Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[DavidP]

I came across this Kickstarter campaign 

 
for a rack mounted device designed to securely hold shopping bags and was 
reminded of this thread. It's interesting if you mostly use these types of 
reusable grocery bags.

-Dave

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 7:36:56 PM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:

> I have a Burley Nomad and a Burley Travoy (seat post mount). I have found 
> that the axle hitch on the Nomad doesn’t fit on my little 26” Appaloosa as 
> the curved drop out protector comes in too tight to allow the Nomad hitch 
> to sit flat, so I leave the Nomad hitch on the Clem, and the Travoy hitch 
> on the Appa.  I bought the extra shopping bags for the Travoy so loading it 
> works better than the big soft sided bag it comes with.  I also have the 
> choice of Backabike bags and a Nitto basket rack and Wald racer basket on 
> the Clem if I am not shopping for as much stuff. The Clem is nice and 
> stable with panniers - it is a 26” wheel 2019 45cm. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>
>>
>>> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household, 
>>> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff 
>>> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.
>>
>>
>> I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my 
>> legs as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)
>>
>> I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.
>>
>> It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could 
>> mostly coast home... 
>>
>> EricF
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Dorothy C]

I have a Burley Nomad and a Burley Travoy (seat post mount). I have found 
that the axle hitch on the Nomad doesn’t fit on my little 26” Appaloosa as 
the curved drop out protector comes in too tight to allow the Nomad hitch 
to sit flat, so I leave the Nomad hitch on the Clem, and the Travoy hitch 
on the Appa.  I bought the extra shopping bags for the Travoy so loading it 
works better than the big soft sided bag it comes with.  I also have the 
choice of Backabike bags and a Nitto basket rack and Wald racer basket on 
the Clem if I am not shopping for as much stuff. The Clem is nice and 
stable with panniers - it is a 26” wheel 2019 45cm. 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

>
>> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household, 
>> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff 
>> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.
>
>
> I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my 
> legs as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)
>
> I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.
>
> It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could 
> mostly coast home... 
>
> EricF
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household,
> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff
> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.


I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my legs
as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)

I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.

It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could
mostly coast home...

EricF

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Caroline Golum]

I have a pretty simple setup: rear rack with a basket. Here's the 
configuration in action on my way to a DJ gig.

For bigger hauls I just throw panniers on either side of the rack
 [image: unnamed.jpg]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been very happy with my Burly Nomad 
> , and generally leave the hitch 
> mounted on the bike most of the time. I’m not certain why trailers are not 
> used by more people. I find it safer and easier to manage loads. Takes up a 
> bit more space where ever you may be locking up, but that’s a small price.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:45:49 AM UTC-5 MisterMo wrote:
>
>> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
>> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse 
 cargo bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag 
 (open, below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker 
 Brandon of CycleCats. Fits A Lot.

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:

 

 

 so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
 brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
 getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
 is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
 the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
 them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
 fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
 are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
 the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
 buckets, but i kinda like the look!  

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:

 A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
> and we're golden...

 Alex in SF
> <0-1.jpg>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
> aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:
>
>> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
>> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
>> on 
>> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>>
>> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>>> in 
>>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>>> been 
>>> awesome!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 I know this probably has been discussed before.

 If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
 transporting groceries or other items?

 I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
 a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes 
 I use 
 the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
 balancing the load.

 I think this can be a risky method.

 I need to find some decent grocery panniers.

 Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.

 Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .

 Paul in Dallas






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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Caroline Golum]

I have a pretty simple setup: rear rack with a basket. Here's the 
configuration in action on my way to a DJ gig.

For bigger hauls I just throw panniers on either side of the rack 

[image: Image_20231010_111412.jpeg]

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:04:03 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been very happy with my Burly Nomad 
> , and generally leave the hitch 
> mounted on the bike most of the time. I’m not certain why trailers are not 
> used by more people. I find it safer and easier to manage loads. Takes up a 
> bit more space where ever you may be locking up, but that’s a small price.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:45:49 AM UTC-5 MisterMo wrote:
>
>> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
>> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>>
>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse 
 cargo bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag 
 (open, below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker 
 Brandon of CycleCats. Fits A Lot.

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:

 

 

 so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
 brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
 getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
 is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
 the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
 them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
 fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
 are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
 the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
 buckets, but i kinda like the look!  

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:

 A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
> and we're golden...

