Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-06 Thread Tim Gavin
Ben-

I also recommend the Hollywood sport rider.  The wheel wells are very
adjustable (for your different wheel bases), and the frame clamp is
secure.  The frame clamp may reach low enough to grab the mid-tube on your
wife's Betty, or you may want to add a clamp-on crossbar
http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-bike-adapter-pro.

The threaded hitch bolt on the Hollywood helps reduce sway.

Other racks with a similar tray-and-frame-clamp design:
Saris Freedom
Swagman XC and XTC

The big wheel holders on the Saris Thelma interfere with fenders, FYI.

Tim

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 I suggest you take a look at these Sport Rider racks:
 :
 http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-racks-hitch-racks


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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-03 Thread Cecily Walker
I hope it works out for you, Michael. Good luck!

On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 8:25:43 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Anyway,  I made the financially unwise decision to go ahead and sprung for 
 the 1upUSA.  When I get it I'll post a review.



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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-02 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
I suggest you take a look at these Sport Rider racks:
:
http://www.modernbike.com/hollywood-racks-hitch-racks

 

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have been riding bikes with fenders for about 15 years now and have only 
 found one downside - they often don't play well with racks, neither locking 
 racks nor car racks.

 We have a Saris  TBones Hitch rack on our Prius and I found it worked well 
 with both my Saluki or Ram and Pat's Sequoia.  However I have never liked 
 having the weight of the bikes up that high with the additional stress it 
 puts on the rack and hitch.  Now Pat has switched to riding a Betty with 
 Albatross bars and I am always struggling to make the two bikes fit.  It is 
 doable as a two person job.  I bought and tried one of these parallel TT 
 but it made the situation worse. It's a challenge to get the her handle 
 bars  my front rackto clear.  Likewise my bars  her rear rack.  Since 
 both bikes have racks  fenders, they are fairly heavy as bike go today but 
 still within the racks spec.  Still the vertical support flexes some under 
 load.

 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-02 Thread BenG
This discussion has been helpful for me. Want to carry a big Long bike and a 
tiny Betty Foy, both fendered, and the LBS acted justly by withdrawing their 
offerings.  Looking forward to your review!
Ben

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-01 Thread Cecily Walker
I have an earlier model of one of these on my Ford 
Focus: 
http://www.rackattack.com/product-pages/yakima-highlite-2-silver-hitch-bike-carrier.asp
 
. The bike doesn't sit in a well, it's suspended from the rack with ties 
and other gizmos.

The best part was it came with a sissy bar that I can put on the Betty 
(or any other step-through bikes) so I can keep it level with my 
ex-husband's diamond frame bike. I've had no trouble with fenders, baskets, 
giant Bosco handlebars, or anything. I've even carried a 42-pound Dutch 
upright city bicycle on the back of the Focus without problem. 

The installation, chassis work and rack cost us about $900-ish, but it was 
money well spent. 

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:


 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
Interesting Cecily, I have a similar suspension rack from Saris and found 
that the sissy bar put her albatross bars right into the real wheel and 
rack on my Saluki.  Without the bar we can struggle to mount the bike 
between the down tubes but then it will clear the rear of my bike.  And if 
the two of us work together I can get my drop bars disentangled from her 
rear, large Nitto rack.  All in all, annoying.

Anyway,  I made the financially unwise decision to go ahead and sprung for 
the 1upUSA.  When I get it I'll post a review.

Michael

On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 4:57:16 AM UTC-4, Cecily Walker wrote:

 I have an earlier model of one of these on my Ford Focus: 
 http://www.rackattack.com/product-pages/yakima-highlite-2-silver-hitch-bike-carrier.asp
  
 . The bike doesn't sit in a well, it's suspended from the rack with ties 
 and other gizmos.

 The best part was it came with a sissy bar that I can put on the Betty 
 (or any other step-through bikes) so I can keep it level with my 
 ex-husband's diamond frame bike. I've had no trouble with fenders, baskets, 
 giant Bosco handlebars, or anything. I've even carried a 42-pound Dutch 
 upright city bicycle on the back of the Focus without problem. 

