Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
Paul wrote: While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. ...At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Paul C Paul, I too like her blog and find it creative and refreshing. Thank you for posting it. I am sending it on to a few of my cycling women friends. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. Not true! We don't interest 99.999% of the population. :-) LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
Well there ya' go. It's like being in high school! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. Not true! We don't interest 99.999% of the population. :-) LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
Maybe, but 99.999% is probably a lot closer to the truth than 45%. Bill In a message dated 2/27/2010 10:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cyclotour...@gmail.com writes: Well there ya' go. It's like being in high school! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Horace _max...@sdf.lonestar.org_ (mailto:max...@sdf.lonestar.org) wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist _cyclotour...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cyclotour...@gmail.com) wrote: That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. Not true! We don't interest 99.999% of the population. :-) LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. It is written by a lady that just got back into cycling last spring at age 30 I think she mentioned after not cycling since her childhood teenage years. She has a refreshing take on cycling I think and a very fast learning curve having just returned to it a bit under a year ago. She describes some of the things within certain areas of bike culture that had kept her from getting back into it. Seeing one particularly lovely orange vintage Gazelle Dutch bike helped change that. Now she has a custom mixte on the way a new Sam Hill bourne frame to build up among several other vintage bike acquisitions over the last 10 or so months. At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Regards, Paul C Dallas, TX area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. If you want to see testosterone, go to the Finn sailing site: direct insults with four letter words and specific physical threats all form part of the discussion. Some of it is funny, some of it not at all funny. It was hard for a lurker, unfamiliar with the personalities, to decide who was kidding and who was serious. I left the site because of this total lack of civility (not directed at me). Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Paul neve...@att.net wrote: From: Paul neve...@att.net Subject: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 3:30 PM While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. It is written by a lady that just got back into cycling last spring at age 30 I think she mentioned after not cycling since her childhood teenage years. She has a refreshing take on cycling I think and a very fast learning curve having just returned to it a bit under a year ago. She describes some of the things within certain areas of bike culture that had kept her from getting back into it. Seeing one particularly lovely orange vintage Gazelle Dutch bike helped change that. Now she has a custom mixte on the way a new Sam Hill bourne frame to build up among several other vintage bike acquisitions over the last 10 or so months. At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Regards, Paul C Dallas, TX area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
James, I also find this list very polite one. No implying of otherwise was meant. My apologies for perhaps a poor choice of words. I was just trying to convey how a feminine perspective contrasted with a mostly male perspective adds some refreshing balance. Paul C Dallas, TX (Who always attempts to be polite on lists but perhaps occasionally fails) - Original Message - From: James Dinneen To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. If you want to see testosterone, go to the Finn sailing site: direct insults with four letter words and specific physical threats all form part of the discussion. Some of it is funny, some of it not at all funny. It was hard for a lurker, unfamiliar with the personalities, to decide who was kidding and who was serious. I left the site because of this total lack of civility (not directed at me). Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies.Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Paul neve...@att.net wrote: From: Paul neve...@att.net Subject: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 3:30 PM While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. It is written by a lady that just got back into cycling last spring at age 30 I think she mentioned after not cycling since her childhood teenage years. She has a refreshing take on cycling I think and a very fast learning curve having just returned to it a bit under a year ago. She describes some of the things within certain areas of bike culture that had kept her from getting back into it. Seeing one particularly lovely orange vintage Gazelle Dutch bike helped change that. Now she has a custom mixte on the way a new Sam Hill bourne frame to build up among several other vintage bike acquisitions over the last 10 or so months. At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Regards, Paul C Dallas, TX area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
