[RBW] Introduction

[Takashi]

Hi all,
I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the 
first time to introduce myself.
I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
informations.
I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of 
English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

Photos of my Hunqapillar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

Takashi

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[RBW] Introduction

[NWAJack]

Welcome!

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[RBW] Introduction

[PATRICK MOORE]

Takashi: welcome to the list. Beautiful bike and beautiful photos. And your
English is quite good -- better than most American's Japanese!



On Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:17:38 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote:
Hi all, I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for
the first time to introduce myself.
I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and
informations.
I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of
English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

Photos of my Hunqapillar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

Takashi

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[RBW] Introduction

[jphillip...@me.com]

Hello Everyone,

I've wearied of lurking and decided to introduce myself. I'm not an RBW 
owner as of yet, but I have a Hunqapillar on order along with a Betty Foy 
for my wife. 

I wanted to thank everyone for sharing here, it has made the long wait 
somewhat sufferable, though I feel myself regressing toward petulant 
adolescence with each new day.

We will post photos when are bikes are finished and on the road, but until 
then I will have to get by on vicarious enjoyment of all your thrills.

Thanks much,

John 

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[RBW] Introduction

[Deacon Patrick]

Hello! I've posted on a few threads, but thought I should officially 
introduce myself.

I bought my Hunqapillar early last Spring, and have been delighted ever 
since. Due to brain injury, I have constant neurological vertigo. I was 
amazed to discover that my bludgeoned brain (see www.MindYourHeadCoop.org) 
and related proprioception via going barefoot had reached a point I could 
actually ride a bike. After testing out several and getting a feel for what 
worked and what was more challenging, I settled on Rivendell for it's 
hearty stiffness and go anywhere I'd be willing to ride capacity. I ride 
either barefoot or in leather soled moccasins on wood platform pedals Grant 
had laying around.

Last Spring and Summer, I was able to ride a number of S20Os as well as 9 
days on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail, going from central Colorado 
to the New Mexico border before a loud motorcycle overloaded my brain on 
one of the few short paved sections.

Having the Hunqa has opened up personal transportation for me (besides 
walking and running), and I love riding it just to ride, or to trail heads 
and running from there, as well as camping (since I can't carry weight 
above my waist, it opens up going bikepacking my with daughters -- a real 
delight!).

I have a few pictures up here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[cyclotourist]

A great bio Paul, thanks for taking the time to write it up!

Cheers,
David



On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:

> I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm,
> W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow,
> can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know
> production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a
> pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange
> with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now.
>
> I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab
> a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way
> at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance
> and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike
> with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All
> these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back
> on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building
> frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky
> thing...
>
> I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83,
> then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek
> Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and
> wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at
> SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing
> my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front
> shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of
> chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast
> and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material.
>
> Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew
> increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori
> was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds
> 853, when I realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in
> more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my
> non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back.
>
> So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've
> never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been
> rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously
> jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a
> weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were
> customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS
> in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque.
> Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern
> parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals
> these days, no more foot retention.
>
> Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a
> slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey
> (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple
> thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of
> steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel.
>
> Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500'
> of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find
> some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/
>
> Looking forward to some Rivish dialog
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Tim Gavin]

Nice.  I also recently picked up an early Riv Road; mine's a '97 in the
same size.  I feel ya on the lack of tire clearance compared to recent
Rivs.  I'm going to try 650B wheels to get more clearance for tires and
fenders; I'll report measurements when I get the wheels.


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:

> I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm,
> W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow,
> can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know
> production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a
> pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange
> with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now.
>
> I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab
> a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way
> at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance
> and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike
> with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All
> these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back
> on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building
> frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky
> thing...
>
> I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83,
> then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek
> Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and
> wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at
> SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing
> my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front
> shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of
> chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast
> and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material.
>
> Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew
> increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori
> was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds
> 853, when I realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in
> more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my
> non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back.
>
> So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've
> never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been
> rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously
> jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a
> weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were
> customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS
> in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque.
> Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern
> parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals
> these days, no more foot retention.
>
> Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a
> slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey
> (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple
> thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of
> steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel.
>
> Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500'
> of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find
> some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/
>
> Looking forward to some Rivish dialog
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[PATRICK MOORE]

Welcome, Paul; very interesting introduction. And that is a righteous
Rivendell. I had an early edition Waterford-built custom road back in 1995.

I rather miss the more pavement oriented Rivendells of 10 years ago. And I
bet my new-to-me Ram will run circles around your Fuji.

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:

> I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm,
> W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow,
> can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know
> production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a
> pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange
> with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now.
>
> I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab
> a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way
> at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance
> and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike
> with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All
> these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back
> on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building
> frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky
> thing...
>
> I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83,
> then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek
> Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and
> wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at
> SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing
> my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front
> shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of
> chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast
> and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material.
>
> Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew
> increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori
> was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds
> 853, when I realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in
> more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my
> non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back.
>
> So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've
> never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been
> rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously
> jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a
> weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were
> customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS
> in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque.
> Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern
> parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals
> these days, no more foot retention.
>
> Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a
> slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey
> (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple
> thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of
> steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel.
>
> Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500'
> of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find
> some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/
>
> Looking forward to some Rivish dialog
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
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RE: [RBW] Introduction

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Very interesting - thanks for sharing.  And beautiful bike, old-style narrow 
clearances notwithstanding.

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I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, W'ford 
production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, can't see any 
month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know production month. Pretty 
sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a pm to verify, but the 
missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange with a deep blue head tube, 
built as a fixie for now.

I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally nab a 
Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad way at 
all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber clearance and 
off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality road bike with 
clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost dainty. All these pix of 
Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel like I'm back on a twitchy crit 
bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and Grant's building frames now with double 
top tubes? Evolution is an interesting/spooky thing...

I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, then 
went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek Japan 
'90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and wool/cotton 
was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at SunTour, then 
carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing my very first 
Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front shift dumped the 
chain and sawed through several critical layers of chainstay carbon. I was 
honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast and I started thinking maybe 
carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material.

Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew increasingly 
disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori was my first 
lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 853, when I 
realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in more than a decade. 
Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my non-ferrous steeds and 
haven't looked back.

So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've never 
been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been rekindled (I'm 
also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously jones for 
small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a weird full-circle 
thing for me because some of these builders were customers of mine or 
show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS in Richmond 2010 and 
Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. Left behind a 
period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern parts where it 
makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals these days, no more 
foot retention.

Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a slow 
upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey (BTCNJ), 
which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple thousand, and 
getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of steel out there, 
though, especially higher-end steel.

Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride w/500' of 
climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll also find some 
other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and Cirque:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/

Looking forward to some Rivish dialog

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Paul Brodek]

Thanks, Tim---let us know how it goes. From what I'm reading here 
650x32-34mm will likely work OK, 38mm might be tight. This Riv Road Std is 
a dry pavement bike for me. Parigi-Roubaix plump out to almost 30mm, and I 
find 'em mighty cushy. But it's good to know I have to option to go 
smaller/fatter!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA
 

On Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:40:53 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Nice.  I also recently picked up an early Riv Road; mine's a '97 in the 
> same size.  I feel ya on the lack of tire clearance compared to recent 
> Rivs.  I'm going to try 650B wheels to get more clearance for tires and 
> fenders; I'll report measurements when I get the wheels.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Paul Brodek 
> > wrote:
>
>> I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, 
>> W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, 
>> can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know 
>> production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a 
>> pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange 
>> with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now. 
>>
>> I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally 
>> nab a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad 
>> way at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber 
>> clearance and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality 
>> road bike with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost 
>> dainty. All these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel 
>> like I'm back on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and 
>> Grant's building frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an 
>> interesting/spooky thing...
>>
>> I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, 
>> then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek 
>> Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and 
>> wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at 
>> SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing 
>> my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front 
>> shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of 
>> chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast 
>> and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material. 
>>
>> Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew 
>> increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori 
>> was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 
>> 853, when I realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in 
>> more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my 
>> non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back.
>>
>> So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've 
>> never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been 
>> rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously 
>> jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a 
>> weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were 
>> customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS 
>> in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. 
>> Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern 
>> parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals 
>> these days, no more foot retention. 
>>
>> Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a 
>> slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey 
>> (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple 
>> thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of 
>> steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel. 
>>
>> Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride 
>> w/500' of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll 
>> also find some other bikes, and some overly-large sets from NAHBS 2013 and 
>> Cirque:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633888172218/
>>
>> Looking forward to some Rivish dialog
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Paul Brodek]