 The installation, chassis work and rack cost us about $900-ish, but it was 
 money well spent. 

 On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:


 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael



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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-07-01 Thread MKahrl
Hitch racks that support the wheels and have a hook to hold the top tube 
such as the Swagman do not work well if you have two large frame bikes to 
carry.  

The Thule doubletrack 990 does handle big frame bikes well.   It's also 
easier to move the wheel holders and the wheel holders have clamps over the 
rims.  And everything is lockable.  And you can open your trunk while the 
bikes are there.  And the rack folds up when the bikes are off.   And all 
these features are easy to use.

 I use a roof rack in the spring and summer when I haul lots of bikes 
frequently but it's nice to remove the roof rack in winter and use this 
hitch rack.

On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 12:39:37 AM UTC-4, Stephen D wrote:


 I've often wondered about Yakima and Thule hitch racks that have trays but 
 use a clamp on the top tube instead of the tires, likes this:  
 http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/hitch/twotimer or 
 http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
 .

 Good luck and keep us posted!
 Stephen


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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-18 Thread Stephen D
Great question - we've had the same question for quite some time and just 
haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.

Jinxed's response got me curious about 1Up with fenders -- I found this: 
http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/902008-1up-usa-rack-fender-cushions-question.html
.

I've often wondered about Yakima and Thule hitch racks that have trays but 
use a clamp on the top tube instead of the tires, likes this:  
http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/hitch/twotimer or 
http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
.

Good luck and keep us posted!
Stephen

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-13 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yea, the site is pretty clunky. i also thought they were spendy till I started 
looking at the other offerings. For me, it ended up being a wash because I only 
needed to carry one bike, but it had to be a tray style. Every other offering 
was 2 or more bikes and cost equal or more even with my shop discount! I 
actually became aware of them from another parent at my daughters school. I 
kept seeing their car with the rack on it, and honestly thought it was custom 
made. I finally waited by their car one day to ask them about it. (Is that 
creepy?) They were totally happy to chat about it and gave me a full demo 
taking their bike on and off, and the rack on and off. I was sold and frankly 
amazed they are not more prevalent.

The 1UP not only ticked my known requirements, but surprised me with some I 
didn't know. It fits very close to the car when the tray is in use and pivots 
up even closer when empty. I LOVE that it can be removed in seconds, folded, 
and stowed in my tiny hatchback trunk when not in use. Although my need is one 
bike at the moment, being modular, I can add two more trays if need be. It's 
also extremely stout with nary a wiggle from the bike once locked in. On top of 
all that, it looks like it should have paul machined into it someplace. It's 
the new retro of hitch racks. 

For the record, I have no affiliation with these guys and paid full retail. 

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-13 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
The 1UP looks like a nice unit. I watched the video but didn't see them 
install or remove a bike. I'd like to know if it would work with fenders 
and or basket.
I have fork mounts on the front wall of my pick-up bed but the front rack 
and basket negate using that.
For now I just lay my bike down in the bed of my pick-up and bungee it and 
wrap towels around the Brooks and where the handlebars touch the bed.

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:09:59 AM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 Yea, the site is pretty clunky. i also thought they were spendy till I 
 started looking at the other offerings. For me, it ended up being a wash 
 because I only needed to carry one bike, but it had to be a tray style. 
 Every other offering was 2 or more bikes and cost equal or more even with 
 my shop discount! I actually became aware of them from another parent at my 
 daughters school. I kept seeing their car with the rack on it, and honestly 
 thought it was custom made. I finally waited by their car one day to ask 
 them about it. (Is that creepy?) They were totally happy to chat about it 
 and gave me a full demo taking their bike on and off, and the rack on and 
 off. I was sold and frankly amazed they are not more prevalent. 

 The 1UP not only ticked my known requirements, but surprised me with some 
 I didn't know. It fits very close to the car when the tray is in use and 
 pivots up even closer when empty. I LOVE that it can be removed in seconds, 
 folded, and stowed in my tiny hatchback trunk when not in use. Although my 
 need is one bike at the moment, being modular, I can add two more trays if 
 need be. It's also extremely stout with nary a wiggle from the bike once 
 locked in. On top of all that, it looks like it should have paul machined 
 into it someplace. It's the new retro of hitch racks. 

