[RBW] Albatross V-brake levers

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I recently ordered Albatross bars for my early green Sam.  After trying 
several options, staying with V-brakes. RBW does not currently offer 
V-brake compatible levers for non-drop bars. Would appreciate 
recommendations for best choice and where to buy. LBS is not a good option, 
as closest is 55 miles away.
David

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[RBW] Re: Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

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I have a 52 green and gold Sam H with the original Fatty Rumpkins and VO 
stainless steel fenders (58 mm).  There is greater than 1 cm clearance 
between tire and fender all around, front and rear.  No rubbing.  
Incidentally, the Fatty Rumpkins measure slightly wider (39mm) on Atlas 
rims than my Hetres (38 mm) on Synergy rims.
David

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:50:37 PM UTC-6, AaronY wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
>
> I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin 
> fenders.  Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as 
> the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly.  
>
> However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub 
> may occur as the bike flexes.  I can't see any wear marks on the tire, but 
> any degree of tire rub is concerning to me.  I'm considering swapping tires 
> to something a bit smaller, but before I do I want to ask the bunch:
>
> If you have a Sam H and are running 650bx42mm tires and have fenders, then 
> what is your experience?  What tires and fenders are you using?  Any 
> rubbing?
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Aaron "In general I like a rub, but just not tire rub" Young
> The Dalles, OR
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[RBW] Grant at Fairhope, Alabama

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Don't know if any other list members are planning to make it to this book 
signing and ride.  If so, this information might be useful.
According to the bookstore website, the signing is happening on Friday 
evening, May 4, from 6-8 PM.
The ride, third annual Good Life Ride, is on Sunday AM, with more book 
signing to follow.
This was confirmed by email by Karin Wilson last night.
Wish I could make it, but looks doubtful.
David

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Re: [RBW] Grant at Fairhope, Alabama

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I am in south Mississippi, Brookhaven.  It is a 4 hour drive from here to 
Fairhope.  Never expected the book tour to come within 500 miles, so it is 
tempting, but still difficult.

On Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:32:50 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> David: Where are you located? There aren't too many Rivs in AL for sure!  
> I want to make the ride. The original announcement sounded like there was a 
> Q&A and book signing and then a ride, if GP could wrangle the folder into 
> the carry case.
>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:38 PM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net <
> carnerda...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Don't know if any other list members are planning to make it to this book 
>> signing and ride.  If so, this information might be useful.
>> According to the bookstore website, the signing is happening on Friday 
>> evening, May 4, from 6-8 PM.
>> The ride, third annual Good Life Ride, is on Sunday AM, with more book 
>> signing to follow.
>> This was confirmed by email by Karin Wilson last night.
>> Wish I could make it, but looks doubtful.
>> David
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[RBW] Ride video

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My son recently posted a video from a ride together in March.  He is 
apologetic about the shakiness of the handheld camera, but it looks good to 
me.
I was not riding a Rivendell that day, but the Riv content should not be 
hard to spot.
http://vimeo.com/41471076
David

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Re: [RBW] can one convert a 53 atlantis to a 650b?

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On 5/29/2011 1:24 PM, CycloFiend wrote:

on 5/29/11 9:33 AM, canali at jwcoll...@hotmail.com wrote:


just wonderingand what cost/replacements are involved?
...read somewhere of people doing such but am not sure if this size
was doable or not.

I think a few people have experimented or at least measured for this - You
should take a loop through the archives - this topic has cropped up a couple
of times.  In a more generic list, like iBob, the basic question is the
efficacy of changing a 26" (559) wheeled bike to a 650B (584).

Unlike the initial idea of 650B/584 conversion from a 700C/622 size, the
core question might be "what do you hope to gain?"

For a cantilever brake equipped bicycle, I'd say the first mechanical issue
to consider is that of brake position.

- Jim

VO blog from 20 May, 2011 has one person's opinion/experience of this 
conversion on a 26" LHT.  Not an Atlantis, but similar geometry and 
cantilever brakes.

David

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[RBW] Re: can one convert a 53 atlantis to a 650b?

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I apologize. I guess the blog post I referred to was directed more at
two issues raised in cyclofiend's post above:
"what do you hope to gain?" and the mechanical issue of cantilever
brakes with enough adjustment to cover the difference in radius.


On May 30, 1:00 pm, JL  wrote:
> I don't want to be too much of a stickler for details but the LHT and
> the Atlantis do not have very similar frame geometry.  It is a common
> misconception.
>
> We are talking about 559 to 584 conversions and in that sense, yes
> they have about the same clearance and cantilever post position.   I
> am interested to hear how this conversion idea works on an Atlantis in
> real life.
>
>
>
> > VO blog from 20 May, 2011 has one person's opinion/experience of this
> > conversion on a 26" LHT.  Not an Atlantis, but similar geometry and
> > cantilever brakes.
> > David

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[RBW] Just Ride, Baton Rouge style

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Sort of long and I know it is preaching to the choir on this list, but it 
was done by a friend of mine, so thought I would share it.
David
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W-3Mnu3Ovo 

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[RBW] Re: Touch-up paint for original green Sam

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Nail polish: Sally Hansen Hi-Def 4070-04 is best match I have found.


On Dec 12, 6:05 pm, Thomas B  wrote:
> I am having trouble finding recommendations for touch-up paint. Would
> appreciate group knowledge!

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[RBW] Re: V-brake vs canti question

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+1 on travel agents feel funny. Have been the full circle on my Sam: V-
brakes with travel agents, Tektro CR720 cantis, back to V-brakes with
Tektro RL520 levers. Was painful to cut off my less than 2 yr. old
harlequin wrap, but am glad I did.
David

On Jan 16, 2:19 am, "fugd...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Travel Agents feel funny and the cable is much more susceptible to
> breaking.V-brakes are better in the wet.
>
> On Jan 15, 9:21 pm, dougP  wrote:
>
> > Jim:
>
> > I'll keep that in mind.  The bike is my wife's Atlantis & has the
> > Shimano levers Riv uses.  I hate to start tearing into the handlebar
> > set up (bar end shifters, etc) & I have the brakes & Travel Agents so
> > I'll just install them & see how that works.  I read the Travel Agent
> > instructions & have been fiddling with one with some brake cable.
> > Getting them set up correctly may be an exercise in patience, getting
> > the cable hole on the pulley in the correct location.
>
> > dougP
>
> > On Jan 15, 6:17 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> > wrote:
>
> > > If the bike in question is equipped with STI levers, then the travel 
> > > agent is the way to go. Otherwise, the Tektro RL520 levers are a cheaper, 
> > > better way to go.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Maps that show road type.. gravel

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MSDOT has on-line county maps in PDF (also available in printed form) 
that distinguish between unimproved, gravel and paved roads. 
http://tinyurl.com/5gvsvc They are kept up-to-date as they are used for 
road maintenance planning.  I assume every state has something similar 
if you know where to look, although I tried three at random (CA, MI,MA) 
and came up empty.

David
On 12/20/2010 7:54 PM, Eric Norris wrote:
USGS Quad Sheets will show dirt roads: 
http://viewer.nationalmap.gov/viewer/


In developing areas, the maps tend to be a little out of date, but if 
you're looking at the backcountry where things don't change much they 
can be very helpful.


--Eric
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www.campyonly.com 
www.wheelsnorth.org 

On Dec 20, 2010, at 5:44 PM, doug peterson wrote:


I seem to remember a "dashed line" black and white that indicated
"unimproved" or something vague.  Never seen anything specific to
gravel.

dougP

On Dec 20, 5:27 pm, Kelly Sleeper  wrote:

I have been searching.. and looking at road mcnalley and other maps.. I
thought I remembered in the past maps that showed gravel roads as dotted
lines or something.

are they still around?

Kelly


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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?

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...or other 650B Riv -- no responses from anyone about Hetres and 
fenders on a Sam Hilborne.  Specifically interested in the 52 Sam.


Rick wrote:
> Thanks, I am encouraged.  Worse case scenario, a worthwhile
> experiment, and another summer tire to alternate with the Rumpkins.
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[RBW] Rivish Ride New Orleans Jazz and Heritage

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Last spring there were several list members in NOLA for the Jazz and
Heritage Festival.  There was some interest (maybe only me?) in a
Rivish ride at the time of the 2010 event.  This year the dates are
April 23 through May 2.  Anyone planning to attend and interested in a
group ride?
More information at the link below.
http://www.nojazzfest.com/
Disclaimer:  I have no connection with anyone involved with the
festival
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[RBW] Re: Rivish Ride New Orleans Jazz and Heritage

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I would lean toward the post-Katrina tour, but am open to all
suggestions.
David

On Jan 4, 11:05 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
> I live in walking distance to the Fairgrounds and would be up for a
> ride.  Are you interested in a post-Katrina tour or exercise?
> GeorgeS
>
> On Jan 3, 11:03 am, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
>
> > Hey David,
>
> > I hope to make it down for the second weekend (thurs-sun) and would be
> > up for a ride.  Keep us posted...
>
> > -Jay B
> > Denver, CO
>
> > On Jan 3, 11:14 am, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
>
> >  wrote:
> > > Last spring there were several list members in NOLA for the Jazz and
> > > Heritage Festival.  There was some interest (maybe only me?) in a
> > > Rivish ride at the time of the 2010 event.  This year the dates are
> > > April 23 through May 2.  Anyone planning to attend and interested in a
> > > group ride?
> > > More information at the link below.http://www.nojazzfest.com/
> > > Disclaimer:  I have no connection with anyone involved with the
> > > festival
> > > David
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Re: [RBW] MUSA Shorts/Pants Sizing question

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Another opinion in the positive for MUSA pants.  In the shorts, I prefer 
the Boosucker.


Bruce wrote:
Good point Anne. On yesterday's very cool and windy 100K, I wore a 
pair of MUSA shorts over tights for that added wind resistance.



*From:* Anne Paulson 
**
 I take them along on bike tours, because they are great both wearing 
around camp and as an extra

layer during the cycling day.

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[RBW] Hunqapillar contest

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For those of us who did not get it correct, or were not in the first
10-20, or both, could someone who got it correct and fast enough
please post the correct answer?
Thanks, David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar contest

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Sorry.  Thought I had looked carefully, but was looking in news of the 
day and probably failed to scroll down to the knot hole.


Brad Gantt wrote:

Check the Riv site. The answer is posted there.

On Feb 24, 4:13 pm, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
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For those of us who did not get it correct, or were not in the first
10-20, or both, could someone who got it correct and fast enough
please post the correct answer?
Thanks, David



  


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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

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George,
Not sure that was a fair test, as there are no alternative routes that 
would be more bike-friendly.  The only reasonable alternative would have 
been: "Get a boat."

David

GeorgeS wrote:

To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
GeorgeS

On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
  

Hi all,
Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
close to how I prefer. Check it out.

Dave Minyard
Santa Maria, Ca.



  


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[RBW] Re: Linda Blair's Wheel set?

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http://tinyurl.com/lrhk3q
Sounds like you may need to replace the body. Above is a link to Sheldon 
Brown's article on Shimano cassettes and freehubs.  Gets sort of 
complicated with early D-A hubs.

Bruce wrote:
> Let me say first off, yes, I bought these wheels on Ebay. Anyway, 
> they're Synergy rims laced up on some older D-A hubs. The rear is a 
> Uniglide and has a 7 speed cassette of unknown provenance affixed. For 
> the price paid, I really am not too upset, although the seller (who 
> works for a bike coop and should know better) got several items wrong 
> in his write up. When I emailed on the matter, he said, "Oh, I never 
> took them out of the box to look at them when I bought them from the 
> prior owner." 
>
> After truing the front (the rear was good) I took the bike on a 
> shakedown today and found that the 15 cog (the 2d smallest) has a 
> habit of freewheeling when it is used and any appreciable pressure is 
> put on the pedals. No problems on the 17 up to the 28, and only a 
> slight catch detected on the 12 cog. It's kind of like a neck rotating 
> when I go uphill on the 15.
>
> Any Uniglide users out there with ideas? Do I look for another cassette?
>
> TIA
>
>
> >

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[RBW] Bicycle Times magazine #2

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If I missed discussion of this, I apologize.  Did not find it in the
archives.  I was recently handed a copy of above magazine.  On the
cover is a Rivendell Atlantis, but I can find no mention of it
inside.  RBW has
an advertisement.  I assume it is a spin-off of Dirt Rag and at this
point is a trial run.
Any subscribers on the list?  Is it worth the $10 subscription?  Any
opinions about whether it will survive,or should?
David
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[RBW] Rivendell road bike history

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With all the interest generated by the anticipated, new club-rider
road bike, thought it might be an appropriate time to bring up the
history of pre-Ram Rivendell road bikes.  The only mention of these on
the cyclofiend site is in the list of models and there seems to be a
dearth of specific information on these bikes on the web in general.
Some specifics of interest to me:
Were the Heron Road and Rivendell Road Standard available at the same
time or did one succeed the other?  Did they have the same lugs,
geometry, tubing?  Is there a reliable way to differentiate a semi-
custom Road from a Road Standard?  What features could be changed on a
custom - tubing, braze-ons, brakes, geometry?  Were all match-built
Rivendell Roads Standards?  Are geometry charts available for these
bikes - in Readers or catalogs?  How will the new road bike compare to
these?  From reading about the Ram, the major changes made from the
Roads were long reach brakes, wider fork crown, longer chain-stays,
double taper seat stays.  Did trail and bb drop remain about the
same?  Sounds like the new bike will have some features of both, but
lighter tubing than either.
David


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell road bike history

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Thanks to all for the information.  I have been "planning" to get the
CD's since they became available.  Each time I place an order I think
-  oooh, 40 more bucks, maybe not this time.  If I had really planned
I could have added one to every other order and had them all a long
time ago.
Thanks again, David

On Jul 11, 6:55 pm, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
> Forgot to mention it, but I'm pretty sure you could get things tweaked even
> in the early Waterford days.  I am pretty sure I have heard of a Waterford
> Riv with polished stainless dropouts, for instance.  I am not sure if that
> extended to custom tubing choices or geometry though...
>
> Doug
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>
> > Answers inserted to the best of my knowledge...
>
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM, carnerda...@bellsouth.net <
> > carnerda...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> With all the interest generated by the anticipated, new club-rider
> >> road bike, thought it might be an appropriate time to bring up the
> >> history of pre-Ram Rivendell road bikes.  The only mention of these on
> >> the cyclofiend site is in the list of models and there seems to be a
> >> dearth of specific information on these bikes on the web in general.
> >> Some specifics of interest to me:
> >> Were the Heron Road and Rivendell Road Standard available at the same
> >> time or did one succeed the other?
>
> > Waterford built Road Standard and All Rounder were first, maybe then the
> > Long Low, then came the Heron road and touring models.
>
> > Did they have the same lugs, geometry, tubing?
>
> > Nope, Heron lugs were simpler and unique.  Rivs were custom drawn Reynolds
> > 753, Herons were 531 and had round fork blades (as did at least some Long
> > Lows).  Heron geometry was very similar, but had fewer sizes (maybe even cms
> > vs. every cm.).
>
> > Is there a reliable way to differentiate a semi- custom Road from a Road
> >> Standard?
>
> > The earlier, stock Road Stds. were all that custom 753 and had a special
> > French style but in English tubing decal.  The semi-customs have a mix of
> > tubes and no tubing decal at all.
>
> > What features could be changed on a custom - tubing, braze-ons, brakes,
> >> geometry?
>
> > On the semi-customs (like my Joe Starck built '99 Road Std.) the tubing was
> > picked for you, you could pick from a variety of braze-ons but the geometry
> > was stock.  A "full custom" meant tweaked for you, but Grant still picked
> > the geometry and it probably didn't deviate much from the standard.  Long
> > Lows usually (always?) had cantis, because the standard reach brakes were
> > all old stock at the time.  Semi-customs and customs have a serial number
> > that indicates the builder and year.
>
> > Were all match-built Rivendell Roads Standards?
>
> > No, match built All Rounders for sure, not certain about the Long Low.  It
> > was pretty much absorbed as the normal RBW BB height was lowered to 8cm drop
> > like the LL.  Match was added because Joe couldn't keep up with demand.  For
> > a time, all semi-customs and customs were JS and stock builds were match.  I
> > don't think match ever did any non-stock building.  Curt Goodrich was
> > brought in to supplement Joe and eventually became the sole Riv builder when
> > match failed.
>
> > Are geometry charts available for these
> >> bikes - in Readers or catalogs?  How will the new road bike compare to
> >> these?  From reading about the Ram, the major changes made from the
> >> Roads were long reach brakes, wider fork crown, longer chain-stays,
> >> double taper seat stays.  Did trail and bb drop remain about the
> >> same?  Sounds like the new bike will have some features of both, but
> >> lighter tubing than either.
> >> David
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[RBW] Re: Basket installation question

