Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
To add to what Tim listed. YOu need a set of metric, open ended wrenches as well. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Max Bergen wrote: > Thanks everyone! > > I'm familiar with assembling and installing most parts on a bike (except > BB and derailleurs), but I feel much more prepared after you all have > shared tips, advice and insight from your personal experiences. > > BTW, I live in San Diego. I'll be building the bike with my buddy the > first weekend in April, but if anyone here lives in the area and wants to > help out/hangout eat some pizza and drink beer...let me know. > > Cheers, > Max > > On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 8:57:34 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Max Bergen wrote: >> >>> My Hunq is being delivered in a few days and I plan on building the bike >>> myself. I was hoping some folks would have helpful resources on process >>> and tools for installing: >>> >>> -BB: I think Rivendell uses Shimano bbs, no? So, splined BB tool and big >>> crescent wrench. >>> >> >> >>> -crankset: To install, 14 mm socket, but to remove, get the Park bb >>> removal tool. >>> >> >> >>> -derailleurs: 4 and 5 mm allen wrenches >>> >> >> >>> -chain: Me, I always use a master link, but you'll want a chain tool to >>> cut the chain to length. >>> >> >> >>> -brakes and levers and cables: 4 or just possibly 5 mm allens. >>> >> >> >>> -thumbie shifters and cables: 4 mm allen; possibly Phillips screwdriver. >>> >> >> Also: cable and housing cutters -- I like separate tools, but Park makes >> a combo tool. I *have* cut cables and housing using a chisel and hammer, >> but then you need a file to clean up the cuts on the housing (you should >> clean them up in any case). >> >> You also need some way of holding the bike upright and still while you >> work on it. I've assembled and disassembled many bikes simply lying flat on >> the floor, or else leaning against a wall (held up by my head as needed) >> but believe me it's much easier of you have a stand. You can get by with >> hooks hung from the ceiling, though these won't hold the bike still. >> >> (As a expat teenager, I did complete teardowns and build ups using >> nothing more than vise grips, hammer, chisel, screwdriver, and pipe wrench; >> these bikes had old loose bearing bb assemblies and I used the hammer with >> a nail to adjust the movable cup and lockring -- a fraught process indeed. >> The nail, with a big nut as anvil, also broke and re-assembled chains.) >> >> >>> Thanks! >>> -Max >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten >> >> >> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a >> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and >> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu >> >> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the >> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto >> >> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart >> >> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle >> >> *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie >> cosmique, ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le >> Sens du Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979 >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Thanks everyone! I'm familiar with assembling and installing most parts on a bike (except BB and derailleurs), but I feel much more prepared after you all have shared tips, advice and insight from your personal experiences. BTW, I live in San Diego. I'll be building the bike with my buddy the first weekend in April, but if anyone here lives in the area and wants to help out/hangout eat some pizza and drink beer...let me know. Cheers, Max On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 8:57:34 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Max Bergen > wrote: > >> My Hunq is being delivered in a few days and I plan on building the bike >> myself. I was hoping some folks would have helpful resources on process >> and tools for installing: >> >> -BB: I think Rivendell uses Shimano bbs, no? So, splined BB tool and big >> crescent wrench. >> > > >> -crankset: To install, 14 mm socket, but to remove, get the Park bb >> removal tool. >> > > >> -derailleurs: 4 and 5 mm allen wrenches >> > > >> -chain: Me, I always use a master link, but you'll want a chain tool to >> cut the chain to length. >> > > >> -brakes and levers and cables: 4 or just possibly 5 mm allens. >> > > >> -thumbie shifters and cables: 4 mm allen; possibly Phillips screwdriver. >> > > Also: cable and housing cutters -- I like separate tools, but Park makes a > combo tool. I *have* cut cables and housing using a chisel and hammer, > but then you need a file to clean up the cuts on the housing (you should > clean them up in any case). > > You also need some way of holding the bike upright and still while you > work on it. I've assembled and disassembled many bikes simply lying flat on > the floor, or else leaning against a wall (held up by my head as needed) > but believe me it's much easier of you have a stand. You can get by with > hooks hung from the ceiling, though these won't hold the bike still. > > (As a expat teenager, I did complete teardowns and build ups using nothing > more than vise grips, hammer, chisel, screwdriver, and pipe wrench; these > bikes had old loose bearing bb assemblies and I used the hammer with a nail > to adjust the movable cup and lockring -- a fraught process indeed. The > nail, with a big nut as anvil, also broke and re-assembled chains.) > > >> Thanks! >> -Max >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ** > ** > *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a > circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and > individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu > > *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the > world revolves.) *Carthusian motto > > *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart > > *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle > > *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique, > ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du > Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979 > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Max Bergen wrote: > My Hunq is being delivered in a few days and I plan on building the bike > myself. I was hoping some folks would have helpful resources on process > and tools for installing: > > -BB: I think Rivendell uses Shimano bbs, no? So, splined BB tool and big > crescent wrench. > > -crankset: To install, 14 mm socket, but