[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Trainer thoughts. I use mine year round. For me, the ability to perform specific intervals at prescribed HR or power works great when building and maintaining fitness. I moved to a full on smart trainer last year (Kickr Snap) from a good but basic fluid trainer (Kinetic RR). Using the Snap and one of the many apps (Zwift, Trainer Road, Rouvy, Sufferfest) with ERG and Sim modes where it adjusts and holds resistance levels helps with eliminate the monotony of steady state riding. My tips get a good fan, good tunes, and terry wrist bands and headband to keep the sweat off the bike. See you on Zwift Jayme On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 1:29:16 PM UTC-6, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Sorry, meant axle levers like Steve mentioned on his daughters trainer On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-5, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > > If my wife decides she'd like to take the same bike out on the road it's > only a matter of undoing the rear axle (using the helpful levers like Ted > referenced) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
+1 for going second-hand, especially if you aren't yet sure what features you'll prefer. We opted for something new and in the middle of the pack but made sure it had all the features we wanted and nothing we didn't want. We wanted it to be quiet, stable, no frills and easy to set-up/take down. The CycleOps we went with checks all those boxes and didn't have all the electronic gadgetry we knew we wouldn't use, but had we been able to find a used higher end but similar model for the same cost or less we may have been willing to go for it. If my wife decides she'd like to take the same bike out on the road it's only a matter of undoing the rear axle (using the helpful levers like Ted referenced) and putting a rear QR wheel back on... as long as the cassettes match so your shifter/derailer adjustment remains the same. Just this fall a friend offered us their no longer used trainer... I was tempted to take them up on the offer and compare the models to see which we'd actually prefer but the reality is that we simply don't have the space and I'd personally prefer to get out and ride in the cold anyway so it would just continue collecting dust. Brian Cole Lawrenceville NJ On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:18:11 AM UTC-5, islaysteve wrote: > A few trainer thoughts, I''m not sure if any were already mentioned > above. Do yourself a big favor and don't buy a new trainer. I've bought 3 > on Craigslist for $35 to $40, they work perfectly well. The last 2 were > CycleOps magnetic, I gave one to my daughter. Look for metal construction > in the resistance unit, the less plastic the better. Ease of mounting and > removing the bike may be a consideration. My daughter's has a lever on the > axle mount which makes it easier to quickly remove the bike. Mine has > knobs that have to be screwed in and out. Yes, trainers are boring. I > listen to audiobooks on mine. Once you've tried your CL trainer for a > while, you may want another one with other features, or not. Or you may > just let it sit in the basement. Best of luck and Happy New Year! > > On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: >> >> I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a >> Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if >> anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to >> really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike >> commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift >> compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the >> basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t >> enjoy biking in the rain. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
A few trainer thoughts, I''m not sure if any were already mentioned above. Do yourself a big favor and don't buy a new trainer. I've bought 3 on Craigslist for $35 to $40, they work perfectly well. The last 2 were CycleOps magnetic, I gave one to my daughter. Look for metal construction in the resistance unit, the less plastic the better. Ease of mounting and removing the bike may be a consideration. My daughter's has a lever on the axle mount which makes it easier to quickly remove the bike. Mine has knobs that have to be screwed in and out. Yes, trainers are boring. I listen to audiobooks on mine. Once you've tried your CL trainer for a while, you may want another one with other features, or not. Or you may just let it sit in the basement. Best of luck and Happy New Year! On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
A couple of additional thoughts:
Yes, trainers are boring. Music or Netflix works for me.
Interval training can make for a short & productive workout.
Trainer specific tires make a difference-- besides saving wear on your road
tires, they are quieter and slip less.
Eric
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 9:05:29 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:
>
> Every trainer, bike, rider and manner of use creates its own situation. I
> used one to rehab a leg before I could walk or ride for real.
>
> I found the stench from the rear tire friction on the resistance roller
> contributed to shortening my sessions. I was nothing near a board track
> pursuit rider making my frame seem liquid in response to the waves of input
> from my physical awesomeness, but I did pour sweat which I addressed with
> rags and towels to keep off the hardware and floor.
>
> I took it outside in cooler weather to mitigate the sweat and reduce the
> irritation of others at home since that thing with its fan resistance was
> loud.
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to attach the demise of that bike frame ('86
> RockHopper) with my use in that trainer, but it tore a chain stay with a
> crack emanating from the margin of the bridge weld that progressed its way
> in a spiral around the stay. No phase of my riding on that bike before
> failure was anything near what would have been challenging to its
> construction.
>
> Late (after I could walk and ride again) I got some Tacx 4" rollers for my
> indoor sessions. I found the response of the bike to my pedaling input more
> realistic and mentally engaging. After a while I upgraded to an early
> NiteRider headlight and red blinkie tail light. Much happier for my
> situation.
>
> Hope all the input helps you reach the best outcome for your situation
> Jonathan.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:34:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> My first (of 3) and only well-used trainer was a magnetic resistance
>> trainer with this design, with 7 or 9 degrees of resistance. I recall
>> asking a bike shop mechanic about the flex, and he looked at me with
>> contempt and said, "What do you think the bike is doing when you ride it?"
>> I was too abashed to come back with a crushing retort, but I did realize
>> that he'd missed the point -- the rear wheel did indeed wag. However, bike
>> shop rats didn't think it a problem, and I did not find it a problem in
>> practice with my steel Miyata 610 or some such, even spending considerable
>> periods in 12th gear on Resistance #9, standing and honking hard.
>>
>> BTW, this roller, and the 2 fan rollers I've owned, didn't seem to be
>> hard on tires; as I said, I put many miles only on the mag one.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM, George Schick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trainers - some of these have mounts that lock the front fork onto the
>>> stand, sans wheel, and support the rest of the bike frame with a clamp-on
>>> device at the BB shell. The rear wheel then rubs against a magnetically
>>> resistive flywheel affair that can be varied in intensity. Has anyone ever
>>> researched what kind of stresses this setup places on the frame assembly?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Every trainer, bike, rider and manner of use creates its own situation. I
used one to rehab a leg before I could walk or ride for real.
I found the stench from the rear tire friction on the resistance roller
contributed to shortening my sessions. I was nothing near a board track
pursuit rider making my frame seem liquid in response to the waves of input
from my physical awesomeness, but I did pour sweat which I addressed with
rags and towels to keep off the hardware and floor.
I took it outside in cooler weather to mitigate the sweat and reduce the
irritation of others at home since that thing with its fan resistance was
loud.
I wouldn't go so far as to attach the demise of that bike frame ('86
RockHopper) with my use in that trainer, but it tore a chain stay with a
crack emanating from the margin of the bridge weld that progressed its way
in a spiral around the stay. No phase of my riding on that bike before
failure was anything near what would have been challenging to its
construction.
Late (after I could walk and ride again) I got some Tacx 4" rollers for my
indoor sessions. I found the response of the bike to my pedaling input more
realistic and mentally engaging. After a while I upgraded to an early
NiteRider headlight and red blinkie tail light. Much happier for my
situation.
Hope all the input helps you reach the best outcome for your situation
Jonathan.
Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 5:34:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> My first (of 3) and only well-used trainer was a magnetic resistance
> trainer with this design, with 7 or 9 degrees of resistance. I recall
> asking a bike shop mechanic about the flex, and he looked at me with
> contempt and said, "What do you think the bike is doing when you ride it?"
> I was too abashed to come back with a crushing retort, but I did realize
> that he'd missed the point -- the rear wheel did indeed wag. However, bike
> shop rats didn't think it a problem, and I did not find it a problem in
> practice with my steel Miyata 610 or some such, even spending considerable
> periods in 12th gear on Resistance #9, standing and honking hard.
>
> BTW, this roller, and the 2 fan rollers I've owned, didn't seem to be hard
> on tires; as I said, I put many miles only on the mag one.
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM, George Schick > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Trainers - some of these have mounts that lock the front fork onto the
>> stand, sans wheel, and support the rest of the bike frame with a clamp-on
>> device at the BB shell. The rear wheel then rubs against a magnetically
>> resistive flywheel affair that can be varied in intensity. Has anyone ever
>> researched what kind of stresses this setup places on the frame assembly?
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I just didn't like the pool of sweat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Get one if you want one. Don’t get one if you don’t. Riding on the trainer is not awesome but it gets a little less not awesome the more you do it. Is it like riding outside? No. Is it exercise? Yes. Will it help keep you healthy and in shape? Yes. I’ve had a medium quality trainer for about 10 years. I’ve used it enough to justify the cost but never with great regularity. I think of it like arm warmers, rain gear, or cold weather gear. I don’t use it for every ride but if it means I can ride 5-10% more then it is worth it. My advice would be to not overthink it. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I agree Patric. With Will we did 10 miles a day in Europe when he was eight months in a ring sling. We also went on a backpacking trip with him. The first time We successfully only went 2 miles in. The second one the threat of snow turned us back. We haven’t been as ambitious with two kids. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
6 month olds tuck really well under a jacket in a sling, so your outer wear is their outer wear, and your body heat is theirs. 2 1/2 is trickier, but bundled up and just as part of the normal expectation of “doing things and it happens to be wet and cold” timed with breaks to warm up, ours do great outside for quite a while, with the limit until they’re over five of 20˚F. Experiment and you’ll be amazed what real activities work and are a blast! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Chris - I think I must of hit the perfect time for the question with the middle of winter and post holiday eating. I realize another thread might be strategies for staying in shape and getting outside with two little kids. I my case they are 2 1/2 and 6 months. It is a wonderful challenge to have. It has made me rethink how I use all my time. For working out, I have had to rethink how I approach this time. I actually really appreciate what I learned, or was turned on to, by Eat Bacon, Don't Jog. I added kettlebells and deadlift bars in my basement. In fact I am writing this between deadlift sets. I try to squeeze this in once a week with heavy weight. I also began bike commuting. This allows me to get time outside during time I would have waisted sitting in a car. This has also allowed us to go to one car. I also find myself getting up at 5:15 to get a cup of coffee in, stretching (opposed by Grant but I can't agree with everything) and meditation. It has really helped. In the summer, Will and i ride the city on the Joe. It happens less in winter, but it is a great way to keep up riding even with a kid. The appeal of the trainer is to be able to bike while still listening to the baby monitor. Leaving the house isn't really an option. My wife finds it useful during the day and we using a cheap old fluid trainer from Performance Bike. I might test ride a newer version and see how it works in comparison. Thank you for all the advice. Here are some photos of Will and I out on the bike and excited to get his sister out. https://www.instagram.com/p/BcfKpYUjHhr/?taken-by=jonathandpdx On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 3:07:25 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Glad to see you are getting some responses I started a thread on > trainers a bit ago and got zero comments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Glad to see you are getting some responses I started a thread on trainers a bit ago and got zero comments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
My first (of 3) and only well-used trainer was a magnetic resistance trainer with this design, with 7 or 9 degrees of resistance. I recall asking a bike shop mechanic about the flex, and he looked at me with contempt and said, "What do you think the bike is doing when you ride it?" I was too abashed to come back with a crushing retort, but I did realize that he'd missed the point -- the rear wheel did indeed wag. However, bike shop rats didn't think it a problem, and I did not find it a problem in practice with my steel Miyata 610 or some such, even spending considerable periods in 12th gear on Resistance #9, standing and honking hard. BTW, this roller, and the 2 fan rollers I've owned, didn't seem to be hard on tires; as I said, I put many miles only on the mag one. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM, George Schick wrote: > > > Trainers - some of these have mounts that lock the front fork onto the > stand, sans wheel, and support the rest of the bike frame with a clamp-on > device at the BB shell. The rear wheel then rubs against a magnetically > resistive flywheel affair that can be varied in intensity. Has anyone ever > researched what kind of stresses this setup places on the frame assembly? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
One or two additional thoughts about rollers and trainers: Trainers - some of these have mounts that lock the front fork onto the stand, sans wheel, and support the rest of the bike frame with a clamp-on device at the BB shell. The rear wheel then rubs against a magnetically resistive flywheel affair that can be varied in intensity. Has anyone ever researched what kind of stresses this setup places on the frame assembly? Rollers - a couple of misnomers about these jobs: 1) The diameter of the roller has everything to do with the level of difficulty of riding on one of these - the larger the diameter (4 inches) the easier it is to ride in a higher gear and spin faster, therefore easier to keep one's balance by virtue of momentum; the smaller the diameter (> 3 inches) the more difficult the effort, even in smaller gears. 2) If one has a roller of the proper diameter for the needs, but the bike is skating back and forth all over the place, making balancing almost impossible, the front-to-center/rear rollers distance is probably not matched well to the bike's wheelbase. Contrary to what the instructions that come with a set of rollers might tell you, the proper place for the front wheel is directly on top of the front roller, not slightly behind it. If it's slightly behind it, yes, you will skate all over the place; if it's directly on top of it you will enjoy a smooth ride. You won't go flying off unless you do something radically wild like trying to suddenly pop into a sprint. On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 1:29:16 PM UTC-6, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
PDX probably has many used trainers via craigslist; else, a Kurt Kinetic (e.g. via REI) is great. Kinetic sells a little magnet and sensor that goes on the fluid trainer, is calibrated, and provides fairly accurate wattage info via a companion app that’s free to use for basic workouts. Slightly more expensive models clamp the frame sans rear wheel, which has many advantages. Lots of online “multiplayer” options to help with motivation, etc. I’m in a similar situation - kids, real winter, demanding job, etc. I’ve tried out everything from riding fixed outdoors / traditional rollers / trainers to a full-on CompuTrainer (and at an earlier point even VO2max assessment). Takeaway for me was: whatever it takes to develop a habit, which takes about 6 weeks of consistent doing to stick. Some exercise is better than none! Another thought: free weights and/or rower to put on a bit of upper body mass. I crashed recently and broke my collarbone... common enough injury in cycling and other sports. But I do wonder if a bit more upper body muscle mass couldn’t have limited the damage... As I recover enough to restart exercising, I’ll probably do a bit more upper body / whole body workouts. - Max in A2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Salt on the roads keeps me indoors. Don't wanna mess up the bike. Though they held up riding on dry salted roads in years past. I will ride on dry salted roads. Chain and fasteners were victimized but componemts and frame were fine. I dont ride on wet roads in winter. I'd be scared even on studded tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Thank you everyone. Sounds like everyone’s experience kind of confirms mine. It’s hard to make riding indoors fun and the newer trainers might help a little but still probably preferable to force myself outside when possible. Luckily we had a sunny day in PDX and I got to go for a ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I tried Kreitler rollers. Couldn't balance. Bored after 5 "miles". Bring cycling indoors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I know that parents with young kids have very little spare time and I am happy to get a 30 minute to 1 hour spin after my kids go to sleep a couple times a week. I've used a cycleops mag trainer as well as wind trainer (noisier but more resistance). I bought the cheapest rear wheel I could from QBP so I can slap a cheapo tire (under $10 fire sales from Nashbar) on it with harder tread on it for my trainer. A fan is good to keep cool as pointed out earlier. Toshi On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:30 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Whenever I have Bike Trainer Thoughts, I lie down on the couch until the > thoughts pass. Sometimes I sweat a bit before they are all gone, but not > enough to need towels and fans, thank goodness. > > On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote: > >> I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a >> Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if >> anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to >> really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike >> commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift >> compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the >> basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t >> enjoy biking in the rain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Whenever I have Bike Trainer Thoughts, I lie down on the couch until the thoughts pass. Sometimes I sweat a bit before they are all gone, but not enough to need towels and fans, thank goodness. On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
After suffering several different kinds of indoor exercise, I find this advice refreshingly refreshing! On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Garth wrote: > [...] I prefer walking my local hills in winter, trouncing through snow, > the woods and fresh air and natural light. In winter I don't even think > about bicycles. When spring comes then I eventually start riding again > when it's well warm enough. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I long resisted a trainer as I have always found them to be torture. However, this year I broke down and bought one. I purchased the Cyclops Fluid 2, not a smart trainer just something to spin indoors. Last November and December I only managed one ride combined. Less due to temperature (I live in GA so our winters are laughable compared to many list members) but more due to less daylight to get in my rides. In November and December of this year I have managed 15 rides (while adding in running on the treadmill as well for some variety). Therefore it has been a success in my mind. I agree with the suggestions above: a fan is a must. Even in a basement with the thermostat on 64 I sweat buckets. I keep 2 towels handy and they are soaked after a 45-60 minute ride. I have not managed to stay on for any longer than that, but I am glad to at least be doing something. I have tried watching movies and listening to music. Neither pass the time quickly, but they help distract me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
Peloton. We bought it in the spring, my wife, son and I use it. I'm about to get on it now. Been using it this week since it's been in the teens here in eastern PA. The ride instructors keep it from being boring and help with form. The music is great as well. Sweat buckets, but not to worry since the drive train is enclosed. It's been well worth the money for us. JohnS On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 5:30:37 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > I've had both a Turbo trainer back in the day and recently sold my > Krietler rollers. Rollers were by far my preference. Easy to ride, > including pedaling smooth and riding straight. When you go out on the road > you "remember" how easy it is to ride straight and smooth. > > Enjoyable ? Yes, no, maybe .. hah compared to what ? I sold the > rollers as I prefer walking my local hills in winter, trouncing through > snow, the woods and fresh air and natural light. In winter I don't even > think about bicycles. When spring comes then I eventually start riding > again when it's well warm enough. > > If you do ride inside, wear a towel around your neck inside if you like, > wipe your face . Blast a high speed fan in front of you if you like. You > don't have to sweat on the bike or on the ground, no one if forcing you, > you're not missing anything and you're not adding anything, the world won't > stop rotating and it won't go any faster. Sheesh .. just ride, or not, > however you want, slow or fast. Enjoy life in every way no matter what. > Smile , even frowns are smile seen from above :) > > > On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: >> >> I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a >> Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if >> anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to >> really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike >> commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift >> compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the >> basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t >> enjoy biking in the rain. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I've had both a Turbo trainer back in the day and recently sold my Krietler rollers. Rollers were by far my preference. Easy to ride, including pedaling smooth and riding straight. When you go out on the road you "remember" how easy it is to ride straight and smooth. Enjoyable ? Yes, no, maybe .. hah compared to what ? I sold the rollers as I prefer walking my local hills in winter, trouncing through snow, the woods and fresh air and natural light. In winter I don't even think about bicycles. When spring comes then I eventually start riding again when it's well warm enough. If you do ride inside, wear a towel around your neck inside if you like, wipe your face . Blast a high speed fan in front of you if you like. You don't have to sweat on the bike or on the ground, no one if forcing you, you're not missing anything and you're not adding anything, the world won't stop rotating and it won't go any faster. Sheesh .. just ride, or not, however you want, slow or fast. Enjoy life in every way no matter what. Smile , even frowns are smile seen from above :) On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I've had my Ram on a magnetic trainer numerous winters. Get yourself a "trainer" tire or you'll burn through a good road time in no time. As for slaying the mind numbing boredom, LOUD music has worked best for me and try to mix up your training with intervals. I highly recommend a protector for your frame and more importantly your headset as you don't want to be dripping sweat all over your bike On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 12:29:16 PM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts
I have a Wahoo Kickr Snap. I love it! My Saluki is permanently affixed unless I take it outside. I use Zwift a few times a week. A lot of different routes to decrease boredom. You can do training regimens and even join real life rides/races with people around the word. I highly recommend this combination for those who can get outside, no matter the reason. On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I’m not sure if this is off-topic. I would use the trainer with a > Rivendell bike. I’m considering getting a bike trainer and wondering if > anybody has experience with one. I have a kid and sometimes it’s hard to > really go out for a long ride. Sometimes might be generous. Besides my bike > commute it is hard to ever go out riding. I also like the idea of a Zwift > compatible trainer. I also worry this will be an item that just sits in the > basement and I never use. But mostly for the winter when my kid doesn’t > enjoy biking in the rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