Thanks, Patrick. The Roubaix Pro had nothing on any Rivendell, but the 
geometry was a bit more sport-tour than race, and it did just kind of 
disappear underneath me like no aluminum or carbon bike had.
Those early Rivendells hearken back to a few decades of pre-crit classic 
road bikes, which is my touchstone. Back in the day I didn't really know 
rando-ish bikes existed, my only exposure was a few catalog pages in some 
late-'70s Fuji Japan catalogs lying around the shop. There were some 
French-inspired (I suppose?) rando/touring models in the lineup, and to my 
eyes they could have been designed by Martians. There just seemed to be so 
much darned stuff on them, everywhere, and I couldn't comprehend any of it. 
My outlook has widened since then. When I look at a lot of the current 
Rivs, I do grok them, I think they look cool, they even trigger a little 
desire. But they don't quite resonate as deeply with me.
No matter, though, it's all good stuff, and it has been a pleasure watching 
what Grant has accomplished as an independent entity, relatively 
unleashed.  
Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA


On Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:50:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Welcome, Paul; very interesting introduction. And that is a righteous 
> Rivendell. I had an early edition Waterford-built custom road back in 1995. 
>
> I rather miss the more pavement oriented Rivendells of 10 years ago. And I 
> bet my new-to-me Ram will run circles around your Fuji.
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Paul Brodek 
> > wrote:
>
>> I am now the proud 3rd or 4th owner of an early '95 Riv Road Std 59.5cm, 
>> W'ford production, ser# 95060. BB paint is thick and stampings shallow, 
>> can't see any month letter stamp in front of the 95, so I don't know 
>> production month. Pretty sure is was originally frank_a's frame, sent him a 
>> pm to verify, but the missing paint scabs match his exactly. Burnt orange 
>> with a deep blue head tube, built as a fixie for now. 
>>
>> I've been on ibob since '96, guess it took me quite a while to finally 
>> nab a Riv and join here. I almost feel a little out of place, not in a bad 
>> way at all, but so many folks here have newer Rivs with mega-rubber 
>> clearance and off-road capability. What was revolutionary in '95, a quality 
>> road bike with clearance for 30mm tires, now seems quaint and almost 
>> dainty. All these pix of Hunqs and Homers with 40mm+ tires makes me feel 
>> like I'm back on a twitchy crit bike with 21mm Specialized Turbos---and 
>> Grant's building frames now with double top tubes? Evolution is an 
>> interesting/spooky thing...
>>
>> I'm a bike biz vet/refugee, wrenched at Fuji Cycle Center of NJ '80-'83, 
>> then went to SunTour USA '84-'88, Maeda Kogyo/SunTour Japan '89-'90, Trek 
>> Japan '90-'99, Fuji America '00-'01. I was bobbish when lugged steel and 
>> wool/cotton was just about all that existed, then flirted with aluminum at 
>> SunTour, then carbon at Trek. Started looking at steel again after trashing 
>> my very first Trek OCLV frame on its maiden voyage, first or second front 
>> shift dumped the chain and sawed through several critical layers of 
>> chainstay carbon. I was honestly Just Riding Along (JRA). Frame was toast 
>> and I started thinking maybe carbon wasn't a great bicycle frame material. 
>>
>> Started reading ibob, Grant/Riv and the Sheldon Chronicles, grew 
>> increasingly disenchanted with aluminum/carbon. My steel epiphany/satori 
>> was my first lunchtime ride on a '99/'00 Fuji Roubaix Pro, tig'd Reynolds 
>> 853, when I realized it was the "rightest" feeling bike I had ridden in 
>> more than a decade. Dove back into steel in a big way, got rid of all my 
>> non-ferrous steeds and haven't looked back.
>>
>> So now I find myself an old cuss, fatter and weaker than ever, but I've 
>> never been happier with my bikes. My love for lugged steel has been 
>> rekindled (I'm also OK with fillet-brazed and even tig'd) and I seriously 
>> jones for small-volume American handbuilt frames from the '70s-'80s---a 
>> weird full-circle thing for me because some of these builders were 
>> customers of mine or show-buddies from my SunTour days. I made it to NAHBS 
>> in Richmond 2010 and Denver this year, also finally just made it to Cirque. 
>> Left behind a period-correct components phase and now often run semi-modern 
>> parts where it makes sense to me; also ride only spiky platform pedals 
>> these days, no more foot retention. 
>>
>> Although my riding mileage is still pitifully low, it's generally on a 
>> slow upswing. I re-connected with the Bicycle Touring Club of North Jersey 
>> (BTCNJ), which had a couple hundred members in '82 and now has a couple 
>> thousand, and getting back out on club rides has been fun. Not a lot of 
>> steel out there, though, especially higher-end steel. 
>>
>> Took a few piccies of the Riv today, did a flattish 25mi fixed ride 
>> w/500' of climbing, my legs are toast. Here's a small flickr set, you'll 

Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Robert Harrison]

Welcome! You'll find a wealth of information and plenty of support around here, 
I know I have. 

That's a sweet looking bike and I love the M-bars. I had them on my Quickbeam 
for years till I switched looks. They'll be going on another bike soon.  

Aloha,

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[Lyle Bogart]

Welcome! I agree with Bob--that's a fine looking Hillborne!

Cheers!

lyle

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> Quickbeam for years till I switched looks. They'll be going on another bike
> soon.
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Dan McNamara]

Great looking ride! Welcome!

Dan

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[René Sterental]

Welcome aboard!

On Saturday I took a friend and his wife to RBW and after doing some test
rides, they placed orders for a Sam and a Betty. Now they have to be
patient until they arrive, so I gave then Grant's book as a present.

Enjoy your Sam!

René

On Sunday, March 3, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> Looks like same size buddy Hillbornes!
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:08:40 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Congrats! Glad you are enjoying the bike. What size frame?
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[PATRICK MOORE]

Welcome to the list. I see that you have the prettiest of saddlebags
-- in color, shape, and proportions -- the green Nelson.

I also spy with my little eye an iPhone on your stem: please describe
the attaching device? The Topeak "rain sack" I have is less than
satisfactory.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Kellie Stapleton]

Well actually the saddlebag is a Barley. It's not an iPhone, it's a Garmin 
800 which I've moved from the stem (in the pic) back to the handlebar. It 
was too slanted and couldn't read it in certain light.

On Monday, March 4, 2013 6:05:18 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Welcome to the list. I see that you have the prettiest of saddlebags 
> -- in color, shape, and proportions -- the green Nelson. 
>
> I also spy with my little eye an iPhone on your stem: please describe 
> the attaching device? The Topeak "rain sack" I have is less than 
> satisfactory. 
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Kellie Stapleton 
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> RBW 
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RE: [RBW] Introduction

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Takashi:  I've been admiring your pics of your bike on the Flickr group for 
some time - it's a beauty!  Welcome to the group.  Tom

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Hi all,
I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the first 
time to introduce myself.
I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much.

I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and 
informations.
I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of English, 
and I have to work hard to read/write in English.

Photos of my Hunqapillar:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

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Looks like you're using that bike in the intended manner!!!

Cheers,
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>  Takashi:  I’ve been admiring your pics of your bike on the Flickr group
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> I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

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Super looking bike...super places to ride...what more could you want? :-)

Welcome to the group.

Aloha,

Bob


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> Hi all,
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> I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Brian Hanson]

 Hmmm - 5+ different bar combos in one year?  Check!  Let's not stop there
- I also see multiple harlequin wraps, wood fenders, buncha tires, classic
Hunqa paint?  I applaud this guy!  We are souls separated by geography.
 Welcome!

Brian
Seattle, WA

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> If you check out the Suntour website you'll see some of Toshi's shots.
> Don't ask me how I know this I'm just super Flickr stalker.
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[René Sterental]

Welcome aboard!