to remove, get the Park bb > removal tool. > > -derailleurs: 4 and 5 mm allen wrenches > > -chain: Me, I always use a master link, but you'll want a chain tool to > cut the chain to length. > > -brakes and levers and cables: 4 or just possibly 5 mm allens. > > -thumbie shifters and cables: 4 mm allen; possibly Phillips screwdriver. > Also: cable and housing cutters -- I like separate tools, but Park makes a combo tool. I *have* cut cables and housing using a chisel and hammer, but then you need a file to clean up the cuts on the housing (you should clean them up in any case). You also need some way of holding the bike upright and still while you work on it. I've assembled and disassembled many bikes simply lying flat on the floor, or else leaning against a wall (held up by my head as needed) but believe me it's much easier of you have a stand. You can get by with hooks hung from the ceiling, though these won't hold the bike still. (As a expat teenager, I did complete teardowns and build ups using nothing more than vise grips, hammer, chisel, screwdriver, and pipe wrench; these bikes had old loose bearing bb assemblies and I used the hammer with a nail to adjust the movable cup and lockring -- a fraught process indeed. The nail, with a big nut as anvil, also broke and re-assembled chains.) > Thanks! > -Max > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the world revolves.) *Carthusian motto *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle *Le sacre est la projection du Centre celeste dans la peripherie cosmique, ou du "Moteur immobile" dans le flux des choses. *F Schuon, *Le Sens du Sacre, *Etudes Traditionnelles, 1r q 1979 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
For decades I owned a Park professional shop stand and a few years ago I sold it in an effort to clear up some space. I don't miss it a bit. I don't build as many bikes as I used to but still build some and do lots of maintenance. I would buy a bench mount stand if I ever bought another stand. Same Pro quality clamp but they can be mounted to a bench or a post. Good way to free up some floor space and just slide it into the collar when you need it. I also like the VAR ceiling hooks, does anyone know of a source for those? They could live in my carport, hung up out of the way. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Max, How fun! Building your own bike is a joy and source of pride. It will serve you into the future as you understand, work on, and repair your bike. Buy a stand if you want. But you can get by just fine with two hooks in the ceiling and cords at the saddle back and stem. No doubt a stand is better, but it can wait. This reminds me of building up my first racing frame back in 1977. Installing the freewheel (cursed things, thanks be for cassettes) on my Campy Record hub, I cross threaded it! I drove into nearby Denver to have a pro mechanic repair the hub. I remember the elderly European shop owner shaking his head and telling me I didn't deserve to ride such nice equipment. :-} The hub lasted through 15 years of hard riding, holding the freewheel with just a few threads. I tried to earn the right to ride Campy components. So you may make mistakes but you and the bike will survive. A paint chip or two will be badges of mechanical courage and will allow you to ride it out in the real world with less trepidation. Let a shop install the headset and bottom bracket. Have fun! Joe in GJT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Add the Shimano Dealer's Manual (from Shimano Tech Docs) to that and 95% of any questions you may have will be covered. On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 3:36:52 PM UTC-4, Mattt wrote: > > Park tool blue book. It is worth the price. > > > http://www.parktool.com/product/big-blue-book-of-bicycle-repair-3rd-edition-bbb-3 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Park tool blue book. It is worth the price. http://www.parktool.com/product/big-blue-book-of-bicycle-repair-3rd-edition-bbb-3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Also Park Tools help section. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help You'll need basic tools for install: Hex (Allen) wrenches, usually 3 mm - 8 mm BB tool, specific for your BB. Chain tool (not specific unless you're using Campy 11s chain) Cable cutters (diagonal pliers work, but dedicated bike cable cutters are way better) Diagonal pliers Needle-nose pliers. 15 mm wrench for pedals The specific tools may be available at a bike co-op, if you have one nearby. But if you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me. On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Bob K. wrote: > Hey Max, > > My tip would be to do a Google search for "Sheldon Brown ___" > (insert item to install in the blank). Or just browse the site. > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/ > > Youtube is also super, really, wonderfully helpful. You can find a Youtube > video to show you how to do almost anything. > > And lastly, having a general bike maintenance book lying around your > shop/garage is a great resource, too, but I only use one because I don't > have internet access in my bike shop. > > Best of luck, and have fun with it! I built my first bike from headset-up > this past summer and it was a very rewarding experience. > > Bob K. in Baltimore > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
If you haven't done it before, a hunqapillar wouldn't be the bike I'd start with. I suggest doing build a bike course at your local co-op. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
Hey Max, My tip would be to do a Google search for "Sheldon Brown ___" (insert item to install in the blank). Or just browse the site. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/ Youtube is also super, really, wonderfully helpful. You can find a Youtube video to show you how to do almost anything. And lastly, having a general bike maintenance book lying around your shop/garage is a great resource, too, but I only use one because I don't have internet access in my bike shop. Best of luck, and have fun with it! I built my first bike from headset-up this past summer and it was a very rewarding experience. Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Helpful resources for building a bike at home?
My Hunq is being delivered in a few days and I plan on building the bike myself. I was hoping some folks would have helpful resources on process and tools for installing: -BB -crankset -derailleurs -chain -brakes and levers and cables -thumbie shifters and cables Thanks! -Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