on 2/26/10 11:33 AM, James Dinneen at jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. (snipped) Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies. I passed the original post through moderation because my read was that he was commenting about the testosterone-fuelishness of Cycling in general. It didn't strike me that his comment was directed at us. I only read the first few posts on the blog (to make sure it was cycling-specific), so I can't comment if there were posts about this (or other) lists. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 14:16 -0800, CycloFiend wrote: on 2/26/10 11:33 AM, James Dinneen at jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. (snipped) Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies. I passed the original post through moderation because my read was that he was commenting about the testosterone-fuelishness of Cycling in general. It didn't strike me that his comment was directed at us. I only read the first few posts on the blog (to make sure it was cycling-specific), so I can't comment if there were posts about this (or other) lists. I read a few entries. Nothing on lists I could see. A couple of nice pieces on Raleigh DL-1s, though -- did you know Schwalbe makes a cream colored roadster tire? 650A as well, for those green English 3 speeds. And a nice piece on ads showing nudity in Austria and how it ties in with Austrian culture. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
This list, and just about any bike list is probably 95% male, at least based on the conversations that are from people I know as male or female (some people don't use their given names). So yeah, that's definitely testosterone or at least XY chromosome dominated. That's too bad in my opinion. That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. I've noticed it as well on our SoCal rides as well. One feminine-lady-person for 1/5 of one ride means it's quite a sausage-fest. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.comwrote: I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. If you want to see testosterone, go to the Finn sailing site: direct insults with four letter words and specific physical threats all form part of the discussion. Some of it is funny, some of it not at all funny. It was hard for a lurker, unfamiliar with the personalities, to decide who was kidding and who was serious. I left the site because of this total lack of civility (not directed at me). Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies. Jim D. Massachusetts --- On *Thu, 2/25/10, Paul neve...@att.net* wrote: From: Paul neve...@att.net Subject: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 3:30 PM While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. It is written by a lady that just got back into cycling last spring at age 30 I think she mentioned after not cycling since her childhood teenage years. She has a refreshing take on cycling I think and a very fast learning curve having just returned to it a bit under a year ago. She describes some of the things within certain areas of bike culture that had kept her from getting back into it. Seeing one particularly lovely orange vintage Gazelle Dutch bike helped change that. Now she has a custom mixte on the way a new Sam Hill bourne frame to build up among several other vintage bike acquisitions over the last 10 or so months. At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Regards, Paul C Dallas, TX area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
I've noticed that organzied rides around here (NM CO) tend to be mostly male, but then I generally encounter more ladies than gents out on their own or in small groups when I'm just out riding around. Today was an exception, however, not a single lady out there for some reason. Ryan On Feb 26, 2010, at 20:42, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This list, and just about any bike list is probably 95% male, at least based on the conversations that are from people I know as male or female (some people don't use their given names). So yeah, that's definitely testosterone or at least XY chromosome dominated. That's too bad in my opinion. That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/ retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. I've noticed it as well on our SoCal rides as well. One feminine-lady-person for 1/5 of one ride means it's quite a sausage-fest. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: I would take issue with the view that much testosterone is shown on this list. We seem to be extremely polite and concerned with the feelings of others in the discussion. If you want to see testosterone, go to the Finn sailing site: direct insults with four letter words and specific physical threats all form part of the discussion. Some of it is funny, some of it not at all funny. It was hard for a lurker, unfamiliar with the personalities, to decide who was kidding and who was serious. I left the site because of this total lack of civility (not directed at me). Here on this list, if we even think bad thoughts we get a kind and gentle nudge from our webmaster. So in sum, different views are great but I think it is not fair to imply that testosterone is rampant on this list of gentlemen and ladies.Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Paul neve...@att.net wrote: From: Paul neve...@att.net Subject: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 3:30 PM While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. It is written by a lady that just got back into cycling last spring at age 30 I think she mentioned after not cycling since her childhood teenage years. She has a refreshing take on cycling I think and a very fast learning curve having just returned to it a bit under a year ago. She describes some of the things within certain areas of bike culture that had kept her from getting back into it. Seeing one particularly lovely orange vintage Gazelle Dutch bike helped change that. Now she has a custom mixte on the way a new Sam Hill bourne frame to build up among several other vintage bike acquisitions over the last 10 or so months. At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Regards, Paul C Dallas, TX area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit