[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie
damn. been looking for one of those step-thru univega mountain mixtes for a while. seems like they got rid of the mixte stay after a year or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT/FS Baggins deluxe handlebar bag
hey david, just sent it out. here is the usps tracking 9505500011605211000135 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB or WTT sugino Xd2 double or triple 170mm arms
having some issues with pedal strike and knee creakiness on long rides. currently riding a triple xd2 with 175mm arms and im wondering if going to 170 would help. im 5'10 with an 86pbh. i've read that it makes little difference, but im curious and maybe you have one lying around. ideally, looking for the wide/low double that riv sells and is out of. that would be different enough in a variety of ways to justify this experiment. potentially would be interested in another triple with 170 arms, if the price is super appealing. also, would potentially be interested in trading mine for yours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit ( ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!
it has 26x2.15 big bens. so, definitely a tire on the larger side of the spectrum. i understand the feeling like you should be able to figure it out yourself and not bother someone with questions, but i think this is a situation where it is totally appropriate. specific info about the clem's has been somewhat shrouded, or at least not conveyed in all that clear or efficient of a way. just in my personal experience, ive seen what we initially bought listed as a 49cm when purchased, then a 46cm, and now a 45cm. perhaps the physical geometry has changed with each size listing change, but i dont know how a 45cm bike has a higher standover than a 49cm bike of the same model. anyway, im a truster of what they say on the phone. everything they have ever told me on the phone was accurate, despite website informational wierdness. i think if you have paid for one, you have more than a right to ask a few questions to make sure you are getting what you want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit ( ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!
no personal experience about that size, however, here is a word of possible reassurement. we bought the 45cm prototype clem (maybe sizes have changed slightly) for my fiance who has a pbh of 72-73. at the time of purchase, the website said standover was 71, and they were right. in looking at the pdf, it now seems to suggest that standover on that size now is 74. its possible that the geometry changed slightly, but i sort of doubt it. again, we just have the prototype, but if the geometry didn't change, then the standover is definitely a few cm lower than that which is listed on the pdf... i might verify with riv, but don't second guess too hard. the clem is a super cool bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] xd2 triple to double/bb question
thinking about buying Christian's wide low xd2 to replace a perfectly fine triple xd2 (featuring an unused big ring) on my hunqapillar that is currently set up with a 113 bottom bracket. were i to do this, would i need a different length bb? i think this would work, but i just want to make sure that going from a 36t middle to a 40t on in the same spot on the widelow wont be too close to the chainstay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete
im not sure that We (the people with extra parts, multiple bikes, deeply held preferences, overthinkers etc.) are really the target market for the complete clems. not to say that i don't understand the frustration of a 700$ ultimatum minus information. im just guessing, but i would imagine there are a lot of people excited to have the chance to get a complete rivendell at the cost of a sam frame, and NOT have to think about all the little parts decisionswhich is hard for us to understand, because clearly we love that part of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: cutting down a stem?
thanks for the input and offers. unfortunately i need a 25.4, but i think ill try cutting mine down this weekend -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] cutting down a stem?
i'd like to get my handlebars (albatross) a little lower (saddle height), but the technomic stem is too long or the steerer is too tall. i dont have the machinery or tools or knowledge or desire to get into cutting a steerer. is cutting an 3/4-1inch off of a stem something that people do? and if so, what are some good things to know? Q-why dont i get a shorter stem? A-money. shorter stems are usually too short. if i can avoid taking off and reapplying tape/twine/cork, id prefer to do it that way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,
bump and price reductions 85$ shipped red wings 50$ shipped swrve trousers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Thinking about Clem Wheels - What rim for 60mm tires?
Rivendell sent our prototype with Velocity Atlas Rims and 2.15 big bens. hadn't previously seen the Atlas in person, but they are really nice. maybe not quite as wide as what you are talking about though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,
MUSA pants and Tektros are gone still have SWRVE pants and red wing chukkas. adding photos of the boots https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KBnKtxgxYU4/VSBv634Yt2I/AM0/g2UQABxNtXw/s1600/FullSizeRender_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I341RlD9nuo/VSBv92ICxTI/AM8/Mop5kzO-1_I/s1600/FullSizeRender_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-83B6LiqeC28/VSBwCBsU_ZI/ANE/Jpx3CQREGAU/s1600/FullSizeRender.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GmNC_Cqy7kI/VSBwIbKA_sI/ANU/oHTpYnrImOU/s1600/IMG_1781.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jQE6ZuJtCKg/VSBwtORuFlI/ANc/fGrIfhPL90Q/s1600/FullSizeRender_3.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,
looking to get rid of these items. -SWRVE midweight slim trousers- 34x32. charcoal ish color. worn once and were too large. 65$ shipped http://swrve.myshopify.com/products/midweight-wwr-slim-trousers?variant=1068426297 -MUSA black pants- medium. also worn for about a minute and were too large (im not great about returns). i forget what these retailed for, and would ideally like to trade for a small pair, but lets say 85$ shipped. -Red Wing Chukkas. vintage. good condition. light beausage-some light scuffs and sole wear. no structural damage. leather is in great condition. size 10. (fit closer to 10.5) 85$+shipping this style http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/greedkobe/cabinet/img56381217.jpg -Tektro CR720 canti brake set. silver. mounted for about a week. 30$ shipped. also willing to trade for a small nitto front rack, nitto r-14 top rack, musa pants small, technomic stem with a long reach. obviously some of the items have a worth discrepancy, and we can discuss adding a little $$ to whatever transaction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Double Feedback -- Triple vs Double
i've been starting to wonder this same thing. i have the triple xd2 and find myself almost never using the big ring on the hunqapillar. i kind of figure that the weight differential is pretty minimal and that there is no real compelling reason to switch (other than the ongoing desire to keep tinkering). is that an accurate assessment? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars
very well said, Richard. you've an admirable amount of graciousness about the situation, while i have to stop myself from fuming. i am in 100% agreement that there is more to the story. the behavior makes so little sense and is repeated with every transaction, yet the reasons given/excuses change and fluctuate depending on the need. i've done a little bit of internet digging and rereading of my correspondence with him and, for me at least, it points to at least some amount of duplicitousness. someone shouldn't be able to post on twitter as often as he does and not be able to send a refund via paypal or just be in touch. confusing and disappointing indeed. i will probably have a harder time letting this go. I'm a teacher, getting married in a month, putting a bike together piece by piece when there is some cash/time leftover for that sort of thing. 85$ isnt a ton, but it still sucks to have it taken from you and then be ignored until you assume that you have been swindled. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars
day=made. parts aside, i just feel good about being a human again. thanks justin and steve (who just doubled down on generosity in an email to me) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars
Richard, I got a similar set of postponements and stories. The funeral that he had to attend to was weeks ago. I kept asking for a refund or a tracking number and I would get responses that had neither...until no responses at all. The frustrating and suspect thing is that a paypal refund would take the same time to do as writing an email telling me he was too busy to do that. The fact that neither of us got our packages or a tracking number, implies that they were never senteven though he said they were. To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to finally get your items or your money back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars
In the same boat here with regard to a saddle, which he told me he sent over a month ago. Finally the response I got was that he had to attend a funeral and he was not checking that email address anymorewhich is sort of frustrating. Sorta relieved it's not just me, because I was just about to write that 90$ off as gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] security
I live in LA. First I had a wheelset stolen. Adapted to use the Sheldon technique. Then I had an entire bike stolen by cutting thru the budget u-lock. I learned from that and bought a real u-lock and pit lock skewers. Still had the front wheel stolen. Now I use a kryptonite ulock for the rear which is connected to a beefy cable woven thru the whole bike. I've had no issues since. I think it just looks like too much work. But I still wouldn't leave a Rivendell outside here for more than a couple hours. Then again, just when I thought I had my technique down, someone broke into our house and stole another bike. None of these were rivs, thank god. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?