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:22 AM, jphillip...@me.com wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've wearied of lurking and decided to introduce myself. I'm not an
> RBW owner as of yet, but I have a Hunqapillar on order along with a Betty
> Foy for my wife.
>
> I wanted to thank everyone for sharing here, it has made the long wait
> somewhat sufferable, though I feel myself regressing toward petulant
> adolescence with each new day.
>
> We will post photos when are bikes are finished and on the road, but until
> then I will have to get by on vicarious enjoyment of all your thrills.
>
> Thanks much,
>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[PATRICK MOORE]

Welcome. I look forward to seeing your photos.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM, jphillip...@me.com wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've wearied of lurking and decided to introduce myself. I'm not an
> RBW owner as of yet, but I have a Hunqapillar on order along with a Betty
> Foy for my wife.
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> somewhat sufferable, though I feel myself regressing toward petulant
> adolescence with each new day.
>
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> then I will have to get by on vicarious enjoyment of all your thrills.
>
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>
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[RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

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Hey Doug, good to see you back in action in the group. Did you ever install 
that new fork on your Saluki?

Tom Matchak 
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[RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

[Doug Shaker]

I'm just joining the group, so I thought it would be polite to introduce 
myself.

I've been riding Rivendells since about 2003, when I realized that I'd 
never bought a bike for myself and had just had them given to me.  I bought 
a Rambouillet and was instantly hooked.  I still ride that Rombouillet, but 
I also have a Saluki and some generic cross bike that has been made into a 
cargo bike with an Xtracycle attachment.

I used to be a regular contributor to the old RBW mailing list, but I faded 
out and got interested in other things.  I build bikes for short friends 
that can't find bikes that will work for them in the commercial sphere.  
And I work for a bike charilty (www.bikex.org) that donates fixed up bikes 
to social service agencies.

I live in Palo Alto and am newly retired.  I used to run a business that 
did contract technical writing.

There we have it.

-Doug Shaker

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[RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

[Joe Bernard]

I remember that name. Welcome back, Doug!

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[RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

[Philip Williamson]

Hey Doug!
I recognize you. Welcome back!

Philip
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[RBW] introduction and first question....

[sebseb]

Dear Forum,
I am a new member and would like to say hello and ask for a first advice at 
the same time. I just found your group as I was doing some research to 
replace my japanese touring frame which I lost in an accident some time 
ago. I found the mid 80's frame which I had very well adapted to my needs, 
a 28' wheeled "sports-tourer" with room for up to 32mm tires (with 
fenders), long enough chainstays to have fenders and carry luggage on racks 
 but still with side pull-brakes (47-57 reach) and double crankset, the 
fork even with eyelets for lowrider though I never used them. Besides doing 
all my commutes with it I also travelled a lot on it, always with just two 
panniers and a handlebar bag. I did a lot of brevets and several week-long 
tours (with camping gear) with that frame, and though not the lightest and 
maybe a little on the "flexy" side there was nothing really to complain 
about. Since the accident I try to find something similar and Rivendell has 
made some bikes in the past that seem to be what i am looking for, or at 
least come very close to what I search for. As I hope to find amongst you 
the real connaiseurs of this brand I would like to know which of the 
Rivendell frames (also former ones) comes closest to my demands in your 
opinion so that I can look for an occasion to try to find one in my size 
(PBH 84cm). While in the current lineup I am not so shure there is such a 
model, the older Rambouillet seemed to me "the role model" although I am 
not shure if there is enough heel clearance to have larger panniers and two 
eyelets would also be nicer at the rear  and front drop out? Has anybody 
experiences with that kind of luggage on a Rambouillet? I would be pleased 
to hear some first hand knowledge and if somebody has a frame in my size 
(~58cm for 28' wheels) he wants to part with  i would also like to know 
about it. With my best regards and a happy new year to everybody  -sebastian

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[RBW] introduction and first question....

[Leslie]

Look closely at the A Homer Hilsen, I think it might suit you

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[RBW] Introduction from Austin, TX

[shawn]

HI All,
I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally
introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in
Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.
Here are some pics of my bikes:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/

Thanks,
Shawn
Austin, TX

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[RBW] Introduction - Newbie QB owner

[WETH]

Welcome. That is a beautiful bike!

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[RBW] Introduction - Newbie QB owner

[Philip Williamson]

Welcome! Always nice to see another Quickbeam owner. I'm really impressed with 
your Bendix wheel, and the Wald mod. Beautiful bike - very sharp!

Philip
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[RBW] Introduction - Newbie QB owner

[Montclair BobbyB]

Yup... That's the one I was talking about... Thanks for sharing the pics John; 
that hub mod is just too cool and I love the basket mod!  Let's ride soon!

BobbyB 

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Re: [RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

[Douglas Shaker]

Nope, man, never did. I felt guilty about it after you went to all the trouble 
of making it. Still have it though. Beautiful fork with a sweet curve to it.  
The paint match is great. 

Background for the others: My Saluki is set up as a camping bike with front and 
back racks.  I'm a pretty terrible climber and I don't get better with a load. 
I had the gears though and could, on a steep hill, chug away at about two miles 
per hour.  However, with loads in the front panniers, the Saluki became tippy 
as could be at low speed.   Down right scary if you had traffic at your back.  
I got off and walked up a lot of hills.

I had a theory that if the front fork had more trail the bike would be less 
tippy under load at low speed.  Tom made a fork for me, really good paint 
match, with more trail.  The fork, unfortunately, is still in my garage in my 
shamefully large pile'o'bike stuff.
And now, tell the truth, I need to sell the Saluki to clear space in the 
garage.  Sigh. Thus are laid low the plans of humans in general and bike fiends 
in particular.

Doug Shaker

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> that new fork on your Saluki?
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Re: [RBW] Introduction - Doug Shaker

[James Warren]

Doug,

I remember your name. 2003-4-5 really don’t seem like 15-14-13 years ago. I’m 
glad you’re back!

-James Warren


> On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Doug Shaker  wrote:
> 
> I'm just joining the group, so I thought it would be polite to introduce 
> myself.
> 
> I've been riding Rivendells since about 2003, when I realized that I'd never 
> bought a bike for myself and had just had them given to me.  I bought a 
> Rambouillet and was instantly hooked.  I still ride that Rombouillet, but I 
> also have a Saluki and some generic cross bike that has been made into a 
> cargo bike with an Xtracycle attachment.
> 
> I used to be a regular contributor to the old RBW mailing list, but I faded 
> out and got interested in other things.  I build bikes for short friends that 
> can't find bikes that will work for them in the commercial sphere.  And I 
> work for a bike charilty (www.bikex.org) that donates fixed up bikes to 
> social service agencies.
> 
> I live in Palo Alto and am newly retired.  I used to run a business that did 
> contract technical writing.
> 
> There we have it.
> 
> -Doug Shaker
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[RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Brady Smith]

Love the bike, and good to see a fellow Iowan on this list. I live in NJ now 
and while we have some great cycling I do miss the miles and miles of quiet 
country roads. 

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[RBW] Introduction with ulterior motive

[JP]

Hello I’m JP.  I was at The Concord Willows REI 10 years ago and a person had a 
shirt that said “Rivendell lugged bikes” on it or something.   I did an 
internet search when I got home and was converted by the wisdom immediately.  
Took a lunch trip over to the shop and met Kevin, eventually created a “bike 
tree” of about 9 bikes with my own evangelizing.  With my Sam being #2 after 
getting my dad to buy a homer.  

Fast forward to today and I’ve since changed jobs houses and had more kids.  

Where I’ve moved has a relatively steep hill that had put me off riding for a 
while.  My Sam has a double crank with road bike oriented size rings that was 
great until I moved. 
But with the help of a car rack and covid 19 I’ve stared again. 

I’m bummed I missed the 2018 Rivendell stress as I would have helped a bit.  I 
was having some work stress then too and missed it. 

Anyway thinking of selling my Sam and Will@rbw said to look on here.  

Really excited to be riding again in any case!

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[RBW] Introduction with ulterior motive

[Dorothy C]

Why sell the Sam and not just put a new crank and cassette on it?

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[RBW] Introduction and a Rusty Question

[ChrisG]

Hi All,
I've been following the group for a month or two now and have really 
enjoyed learning about your escapes. I've been a bike commuter (on a 
hardtail Brodie mtb) for most of my 22 working years, but that has really 
tapered off in the past couple of years. Turns out the mtb really wasn't a 
very good fit (sizing) at all, but when I was younger that never really 
bothered me. I also just came to the realization that at nearly 50 years of 
age,  my chances of winning the TdF are diminishing quickly ;) so I also 
sold the harsh riding, low bar Al road bike I'd had for a decade.  

I recently went to a good shop, was fit for, and bought a new Surly LHT. 
It's completely rejuvenated my love for cycling. The bike is great, and the 
fit is very Riv'ish: frame is 2-3 cm taller than my previous road bike and 
I've got it set up very similar to the Riv recommendation for saddle and 
bar height. The LHT had been my commuter and touring bike over the summer 
and it's been great. But now I'm thinking that I'd like to add something a 
little more spritely when I want to ride without racks and hopefully fall 
less behind my two 100# kids who just fly up our very hilly terrain. And of 
course I'm thinking of a Riv. I can't afford anything new right now, but 
I've got a line on a used Rom that is in my price range. I haven't seen it 
in person yet (it's a 2-3 hour drive away), but I would go and try it 
before buying. I'm worried though that the frame has some rust. My Brodie 
has some some rust spots on the frame that I've covered with clear nail 
polish and they haven't seemed to cause a problem. The Riv Rom though has 
rust in some of the lugs and I don't know if this should be a major concern 
or not as I've never had experience with this. The seller was kind enough 
to send me a pic of the worst spot and I've attached below. Hopefully the 
photo is large enough for you to see (I have it much larger, but the groups 
editor compresses it). Anyone have experience with rust in/near the lugs 
like this? Would this make you steer clear or do you think it is likely not 
a problem?

Thanks in advance,
ChrisG
North Vancouver, BC



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[RBW] Introduction to Bike Touring course

[Rene Sterental]

I have signed up with the Adventure Cycling Association to do their
Introduction to Bike Touring course in May in Eugene, OR.
http://www.adventurecycling.org/tours/tourdetail.cfm?t=EDU11&id=249&p=1

I am going to do it on my Atlantis, so it's Riv related, and thought that
there might perhaps be some other people in this group who would be
interested in joining. Not that you can't just do it on your own, but I
figured it would be worth for me to get some formal education/training and
support to go on this adventure. I also got my wife in a "weak" moment to
agree that this was going to be my 51st birthday present. Birthday was in
January, and I'm really looking forward to this experience.

Any advise or suggestions from the touring experts in this group regarding
stuff to take/leave, packing suggestions, etc., will be much appreciated.
For now, my plan is to use the Nitto Big Rear Rack and my Tubus Nova low
rider that allows me to keep the Nitto Mini front rack on the Atlantis. I
also have a Nitto Big Front rack, but am not sure it would be superior to
the Mini/Nova combo. A set of rear GT-54 and front GT-42 would complete the
setup, in addition to the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag on the Nitto Mini.

The area where I'm mostly clueless about, but will learn during this course,
is how much clothes, bike shorts, underwear, etc. to bring. I know it's very
easy to overpack.

I've started training for this event where I'll be biking about 50 miles per
day for four consecutive days. At this time my longest rides have been 20
milers since my body ailments result in pain that doesn't allow me to ride
for longer. Still, I'm pushing slowly and trying to get those problems fixed
with fit tweaks and chiropractic work. I'm basically trying to design daily
commutes via Caltrain and bike to accomodate this training plan, but there
are always business trips and other issues that disrupt it. If anyone has
any good suggestions for a structured training plan to reach my goal of
being able to do the four day 50 mile rides, I'd be interested. As it
currently stands, my average speed with my commuting load is around 10 mph.
With the fully loaded bike, I don't even want to know yet. All I do is
figure that I'll have to be on the saddle for about 6 hours every day for
four days... and my body starts hurting! Yet, I remain very optimistic and
my new diet plan has been working so I've been losing some weight. I believe
that my best chances to improve are tied to how much weight I can lose
before the tour starts, as that will allow me to ride faster (less saddle
hours) and also fit better on the bike.

René

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Re: [RBW] Introduction from Austin, TX

[cyclotourist]

Yeah for RB-T's!  Those are just great bikes.  Looks like you have them set
up perfectly!

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM, shawn  wrote:

> HI All,
> I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally
> introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in
> Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
> philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.
> Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
> Austin, TX
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Re: [RBW] Introduction from Austin, TX

[Ray Shine]

Welcome!  Great looking biks.  What panniers are those?

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, cyclotourist  wrote:

From: cyclotourist 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Introduction from Austin, TX
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:35 PM

Yeah for RB-T's!  Those are just great bikes.  Looks like you have them set up 
perfectly!

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM, shawn  wrote:

HI All,

I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally

introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in

Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be

welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen

philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.

Here are some pics of my bikes:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/



http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/



Thanks,

Shawn

Austin, TX



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Re: [RBW] Introduction and Tire Question

[Fullylugged]

The Velocity A 23 is also tubeless compatible and comes in 26"

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:09:05 PM UTC-5 jmanw...@gmail.com wrote:

> Velocity cliffhanger is the only rim brake 26 tubeless ready that I know 
> of! 
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> One more remark: I hate heavy thorn proof tires -- they're not really 
>> "proof," only resistant, and pre-modern-sealant, I simply fixed a lot of 
>> flats; I used up most of 200 Rema patches every year; it was just the price 
>> to ride decent tires.
>>
>> But I did find one tire that rolled acceptably and was *almost* proof 
>> against goatheads even without any sealant: the Schwalbe Big Apple. They 
>> used to make this in a 26" size, but whether they still do, or whether it's 
>> still the same nice-rolling tire it was then, I don't know; this was 10 
>> years ago or more. I'd say that on dirt, the Big Apple is almost proof 
>> against thorns -- I'd come off the dirt with literally scores embedded in 
>> each tire; brush them off, ride on, no leak a day later. On pavement, only 
>> a few got through in miles of riding compared to the other, lighter tires I 
>> used.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 2:32 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I've dealt with goathead flats for decades, and modern sealants are the 
>>> best solution by far. I've used sealant in tubes (Orange Seal, regular 
>>> formula works in tubes while the "Endurance" formula does not), and as long 
>>> as the pressure is at least 40 psi it should fix the problem. It certainly 
>>> works well at 50 or 60 psi. 
>>>
>>> But for pressures lower than about 40 psi I find sealant does not work 
>>> well in tubes; I guess there's not enough pressue to get the sealant into 
>>> the hole in the tube. But sealants work fine in tubeless tires even at 15 
>>> or 12 psi, IME.
>>>
>>> Tubeless tire setups require a tire with special beads for tight fit, 
>>> plus a good buildup of of Stan's No Tubes rim tape on the rim bed. This can 
>>> be done even with rims *not* designed for tubeless tires, as long as 
>>> the rim bed is built up sufficiently with the tape so that the tire beads 
>>> can fit firmly against the insides of the rim; too little tape and it is 
>>> only air pressure holding the beads in place, which can lead to problems 
>>> great and small. 
>>>
>>> Since beads seem to stretch, and since you'll have to top up the sealant 
>>> every 3 months or so, you'll have to be ready to add another layer of tape 
>>> to regain the tight fit; then get the tight beads back in place against the 
>>> rim walls. I just bought a cheap air compressor to do so
>>>
>>> Easier all around if you switch to tubeless compatible rims as well as 
>>> tubeless tires; but finding tubeless rims for rim brakes in the 26" size 
>>> may be hard. Perhaps others can speak up.
>>>
>>> Upshot: try 2 fl oz of Orange Seal regular formula in your tubes. If 
>>> that doesn't work, get your rims set up for tubeless tires, and buy some 
>>> tubeless-ready tires and be prepared to adjust the setup after 3 months or 
>>> so with another layer of rim tape. I  use the Rene Herse Naches Pass, 26" X 
>>> 1.8". Very light and very nice rolling, but expensive.
>>>
>>> Finally, while sealant properly used will prevent thorn flats, it may 
>>> well not seal bigger holes, so you'll need backup: spare tube or tubes if 
>>> you are using tubes; I put sealant in my spare tubes when I use them; or, 
>>> if your tires are tubeless, a plug kit, or else a tube to install for 
>>> emergencies only. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:20 PM Christine Justice  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 I'm Christine from Denver, CO. I'm a mom to three cats, one dog, and 
 one Rivendell. The Riv is a Clem H I bought new in 2019. All the parts are 
 stock except the handlebars. I swapped out the Bosco's for Velo Orange 
 Milan bars. The Bosco bars made the bike feel too small for me (I'm 5'5" 
 and it's the 45 size), and the Milan bars give me a semi-upright position 
 that makes it feel just right. This is my "do everything bike". Shopping, 
 touring, gravel riding, commuting, it's the bike I prefer for most things. 
 I have covered up the "JR", in "Clem Smith JR" with a Clementine sticker. 
 This bike is most certainly not a Junior, she is a classy lady!

 Early last year, I moved to Colorado. I had no idea what a goat head 
 was before moving here. Now unfortunately, I am well acquainted. I swapped 
 out the tires on all my bikes to Schwalbe Marathons to battle the buggers. 
 I'm still getting some flats though.  Is going tubeless worth the mess and 
 expense? I can't use these Marathons, they are the standard wire bead 
 version. And has anybody tried using the stock Clem wheels set up 
 tubelessly? I would already need new tires, and a better pump. So I think 
 new wheels are out of my budget.
 Frustrated with flats,
 Christine[image: IMG_1926.jp

Re: [RBW] Introduction and Tire Question

[Patrick Moore]

I figured that any tubeless 26" rim would be for fat tires. 30 mm is way
overkill for 42 mm, let alone 28 mm, which is what I use on my road bikes.
Still, for a Clementine, it's probably the very best choice if you want to
give up tubes.


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 2:09 PM Jay  wrote:

> Velocity cliffhanger is the only rim brake 26 tubeless ready that I know
> of!
>

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Re: [RBW] Introduction and Tire Question

[adh]

Velo Orange's Voyager rims are tubeless compatible and come in 32/36 hole 
26 
inch! 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204353585
On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:09:05 PM UTC-5 jmanw...@gmail.com wrote:

> Velocity cliffhanger is the only rim brake 26 tubeless ready that I know 
> of! 
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> One more remark: I hate heavy thorn proof tires -- they're not really 
>> "proof," only resistant, and pre-modern-sealant, I simply fixed a lot of 
>> flats; I used up most of 200 Rema patches every year; it was just the price 
>> to ride decent tires.
>>
>> But I did find one tire that rolled acceptably and was *almost* proof 
>> against goatheads even without any sealant: the Schwalbe Big Apple. They 
>> used to make this in a 26" size, but whether they still do, or whether it's 
>> still the same nice-rolling tire it was then, I don't know; this was 10 
>> years ago or more. I'd say that on dirt, the Big Apple is almost proof 
>> against thorns -- I'd come off the dirt with literally scores embedded in 
>> each tire; brush them off, ride on, no leak a day later. On pavement, only 
>> a few got through in miles of riding compared to the other, lighter tires I 
>> used.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 2:32 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I've dealt with goathead flats for decades, and modern sealants are the 
>>> best solution by far. I've used sealant in tubes (Orange Seal, regular 
>>> formula works in tubes while the "Endurance" formula does not), and as long 
>>> as the pressure is at least 40 psi it should fix the problem. It certainly 
>>> works well at 50 or 60 psi. 
>>>
>>> But for pressures lower than about 40 psi I find sealant does not work 
>>> well in tubes; I guess there's not enough pressue to get the sealant into 
>>> the hole in the tube. But sealants work fine in tubeless tires even at 15 
>>> or 12 psi, IME.
>>>
>>> Tubeless tire setups require a tire with special beads for tight fit, 
>>> plus a good buildup of of Stan's No Tubes rim tape on the rim bed. This can 
>>> be done even with rims *not* designed for tubeless tires, as long as 
>>> the rim bed is built up sufficiently with the tape so that the tire beads 
>>> can fit firmly against the insides of the rim; too little tape and it is 
>>> only air pressure holding the beads in place, which can lead to problems 
>>> great and small. 
>>>
>>> Since beads seem to stretch, and since you'll have to top up the sealant 
>>> every 3 months or so, you'll have to be ready to add another layer of tape 
>>> to regain the tight fit; then get the tight beads back in place against the 
>>> rim walls. I just bought a cheap air compressor to do so
>>>
>>> Easier all around if you switch to tubeless compatible rims as well as 
>>> tubeless tires; but finding tubeless rims for rim brakes in the 26" size 
>>> may be hard. Perhaps others can speak up.
>>>
>>> Upshot: try 2 fl oz of Orange Seal regular formula in your tubes. If 
>>> that doesn't work, get your rims set up for tubeless tires, and buy some 
>>> tubeless-ready tires and be prepared to adjust the setup after 3 months or 
>>> so with another layer of rim tape. I  use the Rene Herse Naches Pass, 26" X 
>>> 1.8". Very light and very nice rolling, but expensive.
>>>
>>> Finally, while sealant properly used will prevent thorn flats, it may 
>>> well not seal bigger holes, so you'll need backup: spare tube or tubes if 
>>> you are using tubes; I put sealant in my spare tubes when I use them; or, 
>>> if your tires are tubeless, a plug kit, or else a tube to install for 
>>> emergencies only. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:20 PM Christine Justice  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 I'm Christine from Denver, CO. I'm a mom to three cats, one dog, and 
 one Rivendell. The Riv is a Clem H I bought new in 2019. All the parts are 
 stock except the handlebars. I swapped out the Bosco's for Velo Orange 
 Milan bars. The Bosco bars made the bike feel too small for me (I'm 5'5" 
 and it's the 45 size), and the Milan bars give me a semi-upright position 
 that makes it feel just right. This is my "do everything bike". Shopping, 
 touring, gravel riding, commuting, it's the bike I prefer for most things. 
 I have covered up the "JR", in "Clem Smith JR" with a Clementine sticker. 
 This bike is most certainly not a Junior, she is a classy lady!

 Early last year, I moved to Colorado. I had no idea what a goat head 
 was before moving here. Now unfortunately, I am well acquainted. I swapped 
 out the tires on all my bikes to Schwalbe Marathons to battle the buggers. 
 I'm still getting some flats though.  Is going tubeless worth the mess and 
 expense? I can't use these Marathons, they are the standard wire bead 
 version. And has anybody tried using the stock Clem wheels set up 
 tubelessly? I would already need new tires, and a better pump. So 

Re: [RBW] Introduction and Tire Question

[Kevin]

Alex Adventurer 2 comes in a tubeless, rim brake 26. A bit narrower and 
certainly not as nice as a Cliffhanger but wallet friendly and pretty 
durable in my experience with the 700c version.

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:09:05 PM UTC-5 jmanw...@gmail.com wrote:

> Velocity cliffhanger is the only rim brake 26 tubeless ready that I know 
> of! 
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> One more remark: I hate heavy thorn proof tires -- they're not really 
>> "proof," only resistant, and pre-modern-sealant, I simply fixed a lot of 
>> flats; I used up most of 200 Rema patches every year; it was just the price 
>> to ride decent tires.
>>
>> But I did find one tire that rolled acceptably and was *almost* proof 
>> against goatheads even without any sealant: the Schwalbe Big Apple. They 
>> used to make this in a 26" size, but whether they still do, or whether it's 
>> still the same nice-rolling tire it was then, I don't know; this was 10 
>> years ago or more. I'd say that on dirt, the Big Apple is almost proof 
>> against thorns -- I'd come off the dirt with literally scores embedded in 
>> each tire; brush them off, ride on, no leak a day later. On pavement, only 
>> a few got through in miles of riding compared to the other, lighter tires I 
>> used.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 2:32 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I've dealt with goathead flats for decades, and modern sealants are the 
>>> best solution by far. I've used sealant in tubes (Orange Seal, regular 
>>> formula works in tubes while the "Endurance" formula does not), and as long 
>>> as the pressure is at least 40 psi it should fix the problem. It certainly 
>>> works well at 50 or 60 psi. 
>>>
>>> But for pressures lower than about 40 psi I find sealant does not work 
>>> well in tubes; I guess there's not enough pressue to get the sealant into 
>>> the hole in the tube. But sealants work fine in tubeless tires even at 15 
>>> or 12 psi, IME.
>>>
>>> Tubeless tire setups require a tire with special beads for tight fit, 
>>> plus a good buildup of of Stan's No Tubes rim tape on the rim bed. This can 
>>> be done even with rims *not* designed for tubeless tires, as long as 
>>> the rim bed is built up sufficiently with the tape so that the tire beads 
>>> can fit firmly against the insides of the rim; too little tape and it is 
>>> only air pressure holding the beads in place, which can lead to problems 
>>> great and small. 
>>>
>>> Since beads seem to stretch, and since you'll have to top up the sealant 
>>> every 3 months or so, you'll have to be ready to add another layer of tape 
>>> to regain the tight fit; then get the tight beads back in place against the 
>>> rim walls. I just bought a cheap air compressor to do so
>>>
>>> Easier all around if you switch to tubeless compatible rims as well as 
>>> tubeless tires; but finding tubeless rims for rim brakes in the 26" size 
>>> may be hard. Perhaps others can speak up.
>>>
>>> Upshot: try 2 fl oz of Orange Seal regular formula in your tubes. If 
>>> that doesn't work, get your rims set up for tubeless tires, and buy some 
>>> tubeless-ready tires and be prepared to adjust the setup after 3 months or 
>>> so with another layer of rim tape. I  use the Rene Herse Naches Pass, 26" X 
>>> 1.8". Very light and very nice rolling, but expensive.
>>>
>>> Finally, while sealant properly used will prevent thorn flats, it may 
>>> well not seal bigger holes, so you'll need backup: spare tube or tubes if 
>>> you are using tubes; I put sealant in my spare tubes when I use them; or, 
>>> if your tires are tubeless, a plug kit, or else a tube to install for 
>>> emergencies only. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:20 PM Christine Justice  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 I'm Christine from Denver, CO. I'm a mom to three cats, one dog, and 
 one Rivendell. The Riv is a Clem H I bought new in 2019. All the parts are 
 stock except the handlebars. I swapped out the Bosco's for Velo Orange 
 Milan bars. The Bosco bars made the bike feel too small for me (I'm 5'5" 
 and it's the 45 size), and the Milan bars give me a semi-upright position 
 that makes it feel just right. This is my "do everything bike". Shopping, 
 touring, gravel riding, commuting, it's the bike I prefer for most things. 
 I have covered up the "JR", in "Clem Smith JR" with a Clementine sticker. 
 This bike is most certainly not a Junior, she is a classy lady!

 Early last year, I moved to Colorado. I had no idea what a goat head 
 was before moving here. Now unfortunately, I am well acquainted. I swapped 
 out the tires on all my bikes to Schwalbe Marathons to battle the buggers. 
 I'm still getting some flats though.  Is going tubeless worth the mess and 
 expense? I can't use these Marathons, they are the standard wire bead 
 version. And has anybody tried using the stock Clem wheels set up 
 tubelessly? I would already need new tires, a

Re: [RBW] Introduction and Tire Question

[Patrick Moore]

Good to know about the Alex; will archive this. Rather wider and heavier
than I like, and I think I'll prefer to futz with tubeless-i-fying a
non-tubeless rim; so far, so good!

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 3:13 PM Kevin  wrote:

> Alex Adventurer 2 comes in a tubeless, rim brake 26. A bit narrower and
> certainly not as nice as a Cliffhanger but wallet friendly and pretty
> durable in my experience with the 700c version.
>
> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:09:05 PM UTC-5 jmanw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Velocity cliffhanger is the only rim brake 26 tubeless ready that I know
>> of!
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> One more remark: I hate heavy thorn proof tires -- they're not really
>>> "proof," only resistant, and pre-modern-sealant, I simply fixed a lot of
>>> flats; I used up most of 200 Rema patches every year; it was just the price
>>> to ride decent tires.
>>>
>>> But I did find one tire that rolled acceptably and was *almost* proof
>>> against goatheads even without any sealant: the Schwalbe Big Apple. They
>>> used to make this in a 26" size, but whether they still do, or whether it's
>>> still the same nice-rolling tire it was then, I don't know; this was 10
>>> years ago or more. I'd say that on dirt, the Big Apple is almost proof
>>> against thorns -- I'd come off the dirt with literally scores embedded in
>>> each tire; brush them off, ride on, no leak a day later. On pavement, only
>>> a few got through in miles of riding compared to the other, lighter tires I
>>> used.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 2:32 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 I've dealt with goathead flats for decades, and modern sealants are the
 best solution by far. I've used sealant in tubes (Orange Seal, regular
 formula works in tubes while the "Endurance" formula does not), and as long
 as the pressure is at least 40 psi it should fix the problem. It certainly
 works well at 50 or 60 psi.

 But for pressures lower than about 40 psi I find sealant does not work
 well in tubes; I guess there's not enough pressue to get the sealant into
 the hole in the tube. But sealants work fine in tubeless tires even at 15
 or 12 psi, IME.

 Tubeless tire setups require a tire with special beads for tight fit,
 plus a good buildup of of Stan's No Tubes rim tape on the rim bed. This can
 be done even with rims *not* designed for tubeless tires, as long as
 the rim bed is built up sufficiently with the tape so that the tire beads
 can fit firmly against the insides of the rim; too little tape and it is
 only air pressure holding the beads in place, which can lead to problems
 great and small.

 Since beads seem to stretch, and since you'll have to top up the
 sealant every 3 months or so, you'll have to be ready to add another layer
 of tape to regain the tight fit; then get the tight beads back in place
 against the rim walls. I just bought a cheap air compressor to do so

 Easier all around if you switch to tubeless compatible rims as well as
 tubeless tires; but finding tubeless rims for rim brakes in the 26" size
 may be hard. Perhaps others can speak up.

 Upshot: try 2 fl oz of Orange Seal regular formula in your tubes. If
 that doesn't work, get your rims set up for tubeless tires, and buy some
 tubeless-ready tires and be prepared to adjust the setup after 3 months or
 so with another layer of rim tape. I  use the Rene Herse Naches Pass, 26" X
 1.8". Very light and very nice rolling, but expensive.

 Finally, while sealant properly used will prevent thorn flats, it may
 well not seal bigger holes, so you'll need backup: spare tube or tubes if
 you are using tubes; I put sealant in my spare tubes when I use them; or,
 if your tires are tubeless, a plug kit, or else a tube to install for
 emergencies only.




 On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:20 PM Christine Justice 
 wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm Christine from Denver, CO. I'm a mom to three cats, one dog, and
> one Rivendell. The Riv is a Clem H I bought new in 2019. All the parts are
> stock except the handlebars. I swapped out the Bosco's for Velo Orange
> Milan bars. The Bosco bars made the bike feel too small for me (I'm 5'5"
> and it's the 45 size), and the Milan bars give me a semi-upright position
> that makes it feel just right. This is my "do everything bike". Shopping,
> touring, gravel riding, commuting, it's the bike I prefer for most things.
> I have covered up the "JR", in "Clem Smith JR" with a Clementine sticker.
> This bike is most certainly not a Junior, she is a classy lady!
>
> Early last year, I moved to Colorado. I had no idea what a goat head
> was before moving here. Now unfortunately, I am well acquainted. I swapped
> out the tires on all my bikes to Schwalbe Marathons to battle the buggers.
> I'm still ge

Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Lyman Labry]

Really beautiful bike and set up!  Curious, have you weighed the bike?
Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:46 AM Jim Plaugher 
wrote:

> Hi folks! I'd like to properly introduce myself and tell the story of my
> first Rivendell, a 58 Roadini.
>  I have been a long time listener to this group, but for many years,
> bicycling has meant commutng year round in the midwest, on my modified Fuji
> MTB, a bike I used think had a long wheelbase! As a Rivendell member in the
> days when the "Reader" was on paper, I enjoyed  Grant's writings
> celebrating the practicalness of bikes, usefulness of saddlebags and his
> encouragement to prioritize comfort. I enjoy reading all of Grant's
> writings and I enjoy reading the posts to this group. You are all so
> expressive with words! I hope it rubs off on me, as I would like to be
> better at writing.
> For the last year I have been living in North East Iowa on top of a bluff
> with 2.5 miles of a steep gravel road before I hit the scenic paved highway
> along the Mississippi River. So the Roadini in the picture is nice and
> clean as it is not my first choice when I head out the door. 26X2.00 feels
> safer to me than 700X35C on the gravel. But the Leo is really nice to ride,
> once on the highway!
> I am sentimental about some bike components and often remember the history
> of parts I have traded. This bike has a Phil Wood front hub my family gave
> me for Christmas.The rear is a 40H first generation Phil freewheel hub with
> radial lacing on the none-drive side. It came from trading parts from a
> Peugeot PX1O. I gave up the sewup wheels in favor of parts,I considered to
> be more practical. The  noodle bars and the Shimano 600 cranks also came
> from the Peugeot. So now I have a bike with a frame from Rivendell, not
> just various parts. I enjoy experiencing the Rivendell design through
> riding, and not just reading! I hope to contrbute to conversations in the
> future.
> Jim in Lansing Iowa
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Patrick Moore]

