Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

Thanks!  I think the real deep philosophical question is: can I call it a 
tourer before it's been taken touring?  How long of a tour counts as 
touring?  From a pure 'naming' or 'categorization' perspective, there is 
such a thing as a touring bike.  That generally accepted "touring bike" is 
a touring bike even before it goes on a tour, even if it never goes on a 
tour.  So, for a bike that is not universally categorized as a touring 
bike; does it become a touring bike because it is taken touring?  

BL in EC
 
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:39:28 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[JohnS]

Not a touring bike, nor a one day build, but a super cool fixed gear over 
on the Radavist. Riv content, the cut down Choco bars really contribute to 
the vintage look...

https://theradavist.com/readers-rides-todds-morlock-the-time-machine/

Enjoy!
John

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 1:39:28 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>>> 170 
>>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>>> floated 
>>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>>> before 
>>> good sealants. All this was achieved 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Ryan]

Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
general

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>
> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>
> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
> "dozenspeed".  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
>> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
>> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
>> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
>> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>
>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>
>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>  
>>
>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>> student making me ask this.
>>
>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
>>> touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
>>> setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>>> see...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>>
>>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Will
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
 front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
 mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
 kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
> always 
> gonna look great!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
>> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
>> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>
>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>> rigid 
>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>> 170 
>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>> floated 
>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>> before 
>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO 
>> hub, 
>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>
>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
>> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[amillhench]

“Dodecaspeed” has a nice ring to it. 

Aaron in El Paso 

On Jul 20, 2022, at 11:30, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds currently 
and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs so you 
can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any bike 
that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm talking 
about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the top level 
'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will soon be a 
singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a "dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love the 
> tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I have a 
> question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs 
> so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is hilly so a 
> true single-speed is probably not really practical
> 
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
> it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 
> 
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
> 
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
> 
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of "One 
>> Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing significantly 
>> more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- I did a VO 
>> Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New Singlespeed MTB Rear 
>> Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big Back Rack, naturally.  
>> Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can see...
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>> 
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me weeks 
>> to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>  
>> 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!
 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
> 
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 
> years before good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of 
> the ENO hub, as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I 
> had the other bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to 
> recall a total.
> 
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>> 
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
"dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>  
>
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
>
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
>> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>> see...
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>   
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated 
> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
> before 
> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Ryan]

Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical

The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 

SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
student making me ask this.

Ryan/Winnipeg MB

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:

> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
> see...
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>
> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Will
>   
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
>>> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
>>> look great!
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
 One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
 fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
 single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.

 As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
 the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
 top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
 fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
 converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
 Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
 mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
 floated 
 over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
 good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
 as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
 bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.

 I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
 using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.

 On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
> of 
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders 
> suggested 
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a 
> heavily 
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
> the other.  I did some 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Will M]

Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
"One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
see...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

Cheers,
Will
  

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
>> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
>> look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
>>> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
>>> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
>>> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
>>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
>>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
>>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
>>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>>
>>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
>>> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
 frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
 commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
 of 
 the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  

 A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
 Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
 that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
 can for the minimum amount of money.  

 In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
 entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
 iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a 
 heavily 
 modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
 Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026

 It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
 chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
 the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
 long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
 which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
 on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
 ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  

 There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
 that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes 
 its 
 way onto a Roaduno.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Andrew Turner]

I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
> look great!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
>> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
>> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>
>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
>> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>
>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
>> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>>
>>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>>
>>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>>
>>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>>
>>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Minh]

hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
look great!

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated 
> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>
>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>
>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>
>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Patrick Moore]

That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One
Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad
era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my
single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.

As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for the
dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid top-end
Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg fork; no
one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I converted
with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big Apples.
Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 mm cranks
around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, floated over
sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before good
sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, as my
brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other bits
lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.

I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project
using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you
> can for the minimum amount of money.
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on
> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously
> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings,
> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel
> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears
> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.
>
> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but
> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its
> way onto a Roaduno.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Wally Estrella]

Nice, Bill! 
the build looks great! I hope you enjoy the Ent as mush as I have mine! 


On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:01:40 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Very classy build! I love it.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[brendonoid]

Very classy build! I love it.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

Steven Sweedler said: "still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such 
limited gearing in my neck of the woods"

The build concept was a single speed tourer.  Whether or not you can 
imagine using it in a particularly steep hilly area is not part of the 
challenge.  Tour on it someplace where the gearing is sufficient :)  

My target is an overnight visit to UC Santa Cruz this September, where my 
daughter is a student.  By sleeping on her floor, I don't have to carry a 
tent.  By starting and finishing near civilization I don't have to carry 
much food, or a stove.  More like an S24O, I guess. 

The rear rack is the Nitto 27R, which has detachable lowriders, which are 
large and rectangular.  The Carradice panniers pictured on there are made 
for that large rectangular lowrider attachment.  You aren't supposed to 
hang a pannier on the "short lower rail" you see when the lowrider is not 
attached.  Detach the lowriders when you don't want to run panniers.  Bolt 
the lowriders on when you do want to run panniers.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 4:35:32 PM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Very nice Bill, still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such 
> limited gearing in my neck of the woods but if it works for you, enjoy. 
> What model is the rear rack, and any special attachments for the panniers 
> on such a short lower rail. Steve
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested 
>> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
>> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>>
>> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
>> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
>> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
>> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
>> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>>
>> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
>> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
>> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
>> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
>> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
>> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
>> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  
>>
>> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
>> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
>> way onto a Roaduno.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Steven Sweedler]

Very nice Bill, still can’t imagine touring  with any load with such
limited gearing in my neck of the woods but if it works for you, enjoy.
What model is the rear rack, and any special attachments for the panniers
on such a short lower rail. Steve

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 3:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you
> can for the minimum amount of money.
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on
> the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously
> long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings,
> which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel
> on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears
> ranging from 43 to 69 inches.
>
> There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but
> that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its
> way onto a Roaduno.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some of 
the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  

A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a Vanilla 
branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders suggested that we 
should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you can for 
the minimum amount of money.  

In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a heavily 
modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026

It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
the other.  I did some calculations targeted at utilizing the generously 
long Quickbeam dropouts, and decided I can get away with 40/34 chainrings, 
which I also had on-hand on the chainring board.  I have a 16/18 freewheel 
on the way, and then I'll convert it to an 8-speed singlespeed, with gears 
ranging from 43 to 69 inches.  

There's another order in the works to make this 'Beam even weirder, but 
that project is a few weeks out.  We'll see if this build concept makes its 
way onto a Roaduno.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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