peace of mind is a valuable thing. i am not over 200#, but i opted for a hunqapillar because i didnt want to worry about loading it up or taking it only on a certain type of terrain. l think the atlantis would've given the same assurance, and likely any riv model would do what i need it to do. You could probably find a totally valid road bike of acceptable stoutness relatively cheap and easily. with rivendell, you get the, relatively rare, option to get something weight/bomb proof, if that's a priority. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Hunq vs Clem
So I have a 54 hunq and my fiancé got the 46 Clem prototype. I can't reeaaallly speak to ride because I don't fit the 46. But here are my observations. Weight-similar Stoutness-similar Ride- hunq is potentially more aggressive. Could be a roadish bike with the right cockpit and wheels...though there are better options for that...but it has that capability. Feels faster. The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it wont be quick doing those things. Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar We love both of these bikes dearly. The hunqapillar was bought before the Clem's existed, but For me, having a us made, fully lugged frame was somewhat important. I prefer the geometry of the hunq coupled with the toughness. I don't feel slow on it. I'm not quite ready to go full heavy upright long chainstay crazy big tired out yet. For the fiancé, she doesn't care about road bikes, geometry, clearances etc. she wants a bike that can do what mine does, that she will be comfortable on, will last, looks good, and doesn't cost, to her, an obscene amount of money. Not to imply that caring about those things precludes you from wanting a Clem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem
well, i think there should be a noted difference between slow and fun/lively/nimble/comfortable. i consider my hunqapillar to be fun/lively/comfortable, but it is also slower than most modern road/mountain bikes. knew it going in, love the bike for it. a lot of it is the way i have it set up, and the clem sort of necessitates a cruisery set up, while the hunq can be made more aero, at least. thick tubes, long chainstays, very upright riding position, fat fat tires there is a reason go-fast bikes dont come like this. there is a reason the faster riv bikes dont come like this. i dont think any one of these aspects inherently makes a bike slower, but all together i think, all im trying to say, and the other people who have ridden clems are saying is that it is not a go fast bike. i dont think it was intended to be a bike built to be fast. i dont think anyone at rivendell said that it would be. it excels at what it is said to excel at, and it is lovely and fun to ride. handles loads, works well on dirt/gravel (havent actually taken it on any legitimate mtb rides yet), stable, super comfortable, good looking etc. i think pretending it is gonna be a zippy road bike is not accurate. ive said this a few times in other threads, because we have one and ride it, and each time it is met with a sort of how dare you say it is slow. maybe i should say not as fast, but slow is not objectively good or bad, especially from a brand with un-racer as it's motto. when asked for a comparison, based on my experience, the clem is not as fast as the other rivendell bikes ive ridden, but it does everything else great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: LHT vs Clem ??
here is our first family photo with the 46 clem and 54 hunqapillar on a late night trip. laid back, long and stout. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-y71L3W_ubgw/VQ-R-15SPlI/AMY/f3RcJWfLecM/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2827%29.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: LHT vs Clem ??
the prototype clem we have is quite stout. i would venture to say that it is likely at least as thick walled as a lht and maybe even heavier in weight...havent actually weighed anything and im sure big tires are part of it, but it feels not so far off from my hunqapillar, which is a tank in the best way. i've never ridden a lht, but i've also never ridden a dead feeling rivendell, so i don't think youll be disappointed in the swap. however, if you are trying to go lighter, i doubt the clem is any or much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long
apologies for the interruptive, slightly off topic question. does anyone know the tubing diameter on the clem's? i have one of the bottleless prototypes and im trying to find the right clamp size to put some cages on. 28.6? 31.8? 34.9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Flipped Albatross
yeah, also tried it for about an hour. really didnt like it. the curves and the amount/closeness/width of where it drops felt super wonky. interestingly, i have some VO upright bars that have a much more subtle rise and dont curve back as much. i like those a lot when upside down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
thanks joe, awesome reference. exactly the kind of stated reasoning i was hoping for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
im thinking it helps with stiffness under weight and dent resistance? it would be interesting to hear the impetus or thought process behind the change. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
agreed. those are the current specs and i think the weight difference is probably minimal as well. what i'm more curious about is what the benefit of straight 8 vs 9/6/9 is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 1986 DB Apex 19 inch
ok, so i think ive resolved to ask for 140$ for everything but the shifters, brakes and saddle. On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 2:39:32 PM UTC-7, drew beckmeyer wrote: I have this 1986 diamondback apex bike that im getting rid of. i always wanted to do something with it since it has so much potential, but i never got around to it. it measures 19.5in center to top, and the standover with these smallish tires is 76cm. would be a great trail bike or loaded tourer. Japanese made with double-butted tange mtb frame/fork/stays. partially lugged, partially tig welded. it has a really cool extra spoke holder that doubles as the chainstay protector. has the classic deerhead derailleurs and front canti. rear wheel has a roller brake under the chainstay, which is an odd design, but it works fine. shimano cranks with biopace rings. braze ons for 2 water bottles, racks, midfork eyelets, fenders. 26 inch original wheels. frame is nice with hints of beausage in the regular places, ie. little paint chips here and there. no dings or dents. components are used but in good condition. this bike was never ridden all that much. selling this with everything *except* brake levers/shifters/cables/saddle. everything but the tires are original, including the stock blackburn mtn rack. i really don't know what a fair price is...not looking for all that much. open to suggestions and offers. if interested, ask for some detailed photographs. located in los angeles, and could potentially ship https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0artItXAvTw/VQNSHnHtGgI/AL4/R23t5xU5fCM/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-03-13%2Bat%2B2.07.07%2BPM.png https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r7rW9NwBEOw/VQNSAKQSoYI/ALw/gX1yTJSGaUI/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-03-13%2Bat%2B2.06.43%2BPM.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in