Another pretty orange bike. Welcome, and kudos on the nice build.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Jim Plaugher 
wrote:

> Hi folks! I'd like to properly introduce myself and tell the story of my
> first Rivendell, a 58 Roadini.
>  I have been a long time listener to this group, but for many years,
> bicycling has meant commutng year round in the midwest, on my modified Fuji
> MTB, a bike I used think had a long wheelbase! As a Rivendell member in the
> days when the "Reader" was on paper, I enjoyed  Grant's writings
> celebrating the practicalness of bikes, usefulness of saddlebags and his
> encouragement to prioritize comfort. I enjoy reading all of Grant's
> writings and I enjoy reading the posts to this group. You are all so
> expressive with words! I hope it rubs off on me, as I would like to be
> better at writing.
> For the last year I have been living in North East Iowa on top of a bluff
> with 2.5 miles of a steep gravel road before I hit the scenic paved highway
> along the Mississippi River. So the Roadini in the picture is nice and
> clean as it is not my first choice when I head out the door. 26X2.00 feels
> safer to me than 700X35C on the gravel. But the Leo is really nice to ride,
> once on the highway!
> I am sentimental about some bike components and often remember the history
> of parts I have traded. This bike has a Phil Wood front hub my family gave
> me for Christmas.The rear is a 40H first generation Phil freewheel hub with
> radial lacing on the none-drive side. It came from trading parts from a
> Peugeot PX1O. I gave up the sewup wheels in favor of parts,I considered to
> be more practical. The  noodle bars and the Shimano 600 cranks also came
> from the Peugeot. So now I have a bike with a frame from Rivendell, not
> just various parts. I enjoy experiencing the Rivendell design through
> riding, and not just reading! I hope to contrbute to conversations in the
> future.
> Jim in Lansing Iowa
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Jim Plaugher]

I haven't weighed it. It has a light "let's just go a ride" feel, but is also 
very stable. I don't weigh it down with a large saddlebag like my Mt Fuji. So I 
have to bring a back pack for shopping. Back packs don't count as part of the 
bike weight, right?

Jim in Lansing Iowa

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[RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Max S]

Congratulations! What a great looking bike / setup! 

- Max “weights and rollers for a few months” in A2

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[RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Welcome aboard! I’m so happy you found your perfect bike and that it’s been all 
you wanted. I well remember that feeling, and it’s great to have this list so 
you can surround yourself with folks who understand. The color of your Atlantis 
is lovely. I’ll admit I’m envious that you get to live in God’s Country (MN), 
as I would give half my kingdom to land there. I visit my sister in the summer, 
so maybe we’ll bump into you on the famous, plentiful bike highways your city 
is so known for. Ride the heck out of that bike! It’s the Minnesota way!

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[RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Lum Gim Fong]

Congrats on the new bike!! Beautiful!


@Leah:
Have you been there in winter?

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[RBW] Introduction from RBW fans in NZ

[Chris in NZ]

Hello everybody 

I’ve been a member of this forum for a while but haven’t had much to contribute 
so far aside from the odd comment on a couple of threads. However, I thought I 
would introduce myself in anticipation of a post in the coming weeks once I 
assemble a couple of dream bikes (Hunqapillars for myself and my partner!)

 My partner and I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, and we are avid 
commuter/utility riders as well as occasional cycle tourists. We currently ride 
LHTs, have recently bought for short trips and we have a beautiful sage 
Hubbuhubbuh.

I had my adult rediscovery of bikes a few years ago when I quit what I was 
doing, bought the LHT and spent four months touring NZ. During that tour I met 
a guy riding a bike unlike any I had seen at that point, and until I saw that 
it had modern Shimano components, I believed must have been a relic.. What 
really made an impression on me was that he seemed to glide along the road 
rather than ride and couldn’t believe riding a bike could be so joyous (as much 
as I enjoyed riding my LHT). I wrote down the word “Atlantis”, and when I 
finally had a chance to google it, I fell headlong into the Rivendell universe! 
I found out recently from an old blug that this was Caddie Mike  - if you’re on 
here Mike, thanks!

I met my partner shortly after I finished that tour and indoctrinated her into 
cycling for fun and utility, eventually built her a LHT also, and we both ended 
up with Albatross bars and a longing for a Rivendell bike...
We thought the HHH might sate us but ultimately we both needed singles too! We 
pushed the button on two Hunqs in January and just received them. Once I’ve got 
them assembled I’ll report back...

Chris

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[RBW] Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Avery Wilson]

Hello Group!

My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past 
year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.

I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web 
specials from last year). 

See a pic here .

I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I 
love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, 
etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of 
88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the 
picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)

If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an 
AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange 
Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. 
The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day 
rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've 
got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double 
top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!  

It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use 
the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have 
any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great, 
but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike 
again, thus I consider the 63...

General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!


Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson

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Re: [RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Patrick Moore]

Welcome aboard and kudos on the Atlantis and the build. I raised ("am
raising: 2.0 even when divorced; 17 1/2 now) in a Rivendell environment and
recall the trouble and the joy. Less trouble now, just costs more. Still
joy.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:22 PM Erik Roalson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I’ve been a lurker for a while, and really enjoy everything I’ve read,
> learned, and seen on here.
> For a number of years I’ve been a huge fan of everything Rivendell, but
> didn’t get the chance to actually ride one until last fall when I was out
> west for my uncle’s wedding. The wedding was in Lake Tahoe, and I decided
> to take a few extra days of vacation and enjoy the Bay Area. Obviously
> being so close to Rivendell, I made it a point to stop by just to check it
> all out in person. I was immediately greeted by Grant and he sized me up to
> test out some bikes. Roman and Will pulled out a number of different bikes
> for me to test out and I fell in love with the Hunq and Atlantis! I was
> blown away at how friendly everyone was, even though I wasn’t able to buy a
> bike at that time.
>
> During the last year I have gone through a divorce, focused on further
> simplifying aspects of life, sold off a number of bikes and bike related
> items, and riding more than I was able to in the past; even though I have
> an incredibly busy schedule between raising two boys and working odd and
> long hours. The point of selling off my collection of bikes and parts was
> to hopefully come across a used Atlantis or Hunq, but these do not come up
> terribly often... A few months ago, Rivendell was selling a MUSA Atlantis
> frameset that had some paint chips and bottle cage holes that were slightly
> off center for a nicely discounted price. I immediately bought the bike and
> couldn’t be happier!
>
> Anyways, enough rambling... I’d like to thank everyone on this forum and
> at Rivendell for being solid people and sharing their knowledge and love of
> fun and practical cycling.
>
> Erik in St Paul, Minnesota
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[RichS]

Erik,

Welcome to the Rivendell family! Good looking and nicely turned out 
Atlantis you've begun your journey with. You're in for some joyous riding!

