Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-23 Thread Evan Baird
I'm so excited for the Klamper brakes. I stopped by the booth to play with 
them and they felt dialed. Simple adjustment knobs, and bigger than the 
Avids. I think they might work well with compression-less housing and Paul 
Love Levers. Nitto had some pretty stuff as usual. Panaracer is coming out 
with their own B+ tires and a snot load of new 650b 42mm tires too!

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-23 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm dialed in on those new Panarcer FatBNimble 650B+ tires.  3 wide mid 
fat tire.  Should fit nicely on my 29er.  No need for 29+!
May even switch from  Hydros to the Klampers too.

~mike
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[RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
My cousin manages a largish shop in Southern California.  My brother in law 
is close friends with the owner of Jenson USA.  I saw my cousin and my 
brother in law this weekend, and got two juicy rumors from Interbike.  

1.  Paul is making Disc brake calipers, called the Klamper.
2.  Phil Wood showed a 13 speed cassette hub.  

I don't know if the hub thing is a joke, like Sheldons ultra microdrive 
thing.  I'm curious about disc brakes, but have never felt the need to have 
them.  Paul getting in the game is interesting.  

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread Geoff Klingsporn
The Paul disc calipers are not a rumor, but an actual thing:
http://theradavist.com/2014/09/paul-component-klamper-road-cross-disc-brakes-coming-soon/

The Phil 13-speed is a prototype, currently fatbike-only.
http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/INTERBIKE-Part-2-Some-of-the-Latest-and-Greatest-for-2015,8119/Prototype-13-Speed-Phil-Wood-Hub,82146/bturman,109


Geoff
(Denver)

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 My cousin manages a largish shop in Southern California.  My brother in
 law is close friends with the owner of Jenson USA.  I saw my cousin and my
 brother in law this weekend, and got two juicy rumors from Interbike.

 1.  Paul is making Disc brake calipers, called the Klamper.
 2.  Phil Wood showed a 13 speed cassette hub.

 I don't know if the hub thing is a joke, like Sheldons ultra microdrive
 thing.  I'm curious about disc brakes, but have never felt the need to have
 them.  Paul getting in the game is interesting.

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Broach
Yeah, the Paul calipers caught my eye, too. There's some useful discussion
http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/new-mechanical-disc-caliper-pauls-38199.html
on vsalon. I've been trying to get up to speed on discs in case the XL
Elephant stock run actually happens for me this winter. Don't think I'll go
13-speed, though--ha!

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 My cousin manages a largish shop in Southern California.  My brother in
 law is close friends with the owner of Jenson USA.  I saw my cousin and my
 brother in law this weekend, and got two juicy rumors from Interbike.

 1.  Paul is making Disc brake calipers, called the Klamper.
 2.  Phil Wood showed a 13 speed cassette hub.

 I don't know if the hub thing is a joke, like Sheldons ultra microdrive
 thing.  I'm curious about disc brakes, but have never felt the need to have
 them.  Paul getting in the game is interesting.

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
You heard it here, folks.  Joe Broach is holding out for a 14-speed 
cassetteFACT!

:-)

On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:08:30 PM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:

 Yeah, the Paul calipers caught my eye, too. There's some useful discussion 
 http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/new-mechanical-disc-caliper-pauls-38199.html
  
 on vsalon. I've been trying to get up to speed on discs in case the XL 
 Elephant stock run actually happens for me this winter. Don't think I'll go 
 13-speed, though--ha!

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 My cousin manages a largish shop in Southern California.  My brother in 
 law is close friends with the owner of Jenson USA.  I saw my cousin and my 
 brother in law this weekend, and got two juicy rumors from Interbike.  

 1.  Paul is making Disc brake calipers, called the Klamper.
 2.  Phil Wood showed a 13 speed cassette hub.  

 I don't know if the hub thing is a joke, like Sheldons ultra microdrive 
 thing.  I'm curious about disc brakes, but have never felt the need to have 
 them.  Paul getting in the game is interesting.  

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Broach
​
​
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 You heard it here, folks.  Joe Broach is holding out for a 14-speed
 cassetteFACT!


​You know, with a triple that could just be the answer to life, the
universe, and everything. Probably only if friction shifted, though.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or ​


​

​​
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 You heard it here, folks.  Joe Broach is holding out for a 14-speed
 cassetteFACT!

 :-)

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:08:30 PM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:

 Yeah, the Paul calipers caught my eye, too. There's some useful
 discussion
 http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/new-mechanical-disc-caliper-pauls-38199.html
 on vsalon. I've been trying to get up to speed on discs in case the XL
 Elephant stock run actually happens for me this winter. Don't think I'll go
 13-speed, though--ha!

 Best,
 joe broach
 portland, or

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 My cousin manages a largish shop in Southern California.  My brother in
 law is close friends with the owner of Jenson USA.  I saw my cousin and my
 brother in law this weekend, and got two juicy rumors from Interbike.

 1.  Paul is making Disc brake calipers, called the Klamper.
 2.  Phil Wood showed a 13 speed cassette hub.

 I don't know if the hub thing is a joke, like Sheldons ultra microdrive
 thing.  I'm curious about disc brakes, but have never felt the need to have
 them.  Paul getting in the game is interesting.

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Re: [RBW] Favorite new rumors from the industry, Interbike-ish stuff

2014-09-22 Thread tarik saleh
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote:

Yeah, the Paul calipers caught my eye, too. There's some useful discussion
http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/new-mechanical-disc-caliper-pauls-38199.html
on vsalon.


Ack, barely useful discussion. The key point is kind of buried and lost to
most of the initial commenters,  clearly stated earlier and elsewhere, the
brakes are made to work with drop bar or other short pull levers. They are
meant to work on cross bikes or road bikes or other drop bar disc brake
bikes.  Not really in competition with hydraulics on your mountain bike.
But yes, the brakes would be ideal for an Elephant NFE.

I did get to play with them a bit, they feel great and they seemed to work
nicely with an actual wheel mounted on a fork with a drop lever.  the fork
was clamped to to the display, no actual riding on them.  The pad adjust
wheel seemed smoother and easier than Avid Mechanicals, no idea how it will
fare in use, but it was pretty simple and smooth.  I am going to guess they
will work much better than BB7roads, they are lighter, and will cost much
more ($230 or so a wheel) , also much nicer to look at. The silver orange
is really really nice looking.

Here is my picture of em, same as the rest:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/targetsalad/15213783586/

Paul said they are in production over the winter, there will be a few
tweaks to the design shown at interbike,  I/you/we have until spring to
figure out what bike to put them on.

Tarik

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