just listed this on ebay. buy it now is 575$, but will refund 75$ if any group members want it. On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:39:19 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my girlfriend... then the complete Clem prototypes went on sale and now she has a little green protovelo, and is in love. (photos of that coming soon) anyway, im looking to sell the 1990 trek 520 i was working on. USA made, lugged, pearl white, true temper cr-mo frame/fork/stays. braze ons everywhere. it has: albatross bars vintage deore thumb shifters vintage big dia compe levers cork grips and shellacked bar tape deore dx derailleurs nos sugino lt triple crank new pasela tour guard tires new bottom bracket new chain new cables and housing new leather (gyes) saddle kickstand the weird thing is the wheels, which are 27 inch. not stock. i guess at some point somebody swapped them out for the original 700c. i didnt notice until i tried to put tires on (bought it as a frame/fork/wheels/derailleurs). anyway, the brakes work fine with 27in or 700c. clearances for 40mm tires or slightly bigger if 700c. rear spacing is 132 for road or mtb hubs. it has been cleaned, frame savered, lubed, greased etc. no dings or dents, but a moderate amount of beausage to the paint. ready to ride, but i put this together myself, so fine tuning by a more skilled hand would be beneficial. currently set up for the smallest person possible with a short stem and slammed seatpost. even then it was always gonna be slightly too big for my 5'3 girlfriend (76 pbh). i think this is more ideal for the 78-84 pbh range. here is the trek info 1990 trek catalogue http://www.vintage-trek.com/TrekBrochure1990.htm#520 im about 500$ into it and i'd like to get that out of it. gonna go to ebay and craigslist, but i thought i'd see if anyone here was interested first. i have more pictures, if interested. located in Los angeles, but would be willing to have it shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG
on the 46cm protovelo we have, there is absolutely no room for a water bottle on the back of the seat tube with or without a fender. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS 1986 DB Apex 19 inch
I have this 1986 diamondback apex bike that im getting rid of. i always wanted to do something with it since it has so much potential, but i never got around to it. it measures 19.5in center to top, and the standover with these smallish tires is 76cm. would be a great trail bike or loaded tourer. Japanese made with double-butted tange mtb frame/fork/stays. partially lugged, partially tig welded. it has a really cool extra spoke holder that doubles as the chainstay protector. has the classic deerhead derailleurs and front canti. rear wheel has a roller brake under the chainstay, which is an odd design, but it works fine. shimano cranks with biopace rings. braze ons for 2 water bottles, racks, midfork eyelets, fenders. 26 inch original wheels. frame is nice with hints of beausage in the regular places, ie. little paint chips here and there. no dings or dents. components are used but in good condition. this bike was never ridden all that much. selling this with everything *except* brake levers/shifters/cables/saddle. everything but the tires are original, including the stock blackburn mtn rack. i really don't know what a fair price is...not looking for all that much. open to suggestions and offers. if interested, ask for some detailed photographs. located in los angeles, and could potentially ship https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0artItXAvTw/VQNSHnHtGgI/AL4/R23t5xU5fCM/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-03-13%2Bat%2B2.07.07%2BPM.png https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-r7rW9NwBEOw/VQNSAKQSoYI/ALw/gX1yTJSGaUI/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-03-13%2Bat%2B2.06.43%2BPM.png -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My Winter Projects
awesome. mind going into some detail about the qr basket? On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: This winter, I made a camera bag that is secured shut by magnets and clips onto my Ortlieb handlebar bag frame. I also made a top tube Tenkara rod bag, tent pole rack bag (not shown). The two frame bags I made last winter. The new quick release basket I made works flawlessly, better than the first one. It goes on and off in seconds, there is nothing attached to the rack, and is very secure. I only mount it when I need it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/sets/72157650867713900/ https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Ffireman483%2Fsets%2F72157650867713900%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGtoDqY0OhbOyDII8TDODofscVM2w Clayton (Bend) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.
i think that the clem and sam are different enough in function/ride and similar enough in price that you should go with the one that suits your needs the most. if you dont think youll want to use it to go fast on roads, but want something sturdy with big comfortable tires, then clem all the way. budget hunqapillar gives a pretty good idea for how the clem feels, but one of less aggressively set up hunqapillars. ive never been on an appaloosa, but i would imagine that there are comparisons there as well. On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 4:56:49 PM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote: Someone convince me that the large Clem will fit me. I ride a 65cm Redwood, the large Clem is a 59cm. After debating about what new bike I'd like, I want something based around an Albatross bar. Seems like the Clem is the thing, if it will be big enough. I'll give Riv a call tomorrow, but just churning ideas around this evening. Are there specs posted anywhere? Or is it more of a just-trust-Riv sorta thing? David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
well i just went ahead and asked, since i was asking other questions anyway. via Will Atlantis and Hunqapillar are both straight gauge (not a bad thing!) os x platinum .8mm in the main triangle. The fork is tougher on the Hunqa and the chainstays are thicker... The geometries are different, but the tubing is basically the same. Oh and Hunq forks are made in Taiwan, the rest is made by Waterford, which accounts for the price difference between the two models. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Photos
Patrick, yeah. same boat over here. she's already asking me about bags and baskets and easy first trips. it's cool. i think your wife will love hers. Steve, i actually bought a b67 off of the group for the same curiosity reasons, but havent received it yet. ive only ever ridden b17s, which i love until about the 40 mile mark. i got this one for dana a while back and she loves it. i've tried it out a few times and it does offer noticeable cushion, both from the width and the springs. others could probably give you a more historically based comparison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Clem Smith Photos
so, i thought that since there seems to be a lot of people who will be getting their clems or clementines in a number of months, that i would try to post some more photos to make the wait easier. we took delivery of this little guy on friday. it is the 46cm prototype purchased for my 5'1 girlfriend. the fit is perfect, she is over the moon. if you want any other photos, let me know. observations: -it is stout. we havent really pushed it's limits, but it feels hunqapillar sturdy. -i've had a number of old mtb frames built to be riv-like. this bike feels different and distinct from thosebetter than those, and somewhat less aggressive. i dont know if you could go fast on this bike if you tried, but i wouldnt hesitate to take it anywhere with a bunch of stuff attached to it. -5 minutes in, she said she has never been on a bike that felt this comfortable, smooth and stable. -the lugs it has are awesome, and you forget to miss the lugs it doesnt have -initially, i didnt love the curved seat stays. now i get it. i like them -pretty excited this came with the atlas/velocity hub wheels. not sure if those are the cheapy ones mentioned, but i feel like we scored a good deal -anyone know an aesthetically pleasing water bottle cage alternative to the 2fish ones. the prototype has no mounts for them. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ftfsaj418EI/VP091D5J2rI/AKE/6zSEd3dLn6Y/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2810%29.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fbUxAgKcYbE/VP09617_FVI/AKM/VG0KdOuQdzw/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2811%29.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MNjfkP6reMI/VP0-FGs7dMI/AKU/Fx7b02VniGY/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2812%29.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B0lPDAWa0vk/VP0-N2cHarI/AKc/hSh203zL62o/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2813%29.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RaXSnmUObO8/VP0-UW9Wv9I/AKk/AK_3v5YWOB4/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2814%29.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QP_OAF1oFx0/VP0-ccfdRLI/AKs/KkIEwO2X89A/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2815%29.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2s2S0GseK2A/VP0-ja--40I/AK0/cPqRwA6Y66k/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2816%29.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-do4vjvLh_dI/VP0-pVUikUI/AK8/TWsVNpZUKLQ/s1600/FullSizeRender%2B%2817%29.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in
