[RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-25 Thread Chris Corral 
+1 vote for Shutter precision and IQX combo. Mine has survived storms and 
rivers 

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread Eric Norris 
No … the IQ-X is far, far brighter. The Magnic Lights aren’t as bright, but 
they are bright enough to ride by, are always on, and have virtually no drag. 

It’s all about trade-offs.

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> On Jul 21, 2017, at 12:00 PM, lum gim fong  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info Eric. You like them better than using your IQX? They 
> sound excellent. 
> 
> But alas, after crashes and injury due to 28mm and narrower tires getting 
> hung up in sidewalk/pavement liips/cracks. I don't like riding anything 
> narrower than 38mm wide tires.
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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread Bob K. 
I'm waiting on my pre-ordered Sinewave Beacon headlight + USB charger combo. 
It's a really cool system with a ton of interesting perks, including the 
particularly neat way you can charge an external battery pack from the light 
while also relying on it for power when you're traveling at low speeds. Not to 
mention it's MUSA and the owner of the company has been incredibly responsive 
to my communications, even offering to loan me a prototype unit for a trip I 
just took because production was just slightly behind schedule. 

https://www.sinewavecycles.com/products/sinewave-cycles-beacon

I'll be using an SP PD-8 hub. I don't know anything about drag and don't think 
I'll notice.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread Orc 
The big problem with the magniclight is that the lamp is integrated with 
the generator so you're stuck with the crappy lamp unless you're willing to 
hand-modify the thing.

I suspect you could drive an IQ-X off one of those things (I regularly run 
an IQ-X + taillight off a Shimano 1n70) though it might take longer to 
charge the standlight circuit and get ignition.

-david parsons

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 11:07:57 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Lum:
>
> Regarding your question about alternative lighting systems—I’ve been using 
> Magnic Lights for several years now, both their first and second 
> generations (https://www.magniclight.com/en/) The lights stay on the bike 
> and serve as daytime running lights. I know they use some of my effort to 
> generate light, but I can honestly say that you can’t feel any drag. None.
>
> The lights work well, and the second generation works much better than the 
> first. I’ve used them successfully for nighttime riding, always with a 
> helmet-mounted headlight. If you need super-bright lights they are probably 
> not the best choice, but out in the country and away from streetlights they 
> are plenty bright for me. YMMV
>
> The taillights (and especially the second generation) are very bright. The 
> newer model also adds several modes (flashing vs steady, etc.) and acts as 
> a brake light, blinking when you slow down.
>
> I have had zero problems with mine.
>
> The least desirable part of the system for me is the way the front lights 
> mount. Because they have to be close to the rim, they don’t clear wide 
> tires (wider than about 28C) very easily. Magnic Light’s nicest mount runs 
> close to the wheel and won’t work with tires wider than 28C. 
>
> Contact me offline if you’re interested in more info. You can also use 
> Google to find a number of online reviews.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:50 AM, lum gim fong  > wrote:
>
> *I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight 
> and was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights 
> currently are.*
>
> By best, I mean:
>
> 1. Least drag
> 2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
> light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
> 3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
> for cornering light?
> 4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
> atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep 
> moisture out.
> 5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.
>
>
> Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:
>
> *Hubs:*
>
> SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, 
> depending on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. 
> Depends on who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that 
> water pressure protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection 
> from elements than the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now 
> has this technology.
>
> *Lights:*
>
> B&M IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
> Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
> edeluxII  second place?
>
> *2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, 
> technology for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point 
> altogether. Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.*
>
> *3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something 
> newer that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?*
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv 
I'm very happily using the SP PV8 and IQ-X It's my 1st try at dynamo lighting 
so I don't have anything to compare it to. Works great for my year round pretty 
urban commute. Probably more than I need actually. Suppose you can't have too 
much light. 

Jay 

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread lum gim fong 
Thanks for the info Eric. You like them better than using your IQX? They sound 
excellent. 

But alas, after crashes and injury due to 28mm and narrower tires getting hung 
up in sidewalk/pavement liips/cracks. I don't like riding anything narrower 
than 38mm wide tires.

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread Eric Norris 
Lum:

Regarding your question about alternative lighting systems—I’ve been using 
Magnic Lights for several years now, both their first and second generations 
(https://www.magniclight.com/en/ ) The lights 
stay on the bike and serve as daytime running lights. I know they use some of 
my effort to generate light, but I can honestly say that you can’t feel any 
drag. None.

The lights work well, and the second generation works much better than the 
first. I’ve used them successfully for nighttime riding, always with a 
helmet-mounted headlight. If you need super-bright lights they are probably not 
the best choice, but out in the country and away from streetlights they are 
plenty bright for me. YMMV

The taillights (and especially the second generation) are very bright. The 
newer model also adds several modes (flashing vs steady, etc.) and acts as a 
brake light, blinking when you slow down.

I have had zero problems with mine.

The least desirable part of the system for me is the way the front lights 
mount. Because they have to be close to the rim, they don’t clear wide tires 
(wider than about 28C) very easily. Magnic Light’s nicest mount runs close to 
the wheel and won’t work with tires wider than 28C. 

Contact me offline if you’re interested in more info. You can also use Google 
to find a number of online reviews.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:50 AM, lum gim fong  wrote:
> 
> I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight and 
> was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights currently 
> are.
> 
> By best, I mean:
> 
> 1. Least drag
> 2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
> light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
> 3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
> for cornering light?
> 4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
> atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep moisture 
> out.
> 5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.
> 
> 
> Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:
> 
> Hubs:
> 
> SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, depending 
> on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. Depends on 
> who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that water pressure 
> protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection from elements than 
> the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now has this technology.
> 
> Lights:
> 
> B&M IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
> Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
> edeluxII  second place?
> 
> 2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, technology 
> for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point altogether. 
> Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.
> 
> 3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something newer 
> that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
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[RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

2017-07-21 Thread lum gim fong 
*I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight 
and was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights 
currently are.*

By best, I mean:

1. Least drag
2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
for cornering light?
4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep 
moisture out.
5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.


Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:

*Hubs:*

SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, depending 
on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. Depends on 
who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that water pressure 
protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection from elements 
than the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now has this 
technology.

*Lights:*

B&M IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
edeluxII  second place?

*2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, 
technology for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point 
altogether. Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.*

*3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something 
newer that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?*


Thanks for the info.

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