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http://tinyurl.com/mrveu9
I vote for the zip ties.  As long as you have some small wire cutters 
and plenty of zip ties it is 30 seconds to remove and 90 seconds to 
install.  Very secure.  In my opinion the duct tape would be a mess and 
the velcro would allow the basket to move around.
David

MichaelH wrote:
> My wife has been asking me to find some way to bring her dog ( a 10.5
> lb. mini dachshund named Sam) on our bike trips.  I think this means
> mostly on my bike.  I'm thinking about a wald basket for the back
> rack, but wouldn't want it there most of the time .  G. P. suggests
> putting them on with zip ties, which seems pretty inconvenient for
> moving it.  Has anyone tried velcro, or perhaps just some duct tape or
> any other way to make these baskets more  flexible?
>
> Michael
> >
>
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[RBW] Re: Basket installation question

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Sorry that tinyurl did not work as planned.  Please click on picture of 
basket.
David

carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/mrveu9
> I vote for the zip ties.  As long as you have some small wire cutters 
> and plenty of zip ties it is 30 seconds to remove and 90 seconds to 
> install.  Very secure.  In my opinion the duct tape would be a mess and 
> the velcro would allow the basket to move around.
> David
>
> MichaelH wrote:
>   
>> My wife has been asking me to find some way to bring her dog ( a 10.5
>> lb. mini dachshund named Sam) on our bike trips.  I think this means
>> mostly on my bike.  I'm thinking about a wald basket for the back
>> rack, but wouldn't want it there most of the time .  G. P. suggests
>> putting them on with zip ties, which seems pretty inconvenient for
>> moving it.  Has anyone tried velcro, or perhaps just some duct tape or
>> any other way to make these baskets more  flexible?
>>
>> Michael
>> 
>>   
>> 
>
> >
>
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[RBW] Re: Basket installation question

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http://tinyurl.com/msvsox
Dr.'s Foster&Smith has 5 options for bicycle doggy carriers, one of 
which is for a rear rack. I have no connection to the company other than 
the amount of money we have spent on orders from them.  I have used none 
of them, as none of our dogs is of a size to safely carry on a bike.
David

Bill M. wrote:
> There's a link to the US distributor for Basil under "Where to Buy" -
> http://www.seattlebikesupply.com/.  "Your local bike shop can order
> anything you see here".  From what I can see on the website, there are
> three sizes of rear basket, each of which comes with either a seat
> post mounting bracket or a spring clip system for rack top mounting.
> the front basket uses a mount that clamps to the head tube, so it
> doesn't turn with the bars.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 27, 2:08 pm, MichaelH  wrote:
>   
>> Bill The Basil baskets look nice but they don't make it easy to
>> understand or buy.  From the web site I can't tell how the wicker and
>> metal frames interface or how they attach to the bike.  They neither
>> sell on line nor list prices, but only refer to a wholesaler part
>> number for a retailer to track down. It does feel like a pig in a
>> poke.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Jul 26, 8:04 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> I wouldn't use a Wald, the wires aren't spaced nicely for a dog to
>>> perch comfortably.  Basil (from the Netherlands) makes some nice
>>> wicker baskets with open wire covers designed specifically for
>>> carrying animals:
>>>   
>>> http://www.basil.nl/gb/home/
>>> (click on Assortment, then Animal Bicycle Baskets)
>>>   
>>> Bill
>>> (who's allergic to dogs and cats...)
>>>   
>>> On Jul 26, 2:59 pm, MichaelH  wrote:
>>>   
 My wife has been asking me to find some way to bring her dog ( a 10.5
 lb. mini dachshund named Sam) on our bike trips.  I think this means
 mostly on my bike.  I'm thinking about a wald basket for the back
 rack, but wouldn't want it there most of the time .  G. P. suggests
 putting them on with zip ties, which seems pretty inconvenient for
 moving it.  Has anyone tried velcro, or perhaps just some duct tape or
 any other way to make these baskets more  flexible?
 
 Michael
 
> >
>
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[RBW] Re: Right Frame Size?

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I assume that recommendation was made on the basis of  your reach.  
According to the geometry chart the TT on the 650/58 is 58.5 while on 
the 700/57 it is 57.  I have a PBH of 84.5, but a short torso.  With 
drop bars and my seat back where I like it I find that a TT of over 57cm 
has me more stretched out than I prefer.  If you have a longer torso or 
are more flexible than I or plan to use Albatross type bars, the longer 
TT would be fine.
David

Michael wrote:
> I am ordering an A. Homer Hilsen. My PBH is exactly 33 inches (83.8
> cm), I was informed that a 57 cm with 700 wheels would be better for
> me than a 58 with 650s.  Any opinions on my correct size frame?  If
> you do the math as on Riv site, my size frame is 58.  Is a 59 cm way
> too big?
>
> >
>
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[RBW] Is this rim wear unusual

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My 650B Sam Hillborne has Velocity Synergy rims and Shimano Deore V-
brakes with the pads that came on them. Since new the front wheel has
had a little tick with each revolution while braking.  I assumed this
was a slightly raised joint line that would flatten out with normal
wear.  Over the last two weeks I have had three12-15 mile rides on
gravel and chip seal roads which include some steep sections with
multiple pot holes and required heavy braking. Between these rides I
had the usual short commutes to work. I noticed that braking in the
front had become much more uneven to the point that firm application
of the front brake caused an unpleasant "thump" with each revolution.
I decided it was time to clean the braking surface.  When I did I
found the front rim to be fairly deeply scored and in a pattern where
the deepest scoring corresponds to each spoke hole. This is the same
on both sides of the rim.  The rear rim does not have this pattern. I
have never seen this and can't find mention of it on the internets.
The links below are to pictures I took to try to show the pattern.
Am I doing something wrong to cause this?  Should I change to
different brake pads?  Should I be worried about this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889788162/in/set-72157623654420644
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889790774/in/set-72157623654420644/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889196607/in/set-72157623654420644
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual

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First, thanks to all who have shared their experience, observations and 
advice.

Here are the brake pads:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892840374/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4892244553/
I removed the tire and rim tape and closely inspected the rim.  I saw no 
signs of even tiny cracks, inside or out.  I put the rim on my very 
basic Minoura Workman Pro truing stand.  Best  I can tell the rim is 
true to less than a mm. radially and laterally. I could not detect any 
irregularities of the braking surface. Specifically, I could not find 
any area  where the rim was "fatter" than it should be.The scoring was 
bad enough that I used a maroon abrasive pad to smooth off the worst 
high spots, replaced tire, remounted with the same pads (after cleaning) 
and today got in a short test ride. The braking is very smooth, too 
smooth in fact.  Even the original little "tick" is gone, but there is 
some loss of stopping power, I assume from my sanding. I plan to do the 
burnishing thing before replacing the tire, although I am a little vague 
on exactly how that is done.  "Instructables" has instructions on using 
a home made stone made out of slate for burnishing anodized rims, but I 
don't have any slate available.
As I mentioned in the original post, I have had several rides lately on 
mostly gravel roads.  On one of those, the roads were wet. The damage 
was apparently done by getting sand and small stones stuck in the pads. 
I guess I do need to be more careful about cleaning the pads after a 
ride in those conditions. Also, have been planning to get the Yokozuna 
cartridge shoes and pads from RBW.  The last time I placed an order they 
were out of stock, but I see they are back.  Does anyone have experience 
with these or have another recommendation?  From looking at the pictures 
they have the cross grooves similar to the Shimano pads.
I am also trying to decide if all this trouble is a definite sign that I 
should replace the front V-brake with a Paul Neo-Retro :-) .

David



EricP wrote:

Will agree with Tim, that the o/p should check his brake pads.
However, will also agree with David Craig and suggest the person also
pull the tire, tube and rim strip and make sure there are no cracks in
the rim with that wear.  Had two Velocity rims crack internally, so am
more paranoid about them

However, as that seems to be all the way around the rim, would think
it's more an issue of the pads.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Aug 14, 11:14 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
  

On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Angus wrote:



I have had rims, in the past, wear unevenly next to the spokes.
  
Yes, this should be clarified.  The spoke tension causes a tiny  
amount of bulging in the rim wall by each spoke which is why it wears  
more there.  This tends to be evident only on rims with anodized  
sidewalls and/or where the brake pads are especially abrasive for  
some reason.  Back in the bad old days of dark "hard" anodized rims  
there was a spate of really ugly wheels out there.  This was solved  
by machining down the sidewalls, which not only improved the  
aesthetics but also improved braking; anodizing is a bad brake  
surface for several reasons.


In the photos, the scoring looks unusually bad for a rim with this  
few miles on it.  That's why I suggested looking at the braking  
surface of the pads to see what's stuck in there.  Some pad materials  
are more prone than others to picking up flecks of aluminum from the  
rim which becomes a nice abrasive.  Or pads with gaps and voids in  
them can pick up small pieces of rock, etc.  I have found that some  
Shimano pad materials seem especially abrasive.



  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Painted Hunqua

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Jamison,
It is good of you to share these difficult issues with which you are
dealing.  I am desperately searching for a support group for owners of
match-built Riv Roads AND maxway-built, green Sams with non-spotted forks.
David

jamison brosseau wrote:

its funny those little differences.  In fact My AHH was delivered to
me by Vivian, my at home ups driver, as was my atlantis, and my
bombadil i received at work, so keith my at work ups driver delivered
that bike.  Keith is Vivians immediate boss, and all around he is a
better driver than vivian, i suppose that is why he is the shift
leader.
anyway, seeing as how keith is better than vivian it makes sense that
the bombadil is a better bike, i just enjoy it more knowing it was in
the caring hands of keith, while the ahh and atlantis both seem
tainted to me as they were temporarily cared for by Vivian.  in two
seconds im going to get on my ahh and ride to work,  i dread the
moment i have to swing my leg over a bike delivered by an inferior ups
driver, i mean i could have just had it delivered to work, and then
maybe i would have enjoyed it some.  i guess im just a self loather.
what should i do, maybe i should stop concentrating on the minute
differences and just ride my bike they are all rivendells and are
supposed to have excellent handling attention to detail and a great
ride.  or perhaps i should further differentiate my bikes from those
around me, convincing myself of their superiority or in the vivian's
bikes cases inferiority.  perhaps i can come up with some syllogisms
(sp)

bikes made in wisconsin are superior to bikes made in japan
my bikes are made in wisconsin
my bikes are superor

sorry vivian,
jamison brosseau
On Sep 2, 10:06 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
  

I will agree that the diagonal tube has always "puzzled" me and I didn't
like the fact that it wasn't going all the way to the rear dropouts. On
Monday, when I went to pick up the Betty I saw the unpainted prototype up
close with wheels on. It has more clearance than the Bombadil so the Big
Apples 2.3 didn't seem like they were too close to the seat stays. I can't
say that I really like it, but I can't say that I really dislike it either.

With the Bombadil I had no trouble getting used to the double top tubes and
found them really handy to lift the bike into/out of the train. I imagine
the diagonal tube can help in the same manner.

I don't really like the gray color either, I somehow think that the
Rivendells shine in the more pastel colors. I am blown away by the Waterford
AHH blue and the Waterford Atlantis green. I was able to compare side by
side on the train a Toyo Atlantis against mine, and while not as different
as the AHH blue, the Waterford is still more "creamy" and has the same
feeling of magic depth that the Waterford blue has for me. The gray
definitely doesn't do it for me. :-)

I think that with my current stable I'm set for a very long time (Homer,
Altantis & Betty) so I'll be watching the evolution of the Rivendell frames
for the time being.

One thing is for sure... no one can stay indifferent to the Rivendell bikes!

René



  


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[RBW] Vibrating chain

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Wondering if anyone can explain this phenomenon.
A couple months ago found a Wipperman 9sx chain at a good price.
Still an extravagance, but decided to get it for my Riv Road (riv
content) which had been relatively neglected since the arrival of the
52 Sam.  Previous chain needed cleaning, but passed the stretch test
easily.  Measured and installed the chain according to directions from
Sheldon Brown. Immediately noticed a vibration- thrrumming?- I had
never experienced before. Occurred primarily with acceleration or
mashing a high gear, especially when standing, with each pedal down-
stroke. Was diminished but not eliminated by concentrating on  smooth,
full-circle pedaling.  Just as bad on cog with straightest chain line
as any other.Drive train consists of a Phil BB, TA Pro 5 vis crank, 44
and 28 TA rings with no visible wear, Shimano 12-32 9-spd cassette,
105 RD.
Tried to ignore it, but it "felt"  inefficient and was very annoying
since the Riv Road is otherwise smooth and quiet. So I recently
replaced the cleaned old chain (Sunrace, unknown model) and there is
not even a hint of the vibration. Also, put the Wipperman chain on the
52 Sam (Sugino XD triple, steel chain rings, Deore LX RD, Shimano
12-36 cassette.  No vibration no matter how hard I mash.
Is this explainable, predictable, avoidable?  --- or just an
idiosyncrasy?

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell custom 54

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Can't help you with a sale, but read your description with interest as I 
own a match-built Rivendell Road, serial # R73M.  Enjoyed a ride on it 
this afternoon.


On 10/24/2010 8:36 PM, csb wrote:

I've decided I don't use this bike enough, and need to cull the herd
(not enough room in the basement..)  Besides, a bike like this should
be ridden with gusto, not wasting away in the dark.
   The bike is a Match-built burnt orange road standard with white
headtube and fills, I can't remember the year!  The BB ID is "R72M",
with 54 on the right side of the bb shell.  It has a Cyclotourist
triple, 50, 40, 26.  Phil Wood hubs with a screw on  7-speed
freewheel, FIR touring rims, roly poly tires.  Suntour Alpha-3000
deraiiluers, Kelly take-offs on the bars with indexed shifters.  Nitto
technomatic stem, nitto Dynamic 65 seatpost, Nitto stainless
waterbottle cages.  Nitto deep drop bar. Campy brake levers with
hidden cables.  Suntour Cyclone calipers. Of course, a honey Brooks
B-72 saddle.

   I bought this in 2001? from a fellow who had  it built up by
Rivendell, and because of health reasons had never used it.  I think I
have about 500 miles on it, always stored indoors, no rain, no
brevets. The only marks I can find on it are two tiny rub marks on the
head tube from cables, and a tiny pin-sized chip on the left chain-
stay.
   Included are assorted parts from the original owner including 2 NOS
spare freewheels.

   I thought I would list it here first, looking for $1900 plus actual
packing and shipping from a good local shop (Boston area).  Local
pickup OK.  If no go here I plan an ebay auction beginning at $2000.
As an All-Rounder frame sold on Ebay recently for $1400 including
brakes, I think this is a fair price.  If you think not, let me know
why.
   Nothing to say to this group about the bike, it is a great mellow
ride, I my hope is someone here can enjoy it as much as I have.

PS- found an old email- the frame was built in late 1999.  The wheels
were built by Joe Young.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I may have missed this before, but is there a reason you have not tried 
the fork crown daruma?
Also, for those who have or are considering 650B Sam Hillbornes, the 
fork crown dimensions must be different.  I have a Nitto mini rack on my 
52 and the bolt is long enough to fit a spacer on the front and a thick 
washer on the back.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/


Cannot be sure since I am using V-brakes, but looks like there would be 
room for the fork crown hanger and the L-bracket.

David


Earl Grey wrote:

I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.

I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup
can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
work, but with the fender, no dice). See 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.

Gernot


On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks  wrote:
  

Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
every other weak spot in the system.

The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.

Rob

On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend  wrote:







on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  

I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
look into pad angle.


Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
  
I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in

on them.
  
I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the

hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
itself.
  

I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.


Photo anywhere?
  
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Re: [RBW] Lugged! Proper fork bend! 650B! Fenders! Fattish Tires! Riv-ish!

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Are those tires prototypes or production versions?

PATRICK MOORE wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23259...@n05/4526924426/in/set-72157623747045659/

Cross-posted from the Frame list. I don't see a reason for this sort 
of construction, except as a craftman's tour de force (as opposed to 
his tour de france), but man, I'd ride it in a Rivendell minute!


IIRC, BG claimed 21 lb for the bike as pictured.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Thanks.  Good to know that.  I do not particularly like the feel of the 
V-brakes with the travel agents, but they work well with no adjustment 
issues.  Every time I get close to ordering a set of cantilevers one of 
these threads comes up and I back off.  I have no experience with cantis 
and do not have any lying around in spare parts, so I will have to order 
before giving them a try.

David

Earl Grey wrote:

I am not using a daruma because my plastic Berthoud/SKS fenders have a
riveted L-bracket. I don't think the fork crown on the 650B Sams is
different. It's just that the Tektro fork crown cable hanger is very
thick (it needs to be very stiff).

Gernot

On Apr 18, 8:44 pm, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
 wrote:
  

I may have missed this before, but is there a reason you have not tried
the fork crown daruma?
Also, for those who have or are considering 650B Sam Hillbornes, the
fork crown dimensions must be different.  I have a Nitto mini rack on my
52 and the bolt is long enough to fit a spacer on the front and a thick
washer on the back.



http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/
  

Cannot be sure since I am using V-brakes, but looks like there would be
room for the fork crown hanger and the L-bracket.
David





Earl Grey wrote:


I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.
  
I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup

can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
work, but with the fender, no dice). 
Seehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.
  
Gernot
  
On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks  wrote:
  

Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
every other weak spot in the system.

The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable

they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.

Rob

On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend  wrote:


on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  

I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
look into pad angle.


Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
  
I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in

on them.
  
I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the

hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
itself.
  

I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.


Photo anywhere?
  
- J
  
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[RBW] Grip King/ MKS Lambda pedal spikes

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Recent order from RBW included a bag of blunt pedal spikes.  Installed
8 per pedal in the manner described on the RBW site, except I did not
have the appropriate vise-grip.  Used a slightly over-sized socket
wrench instead.  After a short rainy test ride I was well satisfied
with the results except that on inspection later in the evening, 3 of
the spikes were missing, all from the non drive side pedal. I accept
that this was most likely due to user error.  My theory is that the
missing spikes were started crooked and when snugged down to the
straight position the shallow threads were stripped.
Nevertheless, it prompted a trip to the local hardware.  Their thread
sizing board identified the spikes as 4mm with a 0.7mm thread pitch.
They had the matching plug tap in stock for $3.79 (made in the USA).
Recommended drill bit is a #30 wire gauge bit (3.26mm diam.) for
$2.99.  While there I purchased a 100 mm vise grip for $12.99 (made in
Taiwan).
I am passing this information along in case it would save some time
for someone else who may prefer to cut the threads with a tap.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grip King/ MKS Lambda pedal spikes

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I used a 7/64 bit (half way between the 3/32 and 1/8 recommended by 
RBW.  The spikes that stayed in are tight. I have checked and think I 
would have a difficult time removing them to re-thread.  I really think 
my mistake was not getting them started straight.  Two that fell out 
were in the extreme outboard holes where I had a previous pedal strike 
on pavement that had deformed the "lip" and probably pretty much 
guaranteed that I would start them crooked.
I am not suggesting that secure installation requires tapping. Just 
another option.  A little more complicated, but not that expensive if 
you leave out the new vice grip.

David

amoll68 wrote:

David,

I installed spikes in my GKs, but didn't need to tap them - can't
recall the bit size I used. I do know that the first hole was slightly
too big (maybe what happened to you?) I went down a size, and they all
went in fine, and I haven't lost a spike in over a year. IIRC, I used
a small metric socket to drive them home.

They work great - esp. in the wet.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike

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http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/194

Sounds similar.

Aaron Thomas wrote:

An undeniably cool name and worthy woman to commemorate, but perhaps a
mixed message for a bike. At least one biographer quotes her as saying
to her daughter:

"You must not ride too much on your bicycle."

See (p. 52):

http://books.google.com/books?id=ksUh2lIpcGYC&pg=PA52&dq=Emmeline+Pankhurst+bicycle&ei=VpvjS5WSL5islQT_qKznCQ&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

On May 6, 6:31 pm, Annette Lein  wrote:
  

For a mixte.Emmeline Pankhurst

On May 6, 2010, at 8:46 PM, andrew hill wrote:





how about..
  
Chautauqua (for a long haul country/sport/touring)
  
Mountain Goat (for a 29er single speed)
  
Bonnie / Clyde (for hers/his 29er mixtes)
  
Be Seeing You (for a penny-farthing or 96er)
  
Cutter (in the same family as a Rodeo, but more fun to beat out of  
town carbon racers with)
  
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Re: [RBW] Steel frames, custom racks, hammered fenders, schwalbe big apples

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Are those Jack Browns on the Sylvan "pencil" bike in picture #7?

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Re: [RBW] 53cm Legolas on the 'bay

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I am not related to this bicycle in any way, but have a specific 
question about it for a friend who is interested:
Would it make a good 650B conversion?  With the frame size and 
less-than-most-Riv's BB drop seems it would be ideal if brakes are
available.  Would Motolites have enough reach to work?  More 
specifically, would that setup work with Hetres or Pari-Motos?

David
cyclotourist wrote:
Was just looking at that.  Here's the tiny version:  
*http://tinyurl.com/29sat3j 

*They also have a 52cm Rambouillet for sale.  And there's a 52cm 
Saluki someone else is selling.  If you ride a smaller frame, there's 
some good pickings at the moment!




On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:13 PM, J L > wrote:


Not my bike, no relation to seller. 


Price is a little high for a used frame and fork IMHO, but given
the rarity it almost seems appropriate. 


Great yellow color.

My size, very tempting.  Someone buy it so I don't.

No link, Tiny URL didn't want to cooperate.  Easy to find on ebay.