Yeah. I wish there was a place for it here, but with 6 bikes and no garage, it's time to start whittling down to 4 between the 2 of us. This one is just too small for me and slightly too big for her. Also will be losing an 86 diamondback apex. Japan made with double butted tange mtb tubing throughout and a cool extra spoke holder/chainstay protector If anyone is interested in one of those On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:39:19 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my girlfriend... then the complete Clem prototypes went on sale and now she has a little green protovelo, and is in love. (photos of that coming soon) anyway, im looking to sell the 1990 trek 520 i was working on. USA made, lugged, pearl white, true temper cr-mo frame/fork/stays. braze ons everywhere. it has: albatross bars vintage deore thumb shifters vintage big dia compe levers cork grips and shellacked bar tape deore dx derailleurs nos sugino lt triple crank new pasela tour guard tires new bottom bracket new chain new cables and housing new leather (gyes) saddle kickstand the weird thing is the wheels, which are 27 inch. not stock. i guess at some point somebody swapped them out for the original 700c. i didnt notice until i tried to put tires on (bought it as a frame/fork/wheels/derailleurs). anyway, the brakes work fine with 27in or 700c. clearances for 40mm tires or slightly bigger if 700c. rear spacing is 132 for road or mtb hubs. it has been cleaned, frame savered, lubed, greased etc. no dings or dents, but a moderate amount of beausage to the paint. ready to ride, but i put this together myself, so fine tuning by a more skilled hand would be beneficial. currently set up for the smallest person possible with a short stem and slammed seatpost. even then it was always gonna be slightly too big for my 5'3 girlfriend (76 pbh). i think this is more ideal for the 78-84 pbh range. here is the trek info 1990 trek catalogue im about 500$ into it and i'd like to get that out of it. gonna go to ebay and craigslist, but i thought i'd see if anyone here was interested first. i have more pictures, if interested. located in Los angeles, but would be willing to have it shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in
so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my girlfriend... then the complete Clem prototypes went on sale and now she has a little green protovelo, and is in love. (photos of that coming soon) anyway, im looking to sell the 1990 trek 520 i was working on. USA made, lugged, pearl white, true temper cr-mo frame/fork/stays. braze ons everywhere. it has: albatross bars vintage deore thumb shifters vintage big dia compe levers cork grips and shellacked bar tape deore dx derailleurs nos sugino lt triple crank new pasela tour guard tires new bottom bracket new chain new cables and housing new leather (gyes) saddle kickstand the weird thing is the wheels, which are 27 inch. not stock. i guess at some point somebody swapped them out for the original 700c. i didnt notice until i tried to put tires on (bought it as a frame/fork/wheels/derailleurs). anyway, the brakes work fine with 27in or 700c. clearances for 40mm tires or slightly bigger if 700c. rear spacing is 132 for road or mtb hubs. it has been cleaned, frame savered, lubed, greased etc. no dings or dents, but a moderate amount of beausage to the paint. ready to ride, but i put this together myself, so fine tuning by a more skilled hand would be beneficial. currently set up for the smallest person possible with a short stem and slammed seatpost. even then it was always gonna be slightly too big for my 5'3 girlfriend (76 pbh). i think this is more ideal for the 78-84 pbh range. here is the trek info 1990 trek catalogue http://www.vintage-trek.com/TrekBrochure1990.htm#520 im about 500$ into it and i'd like to get that out of it. gonna go to ebay and craigslist, but i thought i'd see if anyone here was interested first. i have more pictures, if interested. located in Los angeles, but would be willing to have it shipped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories
still keeping my eye out for a green *carradice camper *or *medium saddlesack*, and *small panniers*. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Questions
i've been following the progression of the clem, but have no insider information. so, i think, from what i've read it is meant to be an all arounder with some trail (fat tire clearance) and touring (thicker tubing, braze-ons) capabilities. i would venture to say that it isnt meant to be a traditional go fast road bike. i got one for my girlfriend who will use it as an attractive townie that we can put racks and stuff on as i slowly try to ease her into some overnight trips. to add to the discussion -anyone know who is making these? -what the actual tubing specs are? -what the actual chainstay length is, other than long -am i an idiot for not understanding the frame lock clue? -i know im not supposed to harp on it, but does the swoopy seat stay mean less rigidity? -other than the tig welds and paint, what brings the cost down so much on the f+f? -is anyone else sorta turned off by the recommendations to take off good parts and add crummier ones? i mean, if you do that, more power to you, and if it's on the standard build, also understandable from a price point. but it seems kind of like they dont think this bike is worthy of metal pedals or cork grips or whatevereven if you want to put them on yourself. its an odd play for a bike that could be a great entry level riv for people who like the brand and wanted one, but couldnt justify the price. again, im already in and excited, so i dont need convincing. just curious -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Protovelo questions
ooh what is the renovelo? On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: so, i purchased the little green Clem Smith Jr prototype for my fiance (right as i was halfway through building up a 1990 trek 520 for her. will be selling it, if anyone is interested). i, for one, am very happy that there is a budget model available, as dropping 3k on another riv bike wasnt gonna be in the cards for me for a long time. a few tig welds and a powdercoat seems like a totally fair compromise. i think and hope that there will be a lot of people in the same gray area financial bracket who would be elated to have a rivendell. anyway, now that it is on the way, im excitedly curious about the whole protovelo thing. mainly... -are the prototypes and the actual models made in the same place, or do they have a prototype builder knock out the first few until all refinements are done, then it moves to a factory? -follow up: anyone know who will be making the clems? -is there a way to get the specs/geometry for prototypes? not that i'd ever need it. i just like knowing everything about the bikes we have. (still somewhat bugged that i dont know the tubing dimensions of my hunqapillar. uselessly anal like that) -what is the etiquette on the protovelo decals? im kind of into them, but i think she wants to ditch them. should i try to sell it as a rare feature? -follow up: anyone ever get the decals that just say rivendell? or put the official decals of the official bike on their proto (ie. sam hillborne stickers on the proto sam hillborne) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.
