[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
12 - 14 - 16 - 18 - 21 - 24 - 28 - 32 - 36 On Jan 14, 8:50 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Can anyone name the cogs on this cassette? IE, what teeth on the cogs > between the 12 and the 36? I may want one for the Fargo. > > Thanks. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. I am old and now even fatter so it might help on the climbs until I can get back into riding shape this season. On Jan 14, 11:02 pm, James Warren wrote: > I just started using this cassette with a Sugino 24-36-46 crank. It's > heavenly. > > Having a 32 as the second easiest gear in back is great. I love my low-low on > my loaded commuter with hills. It's made me want to ride more. I've been more > car-free and bike-using for everything in the past two weeks than I've been > in years. This cassette has played a small part in that. > > -Jim W. > > On Jan 14, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 09:50 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> Can anyone name the cogs on this cassette? IE, what teeth on the cogs > >> between the 12 and the 36? I may want one for the Fargo. > > > Shimano 12-36 9-spd, according to Harris Cycles site: > > 12 14 16 18 21 24 28 32 36 > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
If rested and on short rides I'd probably never use it but I carry a full "touring load" all the time and in spite of my efforts to reduce by riding, I only drop 20 pounds at the peak of the riding season. Grants recent writing clued me into the compensation eating that I know I do so I am trying some things different this year. Using lower overall gearing has preserved my knees. I wonder if a Deore rear derailleur will shift to the 36 tooth cog? On Jan 15, 5:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 > > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I agree with Steve - you can only ride so slow. Balance and steering quirkiness was my experience with riding a 24x34 (18.3") up steep stuff at around 4.25 MPH. Charlie: if you are concerned with your knees, as we all should after the age of ~55, the ole "heel/toe" gear might be safer and besides it let's you stretch out those muscles in the back of your legs. Say - Patrick - I'm surprised to see you going for the lower end gearing, particularly after your career of fixed riding. How's that Fargo project going? What chainrings are you planning on using? I never ride with much of a load so I doubt my present gearing is relevant but 50-40-24 with a 12-23 in the rear works well for me around, about and up most places in Sonoma County. YMMV - Phil B On Jan 15, 11:47 am, charlie wrote: > If rested and on short rides I'd probably never use it but I carry a > full "touring load" all the time and in spite of my efforts to reduce > by riding, I only drop 20 pounds at the peak of the riding season. > Grants recent writing clued me into the compensation eating that I > know I do so I am trying some things different this year. Using lower > overall gearing has preserved my knees. I wonder if a Deore rear > derailleur will shift to the 36 tooth cog? > > On Jan 15, 5:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > > > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 > > > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I believe I am as I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier...I think if I only had a 40-50 pound load I would be fine with my present gearing. When I say "touring load" I mean around my middle...due to age, sedentary life, too many carbs, bad sleep habits, too much stress. Not giving up though. On Jan 15, 1:54 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 16:48 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: > > Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? > > 12% is fine with a 24x30, 700x32 wheel for me. Not with a touring load, > of course. I no longer tour with 40-50 lb in panniers, but I did back > in the 1990s with an 18" low on terrain that steep. However, that was > the only time I used the 18". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I regularly see short pitches that hit 12%, and a couple of roads our club rides during the summer hit 15 - 17%. On those rides I'm generally riding my lightweight go-fast with a 34/29 low gear and no more load than a couple of tubes and a Clif bar. Anything much past 10% is a bit of a slog, but manageable because the steepest grades are short. I went to the 34 after trying to ride a road with 15% pitches in a 39/29. The 34 is just low enough to let me keep moving. Climbing Jamison Creek Road (in the hills above Santa Cruz, CA - 1500 feet in 3 miles, and increasingly steeper towards the top) on my heavier steel rando-ish bike with 650b Fatty Rumpkins and a large front bag, the 24/32 low wasn't enough to keep me moving on the steepest stretches. On a fully loaded tourer, forget it! Bill On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Ken Freeman wrote: > Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Phil Bickford wrote: > > I agree with Steve - you can only ride so slow. Balance and steering > > quirkiness was my experience with riding a 24x34 (18.3") up steep > > stuff at around 4.25 MPH. Charlie: if you are concerned with your > > knees, as we all should after the age of ~55, the ole "heel/toe" gear > > might be safer and besides it let's you stretch out those muscles in > > the back of your legs. > > > Say - Patrick - I'm surprised to see you going for the lower end > > gearing, particularly after your career of fixed riding. How's that > > Fargo project going? What chainrings are you planning on using? > > > I never ride with much of a load so I doubt my present gearing is > > relevant but 50-40-24 with a 12-23 in the rear works well for me > > around, about and up most places in Sonoma County. > > > YMMV - > > Phil B > > > On Jan 15, 11:47 am, charlie wrote: > > > If rested and on short rides I'd probably never use it but I carry a > > > full "touring load" all the time and in spite of my efforts to reduce > > > by riding, I only drop 20 pounds at the peak of the riding season. > > > Grants recent writing clued me into the compensation eating that I > > > know I do so I am trying some things different this year. Using lower > > > overall gearing has preserved my knees. I wonder if a Deore rear > > > derailleur will shift to the 36 tooth cog? > > > > On Jan 15, 5:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > > > > > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a > > 44x32x22 > > > > > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > > > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > > > > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Ken Freeman > Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