-Jason


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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Whoa, this is making the Sam sound like a real slug- 18 mph vs 12
mph.  I don't find that kind of differential between my 52 Sam (front
and rear racks, SS fenders, Fatty Rumpkins) and my Riv Road (currently
no racks, no fenders, 32 Pasela non TG).  Is it just that I am so slow
to start with?
David

On Jun 21, 1:02 am, andrew hill  wrote:
> Thanks for all the suggestions folks.
>
> Lighter rubber and/or lighter wheels on the Sam are an excellent place to 
> start.
> And I appreciate the suggestion to enjoy the slowness.  :)  
>
> But it's not really an illusion - on a different bike (29er mtn bike with 
> 2.2" knobbys) i can do my 6 mile morning commute (in) in about 20 minutes if 
> I hit most of the lights.  on the Sam, it's more like 30.  for commuting I 
> could care less about the speed, but it's definitely different on the two 
> bikes, and not in the direction I'd expect.
>
> For a 100 mile push though.. I do care if it's 6 hours or 8, on the bike.   
> I'll try lighter rubber and figure out a 30 mile training course or something 
> and see how it feels.  But I do think an expanded geo SimpleOne, ur-Amos, 
> etc., is in my future.  
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
> On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Bill Gibson wrote:
>
> > Perception of speed is just that: subjective. Enjoy your ride! To go
> > fast, get a good night's sleep, eat & drink well, be well, don't wear
> > flappy clothes, find your fast tires (which may or may not the most
> > durable). In that order.
>
> > The engine, the air, then tires.  If it's hilly, OK, lose weight, but
> > on the open plain, don't worry. On rolling hills extra momentum might
> > even help.
>
> > On rough roads, my ancient prejudice has recently been scientifically
> > confirmed: fatter, lower pressure tires may seem slower, but aren't;
> > the song of tubulars and high pressure skinny tires is a siren song.
>
> > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Angus  wrote:
> >> Andrew,
>
> >> If it were me, changing the tires to a good quality lighter weight
> >> tire would be the first thing I would do.  Panaracer Paselas (non-
> >> tourguard) roll reasonably well and relatively inexpensive.  I've got
> >> 32s (measure 28-29) on the Rambouillet and 35s (measure 35) on the
> >> Quickbeam.  Heavier/more durable tires on the Rambouillet were
> >> noticeably/measurably slower.
>
> >> Angus
>
> >> On Jun 13, 9:17 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> >>> hi folks,
>
> >>> i loved riding my first century recently, on a Sam Hillborne, but it was 
> >>> a pretty slow (though mostly comfortable) push. so the way i have it set 
> >>> up it's excellent for city commuting and loaded touring / randonneuring, 
> >>> but still think i want a gofast for club/training rides, built up with 
> >>> lighter wheels/rubber, etc.
>
> >>> the thing is - the expanded geometry of the Sam fits my build (and that 
> >>> of a few other odd ducks who have recently posted) at 5'11 with an 84.5 
> >>> pbh, rounding up.
>
> >>> so - of the current frames new or in circulation, what lightish, 
> >>> expandedish frame should i be looking for for?  should i simply try 
> >>> another Sam?  maybe a size down with a longer stem?  :)
>
> >>> just musing - but i figured y'all would have some opinions.
>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> andrew
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[RBW] Problem with on-line order at RBW

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I know I will not be able to get a definitive answer until RBW reopens
on Tues. and I plan to give them a call.  Still, would help for me to
know if anyone else has had any problem with an on-line order over the
weekend.
All went well until I clicked on "OK place this order already".  I
then received the message that the page did not exist - Hmm, you must
have followed an old link."  I tried twice with the same result.  Then
I received an email confirmation of the order with all information
correct. Fortunately only one.
Any ideas?
Thanks, David

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Re: [RBW] Deore V-Brake issue on Hillborne

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Deore V brakes, purchased from RBW, work fine on my SH. Did have to 
place a small spacer (presta valve nut) in front of fork crown when 
mounting Nitto mini to avoid contact.  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/in/set-72157623654420644/

Is this another Waterford/Taiwan issue? ;-)
David
Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

Hi!

Building up my Hillborne, I tried to put Deore V-brakes on it.
However, the Deores would not slide all the way down the brake post/
stud/boss/whatever. The pin which anchors the spring in one of the
holes on the brake post did not fully insert into any of the 3 holes.
Also, the front brake was protruding far enough that it interfered
with the mini front rack.

Anybody else have this experience? If so, do you feel the brake will
function reliably with the anchor not fully seated? Did you find a way
to fully seat the anchor?

(I also had some Tektro 857AL brakes; they fit fine. And they also
look stupendously ugly, especially with salmon-colored pads. They
work. But did I mention how ugly they are? Wow, are they ugly. But
this is the sort of sacrifice one makes, since the hideousness of
their ugliness and the shame of being associated with that horrible
sight in any way is far outweighed by the glory of being able to
actually ride one's Hillborne.)

Yours,
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Re: [RBW] Front loading ...???

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Have you determined the actual weight you will be carrying on tour?  
Once that is set perhaps you could find a point of balance that 
optimizes the handling of your SH?

"To go beyond is as wrong as to fall short." Confucius

PATRICK MOORE wrote:
Inaugural ride -- yes, brief; 11-12 m rt to grocery store and PO and 
back -- with, upon return, a total of 10 lb, including panniers 
themselves, slung low on the Tara. So: what is my initial impression 
after, granted, no more than six miles?


1. 10 lb does not seem to materially help front end stability; the 
bike still has the slight "wandering" feeling so absent from my other 
Rivs. This on the straight and levels. I did not have a chance to test 
it up a 12% grade in a sub 30" gear.


2. Turning is more cumbersome: one virtue of the Sam Hill is that, 
when you lean, it turns. With the 10 lb, steering is definitely slower 
and requires more conscious input.


So, I assume that some bikes are just not as front load friendly as 
others? I must add 10 to 20 more lbs in front to try out a real load. 
And, of course, put on more front loaded miles before I conclude with 
finality. But I suspect that this bike, as my Motobecane, really 
prefers rear loads. No?


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[RBW] Re: question about bars seen on cyclofiend

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My guess is the Belleri porteur bar.
http://tinyurl.com/5kjdyl

Gino Zahnd wrote:
> Is it the Nitto North?
> http://www.google.com/products?q=nitto+north
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Jeremy Till  > wrote:
>
>
> Anybody know what bars are on this Moulton, just posted on
> Cyclofiend's website?
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc574-rickgalezowski1208.html
>
> They look like albatross', but shorter and without as much rise/drop.
>
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[RBW] Re: cross country rider

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In case there is anyone who would like to participate in the final day
of his ride.
www.bikingforobama.com/2009/01/11/calling-all-riders/

On Dec 24 2008, 1:40 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Thanks for the link.  Guy is truly inspired.  Even the southern tier
> this time of the year can get dicey weather.
>
> On Dec 24, 8:44 am, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
>
> > thought yall might enjoy this
>
> >http://www.bikingforobama.com/
>
> > even have a place for him stay
> > ifn yr on the route
> > peace
>
> > well behaved women rarely make history
> > _ride yr friggin bicycle_
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[RBW] Re: Pumps for Riv frames

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Last order from RBW included the Topeak frame pump, size XL for 58 cm. 
Road Standard. I like it - looks and function.
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colin p. cummings wrote:
> I hate that I'm not using the little pump peg to store a nice looking
> air-infiltration device.  Curious what you guys/gals use if you have
> those cool touring pumps on your Rivendell.
>
> Cheers,
>
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[RBW] Re: YouTube - Lance Armstrong Group at the Howell Mount

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Was it an optical illusion, or were there more petroleum powered support 
and monitoring vehicles than racers?

Eric Norris wrote:
> Not a fender or a 35C tire in sight.
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com 
> www.wheelsnorth.org 
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 7:19 PM, David Estes wrote:
>
>> found it from following the other video... it appears they don't have 
>> fenders, either.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, David Estes > > wrote:
>>
>> But I see there's an on-line dating tutorial... is that the way
>> to Lance's heart?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Anne Paulson
>> mailto:anne.paul...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This video does not seem to be available.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Eric Norris
>> mailto:campyonly...@me.com>> wrote:
>> > The Armstrong group crests the summit of Howell Mountain.
>> > Again, zero Riv content.  In fact, in this clip you can see
>> a rider whose
>> > derailleur hanger snaps off and ends up waiting for his
>> team car.  Needless
>> > to say, that wouldn't happen with a Rivendell ... or a
>> fixed gear ;-)
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12wngz6qPqo
>> >
>>
>> --
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> My hovercraft is full of eels
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: This calls for a country bike!