Does this put you at 7, Deacon? Who is the current keeper of the largest fleet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Protovelo questions
thanks Liesl, you bring up and answer a lot of decal questions/issues that i hadnt even thought about. i doubt it'll be resold, but that is a super valid point should it come to that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Protovelo questions
so, i purchased the little green Clem Smith Jr prototype for my fiance (right as i was halfway through building up a 1990 trek 520 for her. will be selling it, if anyone is interested). i, for one, am very happy that there is a budget model available, as dropping 3k on another riv bike wasnt gonna be in the cards for me for a long time. a few tig welds and a powdercoat seems like a totally fair compromise. i think and hope that there will be a lot of people in the same gray area financial bracket who would be elated to have a rivendell. anyway, now that it is on the way, im excitedly curious about the whole protovelo thing. mainly... -are the prototypes and the actual models made in the same place, or do they have a prototype builder knock out the first few until all refinements are done, then it moves to a factory? -follow up: anyone know who will be making the clems? -is there a way to get the specs/geometry for prototypes? not that i'd ever need it. i just like knowing everything about the bikes we have. (still somewhat bugged that i dont know the tubing dimensions of my hunqapillar. uselessly anal like that) -what is the etiquette on the protovelo decals? im kind of into them, but i think she wants to ditch them. should i try to sell it as a rare feature? -follow up: anyone ever get the decals that just say rivendell? or put the official decals of the official bike on their proto (ie. sam hillborne stickers on the proto sam hillborne) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Someone buy one of those long bikes!
i think a lot of these are gone. i know the 46cm is, because i bought it. if you try to buy, it says that it is sold out, but the page still remains -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Noodle to Albatross Conversion - Final Questions
yeah, i have both the steel and aluminum albatross bars. aside from minor weight gain, they are nearly identical and lovely. for around town and almost anything else, the steel will be plenty strong. i also have the shimano mtb levers on 3 bikes with upright bars. zero complaints you can also find them really cheap if you do a little searching. On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 10:29:08 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: I've spent quite a bit of time this winter contemplating a project to convert my early 1990 Trek 520 Touring bike to a more upright, around town bike. The bike is all set with fenders and racks. The next step is to replace the Noodles with Albatross bars. Here are my questions. First, given that I have absolutely no concern about the weight of this bike, is there any reason NOT to to buy the $68 CrMo Albas that Riv offers? Since this bike will be ridden on roads only, I can't see any reason to spend $90 to buy the lighter and stronger heat treated aluminum version of the Alba. Secondly, I am curious if anyone has used the Shimano MTB brake lever that Rivendell sells. It seems like a good, solid, relatively nice-looking brake lever. I will be using it to pull Tektro 559 sidepull brakes. Thanks for your thoughts. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Someone is going to get a big old deal.
edwin, that would've been a great reason. this evening will tell if my fiance takes this as god, another bike in our place or IM SO EXCITED. if it's the former, ill let you know On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: Just too much overlap with my Sam. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-122.htm Whew, hard to not pull the trigger. Back to work, head down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Someone is going to get a big old deal.
well... i just bought the little 46cm one. wasn't expecting to buy a bike today. On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: Just too much overlap with my Sam. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-122.htm Whew, hard to not pull the trigger. Back to work, head down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor
well said jim. i think a rational skeptic's eye put to either side shows that a lot of the gear and the clothes and the style is more about taste than black and white better or worse. i definitely wont wear lycra for a host of reasons, but i also sometimes roll my eyes at seersucker knickers or whatever. i think to deny that there is chest puffery, machismo and judgement used to make people buy things they don't really need in the mainstream bike world is silly. i feel it whenever i go into a bike shop. i imagine that the guy in a lesser spandex suit feels it when the guy on a lighter bike and better spandex is next to him. i feel it on bikeforums. sometimes, though rarely, i feel it in rivendell related stuff. the reason i bought a rivendell is because it felt like opting out of the system. getting quality, longevity, attractiveness in the process. i think rivendell, and the numerous companies that it has paved the way for, are really hitting that niche of people who have been turned off by being talked down to, peer pressured into getting something ridiculous (i bought a track bike once marketed as a commuter) and people who now avoid group rides. the fact that you see so many crappy linus bikes around tells me that the major brands have sort of lost touch with the normal bike rider, and people are feeling more and more ok about rejecting that paradigm. i dont need a fast bike, because im not a fast rider. that being said, i like some of them. i'd like to be able to understand some of the newer components and how they work. if i understood them, maybe i would buy one... probably not, but i dont know. i cant learn that information in a comfortable/equal footing sort of way. most bike people i come in contact with have a chip on their shoulder about one thing or another. grant and the rivendell people/website and people on this group have a super appealing, easy going way of explaining things, explaining their motive, explaining the pros and cons, and being transparent about other options out there. ive learned a lot. ive never felt like i was bothering anyone. and hell, if you don't like those explanations, every other bike shop in america sells the other explanation. its not like lycra and carbon are being phased out because of rivendell. On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 1:08:44 PM UTC-8, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado wrote: In the new Adventure Cyclist Mag PETERSEN RESPONDS TO READER LETTER ‘UNRACING? UNCOOL’ Racing attitudes, bikes, clothing, and diets have become the norm and normal, and are so pervasive that many adult cyclists, maybe even some you know, accept the racing standards as the only legitimate way to be a serious adult cyclist. What I tried to do in the book *Just Ride *— and what we do here at Rivendell Bicycle Works — is offer an alternative, a model to other adult cyclists that there is another way. This letter is not an ad for either. I’m simply saying where I come from and what I do. We are the mice trying to squeak above the roar at the base of the waterfall. It is no time to be wishywashy, but I try hard to not offend. Inevitably, a declarative position on any matter is bound to raise a few hackles with those who have a different position, but it still hurts to be judged by a stranger who would probably like me, and whom I’d surely like, in person. A good number of our customers are middle-aged and older folks trying to fit in some activity as they age. They often have the means, and they’re influenced by what they read and see that promotes racers as a good model — and that’s something I don’t agree with. They shop as innocents and come out of it dressed like racers and riding bikes that are not only inappropriate for the kind of riding they do, but are, on top of that and more egregiously, not comfortable. We undo that. You may see ego or evil behind it, but I don’t feel either of those. I see racing and racers as fringe and am simply trying to legitimize an alternative point of view, one that I feel strongly about. I’m trying — certainly not singlehandedly — to make people feel good about riding without dressing in pro-team gear and copying so many other affectations of the racer, and that is what Unracing and *Just Ride *and Rivendell Bicycle Works is all about. We’re nobody’s enemy. Some of my best friends pedal cliplessly and in spandex. It’s cool. Grant Petersen Walnut Creek, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
the angles make sense. i did a bit of digging and the hillborne and atlantis have the same tube dimensions, or at least that was true in 2010. i didnt think the sams were quite that stout, but that's cool. still curious about the hunq tubing. ive heard ox and kaisei. kaisei was named in the very first iterations of the hunqapillar. it was also listed as being .1 thicker than atlantis tubing. im not sure if that means proportionally, or straight gauge as has been mentioned herelikely all of this information has changed somewhat since it's original writing, right? also, im curious about Tim's seat tube issue since the more recent hunqs take a 27.2 seat post and it seems like his was meant to fit a 26.8, but couldnt even do that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question
