $1500 plus shipping for complete bike, sold 
> with fenders (never mounted), sans the Brooks and the MKS pedals; $800 for 
> f/f/hs/bb.  Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/? 
>  Please PM, per list policies; thanks. Tom in Miami
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne

[Tom Goodmann]

BTW, double TT, as evident in the photos, and a size no longer offered for 
this model.

On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-5, Thom Goodmann wrote:
>
> A 56 Sam in excellent condition, ridden without beausage: really, not a 
> mark on it.  Standard Riv build with Albatross bars, Silver bar-end 
> shifters, Misha's cork grips. $1500 plus shipping for complete bike, sold 
> with fenders (never mounted), sans the Brooks and the MKS pedals; $800 for 
> f/f/hs/bb.  Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/132838700@N02/? 
>  Please PM, per list policies; thanks. Tom in Miami
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Re: [RBW] Re: 59 cm Legolas on CList near me; $1400 f/f/hs

[Tom Goodmann]

Happy purchaser here; the seller worked with me nicely on the price when I 
asked him to reconsider, and he looked again at the recent eBay Legolas 
sale so, after all, no huge mark-up from the previous sale, and a pretty 
rare Riv, too.

--Thom in Miami

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 1:52:18 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> So it was sold there for $950 in 2013? 
> Buy low, sell high!
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Rob H. > 
> wrote:
>
>> http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=1278106
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 3:48:05 PM UTC-7, EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bop/5200579273.html
>>>
>>> No affiliation w/ seller, but I'm happy to help if needed.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Sasha. Thrilled about this!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM, sasha eysymontt  wrote:

> Sold, thanks Tom!
>
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:32:16 PM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> Sasha, I'll take it!  Tom
>>
>> more later back at my computer!
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[RBW] fs: 59cm rivendell all-rounder.

[Tom Goodmann]

Sasha, I'll take it!  Tom 

more later back at my computer!

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[RBW] Re: Ram as a light tourer-your experiences?

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, all, for a discussion that confirms my current effort to buy a Ram 
frame and fork. I've been looking for a Heron Road, enjoying a Heron 
Touring model already (though not as carefully built up as yours, Olof 
Stroh).  I got no response to my replies to a CL post for a 58 Heron Road, 
but am now after a 60 Ram, getting ready to move on from an RB-T, as I 
think the Rambouillet will fit me better.  I plan to build it up lightly 
for longer local rides, anticipating the flexibility that it shares with 
other Rivs. Now, to close the deal!  --Tom (Miami, FL)

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Re: [RBW] Fishing for a Heron

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Mike; I've saved this information.  Looks like a couple of sizes 
will work for me with regard to a Road/Rally or Randonneur.  --Tom

On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:47:16 AM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:
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>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20090510044006/http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html
>  
>  
> The #1 Worst Carb Ever? 
> Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat 
> This!) 
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54c3b066ecc5c30650dc0st03duc 
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[RBW] Fishing for a Heron

[Tom Goodmann]

I'm so happy commuting on a 59 cm Heron Touring bike (acquired from a 
certain auction site) that I am on the hunt for a Road/Rally (60 cm, I 
think), or Randonneuring model (can't find a geo chart for this model), in 
case anyone has one for potential sale, either as f/f etc, or as a complete 
bike.

Thanks for any leads and suggestions~

Tom (in Miami, where a so-called "cold front" tonight will send temps 
plummeting into the 50s)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks for sharing, David; nice write-up.  --Tom  . . . still hot in Miami

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Marc Irwin  wrote:

> I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of
>> photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look.
>> 
>
> I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just go
> together.
> It's fixed.
>
> Marc
>
> On Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:46:26 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Linkity-link doesn't work...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>
>>> I finally took the time to post a recap of the weekend with a bunch of
 photos on my blog if anybody wants to take a look
 
 .
>>>
>>> I certainly enjoyed the weekend lugged steel, bondage and expresso just
>>> go together.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