Kelly - Just in case I sounded dismissive - there's nothing 'wrong' with low gearing, your knees will thank you for it. And if you can ride at 1-2 MPH up those grades it sounds like you've got the right stuff happening. A lot of the weaving or unsteadiness has to do with your balance fore and aft, as well as technique - but that's a subject for another thread. Enjoy the ride. Phil B `On my tour bikes I have 24x36 and had 30x34 on the last.. but 24x36 at 1 or `2 mph is fine for me.. drink coffee and ease on up. No in Missouri we get a `lot of 12% and on some hills we average 15 to 18%.. I have parks and places `with ¼ mile climbs over 20% average.So I’ll take the gears.. and even if `you pass me while walking it’s easier to pedal than push. `Just how I look at it.. and I don’t weave all over the place either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
This gets me thinking. I need to set up a bike with a 20 tooth granny gear, and the 12-36 in the rear! 15". Now we're talking. On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: >> I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 >> and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
...and you can climb a fully-loaded bike up a 72 deg incline... On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Warren wrote: > > This gets me thinking. I need to set up a bike with a 20 tooth granny gear, > and the 12-36 in the rear! 15". Now we're talking. > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > >> On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: >>> I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 >>> and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. >> >> Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low >> (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Phil Bickford wrote: > I agree with Steve - you can only ride so slow. Balance and steering > quirkiness was my experience with riding a 24x34 (18.3") up steep > stuff at around 4.25 MPH. Charlie: if you are concerned with your > knees, as we all should after the age of ~55, the ole "heel/toe" gear > might be safer and besides it let's you stretch out those muscles in > the back of your legs. > > Say - Patrick - I'm surprised to see you going for the lower end > gearing, particularly after your career of fixed riding. How's that > Fargo project going? What chainrings are you planning on using? > > I never ride with much of a load so I doubt my present gearing is > relevant but 50-40-24 with a 12-23 in the rear works well for me > around, about and up most places in Sonoma County. > > YMMV - > Phil B > > On Jan 15, 11:47 am, charlie wrote: > > If rested and on short rides I'd probably never use it but I carry a > > full "touring load" all the time and in spite of my efforts to reduce > > by riding, I only drop 20 pounds at the peak of the riding season. > > Grants recent writing clued me into the compensation eating that I > > know I do so I am trying some things different this year. Using lower > > overall gearing has preserved my knees. I wonder if a Deore rear > > derailleur will shift to the 36 tooth cog? > > > > On Jan 15, 5:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > > > > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a > 44x32x22 > > > > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > > > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > > > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 16:48 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: > Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? 12% is fine with a 24x30, 700x32 wheel for me. Not with a touring load, of course. I no longer tour with 40-50 lb in panniers, but I did back in the 1990s with an 18" low on terrain that steep. However, that was the only time I used the 18". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I'm expectin to be dragging my 180 # butt and 35# of bike plus day gear - no overnight, it's a SAGged ride. Noodling with numbers I think an 18 to 20 gear would let me spin at 4 to 5 mph, but that'll be at my peak power. It's said to be 1/2 mile, so that could take worst case 10 minutes. Doesn't sound like much, but I don't think I've ever done such a thing. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM, charlie wrote: > I believe I am as I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier...I think > if I only had a 40-50 pound load I would be fine with my present > gearing. When I say "touring load" I mean around my middle...due > to age, sedentary life, too many carbs, bad sleep habits, too much > stress. Not giving up though. > > On Jan 15, 1:54 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 16:48 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: > > > Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? > > > > 12% is fine with a 24x30, 700x32 wheel for me. Not with a touring load, > > of course. I no longer tour with 40-50 lb in panniers, but I did back > > in the 1990s with an 18" low on terrain that steep. However, that was > > the only time I used the 18". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 06:14 -0800, James Warren wrote: > This gets me thinking. I need to set up a bike with a 20 tooth granny gear, > and the 12-36 in the rear! 15". Now we're talking. Unless you have some super heavy loads and some super steep grades, you might find that 15" gear very difficult to use. Without something to pedal against, you might feel as though you had no chain on at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Phil Bickford wrote: > > Say - Patrick - I'm surprised to see you going for the lower end > gearing, particularly after your career of fixed riding. How's that > Fargo project going? What chainrings are you planning on using? > The Fargo has been built and in service for several months; very nice. It is set up very different from my other bikes, with bars 7 cm above saddle instead of 4 or 5 below, but the same butt-back position and a longer stem for a surprisingly similar "feel" in terms of aero and power -- makes me think that changing other bikes may be in order some day. Anyway, the 36 would be largely for a lower low in the middle (36) ring. As it is, I have the drivetrain set up for most riding in the outer, 46 (the cassette is a 15-17-20-24-28-34 rump of a 13-34 7 sp) and I generally leave it in the 46X20 for a 67" gear for most riding, dropping to the 36 at need for the flat but sandy dirt I ride in. I thought that a 9 speed might give me a nice 60" dirt cruising gear between the 46X20 or 67 pavement gear and the 46X24 56" gear which is a bit low for my taste. Speaking of climbing: I can't boast of distance, but I've been riding a little, tiny 11-12 mile loop while running mail and grocery errands for my mother; this involves about 4 miles of climbing including about 2 miles of standing (not continuous; about 2 miles max continuous with about 3/4 to 1 mile max standing, depending on wind and load). I just did this on my 67" Motobecane and sometimes for fun take out the heavier, fatter tire'd Fargo and ride it in the same (46X20X29") gear. My almost-56 year old knees are fine, tho' I've been careful of late not to try to mash too much while seated. I was tickled to find that the Fargo, tho' slower uphill, is still faster overall because I can hit almost 30 on some of the downhills, while the Motobecane is limited to about 23 1/2 mph if I keep things comfortable, and generally lower than that with back pressure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
I briefly ran a sub 18" gear way back in the days of 28 tooth big cogs, using a Mountain Tamer Quad; I think the low was 18 or even 16 X 28. It was pretty useless off road, mostly because by the time you had managed to curse the chain onto the sub-granny, you had already fallen over. But even the 24X34 -- 20" -- on the 29" wheel Fargo feels hugely non-resistant. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 06:14 -0800, James Warren wrote: >> This gets me thinking. I need to set up a bike with a 20 tooth granny gear, >> and the 12-36 in the rear! 15". Now we're talking. > > Unless you have some super heavy loads and some super steep grades, you > might find that 15" gear very difficult to use. Without something to > pedal against, you might feel as though you had no chain on at all. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On my tour bikes I have 24x36 and had 30x34 on the last.. but 24x36 at 1 or 2 mph is fine for me.. drink coffee and ease on up. No in Missouri we get a lot of 12% and on some hills we average 15 to 18%.. I have parks and places with ¼ mile climbs over 20% average.So I’ll take the gears.. and even if you pass me while walking it’s easier to pedal than push. Just how I look at it.. and I don’t weave all over the place either. Kelly From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Freeman Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:49 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp? Are any of you regularly dealing with 12% grades? How is it? On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Phil Bickford wrote: I agree with Steve - you can only ride so slow. Balance and steering quirkiness was my experience with riding a 24x34 (18.3") up steep stuff at around 4.25 MPH. Charlie: if you are concerned with your knees, as we all should after the age of ~55, the ole "heel/toe" gear might be safer and besides it let's you stretch out those muscles in the back of your legs. Say - Patrick - I'm surprised to see you going for the lower end gearing, particularly after your career of fixed riding. How's that Fargo project going? What chainrings are you planning on using? I never ride with much of a load so I doubt my present gearing is relevant but 50-40-24 with a 12-23 in the rear works well for me around, about and up most places in Sonoma County. YMMV - Phil B On Jan 15, 11:47 am, charlie wrote: > If rested and on short rides I'd probably never use it but I carry a > full "touring load" all the time and in spite of my efforts to reduce > by riding, I only drop 20 pounds at the peak of the riding season. > Grants recent writing clued me into the compensation eating that I > know I do so I am trying some things different this year. Using lower > overall gearing has preserved my knees. I wonder if a Deore rear > derailleur will shift to the 36 tooth cog? > > On Jan 15, 5:09 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 02:30 -0800, charlie wrote: > > > I've been flirting with the idea also. Right now I am using a 44x32x22 > > > and 7 speed 12-32 but wondered if a really low, low might be handy. > > > Last time I looked, a 22 front 32 rear already gave a really low low > > (18.6"). Going to a 36T would bring that down to 16". > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 17:21 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I briefly ran a sub 18" gear way back in the days of 28 tooth big > cogs, using a Mountain Tamer Quad; I think the low was 18 or even 16 X > 28. It was pretty useless off road, mostly because by the time you had > managed to curse the chain onto the sub-granny, you had already fallen > over. But even the 24X34 -- 20" -- on the 29" wheel Fargo feels hugely > non-resistant. It will, unless you have a major grade to work against. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cog progression on Riv-sold 12-36 9-sp?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 17:21 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> I briefly ran a sub 18" gear way back in the days of 28 tooth big >> cogs, using a Mountain Tamer Quad; I think the low was 18 or even 16 X >> 28. It was pretty useless off road, mostly because by the time you had >> managed to curse the chain onto the sub-granny, you had already fallen >> over. But even the 24X34 -- 20" -- on the 29" wheel Fargo feels hugely >> non-resistant. > > It will, unless you have a major grade to work against. > I will probably be happy to have such (20" or lower) a gear for touring, if I ever get around to doing some touring (hope to in '11). But on dirt (Fargo is also my dirt bike) I tend to lose balance before I run out of torque with such low gears -- IOW, my handling abilities fall short of my power -- since I bail to this sort of gear only on a sandy hill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.