curiosity got the best of me and i had it taken out/replaced (with a lovely phil bb purchased from this group). most of your analysis' were right on the money. some uncleanliness, slightly imperfect fit, possibly unchased shell etc made the initial install hard, but all is well and the threads are intact. thanks for calming me down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question
honestly, i doubt i kept a receipt for the work that was done. i figured that they must install bottom brackets multiple times a day, and everything was normal. the whole install took 10 minutes. it would be hard to prove and i can't imagine them willingly admitting to it. it seems like if it is all mucked up in there, that i still have options. which is very reassuring and i am sort of breathing normal again. i dont know if i can stand not knowing, so ill probably have it taken out to see what, if anything, is ruined. fingers crossed that you wont be replying to the thread where i ask for frame builder recommendations. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question
pb, yeah you're hitting on what i was just wondering about myself. the frame was new, but not straight from the factory. it had been at rivendell for a while. the riv bb install video says that they face+chase before sending out, but that video is from 2010, so i dont know if it still applies... IIRC the bottom bracket shell was not sparkling with cleanliness. i think there was a little oxidation and stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] bb/thread installation question
preface: im not much of a mechanic. i can install and adjust most allen wrenchy components, but beyond that, i go to a bike shop. so, i got my hunqapillar frame a few months ago and i got a standard issue shimano bb to have installed. took it to a local used bike shop and had the guys put it in, since i dont have the tool or previous knowledge of how to do this. i watched them and it looked like it was taking some work. hard cranking, working it in and out etc. grease was used, but they didnt chase it. it struck me as not the easiest/somewhat rough install, but id never seen one installed before, so what did i know... bike rides fine. bb is smooth, no sounds, no wiggle, no complaints. Cut to me, now, watching instructional videos. i stumble upon a bb install video and it seems like theirs went in much easier than mine. this makes me nervous. i call a higher end and reputable bike shop and tell them this story. mechanic says it might just be that it wasn't chased. it might be that they stripped the threads and if we take the bottom bracket out, one will never go back in again. i ask if what he would do if he was in this predicament. we can check it out, but i would maybe just ride it until you need a new bottom bracket because if the threads are gone, we cant fix it. obviously, this makes me infinitely more nervous and sick to my stomach. what can you tell me? what would you do? how likely is it that this is a deathblow? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question
thanks all for the one-way-or-another reassuring thoughts, experiences and ideas. i agree that the better shop may not be as prepared to do a creative workaround as i want. if it comes to that point, ill have to find a place that knows all the tricks you guys know. joe, im holding out that my experience will mirror your many non destructive experiences. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.
i think 54 would be too small. i am 5'9-5'10 with 86 pbh and i have a lot of stand over clearance on my 54cm. agree with patrick though. brian at riv will tell you exactly what you need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
i guess what im wondering is, if the hilsen has proprietary tubes, the atlantis has thick yet standard dbl butted tubes and the hunq has straight gauge, why are they all roughly the same price? obviously, tubing is far from the most expensive part of building a bike, but i assume that the labor intensiveness and lug-workmanship etc. is about the same on those 3 models. maybe not though... ive never built a bike frame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
i believe that's the same info that was floating around in the back of my head as well, Mike. but now im wondering if i gained it from a reputable source. pretty sure about the kaisei heat treated part. not so sure about the specs. and hunqapillars moved to waterford a while back. i guess it doesnt really matter. i love my bike so hard and not much is gonna change that, but i am kinda curious to know everything about it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories
i realize im responding to myself here. a couple things fell through and actually, im still looking for: -sprung brooks or something wide. -carradice camper or sackville med. -small front panniers. not sackville but around the size of the hub area panniers. On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:31:35 AM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike already, so this will be a less used, but sturdier travel bike that can be a little rough around the edges. used for s240 camping trips mostly. looking for these things or variations of these things. perhaps you have some stuff lying around that you dont need or stuff with a few scuffs here and there. ill put what i am hoping to spend. if you have something in that range or, better yet, stuff you just want gone, let me know *700x32-40 ish tires*. something with solid puncture protection. marathon, little big ben, panaracer tg (20-50$) *Pedals-* mks touring or grip king or thin gripster like, old mtb pedals etc (10-20$) . something that will work without clips or straps *seatpost-* 27.2. need not be nitto. silver (0-15$) *saddle- *female specific. wide-ish. comfy. ideally leather, but that's hard to do cheaply (60$) *rear rack-* pannier capable, steel or a good quality aluminum. again, nitto is probably too pricey. and a couple other things i am keeping my eye out for, budget be damned *Carradice camper or saddlesack med* *phil wood or skf bottom bracket 68x113* thanks, drew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
as a hunq owner, ive wondered this from the opposite (yet 100% satisfied) side. my impression is that there are a couple geometry tweaks and slightly thicker tubing? ive also wondered what makes the atlantis frames slightly more expensive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
really? straight gauge? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories
you guys are the best. i think im all set up. On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:31:35 AM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike already, so this will be a less used, but sturdier travel bike that can be a little rough around the edges. used for s240 camping trips mostly. looking for these things or variations of these things. perhaps you have some stuff lying around that you dont need or stuff with a few scuffs here and there. ill put what i am hoping to spend. if you have something in that range or, better yet, stuff you just want gone, let me know *700x32-40 ish tires*. something with solid puncture protection. marathon, little big ben, panaracer tg (20-50$) *Pedals-* mks touring or grip king or thin gripster like, old mtb pedals etc (10-20$) . something that will work without clips or straps *seatpost-* 27.2. need not be nitto. silver (0-15$) *saddle- *female specific. wide-ish. comfy. ideally leather, but that's hard to do cheaply (60$) *rear rack-* pannier capable, steel or a good quality aluminum. again, nitto is probably too pricey. and a couple other things i am keeping my eye out for, budget be damned *Carradice camper or saddlesack med* *phil wood or skf bottom bracket 68x113* thanks, drew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB various parts/accessories
catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike already, so this will be a less used, but sturdier travel bike that can be a little rough around the edges. used for s240 camping trips mostly. looking for these things or variations of these things. perhaps you have some stuff lying around that you dont need or stuff with a few scuffs here and there. ill put what i am hoping to spend. if you have something in that range or, better yet, stuff you just want gone, let me know *700x32-40 ish tires*. something with solid puncture protection. marathon, little big ben, panaracer tg (20-50$) *Pedals-* mks touring or grip king or thin gripster like, old mtb pedals etc (10-20$) . something that will work without clips or straps *seatpost-* 27.2. need not be nitto. silver (0-15$) *saddle- *female specific. wide-ish. comfy. ideally leather, but that's hard to do cheaply (60$) *rear rack-* pannier capable, steel or a good quality aluminum. again, nitto is probably too pricey. and a couple other things i am keeping my eye out for, budget be damned *Carradice camper or saddlesack med* *phil wood or skf bottom bracket 68x113* thanks, drew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] MB2 as budget tourer
so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing interest in joining me. she is a great camper already, though slow to warm to bicycles. id like to start setting up a reasonably capable and attractive (touring) bike for her, but i dont want to go too far into the money pit because i'm not sure how long this interest will endure. at the same time, i cannot really abide a crappy bike, or a bike that is good but looks crappy. so im looking for a middle ground with a final build less than 500$. (lots of parts lying around should make this doable) i found this '85 mb2 on ebay. 1985 bridgestone mb2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Bridgestone-MB-2-Commuter-REFURBISHED-Shadow-Blue-Gold-Shimano-4130-Chromo-/141498139737?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item20f1f24459 im aware that there are maybe some slightly more capable bikes in the price range, but this has lugs and is pretty, which will be a selling point. the size is right for her and everything. you guys know more about these than i do, so.. is this a reasonable price? any issues that would prevent this from working as an occasional tourer? any better options that fulfill the affordable/reliable/attractive criteria? anyone know the rear spacing? 126 might be a deal breaker. thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer
ah yes, good point. i am familiar with those early 80's mtb angles and havent ever really found them to be a problem, but youre right to point out a newish rider might not feel the same. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:14:24 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing interest in joining me. she is a great camper already, though slow to warm to bicycles. id like to start setting up a reasonably capable and attractive (touring) bike for her, but i dont want to go too far into the money pit because i'm not sure how long this interest will endure. at the same time, i cannot really abide a crappy bike, or a bike that is good but looks crappy. so im looking for a middle ground with a final build less than 500$. (lots of parts lying around should make this doable) i found this '85 mb2 on ebay. 1985 bridgestone mb2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Bridgestone-MB-2-Commuter-REFURBISHED-Shadow-Blue-Gold-Shimano-4130-Chromo-/141498139737?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item20f1f24459 im aware that there are maybe some slightly more capable bikes in the price range, but this has lugs and is pretty, which will be a selling point. the size is right for her and everything. you guys know more about these than i do, so.. is this a reasonable price? any issues that would prevent this from working as an occasional tourer? any better options that fulfill the affordable/reliable/attractive criteria? anyone know the rear spacing? 126 might be a deal breaker. thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer
thanks mike, that specific info helps a ton. straight gauge tubing is something id definitely like to steer clear of. im in los angeles, so i dont think i can take that off your hands, but i appreciate the offer. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:08:11 PM UTC-8, velomann wrote: I have one of those bikes - don't even want to say what I paid at a garage sale, but cheap. It's been a good town bike that I haven't done much to but put a rack on, and I like the geometry for that use. Also, that kind of french blue is a sweet color, IMHO. But...it's a heavy beast. Keep in mind that in 85 (and maybe 86?) the MB-2 was straight gauge tubing and it feels like it on the road (and when you carry it up the basement stairs!) I'd keep looking for something a bit more lively. Where are you located? I have a small 93 MB-4 (for some reason BS went back to a Japanese lugged frame that year for the MB-4) that I'd sell if you were local. Full eyelets and everything with a better (to some) geometry than the 85 you're looking at. I'm in PDX. Needs a cleaning. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer
thanks for the advice. unfortunately, dropping $2,000 is not a realistic option for my budget... though that would be nice. my extra components are mostly vintage, and would work most easily on another vintage frame anyway. pudge, that's good to hear/yours is great looking. i would also albatross it. i think drop bars would be a scary deal-breaker for her. those pictures may have just sold me. tony, im with you on the budget. unfortunately lm in los angeles and the bike market is a little inflated. anything of reasonable quality is at least 250$... though occasionally someone has something they know nothing about. i'd like to stick with a brand i know (miyata, trek, bridgestone, specialized). On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:14:24 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing interest in joining me. she is a great camper already, though slow to warm to bicycles. id like to start setting up a reasonably capable and attractive (touring) bike for her, but i dont want to go too far into the money pit because i'm not sure how long this interest will endure. at the same time, i cannot really abide a crappy bike, or a bike that is good but looks crappy. so im looking for a middle ground with a final build less than 500$. (lots of parts lying around should make this doable) i found this '85 mb2 on ebay. 1985 bridgestone mb2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Bridgestone-MB-2-Commuter-REFURBISHED-Shadow-Blue-Gold-Shimano-4130-Chromo-/141498139737?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item20f1f24459 im aware that there are maybe some slightly more capable bikes in the price range, but this has lugs and is pretty, which will be a selling point. the size is right for her and everything. you guys know more about these than i do, so.. is this a reasonable price? any issues that would prevent this from working as an occasional tourer? any better options that fulfill the affordable/reliable/attractive criteria? anyone know the rear spacing? 126 might be a deal breaker. thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling
i have 700x50 big apples on dyad rims. i think the dyad and aeroheat are the same width. no problems with the tires yet, and they are riv approved. that being said, the chart on sheldon brown seems to indicate that they are too large for the dyad rim width. the chart on the schwalbe site says it's no problem as long as they are inflated no more than 45 psi (if im remembering this all correctly.) to my eye, which are more used to smaller tires, they look slightly too big for the rim. at any rate, they work. i ride them and i've had no problems, but i do have a semi anxious voice in the back of my mind about it sometimes. On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 2:29:09 PM UTC-8, DS wrote: Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or balloon type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents? Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the trails and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride home). Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi rear), but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like the bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I took them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, so maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any comments on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly sensitive due to the crash and this is user error? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: tektro CR720 cantis, Stainless Front Rack, SR Sakae Randnner handlebars
handlebars are gone. brakes and rack are still here On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 at 7:30:21 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: *-Tektro CR720 cantilevers. - * 40$ shipped 2 pairs (bike's worth) basically brand new. maybe 25 miles on them. silver finish *-LKLM stainless steel front rack-* 85$ shipped impulsively pulled the trigger on this front rack from chinese touring brand lklm. someone on crazyguyonabike was impressed by them, and it wasn't super pricey, so i took a chance. stainless tubular cr-mo (very similar to tubus). 55lb capacity. fits 700c bikes. i really wanted this to work, as i was also impressed when i received it. the LBS was also super into it too. the design seems somewhat unique and to solve some of the problems of integrating lowriders and a flat top area. unfortunately, with 50mm tires on my hunqapillar, it didnt comfortably leave enough room for fenders. requires mid-fork eyelets. here are some photos. i can send you some of my own, if youre interested. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=Shpic_id=1876748size=large http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mgxj4LqnLcPWdyfeUth_1DQ.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MnkG9NMP-Xk/U_K9AaJ3IgI/Cfg/GO7fm3Z_plI/s1600/p1.jpg *Vintage Sakae RANDNNER bars-* 18$ shipped i have 2 of these that came off of miyata 1000s circa '85. just want them gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: tektro CR720 cantis, Stainless Front Rack, SR Sakae Randnner handlebars
*-Tektro CR720 cantilevers. - * 40$ shipped 2 pairs (bike's worth) basically brand new. maybe 25 miles on them. silver finish *-LKLM stainless steel front rack-* 85$ shipped impulsively pulled the trigger on this front rack from chinese touring brand lklm. someone on crazyguyonabike was impressed by them, and it wasn't super pricey, so i took a chance. stainless tubular cr-mo (very similar to tubus). 55lb capacity. fits 700c bikes. i really wanted this to work, as i was also impressed when i received it. the LBS was also super into it too. the design seems somewhat unique and to solve some of the problems of integrating lowriders and a flat top area. unfortunately, with 50mm tires on my hunqapillar, it didnt comfortably leave enough room for fenders. requires mid-fork eyelets. here are some photos. i can send you some of my own, if youre interested. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/pic/?o=Shpic_id=1876748size=large http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mgxj4LqnLcPWdyfeUth_1DQ.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MnkG9NMP-Xk/U_K9AaJ3IgI/Cfg/GO7fm3Z_plI/s1600/p1.jpg *Vintage Sakae RANDNNER bars-* 18$ shipped i have 2 of these that came off of miyata 1000s circa '85. just want them gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub?
