Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Bolt and spacer choices are what make rack installation fun! FWIW the HAR fits on both the upper and lower eyelets on my Gunnar, without spacers. It also turns out they work with the lower eyelets on the (Waterford built) Atlantis it’s just the lower eyelets on the (Toyo built) Saluki that don’t work. On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:33:55 AM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Turns out they won’t work from the lower eyelets regardless of tilt. At least not without replacing the bolts and adding spacers at the to all the connections. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag. :-) On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they end up being on the lower eyelets. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Turns out they won’t work from the lower eyelets regardless of tilt. At least not without replacing the bolts and adding spacers at the to all the connections. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag. :-) On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they end up being on the lower eyelets. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Bolt and spacer choices are what make rack installation fun! FWIW the HAR fits on both the upper and lower eyelets on my Gunnar, without spacers. On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:33:55 AM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Turns out they won’t work from the lower eyelets regardless of tilt. At least not without replacing the bolts and adding spacers at the to all the connections. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag. :-) On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they end up being on the lower eyelets. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Bill, I like your spirit AND I would like upper eyelets on my Sam! Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they end up being on the lower eyelets. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag. :-) On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they end up being on the lower eyelets. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips. Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of roof-rack mount. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
It shouldn't be all *that *hard to create a small L-shaped fitting that screws to the lower eyelets and provides upper eyelets *and* replacement lowers. It would take about 1.5 sq inches of sheet metal, max, a saw, and a drill. You could also make it out of aluminum and thread it it. Lots of options. Granted, they're all kind of hackish, but then so are band-on front derailers. ;-) On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:38:56 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Good trick, making an eyelet-doubler. Careful with loading and angles, don't want it moving around. RivHQ told me my Sam wasn't designed for substantial front loads therefore recommended Nitto mini+small basket not Nitto BFR+big basket. Seen a lot of big ones since, so might as well save $ and get the BFR. It's a shame to hide the beauty of fork bends, tips, dropouts, and SON hub behind bags anyway. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread. IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I went ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG More Photos of the setup https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/ On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides looking tilted. On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
I don't have the mid fork brake ons, so I guess the answer is no. Late 90s custom afaik, bought used in 2005. On Jul 8, 2014 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
I've encountered similar issues with other Nitto front racks. They work well on many bikes, but may require clamps or other custom solutions. I'm having a dickens of a time trying to mount a front rack for lowriders on my girlfriend's San Marcos. Obviously, this bike wasn't designed to be front rack friendly as much as more touring-oriented Rivs. I can appreciate the design work required to make the racks and frames pair up well! I tried to mount the Nitto Campee front, but it's too short to use the lower eyelets (it's a 26 model, so it has less clearance. I picked it up used, not knowing there are two sizes). I'm going to put on some Tubus Stay mounting clamps (#3 from Wayne at TheTouringStore http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm) in place of the upper eyelets, and then the Tubus Alloy fork mounts (#4 from the same page) for the upper stays. I also tried to mount a Nitto Big Front rack (34F) to the SM, but the mid-fork mount points are too wide to use p-clamps. Or, the SM fork is too narrow to reach. I thought about using a Nitto stay setup like on the Campee, but the mid-rack rails are too narrow to fit the Nitto rack bolt/nut http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh1-20184.htm. So far, the Big Front doesn't fit any of my bikes, unless I feel like bending the sides in dramatically. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have the mid fork brake ons, so I guess the answer is no. Late 90s custom afaik, bought used in 2005. On Jul 8, 2014 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
I only have one bike, a 64 cm green hillborne, and it doesn't have the double eyelets. I've always assumed that was a Wisconsin thing and not a mistake specific to my frame alone. Right? Anyways, I put a mini front rack on it and wasn't happy with how it felt with anything more than a couple bags of chips, been considering trying out a lowrider to see the difference. I guess that low rider won't be the HAR without some rigging to get it comfortable sharing the lower with my fender struts. I've thought about brazing some eyelets on but my skills aren't up to the challenge yet, something about compromising my fork's strength... Can anyone tell me approximately how much better a lowrider would feel with a few pounds on it compared to the mini front? I ride with my 2.75 year old on a stem mounted seat which sits his 30 some odd pounds behind the stem. It feels fine apart from knocking my knees on his seat, I assume mounting the load behind the axle as a lowrider does has a similar stabilizing effect? -Kai Vierstra, Brooklyn NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?
Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just fine. They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike? Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets. I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's worth, I paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out. Only now do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil and my Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well. Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not the end of the world but not ideal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