[Tom Goodmann]

Sounds like a wonderful weekend, describing a potential future for so many
communities to begin planning and building as MSP has already done, and
continues to do.  Miami has less infrastructure, and not nearly such a
well-developed bicycling culture, but we're getting there via efforts such
as Critical Mass rides, places such as Magic City Bicycle Collective, and
groups such as Emerge Miami.  Also, we get somewhat less snow than the Twin
Cities. :)  --a fact that makes such a commitment from the MSP community
all the more impressive.  Wish I could have made it there!  --Tom  Miami, FL

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> We broke the MCBR weekend into 4 parts. Friday night we rode to a Saint
> Paul establishment for dinner and drinks. I think there were around 15 of
> us at the start. There were at least two Rivs in attendance: Marc's
> gorgeous Hunq and Tim's first-year Riv Road. Lillian was riding a San
> Marcos. Hope I'm not forgetting anyone. The rest of the group was riding
> various other brands of "Country Bike".
>
> Saturday morning, we tested several fat bike models on some dirt trails in
> Fort Snelling state park. Some park employees and other passersby  came
> over to try the bikes. The new Surly Ice Cream Truck seemed to be a hit.
> Highlight for me: My wife's non-cycling 61yo aunt rode the XS ICT over some
> challenging off-trail terrain and smiled the whole time.
>
> Saturday afternoon, the group rode a section of the Minnesota River
> Bottoms. This is basically a mostly flat, non-technical dirt trail along
> the Minnesota River. The trail is unofficial and mostly maintained by
> volunteers. Unfortunately, the state park people recently "cleared" the
> portion of the trail that runs through the park. Their hearts were in the
> right place, but it looks like they used a bulldozer, and just pushed sand
> and trees around, leaving the trail worse for the wear in places. Most of
> us were on fat bikes or mountain bikes, but Sean showed up with a Hilsen
> and JB tires, which handled the dirt with ease, and made the rest of us
> feel kinda silly.
>
> Sunday was the pavement ride. We started from HC, and followed the
> Minnehaha Creek bike trail to the Minneapolis chain of lakes. One of the
> ride participants lost her wallet and phone the night before at an ice
> cream shop in Uptown, so we stopped there to ask if they'd found it.
> Luckily, they had, and everything seemed to be in order. We had a small
> conference on where to go next, and decided to head to a nearby coffee shop
> that features a gay leather/bondage theme. I restocked my supply of
> leather-scented body wash. So that was fun. From there, we hit the Bryant
> Ave bikeway, Loring Park, Downtown Minneapolis, Nicollet Mall, Hennepin Ave
> bridge, Saint Anthony Main, Stone Arch Bridge, University of Minnesota, the
> new Dinkytown greenway, U of MN transitway, Como Park, Frogtown, downtown
> Saint Paul, then across the river to climb the infamous Ohio St hill,
> Cherokee Park, followed by a thrilling descent on Hwy 13 into Mendota. I
> said my goodbyes and headed home from there, happy to have shown the riders
> such a broad cross-section of the Twin Cities amazing cycling opportunities.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Was Redemption, now fly fishing

[Tom Goodmann]

"Like.  A lot."  Nice photo, Ron.  (If I am right about what I see, I'd
guess that not many here may know the significance of that reel in relation
to your identity elsewhere!)

Tom
Miami


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

>
> 
>
> gratuitous fish photo
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:15:25 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote:
>>
>> I don't fly fish but I do fish. I do a bunch of pan fishing using a 7
>> foot ultralight pole, 2 or 4lb line and a spinning reel.
>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 11:12:24 AM UTC-5, Roy Drinkwater wrote:
>>>
>>>  The Redemption topic got me thinking about how many RBW members fly
>>> fish.  I know that Grant fishes, but how many others?  Fly fishing seems
>>> like a natural hobby along with good bikes, right?
>>>
>>> Roy Drinkwater
>>> Lititz, PA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam is built...AMAZING

[Tom Goodmann]

Nice-looking build; really clean lines (and, yes, a clean bike for now!) 
Enjoy--I'm on my Sam nearly every day.  Congrats. 