yeah, this is really interesting. i dont need a wheel built or anything, but this hub seems like something nice to have around in case. i dont know anything about this sort of adjustable axle. can anyone testify to potential downsides of this design? On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 4:23:26 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I know Paul Components is thought of well around here, I love the brakes and levers I have for sure. One of their niche hubs just went on sale, the Jono... anyone have any experience w/ them? It's got an incredibly adjustable axle allowing you to build it up as anywhere from 120-135mm OLD and use a multi-speed freewheel. I happen to have a '70s ish era frame w/ narrow spacing around that is right now limited to single speed/fixie use b/c I don't have a narrower multispeed hub so it's pretty compelling at $105 new from Paul. I'd been stalking a couple vintage used hubsets on the auction site but hadn't pulled the trigger. I figure I can't go wrong w/ a Paul hub but I figured I'd check in with the group! http://www.paulcomp.com/jonohub.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: O'Neill Park in Orange County California
awesome! i never considered orange county as a camping possibility. might have to make the trip down from la. looks beautiful. On Monday, January 5, 2015 1:34:13 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: Hi, Went for my first overnight of 2015 last weekend. Took the train from downtown San Diego to Irvine last Saturday. Rode a very pleasant 17 miles or so to O'Neill Park in Eastern Orange County. The ride was mostly on bikeway and dirt paths. Night time temps dropped to the low 30's despite the warmth of a full moon. Woke up to a good deal of frost on the tent fly come morning. On the trail by 6:30 am to catch an early train back to San Diego. A very nice time even considering the loss of my phone. A poorly turned turn buckle allowed the phone to bounce out. The phone was found and returned the very same day. People are awesome. Here are a few pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157650114997061/ Ride well, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: city hunqapillar/first real ride
those are 50 big apples. had them around for another project and put them on until i could work up the money and research for something else, but im liking them a lot so far. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:10:36 PM UTC-8, DS wrote: Nice! What tires are you using? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: city hunqapillar/first real ride
sheesh, beautiful bike, Shoji. looks like a workhorse. bob, youre right about the racks, i had a pizza on the front by the end of the trip... and they look good too. On Monday, December 29, 2014 5:23:12 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: got tired of waiting for upcoming trips and decided to start working off some of the new hunqapillar's shine in los angeles. handled like a dream even with somewhat unnecessary racks, fenders and a bag. did get some looks though. good, bad and confused looks. i think the only guys who passed me had future bikes and wore jerseys, so perhaps this bike is not as overboard for the city as i thought. even took it up some hills that i avoid on my 80's road bike. 35 miles round trip. downtown LA to burbank and back in a non efficent route. couldn't be happier with this little test run. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Double Tube Raleigh
that thing looks crazy. id like to get a closer look. interesting find. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:18:41 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote: Anyone ever see one of these before? http://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/4817696502.html David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: shimano cx-70 canti question
thanks everyone. it appears i am not that much of an idiot/this problem is not uncommon, which is both good and bad news. it seems like some sort of qr or in line adjuster thing is needed to get them to do what i want aaron, i had the tektro 720s previously installed. they worked just fine. they were a little harder to set up and adjust than the shimanos and they werent finished as nicely. shimanos seem to modulate a bit better. still, totally adequate brakes. i would be curious about combining that dia compe quick release with them. could be much cheaper and better working alternative to what we are trying to do... but then there is the back wheel too... garth, i have them on a hunqapillar. your points are well taken and get to the science of what i was trying to understand. that makes a lot of sense. On Friday, December 19, 2014 6:33:17 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: ok, i feel like this is going to end with me missing something obvious. i just got the cx-70 brakes to avoid having to deflate/squeeze my 700x50 tires everytime i want to take the wheels off. im not so new to cantilever brakes but somewhat new to big tires that prevent easy on and off. riv's site sort of implies that they open up easy enough and this video shows a guy doing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7f-v3Rmts (skip to 1:04) here is the description and pics of it opened up http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm in my reality, when set up and adjusted correctly, it doesnt seem possible to slip the hanger cable from the brake. there isnt enough slack to get the cable to slide out of that little slot, it seems. if the brakes are super wide, i can get it to go, but it has to be uncomfortably far from the rim. adjusting the inline barrel to it's slackest doesnt really work either. so... am i missing something, and if so, what? id like to avoid deflating or loosening the other side of the cable hanger and then readjusting the brakes all over again. i couldve done that with the old brakes. many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] shimano cx-70 canti question
ok, i feel like this is going to end with me missing something obvious. i just got the cx-70 brakes to avoid having to deflate/squeeze my 700x50 tires everytime i want to take the wheels off. im not so new to cantilever brakes but somewhat new to big tires that prevent easy on and off. riv's site sort of implies that they open up easy enough and this video shows a guy doing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA7f-v3Rmts (skip to 1:04) here is the description and pics of it opened up http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm in my reality, when set up and adjusted correctly, it doesnt seem possible to slip the hanger cable from the brake. there isnt enough slack to get the cable to slide out of that little slot, it seems. if the brakes are super wide, i can get it to go, but it has to be uncomfortably far from the rim. adjusting the inline barrel to it's slackest doesnt really work either. so... am i missing something, and if so, what? id like to avoid deflating or loosening the other side of the cable hanger and then readjusting the brakes all over again. i couldve done that with the old brakes. many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Nitto big front rack q / hello
Hey, I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended up attaching the rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've seen before. Lower fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the inside of the fork. So here are my questions: Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm of clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)? Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the second attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? Etc etc etc. Pics should be attached. Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello
Haha yeah, the idea of having 2 sets of braze ons that close and neither of them being all that useable is quite frustrating. I probably need to just stop fighting it and resign myself to the p-clamps Though that chainring hack looks pretty good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