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 9:59:15 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Welcome aboard and kudos on the Atlantis and the build. I raised ("am 
> raising: 2.0 even when divorced; 17 1/2 now) in a Rivendell environment and 
> recall the trouble and the joy. Less trouble now, just costs more. Still 
> joy.
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 11:22 PM Erik Roalson  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’ve been a lurker for a while, and really enjoy everything I’ve read, 
>> learned, and seen on here.
>> For a number of years I’ve been a huge fan of everything Rivendell, but 
>> didn’t get the chance to actually ride one until last fall when I was out 
>> west for my uncle’s wedding. The wedding was in Lake Tahoe, and I decided 
>> to take a few extra days of vacation and enjoy the Bay Area. Obviously 
>> being so close to Rivendell, I made it a point to stop by just to check it 
>> all out in person. I was immediately greeted by Grant and he sized me up to 
>> test out some bikes. Roman and Will pulled out a number of different bikes 
>> for me to test out and I fell in love with the Hunq and Atlantis! I was 
>> blown away at how friendly everyone was, even though I wasn’t able to buy a 
>> bike at that time.
>>
>> During the last year I have gone through a divorce, focused on further 
>> simplifying aspects of life, sold off a number of bikes and bike related 
>> items, and riding more than I was able to in the past; even though I have 
>> an incredibly busy schedule between raising two boys and working odd and 
>> long hours. The point of selling off my collection of bikes and parts was 
>> to hopefully come across a used Atlantis or Hunq, but these do not come up 
>> terribly often... A few months ago, Rivendell was selling a MUSA Atlantis 
>> frameset that had some paint chips and bottle cage holes that were slightly 
>> off center for a nicely discounted price. I immediately bought the bike and 
>> couldn’t be happier!
>>
>> Anyways, enough rambling... I’d like to thank everyone on this forum and 
>> at Rivendell for being solid people and sharing their knowledge and love of 
>> fun and practical cycling.
>>
>> Erik in St Paul, Minnesota
>>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Erik, what a great build and way to snag a fantastic deal! I love the big 
frame/low saddle ... a combo I find rides really well. No matter what life 
tosses our way, getting out on a great bike that “vanishes” as we ride brings 
peace and clarity. Enjoy riding with abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Leah Peterson]

Lum: 
Winter! Still God’s Country!

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> Congrats on the new bike!! Beautiful!
> 
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> @Leah:
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and my new MUSA Atlantis

[Jonathan D.]

Congratulations. I found my 58 in St Paul and shipped it to PDX this summer. . 
Looks like the universe has been balanced back out. 

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Re: [RBW] Introduction from RBW fans in NZ

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Chris,
Congratulations on your new Hunqapillar!
I am sure you will enjoy your new bike.
Yes, please do report back with pictures :-)

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:42 AM, Chris in NZ  wrote:

> Hello everybody
>
> I’ve been a member of this forum for a while but haven’t had much to
> contribute so far aside from the odd comment on a couple of threads.
> However, I thought I would introduce myself in anticipation of a post in
> the coming weeks once I assemble a couple of dream bikes (Hunqapillars for
> myself and my partner!)
>
>  My partner and I live in Dunedin, New Zealand, and we are avid
> commuter/utility riders as well as occasional cycle tourists. We currently
> ride LHTs, have recently bought for short trips and we have a beautiful
> sage Hubbuhubbuh.
>
> I had my adult rediscovery of bikes a few years ago when I quit what I was
> doing, bought the LHT and spent four months touring NZ. During that tour I
> met a guy riding a bike unlike any I had seen at that point, and until I
> saw that it had modern Shimano components, I believed must have been a
> relic.. What really made an impression on me was that he seemed to glide
> along the road rather than ride and couldn’t believe riding a bike could be
> so joyous (as much as I enjoyed riding my LHT). I wrote down the word
> “Atlantis”, and when I finally had a chance to google it, I fell headlong
> into the Rivendell universe! I found out recently from an old blug that
> this was Caddie Mike  - if you’re on here Mike, thanks!
>
> I met my partner shortly after I finished that tour and indoctrinated her
> into cycling for fun and utility, eventually built her a LHT also, and we
> both ended up with Albatross bars and a longing for a Rivendell bike...
> We thought the HHH might sate us but ultimately we both needed singles
> too! We pushed the button on two Hunqs in January and just received them.
> Once I’ve got them assembled I’ll report back...
>
> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[cyclotourist]

Hi Avery, the bike looks great! Sams have a sloping top tube, so you're
going to have more post showing than on a Homer. As pictured, it looks fine.

FYI, I have an 89 PBH and ride 60 to 61cm Riv frames happily. For me having
the the top tube length dialed in at 590mm (+/-5mm) is what I look for. A
60cm Sam would be really long for me.

Cheers,
David

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Avery Wilson  wrote:

> Hello Group!
>
> My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past
> year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.
>
> I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web
> specials from last year).
>
> See a pic here .
>
> I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I
> love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics,
> etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of
> 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the
> picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)
>
> If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an
> AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange
> Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all.
> The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day
> rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've
> got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double
> top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!
>
> It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use
> the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have
> any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great,
> but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike
> again, thus I consider the 63...
>
> General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!
>
>
> Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson
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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[James Warren]

Solid intro! Good to meet you!

-Jim W.


On Jul 8, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Evan wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
> 
> I've been lurking here for years, but now that I've bought a new Sam from 
> Riv—with friendly guidance from Keven and Will and Rich—I figure it's time to 
> introduce myself. 
> 
> Here's a picture of Sam and me in gale force winds on San Francisco Bay. 
> Above my rear wheel you can glimpse the summit of Mount Diablo. Whenever I 
> see that mountain, I think of Rivendell. Yes, I am a fan.
> 
> Evan E.
> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[Ray Shine]

Welcome, Evan. That Sam's a beauty!  Nice set up.

Ray
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>
> From: Evan 
>To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 8:12 PM
>Subject: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne
> 
>
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>I've been lurking here for years, but now that I've bought a new Sam from 
>Riv—with friendly guidance from Keven and Will and Rich—I figure it's time to 
>introduce myself. 
>
>Here's a picture of Sam and me in gale force winds on San Francisco Bay. Above 
>my rear wheel you can glimpse the summit of Mount Diablo. Whenever I see that 
>mountain, I think of Rivendell. Yes, I am a fan.
>
>Evan E.
>SF, CA
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> 
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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[Patrick Moore]

Evan: Nice bike! Welcome, or at least, welcome to the sunlight.

What other bikes do you have?

Patrick Moore, left with:

'99 road fixed custom
'03 road custom, later custom fixed
'? Rambouillet

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Evan  wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>
> I've been lurking here for years, but now that I've bought a new Sam from
> Riv—with friendly guidance from Keven and Will and Rich—I figure it's time
> to introduce myself.
>
> Here's a picture of Sam and me in gale force winds on San Francisco Bay.
> Above my rear wheel you can glimpse the summit of Mount Diablo. Whenever I
> see that mountain, I think of Rivendell. Yes, I am a fan.
>
> Evan E.
> SF, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[Evan]

Thanks, everyone, for your warm welcome. To answer your questions:
>
>  
My Sam is a 56.

I have a 1986 Univega Gran Rally (gofast) and a 1983 Univega SupraSport 
(commuter). Now that I have Sam, I could do without these two bikes but 
I'll probably keep them. They've got a bit of Riv spirit about them--and 
the Gran Rally is pearlescent pink, my daughter's favorite color.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[justinaugust]

You have albatrosses on there?

-J

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 1:40:00 PM UTC-4, Evan wrote:
>
> Thanks, everyone, for your warm welcome. To answer your questions:
>>
>>  
> My Sam is a 56.
>
> I have a 1986 Univega Gran Rally (gofast) and a 1983 Univega SupraSport 
> (commuter). Now that I have Sam, I could do without these two bikes but 
> I'll probably keep them. They've got a bit of Riv spirit about them--and 
> the Gran Rally is pearlescent pink, my daughter's favorite color.
>

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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[Evan]

I have VO Tourist bars. They, along with the vintage Suntour MKII FD and 
Suntour thumb shifters, are the only non-Riv items on the bike. (The 
Tourist bars sweep back roughly 60 degrees whereas the Albas sweep back 
about 75 degrees, with 90 degrees being parallel to the top tube. 60 
degrees feels good to me, but I do miss the sweet satin finish on the 
Albas.) 


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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[James Chang]

That's a fine looking Hillborne.  The new blue is stunning.


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Evan  wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>
> I've been lurking here for years, but now that I've bought a new Sam from
> Riv—with friendly guidance from Keven and Will and Rich—I figure it's time
> to introduce myself.
>
> Here's a picture of Sam and me in gale force winds on San Francisco Bay.
> Above my rear wheel you can glimpse the summit of Mount Diablo. Whenever I
> see that mountain, I think of Rivendell. Yes, I am a fan.
>
> Evan E.
> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Introduction: My name is Evan and I ride a Hillborne

[Kellie Stapleton]

Welcome Evan. I got my Sam in Feb. and then joined the forum too. I've since 
switched to GrandBois Cypress tires and added a Mark's rack on the back to 
support my Nelson Longflap.

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