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Louisiana version. This Sunday.
http://tinyurl.com/b2rqwx

Mike wrote:
>> or, you could just read the English version 
>> -http://www.eroica.it/index_en.php
>> 
>
> This race is different than the one I initially posted about which is
> a "pro" race with some of the big guns. The Eroica, if I understand,
> is more of an event where folks ride the course on retro bikes. I
> think both events are interesting.
>
> I do remember seeing a thing a few years back about how some of the
> Pro Tour riders were using standard reach calipers for Paris Roubaix
> to allow for bigger tires (25s!) and some mud clearance.
>
> And when I lived in SF I remember doing a few of the Grasshopper
> "races" that Soulcraft puts on which took in some dirt roads.
>
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[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar

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http://tinyurl.com/cvxduy
My current M-bar setup. Far less "neat" looking than the traditional 
setup, but is much more upright and I find comfortable.

David Estes wrote:
> FWIW, I have the clamp level with my seat, so the ends are probably 
> 3cm below that... YMMV
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, charlie  > wrote:
>
>
> I just put mustache bars on my Surly Trucker and so far the jury is
> still out on them. I rode home from work yesterday (20 miles) and I
> had more wrist and hand discomfort than with my noodle bars. My
> mustache bars are 1 inch higher at the ends than my saddle and I use a
> 90mm stem. I may try a shorter and taller stem. In town the bar was
> great with good braking control and a stable feel. I have one other
> bike with an albatross bar and a B67 that is simply the most
> comfortable bike I own. I remain frustrated and $100 poorer. As one
> other poster said I am 50 and overweight so perhaps there is nothing
> that will give me comfort for rides over about 15 miles.
>
> On May 1, 6:27 pm, nathan spindel  > wrote:
> > After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was
> more
> > upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp
> > size). Let me know if you've got one for sale!
> >
> > -nathan
>
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>
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
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>
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[RBW] Riv-ish sighting in NOLA

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Came across two bicycles locked up on Jackson square in New Orleans a
little past noon today.  Vintage Trek converted to SS with dirt-drop
stem, moustache handlebar and speed-blend tires. Surly LHT with cloth
tape wrapped  drop bars.  Both bikes had Grip-King pedals and wald
baskets.
Anyone on this list?
David
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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish sighting in NOLA

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Jay,
Sort of hoped there were some Riv riders in the neighborhood, but always 
glad to hear of folks visiting New Orleans.  We currently live 130 miles 
north on I-55 in south Mississippi, but my wife and I met and married in 
NOLA and in many ways it is still home for us.
Glad you plan to come back.  I will take you up on the ride during next 
year's JazzFest.  Perhaps we can generate enough interest to get other 
list members to join us. New Orleans is always worth the trip!
David



J. Burkhalter wrote:
> Hey David,
>
> That'd be me on the Trek and Claire on the LHT.  We had a great time
> pedaling 'round the city during JazzFest.  So glad we took some bikes
> with us.  While the SS fit the bill perfectly for NOLA, Ruffy Tuffy's
> have no business whatsoever in the city.  ;^)   It had been almost 10
> years since my last visit, and oh boy, had I forgotten about the
> roads.  Next year I'll definitely be straddling my Big Apples,
> Albatrosses, and sprung Brooks.  If you're local, or will be there for
> JazzFest next year, I'd be up for a New Orleans style Riv ride.
>
> Cheers!
> -Jay
> Asheville, NC
>
>
>
> On May 3, 8:17 pm, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
>  wrote:
>   
>> Came across two bicycles locked up on Jackson square in New Orleans a
>> little past noon today.  Vintage Trek converted to SS with dirt-drop
>> stem, moustache handlebar and speed-blend tires. Surly LHT with cloth
>> tape wrapped  drop bars.  Both bikes had Grip-King pedals and wald
>> baskets.
>> Anyone on this list?
>> David
>> 
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[RBW] Re: steel vs. carbon fiber

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...and only twice the cost plus change ($1800) of a new Sam.

On May 30, 11:25 pm, David Estes  wrote:
> How 'bout their Cross 
> bikes?http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?sid=09Tricross&eid...
>
> No fenders, but at least some wider tires and what you would presume is a
> strong build...
>
> DE
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:
>
> > I had a Roubaix Elite a few years ago.  It was a really fun bike and I
> > did a double century on it with no problems.  I wish they'd taken it a
> > couple steps further so I could have made at least some attempt to fit
> > wider tires, fenders, etc.
>
> > On May 30, 8:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
> > > i am a true believer in grant's fit process. i love my 60cm blue ram.
> > > but, i broke down and purchased a 56cm specialized roubaix frameset.
> > > on my ram, i run grand bois 700x28 with 75psi front and 85psi rear. on
> > > my roubaix, i run vredestein 700x25 pumped to 100psi. the roubaix is a
> > > smoother ride in my mind. if you don't need to carry anything other
> > > than spares, its hard to knock the roubaix.
> > > don c.
>
> --
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[RBW] Re: steel vs. carbon fiber

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I think the second poster in this thread expressed a desire to turn an 
apple into a kumquat.
I realize I was stretching the cost factor, as the "street price" is 
rarely the same as the MSRP.
David

Bill M. wrote:
> A Sam frameset runs $1000.  One of my co-workers just helped a friend
> choose a new road bike.  The friend got a Roubaix/105 bike for about
> $2000 on sale, or about what a complete Sam would cost.  But, it's an
> apples-to-kumquats comparison.  Nobody seriously considering a Roubaix
> would consider Sam as a substitute, and a Roubaix won't do what Sam
> was designed to do (wear fenders, wide tires, racks and bags, travel
> non-paved roads, etc.).
>
> I like my crabon go-fast too, but today I'll be riding my Riv Road, on
> 28 mm Rubino Pros that won't fit the Calfee, and with Ergo shifters on
> Moustache bars to try something new.
>
> It was a bit surreal seeing Don (the OP) on a club ride, knowing that
> we were the only two Rivendell owners in the club, and we were both
> riding carbon bikes.  There was only one steel frame (a Steve Rex) and
> one ti Lightspeed in the group, the other dozen bikes were all
> carbon.  The times are changing...
>
> Bill
>
> On May 31, 5:21 am, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
>  wrote:
>   
>> ...and only twice the cost plus change ($1800) of a new Sam.
>>
>> On May 30, 11:25 pm, David Estes  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> How 'bout their Cross 
>>> bikes?http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?sid=09Tricross&eid...
>>>   
>>> No fenders, but at least some wider tires and what you would presume is a
>>> strong build...
>>>   
>>> DE
>>>   
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:58 PM, rcnute  wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I had a Roubaix Elite a few years ago.  It was a really fun bike and I
>>>> did a double century on it with no problems.  I wish they'd taken it a
>>>> couple steps further so I could have made at least some attempt to fit
>>>> wider tires, fenders, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 30, 8:34 pm, dpco  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> i am a true believer in grant's fit process. i love my 60cm blue ram.
>>>>> but, i broke down and purchased a 56cm specialized roubaix frameset.
>>>>> on my ram, i run grand bois 700x28 with 75psi front and 85psi rear. on
>>>>> my roubaix, i run vredestein 700x25 pumped to 100psi. the roubaix is a
>>>>> smoother ride in my mind. if you don't need to carry anything other
>>>>> than spares, its hard to knock the roubaix.
>>>>> don c.
>>>>>   
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> David
>>> Redlands, CA
>>>   
> >
>
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[RBW] Ram owner in Red Stick

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Riding in Baton Rouge on a beautiful, unseasonably cool morning and
met up with a gentleman on a Miyata tourer with a larger Loafer on the
back rack.  He reported that one of his other bicycles is a
Rambouillet.  He is not a member of the RBW owners bunch, but I
encouraged him to sign up.
May be a pipe dream, but I am trying to find enough Rivish riders in
the NOLA, south Louisiana and Mississippi Gulf coast area to organize
a ride.
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[RBW] Re: No Boo Boo

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Since there was no mention of size/fit relative to the butternut
MUSAs, I assume they are sized about the same.
Any observations to the contrary before I order a pair?