 Alex in SF
> <0-1.jpg>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
> aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:
>
>> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
>> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
>> on 
>> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>>
>> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>>> in 
>>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>>> been 
>>> awesome!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 I know this probably has been discussed before.

 If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
 transporting groceries or other items?

 I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
 a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes 
 I use 
 the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
 balancing the load.

 I think this can be a risky method.

 I need to find some decent grocery panniers.

 Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.

 Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .

 Paul in Dallas






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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Ted Fay]

I’ve been very happy with my Burly Nomad , 
and generally leave the hitch mounted on the bike most of the time. I’m not 
certain why trailers are not used by more people. I find it safer and 
easier to manage loads. Takes up a bit more space where ever you may be 
locking up, but that’s a small price.

 

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:45:49 AM UTC-5 MisterMo wrote:

> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse cargo 
>>> bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag (open, 
>>> below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker Brandon of 
>>> CycleCats. Fits A Lot.
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
>>> brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
>>> getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
>>> is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
>>> the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
>>> them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
>>> fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
>>> 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
>>> are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
>>> the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
>>> buckets, but i kinda like the look!  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:
>>>
>>> A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
 and we're golden...
>>>
>>> Alex in SF
 <0-1.jpg>


 On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
 aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:

> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
> on 
> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>
> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>> in 
>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>> been 
>> awesome!  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know this probably has been discussed before.
>>>
>>> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
>>> transporting groceries or other items?
>>>
>>> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
>>> a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I 
>>> use 
>>> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
>>> balancing the load.
>>>
>>> I think this can be a risky method.
>>>
>>> I need to find some decent grocery panniers.
>>>
>>> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.
>>>
>>> Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Luke Hendrickson]

@MisterMo: bc why not? :)
On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 6:45:49 AM UTC-7 MisterMo wrote:

> ^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
> front basket and rear rack with no panniers?
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>> Just got a B.O.B.!
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse cargo 
>>> bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag (open, 
>>> below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker Brandon of 
>>> CycleCats. Fits A Lot.
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
>>> brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
>>> getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
>>> is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
>>> the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
>>> them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
>>> fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
>>> 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
>>> are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
>>> the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
>>> buckets, but i kinda like the look!  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:
>>>
>>> A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps 
 and we're golden...
>>>
>>> Alex in SF
 <0-1.jpg>


 On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 
 aelga...@castilleja.org wrote:

> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school 
> when I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced 
> on 
> my handlebars every morning. 😊
>
> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
>> in 
>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
>> been 
>> awesome!  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know this probably has been discussed before.
>>>
>>> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
>>> transporting groceries or other items?
>>>
>>> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle 
>>> a couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I 
>>> use 
>>> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
>>> balancing the load.
>>>
>>> I think this can be a risky method.
>>>
>>> I need to find some decent grocery panniers.
>>>
>>> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.
>>>
>>> Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Wesley]

Include me in the pannier party. Once I felt I had reached the limit of 
safe riding with a Costco run (low-speed shimmies, though everything was 
smooth and stable at "speed".) Got home and weighed the load, it was 55 
pounds. Rear rack only, Ortlieb "city" panniers.
-Wes

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 6:28:42 PM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
> I know this probably has been discussed before.
>
> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of transporting 
> groceries or other items?
>
> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle a 
> couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I use 
> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
> balancing the load.
>
> I think this can be a risky method.
>
> I need to find some decent grocery panniers.
>
> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.
>
> Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[MisterMo]

^^This looks great, cool bike! But why use a B.O.B. when you have an open 
front basket and rear rack with no panniers?

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Just got a B.O.B.!
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse cargo 
>> bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag (open, 
>> below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker Brandon of 
>> CycleCats. Fits A Lot.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
>> brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
>> getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
>> is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
>> the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
>> them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
>> fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
>> 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
>> are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
>> the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
>> buckets, but i kinda like the look!  
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:
>>
>> A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps and 
>>> we're golden...
>>
>> Alex in SF
>>> <0-1.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 aelga...@castilleja.org 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school when 
 I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced on my 
 handlebars every morning. 😊

 Ahmed in Redwood City 

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  wrote:

> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute 
> in 
> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have 
> been 
> awesome!  
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I know this probably has been discussed before.
>>
>> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
>> transporting groceries or other items?
>>
>> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle a 
>> couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I 
>> use 
>> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
>> balancing the load.
>>
>> I think this can be a risky method.
>>
>> I need to find some decent grocery panniers.
>>
>> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.
>>
>> Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Eric Marth]

Hi Paul — If you're regularly hauling loads like in your picture it would 
be worthwhile to get set up with some good racks and panniers. A handlebar 
load of 36 lbs sounds dicey! I'm impressed you got a photo of the bars 
loaded up while in motion. 

I've had a few setups over the years. The one that allowed me the most 
volume was a LHT with front and rear Surly racks (they're very stout). I 
had a Wald 137 up front with a Sackville shop sack and I'd run two of the Jandd 
grocery panniers  in the 
back. The Jandd bags are the size of a standard brown paper grocery bag. I 
could haul some serious weight! Sometimes I'd strap a 12-pack of seltzer to 
the flat part of the rack between two fully loaded panniers. These days I 
do much more frequent and smaller grocery runs with my Appaloosa or 
Hillborne. There's a nice grocery store that's 3/4 mile from my house and I 
go there frequently, sometimes every day. 

I use my bicycle as a grocery cart inside the store. Both of the grocery 
stores I frequent have bike racks outside but I've found that wheeling my 
bike inside saves me time and effort. I go in the store with the bike, fill 
the bag, check out, reload the bag, go home, take the groceries inside. On 
my Appaloosa I'll attach a Wald 139 to my Nitto M1 with Voile straps and 
then set a medium Sackville shopsack inside. My Hillborne has a Ron's Bikes 
Fab's Abs which holds enough for a small trip (avocados, chocolate, 
fermented beets, some carrots). Both bikes have a Widefoot liter cage which 
is good for managing a little extra volume like a quart of yogurt or 
certain bottles of sparkling water. There are a few items that fit a 
standard bottle cage as well. 

With the Appaloosa/Sackville combo I really appreciate being able to grab 
the bag out of the basket and walk inside. I've run Ron's Bikes Fab's Chest 
bags and used them for groceries. They hold a lot of stuff but when I get 
home I have to unload the bag into a box or something then carry everything 
inside and that's a pain. 

For a brief and shining moment one of the grocery stores offered a scanning 
app that allowed customers to scan barcodes with their phone. I only had to 
load up once, then scan my phone at the self-checkout. I loved that I 
didn't have to unload everything to scan it at checkout. That was great, I 
was so fast. Another note on expedience: locking up the bike outside adds 
two walks across the parking lot, plus unlocking, plus loading the bike 
with my bag of groceries. So I've settled on the bike-as-cart method. Works 
better for small and frequent trips rather than big hauls up to 40 pounds. 

I realize it's certainly not for everyone. I try to go at off times when 
the stores aren't very busy. It also attracts attention and some people 
find it odd or bothersome (because it's unexpected and different). Kids 
stare in wonder. 

Let us know what you end up doing!

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Just got a B.O.B.!
>
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse cargo 
>> bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag (open, 
>> below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker Brandon of 
>> CycleCats. Fits A Lot.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> so, this is my Giant commuter bikea series of health 'issues' 
>> brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am 
>> getting back on  the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully) the front basket 
>> is a Wald 157, and  'Kitty Litter' buckets  with fittings that 'snap' onto 
>> the rear rackThe clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got 
>> them through velofred.com.  he carries a variety of mounting 
>> fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc.   I have a 
>> 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier.   the clips 
>> are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry 
>> the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter 
>> buckets, but i kinda like the look!  
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K  wrote:
>>
>> A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps and 
>>> we're golden...
>>
>> Alex in SF
>>> <0-1.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 aelga...@castilleja.org 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school when 
 I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced on my 
 handlebars every morning. 😊

 Ahmed in Redwood City 

 On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  wrote:

> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old 

Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Alex K]

A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps and 
we're golden...
Alex in SF
[image: 0-1.jpg]

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 aelga...@castilleja.org 
wrote:

> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school when I 
> had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced on my 
> handlebars every morning. 😊
>
> Ahmed in Redwood City 
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H  wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these 
>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic 
>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute in 
>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma 
>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have been 
>> awesome!  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know this probably has been discussed before.
>>>
>>> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of 
>>> transporting groceries or other items?
>>>
>>> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle a 
>>> couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I use 
>>> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar 
>>> balancing the load.
>>>
>>> I think this can be a risky method.
>>>
>>> I need to find some decent grocery panniers.
>>>
>>> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales.
>>>
>>> Dang...36.2 pounds. Glad it was only 2 miles return trip .
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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