 For the record, I have no affiliation with these guys and paid full 
 retail. 

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-13 Thread KC
I started a similar thread about a month ago when we needed to purchase a 
new bike and I wanted a platform as my hanging one seemed to be killing my 
mixte.  We were concerned with both a mixte and fenders.  The 1up was 
highly recommended to me and confirmed that it was fine with fenders Here's 
the comment re that sent to me off-list I have fenders on my Surly Long 
Haul Trucker and I bought the foam pad thingy 1Up makes for a few extra 
dollars which works very well and doesn’t crush the fender. I did notice 
that on the back fender that the struts (the arms that straddle the wheel) 
actually touch the fender struts which connect it to the back stays - at 
first I was a bit worried about bending them  then I realized that if 
anything, it kept the bike more securely upright in the rack, without me 
needing to “clamp” the fender/wheel as hard, and that it had no ill effects 
on the fender alignment.

I really liked everything I saw about the 1up, but we ended up going with 
the Hollywood Rack instead (also recommended in the thread).  It was about 
half the cost and seemed fine, even if not quite as substantial.  The 
initial install was pretty easy - you have to set the platforms in the 
proper positions for the specific bikes and that takes a couple of 
minutes.  For $350 we got the carrier that works either as a 2-bike carrier 
or adds the extension to make it a 4-bike.  To this point we've only used 
it for the 2 and haven't even attached the extension.  It loads so fast it 
is amazing.  As a non-tall woman I love that I can easily lift my bike 
on/off and that it puts things at eye level.  

The bar is nicely padded and clamps on the top tube of the bike and on my 
mixte it nestles perfectly where it meats the seat tube.  The instructions 
are to place the bikes opposite one another but when we did that, there was 
some slight interference and we put them the same direction instead of 
messing with seats, etc.  And it worked perfectly.  Both are very 
secure.  It is a little concerning that the tires extend through 
the platform so I have visions of crunching my bike if the tires hit on an 
incline.  But it is very clear that the bottom of the carrier will hit 
first since the platforms sit up higher, so I know they are safe.  We are 
able to keep the rack on all the time and tilt it for access to the back of 
the car, not quite as nice as the swing-away hanging rack we had before, 
but not bad.  And it is so easy to unload/load the bikes that even if we 
have to remove them to do something (like pull a kayak off roof), it's not 
a big deal.

We tow our jeep behind an rv with the rack mounted to the jeep.  The 
instructions say not to use it for a tow vehicle or on a trailer, but it 
seems to be just fine and it seems like a standard thing with all the racks 
and we've always done it w/o problems.  So just hoping it is just a 
standard disclaimer which must be related to the added length affecting how 
it handles on an incline but we have to be careful of that already (the 
hitch between the rv and car would likely hit so we'd be forewarned) 

Here's a picture attached) of our 2 bikes on it the first time we used it.  
Not sure it's the greatest picture but could take better on Mon/Tues when 
we load up for our big trip.  We will also probably be putting the added 
attachment on at that time so we have the flexibility to carry other bikes 
with us since it's a group trip.  
  
(We had also considered the Kuat since it seemed great, but never had an 
opportunity to see one and it was very pricey also.  Saw one week before 
last in a parking lot and it is a beautiful, sturdy-looking frame.  Looks 
much more substantial than ours, but we are completely happy with our 
purchase) 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:28:40 AM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:

 The 1UP looks like a nice unit. I watched the video but didn't see them 
 install or remove a bike. I'd like to know if it would work with fenders 
 and or basket.
 I have fork mounts on the front wall of my pick-up bed but the front rack 
 and basket negate using that.
 For now I just lay my bike down in the bed of my pick-up and bungee it and 
 wrap towels around the Brooks and where the handlebars touch the bed.

 On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:09:59 AM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 Yea, the site is pretty clunky. i also thought they were spendy till I 
 started looking at the other offerings. For me, it ended up being a wash 
 because I only needed to carry one bike, but it had to be a tray style. 
 Every other offering was 2 or more bikes and cost equal or more even with 
 my shop discount! I actually became aware of them from another parent at my 
 daughters school. I kept seeing their car with the rack on it, and honestly 
 thought it was custom made. I finally waited by their car one day to ask 
 them about it. (Is that creepy?) They were totally happy to chat about it 
 and gave me a full demo taking their bike on and off, 

[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Hechmer
If you look on their website, under accessories you will see an adapter for 
fenders $13 each.

Michael

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:

 The 1UP looks like a nice unit. I watched the video but didn't see them 
 install or remove a bike. I'd like to know if it would work with fenders 
 and or basket.
 I have fork mounts on the front wall of my pick-up bed but the front rack 
 and basket negate using that.
 For now I just lay my bike down in the bed of my pick-up and bungee it and 
 wrap towels around the Brooks and where the handlebars touch the bed.

 On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:09:59 AM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 Yea, the site is pretty clunky. i also thought they were spendy till I 
 started looking at the other offerings. For me, it ended up being a wash 
 because I only needed to carry one bike, but it had to be a tray style. 
 Every other offering was 2 or more bikes and cost equal or more even with 
 my shop discount! I actually became aware of them from another parent at my 
 daughters school. I kept seeing their car with the rack on it, and honestly 
 thought it was custom made. I finally waited by their car one day to ask 
 them about it. (Is that creepy?) They were totally happy to chat about it 
 and gave me a full demo taking their bike on and off, and the rack on and 
 off. I was sold and frankly amazed they are not more prevalent. 

 The 1UP not only ticked my known requirements, but surprised me with some 
 I didn't know. It fits very close to the car when the tray is in use and 
 pivots up even closer when empty. I LOVE that it can be removed in seconds, 
 folded, and stowed in my tiny hatchback trunk when not in use. Although my 
 need is one bike at the moment, being modular, I can add two more trays if 
 need be. It's also extremely stout with nary a wiggle from the bike once 
 locked in. On top of all that, it looks like it should have paul machined 
 into it someplace. It's the new retro of hitch racks. 

 For the record, I have no affiliation with these guys and paid full 
 retail. 



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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-13 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
I see that now..Thanks!
Jon

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 9:40:25 AM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 If you look on their website, under accessories you will see an adapter 
 for fenders $13 each.

 Michael

 On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, Jon Dukeman in the 
 foothills of Colorado wrote:

 The 1UP looks like a nice unit. I watched the video but didn't see them 
 install or remove a bike. I'd like to know if it would work with fenders 
 and or basket.
 I have fork mounts on the front wall of my pick-up bed but the front rack 
 and basket negate using that.
 For now I just lay my bike down in the bed of my pick-up and bungee it 
 and wrap towels around the Brooks and where the handlebars touch the bed.

 On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 7:09:59 AM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 Yea, the site is pretty clunky. i also thought they were spendy till I 
 started looking at the other offerings. For me, it ended up being a wash 
 because I only needed to carry one bike, but it had to be a tray style. 
 Every other offering was 2 or more bikes and cost equal or more even with 
 my shop discount! I actually became aware of them from another parent at my 
 daughters school. I kept seeing their car with the rack on it, and honestly 
 thought it was custom made. I finally waited by their car one day to ask 
 them about it. (Is that creepy?) They were totally happy to chat about it 
 and gave me a full demo taking their bike on and off, and the rack on and 
 off. I was sold and frankly amazed they are not more prevalent. 

 The 1UP not only ticked my known requirements, but surprised me with 
 some I didn't know. It fits very close to the car when the tray is in use 
 and pivots up even closer when empty. I LOVE that it can be removed in 
 seconds, folded, and stowed in my tiny hatchback trunk when not in use. 
 Although my need is one bike at the moment, being modular, I can add two 
 more trays if need be. It's also extremely stout with nary a wiggle from 
 the bike once locked in. On top of all that, it looks like it should have 
 paul machined into it someplace. It's the new retro of hitch racks. 

 For the record, I have no affiliation with these guys and paid full 
 retail. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread John
Hi Hugh, 

   I tried a stem-to-seatpost adapter, but it just didn't seem secure 
enough, so I just tilt the frame and use the Betty's top tube.

I had to remove one of the two water bottle cages. If we ever go somewhere 
she'll need two water bottles, I can always bring a cage  two bolts. Or 
use a couple of Randi Jo M.U.T's.

I've been really impressed by the Thule Apex 4. At first I was terrified to 
put our babies out back on the rack, but it's a right sturdy rack.

John

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 1:19:51 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 John,

 Do you need an adapter to mount your wife's betty?



 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



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 wrote:


 We use a Thule Apex 4 for my 54cm Hunqapillar  my wife's 47cm Betty Foy 
 on the back of our Honda CRV. 

 Works well with Rivified bikes with fenders, racks  baskets.

 John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Ron Mc
Jim, 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/lighthouse%20lakes/aP3140005.jpg

it's great for kayaks, too


On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 9:56:16 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 That's about the only thing I miss about having a pick'm'up truck, it's 
 great for hauling bikes around.


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Hugh Smitham
John,

Do you need an adapter to mount your wife's betty?



~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



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 We use a Thule Apex 4 for my 54cm Hunqapillar  my wife's 47cm Betty Foy
 on the back of our Honda CRV.

 Works well with Rivified bikes with fenders, racks  baskets.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
Actually the adapter made it even harder.  It's always a bit of work to get 
the cradle through the  sloped tubes but that puts her bars above my rear 
seat.  With the adapter her bars and my seat or rear wheel want the same 
space.

Michael 

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 4:19:51 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 John,

 Do you need an adapter to mount your wife's betty?



 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



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 We use a Thule Apex 4 for my 54cm Hunqapillar  my wife's 47cm Betty Foy 
 on the back of our Honda CRV. 

 Works well with Rivified bikes with fenders, racks  baskets.

 John

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Michael Hechmer
Wow, that 1up rack looks really nice but they don't exactly give them away! 
 And their web site could use some help.

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 Michael, be sure to check out 1up USA. I cannot stress how much I love 
 their hitch rack. Working in the industry, I've sold, installed, and used 
 every rack under the sun, and this one is by far the best I've ever seen. 
 It's also made in the USA. 

 I don't run fenders so I can't comment on that compatibility, but the only 
 issues I could imagine would be protecting them from the clamping arms. 

 https://www.1upusa.com/bicycleracks.html

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread John

We use a Thule Apex 4 for my 54cm Hunqapillar  my wife's 47cm Betty Foy on 
the back of our Honda CRV. 

Works well with Rivified bikes with fenders, racks  baskets.

John

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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread blakcloud
Toyota does not recommend hitch racks on my car so that leaves a roof rack 
for me. When I looked at buying a roof rack to accommodate a Betty Foy and 
Sam Hillborne with Fenders and Wald baskets the price was a real sticker 
shock for me. At well over a thousand dollars (Canadian), I decided to just 
use our Bromptons instead. They aren't as comfortable, in fact they are 
horrible but until I pony up for a roof rack, then they will have to do.  

And I wholly agree with Michael, the 1up website really needs some help. 

Still dreaming of a roof rack though. 





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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Ron Mc
only with a p/u truck, but the Softride tailgate pad works great with 
fender bikes and mixtes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aaP3290001.jpg  
   
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aPB39.jpg
  

in the second photo, hauling four bikes, including my buddy's Santana 
tandem, though for it we added transverse straps across the front of the 
bed, grabbing the rack lugs on the seat stays 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Jim Bronson
That's about the only thing I miss about having a pick'm'up truck, it's
great for hauling bikes around.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 only with a p/u truck, but the Softride tailgate pad works great with
 fender bikes and mixtes


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aaP3290001.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/bike/aPB39.jpg


 in the second photo, hauling four bikes, including my buddy's Santana
 tandem, though for it we added transverse straps across the front of the
 bed, grabbing the rack lugs on the seat stays



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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread Mathew Greiner
I have a Saris that works great. Rock solid. Made in the US. It's a 
two-biker, and the two I haul most frequently both have Albas. I mount them 
tail to head. Not sure that's required. It's just what happens. 
Mine is not the top clamp version, it's the less expensive Freedom 2 model 
with zip straps. No fender problems.

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 7:52:05 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have been riding bikes with fenders for about 15 years now and have only 
 found one downside - they often don't play well with racks, neither locking 
 racks nor car racks.

 We have a Saris  TBones Hitch rack on our Prius and I found it worked well 
 with both my Saluki or Ram and Pat's Sequoia.  However I have never liked 
 having the weight of the bikes up that high with the additional stress it 
 puts on the rack and hitch.  Now Pat has switched to riding a Betty with 
 Albatross bars and I am always struggling to make the two bikes fit.  It is 
 doable as a two person job.  I bought and tried one of these parallel TT 
 but it made the situation worse. It's a challenge to get the her handle 
 bars  my front rackto clear.  Likewise my bars  her rear rack.  Since 
 both bikes have racks  fenders, they are fairly heavy as bike go today but 
 still within the racks spec.  Still the vertical support flexes some under 
 load.

 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: Car Racks Rivs

2015-06-12 Thread hsmitham
Michael,

Pretty sure you've already tried this but I'll forge ahead anyway. My wife 
and I both have Riv's with Albatross bars outfitted with racks, bags and 
baskets, using any rack is a challenge. I've used a number of them over the 
years.

Currently on my Miata I use a Saris Freedom hitch rack 
https://www.saris.com/product/freedom-2 ( tray type with central mast that 
attaches to the down tube)

And on our truck with camper I have a swing away hitch rack ( the type that 
suspends the bike from the top tube) to have access to the rear. 
 http://www.yakima.com/shop/bike/hitch/swingdaddy An arm adapter is 
required on this one with the Mixte.

In both cases I have to loosen the stem and rotate the handle bars and 
either lower or raise the seat to clear each other. I make sure to mark 
seat and handlebar height/position obviously. 

I used to have a Thule hitch rack like the one you're considering. The 
stabilizing arm ideally makes contact with the top of the front tire. I 
suppose you could cheat it a bit forward to clear the leading edge of the 
fender but that wouldn't be optimal.

https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-t2-2-bike-916xtr-_-916xtr
 

In one of the pictures in the above link  you can see where the stabilizing 
arm makes contact with the front tire. I sold mine when I sold our other 
truck and bought the Miata. The Saris is much lighter weight. All have 
pluses and minuses.

Hope I was of some help.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh  

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:52:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have been riding bikes with fenders for about 15 years now and have only 
 found one downside - they often don't play well with racks, neither locking 
 racks nor car racks.

 We have a Saris  TBones Hitch rack on our Prius and I found it worked well 
 with both my Saluki or Ram and Pat's Sequoia.  However I have never liked 
 having the weight of the bikes up that high with the additional stress it 
 puts on the rack and hitch.  Now Pat has switched to riding a Betty with 
 Albatross bars and I am always struggling to make the two bikes fit.  It is 
 doable as a two person job.  I bought and tried one of these parallel TT 
 but it made the situation worse. It's a challenge to get the her handle 
 bars  my front rackto clear.  Likewise my bars  her rear rack.  Since 
 both bikes have racks  fenders, they are fairly heavy as bike go today but 
 still within the racks spec.  Still the vertical support flexes some under 
 load.

 So... I have been looking at a new hitch racks, especially ones where the 
 bikes sit in a well and get clamped around the tire.  Does anyone have 
 experience with these to share?  Do you have to put the top clamp around 
 the tire, or is it OK to put it over the fender?  The Yakima rack 
 installation instructions specifically say to put the top hook within 2 of 
 the fork, which clearly rules out using it with any top rack, like my 
 Mark's mini.  The Saris instructions don't say that is necessary, but the 
 video on their web site shows them setting it up that way.  Finally, how 
 close together are the wells; is there sufficient space for Albatross bars?

 Michael


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