On Jun 6, 1:47 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> Wore my Boosuckers for the 1st time on a ride today. How could I not get a 
> pair with a name like that?  And with the reflective tape on the leg backs, 
> hope springs eternal that some gal, any gal will look back there... But I 
> digress...
>
> Wore them last night around the house. Very comfy. Put a new chain on the 
> Saluki and changed tires as well, and the shorts felt light and moved well. 
> Fit is great.

> Today they went on the club ride (Boo-Yay again) over mixed surfaces and I 
> had no complaints. They don't grab or get uncomfortable when sweaty.  I did 
> not ride with a chamois, just my regular boxers. The seersucker shirt clashed 
> color wise, so I topped them with a black merino Pendleton Tee. Looked good 
> together in fact.
>
> Came home, was already pretty grungy so I mowed the yard in the same get up. 
> Still super comfortable and after hanging up to dry, I am sure they'll be 
> good to go tomorrow on a short relaxer cruise as well.
>
> Compared to my butternut MUSA shorts, the Boosucker is softer and lighter, 
> and doesn't seem to flap in a headwind as much. I wear the butternuts off the 
> bike too, but they still look like bike shorts. These shorts look good 
> anywhere.
>
> And there's always a chance the reflectors will catch someone's eye
>
> Tailwinds..
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne's name

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No - nonsense kind of guy -- Samwise the stouthearted?

relistan wrote:
> Given that nobody really knew on this list where the name came from, I
> took the suggestion above and emailed Grant.  He got right back to
> me.  He says he needed a name that invoked a budget A. Homer Hilsen.
> He wanted it to be a name that seemed like a non-nonsense kind of guy,
> and that he likes NAME names for bikes.
>
> So there you have it. :)
>
> Karl
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[RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

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Stu,
As a fellow Sam Hillborne owner and a fan of the Swansea City Swans I was 
excited to see your post and pictures. My son is also a Swans fan and we had 
dreams of a trip to Swansea at the end of April to celebrate his fortieth 
birthday. Economics and family responsibilities have squashed those plans, but 
if we ever make it would hope to include a cycling tour in our plans.
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[RBW] Help a so-so mechanic with rear derailed issues

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Your new cassette does not happen to be an IRD/Riv 9-spd.?
David

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[RBW] WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam

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I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my Sam for 
the weekend along with a copy of "Just Ride." When I picked it up this 
afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the book and 
wants to get a bicycle "just like yours." He even prefers the original green 
color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his behalf for 
starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be considered. 
Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or sent directly to my 
email address. 
Thanks, David 

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[RBW] Re: WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I bought my Sam frame from Rivendell in early 2010.  If I remember 
correctly there were both orange and green frames being sold at that time, 
but the 52 was only available in green.  

On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 6:15:19 PM UTC-5, Norman R wrote:
>
> Wasn't the original Sam an orange color?
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:00:22 PM UTC-4, john muhl wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:54:26 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my 
>>> Sam for the weekend along with a copy of "Just Ride." When I picked it up 
>>> this afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the 
>>> book and wants to get a bicycle "just like yours." He even prefers the 
>>> original green color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his 
>>> behalf for starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be 
>>> considered. Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or 
>>> sent directly to my email address. 
>>> Thanks, David
>>
>>
>> If nothing else pops up there is a sweet, complete 51cm in the Web 
>> Specials right now:
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-129.htm 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

I bought my Sam frame from Rivendell in early 2010.  If I remember 
correctly there were orange and green frames being sold, but the 52 was 
only available in green at that time.

On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 6:15:19 PM UTC-5, Norman R wrote:
>
> Wasn't the original Sam an orange color?
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:00:22 PM UTC-4, john muhl wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:54:26 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my 
>>> Sam for the weekend along with a copy of "Just Ride." When I picked it up 
>>> this afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the 
>>> book and wants to get a bicycle "just like yours." He even prefers the 
>>> original green color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his 
>>> behalf for starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be 
>>> considered. Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or 
>>> sent directly to my email address. 
>>> Thanks, David
>>
>>
>> If nothing else pops up there is a sweet, complete 51cm in the Web 
>> Specials right now:
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-129.htm 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

picture as requested:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/17283504245/in/photostream/lightbox/

On Sunday, Octobe r 26, 2014 at 8:02:28 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> The FedEx driver delivered my new-to-me Rivendell Road frame and fork on 
> Saturday.  There is nothing quite like the anticipation of a "new" bike.  I 
> had wanted something a bit different from my Atlantis and Surly LHT and 
> decided this was it.  This will be my winter project, and I hope to have it 
> on the road come spring.  Photos here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853/
> So I have a question for the collective wisdom of this group.  I have read 
> Cyclofiend's page on the Rivendell Road Standard.  How do I tell whether 
> mine is a Road, Road Standard, or some other custom?  I am at least the 
> third owner.  If I understand Waterford serial numbers, mine the 42nd frame 
> made in July of 1996 (G96042).  It doesn't matter to my riding enjoyment 
> what model it is, but I am curious and take pride, like all of you, in my 
> Rivendells.  So, how to learn more about the frame?
> Also, does anyone have photos of their Rivendell Road (Standard) bike to 
> share?  Looking for ideas and inspiration.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: WTB 52 (650B) canti Sam

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Happy conclusion:  My friend did purchase a new Sam complete bike from 
Rivendell, although after discussion with them it was decided he needed a 
55 cm. It  arrived today and I helped him get it ready to ride
.https://www.flickr.com/photos/40696121@N00/17209631409/lightbox/


On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 5:54:26 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> I have a friend who has decided to return to cycling. I loaned him my Sam 
> for the weekend along with a copy of "Just Ride." When I picked it up this 
> afternoon he announced that he had bought the Kindle version of the book 
> and wants to get a bicycle "just like yours." He even prefers the original 
> green color. I told him I would make inquiries on the list on his behalf 
> for starters. Anything from frame/fork to complete bike would be 
> considered. Offers, questions, suggestions can be posted on the list or 
> sent directly to my email address. 
> Thanks, David 

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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

o-lite.com.tw
Road hubs: QL-ZL7R look the closest - 6 pawls, etc. , just not enough holes in 
the flanges.
I have ordered a set of the Silver from Rivendell.
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

This would be a 6 pawl: http://o-lite.com.tw/news.php?m=d&id=16&p=1
I called Riv and talked with Rich. I was mainly asking about the availability 
of the 130 end caps, but also asked if the body was steel or aluminum. He first 
said aluminum, but after checking said steel. 
David

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Can anyone identify the make and model of the child seat on Keven's bike in the 
blug post linked earlier in this thread?
David

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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

My hubs arrived yesterday.  They look at least as good "in person" as in the 
photos. The alloy vs steel question has already been answered.  I plan to take 
the recommended precautions, but that is not a deal-breaker for me.  I hope 
that issue does not make them go away. As others have said, if Rivendell sells 
them I am willing to use them.
I could not resist dismantling them part way before passing them on to the 
wheel builder. One thing I learned is that you need at least one 10 mm. hex 
wrench in addition to the two fives.
David

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Rich said I would receive an email when/if the 130 end caps were available.  
None yet. He also said he felt it would be no problem if I squeezed them into 
my 130 spaced Riv Road. Was easier than I expected. I have had my new wheels 
with these hubs for about a week with limited riding opportunities, maybe 20 
miles so far, so not much to report. Thought I would pull the cassette and 
check the hub body around the end of the year. I did remove the body and put a 
ring of Phil grease on the pawls. I don't hear as well as I once did, but to my 
ears they are virtually silent.
David

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