--Tom


On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:43:37 AM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Congrats Jon!
>
> Grab every moment and get some miles on that bike!
>
> enjoy, enjoy!
>
> - Jim
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[RBW] Re: Was Redemption, now fly fishing

[Tom Goodmann]

I started out combining the two with a multipiece strapped to my old LeTour 
while attending grad school in Indiana, where I first saw someone fly 
fishing in a small lake, and thought it the coolest activity I'd ever seen. 
 I still bikefish in Miami--there's a canal or a lake in a park nearly 
everywhere you turn--and always keep an old glass rod in the car on my way 
to anywhere around the area.  Biking aside, this summer I fished for a day 
while in Iceland for a meeting, catching many small brown trout on the 
Varma south of Reykjavik.  Am now just back from Montana, where I attended 
a Project Healing Waters benefit with Greg Brown performing; we fished the 
upper Big Blackfoot, where we caught lots of beautiful West Slope cutts, 
and then Hound Creek where it runs through one of those huge ranch 
properties--lots of browns, a few up up to 20 inches. Wow.  All of us 
fishing cane rods, the fly fishing analog to lugged steel frames!

Tom 
Miami, FL

On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:59:36 AM UTC-4, doc wrote:
>
> Living near both the Letort and the Yellow Breeches, I noticed the 
> similarities between country biking and fly fishing years ago.  
> Gear-centric focused on classic design, a Zen-like emphasis on getting 
> things just right to achieve balance, a certain "uniform" that is readily 
> recognized, and a focus on the journey rather than the 
> destination/objective.
>  
> As for me, I have a Popeil Pocket Fisherman because I'm only permitted to 
> have one expensive hobby at a time.
>  
>
> On Monday, August 11, 2014 12:12:24 PM UTC-4, Roy Drinkwater wrote:
>
>>  The Redemption topic got me thinking about how many RBW members fly 
>> fish.  I know that Grant fishes, but how many others?  Fly fishing seems 
>> like a natural hobby along with good bikes, right?
>>
>> Roy Drinkwater
>> Lititz, PA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Collection of The Rivendell Reader + 4 catalogues: $20

[Tom Goodmann]

Thought I PM'd you yesterday, but maybe I missed out?  --Tom

On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:33:44 PM UTC-4, Tom Rooker wrote:
>
> I am selling my eternally amusing collection of The Rivendell Reader. 
>  Issues are:
> RR-9: When Box Kites Blackened The Skies; RR-10: How Cameras & Binoculars 
> Used To Smell; RR-11: When Kids Ate Walnuts and Feared Quicksand; RR-12: 
> When German Shepherds Were Called Police Dogs; RR-16: I Don't Care What 
> They Say, I Won't Stay In A World Without Lugs; RR-17: When Kids Brushed 
> With Gleem And Parents Drank MJB; RR-18: When Blinky Thumped The Gut Bass 
> And Soloed For A While; RR-19: When "Orange Roughy" Might Have Meant A 
> Number OF Things; RR-20: When Only Rich Kids With Buck Teeth Got Braces; 
> RR-22: And I Think To Myself, What A Wonderful Wool; RR23: When Band-Aids 
> Came IN Tins; RR-24: When Abercrombie & Fitch...; Two RR-25s: Life Before 
> Leaf Blowers; RR-26: When Rope Swings Didn't Get Chopped Down; RR27: When 
> Kids Chewed Tar and Chased the Bug Truck; RR28: When Scriptwriters Knew The 
> Difference Between "Nauseated" And "Nauseous"; RR-29: When Pooh Was in Book 
> Only: RR-30: When "Spam" Meant One Thing: Good Lunch!; RR-31: Touring In 
> The Vicinity of Voo-Doo Specialists; RR-32:When Song Censors Worried About 
> Louie Louie; RR-36: The Poison In The Middle Of a Golf Ball; RR-37: When 
> Everybody Knew Somebody Who Brushed With Gleem; RR-38: When Kids Knew Their 
> Knots; RR-39: Brushing Out The Maypo With Ipana.  Summer 1999 Catalogue #5; 
> Spring 2001 Catalogue #8; The Nigel Tweed Catalogues of 2006 - the Green 
> issue and the Bluegrey.
> 28 total (there are two #25 issues).  The $20 covers boxing them up, the 
> postage, the round trip to the post office and the time spent typing this 
> list :) Domestic sales, unless someone wants to pay for overseas - but why?
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[RBW] Re: Used (Vince's) 60cm Betty Foy at Rivbike

[Tom Goodmann]

The Betty and the 59 San Marcos didn't last long!  --Tom (Miami)

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day

[Tom Goodmann]

Please tell us more about the frame, Anne; it's radically simple lines are 
beautiful.  Also looks ready for anything, including biking on the moon. 
 Very cool--I am going to use this picture in a summer course--, "On Two 
Wheels," a parallel history of the bicycle and motorcycle.  Thanks for 
sharing; nice to see a revived use of the Thudbuster, too.  I respect your 
"bicycle priorities"!   --Tom  (Miami; yep, beautiful again, but the rains 
will be back soon enough)

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[RBW] Re: A case for clearance and canti's

[Tom Goodmann]

What a season it has been up there!  Our son is dying to re-injure himself 
in cyclocross . . .  Nice build; I benefited from the same deal on those 
framesets a year ago, and am still learning happily from the Sam, as it is 
different from any bike I've ever owned. I'm eager to try it with drops, 
though now it cruises with Albatross bars, per Riv build kit, and I do 
appreciate 'em.  --Tom/ rainy in Miami today . . . maybe it is time to 
mount those fenders

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:39:18 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote:
>
> I am sure it felt good to get out and try your SH. The bike looks good. 
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: The hills are calling and they are green

[Tom Goodmann]

Looks like a fine time was had by all.  I like the night shots, though my 
favorite are those you got of various people hatching from tents.  Nice to 
see that area green again.

Tom (Miami)


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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Riv Photos from Google Search

[Tom Goodmann]

Gasp!  Excellent, truly excellent.  Thanks for sharing.  --Tom


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Marty  wrote:

> If you like headbadges...I need a Cheviot badge to complete an update to
> this. I have a couple other variations that did not make the cut last time.
> (Still waiting for the Appaloosa.) Anyone have a Cheviot that can take a
> nice pic?
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[RBW] Re: Nice Riv Photos from Google Search

[Tom Goodmann]

Riv-eting . . . very cool; thanks for sharing.  Not least among the 
pleasures of these bicycles are there aesthetic qualities, including a 
remarkable variety in the catalogue to date.  --Tom (Miami, where we had a 
tornado watch yesterday; weird)


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[RBW] Re: A lugged steel boomerang? My Hillborne is back!

[Tom Goodmann]

Great story, Bill; thanks for providing some of the pictorial history too. 
 Just in from work on a double TT blue Sam, nearing its first year since 
purchase from Headquarters; if you have to go to work, that is a good way 
to go.  --Tom (Miami; yep, beautiful day again)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr

[Tom Goodmann]

That 650B QB sounds interesting; I'd love to try one of those sometime.
 Does it yield a bit more clearance, then, in terms of potential toe
overlap?  --Tom


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Steven Frederick  wrote:

> My QB is one of the 650b-wheeled versions from the last run of silver
> models and it rocks with Hetres, and rolls with PariMotos.  B-)
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Philip Williamson <
> philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do like fat tires on the Quickbeam! The rear axle position becomes an
>> important consideration, though, and you find that darumas are from the
>> devil.
>> If we ever get any rain in California again, I'll see how the metal
>> fenders fit over the 37mm Ocean Air / Soma C-lines. It should be fine.
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>> On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:25:36 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> Inspired by the ride of the 42mm Grand Bois Hetres on my Bleriot, I
>>> spent a couple of hours today changing out the tires on my Quickbeam from
>>> the 700x28 size I've been using forever to a set of 700x35s (Paselas,
>>> purchased from another member of this list).
>>>
>>> Changing the tires was no big deal. The bulk of the time was spent
>>> adjusting the fenders to fit around the fatter rubber. That involved, among
>>> other things, using a Dremel to cut off the protruding end of the daruma
>>> bolt that holds the front fender onto the fork crown. Yes, the 35s needed
>>> every millimeter of clearance I could get (the rear wheel wouldn't even
>>> spin when I first put it in, due to a lack of clearance, even though the
>>> 28s had gobs of room).
>>>
>>> Results are in the photos here:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639957181314/
>>>
>>> I haven't had a chance to ride it yet, other that a spin up and down the
>>> block, but from an appearance standpoint alone it was worth it. The fatter
>>> tires certainly fill out the fenders much better.
>>>
>>> Ride report once I've had a chance to get it on the road.
>>>
>>>  --Eric
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> www.campyonly.com
>>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>>> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

[Tom Goodmann]

Do keep sharing! The frame and fork alone make the thing look like it is in 
motion, standing still.--Tom (Miami)

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Gets Fatter - a set on Flickr

[Tom Goodmann]

>
>
> 35 Paselas are what I ride on my new-to-me QB, and I like 'em a lot on the 
> road . . . though I will go fatter still for some trail/levee riding 
> (almost totally level) in the near future.  --Tom (Miami, where the weather 
> for winter riding is about perfect right now)
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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

[Tom Goodmann]

At this early point, then, Jim, a simple "Thanks!" for putting the idea out 
there.  Momentum will build, no doubt.  Tom (Miami, for which you don't 
want to know the forecast today)

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:00:20 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in 
> the Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.
>
> I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a 
> meet-and-greet at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding 
> around the twin cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis 
> near the airport and light rail line, will be the center of the action. 
> That's the extent of the itinerary at this point.
>
> If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and 
> ship it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, 
> I may charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping 
> charges. No charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for 
> your bike, and you arrange your own shipping.
>
> You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on 
> whether your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike 
> friendliness, etc. I am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back 
> yard. I hope other local Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, 
> backyards, and other forms of hospitality to our visitors.
>
> I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 
> months to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If 
> you're enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you 
> still have some enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of 
> over-committing to summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past 
> experience suggests that if you and I spend several hours emailing back and 
> forth, answering every question you can think of in January, there's an 
> approximately 0% chance of you being able to make the trip in September. If 
> you think you're actually going to come, then please ask your questions. If 
> you're on the fence - that's cool, you have plenty of time to decide - 
> please keep the correspondence to a minimum until you're more committed to 
> coming.
>
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[RBW] Re: How cold was your first day ride?

[Tom Goodmann]

Miami, FL: 81 degrees; 70% humidity.  Baby, it isn't cold out there; I 
remember other cool, blustery New Year's rides. Quickbeam.

On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:38:33 AM UTC-5, Bill Fulford wrote:
>
> Kennebunk Maine, 19 degrees, felt like 4. Baby it's cold out there. Rode 
> the Hunqapillar and enjoyed the ride.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My new-to-me 'Beamer

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks, Minh, and all; I'm really happy with this one, so glad that Frank
offered it to me here locally.  Our South Florida roads are--ahem--not the
most friendly for bicyclists, but the cycling community here is more active
each year, and the weather is mostly cooperative, rain being the only
natural hazard (and the occasional hurricane).  Everything I have read
about the QB feels spot-on: it just makes you want to go, and it may well
become (as Frank predicts) my daily commuter.  The Pasela 35s feel good,
but I will try bigger tires too--he had Conti Cross tires on it, I think,
which made me want to find paved trails, or more challenging terrain.  BTW,
very impressive, Ray Shine, that you can ride Mt. Tam on the QB--suddenly,
it's an All-Rounder!  (As any bike can be--the "engine" being a big factor,
as GP offers in *Just Ride*).  So far, in this flat terrain, 40/17 gives me
an easy-going ride, and I think I'll appreciate a 16 in back to let me dig
a bit deeper.  This is a great bike; will post more photos as I sort it
out; it's a well-chosen green, to boot. Thanks, Rivfolk.  --Tom



On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Minh  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Congrats on the new-to-you-QB.  it's always nice to see a matching green
> one finding a new home.  My build is very similiar to yours with the Pauls
> brakes, dos eno fw.  Mine came with moustache bars (the old style) which i
> really liked because they were aggressive and responsive.  i swapped them
> out for albatross bars just to see the difference and never went back.  i
> love the laid back position for cruising and the curves for out of the
> saddle climbing.  with the moustache (and i would think drops) i always
> felt the need to 'go faster' with the alba it feels more relaxed and i ride
> more, enjoy it more.
> enjoy yours! i wish it wasn't so darn cold here so i could ride mine today!
>
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2013 3:50:23 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to listmember Frank Neff, who delivered this beautiful Quickbeam
>> about forty-eight hours ago, building it up right here at the house using
>> Open Pro rims, Pasela 35s (from listmember Anne up in Michigan; thanks) and
>> Paul Touring brakes I had sourced elsewhere--come to think of it, the
>> bars/stem/levers are from this list or the BOB list.  It takes an e-village
>> . . . .
>>
>> I'm not settled yet on bars (or colors of saddle and bar tape)--the bike
>> will likely have Moustache or Albastaches sooner or later--but, oh, does it
>> ride nicely!  Running 40/34 up front and 17 in the rear . . . and looking
>> at the Dos Eno 16/18 for the other side of this wheel.
>>
>> Happy New Year, indeed.  --Tom Miami, FL
>>
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[RBW] Re: I like!

[Tom Goodmann]

Ja! for some reason, I've been hankering for a Legolas these last few 
weeks.  These photos a) deepen the respect; b) heighten the hankerin'! 
Thanks for sharing, Patrick.
--Tom in Miami (where it was a perfect day)

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:47:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> ...and wish I could afford! The perfect all rounders!
>
> From Blug (sorry, don't know how to comment on-blug, so y'all'll have to 
> hear it here.
>
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[RBW] Re: Need collectives help on color choice.

[Tom Goodmann]

Of the two choices, my vote is for the burnt orange; I agree that the cream 
accents would look great (but more $). --Tom in Miami


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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

[Tom Goodmann]

+1 on that point, Ron: I always feel like a happy kid again on a bike,
every single time. And I am never happier than when on a stream with family
and friends, or alone, as well.  Rules?  Fun to make; fun to break among
aficionados of various spots and stripes. As I think has been said on this
forum, riding a steel-frame bike is kind of like choosing to fish a split
cane rod. It's a preference, a choice that feels good for me, and brings me
in contact with very good folks on the road and on the water.  My
priorities include improving my skills, and introducing others to these two
pleasures of fly fishing and cycling (and all the various maladies
attendant).

By the way, I've seen both of those enjoyable episodes in which you appear,
Ron; some on this list may not know that in the world of vintage fly
tackle, you are a widely respected authority on fly reels, in particular,
able to turn "clunk" into smooth clicking again, and very generous with
your knowledge. It helps to know How Things Work!  --Tom (Miami, where
there's bass water everywhere)


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Sorry to maintain this fly fishing and bicycling analogy, but it is
> apropos.  HG Wells said, *"Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no
> longer despair for the future of the human race."  *
> Contagion is the key.  If you're a contagious bicyclist, or a contagious
> fly fisherman, it's because you turn into a kid when you're practicing your
> affiction.
> You're an affictionado.
> The absolute best times I've ever had fishing were filming episodes of TU
> On The Rise, and KT Diaries, because the people I was fishing with were
> just like me - we all turned into kids and had fun above all else.
>
>
> 
>
> me on the left, Frank Smethurst in the middle, Jimbo Roberts on the right.
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2013 12:48:44 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> I'll be working on #5 for the foreseeable future.
>>
>> I thought The Rules were very well written, with a clear sense of
>> respectful silliness. I'm happy my riding mates are accepting of anyone
>> willing to ride ten miles on a bike. The ride leader adheres to every rule
>> (I mean Rule), with a clear focus on helpfulness and complete composure on
>> the bike. I sidestep most of the Rules by riding a "road" bike with discs
>> and 60mm Big Apples that I've only ever heard referred to as "that thing,"
>> as in, "you climb pretty fast on that thing," which means slower than the
>> fast guys, faster than the slow guys, and about on par with the fit woman
>> on the full suspension mountain bike.
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

[Tom Goodmann]

I relish the smirks that meet the drop of the kickstand on my Sam!  Better
than leaning it against a light pole in a coffee stand parking lot crowded
with "crabon" bikes, as BikeSnobNYC likes to call them.  Nice photo, Ron Mc!



On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Don't have time to plow thru all The Rules at the moment (got about
> one-third of the way before getting a bit bored) but do they mention
> kickstands?  We have a subversive group in our bike club that delights in
> parking our bikes on kickstands, if plain site of the carbonic armada.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:55:28 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> By far one of my favorite bike blogs to read. Kinda of bias since I'm
>> friends with these gentlemen.
>> But nevertheless fun read.
>>
>> http://www.boyzonthehoods.com/**lets-talk-about-the-rules/#**comment-278
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

[Tom Goodmann]

Right on all counts, Mike: we can all just ride. I think "The Rules" are
pretty funny too--and likely read so for many "followers," though maybe not
for all.  It has been great to see the cycling community here in Miami
become a) much more visible and b) much more varied in recent years,
including (just to name a few) bike polo players (who started up a local
bike collective repair shop), a strong fixed-gear set; weekend fast club
riders; students of all stripes; people who use a bike to get around, per
need. A pretty good mix is now more evident of ages, ethnicities, genders,
budgets--and bikes.  I just happen to be among those who have discarded
carbon (and aluminum), reducing my rides to steel. And yet the number of
bikes has multiplied!?  I do appreciate the rule that says the ideal number
of bikes is n + 1 . . . .


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Tom Goodmann  wrote:

> I relish the smirks that meet the drop of the kickstand on my Sam!  Better
> than leaning it against a light pole in a coffee stand parking lot crowded
> with "crabon" bikes, as BikeSnobNYC likes to call them.  Nice photo, Ron Mc!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Don't have time to plow thru all The Rules at the moment (got about
>> one-third of the way before getting a bit bored) but do they mention
>> kickstands?  We have a subversive group in our bike club that delights in
>> parking our bikes on kickstands, if plain site of the carbonic armada.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:55:28 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>>
>>> By far one of my favorite bike blogs to read. Kinda of bias since I'm
>>> friends with these gentlemen.
>>> But nevertheless fun read.
>>>
>>> http://www.boyzonthehoods.com/**lets-talk-about-the-rules/#**comment-278<http://www.boyzonthehoods.com/lets-talk-about-the-rules/#comment-278>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Talk about the rules

[Tom Goodmann]

Thanks for the link--enjoyable. And the "Velominati" made me laugh, as 
well; The Rules seem quaint, from sometime before blood doping etc blew the 
Tour wide open, and not where cycling is headed now, world-over.

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:55:28 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> By far one of my favorite bike blogs to read. Kinda of bias since I'm 
> friends with these gentlemen.
> But nevertheless fun read.
>
> http://www.boyzonthehoods.com/lets-talk-about-the-rules/#comment-278
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Summer is over...(For me anyway)

[Tom Goodmann]

Great pictures, as always, Manny--and I love seeing that XO-4 out and about 
in the world!


On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:04:23 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Spectacular outing, Manny. I love the random meet-up on Mt. Diablo.  Yup, 
> Autumn's nippin' in the air here and leaves are starting to change. You'll 
> have ghost stories to tell your kids when school starts. There is an old 
> pool on an old dilapidated ranch. Strange noises eminate from the deep, far 
> corner of the pool, tickling the ear as a iced wind of all who are near. If 
> you should ever be unfortunate to hear it's tantalizing snare, you too will 
> at once feel its beacon and its chill...
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:26:12 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> One last hurrah before teaching takes over my life again.
>> During the birthday camping a few of us talked about going out and doing 
>> one last summer campout. What better way to finish the summer then with a 
>> trip to an abandon ranch on Mt.Diablo, the summer mountain!
>>
>> Like always great rides start with something dumb happening.
>> Before jumping on Bart, Dav, Brencho and I stopped by the local taco 
>> truck to get a quick taco before the ride. I ended up losing Brencho's 
>> phone at the taco truck.. Brencho was super cool about it and for the rest 
>> of the ride the on going joke was , "Hey Brencho this would look nice why 
>> won't you take a picture of it on your phonenevermind." 
>>
>> All in good fun.
>>
>> We roll over to Rivendell with Duy, Wilson, Mike and his friend Matt 
>> waiting for us and surprisingly the rest of the Grin Fundo camping folks.
>>
>> We purposely didn't try to overlap both events but I guess that's what 
>> happens when you don't pay attention to dates and stuff. 
>>
>> The Grin Fundo group rode up before and we caught up along the way. Got 
>> to talk to a handful of folks on the list and even (gasp) take a few 
>> pictures. 
>>
>> After the Junction the groups parted ways and we made our way up to the 
>> abandon rancho. Dark was settling in and we ended up pitching tents in 30 
>> mph winds! 
>>
>> Dinner was shared as we made spam musubi and The Dav. A fire roasted 
>> banana with chocolate chops, small marshmallows and *wait for it* whisky in 
>> it's pudding like goodness.
>>
>> We slept very weary knowing that at any moment a shadowy ghost of the old 
>> ranchers could come by and wake us at any moment!
>>
>> The next day we were lucky enough to find ourselves over a blanket of fog 
>> that cleared once we rode down it and back home.
>>
>> Great trip. Looking forward to doing again next summer!
>>
>> Pictures proved that we didn't die from ghostly ranchers:
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjHLAmuP
>>
>> -Manny "The next one is in the summer" Acosta
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for Saddle Bag--mostly for books

[Tom Goodmann]

Loads of good ideas, as usual on this list.  Tom, a photo would be great; I
like the home remedy!  Several recommendations, then, for the medium or
large Saddlesack (also a handsome bag). Swift Industries Mini Rolltop
panniers are the other choice I have in mind: MUSA; waxed canvas option;
two panniers for the price (+ options) of one Saddlesack. Really a question
of preference, as both are attractive options.


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> Jim,
>
> I use a bungee ball on the bottom of my large SaddleSack. The cord loops
> through the leather on the bottom of the bag and around the top of the
> rack. It holds nice and secure. It's not exactly quick release, but it's
> quickER release... personally I find it more time-consuming (we're talking
> seconds here) but less irritating than the Ortlieb pannier system. I use my
> SaddleSack for commuting and take the bag off whenever I leave the bike,
> including for quick stops at the grocery store on the way home. It may be
> too much of a fiddle for some people though.
>
> Before I thought of the bungee ball I was using a John's Irish strap. That
> was also OK, but it's more difficult to feed the strap through the buckle
> than it is to engage a bungee ball, so the bungee ball was a step in the
> right direction. It was further improved when I started using a
> half-cut-off zip tie to feed the bungee cord through the rack. I'm not
> explaining this very well—be happy to post a photo if it helps.
>
> Tom
> Germany
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